RE: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[Lissette Whitehead]

I hardly ever have blood 
pressure issues, if I get a bit lightheaded I just have someone press on
 my stomach and I'm ok. I do this both with physical therapists and at 
home, my mom and this guy that is not a therapist but has been helping 
me exercise at home were taught how to stand me like that by my 
therapist, it took about 1 hour or less for them to learn, there's 
really not much to it, it also helps that my knees lock out pretty good,
 if they're not locking out it just takes a little shake to trigger that
 spasm that helps to block the knees. It also helps me to lean forward 
like to do a back extension, that will make my legs react and my knees 
lock out. 



Lissette Whitehead
www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com
www.lwgripgloves.com




From: wheelch...@aol.com
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 12:18:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density
To: lissw...@hotmail.com; quad...@gmail.com
CC: ddh...@sbcglobal.net; onemofor...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com








How's your blood pressure when standing?  Are you wording with aids or 
physical therapist?
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 3/13/2010 12:18:45 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
lissw...@hotmail.com writes:
I do a lot of 
  standing and it helps me a lot, I have a standing frame which I love because 
  it has the hand gliders where i strap my hands on and someone moves them for 
  me, that helps a lot for circulation and bp, at first it's difficult but it 
  gets easier the more you do it. I also have a walker with arm supports which 
I 
  use for standing, it takes 2 people to get me up but once i'm up only one 
  sitting on a chair in front of me holds my hips and blocks my knees with his 
  knees, it's pretty easy and it really feels great. Here's a couple pictures 
of 
  what I'm talking about 
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0629.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0631.jpg. By the way, the 
  walker is from a thrift store and it cost 20 bucks!! 

Lissette Whitehead
www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com
www.lwgripgloves.com





  
  Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:52:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone 
  density
From: quad...@gmail.com
To: wheelch...@aol.com
CC: 
  ddh...@sbcglobal.net; onemofor...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com

Make 
  sure you get permission from your primary physician before doing standing 
  therapy.  When I tried it about 10 years ago, my physician gave me the 
  go-ahead, but doesn't believe it helps keep the bone density up.  It 
  does, however, help with spasticity as well as making people feel better.
I 
  had too much problem getting up in the standing frame.  It required two 
  people and a tremendous amount of effort.  Not to mention the fact that I 
  was too tall for the frame.  It ended up causing more pain to my neck and 
  shoulder then it was worth, so I turned the equipment back 
  in
Quadius



  On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:19 PM,  wrote:

  

Dan I've seen people build their own equipment or friends.  3 X 8 
piece of 1/2 inch plywood with belt straps and footplate form.  On the 
back, several notches for different angles. Where there is a strong family 
and a defined will there is a way.
 
Best Wishes



 

In a message dated 3/4/2010 2:00:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

  
  stand therapy??? what quad can afford that?? those machines cost 
  thousands too-i gave that thought up years ago--Dan H.

  

  
  
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Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[wheelchair]

How's your blood pressure when standing?  Are you wording with aids or  
physical therapist?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/13/2010 12:18:45 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
lissw...@hotmail.com writes:

I do a lot of  standing and it helps me a lot, I have a standing frame 
which I love because  it has the hand gliders where i strap my hands on and 
someone moves them for  me, that helps a lot for circulation and bp, at first 
it's difficult but it  gets easier the more you do it. I also have a walker 
with arm supports which I  use for standing, it takes 2 people to get me up 
but once i'm up only one  sitting on a chair in front of me holds my hips and 
blocks my knees with his  knees, it's pretty easy and it really feels great. 
Here's a couple pictures of  what I'm talking about 
_http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0629.jpg
_ (http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0629.jpg) 
_http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0631.jpg_ 
(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0631.jpg) . By the way, the  
walker is from a thrift 
store and it cost 20 bucks!! 

Lissette Whitehead
_www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com_ 
(http://www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com/) 
_www.lwgripgloves.com_ (http://www.lwgripgloves.com/) 




 

Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:52:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone  density
From: quad...@gmail.com
To: wheelch...@aol.com
CC:  ddh...@sbcglobal.net; onemofor...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com

Make  sure you get permission from your primary physician before doing 
standing  therapy.  When I tried it about 10 years ago, my physician gave me 
the 
 go-ahead, but doesn't believe it helps keep the bone density up.  It  
does, however, help with spasticity as well as making people feel better.
I  had too much problem getting up in the standing frame.  It required two  
people and a tremendous amount of effort.  Not to mention the fact that I  
was too tall for the frame.  It ended up causing more pain to my neck and  
shoulder then it was worth, so I turned the equipment back  in
Quadius


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:19 PM, <_wheelch...@aol.com_ 
(mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) > wrote:


Dan I've seen people build their own equipment or friends.  3 X 8  piece of 
1/2 inch plywood with belt straps and footplate form.  On the  back, 
several notches for different angles. Where there is a strong family  and a 
defined will there is a way.
 
