RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion
As I've posted previously, I question the true value of pressure mapping. Doesn't the process and mapping assume you will always be seated (positioned) exactly the same way in your chair on your cushion each time? It seems even a minor variance (perhaps 1) left, right, forward or backward would effectively change the mapping. There may also be variances due to types of clothing worn and changes in weight. Steve - C4, 21 years From: e m treston [mailto:missl...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:10 AM To: 'Derrick'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion NEVER get a new cushion without being pressure mapped. If you have had no skin issues with your current cushion why oh why would you want to risk a breakdown with a cushion recommended by a DME supplier? _ From: Derrick [mailto:whe...@cvn.net] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:42 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] seat cushion Does anyone use the new seat cushion The Matrx Flo-tech cushion Here is their website http://www.motionconcepts.com/ My dealer rep recommended it. I use to use a Jay GS and Jay 2. I am looking at getting a new cushion. Thanks, DerrickW
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Yes and no. It does change as your position changes, but you'd have to be pretty changed to make a real difference. But if you saw the pressure difference on my mapping of my Jay and my Roho, it was clearly more relief on my Roho. I was able to see how the pressure changes as I raised and lowered my leg-rests. I could tell where the best location was. Even if I'm slightly on one butt cheek more than the other or off to one side a bit. One day may fit better than another, but averaged out the better your cushion fits you the better for your butt. If I was 1 inch off, I'd be pretty uncomfortable. I think that would be bad on your butt with any cushion. Just my thoughts. Greg _ As I've posted previously, I question the true value of pressure mapping. Doesn't the process and mapping assume you will always be seated (positioned) exactly the same way in your chair on your cushion each time? It seems even a minor variance (perhaps 1) left, right, forward or backward would effectively change the mapping. There may also be variances due to types of clothing worn and changes in weight.
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I never had pressure mapping until I developed a stage one pressure ulcer. I didn't realize it at the time that it was being caused by my jeans. I sat on a number of different cushions during the very simple procedure. It turns out that the best cushion for me is the 2 inch piece of foam. A RoHo showed my bottom to have very many red spots, same with the very expensive gel cushions. You should move around or have the occupational therapists move you around to see where/when pressure is occurring. In answering the first post of this original question, my concern was the person was being pushed to buy a question just because of a dealer recommends the cushion. We all have different asses ;-) _ From: Steve Oldaker [mailto:steve.olda...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:34 AM To: 'e m treston'; 'Derrick'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion As I've posted previously, I question the true value of pressure mapping. Doesn't the process and mapping assume you will always be seated (positioned) exactly the same way in your chair on your cushion each time? It seems even a minor variance (perhaps 1) left, right, forward or backward would effectively change the mapping. There may also be variances due to types of clothing worn and changes in weight. Steve - C4, 21 years From: e m treston [mailto:missl...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:10 AM To: 'Derrick'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion NEVER get a new cushion without being pressure mapped. If you have had no skin issues with your current cushion why oh why would you want to risk a breakdown with a cushion recommended by a DME supplier? _ From: Derrick [mailto:whe...@cvn.net] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:42 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] seat cushion Does anyone use the new seat cushion The Matrx Flo-tech cushion Here is their website http://www.motionconcepts.com/ My dealer rep recommended it. I use to use a Jay GS and Jay 2. I am looking at getting a new cushion. Thanks, DerrickW
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That should read Pushed to buy a cushion, not buy a question! Silly dictation software!! :-) _ From: e m treston [mailto:missl...@optonline.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 3:39 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion I never had pressure mapping until I developed a stage one pressure ulcer. I didn't realize it at the time that it was being caused by my jeans. I sat on a number of different cushions during the very simple procedure. It turns out that the best cushion for me is the 2 inch piece of foam. A RoHo showed my bottom to have very many red spots, same with the very expensive gel cushions. You should move around or have the occupational therapists move you around to see where/when pressure is occurring. In answering the first post of this original question, my concern was the person was being pushed to buy a question just because of a dealer recommends the cushion. We all have different asses ;-) _ From: Steve Oldaker [mailto:steve.olda...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:34 AM To: 'e m treston'; 'Derrick'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion As I've posted previously, I question the true value of pressure mapping. Doesn't the process and mapping assume you will always be seated (positioned) exactly the same way in your chair on your cushion each time? It seems even a minor variance (perhaps 1) left, right, forward or backward would effectively change the mapping. There may also be variances due to types of clothing worn and changes in weight. Steve - C4, 21 years From: e m treston [mailto:missl...