Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question

[Mike Tirpak]

I thought that at first too, but I looked at the header and SpamAssassin 
was not marking it as spam.  The email has "*SPAM*" in the 
subject line though.  I have a procmail script that filters out marked 
spam by status in header.  These messages are not getting caught by 
SpamAssassin that is why I asked about how to match "*SPAM*" 
with SpamAssassin.


On second thought, I might just use procmail to filter out emails with 
"*SPAM*" in the subject.  Might be simpler than getting 
SpamAssassin to match it.


Thanks
Mike

On 8/15/2014 12:12 PM, Dan McAllister wrote:

Mike:

The ***SPAM*** you are seeing is actually being INSERTED by 
SpamAssassin (or, potentially SpamDyke).  It is not there upon receipt 
(e.g.: the spammer is not self-identifying the message as SPAM -- 
that's your SPAM protection working for you!)


Most clients want SPAM to be /identified/, but not necessarily 
_BLOCKED _(because of the potential for false positives). Thus, in my 
experience, most will create a "rule" in their mail client (Outlook, 
Thunderbird, etc) that moves messages with the string "***SPAM***" in 
the subject to a "junk" or "spam" folder for later perusal.


I hope this is helpful...

Dan McAllister
IT4SOHO


On 8/15/2014 11:46 AM, Mike Tirpak wrote:
For about two weeks now, I have been getting nailed with tons of 
spam.  I even had to drop my spamassassin score a point because so 
much was getting through just under the threshold.  I noticed that 
some of the spam was getting through with "*SPAM*" in the 
subject line.  I have tried to filter it out with spamassassin's 
subject filter, but asterisks are special characters and seem to be 
hard to match.


Does anyone know how to match an asterisk with spamassassin or is 
there a better way?


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question

[Dan McAllister]

Mike:

The ***SPAM*** you are seeing is actually being INSERTED by SpamAssassin 
(or, potentially SpamDyke).  It is not there upon receipt (e.g.: the 
spammer is not self-identifying the message as SPAM -- that's your SPAM 
protection working for you!)


Most clients want SPAM to be /identified/, but not necessarily _BLOCKED 
_(because of the potential for false positives). Thus, in my experience, 
most will create a "rule" in their mail client (Outlook, Thunderbird, 
etc) that moves messages with the string "***SPAM***" in the subject to 
a "junk" or "spam" folder for later perusal.


I hope this is helpful...

Dan McAllister
IT4SOHO


On 8/15/2014 11:46 AM, Mike Tirpak wrote:
For about two weeks now, I have been getting nailed with tons of 
spam.  I even had to drop my spamassassin score a point because so 
much was getting through just under the threshold.  I noticed that 
some of the spam was getting through with "*SPAM*" in the 
subject line.  I have tried to filter it out with spamassassin's 
subject filter, but asterisks are special characters and seem to be 
hard to match.


Does anyone know how to match an asterisk with spamassassin or is 
there a better way?


- Mike

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[qmailtoaster] Spam Question

[Mike Tirpak]

For about two weeks now, I have been getting nailed with tons of spam.  
I even had to drop my spamassassin score a point because so much was 
getting through just under the threshold.  I noticed that some of the 
spam was getting through with "*SPAM*" in the subject line.  I 
have tried to filter it out with spamassassin's subject filter, but 
asterisks are special characters and seem to be hard to match.


Does anyone know how to match an asterisk with spamassassin or is there 
a better way?


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RE: [qmailtoaster] spam question

[Noel Rivera (Border Less)]

No my question is How?
Sorry for my bad English

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RE: [qmailtoaster] spam question

[Noel Rivera (Border Less)]

Ok eric thanks.

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Noel Rivera (Border Less) wrote:
> Hello List recently I used the IMAP configuration in my qmailtoaster
> Installation what can I do when the spamdyke detect the messages with Spam
> this messages automatically move to the spam folder in my qmailtoaster
> installation, thanks for your help
> 

Noel,

Please start a new message when posting a new message to the list. 
Hitting reply and changing the subject causes your message to be listed 
under an unrelated thread when messages are viewed by thread.