Best Wishes
 

 

 
In a message dated 3/4/2010 2:00:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
_ddh...@sbcglobal.net_ (mailto:ddh...@sbcglobal.net)  writes:

 
stand therapy??? what quad can afford that?? those machines cost  thousands 
too-i gave that thought up years ago--Dan H.


 

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RE: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[Lissette Whitehead]

I do a lot of standing and it helps me a lot, I have a standing frame which I 
love because it has the hand gliders where i strap my hands on and someone 
moves them for me, that helps a lot for circulation and bp, at first it's 
difficult but it gets easier the more you do it. I also have a walker with arm 
supports which I use for standing, it takes 2 people to get me up but once i'm 
up only one sitting on a chair in front of me holds my hips and blocks my knees 
with his knees, it's pretty easy and it really feels great. Here's a couple 
pictures of what I'm talking about 
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0629.jpg
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t79/LISSW/HPIM0631.jpg. By the way, the 
walker is from a thrift store and it cost 20 bucks!! 

Lissette Whitehead
www.lissettesgoaltowalk.synthasite.com
www.lwgripgloves.com




Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:52:28 -0500
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density
From: quad...@gmail.com
To: wheelch...@aol.com
CC: ddh...@sbcglobal.net; onemofor...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com

Make sure you get permission from your primary physician before doing standing 
therapy.  When I tried it about 10 years ago, my physician gave me the 
go-ahead, but doesn't believe it helps keep the bone density up.  It does, 
however, help with spasticity as well as making people feel better.


I had too much problem getting up in the standing frame.  It required two 
people and a tremendous amount of effort.  Not to mention the fact that I was 
too tall for the frame.  It ended up causing more pain to my neck and shoulder 
then it was worth, so I turned the equipment back in

Quadius



On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:19 PM,  wrote:



Dan I've seen people build their own equipment or friends.  3 X 8 piece of 1/2 
inch plywood with belt straps and footplate form.  On the back, several notches 
for different angles. Where there is a strong family and a defined will 
there is a way.

 
Best Wishes



 

In a message dated 3/4/2010 2:00:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:


stand therapy??? what quad can afford that?? those machines cost thousands 
too-i gave that thought up years ago--Dan H.





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Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[Quadius]

Make sure you get permission from your primary physician before doing
standing therapy.  When I tried it about 10 years ago, my physician gave me
the go-ahead, but doesn't believe it helps keep the bone density up.  It
does, however, help with spasticity as well as making people feel better.

I had too much problem getting up in the standing frame.  It required two
people and a tremendous amount of effort.  Not to mention the fact that I
was too tall for the frame.  It ended up causing more pain to my neck and
shoulder then it was worth, so I turned the equipment back in
Quadius

On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:19 PM,  wrote:

>  Dan I've seen people build their own equipment or friends.  3 X 8 piece
> of 1/2 inch plywood with belt straps and footplate form.  On the back,
> several notches for different angles. Where there is a strong family and a
> defined will there is a way.
>
> Best Wishes
>
>  In a message dated 3/4/2010 2:00:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>  stand therapy??? what quad can afford that?? those machines cost
> thousands too-i gave that thought up years ago--Dan H.
>
>  --
> *From:* "wheelch...@aol.com" 
> *To:*
>
>

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[shirley bell]

