Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-07 Thread Jake Vickers

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
Yeah. It was huge. Sorry about that. But I really wasn't sure what to 
keep and what to clip. :(


My /var/log/maildrop/maildrop.log was ... gigantinormous. I don't feel 
like doing byte math, but I'm pretty sure it was at least close to 
2gb. So, I moved that to .log.old-date and created a new file of the 
same original name, same group, user and permissions, in the original 
location. On the off chance that was at all contributing.


Now. It's possible I've done something stupid. That's always possible. 
But there was no localconcurrency file in /var/qmail/control in my 
installation. I created one, just in case, and put 30 in it.


I did have a concurrencyremote file. So I also created a 
concurrencylocal, in case that was a misnomer.


I've restarted just the /send service, waiting to see if it will 
process now.


I've also started DLing a copy of the ISO for QMT-ISO. If this doesn't 
work, I'm going to go ahead and wipe and rebuild. I really do need to 
get this mailserver back up and running.


I'll let you all know what happens. And thanks again, Jake, for all of 
your help, regardless of how this turns out. I appreciate it.




'ls -lh' will show you how big the files are in human readable numbers.
And no, you didn't do anything stupid there. The file is not there by 
default, and uses a value of 10 until you create the file and put a 
different value in it.

And it's no problem. We all try and help out where we can around here.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-07 Thread Jake Vickers

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
Well, I believe we have some good news. Thank you again for your help, 
Jake.


With the latest changes (detailed below), the restart of /send wasn't 
throwing the errors it was before. So I removed the recordio from the 
run file for send, ran Jake's qfixq script again (it found several 
errors in the queue, quite possibly caused while all those other 
errors were being thrown), and restarted qmailtoaster - the whole suite.


The queue is down to half its size and dropping. It appears to have 
been - I'm guessing, but it seems accurate - the oversized 
maildrop.log. I'll need to edit the logrotate.conf files so that it 
rotates.


If I might make a suggestion? Since we use maildrop in toaster, 
perhaps we should make sure one of our appropriate SRPMs sets up 
rotation for maildrop.log ?


Anyway. Thank you very, very much, Jake, for all of your help. And 
everyone else. This is a huge weight of stress off my shoulders.


Guess I should have waited for the second message before replying.
Erik found that maildrop.log issue a while back with someone else who 
was having similar problems. I think in the next release it's been 
earmarked to be added into logrotate. I'll be adding the option in the 
next QTP myself (I know, it's overdue, but I'll get some time to work on 
it next week while out of town).

Glad to see it's working for you.  Good luck!


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Jake Vickers

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
Jake, how do I individually stop qmailtoaster services? Will qmailctl 
accept a second argument with the name of a service? Or do I need to 
'kill' the processes? Is there a way to start up only selected services?




You can stop individual processes with the svc -d command:

svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/spamd /var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log


That stops the spamd and spamd-log daemons as an example. Look in 
/var/qmail/supervise for the names of the other daemons.
Once you stop a service, you can check to make sure it's stopped by 
'qmailctl stat' or:



svstat /var/qmail/supervise/spamd






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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Roxanne Sandesara

Thank you.

I've run the script to repair the queue, and started up just send.  
I'm going to leave it to run for an hour or so, to see if it can  
manage to make the deliveries it needs to make. If not, I'll shut  
down send, check to see if the queue is corrupted again. If it is,  
I'll have to drop back and start with bringing the server down  
completely to scan the disks for corruption. I'm nowhere near to  
being out of space on the system:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
  86761840  41277944  41076600  51% /
/dev/sda1   101086 60813 35054  64% /boot
none   1037384 0   1037384   0% /dev/shm

I've got a backup of everything each week for the last two months,  
and I'll run another before I shut it down for disk scanning, just in  
case it can prove useful. Sadly, this may be the event that forces me  
to upgrade to CentOS 5, when rebuilding if that becomes necessary.


Thank you for the help, to Jake and to everyone else who tried. I'll  
keep everyone informed.



On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
Jake, how do I individually stop qmailtoaster services? Will  
qmailctl accept a second argument with the name of a service? Or  
do I need to 'kill' the processes? Is there a way to start up only  
selected services?




