Re: Help PDS Upgrade -Newbie to list and Macs

[PeterH5322]

>I took a PowerPC PDS card out of a Quadra 610.Which meant taking it out
>of the adapter and installed it into a Quadra 650.
>
>The 610 worked fine using MacOS 8.1 with and without the PDS card ;-)
>
>The 650 didn't seem to want to acknowledge the card was there. I did
>install the PowerPC control panel switch it on did the vulcan mind
>cleansing control-p-r and rebooted it..

You must have the PPC Upgrade control panel installed first, and set for 
PPC mode OFF.

Then, you unstall the PPC Upgrade card and set the PPC mode ON.

Then, you MUST power off the machine.

Finally, when you power ON the machine, it will be in PPC mode.

To revert to 68K mode, reverse the procedure.


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Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video

[Rob]

To be honest, I really don't remember, since it wasn't very important at the
time. I was quite happy to continue running OS 8.1 on this machine, but I
have thought recently that running 7.5 or 7.6 might be a little better from
a performance standpoint. Too many other Mac (and non-PC) projects on the go
right now, but sometime in the near future I will look at it again...

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> What formatting tool did you use, and what OS was it?  There are some
gotchas
> outlined in the FAQ that you might want to read.


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Re: Help PDS Upgrade -Newbie to list and Macs

[the pickle]

At 00:28 -0500 on 02/01/03, Frank Kannemann wrote:

>The 650 didn't seem to want to acknowledge the card was there. I did
>install the PowerPC control panel switch it on did the vulcan mind
>cleansing control-p-r and rebooted it..

You probably have to do a full install of the OS with the card in place,
although there's a chance you might have damaged the card moving it over.  Does
it still work in the 610?

>3) What is latest version of MacOS can I run on it? 8.6?

Only with some serious hacking.

>The reason for doing this is to get a later version netscape MacOS 8.0
>came with Navigator 3.0 but when I tried to install Netscape 4.78 or
>Opera they complain about not having ppc...on the 650...

Why not use iCab?  It's far better than anything else on the Classic Mac OS.
Netscape 4 is such a horrid excuse for a browser that it should be banned from
the Internet.
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Help PDS Upgrade -Newbie to list and Macs

[Frank Kannemann]

Hi,

I have two machines and was trying to make one uber machine ;-)

>From everything I could find on the net it should work

I took a PowerPC PDS card out of a Quadra 610.Which meant taking it out
of the adapter and installed it into a Quadra 650.

The 610 worked fine using MacOS 8.1 with and without the PDS card ;-)

The 650 didn't seem to want to acknowledge the card was there. I did
install the PowerPC control panel switch it on did the vulcan mind
cleansing control-p-r and rebooted it..

The 650 also has MacOS 8.1 on it..

It seems with card is an Apple original and doesn't have a frequency
switch/jumper on it like some of the 3rd party ones...

So a copy of questions:

1) Should it work?

2) any diagnostic software that might help I think daystar had some?

3) What is latest version of MacOS can I run on it? 8.6?

The 610 only has 20MBs in it and the 650 has 72MBs that 

The reason for doing this is to get a later version netscape MacOS 8.0
came with Navigator 3.0 but when I tried to install Netscape 4.78 or
Opera they complain about not having ppc...on the 650...

Anyway any thoughts or pointers would be appreciated...

Frank




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Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video

[the pickle]

At 21:42 -0700 on 01/01/03, Rob wrote:

>The last time I tried to reformat and partition the 4GB drive, the OS
>complained that the drive itself was too large. On OS 8.1, there were no

What formatting tool did you use, and what OS was it?  There are some gotchas
outlined in the FAQ that you might want to read.
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Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video

[Rob]

Thanks for the reply

I use Fusion Recorder now. It seems to be OK, I was just wondering if there
was something else available.

The last time I tried to reformat and partition the 4GB drive, the OS
complained that the drive itself was too large. On OS 8.1, there were no
problems. I'll have to try it again.

I've got a SpigotProAV. This indeed works with the older Quicktime versions
available, but the later versions (5-6?) complain about the lack of a CODEC
to view the file. On a machine with QT4 (I think), it wouldn't show the
video, but the audio was intact...

Rob

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Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video


> Fusion Recorder is a good one. I believe there is a download link at the
> AV Quadra site: . If
> that fails, let me know and I'll send you the stuff.

> You can reformat your drive into smaller-sized partitions. This might be
> a bit inconvenient for you right now, after you already have stuff set up
> for your convenience on one 4GB partition.

> What kind of Spigot card do you use? I have a SPRO (Spigot Pro AV) that
> works fine from 7.1 through 8.1. It requires an extension to make it work
> well with QuickTime.