HI ALL, I WROTE A FEW MONTHS BACK ABOUT HAVING OSTEOPOROSIS -3.8 . I STILL HAVE 
NOT BEEN TREATED. I AM GOING TO A BOSTON DR,REHAB SPECIALIST, TO SEE IF SOME 
WEIGHT BEARING EXERCISE OR FES WOULD HELP ALONG WITH, EITHER FORTEO OR RECLAST( 
FOSOMAX IS THE SAME) IS IT DANA WHO IS ON FORTEO? IF SO HOW LONG AND ANY SIDE 
EFFECTS? HAVE YOU HAD A DENSITY DONE SINCE YOU STARTED FORTEO? MY DR THINKS 
MEDICARE WONT PAY FOR FORTEO BECAUSE I AM NOT MENOPAUSAL YET. I STILL DON'T 
KNOW ABOUT ANY OF IT WORKING FOR US BUT AM AFRAID OF FRACTURES. I TAKE 1200 
CALCIUM AND 50 THOUSAND VIT D A WEEK FOR NOW BECAUSE MY D WAS LOW WHEN TESTED. 
I WILL LET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT BOSTON DR SAYS. MY APPOINTMENT IS IN APRIL.
Best,
Shirley Bell

www.ShirleyBellDesigns.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: wheelch...@aol.com 
  To: ddh...@sbcglobal.net ; onemofor...@yahoo.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 3:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density


  Dan I've seen people build their own equipment or friends.  3 X 8 piece of 
1/2 inch plywood with belt straps and footplate form.  On the back, several 
notches for different angles. Where there is a strong family and a defined 
will there is a way.

  Best Wishes

  In a message dated 3/4/2010 2:00:45 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:
stand therapy??? what quad can afford that?? those machines cost thousands 
too-i gave that thought up years ago--Dan H.





From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
To: onemofor...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 1:46:00 PM
    Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density


And you CAN DO IT with proper standing therapy.  I wish you the very best!


In a message dated 3/4/2010 8:48:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
onemofor...@yahoo.com writes:
Hey W-
Yeah I hope to stand on these bones again; once I build my BMD back 
up
Thanks-
Tim

WhoopieKat.com

--- On Thu, 3/4/10, wheelch...@aol.com  wrote:


  From: wheelch...@aol.com 
          Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com
  Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 7:27 AM


  Standing therapy and simulated standing therapy is a great way to 
place pressure on the heel, knee and hips. Daily pressure like this goes a long 
way to prevent and reduce the effects of bone density loss.  Granted, I realize 
that it is not easy for most, but for those under the direction of a physical 
therapist, its a great way to tone the bones for pivot transfers.

  Best Wishes

  In a message dated 3/4/2010 1:37:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
daa...@aol.com writes:
I don't know what my number is, but I am on a good medication.  
I take Forteo injection one time a day, 750 CG.

I will be sure and ask next time.
Does anyone else take D3 plus calcium three times a day.

Dana C4-5, 35 years post, 56, Prairie Village (suburb of Kansas 
City, passenger in a MVA )

  a message dated 3/3/2010 9:44:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
c5sc...@gmail.com writes:
   
  tums daily?
  Eric W Rudd
  c5sc...@gmail.com
- Original Message - 
From: Greg 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:27 PM
            Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone density


I do not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I 
have to take a pill once a week and was told to eat Tums daily.

My testosterone was very low too.



  Greg C5 28y



--


My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does 
anyone else have numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year 
old male with what not enough female hormones (ha-ha). 

Thanks- 

Tim 


What your T-score means: 

  a.. A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. 
Examples are 0.8, 0.2 and -0.5. 
  a.. A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone 
density or osteopenia. Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 
  a.. A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of 
osteoporosis. Examples are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 


WhoopieKat.com 
   


   

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[wheelchair]

Dan I've seen people build their own equipment or friends.  3 X 8  piece of 
1/2 inch plywood with belt straps and footplate form.  On the  back, 
several notches for different angles. Where there is a strong family and a  
defined will there is a way.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/4/2010 2:00:45 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
ddh...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
stand therapy??? what quad can afford that?? those machines cost  thousands 
too-i gave that thought up years ago--Dan H.


 

 From: "wheelch...@aol.com"  
To: onemofor...@yahoo.com;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent:  Thu, March 4, 2010 1:46:00 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone  density

And you CAN DO IT with proper standing therapy.  I wish you the very  best!
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/4/2010 8:48:07 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
onemofor...@yahoo.com writes:

Hey W-
Yeah I hope to stand on these bones again; once I build my BMD  back up
Thanks-
Tim

_WhoopieKat.com_ (http://www.whoopiekat.com/) 

--- On  Thu, 3/4/10, wheelch...@aol.com   wrote:



From:  wheelch...@aol.com 
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] bone density
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date:  Thursday, March 4, 2010, 7:27 AM


Standing therapy and simulated standing therapy is a great way  to place 
pressure on the heel, knee and hips. Daily pressure like  this goes a long way 
to prevent and reduce the effects of bone  density loss.  Granted, I 
realize that it is not easy for most,  but for those under the direction of a 
physical therapist, its a  great way to tone the bones for pivot transfers.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/4/2010 1:37:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
daa...@aol.com writes:

 
I don't know what my number is, but I am on a good  medication.  I take 
Forteo injection one time a day, 750  CG.
 