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:10 AM To: 'Derrick'; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion NEVER get a new cushion without being pressure mapped. If you have had no skin issues with your current cushion why oh why would you want to risk a breakdown with a cushion recommended by a DME supplier? _ From: Derrick [mailto:whe...@cvn.net] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:42 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] seat cushion Does anyone use the new seat cushion The Matrx Flo-tech cushion Here is their website http://www.motionconcepts.com/ My dealer rep recommended it. I use to use a Jay GS and Jay 2. I am looking at getting a new cushion. Thanks, DerrickW
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I have to agree with you Greg. If I'm off as much as a 1/4 of an inch I am extremely uncomfortable. A friend of mine is having the pressure mapping done as I speak. The only reason these haven't done is because he has been developing some raw spots on his rear end. He uses a 1 inch foam cushion. Hopefully they will find something that works well with him. Quadius On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Greg g...@eskimo.com wrote: Yes and no. It does change as your position changes, but you’d have to be pretty changed to make a real difference. But if you saw the pressure difference on my mapping of my Jay and my Roho, it was clearly more relief on my Roho. I was able to see how the pressure changes as I raised and lowered my leg-rests. I could tell where the best location was. Even if I’m slightly on one butt cheek more than the other or off to one side a bit. One day may fit better than another, but averaged out the better your cushion fits you the better for your butt. If I was 1 inch off, I’d be pretty uncomfortable. I think that would be bad on your butt with any cushion. Just my thoughts… Greg -- As I've posted previously, I question the true value of pressure mapping. Doesn't the process and mapping assume you will always be seated (positioned) exactly the same way in your chair on your cushion each time? It seems even a minor variance (perhaps 1) left, right, forward or backward would effectively change the mapping. There may also be variances due to types of clothing worn and changes in weight.
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At 06:32 PM 7/29/2009, Quadius said something that elicited my response: I have to agree with you Greg. If I'm off as much as a 1/4 of an inch I am extremely uncomfortable. Ain't that the truth! When my PCAs put me in my chair or adjust me in bed, I often have them move me ever so lightly one way or another. The new ones say 'I hardly moved you!' I always reply that quads live by millimeters. And if we hit a bad bump while driving in the van, I'm shifted an inch or so which results in my inability to do much of anything. Dan Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind...War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today. - John F. Kennedy
RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion
I do agree that even smaller diversions in seating are detectable by me and it appears most quads, and if pressure mapping is done with multiple cushions and seating positions (i.e. legs up/down, etc.) I can see some value in pressure mapping. Thanks for all of the input. Steve - C4, 21 years From: Dan [mailto:d...@unh.edu] Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 7:15 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] seat cushion At 06:32 PM 7/29/2009, Quadius said something that elicited my response: I have to agree with you Greg. If I'm off as much as a 1/4 of an inch I am extremely uncomfortable. Ain't that the truth! When my PCAs put me in my chair or adjust me in bed, I often have them move me ever so lightly one way or another. The new ones say 'I hardly moved you!' I always reply that quads live by millimeters. And if we hit a bad bump while driving in the van, I'm shifted an inch or so which results in my inability to do much of anything. Dan Mankind must put an end to war, or war will put an end to mankind...War will exist until that distant day when the conscientious objector enjoys the same reputation and prestige that the warrior does today. - John F. Kennedy
RE: [QUAD-L] seat cushion
NEVER get a new cushion without being pressure mapped. If you have had no skin issues with your current cushion why oh why would you want to risk a breakdown with a cushion recommended by a DME supplier? _ From: Derrick [mailto:whe...@cvn.net] Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 8:42 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] seat cushion Does anyone use the new seat cushion The Matrx Flo-tech cushion Here is their website http://www.motionconcepts.com/ My dealer rep recommended it. I use to use a Jay GS and Jay 2. I am looking at getting a new cushion. Thanks, DerrickW
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I got a butt sore from a Jay. I had it for a few years and liked it a lot. I felted a lot more stable and I didn't change position during the day. But I've used a Roho for over 20 years, but did get 1 sore. It was my own fault, my Roho went flat and I never noticed. I should have. I kept sweating and would have to recline quite often. But I was real busy for a few days during that time. And pressure mapping is always a good Idea, even if your just changing to a new cushion of the same kind. Greg _ I've always use the same cushion for years which is a Roho cushion and I've honnestly never had a bed sore on the butt, hehe..
