Re: [QUAD-L] I am shriveling up

2014-11-02 Thread Gmail
We're not exempt from illnesses or diseases either.  Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Nov 2, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Don Smith scamper2...@att.net wrote:
 
 I was injured in 88 and turned 50 this year, I have pretty much the same 
 issues as you.  Just bcuz we're quads don't exempt us from aging.
 Don in Calif.
 
 
 
 On Saturday, November 1, 2014 5:47 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 
 I was injured in 1982. I am 50 now. My age is catching up on me pretty fast.
 My feet swell and my toes like to curl up. My nails don't curl, but they are 
 very thick. I try spreading my toes out, but they just pop back. I went years 
 without lateral supports, so my spine is now curving bit. My eyes are getting 
 worse. Things use to pop up often, and I haven't noticed it do that for a 
 long time. And now I seem to have grown a 2nd chin/neck.
 Greg
 
 
 
  I am 42 years post now and and starting to shrivel up. It started
  with atrophy and my legs are getting very skinny. Then the
  scoliosis on my back where I lean over toward my left.
  I went to my podiatrist and he said I have bad foot drop and my
  toes are curling up on one foot and so are my toenails.
  It seems like the only place I am not shriveling, or curling, as my
  quad gut.
 
  Are any of the other older quads experiencing what I am? Bobbie
 
  Smile Everyday
 
 


Re: [QUAD-L] hemorrhoidectomy

2014-11-02 Thread Nan
Nicki,

I have not had that procedure, but I have had plenty of surgeries through the 
years.  The last time I had general anesthesia was in 1977.  I ended up with 
pneumonia and almost died.  Since then, I have opted for a spinal or epidural.  
Sedation can be added if you are nervous or apprehensive.  I have had 2 
children, a revision to my Koch Pouch (10 hour surgery), 3 flaps, and a 
complete hysterectomy along with many minor procedures without general 
anesthesia.

Sometimes the doctors will tell you a general is necessary ... ask to talk to 
the anesthesiologist!  All of the anesthesiologists I've dealt with were more 
than happy to avoid using general anesthesia on a quad.   

As you can tell, I am 100% in favor of the spinal option.  I hope this helps.

Good luck with your procedure.  My prayers will be with you.   

Nan  


On Saturday, November 1, 2014 5:22 PM, zoocr...@windstream.net 
zoocr...@windstream.net wrote:
 


Thanks Bob

He is going to cut them out and suture.I explained all my concerns and he 
reassured me while it will be extensive I should recover fine. I had a DVT that 
broke off and went into my lungs so been there done that.  

I've put it off for 3 yearsnever again

 Bob Vogel rhvsh...@mac.com wrote: 
 Back in my early days (about 8-years post injury--I'm a T10 complete para) I 
 had several hemorrhoid bandings--the proctologist uses a special tool 
 to put specially made, super-tight, rubber bands around the hemorrhoids, 
 within a week they shrivel up and vanish.  I never had any problems.
 
 HOWEVER, I had another friend that had a similar procedure and ended up with 
 a blood clot that went to his heart--he recovered, but was fortunate
 he knew what his symptoms meant.
 
 A couple things I've learned--make sure your doctor knows about dealing with 
 SCI and how we evacuate our bowels.  I have spoken with a few proctologists
 that won't even consider dealing with SCI and hemorrhoids.
 
 Per blood thinners--the main thing is to be monitored.  I am on blood 
 thinners, and I have had to go off of them from time to time--for 3-5 
 days--due to various
 minor surgical procedures.  No problem, but again, it is vital to communicate 
 all of this to the various medical professionals.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Bob V
 
 On Nov 1, 2014, at 1:22 PM, zoocr...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  Has anyone had a hemorrhoidectomy and will you share your experience as far 
  as general anesthesia versus spinal block and sedation, recovery time, etc.
  
  I am scheduled for surgery Dec. 8 and while it is an outpatient procedure 
  we're doing it at the hospital just in case something goes wrong. I'm on 
  blood thinner and nervous about going off of it even though he said we'd do 
  lovinox shots the 3 days before surgery and after. 
  