I will be sure and ask next time.
Does anyone else take D3  plus calcium three times a day.

Dana C4-5, 35 years post,  56, Prairie Village (suburb of Kansas City, 
passenger in a MVA  )

a message dated 3/3/2010 9:44:17 P.M. Central  Standard Time, 
c5sc...@gmail.com writes:

  
tums daily?
Eric W Rudd
_c5sc...@gmail.com_ 
(http://us.mc625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=c5sc...@gmail.com) 

- Original Message -  
From: _Greg_ (http://us.mc625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=g...@eskimo.com) 
 
To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ 
(http://us.mc625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=quad-l...@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Wednesday, March  03, 2010 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  bone density



I do  not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to  take 
a pill once a week and was told to eat Tums  daily.
My  testosterone was very low  too.




Greg C5  28y

  

 

My  bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else  have 
numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere  44 year old male with 
what not enough female hormones  (ha-ha).  

Thanks-   

Tim   


What  your T-score means:  

*   A T-score between  +1 and -1 is normal bone density.  Examples are 
0.8, 0.2 and -0.5.  
*   A T-score between  -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density  or  
osteopenia. Examples are T-scores  of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 
*   A T-score of -2.5  or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis.  
Examples are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9.  


_WhoopieKat.com_ (http://www.whoopiekat.com/)   

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[Danny Hearn]

stand therapy??? what quad can afford that?? those machines cost thousands 
too-i gave that thought up years ago--Dan H.





From: "wheelch...@aol.com" 
To: onemofor...@yahoo.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thu, March 4, 2010 1:46:00 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density

And you CAN DO IT with proper standing therapy.  I wish you the very best!


In a message dated 3/4/2010 8:48:07 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
onemofor...@yahoo.com writes:
Hey W-
>Yeah I hope to stand on these bones again; once I build my BMD back up
>Thanks-
>Tim
>
>WhoopieKat.com
>
>--- On Thu, 3/4/10, wheelch...@aol.com  wrote:
>
>
>>From: wheelch...@aol.com 
>>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density
>>To: quad-list@eskimo.com
>>Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 7:27 AM
>>
>>
>>Standing therapy and simulated standing therapy is a great way to place 
>>pressure on the heel, knee and hips. Daily pressure like this goes a long way 
>>to prevent and reduce the effects of bone density loss.  Granted, I realize 
>>that it is not easy for most, but for those under the direction of a physical 
>>therapist, its a great way to tone the bones for pivot transfers.
>>
>>Best Wishes
>>
>>In a message dated 3/4/2010 1:37:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>daa...@aol.com writes:
>>I don't know what my number is, but I am on a good medication.  I take Forteo 
>>injection one time a day, 750 CG.
>>>
>>>I will be sure and ask next time.
>>>Does anyone else take D3 plus calcium three times a day.
>>>
>>>Dana C4-5, 35 years post, 56, Prairie Village (suburb of Kansas City, 
>>>passenger in a MVA )
>>>
>>>  a message dated 3/3/2010 9:44:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
>>>c5sc...@gmail.com writes:
>>> 
>>>>tums daily?
>>>>Eric W Rudd
>>>>c5sc...@gmail.com
>>>>- Original Message - 
>>>>>From: Greg 
>>>>>To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:27 PM
>>>>>Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone density
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to take a 
>>>>>pill once a week and was told to eat Tums daily.
>>>>>My testosterone was very low too.
>>>>
>>> 
>>Greg C5 28y
>>


>>My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have 
>>numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with 
>>what not enough female hormones (ha-ha). 
>>Thanks- 
>>Tim 
>>What your T-score means: 
>>  * A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are 0.8, 
>> 0.2 and -0.5. 
>>  * A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density 
>> orosteopenia. Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 
>>  * A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples 
>> are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 
>>
>>
>>WhoopieKat.com   
>

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[wheelchair]

And you CAN DO IT with proper standing therapy.  I wish you the very  best!
 