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Re: Decent price for a boxed 660av

[Michael Emery]

Happy New Years, Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

What does anyone think a boxed 660av is worth?

I have several 660s here at the house. In eBay dollars, I would wager 
they're worth $10, give or take the "quality" variable.
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Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video

[Michael Emery]

Happy New Years, Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

What are the best apps for digitizing video?

Fusion Recorder is a good one. I believe there is a download link at the 
AV Quadra site: . If 
that fails, let me know and I'll send you the stuff.

I'm running 8.1 [...] The last time I tried to run an 
older OS, it complained about my 4 GB SCSI drive, being 
too large. Is there an easy way around this?

You can reformat your drive into smaller-sized partitions. This might be 
a bit inconvenient for you right now, after you already have stuff set up 
for your convenience on one 4GB partition.

Once I've got the video into the computer, are there any 
good utilities to convert the video to a newer video 
codec? Most newer apps (including QuickTime) don't want 
to read the Spigot's Interlaced jpeg format.

What kind of Spigot card do you use? I have a SPRO (Spigot Pro AV) that 
works fine from 7.1 through 8.1. It requires an extension to make it work 
well with QuickTime.

Sorry for all of the questions, but I figured since it 
was already being discussed...

Answering your query is a pleasant diversion from eating New Year's food. 
;-)

I hope this helps you.
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Re: Re(2): 7.1.1 Slowness Revealed! See the light!

[the pickle]

At 10:43 -0600 on 30/12/02, Derek Morton wrote:

>I haven't seen anybody mention it, but what about the benefit of SCSI
>manager 4.3?  A Quadra 800 will definitely benefit from it, and the

SCSI Manager 4.3 doesn't *appear* to get used, even on later OS versions - a
guy over on Vintage Macs has had some problems that lead him to believe it
isn't active - but that would definitely be a factor, and it's 7.1 compatible,
so it should either be installed on both or removed on both.

>perform better than the second.  I would also suggest using MacBench to

Got a reliable link to a 68K-compatible version of MacBench?  I can't seem to
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Re: 7.1.1 Slowness Revealed! See the light!

[the pickle]

At 01:51 -0500 on 30/12/02, Charles Shannon Hendrix wrote:

>How long does one of your machines take to boot, say the Q900 for example?

An SE/30 with AppleShare Server 3 installed on it, running 7.1 plus all the
extras I list in the FAQ, takes about 15 seconds to go from warm power-on to
full usable desktop (warm power-on because RAM tests take forever with 128MB
and they'd do so on either OS so it's not really fair to count them as part of
the startup time) if I don't *also* allow the AppleShare Server to finish
starting (it loads extensions but the two programs it launches at startup are
disabled).

7.5 takes about two minutes with the same config minus AppleShare Server.

>By far the slowest part of a cold bootup is the RAM check, which takes
>at least 2 minutes.  Fortunately, it doesn't do it on subsequent boots
>unless you power off.

Yeah, I'm definitely *not* counting that time, because that's a problem on
*any* 68K Mac, no matter what OS is installed.
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Re: boot disk

[the pickle]

At 14:48 +1100 on 30/12/02, Sque wrote:

>I'd like to boot different system folders from seperate partitions, what
>do I need to do this under 7.1 as the startup disk CP is rather useless

If they're on separate partitions, the Startup Disk cp ought to work.

What's it doing instead of working?
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using an 840AV for VHs video editing

[AylmerQuebec]

Thanks for all the help.  Until I can get all the software that I need per
your recommendations, I'll try with what's on there already.
At the moment it's Apple Video Player, which I'm guessing might be the
program that was installed to do editing.  Unfortunately, when I try to run
it, I get an error message that it needs version  1.4.2  of the Video
Startup extension and that the computer have Video in hardware.
In the Extension manager, I have Video Startup 1.7.1.  As far as hardware,
there's a card from Storm Technologies, with no serial numbers that I can
find, which I don't know the use.  If I remove it, the computer works just
as fine.
Any guess as to whether this board has anything to do with Video and what I
can do about the extension 1.7.1  or 1.4.2  ?

Thanks

Jean Marc


>
>I bought a used Quadra 840AV with lots of installed software from someone
>clearing out his basement.  Unfortunately I've never worked with a Mac
>before. It didn't come with any books of any sorts and I'm wondering if any
>of you have any experience using this Mac for editing, if there's any info
>on line, what programs I should be using and a few hints.
>I plan to use a vcr to play the video tapes. The Mac has 2 RCA type jacks,
=
I
>believe they are, at the back where I could hook it up.  Does this make
>sense?