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Hi, I never used it but I've always use the same cushion for years which is a Roho cushion and I've honnestly never had a bed sore on the butt, hehe...They are the best brand I think. Yannik Anglehart C5-C6 Quad From: Derrick Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:42 PM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] seat cushion Does anyone use the new seat cushion The Matrx Flo-tech cushion Here is their website http://www.motionconcepts.com/ My dealer rep recommended it. I use to use a Jay GS and Jay 2. I am looking at getting a new cushion. Thanks, DerrickW
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Hi, I never used it but I've always use the same cushion for years which is a Roho cushion and I've honnestly never had a bed sore on the butt, hehe...They are the best brand I think. Yannik Anglehart C5-C6 Quad
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I've never tried it but it looks good ... _http://www.medicsmobility.ca/category.php?category=59_ (http://www.medicsmobility.ca/category.php?category=59) azdave Young people talk of the future because they have no past, while old people talk of the past because they have no future. _Dave Patty's Grandkids_ (http://ocgrands.com/) In a message dated 7/27/2009 5:52:08 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, yanni...@hotmail.com writes: Hi, I never used it but I've always use the same cushion for years which is a Roho cushion and I've honnestly never had a bed sore on the butt, hehe...They are the best brand I think. Yannik Anglehart C5-C6 Quad From: _Derrick_ (mailto:whe...@cvn.net) Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:42 PM To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) Subject: [QUAD-L] seat cushion Does anyone use the new seat cushion The Matrx Flo-tech cushion Here is their website _http://www.motionconcepts.com/_ (http://www.motionconcepts.com/) My dealer rep recommended it. I use to use a Jay GS and Jay 2. I am looking at getting a new cushion. Thanks, DerrickW **A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072hmpgID=115bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)
Re: [QUAD-L] Seat Cushion
Based on what everyone said it sounds like air is the way to go as opposed to gel, foam, or sand. Right? Sandy
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I used a Jay cushion, gel filled. I sat great in it, felt great. But about 2 years later, I had an mri on my hip. They noticed a large sore under my muscles on my butt. It hadnt broken though yet. They sent me to a surgeon thinking they should drain it. The surgeon said dont touch it. He made me get a Roho cushion. A year later they checked and it had healed up. Greg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 8:25 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Seat Cushion Based on what everyone said it sounds like air is the way to go as opposed to gel, foam, or sand. Right? Sandy
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i have been on roho 7+ years, have tried lots other, jay, honeycomb, etc... none compareEric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.rohoinc.com Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:11 PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] Seat Cushion Hey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy
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just what i need for posterity.my butt mapped permanently. think pictures are good enough for now...Ray Trostem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hey W, How do they do that? When you are sitting or lying? Just wondering, RFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 12:19 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] Seat CushionYou, my dear, have a most unique buttocks. lol. Having you considered have your butt map'd, er oops, by a thermal computer sensor to determine your hot spots. Then and only then with I consider looking for the right or best cushion for you butt.Best WishesW
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Hi Greg,The seat looks a lot like my Spenco Pad mattress over-lay, and I've used one for nearly 20 yearswithouut problems, so it should be agood seat. http://www.medicalproductsdirect.com/spencomtouct.htmlWith Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USAI found the Spenco Chair pad and yours does look better! http://www.theinsoleman.com/products/10260Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, I havent tried it yet, but I have an appointment on Tuesday to be fitted for a chair. Im going to ask about this back. It looks comfortable to me. http://www.gerald-simonds.co.uk/acatalog/info%5f2%5fGS%5fAMB%2ehtmlGrerg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:11 AMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] Seat Cushion Hey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy
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Hi Liz,I agree. A person can't tell what the pressure is under them without being mapped. Good advice!With Love, CtrlAltDel aka DaveC4/5 Complete - 30 Years PostTexas, USA Miss Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get your ass pressure mapped.- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Seat CushionHey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy
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Hi, I havent tried it yet, but I have an appointment on Tuesday to be fitted for a chair. Im going to ask about this back. It looks comfortable to me. http://www.gerald-simonds.co.uk/acatalog/info%5f2%5fGS%5fAMB%2ehtml Grerg From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:11 AM To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: [QUAD-L] Seat Cushion Hey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy
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get your ass pressure mapped. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Seat Cushion Hey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy
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Title: Message http://www.rohoinc.com Eric W Rudd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 12:11 PMTo: quad-list@eskimo.comSubject: [QUAD-L] Seat Cushion Hey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy
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You, my dear, have a most unique buttocks. lol. Having you considered have your butt map'd, er oops, by a thermal computer sensor to determine your hot spots. Then and only then with I consider looking for the right or best cushion for you butt. Best Wishes W In a message dated 8/27/2006 1:09:28 PM Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy
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I have found that the Deep Contour Jay Cushionhas really been the Best on the Market but then, you might like the Rojo Type Cushion but on my part I would test the the first one I mentioned. Go to http://www.southwestmedical.com/AB1588000/category.cfm?did=7catid=18to see the numerous types of Cushions..Best Regards, Chet ( Cquad7 )Miss Liz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: get your ass pressure mapped.- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 1:11 PM Subject: [QUAD-L] Seat CushionHey gang, I need a new seat cushion. I don't like what I currently have. What do you recommend that's REAL good? Thanks as always! Sandy Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail.
