Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

>Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I'm bad but I'm not that stupid...
>
>Unlike some correspondents to the mailing list, this writer means no
>malice.

Neither did I, I was just 'avin' a larrff as the say in London.

>  But you're smart and tenacious, Mark. Congratulations on getting
>your SPAV to working. :-)

Thx. It's still not running to plan but it's mostly software niggles 
and, I think, the old RAID problem you mentioned.

>Does it truly write to your RAID?

No, and I don't think it ever will but hey, it was a nice idea :).

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Michael Emery]

Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I'm bad but I'm not that stupid...

Unlike some correspondents to the mailing list, this writer means no 
malice. But you're smart and tenacious, Mark. Congratulations on getting 
your SPAV to working. :-)

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

>Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I don't think the 8.1 version OF ASP does slot info. As
> far as other utilities go it shows up in the 'about'
> dialog of the Radius Dynamic Desktop CP as a 'DeskStudio
> 1.0 b4' which is what it is (DeskStudio, made by BUG, is
> actually the Japanese version but it's the same card).
> If anyone has the original DeskStudio Extensions or
> something like that I'll try those instead...
>
>SPAV doesn't require Radius Dynamic Desktop, which might simnly bring out
>incompatibilities. Radius Dynamic Desktop seems to be aimed at VVS users.
>AFAIK Radius Dynamic Desktop never did ship with SPAV. I would disable
>all of that stuff, and try to run a a minimum set of just the necessary
>extensions, especially Quicktime version whatever (free v2.5 is a good
>staring point) and Spigot AV Extension v1.1.

Well seeing as how I have a Radius Thunder IV 1360 GX Graphics card 
I'd rather not disable the DSP Support and the Dynamic desktop 
support. I never intended to use it with the SPAV card it was just a 
reference to show the card wasn't dead, I'm bad but I'm not that 
stupid ;).

I got it to work anyway,  you know what it was? I HAVE to have a 
monitor plugged into the onboard graphics controller to use the AV 
system's video digitizer, not into the NuBus graphics card. Man some 
things are just to finikity for their own good!!

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Michael Emery]

Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I don't think the 8.1 version OF ASP does slot info. As 
far as other utilities go it shows up in the 'about' 
dialog of the Radius Dynamic Desktop CP as a 'DeskStudio 
1.0 b4' which is what it is (DeskStudio, made by BUG, is 
actually the Japanese version but it's the same card). 
If anyone has the original DeskStudio Extensions or 
something like that I'll try those instead...

SPAV doesn't require Radius Dynamic Desktop, which might simnly bring out 
incompatibilities. Radius Dynamic Desktop seems to be aimed at VVS users. 
AFAIK Radius Dynamic Desktop never did ship with SPAV. I would disable 
all of that stuff, and try to run a a minimum set of just the necessary 
extensions, especially Quicktime version whatever (free v2.5 is a good 
staring point) and Spigot AV Extension v1.1.
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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

>Hmm. I have a Q840AV running 8.1 with a Spigot Power AV. I'll power it
>up in a few and see what all I have in the way of control panels and
>extensions and what all shows up where.

The card is, beyond doubt, perfectly 100% fine. I got it to work 
under 7.1 and actually recorded via it. I used it with QT 1.6.2 and 
2.1 with no trouble (using the 1.1.1 driver). As soon as I tried it 
with OS 7.5 is wouldn't have it. Now I'm stuck as my AV drives are 
both 9GB and the roof for Volumes in 7.1 is 2GB which is damn all use 
to me really. Also Avid Videoshop doesn't run under Sys 7.1. So 
either I have an Spigot or I have my AV drives and I can't currently 
have both. Does anyone know if there is a newer ROM than 1.0? That's 
what mine is but I suspect there is a better one maybe, I dunno if 
it's flashable

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[James S Jones]

Hmm. I have a Q840AV running 8.1 with a Spigot Power AV. I'll power it 
up in a few and see what all I have in the way of control panels and 
extensions and what all shows up where.

