Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-03 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
Keep up the fight

  From: Nichole Rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net>
 To: 'Jeffrey Gaede' <jsga...@yahoo.com>; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 8:42 AM
 Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery
   
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My DME is doing their best to steer me away from my 3rd Invacare. NOT GOING TO 
HAPPEN J .They came and picked up demo chairs last Wednesday and I had to make 
a list of why the other 2 chairs wouldn’t work. It was a page long………haven’t 
heard a word from them.Nicki  From: Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:26 PM
To: wheelch...@aol.com; g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery  It's just very frustrating 
because I mentioned while at a seating clinic a week ago that I needed my 
anti-tip bars raised and a new gooseneck for my sip and puff chair. The 
anti-tip bars were adjusted at the seating clinic. Without even making an 
appointment, someone from my chair tech company showed up yesterday and, while 
telling me he had the gooseneck listed on his paperwork to be ordered, he 
checked the date of the batteries, which seemed to be working fine, but they 
know my insurance will pay for new ones, checked my tires, which also seem 
fine, but they'll probably order new ones because my insurance will pay, and I 
don't know what else he did because I was taking a break from working just to 
deal with all this stuff.   I made the ultimate decision, but I was steered 
away from purchasing my third Invacare chair in a row. The chair they steered 
me towards? It turned out to have a major flaw and, instead of replacing it, I 
told them I didn't want that brand. Again, I let them steer me away from 
Invacare, and now I have a chair that's had its share of issues, still does, 
doesn't go as far as it should on a full charge, which I complained about early 
on, but they don't look at the things you are mentioning, Wheelchair. Instead, 
it's replace batteries, try different batteries if the replacements don't make 
a difference, and do everything – it seems – but what it really takes to make 
it work properly. The biggest issue, in my opinion, is they don't "live" in a 
wheelchair. I realize they have to make money but this is just kind of messed 
up… Jeff   From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>
To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery  Without a certified tech, 
your chair is just a fancy, expensive, flashlight.  Does not sound like your 
batteries are the issue, but rather are suffering the effects of a component 
failure.  For example if the magnetic brakes have internal issues, each 
manufacturer requires that the motor assembly, which includes the magnetic 
brakes, motor and gearbox be replaced. Also when replacing a motor assembly, 
both motors are replaced for even movement of the chair.  There is a lot more 
to it and I hope you find a certified tech.Best Wishes In a message dated 
8/2/2017 11:06:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, g...@eskimo.com writes:
I'd like it too.My chair often feels like the auto breaks are on, or 
grabbing.Fully charged, I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk 
forward.The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on.Greg> 
Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate> causes why a 
wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues> aren't typically looked at 
by wheelchair companies?>  >  > Jeff
  

   

RE: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-03 Thread Nichole Rohling
Jeffrey,

 

My DME is doing their best to steer me away from my 3rd Invacare. NOT GOING TO 
HAPPEN J .

They came and picked up demo chairs last Wednesday and I had to make a list of 
why the other 2 chairs wouldn’t work. It was a page long………haven’t heard a word 
from them.

Nicki

 

From: Jeffrey Gaede [mailto:jsga...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 8:26 PM
To: wheelch...@aol.com; g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

 

It's just very frustrating because I mentioned while at a seating clinic a week 
ago that I needed my anti-tip bars raised and a new gooseneck for my sip and 
puff chair. The anti-tip bars were adjusted at the seating clinic. Without even 
making an appointment, someone from my chair tech company showed up yesterday 
and, while telling me he had the gooseneck listed on his paperwork to be 
ordered, he checked the date of the batteries, which seemed to be working fine, 
but they know my insurance will pay for new ones, checked my tires, which also 
seem fine, but they'll probably order new ones because my insurance will pay, 
and I don't know what else he did because I was taking a break from working 
just to deal with all this stuff. 

