Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Jim Lubin]

It was late when I was writing that. Staying in bed has nothing to do with
my wheelchair not working. I assume it still working.

Three years ago I had a pressure sore on my butt. I stayed in bed while it
healed but got in the wheelchair once a month to go to the wound clinic.
The doctor at the wound clinic said I cannot stay in my wheelchair as long
as I had been, about 15hrs/day. That would mean I either have the nurse
transfer me in the morning then my mom (the only person with me during the
day) transfer me back to bed during the day. My mom is older now and it has
gotten difficult for her to transfer me by herself. It just became more
practical to stay in bed.
​

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Gmail]

I too love to exercise. I used to do one hour seated aerobics to a video tape 
at least 3-5 days a week. 15 minutes warm-up 30 aerobic then 15 cold down.
Had to quite because of arthritis in my back.

No I learned to meditate and how to teach meditation.
I meditate everyday for 30+ minutes.

Both the above combat depression.

Bobbie

Smile Everyday

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 3:57 AM, RONALD L PRACHT  wrote:
> 
> Ive had some setbacks these past few years. My appendix burst which set into 
> motion a set of events that I would have never expected, then my dad got 
> meningitis and hurt his back . I had to teach my mother to come in and help 
> out .My Rio Dragonfly handcycle never let me down though, every evening this 
> summer I was able to put on my ipod, connect my handcycle and ride my stress 
> away. I got to about 250 miles this summer then my left elbow got a severe 
> case of bursitis. I iced and used a compression sleeve which got me a few 
> more months but I had to quit just over a week ago for fear of doing 
> permanent damage to the elbow. I love exercise and the high you get after. it 
> also helps with depression and dealing with challenges
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:43 AM, Gail Holmes  wrote:
> 
> 
> Is the broken chair the only factor that's keeping you in bed?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Jim Lubin  wrote:
> > 
> > I thinking it's because, being paralyzed from the neck down and dependent 
> > on a ventilator to breathe, I always have someone around me to feed me, 
> > brush my teeth, wash my cloths, etc. Just been fortunate ​my bowel routine. 
> > I don't own a van so use a service anytime I have gone anywhere. Chair 
> > broke down at home but got transferred back to bed. 
> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Jim Lubin]

I thinking it's because, being paralyzed from the neck down and dependent
on a ventilator to breathe, I always have someone around me to feed me,
brush my teeth, wash my cloths, etc. Just been fortunate ​my bowel routine.
I don't own a van so use a service anytime I have gone anywhere. Chair
broke down at home but got transferred back to bed.

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Gail Holmes]

Is the broken chair the only factor that's keeping you in bed?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Jim Lubin  wrote:
> 
> I thinking it's because, being paralyzed from the neck down and dependent on 
> a ventilator to breathe, I always have someone around me to feed me, brush my 
> teeth, wash my cloths, etc. Just been fortunate ​my bowel routine. I don't 
> own a van so use a service anytime I have gone anywhere. Chair broke down at 
> home but got transferred back to bed. 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Gail Holmes]

Michelle and Nancy, I ask you to please reconsider and rescind your request to 
be taken off this List.

Michelle, Ron isn't all gloom and doom.

I believe this is the same Ron that was very helpful and instructive a year or 
so ago when I asked about hand-cycles.

He generously went out of his way to give specific instructions on the 
Dragonfly and the gloves  and personal experiences with his bike that would 
have been invaluable had my friend actually had enough function to ride it. 

( We've recently gone to plan B with a different hand-cycle and it might work 
out.) 

Ron, like Nancy and so many others here on this List have unwittingly helped me 
as a caregiver to one quad and a friend to an increasing number of people with 
SCI's. 

I've learned much from their personal experiences on topics like travel, 
adaptive equipment, technology, medications, procedures, legislation and 
advocacy and the list goes on. 

Pun not intended.

I'm continually sharing with those I can what I've learned here. 

Michelle i'm sure that you, in time, would have something to add or take away 
from this Group. 

Yes, I have to admit that I too was a bit rattled by the tone of the poem. 

I've regrouped now and am more emboldened to do my part to effect change in my 
realm, no matter how insufficient it may be. 

By the way, are you still riding Ron? 




Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 5:02 PM, Michelle Harkness <hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> How can I be removed from this email list?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 PM, nichole rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11
>>  
>> I’m blessed because I can see all of those being very possible.
>>  
>> add
>> got stuck outside in your chair and no one to help
>> had to call someone in the middle of the night to get you on a shower chair 
>> because you had diarrhea
>> sat at home because van door is broken J
>>  
>> Nicki
>>  
>> From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] 
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
>> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>  
>> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
>>  
>> Have you ever
>> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
>> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
>> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
>> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
>> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
>> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
>> exit.church, theater, class, work.
>> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
>> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
>> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
>> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
>> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
>> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
>> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
>> 14. Wrecked your van.
>> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>>  
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>> 
>> I do.  Bobbie
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually 
>> do that? I do. Often.
>> 
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>>  
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>> 
>> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>>  
>> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
>> Bobbie 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>> 
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>>  
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[RONALD L PRACHT]