 
 
In a message dated 3/4/2010 8:48:07 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
onemofor...@yahoo.com writes:

Hey W-
Yeah I hope to stand on these bones again; once I build my BMD back  up
Thanks-
Tim

_WhoopieKat.com_ (http://www.whoopiekat.com/) 

--- On  Thu, 3/4/10, wheelch...@aol.com   wrote:



From:  wheelch...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  bone density
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, March  4, 2010, 7:27 AM


Standing therapy and simulated standing therapy is a great way to  place 
pressure on the heel, knee and hips. Daily pressure like this  goes a long way 
to prevent and reduce the effects of bone density  loss.  Granted, I 
realize that it is not easy for most, but for  those under the direction of a 
physical therapist, its a great way to  tone the bones for pivot transfers.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/4/2010 1:37:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
daa...@aol.com writes:

 
I don't know what my number is, but I am on a good  medication.  I take 
Forteo injection one time a day, 750  CG.
 
I will be sure and ask next time.
Does anyone else take D3  plus calcium three times a day.

Dana C4-5, 35 years post, 56,  Prairie Village (suburb of Kansas City, 
passenger in a MVA  )

a message dated 3/3/2010 9:44:17 P.M. Central  Standard Time, 
c5sc...@gmail.com writes:

  
tums daily?
Eric W Rudd
_c5sc...@gmail.com_ 
(http://us.mc625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=c5sc...@gmail.com) 

- Original Message - 
From:  _Greg_ 
(http://us.mc625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=g...@eskimo.com)  
To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ 
(http://us.mc625.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=quad-l...@eskimo.com)   
Sent: Wednesday, March 03,  2010 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone  density



I do  not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to  take 
a pill once a week and was told to eat Tums  daily.
My  testosterone was very low  too.




Greg C5  28y

  

 

My  bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else  have 
numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere  44 year old male with 
what not enough female hormones  (ha-ha).  

Thanks-   

Tim   


What  your T-score means:  

*   A T-score between  +1 and -1 is normal bone density.  Examples are 
0.8, 0.2 and -0.5.  
*   A T-score between  -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density  or  
osteopenia. Examples are T-scores  of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 
*   A T-score of -2.5  or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis.  
Examples are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9.  


_WhoopieKat.com_ (http://www.whoopiekat.com/)   

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[bob quinn]

A word of warning about Fosomax...

I was prescribed it (about 2 years ago) after I broke my leg just falling to 
the floor.  Along with that, they prescribed Prilosec to counter the stomach 
acid Fosomax generates.  THAT IS A BIG HINT!!

I took both for three weeks until i finally made the connection between the 
severe AD I suffered the day after my weekly dose, but by then the damage was 
done.  Fosomax' stomach acid had already eaten through my esophagus.

Since then I never know what food(s) will ignite the pain from acid reflux.  
I'm always careful to avoid fatty foods (hamburgers are totally off the menu), 
but all but mashed potatoes are a crap shoot.  No fun.

At 09:44 AM 3/4/2010, t crook wrote:
>Thanks Bob-
>My doc wants me on Fosamax, calcium, and vitamin D.
>Tim
>
>
><http://www.whoopiekat.com/>WhoopieKat.com
>
>--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Bob Vogel  wrote:
>
>From: Bob Vogel 
>Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density
>To: "t crook" 
>Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:26 PM
>
>Hi T, 
>
>If you are an "average quad" the good news is your upper body should have 
>normal to above normal bone density.  The bad news--you are probably at the 
>fracture threshold in your lower body.  Osteoporosis means you have a chance 
>of breaking a bone from a "standing fall" means 32% or less than 100% bone 
>density of a healthy sanding 30-year-old male.
>
>Fracture threshold is around 50% bone loss and you run the risk of fracturing 
>a bone from a sloppy transfer or even taking off socks, or rolling over in 
>bed.  I know, I'm 25 years post injury --a T10 complete para, complete with 4 
>femur/hip fractures.
>
>You can read all the info in the article I wrote in New Mobility 
>magazine--along with input from the leading researcher on the planet in SCI 
>and osteoporosis, Dr. Douglas Garland.
>The article is available at:  
><http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=11538&srch=Osteoporosis>http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=11538&srch=Osteoporosis
>When the article opens up, scroll down to the end and double click on "read 
>more" in red and the entire article will open up.
>
>Sincerely,
>Bob Vogel
>
>
>On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:03 PM, t crook wrote:
>
>>My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have 
>>numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with 
>>what not enough female hormones (ha-ha). 
>>Thanks- 
>>Tim 
>>  
>>What your T-score means: 
>>A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are 0.8, 0.2 and 
>>-0.5. 
>>A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or osteopenia. 
>>Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 
>>A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples are 
>>T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 
>>
>><http://www.whoopiekat.com/>WhoopieKat.com
>

