Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] successful
Before becoming a quad I rode on a small piper cub or cherokee for just a fun plane ride as a teen, then as an adult my wife and I flew on jets out to California to visit her sister and see las Vegas .Since i got injured we have not had a lot of extra money to even try plane vacation or trips.--- On that small plane ride as a kid...the Pilot started talking and acting wierd, driving funny and yelling that our lives were now in his hands!! (scared the crap out me and my brothers ) I think he was just trying to amuse himself and have fun because he knew we had never flown before and he had a plane service that offered rides for a fee out of a small country airport. Dan H.** From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@msn.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, January 13, 2013 4:09:19 PM Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] successful Interesting stories, guys. Out of curiosity, how many on this list, like myself, have not ridden an airplane as a quad? Heck, I've never ridden a passenger plane in my life. The nearest airport to my homestead is over 100 miles away. We are an urbane and sophisticated lot down here in Ky.:) The Turtle Man is from the neighboring county. When I was injured back in 1971, I was taken to the hospital in a hearse! (True) Hope everyone has a happy and healthy night. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: January 13, 2013, 3:08:14 PM EST To: aa999...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] successful I've taken both the Coach USA bus to Midway and O'Hare Airports (they run every two hours) and I've taken the Chicago-South Shore to downtown and the Orange Line to Midway as well as the Blue Line to OHare. Both Chicago Airports have a Sticky Patch they issue to DisAbled Travelers, for special attention. Wearing the Sticky Patch with the airline symbol offers its user the best in mobility services. Those wearing the Maroon Vest work for the airports to ensure safety. The Sticky Patch also can help going thru security to the departing gates. I hope your return was just as easy. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/13/2013 12:44:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, aa999...@yahoo.com writes: my recent travels from Indiana, southern Arizona just before the holiday season.yes, I have traveled numerous times before this but flying out of Chicago has always been a nightmare!taking a shuttle bus from South Bend to Chicago in just over a two hour ride departing at 4 AM. So once in Chicago I had about an hour and a half before the departing flight and it seemed going through security was not too much of a hassle. Just after a few minutes of waiting at the departing the gate, I was approached by the individual for special needs. Now, in times past, they usually transferred me from my power chair directly to the aisle chair for the aircraft but I had a different idea. This time around. Straight from my power chair to a manual chair and then to the aisle chair. , With following my directions of breaking down my chair and securing a gym bag of my clothing on top of the wheelchair parts to make one beautiful package to fit under the plane. Using two ratchet straps and commercial grade saran wrap to ensure everything would stay together even when they laid chair down on its side. Even with my chair broken down, it barely fits in the cargo hole of the aircraft. Getting the bulkhead seats are the first row of seats in coach section and on the right-hand side of seating in the middle seat with my traveling companion taking the window seat. Departing nearly on time, which was very rare than previous departures. I am 3/4c complete 6 feet tall and just over 200 pounds, so transferring me is not the easiest. Once we touched down the chair was actually still all put together the same way we packed it prior to flight. So getting to the airport with enough time to spare is key in not getting a damage chair during flight and this occurred also on the returning flight. So anybody has any questions about this travel fell free to ask and had an excellent time celebrating my grandpa's 90th birthday. I hope everybody had a great holiday season and is ready for this new year. All is well. Concerning my health really don't have any complaints at this time except for my new chair. And it's been nearly a year now on getting my new chair ordered and delivered. It's from 21st-century product and looks a lot more durable than my current Invacare product! But for now programming it is the next hurdle and hope to have it on the road in the near future. Will let you know once I have it up and running. Take care my friends and have a good one.