Ive had some setbacks these past few years. My appendix burst which set into 
motion a set of events that I would have never expected, then my dad got 
meningitis and hurt his back . I had to teach my mother to come in and help out 
.My Rio Dragonfly handcycle never let me down though, every evening this summer 
I was able to put on my ipod, connect my handcycle and ride my stress away. I 
got to about 250 miles this summer then my left elbow got a severe case of 
bursitis. I iced and used a compression sleeve which got me a few more months 
but I had to quit just over a week ago for fear of doing permanent damage to 
the elbow. I love exercise and the high you get after. it also helps with 
depression and dealing with challenges


 On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:43 AM, Gail Holmes  
wrote:
   

 Is the broken chair the only factor that's keeping you in bed?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Jim Lubin  wrote:
> 
> I thinking it's because, being paralyzed from the neck down and dependent on 
> a ventilator to breathe, I always have someone around me to feed me, brush my 
> teeth, wash my cloths, etc. Just been fortunate ​my bowel routine. I don't 
> own a van so use a service anytime I have gone anywhere. Chair broke down at 
> home but got transferred back to bed. 


  

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[jume9999]

Sorry Ron about your appendix etc. How did you know that it burst? Did you have 
surgery? 

Meredith 


- Original Message -

From: "RONALD L PRACHT" <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net> 
To: "quad-list" <quad-list@eskimo.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:57:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem 

Ive had some setbacks these past few years. My appendix burst which set into 
motion a set of events that I would have never expected, then my dad got 
meningitis and hurt his back . I had to teach my mother to come in and help out 
.My Rio Dragonfly handcycle never let me down though, every evening this summer 
I was able to put on my ipod, connect my handcycle and ride my stress away. I 
got to about 250 miles this summer then my left elbow got a severe case of 
bursitis. I iced and used a compression sleeve which got me a few more months 
but I had to quit just over a week ago for fear of doing permanent damage to 
the elbow. I love exercise and the high you get after. it also helps with 
depression and dealing with challenges 



On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:43 AM, Gail Holmes <fgdhol...@cox.net> wrote: 


Is the broken chair the only factor that's keeping you in bed? 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Jim Lubin < jlu...@eskimo.com > wrote: 
> 
> I thinking it's because, being paralyzed from the neck down and dependent on 
> a ventilator to breathe, I always have someone around me to feed me, brush my 
> teeth, wash my cloths, etc. Just been fortunate ​my bowel routine. I don't 
> own a van so use a service anytime I have gone anywhere. Chair broke down at 
> home but got transferred back to bed. 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[jume9999]

The first 4 for sure. 

- Original Message -

From: "Larry Willis" <lwillis82...@gmail.com> 
To: "quad-list" <quad-list@eskimo.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:22:35 PM 
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem 

More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute. 

Have you ever 
1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual. 
2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle. 
3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry. 
4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix. 
5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down. 
6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
exit.church, theater, class, work. 
7. Fallen from your chair while home alone. 
8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough. 
9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver. 
10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger. 
11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement. 
12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up. 
13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living. 
14. Wrecked your van. 
15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help. 
Larry Willis 
Retired and proud of it 


Begin forwarded message: 




From: Gmail < bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com > 
Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT 
To: Larry Willis < lwillis82...@gmail.com > 
Cc: " quad-list@eskimo.com " < quad-list@eskimo.com > 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem 






I do. Bobbie 

Smile Everyday 

On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis < lwillis82...@gmail.com > wrote: 




The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually do 
that? I do. Often. 

Larry Willis 
Retired and proud of it 


Begin forwarded message: 




From: Gmail < bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com > 
Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT 
To: Larry Willis < lwillis82...@gmail.com > 
Cc: " quad-list@eskimo.com " < quad-list@eskimo.com > 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem 






Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by. 

It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
Bobbie 



On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis < lwillis82...@gmail.com > wrote: 




Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly. 

Larry Willis 
Retired and proud of it 


Begin forwarded message: 




Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com 
From: RONALD L PRACHT < r.pra...@sbcglobal.net > 
Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT 
To: Quad-list Post < quad-list@eskimo.com > 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem 
Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT < r.pra...@sbcglobal.net > 






Quad Life 

Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead. 

As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 

People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved. 

Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so 
it seems. 

I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the hell 
that quad life demands. 

Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 

I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame? 

Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have no 
chance? 

As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
nevertheless. 





Ron 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Larry Willis]