 

I made the ultimate decision, but I was steered away from purchasing my third 
Invacare chair in a row. The chair they steered me towards? It turned out to 
have a major flaw and, instead of replacing it, I told them I didn't want that 
brand. Again, I let them steer me away from Invacare, and now I have a chair 
that's had its share of issues, still does, doesn't go as far as it should on a 
full charge, which I complained about early on, but they don't look at the 
things you are mentioning, Wheelchair. Instead, it's replace batteries, try 
different batteries if the replacements don't make a difference, and do 
everything – it seems – but what it really takes to make it work properly. The 
biggest issue, in my opinion, is they don't "live" in a wheelchair. I realize 
they have to make money but this is just kind of messed up… Jeff 

 

  _  

From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>
To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

 

Without a certified tech, your chair is just a fancy, expensive, flashlight.  
Does not sound like your batteries are the issue, but rather are suffering the 
effects of a component failure.  For example if the magnetic brakes have 
internal issues, each manufacturer requires that the motor assembly, which 
includes the magnetic brakes, motor and gearbox be replaced. Also when 
replacing a motor assembly, both motors are replaced for even movement of the 
chair.  There is a lot more to it and I hope you find a certified tech.

Best Wishes

 

In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:06:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I'd like it too.

My chair often feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.

Fully charged, I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk forward.

The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on.

Greg

> Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate

> causes why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues

> aren't typically looked at by wheelchair companies?

> 

> 

> Jeff

 



Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-03 Thread wheelchair
By your comments, I'm guessing that you have a complex rehab chair. To  
perform the necessary test to evaluate your chair's issues... you have to be  
removed and that in itself is time consuming and complex. Where do you sit n  
rest while your chair is being evaluated? Can you be without your chair for 
24  hours? Also reading what you posted, tells me that you let others talk 
you into  decisions you should be making towards YOUR future. For me being 
here and You  being there there is not much I can offer, except...
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 8:29:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jsga...@yahoo.com writes:

 
It's just very frustrating because I  mentioned while at a seating clinic a 
week ago that I needed my anti-tip bars  raised and a new gooseneck for my 
sip and puff chair. The anti-tip bars were  adjusted at the seating clinic. 
Without even making an appointment, someone  from my chair tech company 
showed up yesterday and, while telling me he had  the gooseneck listed on his 
paperwork to be ordered, he checked the date of  the batteries, which seemed 
to be working fine, but they know my insurance  will pay for new ones, 
checked my tires, which also seem fine, but they'll  probably order new ones 
because my insurance will pay, and I don't know what  else he did because I was 
taking a break from working just to deal with all  this stuff. 


I made the ultimate  decision, but I was steered away from purchasing my 
third Invacare chair in a  row. The chair they steered me towards? It turned 
out to have a major flaw  and, instead of replacing it, I told them I didn't 
want that brand. Again, I  let them steer me away from Invacare, and now I 
have a chair that's had its  share of issues, still does, doesn't go as far 
as it should on a full charge,  which I complained about early on, but they 
don't look at the things you are  mentioning, Wheelchair. Instead, it's 
replace batteries, try different  batteries if the replacements don't make a 
difference, and do everything – it  seems – but what it really takes to make it 
work properly. The biggest issue,  in my opinion, is they don't "live" in a 
wheelchair. I realize they have to  make money but this is just kind of 
messed up… Jeff 




 
 
  

 From: "wheelch...@aol.com"  <wheelch...@aol.com>
To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com  
Sent: Wednesday, August 2,  2017 4:01 PM
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery



 
Without a certified tech, your  chair is just a fancy, expensive, 
flashlight.  Does not sound like your  batteries are the issue, but rather are 
suffering the effects of a component  failure.  For example if the magnetic 
brakes 
have internal issues, each  manufacturer requires that the motor assembly, 
which includes the magnetic  brakes, motor and gearbox be replaced. Also 
when replacing a motor assembly,  both motors are replaced for even movement of 
the chair.  There is a lot  more to it and I hope you find a certified tech.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:06:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:
 
I'd like it too.
My chair often feels like the auto breaks  are on, or grabbing.
Fully charged, I'll be driving and the  chair stops dead, I jurk forward.
The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries.  No idea whats going on.
Greg


> Would anyone still have  that post regarding all the alternate
> causes why a wheelchair  battery gets drained, yet these issues
> aren't typically looked  at by wheelchair companies?
>
>
>  Jeff















Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
It's just very frustrating because I mentioned while at a seating clinic a week 
ago that I needed my anti-tip bars raised and a new gooseneck for my sip and 
puff chair. The anti-tip bars were adjusted at the seating clinic. Without even 
making an appointment, someone from my chair tech company showed up yesterday 
and, while telling me he had the gooseneck listed on his paperwork to be 
ordered, he checked the date of the batteries, which seemed to be working fine, 
but they know my insurance will pay for new ones, checked my tires, which also 
seem fine, but they'll probably order new ones because my insurance will pay, 
and I don't know what else he did because I was taking a break from working 
just to deal with all this stuff. 
I made the ultimate decision, but I was steered away from purchasing my third 
Invacare chair in a row. The chair they steered me towards? It turned out to 
have a major flaw and, instead of replacing it, I told them I didn't want that 
brand. Again, I let them steer me away from Invacare, and now I have a chair 
that's had its share of issues, still does, doesn't go as far as it should on a 
full charge, which I complained about early on, but they don't look at the 
things you are mentioning, Wheelchair. Instead, it's replace batteries, try 
different batteries if the replacements don't make a difference, and do 
everything – it seems – but what it really takes to make it work properly. The 
biggest issue, in my opinion, is they don't "live" in a wheelchair. I realize 
they have to make money but this is just kind of messed up… Jeff 

  From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>
 To: g...@eskimo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 4:01 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery
   
Without a certified tech, your chair is just a fancy, expensive, flashlight.  
Does not sound like your batteries are the issue, but rather are suffering the 
effects of a component failure.  For example if the magnetic brakes have 
internal issues, each manufacturer requires that the motor assembly, which 
includes the magnetic brakes, motor and gearbox be replaced. Also when 
replacing a motor assembly, both motors are replaced for even movement of the 
chair.  There is a lot more to it and I hope you find a certified tech.Best 
Wishes In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:06:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
g...@eskimo.com writes:
 I'd like it too. My chair often feels like the auto breaks are on, or 
grabbing. Fully charged, I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk 
forward. The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on. Greg

 > Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate > causes why a 
 > wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues > aren't typically looked 
 > at by wheelchair companies? > > > Jeff


   

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
Thanks, Wheel.

  From: "wheelch...@aol.com" <wheelch...@aol.com>
 To: jsga...@yahoo.com; zoocr...@windstream.net; g...@eskimo.com; 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 3:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery
   
 Consider, you medical mobility electric chair, a very high liability item. For 
that reason Pride Suggested that you return to the medical provider and have 
them call Pride or Quantum Tech Service.  Yes, I know its frustrating. 
or you can email msm...@pridemobility.com   with the serial number and 
your provider and advise him of your issues and what you think could/might be 
wrong.  A dealer programmer can verify your theories. Mark, is a Manager in the 
Quantum Div  of Pride.Best Wishes In a message dated 8/2/2017 5:34:46 P.M. 
Central Daylight Time, jsga...@yahoo.com writes:
  I won't call these companies the names I would like to call these companies. 
That's why I was looking for that paragraph describing other issues that can 
drain batteries outside of what you'd normally expect. I wrote the Pride 
Corporation – maker of my chair – and was going to ask them about these other 
issues. Their response, without asking me anything, was that I needed to speak 
with the company that works on my chair… Jeff

  From: Nichole Rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net>
To: 'greg' <g...@eskimo.com>; 'Jeffrey Gaede' <jsga...@yahoo.com>; 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery
 