You can stop individual processes with the svc -d command:

svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/spamd /var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log


That stops the spamd and spamd-log daemons as an example. Look in / 
var/qmail/supervise for the names of the other daemons.
Once you stop a service, you can check to make sure it's stopped by  
'qmailctl stat' or:



svstat /var/qmail/supervise/spamd







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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
OK. Send is still not delivering, clearing up the queue at all.  
However, the queue is not re-corrupting itself. I'm not really sure / 
what/ to try next. Any suggestions? Should I just leave send running  
by itself for a while longer? (I tried forcing the issue with  
qmHandle -a to no avail).


On Oct 6, 2007, at 10:02 AM, Roxanne Sandesara wrote:


Thank you.

I've run the script to repair the queue, and started up just send.  
I'm going to leave it to run for an hour or so, to see if it can  
manage to make the deliveries it needs to make. If not, I'll shut  
down send, check to see if the queue is corrupted again. If it is,  
I'll have to drop back and start with bringing the server down  
completely to scan the disks for corruption. I'm nowhere near to  
being out of space on the system:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# df
Filesystem   1K-blocks  Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/mapper/VolGroup00-LogVol00
  86761840  41277944  41076600  51% /
/dev/sda1   101086 60813 35054  64% /boot
none   1037384 0   1037384   0% /dev/shm

I've got a backup of everything each week for the last two months,  
and I'll run another before I shut it down for disk scanning, just  
in case it can prove useful. Sadly, this may be the event that  
forces me to upgrade to CentOS 5, when rebuilding if that becomes  
necessary.


Thank you for the help, to Jake and to everyone else who tried.  
I'll keep everyone informed.



On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:28 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
Jake, how do I individually stop qmailtoaster services? Will  
qmailctl accept a second argument with the name of a service? Or  
do I need to 'kill' the processes? Is there a way to start up  
only selected services?




You can stop individual processes with the svc -d command:

svc -d /var/qmail/supervise/spamd /var/qmail/supervise/spamd/log


That stops the spamd and spamd-log daemons as an example. Look in / 
var/qmail/supervise for the names of the other daemons.
Once you stop a service, you can check to make sure it's stopped  
by 'qmailctl stat' or:



svstat /var/qmail/supervise/spamd









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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Jake Vickers

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. Send is still not delivering, clearing up the queue at all. 
However, the queue is not re-corrupting itself. I'm not really sure 
/what/ to try next. Any suggestions? Should I just leave send running 
by itself for a while longer? (I tried forcing the issue with qmHandle 
-a to no avail).


Try the queue-repair tool as well - maybe a permission went awry.
http://pyropus.ca/software/queue-repair/



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RE: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Kevin Katz
50% free on the disk is good - But, how about the partition holding the
queue? Do any of the partitions themselves show full?

Thank You
 Kevin Katz
   

-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 6:00 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

I've got nearly 50% free space on the disk.

On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:11 PM, Todd W wrote:


 From: Roxanne Sandesara [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote = 60

 Any idea what 'unable to open todo' means? Or what I should do  
 about it?

 /var/log/qmail/send current:
 Script started on Fri 05 Oct 2007 04:52:25 PM EDT
 ]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# qmlog send
 10-05 16:52:15 warning: unable to open todo/3490361

 The only thing google found was http://securepoint.com/lists/html/ 
 Qmail/2007-04/msg00091.html

 A single reply to the op asked if the disk was full. There is no  
 reply.

 I imagine you saw it, too... but just out of curiosity is your disk  
 full?

 $ sudo df -h

 Regards,

 Todd W.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
OK. I had queue-repair create a whole new queue, in case it was  
something niggling. However, in test mode it hadn't found anything  
wrong.


Having built a new queue, I have restarted qmail-send, and only send,  
to see if it will process through the queue. I assume I should let it  
sit for an hour or so, and then pull the latest messages out of qmlog  
send if it hasn't cleared the queue? Is there anywhere else I should  
be looking to find additional messages or information that would help  
troubleshoot this?



On Oct 6, 2007, at 11:10 AM, Jake Vickers wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. Send is still not delivering, clearing up the queue at all.  
However, the queue is not re-corrupting itself. I'm not really  
sure /what/ to try next. Any suggestions? Should I just leave send  
running by itself for a while longer? (I tried forcing the issue  
with qmHandle -a to no avail).


Try the queue-repair tool as well - maybe a permission went awry.
http://pyropus.ca/software/queue-repair/




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Jake Vickers

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. I had queue-repair create a whole new queue, in case it was 
something niggling. However, in test mode it hadn't found anything wrong.