Hang in there Ron. I have had a big series of setbacks this last year as well. 
However, I do apologize if I offended any of my peeps on here. I have been on 
the list since 2002 (I think) and it has been a great place to share, help, 
advise, and vent. I encourage everyone to join inwe quads are a pretty 
exclusive group. It's impossible to tell an able person what dysreflexia feels 
like, but we know all too well. We gotta support each other, and for most of us 
that means mental and spiritual support as well. God bless each of you reading 
this. Quad life is hard beyond hard, and we need all the love and support we 
can get.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: October 14, 2015 at 3:57:34 AM EDT
> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> 
> Ive had some setbacks these past few years. My appendix burst which set into 
> motion a set of events that I would have never expected, then my dad got 
> meningitis and hurt his back . I had to teach my mother to come in and help 
> out .My Rio Dragonfly handcycle never let me down though, every evening this 
> summer I was able to put on my ipod, connect my handcycle and ride my stress 
> away. I got to about 250 miles this summer then my left elbow got a severe 
> case of bursitis. I iced and used a compression sleeve which got me a few 
> more months but I had to quit just over a week ago for fear of doing 
> permanent damage to the elbow. I love exercise and the high you get after. it 
> also helps with depression and dealing with challenges
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 2:43 AM, Gail Holmes <fgdhol...@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Is the broken chair the only factor that's keeping you in bed?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Oct 14, 2015, at 1:34 AM, Jim Lubin <jlu...@eskimo.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I thinking it's because, being paralyzed from the neck down and dependent 
> > on a ventilator to breathe, I always have someone around me to feed me, 
> > brush my teeth, wash my cloths, etc. Just been fortunate ​my bowel routine. 
> > I don't own a van so use a service anytime I have gone anywhere. Chair 
> > broke down at home but got transferred back to bed. 
> 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[wheelchair]

Jim is the issue with the chair base, or the adaptive equipment that were  
added?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 10/14/2015 1:35:01 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jlu...@eskimo.com writes:

I thinking it's because, being paralyzed from the neck down and  dependent 
on a ventilator to breathe, I always have someone around me to feed  me, 
brush my teeth, wash my cloths, etc. Just been fortunate ​my bowel  routine. I 
don't own a van so use a service anytime I have gone anywhere.  Chair broke 
down at home but got transferred back to  bed. 

[QUAD-L] Quick poem

[RONALD L PRACHT]

 Quad Life 
Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so 
it seems.
I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the hell 
that quad life demands.
Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 
I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have no 
chance?
As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human nevertheless.




Ron 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Larry Willis]

Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> 
> Quad Life
> 
> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
> 
> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
> 
> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
> 
> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so 
> it seems.
> 
> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the hell 
> that quad life demands.
> 
> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 
> 
> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
> 
> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have no 
> chance?
> 
> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
> nevertheless.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[ntpgrnmtn]








> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>> 
>> Quad Life
>> 
>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>> 
>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
>> 
>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>> 
>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as 
>> so it seems.
>> 
>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
>> hell that quad life demands.
>> 
>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 
>> 
>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>> 
>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have 
>> no chance?
>> 
>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>> nevertheless.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[jume9999]

That was moving, sad and true 

Meredith 

- Original Message -

From: "RONALD L PRACHT" <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net> 
To: "quad-list" <quad-list@eskimo.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 12:06:14 AM 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem 

Quad Life 

Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead. 

As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 

People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved. 

Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so 
it seems. 

I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the hell 
that quad life demands. 

Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 

I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame? 

Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have no 
chance? 

As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
nevertheless. 





Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Gmail]

Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.

It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
Bobbie 



> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>> 
>> Quad Life
>> 
>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>> 
>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
>> 
>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>> 
>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as 
>> so it seems.
>> 
>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
>> hell that quad life demands.
>> 
>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 
>> 
>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>> 
>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have 
>> no chance?
>> 
>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>> nevertheless.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ron 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Larry Willis]

The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually do 
that? I do. Often.

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> 
> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
> 
> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
> Bobbie 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>> 
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>> 
>>> Quad Life
>>> 
>>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>>> 
>>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
>>> 
>>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>>> 
>>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as 
>>> so it seems.
>>> 
>>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
>>> hell that quad life demands.
>>> 
>>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just 
>>> because. 
>>> 
>>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>>> 
>>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have 
>>> no chance?
>>> 
>>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>>> nevertheless.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ron 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[lwillis821]

Alice, did I insult you? What on that list is not true? I am no Pollyanna. And 
I have been a quad for 44 years.

Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: ntpgrn...@aol.com
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:35:17 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> 
> Wow..
> Please remove me from the list.
> 
> 
> 
> Nancy 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
>> 
>> Have you ever
>> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
>> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
>> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
>> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
>> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
>> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
>> exit.church, theater, class, work.
>> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
>> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
>> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
>> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
>> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
>> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
>> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
>> 14. Wrecked your van.
>> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
>>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>> 
>>> I do.  Bobbie
>>> 
>>> Smile Everyday
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here 
>>>> actually do that? I do. Often.
>>>> 
>>>> Larry Willis
>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
>>>>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
>>>>> Bobbie 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Larry Willis
>>>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>>>>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>>>>>>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>>>>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Quad Life
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be 
>>>>>>> beared. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing 
>>>>>>> as so it seems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all 
>>>>>>> the hell that quad life demands.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just 
>>>>>>> because. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I 
>>>>>>> have no chance?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>>>>>>> nevertheless.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[ntpgrnmtn]

Wow..
Please remove me from the list.



Nancy 



> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
> 
> Have you ever
> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
> exit.church, theater, class, work.
> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
> 14. Wrecked your van.
> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>> 
>> I do.  Bobbie
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually 
>>> do that? I do. Often.
>>> 
>>> Larry Willis
>>> Retired and proud of it
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
>>>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>> 
>>>> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>>>> 
>>>> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
>>>> Bobbie 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry Willis
>>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>>>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>>>>>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>>>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quad Life
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be 
>>>>>> beared. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing 
>>>>>> as so it seems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
>>>>>> hell that quad life demands.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just 
>>>>>> because. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I 
>>>>>> have no chance?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>>>>>> nevertheless.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ron 

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Larry Willis]

More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.

