Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Shala Silverstein]

Lissette, also senokot ass has helped me wonders, it's a laxative with a
stimulant so you better be by a toilet after 12 hours! It has the push
behind it to help you go! My doctor told me to try this after 20 years of
doing it by myself! Wtf!

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 6:06 PM Lissette Whitehead 
wrote:

> Sorry, I meant to reply to Shala but thanks for your input Carla! 
>
> Lissette Whitehead
> (949)505-8005
> --
> *From:* Lissette Whitehead 
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:03:26 PM
> *To:* Carla Aarssen ; Shala Silverstein <
> chopsk...@gmail.com>; quad-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If
> not just send it back. Thanks.
>
> Hello Carla, I recently discovered that I have hemorrhoids as well, I
> guess from so much constipation and didge shimming. I also noticed
> increased spasms, especially when I’m in bed, it’s not too bad, it’s
> usually just when I first lay down and then they calm down. I think my
> mattress helps a lot, it’s a gel mattress, however I do have a big butt
> which probably helps too. I can’t sleep on my side because my shoulders
> start hurting after 15-20 minutes, so I sleep on my back all night. I’ve
> tried hemorrhoid creams but didn’t help much. I read that taking an
> anti-inflammatory could help, I haven’t tried it yet but I think the best
> thing to do is to address the hemorrhoids. I think also fiber rich diet
> might help. Also, not sure if the hemorrhoids are obstructing my bowels
> from coming out, because I've been having the hardest time lately. Maybe
> seeing a doctor for the hemorrhoid issue it's not a bad idea.
>
> Lissette Whitehead
> (949)505-8005
> --
> *From:* Carla Aarssen 
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2022 10:02:23 AM
> *To:* Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com <
> quad-list@eskimo.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If
> not just send it back. Thanks.
>
> Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving
> pressure. Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a pressure
> sore I set it to alternate and it will move air side to side kind of like
> you are doing with pillow but more often and while you sleep.
> I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having
> them banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off
> within 4 days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so he
> finally referred me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at the
> beginning of Covid unfortunately I am still on waiting list for surgery.
> Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so almost
> as many years post injury as well. If you would like to share with
> eachother my email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me on
> Facebook.
> Wishing you all the best!
> Carla Aarssen
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> --
> *From:* Shala Silverstein 
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not
> just send it back. Thanks.
>
> Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a
> complete C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the
> road but nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are
> taking a toll on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some
> experienced advice. That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm
> sure most quads will understand when I say that bowel movements can be
> tough, we need assistance. I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", &
> manual disimpaction. Well after doing things this way for usually 5 days
> out of the week, I've ended up with some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime
> comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not only because of the hemorrhoids
> but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 years I've used a pregnancy
> pillow, and to keep me over on my side I'll use a wedge or a regular
> pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back because of either
> the pillow or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts all over
> again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and has
> a better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking
> forward to any advice, Shala.
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Shala Silverstein]

Hello Lissette!! Thanks for your advice! Well my butt isn't that big, with
all the atrophy, it's pretty much just bones! Oh how I miss my old ass!!
{RIP LOL!} Anyways, you lay flat on your back all night?? You don't use
anything to get off your backside? I have been alternating with a wedge and
a pillow and yes it kills my shoulders! I sat in a donut for a few years &
my doc said that could have contributed to my roids .. what state are you
writing from? Much appreciated advice, Shala

On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 6:03 PM Lissette Whitehead 
wrote:

> Hello Carla, I recently discovered that I have hemorrhoids as well, I
> guess from so much constipation and didge shimming. I also noticed
> increased spasms, especially when I’m in bed, it’s not too bad, it’s
> usually just when I first lay down and then they calm down. I think my
> mattress helps a lot, it’s a gel mattress, however I do have a big butt
> which probably helps too. I can’t sleep on my side because my shoulders
> start hurting after 15-20 minutes, so I sleep on my back all night. I’ve
> tried hemorrhoid creams but didn’t help much. I read that taking an
> anti-inflammatory could help, I haven’t tried it yet but I think the best
> thing to do is to address the hemorrhoids. I think also fiber rich diet
> might help. Also, not sure if the hemorrhoids are obstructing my bowels
> from coming out, because I've been having the hardest time lately. Maybe
> seeing a doctor for the hemorrhoid issue it's not a bad idea.
>
> Lissette Whitehead
> (949)505-8005
> --
> *From:* Carla Aarssen 
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2022 10:02:23 AM
> *To:* Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com <
> quad-list@eskimo.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If
> not just send it back. Thanks.
>
> Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving
> pressure. Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a pressure
> sore I set it to alternate and it will move air side to side kind of like
> you are doing with pillow but more often and while you sleep.
> I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having
> them banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off
> within 4 days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so he
> finally referred me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at the
> beginning of Covid unfortunately I am still on waiting list for surgery.
> Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so almost
> as many years post injury as well. If you would like to share with
> eachother my email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me on
> Facebook.
> Wishing you all the best!
> Carla Aarssen
>
> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
> --
> *From:* Shala Silverstein 
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
> *To:* quad-list@eskimo.com 
> *Subject:* [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not
> just send it back. Thanks.
>
> Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a
> complete C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the
> road but nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are
> taking a toll on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some
> experienced advice. That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm
> sure most quads will understand when I say that bowel movements can be
> tough, we need assistance. I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", &
> manual disimpaction. Well after doing things this way for usually 5 days
> out of the week, I've ended up with some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime
> comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not only because of the hemorrhoids
> but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 years I've used a pregnancy
> pillow, and to keep me over on my side I'll use a wedge or a regular
> pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back because of either
> the pillow or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts all over
> again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and has
> a better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking
> forward to any advice, Shala.
>

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[wheelsdw]

Hi,
I have been c/5 since 1996. i've been through the awful "hemmy" years. I 
dreaded bowel days which were every other day. I tried dozens of things 
to help with hemmys. I ended up having surgery to cut them off. And I 
started drinking Mirlax to soften stool. Then use magic bullets & 
Enemezz(sp?) .
I had to strict diet, watch what I ate & when. Couple years ago, i got 
sore by cocyx area. I ended up getting colostomy operation. Wow, what 
relief of doing bowel care.
I got an air mattress and roho air cushion to deal with sores. You can 
get air mattress on Amazon way cheaper than medical supply dealer.


I did get lot pain from laying on my side even on air mattress. I have 
to take pain meds.