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[t crook]

Hey W-
Yeah I hope to stand on these bones again; once I build my BMD back up
Thanks-
Tim

WhoopieKat.com

--- On Thu, 3/4/10, wheelch...@aol.com  wrote:


From: wheelch...@aol.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Thursday, March 4, 2010, 7:27 AM



Standing therapy and simulated standing therapy is a great way to place 
pressure on the heel, knee and hips. Daily pressure like this goes a long way 
to prevent and reduce the effects of bone density loss.  Granted, I realize 
that it is not easy for most, but for those under the direction of a physical 
therapist, its a great way to tone the bones for pivot transfers.
 
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 3/4/2010 1:37:11 A.M. Central Standard Time, daa...@aol.com 
writes:


I don't know what my number is, but I am on a good medication.  I take Forteo 
injection one time a day, 750 CG.
 
I will be sure and ask next time.
Does anyone else take D3 plus calcium three times a day.

Dana C4-5, 35 years post, 56, Prairie Village (suburb of Kansas City, passenger 
in a MVA )

  a message dated 3/3/2010 9:44:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
c5sc...@gmail.com writes:
 
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tums daily?
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com

- Original Message - 
From: Greg 
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone density



I do not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to take a pill 
once a week and was told to eat Tums daily.
My testosterone was very low too.
 
Greg C5 28y
 



 




My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have numbers 
this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with what not 
enough female hormones (ha-ha). 
Thanks-
Tim
 
What your T-score means:

A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are 0.8, 0.2 and 
-0.5. 

A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or osteopenia. 
Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 

A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples are 
T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 


WhoopieKat.com
 

 


  

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[t crook]

Thanks Bob-
My doc wants me on Fosamax, calcium, and vitamin D.
Tim

WhoopieKat.com

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Bob Vogel  wrote:


From: Bob Vogel 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] bone density
To: "t crook" 
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:26 PM


Hi T,


If you are an "average quad" the good news is your upper body should have 
normal to above normal bone density.  The bad news--you are probably at the 
fracture threshold in your lower body.  Osteoporosis means you have a chance of 
breaking a bone from a "standing fall" means 32% or less than 100% bone density 
of a healthy sanding 30-year-old male.


Fracture threshold is around 50% bone loss and you run the risk of fracturing a 
bone from a sloppy transfer or even taking off socks, or rolling over in bed.  
I know, I'm 25 years post injury --a T10 complete para, complete with 4 
femur/hip fractures.


You can read all the info in the article I wrote in New Mobility 
magazine--along with input from the leading researcher on the planet in SCI and 
osteoporosis, Dr. Douglas Garland.
The article is available at:  
http://www.newmobility.com/articleView.cfm?id=11538&srch=Osteoporosis
When the article opens up, scroll down to the end and double click on "read 
more" in red and the entire article will open up.


Sincerely,
Bob Vogel





On Mar 3, 2010, at 6:03 PM, t crook wrote:






My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have numbers 
this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with what not 
enough female hormones (ha-ha). 
Thanks- 
Tim 
  
What your T-score means: 

A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are 0.8, 0.2 and 
-0.5. 

A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or osteopenia. 
Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 

A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples are 
T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 

WhoopieKat.com




  

RE: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[t crook]

Thanks Greg-
The Fosamax I am to take is once a week; Tums are a good source of calcium.
Tim 

WhoopieKat.com

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Greg  wrote:


From: Greg 
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone density
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 9:27 PM








I do not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to take a pill 
once a week and was told to eat Tums daily.
My testosterone was very low too.
 
Greg C5 28y
 



 




My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have numbers 
this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with what not 
enough female hormones (ha-ha). 
Thanks-
Tim
 
What your T-score means:

A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are 0.8, 0.2 and 
-0.5. 