Have you ever
1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
exit.church, theater, class, work.
7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
14. Wrecked your van.
15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


Begin forwarded message:

> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> 
> I do.  Bobbie
> 
> Smile Everyday
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually 
>> do that? I do. Often.
>> 
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
>>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>> 
>>> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>>> 
>>> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
>>> Bobbie 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>>>> 
>>>> Larry Willis
>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>>>>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Quad Life
>>>>> 
>>>>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be 
>>>>> beared. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing 
>>>>> as so it seems.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
>>>>> hell that quad life demands.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just 
>>>>> because. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I 
>>>>> have no chance?
>>>>> 
>>>>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>>>>> nevertheless.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Gmail]

I do.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually 
> do that? I do. Often.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>> 
>> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>> 
>> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
>> Bobbie 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>>> 
>>> Larry Willis
>>> Retired and proud of it
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>>>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>> 
>>>> Quad Life
>>>> 
>>>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>>>> 
>>>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
>>>> 
>>>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>>>> 
>>>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as 
>>>> so it seems.
>>>> 
>>>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
>>>> hell that quad life demands.
>>>> 
>>>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just 
>>>> because. 
>>>> 
>>>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>>>> 
>>>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have 
>>>> no chance?
>>>> 
>>>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>>>> nevertheless.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Michelle Harkness]

How can I be removed from this email list?

Thanks,
Michelle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 PM, nichole rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net> wrote:
> 
> Yes, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11
>  
> I’m blessed because I can see all of those being very possible.
>  
> add
> got stuck outside in your chair and no one to help
> had to call someone in the middle of the night to get you on a shower chair 
> because you had diarrhea
> sat at home because van door is broken J
>  
> Nicki
>  
> From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>  
> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
>  
> Have you ever
> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
> exit.church, theater, class, work.
> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
> 14. Wrecked your van.
> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>  
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> 
> I do.  Bobbie
> 
> Smile Everyday
> 
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually 
> do that? I do. Often.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>  
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> 
> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>  
> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
> Bobbie 
>  
> 
> 
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>  
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> 
> Quad Life
>  
> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>  
> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
>  
> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>  
> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so 
> it seems.
>  
> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the hell 
> that quad life demands.
>  
> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 
>  
> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>  
> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have no 
> chance?
>  
> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
> nevertheless.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Ron 

RE: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[nichole rohling]

Yes, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11

 

I’m blessed because I can see all of those being very possible.

 

add

got stuck outside in your chair and no one to help

had to call someone in the middle of the night to get you on a shower chair 
because you had diarrhea

sat at home because van door is broken J

 

Nicki

 

From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

 

More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.

 

Have you ever

1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.

2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.

3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.

4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.

5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.

6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
exit.church, theater, class, work.

7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.

8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.

9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.

10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.

11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.

12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.

13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.

14. Wrecked your van.

15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
Larry Willis

Retired and proud of it

 


Begin forwarded message:

From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

I do.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday


On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:

The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually do 
that? I do. Often.

Larry Willis

Retired and proud of it

 


Begin forwarded message:

From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.

 

It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 

Bobbie 

 


On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.

Larry Willis

Retired and proud of it

 


Begin forwarded message:

Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>

Quad Life 

 

Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.

 

As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 

 

People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.

 

Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so 
it seems.

 

I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the hell 
that quad life demands.

 

Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just because. 

 

I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?

 

Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have no 
chance?

 

As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human nevertheless.

 

 

 

 

 

Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Danny Hearn]

You can't be removed.this list is blood in blood out !  LOL... 
Seriously though you must write to quad-list requ...@eskimo.com to be removed.  
Dan H** 


 On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:02 PM, Michelle Harkness 
<hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com> wrote:
   

 How can I be removed from this email list?
Thanks,Michelle

Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 PM, nichole rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net> wrote:



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addgot stuck outside in your chair and no one to helphad to call someone in the 
middle of the night to get you on a shower chair because you had diarrheasat at 
home because van door is broken J  Nicki   From: Larry Willis 
[mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem  More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to 
contribute.  Have you ever1. Not eaten for a long time because you 
dread the bowel ritual.2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.3. Worn 
dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.4. Had chips for a meal 
because there was nothing else that you could fix.5. Sat for hours after your 
chair/van broke down.6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no 
way to exit.church, theater, class, work.7. Fallen from your chair while 
home alone.8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.9. Been cursed, 
belittled by a caregiver.10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.11. 
Gone over a week without a bowel movement.12. Prayed to God that you won't wake 
up.13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.14. Wrecked your 
van.15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
Larry WillisRetired and proud of it  
Begin forwarded message:
From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

I do.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday
On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually do 
that? I do. Often.

Larry WillisRetired and proud of it  
Begin forwarded message:
From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.  It's 
quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. Bobbie   
On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.

