Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)

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or i could mirror stuff on one of my many servers.
On Sat, 2 Jul 2005, 
Sque wrote:



Date: Sat, 02 Jul 2005 22:37:38 +1000
From: Sque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist 
To: Quadlist 
Subject: Re: [q] Networking Issues (LC575 Comm Slot Ethernet card)

Chris Zantides wrote:


Thats awesome!

Thank you kindly. 



Bookmark it and pass it on.
The museum hasn't been updated almost as long as gamba's site, thankfully 
both remain.
Grab a few files (not the whole page/site) each time you visit so together we 
can supply files if the site disappears.


Have a poke around http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/ it's a little hard to 
navigate but still worth the effort for tools/utilities, does anyone know 
where Gamba has disappeared too? A huge loss to low-end macs.


cheers


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Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler

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sorta they take a while to run anything.  i have a quadra 660av about 
the same speed takes a while to do things on it.  also my quadra 840av 
is slow too even though it is supposidely the fastest m68k
On Wed, 23 
Feb 2005, Sparky 191 wrote:

Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 10:48:09 +
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Subject: Re: [q] Sonnet QuadDoubler
Why is a 800 not great for web. Is it just too slow?
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Re: [q] Best Unix for 68k and PPC Macs?

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the only thing with openbsd is they have no platform maintainer.  also 
the fact that it supports less hardware than netbsd or linux is another 
issue on mac68k at least.  there is also a wider netbsd/mac68k userbase 
and therefore more incentive to fix problems with it.  i ran 
openbsd/mac68k and run netbsd/mac68k now.  they are virtually identical 
only netbsd is slightly faster due to cpu optimizations which are a real 
must if you want to do anything productive on it like a web server or 
email server.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Matt R wrote:

Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 06:30:41 -0800 (PST)
From: Matt R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Quadlist 
Subject: Re: [q] Best Unix for 68k and PPC Macs?
My General experience with MacPPC is flip a coin for
BSD or Linux.  Both have great support.  I have run
OpenBSD and NetBSD--personal preference as to which
you choose.  I prefer Open :-)
Linux on PPC is a simpler choice.  The only acceptable
choices are gentoo and debian.  And most people don't
like to wait for gentoo, so
But I would say avoid YDL like the plague.  2.3 and 3
were okay, but it felt too much like a half assed
attempt.  PPC Debian/Gentoo feel like i386, Sparc64,
etc.  Its just the same.
On Mac68k, I've run Open, Net, and Debian.  And I
think those are your only choices.  Again, my choice
is Open, but if you want that, you'll need one of the
most recent snap shots to run.  There were some
strange problems in 3.5 and 3.6 release.  They have
since been resolved.  Personally, I ran a quadra800
with OpenBSD 3.3 as my firewall since 3.3 was released
right up until a month ago.  Thats over 18 months.
Rebooted only when a new kernel was installed.

i know the guy who runs ziaspace.com.  the url
mentioned below.  i use
netbsd/mac68k daily.  it runs my email server.  and
netbsd/macppc runs
my webserver.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Gheorghe Ardelean wrote:
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:40:41 +0100 (CET)
From: Gheorghe Ardelean
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Quadlist 
Subject: Re: [q] Best Unix for 68k and PPC Macs?
Hi,
I am successfully running NetBSD on my 030 and 040
based MAC's
(LCIII/LC450, LC475, Quadra 700). For the 040LC
there is now NetBSD
mk68k-softfloat.
More about this one can find at:
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/
(the systems with 040LC one can download the
system from here:
ftp://ftp.ziaspace.com/pub/NetBSD/m68k.)
For the PPC version look at:
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/
There is a lot of documentation and one can browse
the mailing lists
archives to look for ideas etc.
Regards,
G. Ardelean
Anyone got any advice or personal experience
running a *nix OS on 68k
Macs in particular, but also PPC Macs? I'd love
to hear about your
successes, failures, thoughts, etc.
If there's any decent objective FAQ on this
subject just direct me to
that instead.
TIA,
 Jamie Kahn Genet

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Re: [q] Best Unix for 68k and PPC Macs?