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Re: Apples & Hams

[Denny Davis]

At 10:24 PM -0600 on 12/23/02, Terry Ovans wittily wrote:


>Can anyone tell me if there are any programs out there that will allow
>Ham Radio operators to use their Apple computers as code terminals and
>the like?
>
There is one guy who does shareware programs for HAM radio operators that
might have what you want.

This from the INFO-MAC Digest list
Info-mac is a large group of mirrored FTP servers around the workd that have
Mac shareware and Freeware that one can download and there is a Digest List
for the new additions to it.

Date: 23 Apr 2002
From: Chris Smolinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Subject: [*] Elmer 4.0.0

Program URL: http://www.blackcatsystems.com/software/elmer.html
Author email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Abstract:

Elmer creates sample tests to help you prepare for your ham radio written
examination. It contains all FCC question pools for each of the three
written exams: Technician, General, and Extra Class.

Elmer will grade your sample test, showing you which questions were
answered incorrectly. It will also indicate if you passed the exam. Elmer
keeps track of quick questions give you difficulty, and custom tailors
exams to emphasize these questions.

Shareware: $25

Chris Smolinski

[Archived as /info-mac/app/elmer-400.hqx; 1292 K]

In Anarchie or Interarchy [the current version name] you just copy the part
that starts with / and include up to the ; for example
/info-mac/app/elmer-400.hqx and paste it into the FTP download window in
Anarchie and Anarchie will use the info-mac server that you have set in
InternetConfig, if you have it set up properly.

One can use most any of the FTP programs like Fetch, etc. also, If you need
help with this let me know.

I don't know if Elmer 4.0.0 works on 68k Macs or not and I am not sure that
you will find what you are looking for in a 68k Mac version, but Chris
Smolinski does do the kind of shareware that you might want.
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Re: DiskCopy

[Denny Davis]

At 6:43 PM -0500 on 12/19/02, the pickle wittily wrote:


>At 09:14 -0500 on 19/12/02, Charles Estabrooks wrote:
>
>>I'll probably post this to the powermacs list as well, but...
>>
>>When trying to make floppy disks from disk images, I am only able to make
>>them successfuly on my 68K machines (using DiskCopy 4.2), including my
>>Quadra 650.  When I try on my PowerMacs, DiskCopy (v 6.3.3) fails about 90%
>>of the time.  Any ideas?
>
>Does 4.2 work on the PPCs, and does 6.3.x work on the 650?
>--
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>the pickle

I don't know about 4.2 working on a PPC or not, but I do know that DiskCopy
6.3.3 works just fine on my Quadra 610, well except that it won't make a .smi
from a disk image file with AppleScript unless I run OS 8.1 and I am running
OS 7.6.1. :-}
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Re: Need Gravis Firebird Driver and info ASAP!

[Denny Davis]

At 7:14 PM +1100 on 12/13/02, Sque wittily wrote:


>Denny Davis wrote:
>
>>My friend bought a used Mac Gravis Firebird joystick, but it didn't come with
>>a install disk or any instructions. Could someone help with this please? I
>>can download the driver if there is a place that has it, also I would like
>>some information on how ones sets it up. I know it is ADB joystick, but that
>>is all I know about this one. I would appreeciate it if someone would help as
>>I want to get it working for him. :-}
>>
>>
>
>http://www.gravis.com/support/sup_1058.html
>
Thanks for the URL!
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Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video

[Rob]

I've got an 840av with a Video Spigot AV. I'm running 8.1, but I have
problems reliably getting the video to come out of the Spigot's outputs. It
seems to change depending on what app I'm using, then needs a reboot to make
it work properly again. Would changing to 7.5.5 help this?

The last time I tried to run an older OS, it complained about my 4 GB SCSI
drive, being too large. Is there an easy way around this?

What are the best apps for digitizing video? I only have a couple that work
with the Spigot. I've been trying to use Premiere 4, but it seems to give me
the most grief with Spigot output. Any suggestions?

Once I've got the video into the computer, are there any good utilities to
convert the video to a newer video codec? Most newer apps (including
Quicktime) don't want to read the Spigot's Interlaced jpeg format.

Sorry for all of the questions, but I figured since it was already being
discussed...

Thanks,
Rob

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> >upgrade to OS 8.1
>
> >Get a large SCSI-disk


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Re: Using an *40 AV to edit VHS video

[Rob]

Only if the VCR or camcorder has an S video jack already on it. There are
devices that convert composite video to S and vice-versa, but most of these
are cheap and do a very poor conversion.

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If your VCR or camcorder only has RCA jacks, would there be an advantage to
using an "s-video" adapter or cable (allowing you to use the s-video port
on the computer)?


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