Fwd: [QUAD-L] successful
No. I have that book, though. I'll check it out. I didn't know you were in there! Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: bobbie...@aol.com Date: January 13, 2013, 9:52:08 PM EST To: lwillis82...@msn.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] successful Larry, Did you write a chapter in the book From There to Here ? There was a quad in that book who was transported in a hearse. I wrote a chapter in that book. Bobbie -Original Message- From: Larry Willis lwillis82...@msn.com To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sun, Jan 13, 2013 5:08 pm Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] successful Interesting stories, guys. Out of curiosity, how many on this list, like myself, have not ridden an airplane as a quad? Heck, I've never ridden a passenger plane in my life. The nearest airport to my homestead is over 100 miles away. We are an urbane and sophisticated lot down here in Ky.:) The Turtle Man is from the neighboring county. When I was injured back in 1971, I was taken to the hospital in a hearse! (True) Hope everyone has a happy and healthy night. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: wheelch...@aol.com Date: January 13, 2013, 3:08:14 PM EST To: aa999...@yahoo.com, quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] successful I've taken both the Coach USA bus to Midway and O'Hare Airports (they run every two hours) and I've taken the Chicago-South Shore to downtown and the Orange Line to Midway as well as the Blue Line to OHare. Both Chicago Airports have a Sticky Patch they issue to DisAbled Travelers, for special attention. Wearing the Sticky Patch with the airline symbol offers its user the best in mobility services. Those wearing the Maroon Vest work for the airports to ensure safety. The Sticky Patch also can help going thru security to the departing gates. I hope your return was just as easy. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/13/2013 12:44:41 P.M. Central Standard Time, aa999...@yahoo.com writes: my recent travels from Indiana, southern Arizona just before the holiday season.yes, I have traveled numerous times before this but flying out of Chicago has always been a nightmare!taking a shuttle bus from South Bend to Chicago in just over a two hour ride departing at 4 AM. So once in Chicago I had about an hour and a half before the departing flight and it seemed going through security was not too much of a hassle. Just after a few minutes of waiting at the departing the gate, I was approached by the individual for special needs. Now, in times past, they usually transferred me from my power chair directly to the aisle chair for the aircraft but I had a different idea. This time around. Straight from my power chair to a manual chair and then to the aisle chair. , With following my directions of breaking down my chair and securing a gym bag of my clothing on top of the wheelchair parts to make one beautiful package to fit under the plane. Using two ratchet straps and commercial grade saran wrap to ensure everything would stay together even when they laid chair down on its side. Even with my chair broken down, it barely fits in the cargo hole of the aircraft. Getting the bulkhead seats are the first row of seats in coach section and on the right-hand side of seating in the middle seat with my traveling companion taking the window seat. Departing nearly on time, which was very rare than previous departures. I am 3/4c complete 6 feet tall and just over 200 pounds, so transferring me is not the easiest. Once we touched down the chair was actually still all put together the same way we packed it prior to flight. So getting to the airport with enough time to spare is key in not getting a damage chair during flight and this occurred also on the returning flight. So anybody has any questions about this travel fell free to ask and had an excellent time celebrating my grandpa's 90th birthday. I hope everybody had a great holiday season and is ready for this new year. All is well. Concerning my health really don't have any complaints at this time except for my new chair. And it's been nearly a year now on getting my new chair ordered and delivered. It's from 21st-century product and looks a lot more durable than my current Invacare product! But for now programming it is the next hurdle and hope to have it on the road in the near future. Will let you know once I have it up and running. Take care my friends and have a good one.
[QUAD-L] mini vans
Hi all, I am going to buy a new min van, yea! But I want the ramp to not be steep like the dodge van I have now. It is a fold out type. I dont trust the sales people.They have an in floor type called Northstar that is suppose to be lower. a summit ramp was another.? do you guys have any thoughts.Also, the kneel systems. Do they work ok? I also want to get a Toyota sienna because the dodge was not the best. thanks Best, Shirley Bell www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
Re: [QUAD-L] mini vans
I'd begin with NMEDA's website_www.nmeda.com_ (http://www.nmeda.com) or _www.nmeda.org_ (http://www.nmeda.org)as download a free copy of HOW TO BUY, or you can call them for a free copy sent to you. Are you considering a crash tested unit, or one just as good? Will you be the 1st owner or 2nd owner (new). What exactly is the grade/pitch degrees are you looking for? Are you considering a ramp in the floor or 60/40 ramp? Remember that production of brand models, change every year. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/14/2013 11:41:08 A.M. Central Standard Time, sbell...@cox.net writes: Hi all, I am going to buy a new min van, yea! But I want the ramp to not be steep like the dodge van I have now. It is a fold out type. I dont trust the sales people.They have an in floor type called Northstar that is suppose to be lower. a summit ramp was another.? do you guys have any thoughts.Also, the kneel systems. Do they work ok? I also want to get a Toyota sienna because the dodge was not the best. thanks Best, Shirley Bell _www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com_ (http://www.shirleybelldesigns.com/)