There is some cushions that have cocyx are cut out. There alternating 
cushions too. expensive.
I tried different donuts cushions. I would love to develop a cushion to 
keep your scrotum are from touching anything. lay on memory foam with 
cutout. or cushion with cut out.

derrick in getting cold PA


On 10/2/22 1:02 PM, Carla Aarssen wrote:
Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving 
pressure. Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a 
pressure sore I set it to alternate and it will move air side to side 
kind of like you are doing with pillow but more often and while you sleep.
I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having 
them banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall 
off within 4 days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so 
he finally referred me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at 
the beginning of Covid unfortunately I am still on waiting list for 
surgery.
Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so 
almost as many years post injury as well. If you would like to share 
with eachother my email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me 
on Facebook.

Wishing you all the best!
Carla Aarssen

Get Outlook for Android 

*From:* Shala Silverstein 
*Sent:* Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
*To:* quad-list@eskimo.com 
*Subject:* [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If 
not just send it back. Thanks.
Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a 
complete C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in 
the road but nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some 
things are taking a toll on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am 
looking for some experienced advice. That being said let me tell you 
about my situation, I'm sure most quads will understand when I say 
that bowel movements can be tough, we need assistance. I've heard it 
referred to as "ditch stem", & manual disimpaction. Well after doing 
things this way for usually 5 days out of the week, I've ended up with 
some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable to lay flat on my 
back not only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my bony 
coccyx. For the last 10 years I've used a pregnancy pillow, and to 
keep me over on my side I'll use a wedge or a regular pillow. After 2 
hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back because of either the pillow 
or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts all over again. I'm 
wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and has a 
better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking 
forward to any advice, Shala.

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Danny Hearn]

 I'm looking into getting an air mattress.Do any of you know of a good type 
or kind to buy?? thanks, Dan H***
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 10:02:26 PM CDT, Val Cleroux 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Shala:
I am a C5/6 quad due to a motor vehicle accident in 2000...I had hemorrhoids 
that were bleeding all the time as I also lay on my back.  I am unable to turn 
on my left side and do all my bowel treatments on my right side however, I 
sleep on my back and never get turned. I purchased an air mattress which solved 
my hemorrhoid problem because it allowed me to have air circulation.   
Val Clerouxwww.whyped.ca "Communication is the key to success"   

On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 12:29:02 a.m. EDT, Shala Silverstein 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a complete 
C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the road but 
nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are taking a toll 
on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some experienced advice. 
That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm sure most quads will 
understand when I say that bowel movements can be tough, we need assistance. 
I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", & manual disimpaction. Well after 
doing things this way for usually 5 days out of the week, I've ended up with 
some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not 
only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 
years I've used a pregnancy pillow, and to keep me over on my side I'll use a 
wedge or a regular pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back 
because of either the pillow or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts 
all over again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and 
has a better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking 
forward to any advice, Shala.

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Val Cleroux]

Hi Shala:
I am a C5/6 quad due to a motor vehicle accident in 2000...I had hemorrhoids 
that were bleeding all the time as I also lay on my back.  I am unable to turn 
on my left side and do all my bowel treatments on my right side however, I 
sleep on my back and never get turned. I purchased an air mattress which solved 
my hemorrhoid problem because it allowed me to have air circulation.   
Val Clerouxwww.whyped.ca "Communication is the key to success"   

On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 12:29:02 a.m. EDT, Shala Silverstein 
 wrote:  
 
 Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a complete 
C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the road but 
nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are taking a toll 
on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some experienced advice. 
That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm sure most quads will 
understand when I say that bowel movements can be tough, we need assistance. 
I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", & manual disimpaction. Well after 
doing things this way for usually 5 days out of the week, I've ended up with 
some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not 
only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 
years I've used a pregnancy pillow, and to keep me over on my side I'll use a 
wedge or a regular pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back 
because of either the pillow or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts 
all over again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and 
has a better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking 
forward to any advice, Shala.  

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Lissette Whitehead]

Thanks for the input Paul. I’ve never heard of banding but my hemorrhoids are 
on the inside, they don’t really hang. They poke out a little bit every now and 
then but I don’t think banding would work for me. If they do get worse I 
probably will look into surgery. They say soaking them helps too which I 
haven’t tried much but I probably will.

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005

From: Paul Jacobson 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 4:07:12 PM
To: Danny Hearn ; Carla Aarssen ; 
Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
; Lissette Whitehead 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Hi Lissette,

I am exactly like youhemorrhoids, back sleeper and spasms when I first lay 
down.
I am in tons of discomfort during the BP.  It always takes me 2 – 3 hours to 
feel
better.  After the BP, it always feels like I still have to go but that 
resolves.

I take Miralax every other day, Benifiber each day, D-Mannose  each day and 
fiber
pills each day. Stay away from using creams for prolonged use, as this can thin 
the
skin, which would make matters worse.

I did look into hemorrhoid banding but decided to pass.  This could be a 
solution.

Wish you well,
pj

From: Danny Hearn
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:37 PM
To: Carla Aarssen ; Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Lissette 
Whitehead
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

The method used to help clear bowels is Digital Stimulation, True most Quads 
get hemorrhoids, some need to get them treated or removedso far I have been 
okay with  creams when they get bad. AS far as the problem when doing bowel 
routine...many Quads told me that Miralax can really help and can be taken 
regularly if needed, also was told fiber can help . Dan ***

On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 05:06:21 PM CDT, Lissette Whitehead 
 wrote:


Sorry, I meant to reply to Shala but thanks for your input Carla! 

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005

From: Lissette Whitehead 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:03:26 PM
To: Carla Aarssen ; Shala Silverstein 
; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Hello Carla, I recently discovered that I have hemorrhoids as well, I guess 
from so much constipation and didge shimming. I also noticed increased spasms, 
especially when I’m in bed, it’s not too bad, it’s usually just when I first 
lay down and then they calm down. I think my mattress helps a lot, it’s a gel 
mattress, however I do have a big butt which probably helps too. I can’t sleep 
on my side because my shoulders start hurting after 15-20 minutes, so I sleep 
on my back all night. I’ve tried hemorrhoid creams but didn’t help much. I read 
that taking an anti-inflammatory could help, I haven’t tried it yet but I think 
the best thing to do is to address the hemorrhoids. I think also fiber rich 
diet might help. Also, not sure if the hemorrhoids are obstructing my bowels 
from coming out, because I've been having the hardest time lately. Maybe seeing 
a doctor for the hemorrhoid issue it's not a bad idea.