Having built a new queue, I have restarted qmail-send, and only send, 
to see if it will process through the queue. I assume I should let it 
sit for an hour or so, and then pull the latest messages out of qmlog 
send if it hasn't cleared the queue? Is there anywhere else I should 
be looking to find additional messages or information that would help 
troubleshoot this?


You may also try running recordio on it to see if it gives any more 
information while it's bombing out.
The options I'd given you already had fixed my problem in the past, so 
this is a new one for me as well.




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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
OK. I tried 'recordio svc -u /var/qmail/supervise/send', but that  
clearly doesn't work, as that is just a service script. All I get is  
an EOF and a hanging process. What program(s) should I call with  
recordio to try to get some meaningful information?


Obviously, I'd prefer to fix this, as it would also add to our  
knowledge base regarding what is happening and perhaps then what  
caused the situation. But are we reaching the point that I should  
just consider running that backup, wiping the box and rebuilding?  
Admittedly, it would take me the rest of today to do that. But I do  
need to figure this out and fix it.


On Oct 6, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. I had queue-repair create a whole new queue, in case it was  
something niggling. However, in test mode it hadn't found anything  
wrong.


Having built a new queue, I have restarted qmail-send, and only  
send, to see if it will process through the queue. I assume I  
should let it sit for an hour or so, and then pull the latest  
messages out of qmlog send if it hasn't cleared the queue? Is  
there anywhere else I should be looking to find additional  
messages or information that would help troubleshoot this?


You may also try running recordio on it to see if it gives any more  
information while it's bombing out.
The options I'd given you already had fixed my problem in the past,  
so this is a new one for me as well.





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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Jake Vickers

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. I tried 'recordio svc -u /var/qmail/supervise/send', but that 
clearly doesn't work, as that is just a service script. All I get is 
an EOF and a hanging process. What program(s) should I call with 
recordio to try to get some meaningful information?


Obviously, I'd prefer to fix this, as it would also add to our 
knowledge base regarding what is happening and perhaps then what 
caused the situation. But are we reaching the point that I should just 
consider running that backup, wiping the box and rebuilding? 
Admittedly, it would take me the rest of today to do that. But I do 
need to figure this out and fix it.


You'll need to put the recordio command in the supervise file (called 
run) for qmail-send. Then it should just add extra output to the logs 
(massive amounts, depending on the load).
As far as reaching the point of wiping and starting over, that's a call 
you have to make. I don't know what all is run off your machine so I 
can't make a guess as to how critical it is. My machines would take me 
hours each to backup since I usually run something else on the machine 
as well - I'd move the backup to another server and change the MX record 
while I got the main one working in my situations. That may not work for 
you.
I'd also like to point out I do have the QMT-ISO (qmtiso.com) that will 
give you a Cent 4.5 and Toaster install in one fell swoop (okay, 3 
reboots total). I'm not a fan of Cent5 myself - it's rather bloated for 
my tastes.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Jake Vickers

Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. I put recordio at the start of the command line within the run 
file within /var/qmail/supervise/send and started up just the send 
service. What follows is the log /var/log/qmail/send/current:





[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /var/log/qmail/send/current

@40004707b77f074e75e4 status: local 5/10 remote 0/60

@40004707b77f07d19c1c delivery 7976: deferral: 
maildrop:_signal_0x19/user_does_not_exist,_but_will_deliver_to_/home/vpopmail/domains/primary_domain_name/blackhole// 




Man - that was a big email.
It looks like it's making deliveries at first, but gets overloaded after 
a while. I'd suggest increasing your local concurrency 
(/var/qmail/control/localconcurrency) to 30 or 50 (default is 10).  I'm 
also worried by this maildrop error - last time I saw that it was 
because someone's maildrop.log was 2G. Check that as well.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
Yeah. It was huge. Sorry about that. But I really wasn't sure what to  
keep and what to clip. :(


My /var/log/maildrop/maildrop.log was ... gigantinormous. I don't  
feel like doing byte math, but I'm pretty sure it was at least close  
to 2gb. So, I moved that to .log.old-date and created a new file of  
the same original name, same group, user and permissions, in the  
original location. On the off chance that was at all contributing.


Now. It's possible I've done something stupid. That's always  
possible. But there was no localconcurrency file in /var/qmail/ 
control in my installation. I created one, just in case, and put 30  
in it.


I did have a concurrencyremote file. So I also created a  
concurrencylocal, in case that was a misnomer.


I've restarted just the /send service, waiting to see if it will  
process now.