Larry WillisRetired and proud of it  
Begin forwarded message:
Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>

Quad Life   Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.  As 
morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared.   
People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.  Life took a 
young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so it seems.  I 
try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the hell 
that quad life demands.  Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit 
just beca

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[RONALD L PRACHT]

A simple poem gets people to quit the list? I would expect more from people 
that have been through as much life experience.
Ron 


 On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:08 PM, Danny Hearn <ddh...@sbcglobal.net> 
wrote:
   

 You can't be removed.this list is blood in blood out !  LOL... 
Seriously though you must write to quad-list requ...@eskimo.com to be removed.  
Dan H** 


 On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:02 PM, Michelle Harkness 
<hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com> wrote:
   

 How can I be removed from this email list?
Thanks,Michelle

Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 PM, nichole rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net> wrote:



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9, 10, 11  I’m blessed because I can see all of those being very possible.  
addgot stuck outside in your chair and no one to helphad to call someone in the 
middle of the night to get you on a shower chair because you had diarrheasat at 
home because van door is broken J  Nicki   From: Larry Willis 
[mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem  More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to 
contribute.  Have you ever1. Not eaten for a long time because you 
dread the bowel ritual.2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.3. Worn 
dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.4. Had chips for a meal 
because there was nothing else that you could fix.5. Sat for hours after your 
chair/van broke down.6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no 
way to exit.church, theater, class, work.7. Fallen from your chair while 
home alone.8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.9. Been cursed, 
belittled by a caregiver.10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.11. 
Gone over a week without a bowel movement.12. Prayed to God that you won't wake 
up.13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.14. Wrecked your 
van.15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
Larry WillisRetired and proud of it  
Begin forwarded message:
From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

I do.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday
On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually do 
that? I do. Often.

Larry WillisRetired and proud of it  
Begin forwarded message:
From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.  It's 
quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. Bobbie   
On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.

Larry WillisRetired and proud of it  
Begin forwarded message:
Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>

Quad Life   Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.  As 
morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared.   
People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.  Life took a 
young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as so it seems.

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Gmail]

16. Not being able to go to family holiday gatherings because the home it's in 
is not accessible.

Smile Everyday

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:22 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
> 
> Have you ever
> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
> exit.church, theater, class, work.
> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
> 14. Wrecked your van.
> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>> 
>> I do.  Bobbie
>> 
>> Smile Everyday
>> 
>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually 
>>> do that? I do. Often.
>>> 
>>> Larry Willis
>>> Retired and proud of it
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
>>>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>> 
>>>> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>>>> 
>>>> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
>>>> Bobbie 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Larry Willis
>>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>>>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>>>>>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>>>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quad Life
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be 
>>>>>> beared. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing 
>>>>>> as so it seems.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
>>>>>> hell that quad life demands.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just 
>>>>>> because. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I 
>>>>>> have no chance?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>>>>>> nevertheless.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ron 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Michelle Harkness]

I just joined the list maybe a month ago. I have dark days, but not that dark. 
I wasn't looking for something like this I guess. I understand life happens, 
but I'm a positive person who focuses on the positive, even if I can't help 
myself with basic bodily functions.  Everyone has struggles, it's called life. 
Some have more then others and I get that. I don't want my email blown up with 
crap like this. We still have choices. We can choose to be a victim or choose 
to direct our own lives. You choose how you respond to situations.  If anyone 
wants to have an issue with me wanting to leave because of this, that's sad, 
because you don't need to waste your time over me not agreeing with you. I just 
wanted an out and you can all go on your merry way. I haven't even had time to 
respond to anything other then this, so it's not like you'll miss me.  Thanks 
for the out Dan - I'll make sure and deposit the blood...

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Danny Hearn <ddh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> You can't be removed.this list is blood in blood out !  LOL... 
> Seriously though you must write to quad-list requ...@eskimo.com to be 
> removed.  Dan H**
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:02 PM, Michelle Harkness 
> <hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> How can I be removed from this email list?
> 
> Thanks,
> Michelle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 PM, nichole rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Yes, 5, 8, 9, 10, 11
>  
> I’m blessed because I can see all of those being very possible.
>  
> add
> got stuck outside in your chair and no one to help
> had to call someone in the middle of the night to get you on a shower chair 
> because you had diarrhea
> sat at home because van door is broken J
>  
> Nicki
>  
> From: Larry Willis [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
> To: quad-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>  
> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
>  
> Have you ever
> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
> exit.church, theater, class, work.
> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
> 14. Wrecked your van.
> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>  
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> I do.  Bobbie
> 
> Smile Everyday
> 
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here actually 
> do that? I do. Often.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>  
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>  
> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
> Bobbie 
>  
> 
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
> 
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>  
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> Quad Life
>  
> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>  
> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared. 
>  
> People say to look above, but all I g

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Jim Lubin]

The 15 situations would definitely suck big time. I've been a quad 26 years
and fortunately have never experienced any of those.

On my list:

1. ventilator stopped working while in van on the road (happened twice)
2. ventilator disconnecting in van while on freeway

I've been in bed 24/7 for a 19 months now. Does it suck? No. I have been
sleep better than when I was getting out of bed everyday. why? because I
can wake-up when I am rested not when I need to so the nurse can transfer
me to my chair before leaving. It also use to take an hour to put cloths on
and transfer to the wheelchair, about 30 minutes to transfer back to bed at
night. I now have that time to be on the computer or just watch tv.