  Ready for relief!
  Nicki 
  
 

Re: [QUAD-L] I am shriveling up

2014-11-02 Thread Nan
Just wait until you're in your 60's! 


Seriously, I hear you Bobbie, Larry, et al.  I am 62 and my accident was 46 
years ago.  I used to be able to 

do SO much more than I can now.  The most debilitating conditions affecting 
me now are scoliosis and 

edema/lymphedema in my feet.

My only advice is to the younger (age + years post injury) quads - address 
these kind of problems before they occur.  Be hyper vigilant - listen to the 
older quads and try to be proactive.   Get a podiatrist if you don't have one. 
Address edema early - use compression stockings and use products that will keep 
your skin supple.  Be aware of how you sit ...  if you start to see curvature 
of your spine, address it immediately.  Don't ignore little things - often 
they will only get worse with time.  I wish I'd had older quads to listen to 
when I was younger - I always thought I could handle anything on my own.  I was 
wrong!


Nan
On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:33 AM, Don Smith scamper2...@att.net wrote:
 


I was injured in 88 and turned 50 this year, I have pretty much the same issues 
as you.  Just bcuz we're quads don't exempt us from aging.
Don in Calif.




On Saturday, November 1, 2014 5:47 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 


I was injured in 1982. I am 50 now. My age is catching up on me pretty fast.
My feet swell and my toes like to curl up. My nails don't curl, but they are 
very thick. I try spreading my toes out, but they just pop back. I went
 years without lateral supports, so my spine is now curving bit. My eyes are 
getting worse. Things use to pop up often, and I haven't noticed it do that for 
a long time. And now I seem to have grown a 2nd chin/neck.
Greg



 I am 42 years post now and and starting to shrivel up. It started
 with atrophy and my legs are getting very skinny. Then the
 scoliosis on my back where I lean over toward my left.
 I went to my podiatrist and he said I have bad foot drop and my
 toes are curling up on one foot and so are my
 toenails.
 It seems like the only place I am not shriveling, or curling, as my
 quad gut.

 Are any of the other older quads experiencing
 what I am? Bobbie

 Smile Everyday

Re: [QUAD-L] Reclining?

2014-11-02 Thread Nan
Bobbie,

Do you use a Roho?  I do and I've found that they lose air after a while.  This 
causes me to get sores - I've been sitting for so long my skin is incredibly 
fragile.  What I've learned is that when this happens, I need another pressure 
mapping.  Sometimes I have to fight to get one, but once I get it I can heal 
sores while in my chair.  Sometimes I have to recline for a week or so - watch 
TV, listen to music ... but once a sore starts to heal, I can start living 
again.
Have you had a pressure mapping recently?

Nan
On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:35 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 


I try to recline once an hour ... if I remember. I love to paint, and to put my 
brush down to recline takes the away the flow. And when I'm reading I would 
need to recline every chapter. 
I'm only up 7-8 hours and up one day then in 2-3 days
 for prevention.
November 7th I have an appointment to see a wound Doctor because I have a very 
small area stage 1 or less. 
I'm using DuoDerm extra thin.
But to tell you the truth, I'm sick and tired of needing to deal with all this 
shit.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Nov 1, 2014, at 9:00 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 How often do you recline your chair?
 I try to do it at leased every hour. I also am moving around a bit, bending 
 forward a bit to read, etc.
 I doubt when I lean forward or sideways a bit, it is enough to move the 
 pressure on my butt.
 After my bad pressure sore, I try to recline more often, but when I get into 
 a good book, or am playing cribbage online on my Kindle, I can forget. I 
 often have gone many hours without reclining.
 Greg
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Reclining?

2014-11-02 Thread Danny Hearn
Nan, I don't understand...if they do a pressure mapping, then what happens or 
what can be changed then?? I use Roho going on 18 years now. thank you Dan H**


On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:06 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
 


Bobbie,

Do you use a Roho?  I do and I've found that they lose air after a while.  This 
causes me to get sores - I've been sitting for so long my skin is incredibly 
fragile.  What I've learned is that when this happens, I need another pressure 
mapping.  Sometimes I have to fight to get one, but once I get it I can heal 
sores while in my chair.  Sometimes I have to recline for a week or so - watch 
TV, listen to music ... but once a sore starts to heal, I can start living 
again.
Have you had a pressure mapping recently?