On Sunday, June 9, 2002, at 06:32  AM, Mark Benson wrote:

>> Does Apple System Profiler or Slot Info show the card is installed?
>
> I don't think the 8.1 version OF ASP does slot info. As far as other
> utilities go it shows up in the 'about' dialog of the Radius Dynamic
> Desktop CP as a 'DeskStudio 1.0 b4' which is what it is (DeskStudio,
> made by BUG, is actually the Japanese version but it's the same
> card). If anyone has the original DeskStudio Extensions or something
> like that I'll try those instead, I'm willing to give anything a
> shot, even if it's in Japanese!


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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

>Does Apple System Profiler or Slot Info show the card is installed?

I don't think the 8.1 version OF ASP does slot info. As far as other 
utilities go it shows up in the 'about' dialog of the Radius Dynamic 
Desktop CP as a 'DeskStudio 1.0 b4' which is what it is (DeskStudio, 
made by BUG, is actually the Japanese version but it's the same 
card). If anyone has the original DeskStudio Extensions or something 
like that I'll try those instead, I'm willing to give anything a 
shot, even if it's in Japanese!

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[James S Jones]

Does Apple System Profiler or Slot Info show the card is installed?

On Sunday, June 9, 2002, at 02:08  AM, Mark Benson wrote:

>> Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>>
>> I have a Jackhammer NuBus card with the 2 9GB drives
>> attached...
>>
>> Do try it with the Jackhammer stuff completely disabled. The SPAV likes
>> to write to a single spindle drive.
>
> I did that, I even pulled the card out too. Several people have said
> it prefers non-RAID but I can't see why it matters or for that matter
> how it can tell. Either way it didn't make a jot of difference.
>
>> BTW are we talking Q840av now?


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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

>Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> I have a Jackhammer NuBus card with the 2 9GB drives
> attached...
>
>Do try it with the Jackhammer stuff completely disabled. The SPAV likes
>to write to a single spindle drive.

I did that, I even pulled the card out too. Several people have said 
it prefers non-RAID but I can't see why it matters or for that matter 
how it can tell. Either way it didn't make a jot of difference.

>BTW are we talking Q840av now?

Yes.

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Michael Emery]

Mark Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

I have a Jackhammer NuBus card with the 2 9GB drives 
attached...

Do try it with the Jackhammer stuff completely disabled. The SPAV likes 
to write to a single spindle drive. 

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

Oh I thought I'd add, I have a Jackhammer NuBus card with the 2 9GB 
drives attached and a Radius Thunder IV GX 1360 (which would make a 
very effective toaster it gets so damn hot) in the other two slots. 
Any known conflicts? It still doesn't work with the Radius Thunder 
card out (I got it before I got that) but I have not tried it with 
the Jackhammer removed.

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

>If you wish, I can email you Spigot AV Extension v1.1. Maybe it would
>work for you, like it would for me.
>
> I can't go earlier than 7.6.0 as I have an FWB RAID 0
> array on my Jackhammer (also newly installed and going
> like a train ) and it doesn't load in 7.5.5 (I don' t
> have the FWB RTK extension installed, does that help??).
>
>AFAIK SPAV and SPRO are not compatible with mutiple disk arrays.
>Single-disk capture is recommended. I've found success with OS 8.1 and
>lower.

Interesting, I'm willing to try anything. I have taken the following measures:

Seating - it damn well IS seated right I've checked repeatedly, taken 
it out and putzed around with it and put it back in and still no 
dice. I swear it is being detected but something else, possibly the 
bus or something , is preventing it from working fully.

Drivers - I have the 1.1 Drivers for the Spigot AV line (the readme 
includes the PowerAV so I presume it's the right driver, still no 
dice.

Quicktime - I have tried the following versions:
1.6.2
2.1
2.5
3.0
4.0.2
and non work.

System - I have tried 7.5.5, 7.6.0 and 8.1

Other - I have zapped the PRAM, removed the card and zapped the PRAM 
and them re-installed it, I've tried fresh copies of both the 1.0 and 
1.1 drivers and still it refuses to work.

I'm at my wits end. I'm just glad it's not 1994 and I didn't pay 
several 100s of dollars for it, or I'd be mighty miffed. As it was I 
only paid $14.99 plus a bit of shipping to get it over to the UK.
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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem

[Michael Emery]

If you wish, I can email you Spigot AV Extension v1.1. