Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
Thanks Joe. You can email Mark Smith-Quantum Manager at Pride Mobility for a direct answer at: _msmith@pridemobility_ (mailto:msmith@pridemobility) . Mark was born with CP and is a Quantum Chair Owner himself. Let us all know. Have you had any direct feed back from the major spinal hospitals like Shepard, Kessler, RIC (chicago) or Craig ? Will CMS fund such an item? Is it coded for CMS? Looking Forward. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 8:10:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, rollg...@gmail.com writes: Thanks everybody for the questions. I'll look into if the joystick handle will void warranties. I'll get back to you within a week. As to the risk to the metal joystick shaft, the handle is of similar risk as most other aftermarket goalpost or U-shaped joystick handles. It is very low profile which minimizes torque on the shaft. -Joe On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, <_gentrier@yahoo.com_ (mailto:gentr...@yahoo.com) > wrote: Hi, he is a c5/6 quadriplegic for 21 yrs...yes he has spasms. I'm not concerned with avoiding anything. The chair and joy stick are 10 years old. It's a good question if your chair is still under warranty, though. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:34 PM, _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) wrote: Thanks. I was waiting for someone who had one. Does your husband have any major spasms? Did you ask the manufacturer of the chair if it voided any warranty on the chair or joystick? Thanks Again Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 6:30:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, _gentrier@yahoo.com_ (mailto:gentr...@yahoo.com) writes: My husband has the ergo joystick and if anything there is less pressure applied to the metal stem. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:36 PM, _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) wrote: Very Impressive. Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod too hard. Is it FDA approved too? Thanks for your reply. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, _rollgeek@gmail.com_ (mailto:rollg...@gmail.com) writes: Hey guys, My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and through the larger DME suppliers. Thanks, -Joe http://www.ergojoystick.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
Thanks everybody for the questions. I'll look into if the joystick handle will void warranties. I'll get back to you within a week. As to the risk to the metal joystick shaft, the handle is of similar risk as most other aftermarket goalpost or U-shaped joystick handles. It is very low profile which minimizes torque on the shaft. -Joe On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 7:38 PM, wrote: > Hi, he is a c5/6 quadriplegic for 21 yrs...yes he has spasms. I'm not > concerned with avoiding anything. The chair and joy stick are 10 years old. > It's a good question if your chair is still under warranty, though. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:34 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks. I was waiting for someone who had one. Does your husband have > any major spasms? > Did you ask the manufacturer of the chair if it voided any warranty on the > chair or joystick? > Thanks Again > > Best Wishes > > In a message dated 1/21/2014 6:30:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, > gentr...@yahoo.com writes: > > My husband has the ergo joystick and if anything there is less pressure > applied to the metal stem. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:36 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: > > Very Impressive. > > Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see > where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue > pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed > a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, > thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they > push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where > a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering > rod too hard. > Is it FDA approved too? > Thanks for your reply. > Best Wishes > > In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, > rollg...@gmail.com writes: > > Hey guys, > My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via > PayPal invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. > I'm working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and > through the larger DME suppliers. > Thanks, > -Joe > http://www.ergojoystick.com/ > https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle > >
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
Hi, he is a c5/6 quadriplegic for 21 yrs...yes he has spasms. I'm not concerned with avoiding anything. The chair and joy stick are 10 years old. It's a good question if your chair is still under warranty, though. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2014, at 6:34 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: > > Thanks. I was waiting for someone who had one. Does your husband have any > major spasms? > Did you ask the manufacturer of the chair if it voided any warranty on the > chair or joystick? > Thanks Again > > Best Wishes > > In a message dated 1/21/2014 6:30:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, > gentr...@yahoo.com writes: > My husband has the ergo joystick and if anything there is less pressure > applied to the metal stem. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:36 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: >> >> Very Impressive. >> >> Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see >> where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue >> pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed >> a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, >> thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they >> push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where >> a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod >> too hard. >> Is it FDA approved too? >> Thanks for your reply. >> Best Wishes >> >> In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, >> rollg...@gmail.com writes: >> Hey guys, >> My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal >> invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm >> working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and >> through the larger DME suppliers. >> Thanks, >> -Joe >> http://www.ergojoystick.com/ >> https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