Nan
On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:35 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
wrote:
 


I try to recline once an hour ... if I remember. I love to paint, and to put my 
brush down to recline takes the away the flow. And when I'm reading I would 
need to recline every chapter. 
I'm only up 7-8 hours and up one day then in 2-3 days
 for prevention.
November 7th I have an appointment to see a wound Doctor because I have a very 
small area stage 1 or less. 
I'm using DuoDerm extra thin.
But to tell you the truth, I'm sick and tired of needing to deal with all this 
shit.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Nov 1, 2014, at 9:00 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 How often do you recline your chair?
 I try to do it at leased every hour. I also am moving around a bit, bending
 forward a bit to read, etc.
 I doubt when I lean forward or sideways a bit, it is enough to move the 
 pressure on my butt.
 After my bad pressure sore, I try to recline more often, but when I get into 
 a good book, or am playing cribbage online on my Kindle, I can forget. I 
 often have gone many hours without reclining.
 Greg
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Reclining?

2014-11-02 Thread donald scott
   I have been in my chair going on 24 years.  I have always used a reclining 
chair, never a tilt.  I like that my knees get bending during raises and better 
blood flow for legs. I try and recline once a hour as well and even more when 
I'm on my putr just chillin' at home, but just like last night I was at a 
amusement park and only did 1 raise in 5 hours. So sometimes I'm bad. I have 
always done 14 hours up and 10 hours in bed. I start on my back in bed and turn 
on my side about 4 hours into the night. I have heard many horror stories about 
air cushions so I have stuck with Jay1, Jay2, and now Jay3 mud cushions. I only 
wear blue  jeans. 

   I rarely have any breakdown with this routine. If when I go to bed and there 
is any redness or openness we put Silver Sulfadazine and a 2x2 gauze patch over 
it and then more cream at bed time, so twice a day with cream. If it continues 
to be open or red I start only doing 8 hours up and 16 hours down with same 
cream and more time on side. This will clear it all up within a week for me. 

   I know everyone has different reaction and situations but this has worked 
well for me SO FAR. As we age I think the skin breaks down and more issues will 
arise. I hope this information is helpful.

   Have some fun today,
   Donald C6 


On Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:21 AM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  


Nan, I don't understand...if they do a pressure mapping, then what happens or 
what can be changed then?? I use Roho going on 18 years now. thank you Dan H** 


On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:06 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
  


Bobbie,

Do you use a Roho?  I do and I've found that they lose air after a while.  This 
causes me to get sores - I've been sitting for so long my skin is incredibly 
fragile.  What I've learned is that when this happens, I need another pressure 
mapping.  Sometimes I have to fight to get one, but once I get it I can heal 
sores while in my chair.  Sometimes I have to recline for a week or so - watch 
TV, listen to music ... but once a sore starts to heal, I can start living 
again.
Have you had a pressure mapping recently?

Nan 
On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:35 PM, Gmail bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com 
wrote:
  


I try to recline once an hour ... if I remember. I love to paint, and to put my 
brush down to recline takes the away the flow. And when I'm reading I would 
need to recline every chapter. 
I'm only up 7-8 hours and up one day then in 2-3 days
 for prevention.
November 7th I have an appointment to see a wound Doctor because I have a very 
small area stage 1 or less. 
I'm using DuoDerm extra thin.
But to tell you the truth, I'm sick and tired of needing to deal with all this 
shit.
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Nov 1, 2014, at 9:00 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:
 
 How
 often do you recline your chair?
 I try to do it at leased every hour. I also am moving around a bit, bending
 forward a bit to read, etc.
 I doubt when I lean forward or sideways a bit, it is enough to move the 
 pressure on my butt.
 After my bad pressure sore, I try to recline more often, but when I get into 
 a good book, or am playing cribbage online on my Kindle, I can forget. I 
 often have gone many hours without reclining.
 Greg
 

Re: [QUAD-L] Reclining?