A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or osteopenia. 
Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 

A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples are 
T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 


WhoopieKat.com
 


  

RE: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[t crook]

Thanks Nic- What does your doctor have you on for your osteoporosis? Good luck 
with that broken leg.
Tim

WhoopieKat.com

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Nichole Rohling  wrote:


From: Nichole Rohling 
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone density
To: "'t crook'" , "quad-l...@eskimo. Com" 

Date: Wednesday, March 3, 2010, 8:32 PM








i don't know my numbers but from my x-ray for my broken tibia the dr says i 
have severe osteoporosisworn my boot cast since dec 7 and have at 
least 4 more weekswill be at least 16 weeks total...c5-6 almost 12 
yrs post and 40 yrs old.
 
nicki
 
-Original Message-
From: t crook [mailto:onemofor...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:03 PM
To: q-list
Subject: [QUAD-L] bone density
 




My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have numbers 
this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with what not 
enough female hormones (ha-ha). 
Thanks-
Tim
 
What your T-score means:

A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are 0.8, 0.2 and 
-0.5. 

A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or osteopenia. 
Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 

A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples are 
T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 


WhoopieKat.com
 


  

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[wheelchair]

Standing therapy and simulated standing therapy is a great way to place  
pressure on the heel, knee and hips. Daily pressure like this goes a long way 
to  prevent and reduce the effects of bone density loss.  Granted, I realize 
 that it is not easy for most, but for those under the direction of a 
physical  therapist, its a great way to tone the bones for pivot transfers.
 
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 3/4/2010 1:37:11 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
daa...@aol.com writes:

 
I don't know what my number is, but I am on a good medication.  I  take 
Forteo injection one time a day, 750 CG.
 
I will be sure and ask next time.
Does anyone else take D3 plus  calcium three times a day.

Dana C4-5, 35 years post, 56, Prairie  Village (suburb of Kansas City, 
passenger in a MVA )

a message  dated 3/3/2010 9:44:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
c5sc...@gmail.com  writes:


tums daily?
Eric W Rudd
_c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) 

- Original Message - 
From:  _Greg_ (mailto:g...@eskimo.com)   
To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:27  PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone  density



I do not recall  what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to take a 
pill once a  week and was told to eat Tums daily. 
My testosterone  was very low too. 
Greg C5  28y 
  

 
My  bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have  
numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year  old male with 
what not enough female hormones (ha-ha).   
Thanks- 
Tim 
What  your T-score means: 
*   A T-score between +1  and -1 is normal bone density.  Examples are 
0.8, 0.2 and -0.5.  
*   A T-score between -1  and -2.5 indicates low bone density  or 
osteopenia.  Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1.  
*   A T-score of -2.5 or  lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis.  
Examples are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9.  


_WhoopieKat.com_ (http://www.whoopiekat.com/)  

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[DAANOO]

 
I don't know what my number is, but I am on a good medication.  I take  
Forteo injection one time a day, 750 CG.
 
I will be sure and ask next time.
Does anyone else take D3 plus calcium  three times a day.

Dana C4-5, 35 years post, 56, Prairie Village (suburb  of Kansas City, 
passenger in a MVA )

a message dated 3/3/2010  9:44:17 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
c5sc...@gmail.com writes:


tums daily?
Eric W Rudd
_c5sc...@gmail.com_ (mailto:c5sc...@gmail.com) 

- Original Message - 
From:  _Greg_ (mailto:g...@eskimo.com)  
To: _quad-l...@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:27  PM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone  density



I do not recall  what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to take a 
pill once a week  and was told to eat Tums daily. 
My testosterone was  very low too. 
Greg C5  28y 
  

 
My  bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have  
numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old  male with 
what not enough female hormones (ha-ha).   
Thanks- 
Tim 
What  your T-score means: 
*   A T-score between +1 and  -1 is normal bone density.  Examples are 
0.8, 0.2 and -0.5.  
*   A T-score between -1 and  -2.5 indicates low bone density  or 
osteopenia.  Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1.  
*   A T-score of -2.5 or  lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis.  
Examples are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9.  


_WhoopieKat.com_ (http://www.whoopiekat.com/)  

Re: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[Eric W Rudd]

tums daily?
Eric W Rudd
c5sc...@gmail.com
  - Original Message - 
  From: Greg 
  To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 9:27 PM
  Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] bone density


  I do not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to take a 
pill once a week and was told to eat Tums daily.

  My testosterone was very low too.

   

  Greg C5 28y

   


--

   

My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have 
numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with 
what not enough female hormones (ha-ha). 