In reply to your question, there is a spambox option that can be enabled 
at compile time. You can use qtp-newmodel to rebuild your package with 
this option, as specified at 
http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/wiki/qtp-newmodel#Tailoring
There is much more about it in the list archives, and probably the wiki 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam question

[Stephen T Woodfin]

Sorry my Notes client automatically sent a read receipt because the email 
from Noel Rivera appears to have been set to request a read receipt.

Thanks,

Stephen T. Woodfin
Assistant Director of IT
Car-Freshner Corporation



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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam question

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Noel Rivera (Border Less) wrote:

Hello List recently I used the IMAP configuration in my qmailtoaster
Installation what can I do when the spamdyke detect the messages with Spam
this messages automatically move to the spam folder in my qmailtoaster
installation, thanks for your help



Noel,

Please start a new message when posting a new message to the list. 
Hitting reply and changing the subject causes your message to be listed 
under an unrelated thread when messages are viewed by thread.


In reply to your question, there is a spambox option that can be enabled 
at compile time. You can use qtp-newmodel to rebuild your package with 
this option, as specified at 
http://qtp.qmailtoaster.com/trac/wiki/qtp-newmodel#Tailoring
There is much more about it in the list archives, and probably the wiki 
as well.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] spam question

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Noel Rivera (Border Less) wrote:

Hello List recently I used the IMAP configuration in my qmailtoaster
Installation what can I do when the spamdyke detect the messages with Spam
this messages automatically move to the spam folder in my qmailtoaster
installation, thanks for your help

  


That is not a function of Spamdyke.
For what you're looking for, you need to rebuild qmailadmin with the 
Spambox option:

http://wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/FAQs#I_upgraded_my_QmailToaster_to_the_latest_and_I_no_longer_have_the_.22Spam_Detection.22_box_in_Qmailadmin.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question?

[Natalio Gatti]

Ron:
yes, the new toaster is able to delete messages tagged above a specified mark.
You have two threshold: one for direct deletion and one for subject
modification.

Natalio.

On 7/19/07, Ron Horist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello everyone,

It has been a while since I have kept up with the list.  I believe it has
been about a year since I have upgraded my Toaster.

The Spam question I have is, I believe with the version of the toaster I
have spamassassin that it would not delete emails that it found as spam
but would just send them to your inbox with a tag.

Is the new version able to now delete them?  I have a few users that get
alot of spam and I know I could set it up in SquirrelMail or other email
clients to delete them, but wanted it to where the system would delete
them and the user doesn't even see them.

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Hello everyone,

It has been a while since I have kept up with the list.  I believe it has
been about a year since I have upgraded my Toaster.

The Spam question I have is, I believe with the version of the toaster I
have spamassassin that it would not delete emails that it found as spam
but would just send them to your inbox with a tag.

Is the new version able to now delete them?  I have a few users that get
alot of spam and I know I could set it up in SquirrelMail or other email
clients to delete them, but wanted it to where the system would delete
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Thanks..


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question...

[Peter Peltonen]

On 3/20/07, Eric Shubes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

IIRC that had to do with the spambox filter not kicking in.


Yes, that was my case and it was due to the old format of forwarding
rules in the
db. After fixing that everrything has been working fine.



It appears to me that the toaster is scanning forwarded messages though.
There are X-Spam-* headers from my toaster in mail that that was received
and forwarded locally intra-domain. They appear to be scanned when coming
into the forwarded account, but I'm not certain:


I have lots of forwards in use and I have not seen any issues about
those being not
scanned by spamassassin either.

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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question...