2014-11-02 Thread Gmail
I do use a roho in my chair and bed. I/we check it regularly. 
Bobbie 

Smile Everyday

 On Nov 2, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Bobbie,
 
 Do you use a Roho?  I do and I've found that they lose air after a while.  
 This causes me to get sores - I've been sitting for so long my skin is 
 incredibly fragile.  What I've learned is that when this happens, I need 
 another pressure mapping.  Sometimes I have to fight to get one, but once I 
 get it I can heal sores while in my chair.  Sometimes I have to recline for a 
 week or so - watch TV, listen to music ... but once a sore starts to heal, I 
 can start living again.
 Have you had a pressure mapping recently?
 
 Nan


Fwd: [QUAD-L] Reclining?

2014-11-02 Thread lwillis821
After 43 years, my skin is as thin and fragile as a soap bubble. I have a 
shallow but open wound on my butt that has plagued me for close to ten years. 
Also one on my left hip. Any wound I get on my feet/legs takes forever to heal, 
if it heals at all. My legs stay bent because of crushed knees. It is a bit of 
hell on a daily basis. Insert here a long line of $);/$!!!

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

 Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
 From: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 Date: November 2, 2014 at 2:37:58 PM EST
 To: Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net, quad-list@eskimo.com 
 quad-list@eskimo.com
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Reclining?
 Reply-To: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com
 
I have been in my chair going on 24 years.  I have always used a reclining 
 chair, never a tilt.  I like that my knees get bending during raises and 
 better blood flow for legs. I try and recline once a hour as well and even 
 more when I'm on my putr just chillin' at home, but just like last night I 
 was at a amusement park and only did 1 raise in 5 hours. So sometimes I'm 
 bad. I have always done 14 hours up and 10 hours in bed. I start on my back 
 in bed and turn on my side about 4 hours into the night. I have heard many 
 horror stories about air cushions so I have stuck with Jay1, Jay2, and now 
 Jay3 mud cushions. I only wear blue  jeans.
 
I rarely have any breakdown with this routine. If when I go to bed and 
 there is any redness or openness we put Silver Sulfadazine and a 2x2 gauze 
 patch over it and then more cream at bed time, so twice a day with cream. If 
 it continues to be open or red I start only doing 8 hours up and 16 hours 
 down with same cream and more time on side. This will clear it all up within 
 a week for me. 
 
I know everyone has different reaction and situations but this has worked 
 well for me SO FAR. As we age I think the skin breaks down and more issues 
 will arise. I hope this information is helpful.
 
Have some fun today,
Donald C6
 
 
 On Sunday, November 2, 2014 10:21 AM, Danny Hearn ddh...@sbcglobal.net 
 wrote:
 
 
 Nan, I don't understand...if they do a pressure mapping, then what happens or 
 what can be changed then?? I use Roho going on 18 years now. thank you Dan H**
 
 
 On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:06 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 
 Bobbie,
 
 Do you use a Roho?  I do and I've found that they lose air after a while.  
 This causes me to get sores - I've been sitting for so long my skin is 
 incredibly fragile.  What I've learned is that when this happens, I need 
 another pressure mapping.  Sometimes I have to fight to get one, but once I 
 get it I can heal sores while in my chair.  Sometimes I have to recline for a 
 week or so - watch TV, listen to music ... but once a sore starts to heal, I 
 can start living again.
 Have you had a pressure mapping recently?
 
 Nan
 
 
 
 


[QUAD-L] adema or swollen feet

2014-11-02 Thread Danny Hearn
I know some of us deal with swollen legs and feet,  but about 2 months ago my 
feet have swollen real bad-I can only wear soft house slippers now..in the past 
we just had to elevate my legs some at night and they got better but now they 
stay very swelled up, my family doc. had me try Lasik A water pill I think plus 
had me try wearing compression hose stockings, but that did not help a whole 
lot, does anyone know what can be done or what type doctor can treat this?? We 
are not sure if is even treatable? Anyway's thanks for any information from any 
of you that deal with this or know any more that can be done/ ?  thank you ! 
Dan H**

Re: [QUAD-L] adema or swollen feet

2014-11-02 Thread wheelchair
Dan, it appears to be a circulation issue.  I'd consider a heart  
specialist.  You might need a referral from your primary doc.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 11/2/2014 6:34:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