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005

From: Carla Aarssen 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 10:02:23 AM
To: Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving pressure. 
Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a pressure sore I set it to 
alternate and it will move air side to side kind of like you are doing with 
pillow but more often and while you sleep.
I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having them 
banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off within 4 
days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so he finally referred 
me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at the beginning of Covid 
unfortunately I am still on waiting list for surgery.
Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so almost as 
many years post injury as well. If you would like to share with eachother my 
email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me on Facebook.
Wishing you all the best!
Carla Aarssen

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

From: Shala Silverstein 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a complete 
C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the road but 
nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are taking a toll 
on my body & I've come to a cros

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Paul Jacobson]

Hi Lissette, 

I am exactly like youhemorrhoids, back sleeper and spasms when I first lay 
down.  
I am in tons of discomfort during the BP.  It always takes me 2 – 3 hours to 
feel 
better.  After the BP, it always feels like I still have to go but that 
resolves.

I take Miralax every other day, Benifiber each day, D-Mannose  each day and 
fiber 
pills each day. Stay away from using creams for prolonged use, as this can thin 
the
skin, which would make matters worse.

I did look into hemorrhoid banding but decided to pass.  This could be a 
solution.

Wish you well,
pj

From: Danny Hearn 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:37 PM
To: Carla Aarssen ; Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com ; Lissette 
Whitehead 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

The method used to help clear bowels is Digital Stimulation, True most Quads 
get hemorrhoids, some need to get them treated or removedso far I have been 
okay with  creams when they get bad. AS far as the problem when doing bowel 
routine...many Quads told me that Miralax can really help and can be taken 
regularly if needed, also was told fiber can help . Dan ***

On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 05:06:21 PM CDT, Lissette Whitehead 
 wrote: 


Sorry, I meant to reply to Shala but thanks for your input Carla!  

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005



From: Lissette Whitehead 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:03:26 PM
To: Carla Aarssen ; Shala Silverstein 
; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks. 

Hello Carla, I recently discovered that I have hemorrhoids as well, I guess 
from so much constipation and didge shimming. I also noticed increased spasms, 
especially when I’m in bed, it’s not too bad, it’s usually just when I first 
lay down and then they calm down. I think my mattress helps a lot, it’s a gel 
mattress, however I do have a big butt which probably helps too. I can’t sleep 
on my side because my shoulders start hurting after 15-20 minutes, so I sleep 
on my back all night. I’ve tried hemorrhoid creams but didn’t help much. I read 
that taking an anti-inflammatory could help, I haven’t tried it yet but I think 
the best thing to do is to address the hemorrhoids. I think also fiber rich 
diet might help. Also, not sure if the hemorrhoids are obstructing my bowels 
from coming out, because I've been having the hardest time lately. Maybe seeing 
a doctor for the hemorrhoid issue it's not a bad idea.

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005



From: Carla Aarssen 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 10:02:23 AM
To: Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks. 

Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving pressure. 
Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a pressure sore I set it to 
alternate and it will move air side to side kind of like you are doing with 
pillow but more often and while you sleep.
I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having them 
banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off within 4 
days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so he finally referred 
me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at the beginning of Covid 
unfortunately I am still on waiting list for surgery. 
Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so almost as 
many years post injury as well. If you would like to share with eachother my 
email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me on Facebook.
Wishing you all the best!
Carla Aarssen

Get Outlook for Android



From: Shala Silverstein 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks. 

Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a complete 
C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the road but 
nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are taking a toll 
on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some experienced advice. 
That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm sure most quads will 
understand when I say that bowel movements can be tough, we need assistance. 
I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", & manual disimpaction. Well after 
doing things this way for usually 5 days out of the week, I've ended up with 
some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not 
only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 
year

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Danny Hearn]

 The method used to help clear bowels is Digital Stimulation, True most Quads 
get hemorrhoids, some need to get them treated or removedso far I have been 
okay with  creams when they get bad. AS far as the problem when doing bowel 
routine...many Quads told me that Miralax can really help and can be taken 
regularly if needed, also was told fiber can help . Dan ***
On Sunday, October 2, 2022 at 05:06:21 PM CDT, Lissette Whitehead 
 wrote:  
 
 Sorry, I meant to reply to Shala but thanks for your input Carla!  
Lissette Whitehead(949)505-8005From: Lissette Whitehead 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:03:26 PM
To: Carla Aarssen ; Shala Silverstein 
; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks. Hello Carla, I recently discovered that I have 
hemorrhoids as well, I guess from so much constipation and didge shimming. I 
also noticed increased spasms, especially when I’m in bed, it’s not too bad, 
it’s usually just when I first lay down and then they calm down. I think my 
mattress helps a lot, it’s a gel mattress, however I do have a big butt which 
probably helps too. I can’t sleep on my side because my shoulders start hurting 
after 15-20 minutes, so I sleep on my back all night. I’ve tried hemorrhoid 
creams but didn’t help much. I read that taking an anti-inflammatory could 
help, I haven’t tried it yet but I think the best thing to do is to address the 
hemorrhoids. I think also fiber rich diet might help. Also, not sure if the 
hemorrhoids are obstructing my bowels from coming out, because I've been having 
the hardest time lately. Maybe seeing a doctor for the hemorrhoid issue it's 
not a bad idea.
Lissette Whitehead(949)505-8005From: Carla Aarssen 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 10:02:23 AM
To: Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks. Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for 
relieving pressure. Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a 
pressure sore I set it to alternate and it will move air side to side kind of 
like you are doing with pillow but more often and while you sleep.I also have 
issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having them banded (rubber 
bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off within 4 days. But Dr 
told me we would never get ahead this way so he finally referred me to a 
surgeon to have them removed. That was at the beginning of Covid unfortunately 
I am still on waiting list for surgery. Anyway I am same level quad as you and 
my accident was in 2002 so almost as many years post injury as well. If you 
would like to share with eachother my email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can 
also find me on Facebook.Wishing you all the best!Carla Aarssen
Get Outlook for AndroidFrom: Shala Silverstein 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks. Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 
that left me a complete C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple 
bumps in the road but nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some 
things are taking a toll on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for 
some experienced advice. That being said let me tell you about my situation, 
I'm sure most quads will understand when I say that bowel movements can be 
tough, we need assistance. I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", & manual 
disimpaction. Well after doing things this way for usually 5 days out of the 
week, I've ended up with some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable 
to lay flat on my back not only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my 
bony coccyx. For the last 10 years I've used a pregnancy pillow, and to keep me 
over on my side I'll use a wedge or a regular pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken 
in such pain in my back because of either the pillow or the wedge, so I will 
switch sides and it starts all over again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals 
with these two problems and has a better way of staying off their coccyx and 
their butt area. Looking forward to any advice, Shala.  