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i know the guy who runs ziaspace.com.  the url mentioned below.  i use 
netbsd/mac68k daily.  it runs my email server.  and netbsd/macppc runs 
my webserver.
On Fri, 18 Feb 2005, Gheorghe Ardelean wrote:

Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 02:40:41 +0100 (CET)
From: Gheorghe Ardelean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist 
To: Quadlist 
Subject: Re: [q] Best Unix for 68k and PPC Macs?
Hi,
I am successfully running NetBSD on my 030 and 040 based MAC's
(LCIII/LC450, LC475, Quadra 700). For the 040LC there is now NetBSD
mk68k-softfloat.
More about this one can find at:
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/
(the systems with 040LC one can download the system from here:
ftp://ftp.ziaspace.com/pub/NetBSD/m68k.)
For the PPC version look at:
http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/
There is a lot of documentation and one can browse the mailing lists
archives to look for ideas etc.
Regards,
G. Ardelean
Anyone got any advice or personal experience running a *nix OS on 68k
Macs in particular, but also PPC Macs? I'd love to hear about your
successes, failures, thoughts, etc.
If there's any decent objective FAQ on this subject just direct me to
that instead.
TIA,
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Re: [q] 68k irc

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where is that room which chatservice and server
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Blake 
Hanes wrote:

Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 17:58:31 -0500
From: Blake Hanes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Quadlist 
Subject: Re: [q] 68k irc
yea its also best if you belong to Mac68kMLA  im a regular in that room
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:12:15 -0500, Tim Maloney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
By the way, if you have an older mac this is a great chat room, #Mac68k_SGI
on freenode. They discuss 68k macs and SGI machines, but also any older mac
and OSX issues too. I've found them useful
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Re: [q] Streaming Audio

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not to mp3s but maybe real audio!
On Thu, 13 Jan 2005, Benjamin Black 
wrote:

Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 20:40:46 -0600
From: Benjamin Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist 
To: Quadlist 
Subject: [q] Streaming Audio
Hello!
I'm new to the list.  I'm on my sister's G3 beige tower at the moment,
but will be downgrading to my old Quadra 610 (which I have missed) here
soon.  What I will miss most from the G3, however, is streaming radio.
I'm on a cable modem and I get great speed on my Quadra.  Is is possible
to listen to online radio on my Quadra under OS 7.6?
Thanks,
Ben
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Re: [q] Use for Q605 (was Re: [q] TEST)

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technically the 660av is a better machine it has built in ethernet.  you 
can also use them as dns servers by running some free nix on them
On Fri, 7 
Jan 2005, Michael Emery wrote:

Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2005 00:04:11 -0600
From: Michael Emery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist 
To: Quadlist 
Subject: [q] Use for  Q605 (was Re: [q] TEST)
GDB-B&W-X.3.7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
   The fact of it is that if the bandwidth on the
   Quadlist is limited any further it will be
   non-existent! I guess not many people using Quads
   these days. What kind do you have Neal?
My name ain't Neal, but I've gotta bring up the question, "What can I do
with my Quadra 605?"
Last week of 2005 I took my last Q660av (the one equipped with the SPRO)
to the Goodwill Computer Store for recycling or something. I feel that I
got as much out of that one as was possible. That leaves my last Quadra,
the Q605.
It is so very cute! That's why I can't part with it yet. 68040 w/FPU;
interchangeable PDS cards, ranging from ethernet to NTSC. I just need a
use for the sweetheart...
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Re: [q] FPU Swap?

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a 68030 cannot be replaced by a 68040 lc or not
On Fri, 24 Dec 2004, Dennis 
McCormick wrote:

Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 14:22:21 -0600
From: Dennis McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist 
To: Quadlist 
Subject: [q] FPU Swap?
I use my Q800 for almost everything.
I travel with a 280c which doesn't have an FPU.
Could I add an FPU by swapping the processor in the 280c from a 68040LC
to a 68040?
The 270c used a 68030 (no LC) so heat shouldn't be a problem.
Thoughts?
Dennis in Wisconsin
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Re: [q] Quad 700 as firewall running Mac OS 8 or 7

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the only problem with such netgear linksys and belkin routers is that 
they crash fairly often when using applications such as bittorrent and 
limewire or so i have found
On Thu, 16 Dec 2004, Ken Watanabe wrote:

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 13:54:41 -0800
From: Ken Watanabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [q] Quad 700 as firewall running Mac OS 8 or 7
A Quadra can be used under Mac OS for that purpose, as a router and
firewall.  However, considering that there is a cost for buying the software
(like IPNetRouter) and the energy cost of keeping the Quadra turned on for
this purpose, and considering that a dedicated router/firewall device from
Linksys or Belkin costs about $50 these days (with very low power usage), it
does not make sense.  Those small devices are designed just for this
purpose, so they are very easy to set up and use.
If that Quadra was also serving some other purpose (such as a data server or
web server), then it might (?) make sense.
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Re: [q] Quad 700 as firewall running Mac OS 8 or 7

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use ipnetrouter.  or even better install netbsd on it and use that it 
works GREAT i use netbsd on a 840av as a server
On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, dwight 
hines wrote:

Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 16:19:05 -0500
From: dwight hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [q] Quad 700 as firewall running Mac OS 8 or 7
Is anyone using Mac OS 8, or 7, as a firewall?
I've given up on the open source right now.  Even the geeks are having 
headaches getting it to work.

dh
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Re: [q] Need "Dummies with Quadra 700 wanting NetBSD installed book."