I've also started DLing a copy of the ISO for QMT-ISO. If this  
doesn't work, I'm going to go ahead and wipe and rebuild. I really do  
need to get this mailserver back up and running.


I'll let you all know what happens. And thanks again, Jake, for all  
of your help, regardless of how this turns out. I appreciate it.



On Oct 6, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. I put recordio at the start of the command line within the run  
file within /var/qmail/supervise/send and started up just the send  
service. What follows is the log /var/log/qmail/send/current:





[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /var/log/qmail/send/current

@40004707b77f074e75e4 status: local 5/10 remote 0/60

@40004707b77f07d19c1c delivery 7976: deferral:  
maildrop:_signal_0x19/user_does_not_exist,_but_will_deliver_to_/ 
home/vpopmail/domains/primary_domain_name/blackhole//



Man - that was a big email.
It looks like it's making deliveries at first, but gets overloaded  
after a while. I'd suggest increasing your local concurrency (/var/ 
qmail/control/localconcurrency) to 30 or 50 (default is 10).  I'm  
also worried by this maildrop error - last time I saw that it was  
because someone's maildrop.log was 2G. Check that as well.



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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-06 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
Well, I believe we have some good news. Thank you again for your  
help, Jake.


With the latest changes (detailed below), the restart of /send wasn't  
throwing the errors it was before. So I removed the recordio from the  
run file for send, ran Jake's qfixq script again (it found several  
errors in the queue, quite possibly caused while all those other  
errors were being thrown), and restarted qmailtoaster - the whole suite.


The queue is down to half its size and dropping. It appears to have  
been - I'm guessing, but it seems accurate - the oversized  
maildrop.log. I'll need to edit the logrotate.conf files so that it  
rotates.


If I might make a suggestion? Since we use maildrop in toaster,  
perhaps we should make sure one of our appropriate SRPMs sets up  
rotation for maildrop.log ?


Anyway. Thank you very, very much, Jake, for all of your help. And  
everyone else. This is a huge weight of stress off my shoulders.


Roxanne

On Oct 6, 2007, at 9:07 PM, Roxanne Sandesara wrote:

Yeah. It was huge. Sorry about that. But I really wasn't sure what  
to keep and what to clip. :(


My /var/log/maildrop/maildrop.log was ... gigantinormous. I don't  
feel like doing byte math, but I'm pretty sure it was at least  
close to 2gb. So, I moved that to .log.old-date and created a new  
file of the same original name, same group, user and permissions,  
in the original location. On the off chance that was at all  
contributing.


Now. It's possible I've done something stupid. That's always  
possible. But there was no localconcurrency file in /var/qmail/ 
control in my installation. I created one, just in case, and put 30  
in it.


I did have a concurrencyremote file. So I also created a  
concurrencylocal, in case that was a misnomer.


I've restarted just the /send service, waiting to see if it will  
process now.


I've also started DLing a copy of the ISO for QMT-ISO. If this  
doesn't work, I'm going to go ahead and wipe and rebuild. I really  
do need to get this mailserver back up and running.


I'll let you all know what happens. And thanks again, Jake, for all  
of your help, regardless of how this turns out. I appreciate it.



On Oct 6, 2007, at 8:37 PM, Jake Vickers wrote:


Roxanne Sandesara wrote:
OK. I put recordio at the start of the command line within the  
run file within /var/qmail/supervise/send and started up just the  
send service. What follows is the log /var/log/qmail/send/current:





[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# cat /var/log/qmail/send/current

@40004707b77f074e75e4 status: local 5/10 remote 0/60

@40004707b77f07d19c1c delivery 7976: deferral:  
maildrop:_signal_0x19/user_does_not_exist,_but_will_deliver_to_/ 
home/vpopmail/domains/primary_domain_name/blackhole//



Man - that was a big email.
It looks like it's making deliveries at first, but gets overloaded  
after a while. I'd suggest increasing your local concurrency (/var/ 
qmail/control/localconcurrency) to 30 or 50 (default is 10).  I'm  
also worried by this maildrop error - last time I saw that it was  
because someone's maildrop.log was 2G. Check that as well.





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RE: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle Quillen
Hello,

I just had this issue the other day.


Have you looked at the tool 

qmHandle

If you just type that in it will give you a list of options on how to deal
with the queue. 

What do you have your queue lifetime set to?

If you have Qmail toaster plus installed then you have qmHandle.