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Lissette Whitehead]

Sorry, I meant to reply to Shala but thanks for your input Carla! 

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005

From: Lissette Whitehead 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 3:03:26 PM
To: Carla Aarssen ; Shala Silverstein 
; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Hello Carla, I recently discovered that I have hemorrhoids as well, I guess 
from so much constipation and didge shimming. I also noticed increased spasms, 
especially when I’m in bed, it’s not too bad, it’s usually just when I first 
lay down and then they calm down. I think my mattress helps a lot, it’s a gel 
mattress, however I do have a big butt which probably helps too. I can’t sleep 
on my side because my shoulders start hurting after 15-20 minutes, so I sleep 
on my back all night. I’ve tried hemorrhoid creams but didn’t help much. I read 
that taking an anti-inflammatory could help, I haven’t tried it yet but I think 
the best thing to do is to address the hemorrhoids. I think also fiber rich 
diet might help. Also, not sure if the hemorrhoids are obstructing my bowels 
from coming out, because I've been having the hardest time lately. Maybe seeing 
a doctor for the hemorrhoid issue it's not a bad idea.

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005

From: Carla Aarssen 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 10:02:23 AM
To: Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving pressure. 
Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a pressure sore I set it to 
alternate and it will move air side to side kind of like you are doing with 
pillow but more often and while you sleep.
I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having them 
banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off within 4 
days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so he finally referred 
me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at the beginning of Covid 
unfortunately I am still on waiting list for surgery.
Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so almost as 
many years post injury as well. If you would like to share with eachother my 
email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me on Facebook.
Wishing you all the best!
Carla Aarssen

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From: Shala Silverstein 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a complete 
C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the road but 
nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are taking a toll 
on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some experienced advice. 
That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm sure most quads will 
understand when I say that bowel movements can be tough, we need assistance. 
I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", & manual disimpaction. Well after 
doing things this way for usually 5 days out of the week, I've ended up with 
some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not 
only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 
years I've used a pregnancy pillow, and to keep me over on my side I'll use a 
wedge or a regular pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back 
because of either the pillow or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts 
all over again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and 
has a better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking 
forward to any advice, Shala.

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Lissette Whitehead]

Hello Carla, I recently discovered that I have hemorrhoids as well, I guess 
from so much constipation and didge shimming. I also noticed increased spasms, 
especially when I’m in bed, it’s not too bad, it’s usually just when I first 
lay down and then they calm down. I think my mattress helps a lot, it’s a gel 
mattress, however I do have a big butt which probably helps too. I can’t sleep 
on my side because my shoulders start hurting after 15-20 minutes, so I sleep 
on my back all night. I’ve tried hemorrhoid creams but didn’t help much. I read 
that taking an anti-inflammatory could help, I haven’t tried it yet but I think 
the best thing to do is to address the hemorrhoids. I think also fiber rich 
diet might help. Also, not sure if the hemorrhoids are obstructing my bowels 
from coming out, because I've been having the hardest time lately. Maybe seeing 
a doctor for the hemorrhoid issue it's not a bad idea.

Lissette Whitehead
(949)505-8005

From: Carla Aarssen 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 10:02:23 AM
To: Shala Silverstein ; quad-list@eskimo.com 

Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving pressure. 
Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a pressure sore I set it to 
alternate and it will move air side to side kind of like you are doing with 
pillow but more often and while you sleep.
I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having them 
banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off within 4 
days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so he finally referred 
me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at the beginning of Covid 
unfortunately I am still on waiting list for surgery.
Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so almost as 
many years post injury as well. If you would like to share with eachother my 
email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me on Facebook.
Wishing you all the best!
Carla Aarssen

Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>

From: Shala Silverstein 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a complete 
C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the road but 
nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are taking a toll 
on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some experienced advice. 
That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm sure most quads will 
understand when I say that bowel movements can be tough, we need assistance. 
I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", & manual disimpaction. Well after 
doing things this way for usually 5 days out of the week, I've ended up with 
some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not 
only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 
years I've used a pregnancy pillow, and to keep me over on my side I'll use a 
wedge or a regular pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back 
because of either the pillow or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts 
all over again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and 
has a better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking 
forward to any advice, Shala.

Re: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just send it back. Thanks.

[Carla Aarssen]

Do you have an air mattress? Because they are awesome for relieving pressure. 
Most of the time I set mine to float but if I have a pressure sore I set it to 
alternate and it will move air side to side kind of like you are doing with 
pillow but more often and while you sleep.
I also have issues with hemorrhoids I spent 4yrs every 3 months having them 
banded (rubber bands caught off blood supply) and they would fall off within 4 
days. But Dr told me we would never get ahead this way so he finally referred 
me to a surgeon to have them removed. That was at the beginning of Covid 
unfortunately I am still on waiting list for surgery.
Anyway I am same level quad as you and my accident was in 2002 so almost as 
many years post injury as well. If you would like to share with eachother my 
email is caars...@hotmail.com. You can also find me on Facebook.
Wishing you all the best!
Carla Aarssen

Get Outlook for Android

From: Shala Silverstein 
Sent: Sunday, October 2, 2022 12:28:47 AM
To: quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: [QUAD-L] Fingers crossed that I'm doing this properly. If not just 
send it back. Thanks.

Hello my name is Shala & I had a car accident in 1999 that left me a complete 
C-4,5 & 6 quadriplegic. Since then I've had a couple bumps in the road but 
nothing major. Now almost 24 years later, I think some things are taking a toll 
on my body & I've come to a crossroad & am looking for some experienced advice. 
That being said let me tell you about my situation, I'm sure most quads will 
understand when I say that bowel movements can be tough, we need assistance. 
I've heard it referred to as "ditch stem", & manual disimpaction. Well after 
doing things this way for usually 5 days out of the week, I've ended up with 
some hemorrhoids. So when nighttime comes I'm unable to lay flat on my back not 
only because of the hemorrhoids but because of my bony coccyx. For the last 10 
years I've used a pregnancy pillow, and to keep me over on my side I'll use a 
wedge or a regular pillow. After 2 hours I'm awoken in such pain in my back 
because of either the pillow or the wedge, so I will switch sides and it starts 
all over again. I'm wondering if anybody else deals with these two problems and 
has a better way of staying off their coccyx and their butt area. Looking 
forward to any advice, Shala.

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[Rene Bullard]

RON, 
  MY SON IS A C 6-7 AND WE DID WHAT THE SAID TO DO AT HOSPITAL, GO T TO REHAB 
AND THERE AFTER SAID STR AT WAS BEST BECAUSE SOME GET FINGERS BACK SOME TIME 
DOWN THE ROAD.. 
We are in 3 yr now  and none yet.. good luck

Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[wheelchair]

Ron, FES is used early on to keep the nerves active while it stimulates the 
 muscles.  Granted, its not for everyone, but worth trying if you body  
responds using a TENS unit.  A physical therapist can be most helpful with  
this process.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/22/2013 12:44:46 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
Wheelchair,
 
1 havent ever done the electric stem on my hands. I  swam for over ten 
years and lifted weights and I believe that i got all the  possible return 
back i could have. Would of loved to have tried more electric  stem if I had 
the chance though.
 
ron c7
 
  

 From: wheelch...@aol.com  wheelch...@aol.com
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent:  Mon, January 21, 2013 12:40:29 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  fingers

Ron, have you tried FES  (electric stim) on your hands and  fingers?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2013 12:11:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
i was told in rehab if i wanted to keep my tenodesis grip(curled  
fingers)...the key was not to stretch them out. I didnt listen and stretched  
them 
out during transfers and such, so mine are are straight now with lil  movement 
since Im a c7 its hard to say which is better, maybe curled are  more 
functional for gripping certain things but I can do other things better  with 
them open and they present more natural
 
ron c7


 

 From: Theo Kyparissis  kypar...@hol.gr
To:  Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 10:07:12  AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  fingers


Does  anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others  are curled and stiff?  
Theo   
 
 
From: Joan Anglin  [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013  17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  fingers

It  has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not 
curled  up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other 
than  getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at 
all  in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know 
that I  am too old to be a viable candidate for any form of treatment which 
requires  trials and cetera. At least this way I will never have to look for a 
seat  anywhere I go! J  Have a great day everyone. Joan 
 
 
From: donald scott  [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013  5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  fingers

 
 
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs  out and on my left 
hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so  I have a little pinch 
when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can  drive, write, ps2 with 
handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more.  If your thinking about a 
cure for later don't worry they will make your  hands open again. I personally 
never think about a cure and could careless  at this point.
 

 
Take care all, Donald
 

 
 
 
From:  _bobbie299@aol.com_ (mailto:bobbie...@aol.com)  
_bobbie299@aol.com_ (mailto:bobbie...@aol.com) 
To:  _Danny@ImmortalDesigns.co_ (mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) ; 
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)   
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed  like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody 
ever tried to straighten them  out ever. It has been advantage to have them 
curled up and locked … I'm able  to one doors very easily along with any 
other tasks. Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny  Espinoza _Danny@ImmortalDesigns.co_ 
(mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) 
To:  quad-list _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent:  Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was  wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and  locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again 
someday and  was wondering if you guys could give me some information on how 
you 
keep  your fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them 
twice a  day but its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…  

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[greg]

My hands got a bit too tight so I stretched them and then they got too loose.
It was so much harder to hold my cup and open doors when they were loose.
Now I'm mainly trying to get my index fingers and 1 thumb to straighten all the 
way.
They all naturally curl almost first looking, but those 3 fingers just wont 
quite straighten all the way when stretched out.
When slowly stretch open and wrist bent forward all the others can go straight.
I was told to always bend your wrist forward when stretching your fingers.
So that your fingers are always a little tight. It helps with lots of things.
Greg

 I'm sorry but the position your hand was in during your spinal
 injury has nothing to do with your hands curling. Your body
 naturally wants to curl up and twist from atrophy. I promise all
 quads that are c5 or c6 that letting your hands close into a fist
 will be the best thing for you. You will be way more independent
 and be able to do more. Most people think my hands look normal
 until I try to shake hands.

RE: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[Joan Anglin]

It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not curled 
up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other than getting 
partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at all in 22 years. 
I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know that I am too old to 
be a viable candidate for any form of treatment which requires trials and 
cetera. At least this way I will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J 
Have a great day everyone. Joan

 

From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 

I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write, ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking about a cure for later 
don't worry they will make your hands open again. I personally never think 
about a cure and could careless at this point.

 

Take care all, Donald

 

From: bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody ever 
tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to have them curled up 
and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily along with any other tasks.
Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and 
was wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…

RE: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[Theo Kyparissis]

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while others 
are curled and stiff? 

 

Theo 

 

From: Joan Anglin [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

 

It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not curled 
up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other than getting 
partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at all in 22 years. 
I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know that I am too old to 
be a viable candidate for any form of treatment which requires trials and 
cetera. At least this way I will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J 
Have a great day everyone. Joan

 

From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 

I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write, ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking about a cure for later 
don't worry they will make your hands open again. I personally never think 
about a cure and could careless at this point.

 

Take care all, Donald

 

From: bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody ever 
tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to have them curled up 
and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily along with any other tasks.
Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and 
was wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[wheelchair]

nerve transmission damage.  rom, sometimes help, but rarely a  cure.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2013 10:05:49 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
kypar...@hol.gr writes:

 
Does  anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are  curled and stiff?  
Theo   
 
 
From: Joan Anglin  [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013  17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  fingers

It  has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not 
curled  up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other 
than getting  partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at 
all in 22  years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know 
that I am too  old to be a viable candidate for any form of treatment which 
requires trials  and cetera. At least this way I will never have to look for a 
seat anywhere I  go! J  Have a great day everyone. Joan 
 
 
From: donald scott  [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43  PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 
 
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out  and on my left 
hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have  a little pinch 
when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write,  ps2 with 
handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking  about a 
cure for later don't worry they will make your hands open again. I  personally 
never think about a cure and could careless at this  point.
 

 
Take care all, Donald
 

 
 
 
From: _bobbie299@aol.com_ (mailto:bobbie...@aol.com)  
_bobbie299@aol.com_ (mailto:bobbie...@aol.com) 
To: _Danny@ImmortalDesigns.co_ (mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) ; 
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)  
Sent:  Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  fingers

Mine have been locked closed  like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody 
ever tried to straighten them out  ever. It has been advantage to have them 
curled up and locked … I'm able to  one doors very easily along with any 
other tasks. Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny  Espinoza _Danny@ImmortalDesigns.co_ 
(mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) 
To:  quad-list _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent: Sun,  Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering  what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up…  obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again 
someday and was wondering  if you guys could give me some information on how 
you 
keep your fingers in  good health… right now my caregivers stretches them 
twice a day but its only  getting worse and I’m getting worried…  

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[RONALD L PRACHT]

i was told in rehab if i wanted to keep my tenodesis grip(curled fingers)...the 
key was not to stretch them out. I didnt listen and stretched them out during 
transfers and such, so mine are are straight now with lil movement since Im a 
c7 
its hard to say which is better, maybe curled are more functional for gripping 
certain things but I can do other things better with them open and they present 
more natural

ron c7





From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 10:07:12 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while others 
are curled and stiff? 

 
Theo 
 
From:Joan Anglin [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers
 
It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not curled 
up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other than getting 
partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at all in 22 years. 
I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know that I am too old to 
be 
a viable candidate for any form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. 
At least this way I will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! JHave a 
great day everyone. Joan
 
From:donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers
 
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write, ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking about a cure for later 
don't worry they will make your hands open again. I personally never think 
about 
a cure and could careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 
From:bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody ever 
tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to have them curled up 
and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily along with any other tasks.    
Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and 
locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and was 
wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…    

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[wheelchair]

Ron, have you tried FES  (electric stim) on your hands and  fingers?
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2013 12:11:59 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:

 
i was told in rehab if i wanted to keep my tenodesis grip(curled  
fingers)...the key was not to stretch them out. I didnt listen and stretched  
them 
out during transfers and such, so mine are are straight now with lil  movement 
since Im a c7 its hard to say which is better, maybe curled are more  
functional for gripping certain things but I can do other things better with  
them open and they present more natural
 
ron c7


 

 From: Theo Kyparissis  kypar...@hol.gr
To:  Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 10:07:12  AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  fingers


Does  anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are  curled and stiff?  
Theo   
 
 
From: Joan Anglin  [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013  17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  fingers

It  has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not 
curled  up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other 
than getting  partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at 
all in 22  years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know 
that I am too  old to be a viable candidate for any form of treatment which 
requires trials  and cetera. At least this way I will never have to look for a 
seat anywhere I  go! J  Have a great day everyone. Joan 
 
 
From: donald scott  [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43  PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject:  Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 
 
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out  and on my left 
hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have  a little pinch 
when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write,  ps2 with 
handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking  about a 
cure for later don't worry they will make your hands open again. I  personally 
never think about a cure and could careless at this  point.
 

 
Take care all, Donald
 

 
 
 
From: _bobbie299@aol.com_ (mailto:bobbie...@aol.com)  
_bobbie299@aol.com_ (mailto:bobbie...@aol.com) 
To: _Danny@ImmortalDesigns.co_ (mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) ; 
_quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com)   
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed  like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody 
ever tried to straighten them out  ever. It has been advantage to have them 
curled up and locked … I'm able to  one doors very easily along with any 
other tasks. Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny  Espinoza _Danny@ImmortalDesigns.co_ 
(mailto:da...@immortaldesigns.co) 
To:  quad-list _quad-list@eskimo.com_ (mailto:quad-list@eskimo.com) 
Sent:  Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was  wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and  locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again 
someday and was  wondering if you guys could give me some information on how 
you 
keep your  fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them 
twice a day but  its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…  

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[Danny Hearn]

I stretch mine out at least once a day or more..it just feels good to open 
them at times and bend back a bit on my thumbs to to exercise the muscles, I 
think this keeps my fingers from digging into my palms to tightI have 
always 
done it and soon as I reease them they go back into curled possition. Dan H. C-6





From: RONALD L PRACHT r.pra...@sbcglobal.net
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 12:14:27 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


i was told in rehab if i wanted to keep my tenodesis grip(curled fingers)...the 
key was not to stretch them out. I didnt listen and stretched them out during 
transfers and such, so mine are are straight now with lil movement since Im a 
c7 
its hard to say which is better, maybe curled are more functional for gripping 
certain things but I can do other things better with them open and they present 
more natural

ron c7





From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 10:07:12 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while others 
are curled and stiff? 

 
Theo 
 
From:Joan Anglin [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers
 
It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not curled 
up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other than getting 
partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at all in 22 years. 
I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know that I am too old to 
be 
a viable candidate for any form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. 
At least this way I will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! JHave a 
great day everyone. Joan
 
From:donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers
 
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write, ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking about a cure for later 
don't worry they will make your hands open again. I personally never think 
about 
a cure and could careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 
From:bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody ever 
tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to have them curled up 
and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily along with any other tasks.    
Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and 
locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and was 
wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…    

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[diannal767]

mine were straight and useless until I had tendon-transfers. now my thumbs are 
straight, the others are ugly lobster claws. the kids in the neighborhood had 
more questions about my fingers than anything else.
dianna



Does   anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are   curled and stiff? 





-Original Message-
From: wheelchair wheelch...@aol.com
To: r.pracht r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


Ron, have you tried FES  (electric stim) on your hands and fingers?
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 1/21/2013 12:11:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:
  
  
i was told in rehab if i wanted to keep my tenodesis grip(curled   
fingers)...the key was not to stretch them out. I didnt listen and stretched   
them out during transfers and such, so mine are are straight now with lil   
movement since Im a c7 its hard to say which is better, maybe curled are more   
functional for gripping certain things but I can do other things better with   
them open and they present more natural
  
 
  
ron c7

  

  
  
  From: Theo Kyparissis   kypar...@hol.gr
To:   Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 10:07:12   AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]   fingers


  
Does   anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are   curled and stiff? 
  
 
  
Theo   
  
 
  
  
  
From: Joan Anglin   [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013   17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]   fingers

  
 
  
It   has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not 
curled   up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other than 
getting   partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at all in 
22   years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know that I am 
too   old to be a viable candidate for any form of treatment which requires 
trials   and cetera. At least this way I will never have to look for a seat 
anywhere I   go! J   Have a great day everyone. Joan
  
 
  
  
  
From: donald scott   [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43   PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject:   Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

  
 
  
  
  
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out   and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have   a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write,   ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking   about a cure for 
later don't worry they will make your hands open again. I   personally never 
think about a cure and could careless at this   point.
  
  
 
  
  
Take care all, Donald
  
  
 
  
  
  
  
From: bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com   
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re:   [QUAD-L] fingers
  

Mine have been locked closed   like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody 
ever tried to straighten them out   ever. It has been advantage to have them 
curled up and locked … I'm able to   one doors very easily along with any other 
tasks.  Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny   Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To:   quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent:   Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was   wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and   locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday 
and was   wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep 
your   fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a 
day but   its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…  








 

RE: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[bobbie299]

I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
   How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?   Theo  From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net]

Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

 It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com]

Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point.