[QUAD-L] Fwd: My Buddy Ray
From: Billy Lang Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: My Buddy Ray My Buddy Ray died last week. He had COPD and carried an oxygen tank along with him everywhere he went. A few years ago he contracted pneumonia. He was placed in a coma and put on a respirator. I never thought I would see him again but he pulled through. This completely changed my perception . From that day on I would never give up on anyone. Never in my realm of experiencing loved ones dying did I expect Ray to breathe on his own once he was taken off the respirator. Years later, after going out to eat with my parents, Bobbie and my wife Paula, Ray fell and broke his hip. It was the beginning of a long desperate battle that ended ultimately in his death. At the wake there were the same platitudes namely it was his time, he couldn't fight anymore and he is at rest now. Today, I got back on my old desktop computer and realized I had no new jokes. For at least the last five years Ray had been sending me emails of jokes, prayers, lessons on life, politics (mostly against Obama) and the occasional e-card. Now, Ray did not send one a day. He would send five or the occasional seven emails. Up until the middle of 2012 he would send the emails as attachments where you annoyingly had to click open the email he sent then click open the attachment and If the attachment opened a web address or a movie there was another click. It got so frustrating that I really didn't care if the email was funny. So, as a tribute to Ray, my Buddy, here’s a message he sent me in October, 2012 as an attachment: Just in case I'm gone tomorrow As I approach my mid-seventies, I am struck by the inevitability that the party must end. And one clear, cold morning after I'm gone, my wife will awaken in the warmth of our bedroom and she will be struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn't anymore. No more hugs, no more special moments to celebrate together, no more phone calls just to chat, no more just one minute. Sometimes, what we care about the most gets all used up and goes away, never to return before we can say good-bye, say I love you. So while we have it, it's best we love it, care for it, fix it when it's broken and heal it when it's sick. This is true for marriage.And old cars. And children with bad report cards, And dogs with bad hips. And aging parents and grandparents. We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it. Some things we keep -- like a best friend who moved away or a sister-in-law after divorce. There are just some things that make us happy, no matter what. Life is important, like people we know who are special. And so, we keep them close! Suppose one morning you never wake up, do all your friends know how you really feel? The important thing is to let every one of your friends know your true feelings, even if you think they don't love you back. RIP Ray, I miss you and the emails. Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Billy
Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: My Buddy Ray
Sounds like a wonderful cherished friendship. That was a very nice tribute. -Original Message- From: Billy Lang blan...@verizon.net To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 1:20 pm Subject: [QUAD-L] Fwd: My Buddy Ray From: Billy Lang Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: My Buddy Ray My Buddy Ray died last week. He had COPD and carried an oxygen tank along with him everywhere he went. A few years ago he contracted pneumonia. He was placed in a coma and put on a respirator. I never thought I would see him again but he pulled through. This completely changed my perception . From that day on I would never give up on anyone. Never in my realm of experiencing loved ones dying did I expect Ray to breathe on his own once he was taken off the respirator. Years later, after going out to eat with my parents, Bobbie and my wife Paula, Ray fell and broke his hip. It was the beginning of a long desperate battle that ended ultimately in his death. At the wake there were the same platitudes namely it was his time, he couldn't fight anymore and he is at rest now. Today, I got back on my old desktop computer and realized I had no new jokes. For at least the last five years Ray had been sending me emails of jokes, prayers, lessons on life, politics (mostly against Obama) and the occasional e-card. Now, Ray did not send one a day. He would send five or the occasional seven emails. Up until the middle of 2012 he would send the emails as attachments where you annoyingly had to click open the email he sent then click open the attachment and If the attachment opened a web address or a movie there was another click. It got so frustrating that I really didn't care if the email was funny. So, as a tribute to Ray, my Buddy, here’s a message he sent me in October, 2012 as an attachment: Just in case I'm gone tomorrow As I approach my mid-seventies, I am struck by the inevitability that the party must end. And one clear, cold morning after I'm gone, my wife will awaken in the warmth of our bedroom and she will be struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn't anymore. No more hugs, no more special moments to celebrate together, no more phone calls just to chat, no more just one minute. Sometimes, what we care about the most gets all used up and goes away, never to return before we can say good-bye, say I love you. So while we have it, it's best we love it, care for it, fix it when it's broken and heal it when it's sick. This is true for marriage.And old cars. And children with bad report cards, And dogs with bad hips. And aging parents and grandparents. We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it. Some things we keep -- like a best friend who moved away or a sister-in-law after divorce. There are just some things that make us happy, no matter what. Life is important, like people we know who are special. And so, we keep them close! Suppose one morning you never wake up, do all your friends know how you really feel? The important thing is to let every one of your friends know your true feelings, even if you think they don't love you back. RIP Ray, I miss you and the emails. Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Billy