Thanks
Q


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From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:58 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

My qmail-toaster seems to have hundreds, if not thousands of messages  
undelivered and sitting in the queue. This has reached the point that  
local messages, from users who are on the server to other users on  
the server, are not being delivered, even hours after they have been  
sent. I have followed the instructions on http:// 
wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Queuelifetime as well as attempting a  
reboot of the server. Nothing seems to clear out the queue, force the  
system to deliver or give up, and move on.

Does anyone have any other suggestions. My users are frantic. They  
live by their email communication, and with that down, they are  
giving me no peace, and I currently have no useful solutions.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-05 Thread Roxanne Sandesara

I changed my queue lifetime to one hour (3600)

qmHandle was useful for seeing what is in the queue. But I still  
can't get it to /process/ the queue.


On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:


Hello,

I just had this issue the other day.


Have you looked at the tool

qmHandle

If you just type that in it will give you a list of options on how  
to deal

with the queue.

What do you have your queue lifetime set to?

If you have Qmail toaster plus installed then you have qmHandle.

Thanks
Q


-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:58 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

My qmail-toaster seems to have hundreds, if not thousands of messages
undelivered and sitting in the queue. This has reached the point that
local messages, from users who are on the server to other users on
the server, are not being delivered, even hours after they have been
sent. I have followed the instructions on http://
wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Queuelifetime as well as attempting a
reboot of the server. Nothing seems to clear out the queue, force the
system to deliver or give up, and move on.

Does anyone have any other suggestions. My users are frantic. They
live by their email communication, and with that down, they are
giving me no peace, and I currently have no useful solutions.


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RE: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-05 Thread Kyle Quillen

Try this command

qmHandle -M 

That will delete all of the email that was not able to be sent.


See if that lessens the queue.  The other day I just ended up deleting the
entire queue. And all was well.

Thanks
Q



-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:33 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

I changed my queue lifetime to one hour (3600)

qmHandle was useful for seeing what is in the queue. But I still  
can't get it to /process/ the queue.

On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:

 Hello,

 I just had this issue the other day.


 Have you looked at the tool

 qmHandle

 If you just type that in it will give you a list of options on how  
 to deal
 with the queue.

 What do you have your queue lifetime set to?

 If you have Qmail toaster plus installed then you have qmHandle.

 Thanks
 Q


 -Original Message-
 From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:58 PM
 To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
 Subject: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

 My qmail-toaster seems to have hundreds, if not thousands of messages
 undelivered and sitting in the queue. This has reached the point that
 local messages, from users who are on the server to other users on
 the server, are not being delivered, even hours after they have been
 sent. I have followed the instructions on http://
 wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Queuelifetime as well as attempting a
 reboot of the server. Nothing seems to clear out the queue, force the
 system to deliver or give up, and move on.

 Does anyone have any other suggestions. My users are frantic. They
 live by their email communication, and with that down, they are
 giving me no peace, and I currently have no useful solutions.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-05 Thread Roxanne Sandesara
Wiping things out of the queue is not helping. It's not delivering  
anything to the users. However, mail is getting out.


Is there something that could be preventing qmail from delivering  
messages to the users, thusly forcing the local queue sky-high?


On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:


Is it possible to just purge the whole queue?

I know it means lost email but I just bit the bullet and did it.

Are these spam messages that your getting hit with an open relay?


I had thousands of @yahoo.com.tw emails in mine.

Thanks
Q


-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:51 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

qmHandle -M deleted what appeared to be about 50 messages.

There are still thousands of messages in the local queue. No mail is
being delivered to the users. No mail is going out.

This is really bad.

On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:35 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:



Try this command

qmHandle -M

That will delete all of the email that was not able to be sent.


See if that lessens the queue.  The other day I just ended up
deleting the
entire queue. And all was well.

Thanks
Q



-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:33 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

I changed my queue lifetime to one hour (3600)

qmHandle was useful for seeing what is in the queue. But I still
can't get it to /process/ the queue.

On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:


Hello,

I just had this issue the other day.


Have you looked at the tool

qmHandle

If you just type that in it will give you a list of options on how
to deal
with the queue.

What do you have your queue lifetime set to?

If you have Qmail toaster plus installed then you have qmHandle.

Thanks
Q


-Original Message-
From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:58 PM
To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
Subject: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

My qmail-toaster seems to have hundreds, if not thousands of  
messages
undelivered and sitting in the queue. This has reached the point  
that

local messages, from users who are on the server to other users on
the server, are not being delivered, even hours after they have been
sent. I have followed the instructions on http://
wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Queuelifetime as well as  
attempting a
reboot of the server. Nothing seems to clear out the queue, force  
the

system to deliver or give up, and move on.