 
Take care all, Donald
 
From: bobbie...@aol.com lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks.    Bobbie







-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…    

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[wheelchair]

In a sense its true, much depends on early ROM, nerve damage and how the  
damaged nerve affects the muscle group.  C4,5,6 injuries will/can affect,  
fine finger movement.  I've seen very good movement with some C7's.   But as 
everyone knows no two are alike.
Best Wishes
 
 
In a message dated 1/21/2013 1:34:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
bobbie...@aol.com writes:

I was  told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because  … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how  they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle  handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What  position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same  position?  Bobbie





-Original  Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject:  RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are  straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?   Theo  From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday,  January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]  fingers

It has never been any kind of option for me as my  hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the  fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right  hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure  for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate  for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this  way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day  
everyone. Joan From: donald scott  [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43  PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]  fingers

I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs  out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter  so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can  drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more.  If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your  
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could  
careless at this point.

Take care all,  Donald

From: bobbie...@aol.com  lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co;  quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re:  [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day  on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been  advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very  easily 
along with any other tasks. Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny  Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list  lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55  pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do  about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I  want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you  guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good  health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only  getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…  

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[diannal767]

-Original Message-
From: diannal767 diannal...@aol.com
To: wheelchair wheelch...@aol.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:33 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


I was sleeping.
dianna

I was   told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because   … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how   they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle   handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What   position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same   position?  Bobbie




-Original Message-
From: wheelchair wheelch...@aol.com
To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list 
quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 4:42 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


In a sense its true, much depends on early ROM, nerve damage and how the 
damaged nerve affects the muscle group.  C4,5,6 injuries will/can affect, fine 
finger movement.  I've seen very good movement with some C7's.  But as everyone 
knows no two are alike.
Best Wishes
 

In a message dated 1/21/2013 1:34:37 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
bobbie...@aol.com writes:
I was   told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because   … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how   they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle   handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What   position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same   position?  Bobbie





-Original   Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list   quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject:   RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are   straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?   TheoFrom: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday,   January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L]   fingers

 It has never been any kind of option for me as my   hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the   fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right   hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure   for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate   for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this   way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day   
everyone. Joan From: donald scott   [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43   PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L]   fingers

 I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs   out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter   so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can   drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more.   If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your   
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could   
careless at this point.
 
Take care all,   Donald
 
From: bobbie...@aol.com   lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co;   quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re:   [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day   on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been   advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very   easily 
along with any other tasks.  Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny   Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list   lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55   pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do   about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I   want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you   guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good   health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only   getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…



 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[diannal767]

i'd have to argue that theory given about 90% of quads have curled fingers. :-)
dianna

I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie





-Original Message-
From: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com
To: kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pm
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie





-Original Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?   Theo  From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

 It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 
From: bobbie...@aol.com lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks.Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…



 

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[diannal767]

-Original Message-
From: diannal767 diannal...@aol.com
To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


i'd have to argue that theory given about 90% of quads have curled fingers. :-)
dianna

I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie





-Original Message-
From: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com
To: kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pm
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie





-Original Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?   Theo  From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

 It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 
From: bobbie...@aol.com lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks.Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…



 
 

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[donald scott]

I'm sorry but the position your hand was in during your spinal injury has 
nothing to do with your hands curling. Your body naturally wants to curl up and 
twist from atrophy. I promise all quads that are c5 or c6 that letting your 
hands close into a fist will be the best thing for you. You will be way more 
independent and be able to do more. Most people think my hands look normal 
until I try to shake hands.
 
Be safe and independent,
Donald C5 22 years
 


 From: diannal...@aol.com diannal...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com; bobbie...@aol.com 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers
  

   
-Original Message-
From: diannal767 diannal...@aol.com
To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


i'd have to argue that theory given about 90% of quads have curled fingers. :-) 
dianna 
I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck. How about the rest of you. 
What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie 
-Original Message-
From: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com
To: kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pm
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck. How about the rest of you. 
What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie -Original 
Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are 
straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?   Theo  From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net?]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers  It has never been 
any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com?]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers  
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 
From: bobbie...@aol.com lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com Sent: Sunday, January 20, 
2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers Mine have been locked closed like a fist 
since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks.    Bobbie -Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers I was wondering what you guys do about your 
fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…       

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[Paul Jacobson]

Mine are straight, I’m ok with it...easier to type I would think.
And I can do stuff during naked timewith a girlthat
I imagine I can’t do if my fingers were curled.

Paul c5/6

From: donald scott 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:52 PM
To: diannal...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

I'm sorry but the position your hand was in during your spinal injury has 
nothing to do with your hands curling. Your body naturally wants to curl up and 
twist from atrophy. I promise all quads that are c5 or c6 that letting your 
hands close into a fist will be the best thing for you. You will be way more 
independent and be able to do more. Most people think my hands look normal 
until I try to shake hands.

Be safe and independent,
Donald C5 22 years

From: diannal...@aol.com diannal...@aol.com
To: quad-list@eskimo.com; bobbie...@aol.com 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:37 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


-Original Message-
From: diannal767 diannal...@aol.com
To: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:36 pm
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers


i'd have to argue that theory given about 90% of quads have curled fingers. :-)
dianna
I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie
-Original Message-
From: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com
To: kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pm
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because … the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay. I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie





-Original Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff?  Theo  From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net?]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers  It has never been any kind of option for me 
as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com?]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers  I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed 
with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point.   Take care all, Donald   From: bobbie...@aol.com 
lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks.Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only getting worse and 
I’m getting worried… 


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Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[donald scott]

Oh contraire mon frère. I type 28 words a minute with just my onepinky nuckle. As far as sex goes, my thumbs work amazingly well and because my hands are closed I can grasp a dildo or vibrator very well. Trust me, closed hands work very well. Not to mention the ability to stroke my own luv stick...lolFrom: Paul Jacobson
 pjacob...@san.rr.com To: donald scott rollingl...@yahoo.com; diannal...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com  Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers   




Mine are straight, I’m ok with it...easier to type I would think.
And I can do stuff during naked timewith a girlthat
I imagine I can’t do if my fingers were curled.