Re: [QUAD-L] mini vans
I have a 07 caravan with the kneeling system it works great. This summer I had to have the kneeling system replaced while waiting for estimates, I continued to use it it was too steep. So make sure you get the kneeling system. Dianna Hi all, I am going to buy a new min van, yea! But I want the ramp to not be steep like the dodge van I have now. It is a fold out type. I dont trust the sales people.They have an in floor type called Northstar that is suppose to be lower. a summit ramp was another.? do you guys have any thoughts.Also, the kneel systems. Do they work ok? I also want to get a Toyota sienna because the dodge was not the best. thanks Best, Shirley Bell -Original Message- From: shirley bell sbell...@cox.net To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Mon, Jan 14, 2013 12:41 pm Subject: [QUAD-L] mini vans Hi all, I am going to buy a new min van, yea! But I want the ramp to not be steep like the dodge van I have now. It is a fold out type. I dont trust the sales people.They have an in floor type called Northstar that is suppose to be lower. a summit ramp was another.? do you guys have any thoughts.Also, the kneel systems. Do they work ok? I also want to get a Toyota sienna because the dodge was not the best. thanks Best, Shirley Bell www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
Re: [QUAD-L] Fwd: My Buddy Ray
Loved it, Billy. Sorry for your loss. Ray sounds like an amazing guy. I, too, have seen some amazing recoveries from sickness. I have seen miracles and it makes me want to keep fighting on. About 10 years ago I was in the hospital with pnuemonia. That was the sickest I've ever been and about the scariest time in my life. Lots of prayers and good friends helped me through that. I try to remember that moment to appreciate today. Be thankful for every day. Don. From: Billy Lang Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 1:35 PM Subject: My Buddy Ray My Buddy Ray died last week. He had COPD and carried an oxygen tank along with him everywhere he went. A few years ago he contracted pneumonia. He was placed in a coma and put on a respirator. I never thought I would see him again but he pulled through. This completely changed my perception . From that day on I would never give up on anyone. Never in my realm of experiencing loved ones dying did I expect Ray to breathe on his own once he was taken off the respirator. Years later, after going out to eat with my parents, Bobbie and my wife Paula, Ray fell and broke his hip. It was the beginning of a long desperate battle that ended ultimately in his death. At the wake there were the same platitudes namely it was his time, he couldn't fight anymore and he is at rest now. Today, I got back on my old desktop computer and realized I had no new jokes. For at least the last five years Ray had been sending me emails of jokes, prayers, lessons on life, politics (mostly against Obama) and the occasional e-card. Now, Ray did not send one a day. He would send five or the occasional seven emails. Up until the middle of 2012 he would send the emails as attachments where you annoyingly had to click open the email he sent then click open the attachment and If the attachment opened a web address or a movie there was another click. It got so frustrating that I really didn't care if the email was funny. So, as a tribute to Ray, my Buddy, here’s a message he sent me in October, 2012 as an attachment: Just in case I'm gone tomorrow As I approach my mid-seventies, I am struck by the inevitability that the party must end. And one clear, cold morning after I'm gone, my wife will awaken in the warmth of our bedroom and she will be struck with the pain of learning that sometimes there isn't anymore. No more hugs, no more special moments to celebrate together, no more phone calls just to chat, no more just one minute. Sometimes, what we care about the most gets all used up and goes away, never to return before we can say good-bye, say I love you. So while we have it, it's best we love it, care for it, fix it when it's broken and heal it when it's sick. This is true for marriage.And old cars. And children with bad report cards, And dogs with bad hips. And aging parents and grandparents. We keep them because they are worth it, because we are worth it. Some things we keep -- like a best friend who moved away or a sister-in-law after divorce. There are just some things that make us happy, no matter what. Life is important, like people we know who are special. And so, we keep them close! Suppose one morning you never wake up, do all your friends know how you really feel? The important thing is to let every one of your friends know your true feelings, even if you think they don't love you back. RIP Ray, I miss you and the emails. Don't let what you cannot do interfere with what you can do! Billy
[QUAD-L] Invalid
I just looked up the work invalid … it's me …. Bobbie
[QUAD-L] Coolest wheelchairs ever!