Use to just sit at the computer all day, watch tv on my computer. Now I'm
in bed, use my computer and watch tv on a 42" tv. Life hasn't changed much,
just have more time to do what I enjoy.

On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
>
> Have you ever
> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to
> exit.church, theater, class, work.
> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
> 14. Wrecked your van.
> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> *Date:* October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
>
> *To:* Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> *Subject:* *Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem*
>
> I do.  Bobbie
>
> Smile Everyday
>
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here
> actually do that? I do. Often.
>
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
> *Date:* October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
> *To:* Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> *Subject:* *Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem*
>
> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>
> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close.
> Bobbie
>
>
>
> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>
> Larry Willis
> Retired and proud of it
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *Resent-From:* quad-list@eskimo.com
> *From:* RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
> *Date:* October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
> *To:* Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> *Subject:* *[QUAD-L] Quick poem*
> *Reply-To:* RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Quad Life
>
> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>
> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be beared.
>
> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>
> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as
> so it seems.
>
> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the
> hell that quad life demands.
>
> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just
> because.
>
> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>
> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have
> no chance?
>
> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human
> nevertheless.
>
>
>
>
>
> Ron
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[RONALD L PRACHT]

There is much positive here and if you read through the poem the end leaves 
hope. Ive done some amazing things as a quad, but right now Ive hit a buzzsaw. 
Nothing is all positive nor negative. The poem is how I felt at that moment. If 
you have no negative expressed than you have a bias list. I was thinking of 
making a follow up poem when things get better. Stick around girl!
Ron 


 On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 6:37 PM, Michelle Harkness 
<hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com> wrote:
   

 I just joined the list maybe a month ago. I have dark days, but not that dark. 
I wasn't looking for something like this I guess. I understand life happens, 
but I'm a positive person who focuses on the positive, even if I can't help 
myself with basic bodily functions.  Everyone has struggles, it's called life. 
Some have more then others and I get that. I don't want my email blown up with 
crap like this. We still have choices. We can choose to be a victim or choose 
to direct our own lives. You choose how you respond to situations.  If anyone 
wants to have an issue with me wanting to leave because of this, that's sad, 
because you don't need to waste your time over me not agreeing with you. I just 
wanted an out and you can all go on your merry way. I haven't even had time to 
respond to anything other then this, so it's not like you'll miss me.  Thanks 
for the out Dan - I'll make sure and deposit the blood...

Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Danny Hearn <ddh...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:


You can't be removed.this list is blood in blood out !  LOL... 
Seriously though you must write to quad-list requ...@eskimo.com to be removed.  
Dan H** 


 On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 5:02 PM, Michelle Harkness 
<hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com> wrote:
   

 How can I be removed from this email list?
Thanks,Michelle

Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 PM, nichole rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net> wrote:



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addgot stuck outside in your chair and no one to helphad to call someone in the 
middle of the night to get you on a shower chair because you had diarrheasat at 
home because van door is broken J  Nicki   From: Larry Willis 
[mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem  More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to 
contribute.  Have you ever1. Not eaten for a long time because you 
dread the bowel ritual.2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.3. Worn 
dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.4. Had chips for a meal 
because there was nothing else that you could fix.5. Sat for hours after your 
chair/van broke down.6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no 
way to exit.church, theater, class, work.7. Fallen from your chair while 
home alone.8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.9. Been cursed, 
belittled by a caregiver.10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.11. 
Gone over a week without a bowel movement.12. Prayed to God that you won't wake 
up.13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.14. Wrecked your 
van.15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
Larry WillisRetired and proud of it  
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From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

I do.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday
On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:

Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Larry Willis]

Jim, how in the world have you gone so long without experiencing any of these? 
Amazing!

Larry Willis
Retired and proud of it


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> From: Jim Lubin <jlu...@eskimo.com>
> Date: October 13, 2015 at 8:51:37 PM EDT
> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
> 
> The 15 situations would definitely suck big time. I've been a quad 26 years 
> and fortunately have never experienced any of those. 
> 
> On my list:
> 
> 1. ventilator stopped working while in van on the road (happened twice)
> 2. ventilator disconnecting in van while on freeway
> 
> I've been in bed 24/7 for a 19 months now. Does it suck? No. I have been 
> sleep better than when I was getting out of bed everyday. why? because I can 
> wake-up when I am rested not when I need to so the nurse can transfer me to 
> my chair before leaving. It also use to take an hour to put cloths on and 
> transfer to the wheelchair, about 30 minutes to transfer back to bed at 
> night. I now have that time to be on the computer or just watch tv. 
> 
> Use to just sit at the computer all day, watch tv on my computer. Now I'm in 
> bed, use my computer and watch tv on a 42" tv. Life hasn't changed much, just 
> have more time to do what I enjoy.
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.
>> 
>> Have you ever
>> 1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
>> 2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
>> 3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
>> 4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could fix.
>> 5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
>> 6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to 
>> exit.church, theater, class, work.
>> 7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
>> 8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
>> 9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
>> 10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
>> 11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
>> 12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
>> 13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
>> 14. Wrecked your van.
>> 15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of help.
>> Larry Willis
>> Retired and proud of it
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
>>> 
>>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>> 
>>> I do.  Bobbie
>>> 
>>> Smile Everyday
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here 
>>>> actually do that? I do. Often.
>>>> 
>>>> Larry Willis
>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Gmail <bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
>>>>> To: Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com>
>>>>> Cc: "quad-list@eskimo.com" <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>>> 
>>>>> Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass by.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty fucking close. 
>>>>> Bobbie 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <lwillis82...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Larry Willis
>>>>>> Retired and proud of it
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Resent-From: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>>>>>> From: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> Date: October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
>>>>>>> To: Quad-list Post <quad-list@eskimo.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
>>>>>>> Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT <r.pra...@sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Quad Life
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Every night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be 
>>>>>>> beared. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> People say to look above, but all I get is abused and shoved.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Life took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing 
>>>>>>> as so it seems.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I try as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all 
>>>>>>> the hell that quad life demands.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Everyones forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just 
>>>>>>> because. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to blame?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Was I just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I 
>>>>>>> have no chance?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As the years go by it means less and less because I am still human 
>>>>>>> nevertheless.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ron 
> 