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it is brain dead simple.  if you want a walkthrough i can help alot.  i 
actively use it all the time on a daily basis.  netbsd/mac68k that is. 
if you got a zip drive or a second scsi disk that is all ya really need.
On 
Fri, 19 Nov 2004, dwight hines wrote:

Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 17:30:41 -0500
From: dwight hines <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [q] Need "Dummies with Quadra 700 wanting NetBSD installed book."
There must be someone out there somewhere who has written  a sure fire guide 
to installing NetBSD, 1.6 or higher, on a Quadra 700.I've tried now 
several times and all I've done is perfected an excellent way to clean my 
disk.

Now, does someone have a recommendation on what browser is best to use with 
System 7.5 on a Quadra 700?

I also need a place to download it from.
Now, since I have built in ethernet, or at least an ethernet aaui that i can 
transform to ethernet, I should be able to install NetBSD directly with my 
high speed connection.

But, if it is not brain dead simple on how to do all this, please let me 
know.

d
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Re: [q] Free quadra 700 with 20 mg, 1 gig and ipnetrouter installed.

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one or two nics?
On Mon, 15 Nov 2004, Young, Steve W wrote:
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 14:41:11 -0800
From: "Young, Steve W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [q] Free quadra 700 with 20 mg, 1 gig and ipnetrouter installed.
Free quadra 700 with 20 mg, 1 gig and ipnetrouter installed.
san jose ca.   Pick up or ship, it's yours.
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Re: [q] I can not get my Quadra 700 to start up from an iomega zip disk, using 7.1 or 7.5 systems

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copy a minimial install to a zip disk and such.  you can just basically copy 
the system folder as well that would work.

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Re: [q] OS 8.1

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os 8.1 is fine fon a 660av.  of course i have 68 megs of ram.  you NEED 
the ram badly with 8.1
On Sat, 13 Nov 2004, George Bingham wrote:

Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:13:38 -0600
From: George Bingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [q] OS 8.1
I have it running on my quadra 660 AV, but I haven't had much
opportunity to try it outI don't know of anything that's going to
support truly modern websurfing for the 68k macs though.

On Sat, 13 Nov 2004 14:29:03 -0500 (EST), ManiacMac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Thanks George, how well does iCab work on the older systems?  BTW, I found a 
good place to download the older browsers from, anyone who is looking, try:
http://browsers.evolt.org/

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Re: [q] 840 av

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you could use the quadra 840av like i do and host websites :) i run 
www.powix.org off it it was doing 120 megs a day of some content for 
another site.  of course i got a huge 36 gig 10k rpm scsi disk and 128 
megs ram
On Sun, 7 Nov 2004, William Ove wrote:

Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2004 22:05:17 -0600
From: William Ove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [q] 840 av
On Nov 7, 2004, at 7:40 PM, Philip Stortz wrote:
what can i do with an 840 av?  will it record vi deo with a jack hammer 
card and can i watch t v on
it if i use the tuner in a vcr to provide it vide o?  i'm having real 
problems with "cont ent not ac
cepted".  those filt ers never work right, these list have more sp am than 
any others i've seen and
it gets right through.  so rry for the ex tra sp ces, it seem to help 
since rea l spa mers do it
that way.  tha nks.

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From: "regan norton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [q] Performa 635 q's
Date: Sat, 06 Nov 2004 21:28:44 -0600
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi all - I'm a recent "vintage" mac owner, and a new member of this 
list.
I'm a professional when it comes to mac OS 9 and OS X. As my trusty 1st
generation g4 tower was my first ever mac, the ins-and-outs of anything
"pre-g" are pretty foreign for me. Recently, I had great fortune at a
benefit fund-raiser sale. I landed a Performa 635cd (in great working 
order,
and with all of its original internal parts) along with a ton of far out 
of
Well I think the Quadra 840 is the finest Mac ever made, so congratulations 
on getting one. To answer a great many questions about the 68K AV machines I 
suggest you take a look through this fine site.


I do concur with the prior post suggesting that you change your email style, 
for your current style is very difficult to follow.

bill
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Re: [q] Netting two quadras and a supermac together

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you need scsi to ethernet adapters you could get ethernet cards for the quadra or 
use localtalk

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Re: [q] External Storage Solutions for 'Centris 650'

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or you could just use some free unixes on it

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Re: [q] multiple users setup for 8.1 or7.5?

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you can actually use an open apple reset and then type g f (exactly like that) then 
press return then it goes to finder anyways to bypass it.  there was also an 
application called fool proof that limited access to machines the ability to write and 
such

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Re: [q] botting macos 8.1 cd on a quadra 660av

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it does not boot off the cd still it ejects it.  it is a caddy drive.  it just doesn't 
seem to be working right.