My friend, Lance Greathouse, builds the coolest custom wheelchairs on the planet (and maybe outside the planet.) Checkout some of his crazy contraptions here: http://www.greathouselabs.com/2011/10/wheelchairs/ Don.
RE: [QUAD-L] Coolest wheelchairs ever!
I WANT ONE! J Joan From: Don Price [mailto:donpric...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:30 PM To: quadlist Subject: [QUAD-L] Coolest wheelchairs ever! My friend, Lance Greathouse, builds the coolest custom wheelchairs on the planet (and maybe outside the planet.) Checkout some of his crazy contraptions here: http://www.greathouselabs.com/2011/10/wheelchairs/ Don.
Re: [QUAD-L] Invalid
Try looking up the word TENACIOUS or INTREPID or RESILIENT or ... FRIEND! From: bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:11 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Invalid I just looked up the work invalid … it's me …. Bobbie
Fwd: [QUAD-L] Flu Shots/vomiting
I don't know what is causing my spasms. I have a small sore on my hip and my bladder feels scratchy nearly all the time. I take oxy as well and it does help. Like you, I would nearly bet it is a pain issue. Anti-spasm drugs like baclofen really are useless. Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: From: greg g...@eskimo.com Date: January 14, 2013, 7:35:51 PM EST To: Larry Willis lwillis82...@msn.com Subject: Re: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Flu Shots/vomiting I tried every anti spasm pill there was and nothing worked. My spasms were caused by pain. Once I took an Oxycontin it was like calm peace. I slept all day the first day. Just from the relief. My doc at first didn't believe me, he said Oxys did not help spasms. I told him I knew the spasms were from the pain... even though I could not feel the hip pain. Once he saw me he believed me. I'm a big believer in pain meds (If they are needed and work...) I hate taking un needed meds, but quality of life is important. Do you know why you are spasming? Greg Greg, I have that abdominal spasm problem as well. It's like every muscle in my body makes a tight fist at the same time. It hurts like hell and takes my breath away. Triggers dysreflexia every time. What did the doc do to relieve your symptoms? Sent from my iPad Begin forwarded message: Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com From: greg g...@eskimo.com Date: January 13, 2013, 5:48:56 PM EST To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Flu Shots/vomiting I can only recall throwing up 2 times as a quad, neither from being sick. Once was when getting an x-ray, the kidney kind where you have to drink all that stuff. Down it went, then up it came. The other time was after 20+ years as a quad and and then hurting my hip. My body was spasming pretty bad. I was in real pain and my legs/abdomen were jerking so hard I was grunting. My whole inner core was cramped tight, it felt like it was getting hard to breath. I went to the ER and started throwing up. They said my hip was causing Dysreflexia. Between my abdomen cramping so bad and my high BP, it just all came up. I think at least for me, as long as I'm sitting up there was no problems. It just naturally came up. If laying down, especially on my back, there may be issues. Greg I get a flu shot every year around September. This year I got the shot on my birthday, Sept. 28th. At Christmas my roommate/caregiver became sick with the flu. I managed to avoid catching it for a week but I did eventually get sick. While I caught the virus, my recovery time was much shorter than my roommate who did not get the shot. I think the flu shot aided in my quicker recovery, but I cannot prove that. My roommate is STILL suffering, while I am almost back to full health. I have never vomited in 30 years as a quad, but my body was definitely trying. I heaved for several minutes but did not vomit. Which made me wonder: are quads able to throw up? Do you need help to do this? Anyone have puking experience? I apologize for the unpleasant topic, but I'm truly curious.