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{}#yiv6740519273Found two posts I made regarding batteries showing full but 
couldn’t hardly go out of my house…….would say charge batteries when going over 
a threshold or incline   I had the same problem last year beginning in March. 
The batteries were replaced 4 times. After asking in May to replace anything 
relating to charging the batteries the company finally replaced the charger (in 
October, didn’t fix it) then battery boxes, the joystick and the 2-prong thing 
that the battery box slides into on the chair in December. Haven’t had a 
problem since (knock on wood).   Best of luck, it is so dang frustrating   
Nicki     Greg, I think we are in the same boat! I just had my 4th set of 
batteries put in Monday since March. All of a sudden my chair was stopping 
saying “low battery”. I would turn it off then on and go a few feet and repeat. 
Joystick shows full battery charge. Woke up in March and my house smelled like 
rotten eggs. I paid out of pocket for what they said were gel batteries from a 
battery supplier because I had to have them that day. $352 worth. In June, same 
thing with my chair stopping saying low battery but joystick shows full charge 
(I use my chair very little). They swapped out batteries at no charge but said 
it had to be my chair. DME company came out right after 4th of July and ordered 
new batteries and new charger. Got them Sept 9, they said what I had was not 
true gel cell . Last week, same thing, low battery and chair stopping even 
though joystick shows full charge. We ordered new battery boxes, receptacles, 
joystick and they warrantied my batteries but by the time parts get here these 
batteries will be shot and I’ll have to pay out of pocket again. My chair is 8 
yrs old and new chair process is on hold until medicare covers parts. 
Soo frustrated the DME company drug their feet on parts and really 
trying to troubleshoot the problem. I asked in July to order anything it could 
possibly be. I did call Invacare and they said DME company should have brought 
programmer to see fault codes so I called them and asked that he please bring 
it. Really didn’t tell much other than I’m having low batteries.   I feel your 
pain and good luck!   Nicki    From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:06 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery    I'd like it too.  My chair 
often feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.  Fully charged, I'll be 
drivin

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread wheelchair
Without a certified tech, your chair is just a fancy, expensive,  
flashlight.  Does not sound like your batteries are the issue, but rather  are 
suffering the effects of a component failure.  For example if the  magnetic 
brakes 
have internal issues, each manufacturer requires that the motor  assembly, 
which includes the magnetic brakes, motor and gearbox be replaced.  Also 
when replacing a motor assembly, both motors are replaced for even movement  of 
the chair.  There is a lot more to it and I hope you find a certified  tech.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:06:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
g...@eskimo.com writes:

I'd like it too.
My chair often feels like the auto breaks  are on, or grabbing.
Fully charged, I'll be driving and the  chair stops dead, I jurk forward.
The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No  idea whats going on.
Greg


> Would anyone still have  that post regarding all the alternate
> causes why a wheelchair  battery gets drained, yet these issues
> aren't typically looked  at by wheelchair companies?
>
>
>  Jeff



Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread wheelchair
Each manufacturer makes the necessary testing equipment for Tech Providers  
to test the integrity of each component on an electric wheelchair or  
scooter.  Dealer programmers are also available to trained Techs. For end  
users, 
a multi voltage meter and amperage draw meter is a good start.  Keep  in 
mind that attaching the equipment to the wrong terminals could cause more  
expensive damage, plus repair time delay.
I hope this helps, a lil.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 11:13:34 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jsga...@yahoo.com writes:

 
Thanks, Greg.  I was looking more for the post where  someone provided 
possible reasons, other than the obvious, for why a chair  isn't getting the 
mileage it should.  The post contained other areas of a  chair that could be 
drawing charge from the battery, rather than normal,  expected use.




 
 
  

 From: greg  <g...@eskimo.com>
To:  quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent:  Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:06 AM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining  Battery


  
 
I'd like it too.
My chair often feels like the auto breaks  are on, or grabbing.
Fully charged, I'll be driving and the  chair stops dead, I jurk forward.
The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No  idea whats going on.
Greg  





> Would anyone still have  that post regarding all the alternate
> causes why a wheelchair  battery gets drained, yet these issues
> aren't typically looked  at by wheelchair companies?
>
>
>  Jeff













Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread wheelchair
Consider, you medical mobility electric chair, a very high liability item.  
For that reason Pride Suggested that you return to the medical provider and 
have  them call Pride or Quantum Tech Service.  Yes, I know its 
frustrating.  or you can email msm...@pridemobility.com   with the  
serial 
number and your provider and advise him of your issues and what you think  
could/might be wrong.  A dealer programmer can verify your theories. Mark,  is 
a 
Manager in the Quantum Div  of Pride.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 5:34:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
jsga...@yahoo.com writes:

 
I won't call these companies the names I would like to call these  
companies. That's why I was looking for that paragraph describing other issues  
that 
can drain batteries outside of what you'd normally expect. I wrote the  
Pride Corporation – maker of my chair – and was going to ask them about these  
other issues. Their response, without asking me anything, was that I needed 
to  speak with the company that works on my chair…
Jeff



 
 
  

 From: Nichole Rohling  <zoocr...@windstream.net>
To: 'greg' <g...@eskimo.com>;  'Jeffrey Gaede' <jsga...@yahoo.com>; 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 2:24  PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  Wheelchair Draining Battery


  
 
 
Found two  posts I made regarding batteries showing full but couldn’t 
hardly go out of my  house…….would say charge batteries when going over a 
threshold or  incline
 
I had the same  problem last year beginning in March. The batteries were 
replaced 4 times.  After asking in May to replace anything relating to 
charging the batteries the  company finally replaced the charger (in October, 
didn’
t fix it) then battery  boxes, the joystick and the 2-prong thing that the 
battery box slides into on  the chair in December. Haven’t had a problem 
since (knock on  wood).
 
Best of luck,  it is so dang frustrating
 
Nicki
 
 
Greg,
I think we are in the same boat! I just had my  4th set of batteries put in 
Monday since March. All of a sudden my  chair was stopping saying “low 
battery”. I would turn it off then on and go a  few feet and repeat. Joystick 
shows full battery charge. Woke up in March and  my house smelled like rotten 
eggs. I paid out of pocket for what they said  were gel batteries from a 
battery supplier because I had to have them that  day. $352 worth. In June, 
same thing with my chair stopping saying low battery  but joystick shows full 
charge (I use my chair very little). They swapped out  batteries at no charge 
but said it had to be my chair. DME company came out  right after 4th of 
July and ordered new batteries and new charger.  Got them Sept 9, they said 
what I had was not true gel cell . Last  week, same thing, low battery and 
chair stopping even though joystick shows  full charge. We ordered new battery 
boxes, receptacles, joystick and they  warrantied my batteries but by the 
time parts get here these batteries will be  shot and I’ll have to pay out of 
pocket again. My chair is 8 yrs old and new  chair process is on hold until 
medicare covers parts. Soo frustrated  the DME company drug their 
feet on parts and really trying to troubleshoot the  problem. I asked in July 
to order anything it could possibly be. I did call  Invacare and they said 
DME company should have brought programmer to see fault  codes so I called 
them and asked that he please bring it. Really didn’t tell  much other than I’
m having low batteries.
 
I feel your pain and good luck!
 
Nicki
 
 
 
 
 
From: greg  [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017  11:06 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining  Battery


 
 
I'd like it  too.

 
My chair often  feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.

 
Fully charged,  I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk forward.

 
The joystick  flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on.

 
Greg

 
> Would  anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate

 
> causes  why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues

 
> aren't  typically looked at by wheelchair companies?

 
>  

 
>  

 
>  Jeff















Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread wheelchair
Changing out parts without determining the cause is foolish and time  
consuming.  I also realize that the process is much easier just to swap out  
parts and components. Manufacturers require a test on each component and the 
use 
 of a programmer to determine a part or component failures.
Certified Techs, know exactly what is necessary to perform. Shady tree  
mechanical just swap out parts and components.  Remember each motor has 3  
components, magnetic brake, 24 volt motor and gearbox.  Please keep that in  
mind.  It may not be the batteries, but rather a failed component that is  
allowing the batteries to drain.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 8/2/2017 4:24:35 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
zoocr...@windstream.net writes:

 
Found  two posts I made regarding batteries showing full but couldn’t 
hardly go out  of my house…….would say charge batteries when going over a 
threshold or  incline 
I  had the same problem last year beginning in March. The batteries were 
replaced  4 times. After asking in May to replace anything relating to 
charging the  batteries the company finally replaced the charger (in October, 
didn’
t fix it)  then battery boxes, the joystick and the 2-prong thing that the 
battery box  slides into on the chair in December. Haven’t had a problem 
since (knock on  wood). 
Best  of luck, it is so dang frustrating 
Nicki 
Greg, 
I  think we are in the same boat! I just had my 4th set of batteries  put 
in Monday since March. All of a sudden my chair was stopping saying “low  
battery”. I would turn it off then on and go a few feet and repeat. Joystick  
shows full battery charge. Woke up in March and my house smelled like rotten  
eggs. I paid out of pocket for what they said were gel batteries from a  
battery supplier because I had to have them that day. $352 worth. In June,  
same thing with my chair stopping saying low battery but joystick shows full  
charge (I use my chair very little). They swapped out batteries at no charge 
 but said it had to be my chair. DME company came out right after  4th of 
July and ordered new batteries and new charger. Got them  Sept 9, they said 
what I had was not true gel cell . Last week,  same thing, low battery and 
chair stopping even though joystick shows full  charge. We ordered new battery 
boxes, receptacles, joystick and they  warrantied my batteries but by the 
time parts get here these batteries will be  shot and I’ll have to pay out of 
pocket again. My chair is 8 yrs old and new  chair process is on hold until 
medicare covers parts. Soo frustrated  the DME company drug their 
feet on parts and really trying to troubleshoot the  problem. I asked in July 
to order anything it could possibly be. I did call  Invacare and they said 
DME company should have brought programmer to see fault  codes so I called 
them and asked that he please bring it. Really didn’t tell  much other than I’
m having low batteries. 
I  feel your pain and good luck! 
Nicki 
 
 
From: greg  [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:06  AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  Wheelchair Draining Battery

 
I'd like it  too.
 
My chair often  feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.
 
Fully charged, I'll  be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk  forward.
 
The joystick  flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going  on.
 
Greg
 
>  Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate
 
>  causes why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues
 
>  aren't typically looked at by wheelchair companies?
 
> 
 
> 
 
>  Jeff




Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
I won't call these companies the names I would like to call these companies. 
That's why I was looking for that paragraph describing other issues that can 
drain batteries outside of what you'd normally expect. I wrote the Pride 
Corporation – maker of my chair – and was going to ask them about these other 
issues. Their response, without asking me anything, was that I needed to speak 
with the company that works on my chair…Jeff

  From: Nichole Rohling <zoocr...@windstream.net>
 To: 'greg' <g...@eskimo.com>; 'Jeffrey Gaede' <jsga...@yahoo.com>; 
quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 2:24 PM
 Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery
   
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{}#yiv4158219559 Found two posts I made regarding batteries showing full but 
couldn’t hardly go out of my house…….would say charge batteries when going over 
a threshold or incline  I had the same problem last year beginning in March. 
The batteries were replaced 4 times. After asking in May to replace anything 
relating to charging the batteries the company finally replaced the charger (in 
October, didn’t fix it) then battery boxes, the joystick and the 2-prong thing 
that the battery box slides into on the chair in December. Haven’t had a 
problem since (knock on wood).  Best of luck, it is so dang frustrating  Nicki  
  Greg,I think we are in the same boat! I just had my 4th set of batteries put 
in Monday since March. All of a sudden my chair was stopping saying “low 
battery”. I would turn it off then on and go a few feet and repeat. Joystick 
shows full battery charge. Woke up in March and my house smelled like rotten 
eggs. I paid out of pocket for what they said were gel batteries from a battery 
supplier because I had to have them that day. $352 worth. In June, same thing 
with my chair stopping saying low battery but joystick shows full charge (I use 
my chair very little). They swapped out batteries at no charge but said it had 
to be my chair. DME company came out right after 4th of July and ordered new 
batteries and new charger. Got them Sept 9, they said what I had was not true 
gel cell . Last week, same thing, low battery and chair stopping even though 
joystick shows full charge. We ordered new battery boxes, receptacles, joystick 
and they warrantied my batteries but by the time parts get here these batteries 
will be shot and I’ll have to pay out of pocket again. My chair is 8 yrs old 
and new chair process is on hold until medicare covers parts. Soo 
frustrated the DME company drug their feet on parts and really trying to 
troubleshoot the problem. I asked in July to order anything it could possibly 
be. I did call Invacare and they said DME company should have brought 
programmer to see fault codes so I called them and asked that he please bring 
it. Really didn’t tell much other than I’m having low batteries.  I feel your 
pain and good luck!  Nicki    From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:06 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery  I'd like it too.My chair 
often feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.Fully charged, I'll be 
driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk forward.The joystick flashes Recharge 
Battaries. No idea whats going on.Greg> Would anyone still have that post 
regarding all the alternate> causes why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet 
these issues> aren't typically looked at by wheelchair companies?>  >  > Jeff

   

RE: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread Nichole Rohling
Found two posts I made regarding batteries showing full but couldn’t hardly go 
out of my house…….would say charge batteries when going over a threshold or 
incline

 

I had the same problem last year beginning in March. The batteries were 
replaced 4 times. After asking in May to replace anything relating to charging 
the batteries the company finally replaced the charger (in October, didn’t fix 
it) then battery boxes, the joystick and the 2-prong thing that the battery box 
slides into on the chair in December. Haven’t had a problem since (knock on 
wood).

 

Best of luck, it is so dang frustrating

 

Nicki

 

 

Greg,

I think we are in the same boat! I just had my 4th set of batteries put in 
Monday since March. All of a sudden my chair was stopping saying “low battery”. 
I would turn it off then on and go a few feet and repeat. Joystick shows full 
battery charge. Woke up in March and my house smelled like rotten eggs. I paid 
out of pocket for what they said were gel batteries from a battery supplier 
because I had to have them that day. $352 worth. In June, same thing with my 
chair stopping saying low battery but joystick shows full charge (I use my 
chair very little). They swapped out batteries at no charge but said it had to 
be my chair. DME company came out right after 4th of July and ordered new 
batteries and new charger. Got them Sept 9, they said what I had was not true 
gel cell . Last week, same thing, low battery and chair stopping even though 
joystick shows full charge. We ordered new battery boxes, receptacles, joystick 
and they warrantied my batteries but by the time parts get here these batteries 
will be shot and I’ll have to pay out of pocket again. My chair is 8 yrs old 
and new chair process is on hold until medicare covers parts. Soo 
frustrated the DME company drug their feet on parts and really trying to 
troubleshoot the problem. I asked in July to order anything it could possibly 
be. I did call Invacare and they said DME company should have brought 
programmer to see fault codes so I called them and asked that he please bring 
it. Really didn’t tell much other than I’m having low batteries.

 

I feel your pain and good luck!

 

Nicki

 

 

From: greg [mailto:g...@eskimo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 11:06 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

 

I'd like it too.

My chair often feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.

Fully charged, I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk forward.

The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on.

Greg

> Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate

> causes why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues

> aren't typically looked at by wheelchair companies?

> 

> 

> Jeff



Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
Thanks, Greg.  I was looking more for the post where someone provided possible 
reasons, other than the obvious, for why a chair isn't getting the mileage it 
should.  The post contained other areas of a chair that could be drawing charge 
from the battery, rather than normal, expected use.

  From: greg <g...@eskimo.com>
 To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2017 9:06 AM
 Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery
   
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too.My chair often feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.Fully 
charged, I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk forward.The joystick 
flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on.Greg

> Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate> causes why a 
> wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues> aren't typically looked at 
> by wheelchair companies?>>> Jeff

   

Re: [QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-02 Thread greg
I'd like it too.
My chair often feels like the auto breaks are on, or grabbing.
Fully charged, I'll be driving and the chair stops dead, I jurk forward.
The joystick flashes Recharge Battaries. No idea whats going on.
Greg
> Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate
> causes why a wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues
> aren't typically looked at by wheelchair companies?
>
>
> Jeff




[QUAD-L] Wheelchair Draining Battery

2017-08-01 Thread Jeffrey Gaede
Would anyone still have that post regarding all the alternate causes why a 
wheelchair battery gets drained, yet these issues aren't typically looked at by 
wheelchair companies?
Jeff