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[wheelchair]

I personally would hate to see you leave because of a single post.   Life 
varies among Quads.  Some work 8 hours a day and others lay in bed for  8 
hours a day.  And then there are so many in between those extremes.   Michelle, 
I wish we knew more about YOU and what YOU are doing.
I hope you will reconsider as this group changes several times during the  
year.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 10/13/2015 5:02:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
hotwheelsmiche...@gmail.com writes:

How can I be removed from this email list?


Thanks,
Michelle

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 13, 2015, at 3:59 PM, nichole rohling <_zoocrew1@windstream.net_ 
(mailto:zoocr...@windstream.net) >  wrote:



   
 
Yes,  5, 8, 9, 10, 11 
I’m  blessed because I can see all of those being very  possible. 
add 
got  stuck outside in your chair and no one to help 
had  to call someone in the middle of the night to get you on a shower 
chair  because you had diarrhea 
sat  at home because van door is broken J 
Nicki 
 
 
From: Larry Willis  [mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com]  
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2015 2:23 PM
To: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Subject:  Fwd: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

 
More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to  contribute.
 

 
Have you ever
 
1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel  ritual.
 
2. Not brushed your teeth because of the  hassle.
 
3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the  laundry.
 
4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else  that you could fix.
 
5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke  down.
 
6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no  way to 
exit.church, theater, class, work.
 
7. Fallen from your chair while home  alone.
 
8. Become choked or congested and unable to  cough.
 
9. Been cursed, belittled by a  caregiver.
 
10. Had a public confrontation with a  stranger.
 
11. Gone over a week without a bowel  movement.
 
12. Prayed to God that you won't wake  up.
 
13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in  living.
 
14. Wrecked your van.
 
15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer  of help.
Larry Willis 
 
Retired and proud of it
 


 

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From: Gmail <_bobbiehumphreys7@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com) >
Date:  October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ (mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >
Cc:  "_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) " 
<_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) >
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem


 
 
I do.  Bobbie

Smile  Everyday
 

On Oct 13, 2015, at  1:28 PM, Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many  of us on here 
actually do that? I do. Often.

Larry  Willis 
 
Retired and proud of it
 


 

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From: Gmail  <_bobbiehumphreys7@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com) >
Date:  October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ (mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >
Cc:  "_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) " 
<_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) >
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem


 
 
Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and  decades pass by.
 

 
It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty  fucking close. 
 
Bobbie 
 

 

On Oct 13, 2015, at  6:56 AM, Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >  wrote:

 
 
Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly.  Exactly.

Larry Willis 
 
Retired and proud of it
 


 

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Resent-From:  _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
From:  RONALD L PRACHT <_r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ 
(mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) >
Date:  October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
To: Quad-list Post  <_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) >
Subject:  [QUAD-L] Quick poem
Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT  <_r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ 
(mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) >


 
 
 
Quad  Life 
 

 
Every  night when I go to bed, I pray to god to wake up  dead.
 

 
As  morning comes, I always get scared, because another day must be  
beared. 
 

 
People  say to look above, but all I get is abused and  shoved.
 

 
Life  took a young man with hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing  
as so it seems.
 

 
I try  as I may to still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the  
hell that quad life demands.
 

 
Everyones  forgotten who I was , and treat me like shit just  
because. 
 

 
I  started strong in this game, but when I think...who is to  blame?
 

 
Was I  just another victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I  
have no chance?
 

 
As the  years go by it means less and less because I am still human  
nevertheless.
 

 

 

 

 

 
Ron 














=

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[wheelchair]

Sex, sex and sex
Best Wishe
 
 
In a message dated 10/13/2015 2:23:29 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
lwillis82...@gmail.com writes:

More quad quickies to meditate. Feel free to contribute.