I know some of us deal with swollen legs and feet,  but about 2  months ago 
my feet have swollen real bad-I can only wear soft house slippers  now..in 
the past we just had to elevate my legs some at night and they got  better 
but now they stay very swelled up, my family doc. had me try Lasik A  water 
pill I think plus had me try wearing compression hose stockings, but  that 
did not help a whole lot, does anyone know what can be done or what type  
doctor can treat this?? We are not sure if is even treatable? Anyway's thanks  
for any information from any of you that deal with this or know any more that 
 can be done/ ?  thank you ! Dan  H**



Fwd: [QUAD-L] adema or swollen feet

2014-11-02 Thread Larry Willis
Wow, stockings and elevation have always been my go-to. If possible, you
should try to figure out WHY this has started. My left foot stays swollen
like that.

-- Forwarded message --
From: *Danny Hearn* ddh...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Sunday, November 2, 2014
Subject: [QUAD-L] adema or swollen feet
To: quad-list@eskimo.com quad-list@eskimo.com


I know some of us deal with swollen legs and feet,  but about 2 months ago
my feet have swollen real bad-I can only wear soft house slippers now..in
the past we just had to elevate my legs some at night and they got better
but now they stay very swelled up, my family doc. had me try Lasik A water
pill I think plus had me try wearing compression hose stockings, but that
did not help a whole lot, does anyone know what can be done or what type
doctor can treat this?? We are not sure if is even treatable? Anyway's
thanks for any information from any of you that deal with this or know any
more that can be done/ ?  thank you ! Dan H**


Re: [QUAD-L] Reclining?

2014-11-02 Thread greg
I have been pressure mapped a few times. It helps find the perfect amount of 
air to use, or how far you need to recline for best relief. But I got mapped on 
a few different Roho cushions. I found there were a few Rohos that did not give 
me good pressure relief. Different Rohos change your posture, etc. I really 
wanted the Roho that has the foam sides that keep your legs straight. But it 
just didn't work for me. Also, you can make changes to your chair's back or 
legrests and it changes your posture. Good to make those changes then get 
mapped. After I added Lateral supports it totally changed my mapping. I had to 
be careful to make sure I didn't move the pressure to where I had my previous 
sore. Greg



 Nan, I don't understand...if they do a pressure mapping, then what
 happens or what can be changed then?? I use Roho going on 18 years
 now. thank you Dan H**


 On Sunday, November 2, 2014 12:06 PM, Nan nlg52...@yahoo.com
 wrote:


 Bobbie,


 Do you use a Roho?
 I do and I've found that they lose air after a while.  This causes
 me to get sores - I've been
 sitting for so long my skin is incredibly fragile.  What I've
 learned is that when this happens, I need another pressure mapping.
  Sometimes I have to fight to get one, but once I get it I can heal
 sores while in my chair.  Sometimes I have to recline for a week or
 so - watch TV, listen to music ... but once a sore starts to heal,
 I can start living again.
 Have you had a pressure mapping recently?


 Nan

 On Saturday, November 1, 2014 10:35 PM, Gmail
 bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com wrote:


 I try to recline once an hour ... if I remember. I love to paint,
 and to put my brush down to recline takes the away the flow. And
 when I'm reading I would need to recline every chapter.
 I'm only up 7-8 hours and up one day then in 2-3 days for
 prevention. November 7th I have an appointment to see a wound
 Doctor because I have a very small area stage 1 or less. I'm using
 DuoDerm extra thin.
 But to tell you the truth, I'm sick and tired of needing to deal
 with all this shit. Bobbie

 Smile Everyday

 On Nov 1, 2014, at 9:00 PM, greg g...@eskimo.com wrote:

 How
 often do you recline your chair?
 I try to do it at leased every hour. I also am moving around a
 bit, bending

 forward a bit to read, etc.
 I doubt when I lean forward or sideways a bit, it is enough to
 move the pressure on my butt.
 After my bad pressure sore, I try to recline more often, but when
 I get into a good book, or am playing cribbage online on my
 Kindle, I can forget. I often have gone many hours without
 reclining.
 Greg