Thanks-

Tim

 

What your T-score means:

  a.. A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are 
0.8, 0.2 and -0.5. 
  a.. A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or 
osteopenia. Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 
  a.. A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. 
Examples are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 


WhoopieKat.com
   

   

RE: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[Greg]

I do not recall what my number was, but mine was low too. I have to take a
pill once a week and was told to eat Tums daily.

My testosterone was very low too.

 

Greg C5 28y

 

  _  

 


My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have
numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with
what not enough female hormones (ha-ha). 

Thanks-

Tim

 

What your T-score means:

*   A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are
0.8, 0.2 and -0.5. 

*   A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or
osteopenia. Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 

*   A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples
are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 



WhoopieKat.com  

 

RE: [QUAD-L] bone density....

[Nichole Rohling]

i don't know my numbers but from my x-ray for my broken tibia the dr says i
have severe osteoporosisworn my boot cast since dec 7 and have
at least 4 more weekswill be at least 16 weeks total...c5-6
almost 12 yrs post and 40 yrs old.

 

nicki

 

-Original Message-
From: t crook [mailto:onemofor...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2010 8:03 PM
To: q-list
Subject: [QUAD-L] bone density

 


My bone density is -4.3; so I have osteoporosis. Does anyone else have
numbers this low?  I am a c5-c6 21 yrs. post; a mere 44 year old male with
what not enough female hormones (ha-ha). 

Thanks-

Tim

 

What your T-score means:

*   A T-score between +1 and -1 is normal bone density. Examples are
0.8, 0.2 and -0.5. 

*   A T-score between -1 and -2.5 indicates low bone density or
osteopenia. Examples are T-scores of -1.2, -1.6 and -2.1. 

*   A T-score of -2.5 or lower is a diagnosis of osteoporosis. Examples
are T-scores of -2.8, -3.3 and -3.9. 



WhoopieKat.com  

 

Re: [QUAD-L] Bone density loss

[Dan T]

Ken, thanks for the feedback in regard to bone density loss.  The FES sounds 
expensive.  Did you have to buy a system?  What is the cost?  Thanks, Dan T.

Ken Gardiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Dan,

Don't go to that doctor again.
Alendronate Sodium has been around for a while and can be effective. 
It's trade name is Fosamax. It is prescribed for women with 
osteoporosis. It's job is to reverse bone density loss. There is no 
reason a male cannot take it. I had a bone desity scan done on my 
legs and hips which showed some signs of bone density loss. After a 
regimen of Fosamax for about 1 year I got another scan and it showed 
improvement. This will work best when combined with weight bearing 
activity. I actually did not use the standing frame as much as I 
should have, but I rode an ERGYS FES bike almost daily that provides 
some weight bearing type activity. There are other drugs out now that 
also may be of use that compete with Fosamax. Talk to your doctor (or 
find one with a clue). I am sure most drugs designed to combat 
osteoporosis would be of use to you even though you are a male. Good 
luck.


On Mar 22, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Dan T wrote:

> Hello, several years back I asked my doctor if there was a 
> medication to treat bone density loss in a male quad and the answer 
> was no. Are there new treatments for bone density loss in a sci 
> person? Thanks, Dan T...

Re: [QUAD-L] Bone density loss

[Ken Gardiner]

Dan,

Don't go to that doctor again.
Alendronate Sodium has been around for a while and can be effective.  
It's trade name is Fosamax. It is prescribed for women with  
osteoporosis. It's job is to reverse bone density loss. There is no  
reason a male cannot take it. I had a bone desity scan done on my  
legs and hips which showed some signs of bone density loss. After a  
regimen of Fosamax for about 1 year I got another scan and it showed  
improvement. This will work best when combined with weight bearing  
activity. I actually did not use the standing frame as much as I  
should have, but I rode an ERGYS FES bike almost daily that provides  
some weight bearing type activity. There are other drugs out now that  
also may be of use that compete with Fosamax. Talk to your doctor (or  
find one with a clue). I am sure most drugs designed to combat  
osteoporosis would be of use to you even though you are a male. Good  
luck.



On Mar 22, 2007, at 8:19 PM, Dan T wrote:

Hello, several years back I asked my doctor if there was a  
medication to treat bone density loss in a male quad and the answer  
was no.  Are there new treatments for bone density loss in a sci  
person?  Thanks, Dan T...