Have you ever
1. Not eaten for a long time because you dread the bowel ritual.
2. Not brushed your teeth because of the hassle.
3. Worn dirty clothes because no one would/could do the laundry.
4. Had chips for a meal because there was nothing else that you could  fix.
5. Sat for hours after your chair/van broke down.
6. Had a bowel/bladder accident in a public place with no way to  
exit.church, theater, class, work.
7. Fallen from your chair while home alone.
8. Become choked or congested and unable to cough.
9. Been cursed, belittled by a caregiver.
10. Had a public confrontation with a stranger.
11. Gone over a week without a bowel movement.
12. Prayed to God that you won't wake up.
13. Been so depressed you lose all interest in living.
14. Wrecked your van.
15. Been stuck at the bottom of the stairs with no offer of  help.
Larry Willis  
Retired and proud of it




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From: Gmail <_bobbiehumphreys7@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com) >
Date:  October 13, 2015 at 1:55:19 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ (mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >
Cc:  "_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) " 
<_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) >
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem





I do.  Bobbie

Smile Everyday

On Oct 13, 2015, at 1:28 PM, Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >  wrote:




The opening line of your poem is a grabber. How many of us on here  
actually do that? I do. Often.

Larry Willis  
Retired and proud of it




Begin forwarded message:



From: Gmail <_bobbiehumphreys7@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:bobbiehumphre...@gmail.com) >
Date:  October 13, 2015 at 12:21:47 PM EDT
To: Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ (mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >
Cc:  "_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) " 
<_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) >
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem





Wow, right on the mark. Especially as the years and decades pass  by.


It's quite indescribable, but you came pretty  fucking close. 
Bobbie 




On Oct 13, 2015, at 6:56 AM, Larry Willis <_lwillis82153@gmail.com_ 
(mailto:lwillis82...@gmail.com) >  wrote:




Wow, Ron, my feelings exactly. Exactly.

Larry Willis  
Retired and proud of it




Begin forwarded message:



Resent-From: _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
From:  RONALD L PRACHT <_r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ 
(mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) >
Date:  October 13, 2015 at 3:06:14 AM EDT
To: Quad-list Post  <_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) >
Subject:  [QUAD-L] Quick poem
Reply-To: RONALD L PRACHT  <_r.pracht@sbcglobal.net_ 
(mailto:r.pra...@sbcglobal.net) >





 
Quad Life 


Every night when I go  to bed, I pray to god to wake up dead.


As morning comes, I always  get scared, because another day must be beared. 


People say to look above,  but all I get is abused and shoved.


Life took a young man with  hopes and dreams, and reduced him to nothing as 
so it seems.


I try as I may to  still be a man, during the bowell routines and all the 
hell that  quad life demands.


Everyones forgotten  who I was , and treat me like shit just 
because. 


I started strong in  this game, but when I think...who is to blame?


Was I just another  victim of circumstance or from the beginning did I have 
no  chance?


As the years go by  it means less and less because I am still human 
nevertheless.










Ron 











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[QUAD-L] Quick poem

[RONALD L PRACHT]

I found my fate on a cold day in 98.
Now I have a choice to either move on or hate.
Its twice the fun now to find a mate.
But many people have died from 98 to now.
Those dont have a chance to see a star or a cow
So I guess Id call myself fortunate.
Lifes all what you make it rolling or not.
So ill keep my wheels crossed, tires filled, and eyes open.
In the end we are all equal, because life has no sequel


 Ronquick poem

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Quietstream25322]

 Been some good poems on here. By the way Ron how has 
your pain been ? mine has been pretty bad of late, some days not so bad, others 
awful..to bad amitriptilene or vicoden or something is not a CURE ALL 
...I find that if i get busy , like at my part time job or a game or 
somethingit seems the distraction helps to forget the pains for a bit.
 
Dan

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[Silas]

Good job Ron, 
Come to think I would really miss my cows. 

Silas 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  RONALD L 
  PRACHT 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:28 
  PM
  Subject: [QUAD-L] Quick poem
  
  I found my fate on a cold day in 98.
  Now I have a choice to either move on or hate.
  Its twice the fun now to find a mate.
  But many people have died from 98 to now.
  Those dont have a chance to see a star or a cow
  So I guess Id call myself fortunate.
  Lifes all what you make it rolling or not.
  So ill keep my wheels crossed, tires filled, and eyes open.
  In the end we are all equal, because life has no sequel
  
  
   
  Ronquick poem

Re: [QUAD-L] Quick poem

[David K. Kelmer]

Hi Ron,

Quick, but it says a lot!

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I found my fate on a cold day in 98.
Now I have a choice to either move on or hate.
Its twice the fun now to find a mate.
But many people have died from 98 to now.
Those dont have a chance to see a star or a cow
So I guess Id call myself fortunate.
Lifes all what you make it rolling or not.
So ill keep my wheels crossed, tires filled, and eyes open.
In the end we are all equal, because life has no sequel


 Ronquick poem

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[DAANOO]

Hi Ron,

That was short and to the point.Dana
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Hi Ron,

Quick, but it says a lot!

With Love,
CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 29 Years PostTexas, USA RONALD L PRACHT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I found my fate on a cold day in 98.
Now I have a choice to either move on or hate.
Its twice the fun now to find a mate.
But many people have died from 98 to now.
Those dont have a chance to see a star or a cow
So I guess Id call myself fortunate.
Lifes all what you make it rolling or not.
So ill keep my wheels crossed, tires filled, and eyes open.
In the end we are all equal, because life has no sequel


 Ronquick poem
---End Message---