Does anyone have any other suggestions. My users are frantic. They
live by their email communication, and with that down, they are
giving me no peace, and I currently have no useful solutions.


 
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-05 Thread Natalio Gatti
what can you see in your /var/log/qmai/send/current log?
what is your /var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote value?



On 10/5/07, Roxanne Sandesara [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Wiping things out of the queue is not helping. It's not delivering
 anything to the users. However, mail is getting out.

 Is there something that could be preventing qmail from delivering
 messages to the users, thusly forcing the local queue sky-high?

 On Oct 5, 2007, at 3:54 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:

  Is it possible to just purge the whole queue?
 
  I know it means lost email but I just bit the bullet and did it.
 
  Are these spam messages that your getting hit with an open relay?
 
 
  I had thousands of @yahoo.com.tw emails in mine.
 
  Thanks
  Q
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 3:51 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender
 
  qmHandle -M deleted what appeared to be about 50 messages.
 
  There are still thousands of messages in the local queue. No mail is
  being delivered to the users. No mail is going out.
 
  This is really bad.
 
  On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:35 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:
 
 
  Try this command
 
  qmHandle -M
 
  That will delete all of the email that was not able to be sent.
 
 
  See if that lessens the queue.  The other day I just ended up
  deleting the
  entire queue. And all was well.
 
  Thanks
  Q
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 2:33 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender
 
  I changed my queue lifetime to one hour (3600)
 
  qmHandle was useful for seeing what is in the queue. But I still
  can't get it to /process/ the queue.
 
  On Oct 5, 2007, at 2:00 PM, Kyle Quillen wrote:
 
  Hello,
 
  I just had this issue the other day.
 
 
  Have you looked at the tool
 
  qmHandle
 
  If you just type that in it will give you a list of options on how
  to deal
  with the queue.
 
  What do you have your queue lifetime set to?
 
  If you have Qmail toaster plus installed then you have qmHandle.
 
  Thanks
  Q
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Roxanne Sandesara [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Friday, October 05, 2007 1:58 PM
  To: qmailtoaster-list@qmailtoaster.com
  Subject: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender
 
  My qmail-toaster seems to have hundreds, if not thousands of
  messages
  undelivered and sitting in the queue. This has reached the point
  that
  local messages, from users who are on the server to other users on
  the server, are not being delivered, even hours after they have been
  sent. I have followed the instructions on http://
  wiki.qmailtoaster.com/index.php/Queuelifetime as well as
  attempting a
  reboot of the server. Nothing seems to clear out the queue, force
  the
  system to deliver or give up, and move on.
 
  Does anyone have any other suggestions. My users are frantic. They
  live by their email communication, and with that down, they are
  giving me no peace, and I currently have no useful solutions.
 
 
  
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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-05 Thread Todd W


From: Roxanne Sandesara [EMAIL PROTECTED]



/var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote = 60

Any idea what 'unable to open todo' means? Or what I should do about it?

/var/log/qmail/send current:
Script started on Fri 05 Oct 2007 04:52:25 PM EDT
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# qmlog send
10-05 16:52:15 warning: unable to open todo/3490361


The only thing google found was 
http://securepoint.com/lists/html/Qmail/2007-04/msg00091.html


A single reply to the op asked if the disk was full. There is no reply.

I imagine you saw it, too... but just out of curiosity is your disk full?

$ sudo df -h

Regards,

Todd W.


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Re: [qmailtoaster] Queued into surrender

2007-10-05 Thread Roxanne Sandesara

I've got nearly 50% free space on the disk.

On Oct 5, 2007, at 8:11 PM, Todd W wrote:



From: Roxanne Sandesara [EMAIL PROTECTED]



/var/qmail/control/concurrencyremote = 60

Any idea what 'unable to open todo' means? Or what I should do  
about it?


/var/log/qmail/send current:
Script started on Fri 05 Oct 2007 04:52:25 PM EDT
]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# qmlog send
10-05 16:52:15 warning: unable to open todo/3490361


The only thing google found was http://securepoint.com/lists/html/ 
Qmail/2007-04/msg00091.html


A single reply to the op asked if the disk was full. There is no  
reply.


I imagine you saw it, too... but just out of curiosity is your disk  
full?


$ sudo df -h

Regards,

Todd W.


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