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[q] botting macos 8.1 cd on a quadra 660av

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i cannot boot the cd on my quadra 660av it is rather bothersome due to the fact i need 
os 8.1.  i cannot boot into macos 7.6.1 and just install 

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Re: [q] translation needed

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the main problem with a/ux is that it is no longer patched.  when you run a unix 
machine connected to a network you need to be current.  you can maybemake it current 
with pkgsrc.  netbsd or debian or openbsd are the only alternatives.  however openbsd 
does not like to compile itself so that is out.

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Re: [q] Keep me posted on your q700 research and development, esp with linux

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it runs fine on my quadra 840av netbsd that is.  i run www.powix.org on 
it.  it has uploaded 21.7 gig this month.  then again i have a maxed out 
quadra.  if anyone wants email on it ask me.  btw anyone happen to know 
where i can get a copy of os 8.1 cheap or free?
On Sun, 22 Aug 2004, Sque 
wrote:

Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2004 13:13:13 +1000
From: Sque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [q] Keep me posted on your q700 research and development,
esp with linux
Ian Gowen wrote:
I believe you can run debian-m68k on the quadras... check jag's house
for details.
Mainly only good for cli, I've run kde but its way to slow. Netbsd is not 
much better or worse. Some of the light wieght desktop managers are said to 
work well, if a little slow.

If you already have a nix box of some sort you could try a vnc client on the 
mac or Exodus which is rather excellent, even better if you know how to 
configure your firewall properly. :)
When configured you can run nix programs at good speed on your quadra which 
is fun. Win4Lin runs well in a window, sometime I'll try Sheepshaver, OS9 on 
a unaccellerated quad, in a window. :)

cheers
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Re: [q] machine comparison

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the 660av is 33 mhz i believe www.everymac.com gives me that info.  the 660 av has the 
most ram as well a max of 68 megs.  the 630 also has a 68lc040 cpu i believe.  that is 
slower than the 660 av you can run the most operating systems on the 660av however 
netbsd and linux and openbsd on it and a/ux

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Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions

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i run one as a server i am actually typing this on it it is my main
web/email server as well as for ssh connections.  anyways i just leave a
keyboard plugged into it with a penny and a dime on the power key to
make it turn on in case of power outages.  it works marvelously well you
should consider it.
On Sun, 9 May 2004, Scott Holder wrote:

> Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 02:53:34 -0400
> From: Scott Holder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [q] Quadra 840AV boot conditions
>
> Ken wrote:
>
> > 
> >
> >-
> >I believe the machine is one of those that "needs" the power switch on
> >the keyboard to start it up.
> >
> >Ken
> >
> >
> It's not. I run one as a server without a keyboard or mouse attached, it
> starts up fine from the front button. Although I've about broken my
> button off the logic board, so I may have to resort to the keyboard one :)
>
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[q]Re: Hard drive formatting / partition sizes

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netbsd works fine on a quadra 650 and a quadra 840av with a 36 gig 10k
rpm disk scsiit is an os thing i can only have a 4 ish gig partition
in 7.5.3 when i had 7.5.3 on the quadra 840av
On Sat, 14 Feb 2004, Don
wrote:

> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 04 23:25:52 -0500
> From: Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Quadlist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [q]Hard drive formatting / partition sizes
>
> >Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 22:11:59 -0800
> >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Hi all.
> >
> >I have a Performa 636 who's hard disk failed (finally).  It had OS 7.5.3 =
> >on
> >it.  I replaced it with the smallest IDE drive I had - a 13 GB Quantum
> >Fireball, but OS 7.5.x wouldn't initialize the drive successfully.
> >
> >I just received a copy of MacOS 8.1, and I booted the CD and initialized =
> >the
> >drive and installed 8.1 onto a single standard 13 GB partition (the =
> >notes on
> >the CD say that 68k based Mac's can't start from a HFS+ partition).
> >
> >When I remove the CD and reboot, I get a ? Mac - it can't find anything =
> >to
> >boot from.  Does anybody have any ideas what I am doing wrong, or can =
> >point
> >me in the direction of what to do?
> >
> >Thank you!
> >
> >--> Russ
>
> I'm not remembering the source, but I recall long ago hearing some
> comments on this list that there is a 2 gig limit for hard drive size
> OR partition size.
>
> It seems to me that it was a limit based on using Apple software
> to partition a drive on the 68 k processor machines I 'think'
> before system 8.1
>
> I seem to recall that if you get away from the Apple software and /
> or get up to 8.1 that might relieve that issue and perhaps allow you
> to make larger partitions or use larger drives. YMMV.
>
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