Re: [QUAD-L] River
THat's my real, chosen name. River - you can't push it or stop it it flows on its own - that is the most important lesson one needs to know about life.I believe my stats are on the SCI list, not sure though.Peace,RiverOn Sep 6, 2005, at 5:00 PM, Lori Michaelson wrote: Hey River.. I want to apologize for still thinking you're male. Is that a sobriquet or your real name? I'm also unsure if your stats are anywhere like the SCI list put together by Shahidul ... a good way to learn about some folks at a glance. :-) Our views will clash most often with you being very liberal while I am conservative but that's true with everyone ... different strokes. Have a great day! Lori Michaelson C4/5 complete quad, 25 years post Tucson, AZ
[QUAD-L] River
Hey River.. I want to apologize for still thinking you're male. Is that a sobriquet or your real name? I'm also unsure if your stats are anywhere like the SCI list put together by Shahidul ... a good way to learn about some folks at a glance. :-) Our views will clash most often with you being very liberal while I am conservative but that's true with everyone ... different strokes. Have a great day! Lori Michaelson C4/5 complete quad, 25 years post Tucson, AZ
Re: [QUAD-L] ...river
Stacy, He specifically said I just don't know as his answer to the question. He did NOT say the he didn't think they were born that way. Don't let bias block your memory. Stuntman MessageGeorge Bush certainly seems to think that it is something that just either happens to a person or they choose it. He doesn't think a person is born that way. Stacy People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself - Original Message - From: Eric W Ruddmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'quad'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] ...river You gotta be kiddin...did someone tell you to be? Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] ...river I certainly didn't choose to be gay. -- It's not the fall that hurts. Home page http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/homeincyberspace/ Graphics portfolio http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/index.htm Domain space http://nw-in.com/index.html
Re: [QUAD-L] ...river
Well, I also have seen him on a few talk shows and him saying "I just don't know" one time is not going to make me believe him. I'm sure he said that after hearing crap about it. This is the last thing I have to say about any of it. Neither you or I are going to change anything by arguing about it. I will chime back to this list when we start supporting each other instead of arguing aboutan election. I just hope that there won'tany cuts from the bottom for those of us that need the help. Stacy "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: Stuntman To: Stacy Harim ; 'quad' ; Eric W Rudd Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 6:55 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] ..river Stacy,He specifically said "I just don't know" as his answer to the question.He did NOT say the he "didn't think they were born that way".Don't let bias block your memory.Stuntman MessageGeorge Bush certainly seems to think that it is something that just either happens to a person or they choose it. He doesn't think a person is born that way. Stacy "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: Eric W Ruddmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'quad'mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] ...river You gotta be kiddin...did someone tell you to be? Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] ..river I certainly didn't choose to be gay. -- It's not the fall that hurts.Home page http://tnthompson0.tripod.com/homeincyberspace/Graphics portfolio http://tnthompson1.tripod.com/index.htmDomain space http://nw-in.com/index.html
Re: [QUAD-L] ...river
I really don't think you have any right to tell me to hang in there, you've not been there. 15 yrs ? Would you have the balls to tell that to MLK ? And yes, it is the same thing, I certainly didn't choose to be gay. Who would choose to be hated, told their family doesn't matter, left out of their biological family, denied health care, denied housing, denied a job, denied parental rights for their biological children, on and on... River (don't patronize, placate, or pity me) DO SOMETHING TO PROMOTE TOLERANCE AND CHANGE. On Nov 4, 2004, at 5:42 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rivdon't get too jaded, honey!! I'm sick inside too, i thought, or hoped, we were a smarter society...i even thought the religious homophobics had gotten smarter, but we're just NOT...they have 'dumbed down' the church going, god-fearing, everything-fearing people...and there's a LOT of em!! Be yourself...in about 15 yrs there will be a lot more liberal-minded older people who will have more power...the youth didn't show up like they promised coz nobody wants to stand in line with old folks 4 hours... hang in there, bab..tony
RE: [QUAD-L] ...river
Title: Message You gotta be kiddin...did someone tell you to be? Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] ...river I certainly didn't choose to be gay.
RE: [QUAD-L] ...river
Title: Message Eric You're being obtuse the nature VS nurture debate is for an "Oprah" episode nice tits and round butt or big shoulders and muscular ass does it matter whose lookin' or why? don't pass judgment on something you don't know about or do you? -Cameron -Original Message-From: Eric W Rudd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:01 PMTo: 'quad'Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] ...river You gotta be kiddin...did someone tell you to be? Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] ...riverI certainly didn't choose to be gay.
Re: [QUAD-L] ...river
yes On Nov 4, 2004, at 6:00 PM, Eric W Rudd wrote: You gotta be kiddin...did someone tell you to be? Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] ...river I certainly didn't choose to be gay.
Re: [QUAD-L] ...river
Title: Message George Bush certainly seems to think that it is something that just either happens to a person or they choose it. He doesn't think a person is born that way. Stacy "People who hate you do not win unless you hate them. Then you destroy yourself" - Original Message - From: Eric W Rudd To: 'quad' Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] ..river You gotta be kiddin...did someone tell you to be? Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: River Wolfe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2004 4:53 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quadSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] ...riverI certainly didn't choose to be gay.