[Eric \"Shubes\"]

Jake Vickers wrote:
> Kyle Quillen wrote:
>> Hey all,
>>  
>> Not sure that this is where I need to ask this but here goes.  I have
>> been noticing that when someone sends an email to a forwarder address
>> like [EMAIL PROTECTED]  it seems as though the
>> forwarder ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) does not get
>> checked or run through spamassassin.  Since the email then is
>> forwarded onto a local email address the server does not scan it
>> either.  Is this the correct behavior of the way it should scan?  I
>> would assume you would not want a forwarder being scanned that way you
>> know that there is no chance of emails being blocked or rejected. 
>>
> We had a thread running on this a month or so ago, and I believe we
> found that because of the way forwards/aliases work they are not scanned.
> I can dig through my emails later today and see what exactly transpired
> (sorry, forgot already)

IIRC that had to do with the spambox filter not kicking in.

It appears to me that the toaster is scanning forwarded messages though.
There are X-Spam-* headers from my toaster in mail that that was received
and forwarded locally intra-domain. They appear to be scanned when coming
into the forwarded account, but I'm not certain:

Delivered-To: @shubes.net
Received: (qmail 11559 invoked by uid 89); 20 Mar 2007 11:57:04 -
Delivered-To: @shubes.net
Received: (qmail 11553 invoked by uid 89); 20 Mar 2007 11:57:04 -
DomainKey-Status: no signature
Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 11538, pid: 11540, t: 14.2558s
 scanners: clamav: 0.88.7/m:42/d:2679 spam: 3.1.7
X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.7 (2006-10-05) on doris.shubes.net
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,ADVANCE_FEE_2,
ADVANCE_FEE_3,AWL,FIN_FREE,HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST,
HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no
version=3.1.7
Received: from unknown (HELO deluxe-smtp.infusionsoft.com) (67.131.25.40)
  by doris with SMTP; 20 Mar 2007 11:56:50 -

# rpm -qa | grep toaster
ezmlm-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2
courier-authlib-toaster-0.59-1.3.4
autorespond-toaster-2.0.4-1.3.2
isoqlog-toaster-2.1-1.3.2
qmailmrtg-toaster-4.2-1.3.2
spamassassin-toaster-3.1.7-1.3.6
vpopmail-toaster-5.4.13-1.3.3
daemontools-toaster-0.76-1.3.2
qmail-toaster-1.03-1.3.10
clamav-toaster-0.88.7-1.3.7
ripmime-toaster-1.4.0.6-1.3.2
courier-imap-toaster-4.1.2-1.3.6
ezmlm-cgi-toaster-0.53.324-1.3.2
libdomainkeys-toaster-0.68-1.3.2
qmailadmin-toaster-1.2.9-1.3.3
qmail-pop3d-toaster-1.03-1.3.10
simscan-toaster-1.3.1-1.3.3
squirrelmail-toaster-1.4.9a-1.3.5
qmailtoaster-plus-0.2.10-1.3.12
ucspi-tcp-toaster-0.88-1.3.2
maildrop-toaster-2.0.3-1.3.4
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Spam Question...

[Jake Vickers]

Kyle Quillen wrote:

Hey all,
 
Not sure that this is where I need to ask this but here goes.  I have 
been noticing that when someone sends an email to a forwarder address 
like [EMAIL PROTECTED]  it seems as though the 
forwarder ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ) does not get 
checked or run through spamassassin.  Since the email then is 
forwarded onto a local email address the server does not scan it 
either.  Is this the correct behavior of the way it should scan?  I 
would assume you would not want a forwarder being scanned that way you 
know that there is no chance of emails being blocked or rejected. 

We had a thread running on this a month or so ago, and I believe we 
found that because of the way forwards/aliases work they are not scanned.
I can dig through my emails later today and see what exactly transpired 
(sorry, forgot already)


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[qmailtoaster] Spam Question...

[Kyle Quillen]

Hey all,
 
Not sure that this is where I need to ask this but here goes.  I have been
noticing that when someone sends an email to a forwarder address like
[EMAIL PROTECTED] it seems as though the forwarder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) does
not get checked or run through spamassassin.  Since the email then is
forwarded onto a local email address the server does not scan it either.  Is
this the correct behavior of the way it should scan?  I would assume you
would not want a forwarder being scanned that way you know that there is no
chance of emails being blocked or rejected.  
 
Just a small observation that I wanted to try to get clarified.
 
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