Thanks. I was waiting for someone who had one. Does your husband have any major spasms? Did you ask the manufacturer of the chair if it voided any warranty on the chair or joystick? Thanks Again Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 6:30:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, gentr...@yahoo.com writes: My husband has the ergo joystick and if anything there is less pressure applied to the metal stem. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:36 PM, _wheelchair@aol.com_ (mailto:wheelch...@aol.com) wrote: Very Impressive. Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod too hard. Is it FDA approved too? Thanks for your reply. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, _rollgeek@gmail.com_ (mailto:rollg...@gmail.com) writes: Hey guys, My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and through the larger DME suppliers. Thanks, -Joe http://www.ergojoystick.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
My husband has the ergo joystick and if anything there is less pressure applied to the metal stem. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 21, 2014, at 1:36 PM, wheelch...@aol.com wrote: > > Very Impressive. > > Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see > where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue > pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a > few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, > thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they > push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a > person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod > too hard. > Is it FDA approved too? > Thanks for your reply. > Best Wishes > > In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, > rollg...@gmail.com writes: > Hey guys, > My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal > invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm working > on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and through the > larger DME suppliers. > Thanks, > -Joe > http://www.ergojoystick.com/ > https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
Thanks Ron. So you know what I've referring to. Now I've also seen modified "T" handles made of 1/2 inch pvc. They looked similar to a football goal post. But those were engineered "in-house" at rehab hospitals with their own Assistive Technology Centers and Certified Techs. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 2:45:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: you are correct wheelchair. when you put a different handle on the controller of the chair, you are also changing how much torque is being put on the unit itself. I was going to put a gear shift knob on mine but realized the torque differences could break high priced parts. ron n the controllerFrom: "wheelch...@aol.com" To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale Good Suggestion Ron. Let me use this as an example... using a shower valve. Shower valves, are available with Knobs or Levers. The knob offers its user equal leverage in controlling the action of the valve. A lever does the same thing, but using more leverage and if over used, can damage the action of the shower valve. Its a lot more difficult to break a knob on a shower valve, than a lever. Same could be said with a joystick assy. A simple joystick may cost $1000 to replace. A complex joystick can cost thousands, depending on its actions. The joystick handle, is not the part I'm concerned with. The metal stud that projects from the joystick is attached to a series of copper rings inside the joystick. They can be damaged by over torque with extreme leverage. I hope that I've explained myself properly. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 1:46:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: it looks like it would work to me. doesn't appear to be heavy. in the event it would break your power chair knob just put your old goalpost back on and keep your mouth shut when getting warranty work done ron From: "wheelch...@aol.com" To: rollg...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale Very Impressive. Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod too hard. Is it FDA approved too? Thanks for your reply. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, rollg...@gmail.com writes: Hey guys, My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and through the larger DME suppliers. Thanks, -Joe http://www.ergojoystick.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
you are correct wheelchair. when you put a different handle on the controller of the chair, you are also changing how much torque is being put on the unit itself. I was going to put a gear shift knob on mine but realized the torque differences could break high priced parts. ron n the controllerFrom: "wheelch...@aol.com" To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale Good Suggestion Ron. Let me use this as an example... using a shower valve. Shower valves, are available with Knobs or Levers. The knob offers its user equal leverage in controlling the action of the valve. A lever does the same thing, but using more leverage and if over used, can damage the action of the shower valve. Its a lot more difficult to break a knob on a shower valve, than a lever. Same could be said with a joystick assy. A simple joystick may cost $1000 to replace. A complex joystick can cost thousands, depending on its actions. The joystick handle, is not the part I'm concerned with. The metal stud that projects from the joystick is attached to a series of copper rings inside the joystick. They can be damaged by over torque with extreme leverage. I hope that I've explained myself properly. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 1:46:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: it looks like it would work to me. doesn't appear to be heavy. in the event it would break your power chair knob just put your old goalpost back on and keep your mouth shut when getting warranty work done > > >ron > > >From: "wheelch...@aol.com" >To: rollg...