Paul c5/6




From: donald scott 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:52 PM
To: diannal...@aol.com ; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers



I'm sorry but the position your hand was in during your spinal injury 
has nothing to do with your hands curling. Your body naturally wants to curl up 
and twist from atrophy. I promise all quads that are 
c5 or c6 that letting your hands close into a fist will be the best thing for 
you. You will be way more independent and be able to do more. Most people think 
my hands look normal until I try to shake hands.

Be safe and independent,
Donald C5 22 years




From: "diannal...@aol.com" 
diannal...@aol.comTo: 
quad-list@eskimo.com; bobbie...@aol.com Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 4:37 
PMSubject: Re: [QUAD-L] 
fingers





-Original 
Message-From: diannal767 diannal...@aol.comTo: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list 
quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 7:36 pmSubject: Re: 
[QUAD-L] fingers

i'd 
have to argue that theory given about 90% of quads have curled fingers. 
:-)
dianna

I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because "… the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay." I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie




-Original 
Message-From: bobbie299 bobbie...@aol.comTo: kyparisi kypar...@hol.gr; quad-list quad-list@eskimo.comSent: Mon, 
Jan 21, 2013 2:34 pmSubject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers
I was told by my Doctor's that the reason my finger's are curled up is 
because "… the position your finger's are in when your nerves are 
severed is how they will stay." I personaly had my fingers wraped 
around motor cycle handles when I broke my neck.
How about the rest of you. What position were your hands when you 
broke your neck and are they in the same position?  Bobbie





-Original Message-
From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, Jan 21, 2013 11:05 am
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers

Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while 
others are curled and stiff? Theo From: Joan Anglin 
[mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net?]
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and 
not curled up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but 
other than getting partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t 
changed at all in 22 years. I too never consider a cure for SCI for 
myself as I know that I am too old to be a viable candidate for any 
form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. At least this way I 
will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! J Have a great day 
everyone. Joan From: donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com?]
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my 
left hand (I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a 
little pinch when I twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, 
write, ps2 with handles, rc cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If 
your thinking about a cure for later don't worry they will make your 
hands open again. I personally never think about a cure and could 
careless at this point. Take care all, Donald From: "bobbie...@aol.com" lt;bobbie...@aol.comgt;
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to 
have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks. Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza lt;da...@immortaldesigns.cogt;
To: quad-list lt;quad-list@eskimo.comgt;
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fing

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[RONALD L PRACHT]

Wheelchair,

    1 havent ever done the electric stem on my hands. I swam for over ten years 
and lifted weights and I believe that i got all the possible return back i 
could 
have. Would of loved to have tried more electric stem if I had the chance 
though.

ron c7


From: wheelch...@aol.com wheelch...@aol.com
To: r.pra...@sbcglobal.net; quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 12:40:29 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Ron, have you tried FES  (electric stim) on your hands and fingers?
Best Wishes

In a message dated 1/21/2013 12:11:59 P.M. Central Standard Time, 
r.pra...@sbcglobal.net writes:
i was told in rehab if i wanted to keep my tenodesis grip(curled fingers)...the 
key was not to stretch them out. I didnt listen and stretched them out during 
transfers and such, so mine are are straight now with lil movement since Im a 
c7 
its hard to say which is better, maybe curled are more functional for gripping 
certain things but I can do other things better with them open and they present 
more natural

ron c7





From: Theo Kyparissis kypar...@hol.gr
To: Quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, January 21, 2013 10:07:12 AM
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers


Does anyone know why some Quads fingers are straight and flexible while others 
are curled and stiff? 

 
Theo 
 
From:Joan Anglin [mailto:poaj...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 21, 2013 17:53
To: quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: RE: [QUAD-L] fingers
 
It has never been any kind of option for me as my hands are flat and not 
curled 
up. We do range of motion and work the fingers everyday but other than getting 
partial feeling back in the right hand they haven’t changed at all in 22 
years. 
I too never consider a cure for SCI for myself as I know that I am too old to 
be 
a viable candidate for any form of treatment which requires trials and cetera. 
At least this way I will never have to look for a seat anywhere I go! JHave a 
great day everyone. Joan
 
From:donald scott [mailto:rollingl...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:43 PM
To: bobbie...@aol.com; quad-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers
 
I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write, ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking about a cure for 
later 
don't worry they will make your hands open again. I personally never think 
about 
a cure and could careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 
From:bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody ever 
tried to straighten them out ever. It has been advantage to have them curled 
up 
and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily along with any other tasks.    
Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and 
locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and was 
wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…    

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[bobbie299]

Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s 
Nobody ever tried to straighten them out ever. It has been an advantage 
to have them curled up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily 
along with any other tasks.Bobbie







-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming 
stiff and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers 
again someday and was wondering if you guys could give me some 
information on how you keep your fingers in good health… right now my 
caregivers stretches them twice a day but its only getting worse and 
I’m getting worried…    

Re: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[donald scott]

I agree with bobbie. My hands are closed with thumbs out and on my left hand 
(I'm a lefty) my index finger is straighter so I have a little pinch when I 
twist my wrist up. With hands closed I can drive, write, ps2 with handles, rc 
cars, fish, hold stuff, plus lots more. If your thinking about a cure for later 
don't worry they will make your hands open again. I personally never think 
about a cure and could careless at this point.
 
Take care all, Donald
 


 From: bobbie...@aol.com bobbie...@aol.com
To: da...@immortaldesigns.co; quad-list@eskimo.com 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers
  
Mine have been locked closed like a fist since day on in the 1970s Nobody ever 
tried to straighten them out ever. It has been an advantage to have them curled 
up and locked … I'm able to one doors very easily along with any other tasks.   
 Bobbie






-Original Message-
From: Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co
To: quad-list quad-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, Jan 20, 2013 7:55 pm
Subject: [QUAD-L] fingers

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and 
was wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…    

RE: [QUAD-L] fingers....

[Danny Espinoza]

What kind?

 

From: Dana Wray [mailto:daa...@aol.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 6:08 PM
To: Danny Espinoza
Subject: Re: [QUAD-L] fingers

 

Danny incorporate more exercises in Your routine that's what I do

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 20, 2013, at 6:54 PM, Danny Espinoza da...@immortaldesigns.co wrote:

I was wondering what you guys do about your fingers… mine are becoming stiff 
and locked up… obviously I want to be able to use my fingers again someday and 
was wondering if you guys could give me some information on how you keep your 
fingers in good health… right now my caregivers stretches them twice a day but 
its only getting worse and I’m getting worried…