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com >Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:36 PM >Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale > > > >Very Impressive. > >Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see >where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue >pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a >few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, >thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they >push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a >person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod >too hard. >Is it FDA approved too? >Thanks for your reply. >Best Wishes > >In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, >rollg...@gmail.com writes: >Hey guys, >>My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal >>invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm >>working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and >>through the larger DME suppliers. >>Thanks, >>-Joe >>http://www.ergojoystick.com/ >> >>https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle > >
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
Good Suggestion Ron. Let me use this as an example... using a shower valve. Shower valves, are available with Knobs or Levers. The knob offers its user equal leverage in controlling the action of the valve. A lever does the same thing, but using more leverage and if over used, can damage the action of the shower valve. Its a lot more difficult to break a knob on a shower valve, than a lever. Same could be said with a joystick assy. A simple joystick may cost $1000 to replace. A complex joystick can cost thousands, depending on its actions. The joystick handle, is not the part I'm concerned with. The metal stud that projects from the joystick is attached to a series of copper rings inside the joystick. They can be damaged by over torque with extreme leverage. I hope that I've explained myself properly. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 1:46:27 P.M. Central Standard Time, r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes: it looks like it would work to me. doesn't appear to be heavy. in the event it would break your power chair knob just put your old goalpost back on and keep your mouth shut when getting warranty work done ron From: "wheelch...@aol.com" To: rollg...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale Very Impressive. Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod too hard. Is it FDA approved too? Thanks for your reply. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, rollg...@gmail.com writes: Hey guys, My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and through the larger DME suppliers. Thanks, -Joe http://www.ergojoystick.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
It is about as high risk as any other joystick handle. They are considered an FDA class 1 medical device and require no prior market authorization. On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 2:46 PM, RONALD L PRACHT wrote: > it looks like it would work to me. doesn't appear to be heavy. in the > event it would break your power chair knob just put your old goalpost back > on and keep your mouth shut when getting warranty work done > > ron > *From:* "wheelch...@aol.com" > *To:* rollg...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:36 PM > *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale > > Very Impressive. > > Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see > where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue > pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed > a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, > thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they > push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where > a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering > rod too hard. > Is it FDA approved too? > Thanks for your reply. > Best Wishes > > In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, > rollg...@gmail.com writes: > > Hey guys, > My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via > PayPal invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. > I'm working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and > through the larger DME suppliers. > Thanks, > -Joe > http://www.ergojoystick.com/ > https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle > > > >
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
it looks like it would work to me. doesn't appear to be heavy. in the event it would break your power chair knob just put your old goalpost back on and keep your mouth shut when getting warranty work done ron From: "wheelch...@aol.com" To: rollg...@gmail.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 1:36 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale Very Impressive. Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod too hard. Is it FDA approved too? Thanks for your reply. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, rollg...@gmail.com writes: Hey guys, >My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal >invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm working > on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and through the >larger DME suppliers. >Thanks, >-Joe >http://www.ergojoystick.com/ > >https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
Re: [QUAD-L] Ergojoystick is for sale
Very Impressive. Do manufactures void warranties on joystick when it is used? I could see where such a device could place undue stress on the metal rod, hence, undue pressure on the electric contacts within the joystick case. I've witnessed a few example of seniors being exposed to mobility chairs late in life, thinking the joystick is the gas pedal of their chairs and they harder they push the faster in one direction they will travel. Also in cases where a person using a complex rehab chair with spasms could push the steering rod too hard. Is it FDA approved too? Thanks for your reply. Best Wishes In a message dated 1/21/2014 12:45:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, rollg...@gmail.com writes: Hey guys, My wheelchair joystick handle is now for sale direct to customers via PayPal invoices. If your clients are interested, have them contact me. I'm working on getting them available on power wheelchair order forms and through the larger DME suppliers. Thanks, -Joe http://www.ergojoystick.com/ https://www.facebook.com/ergojoystickhandle
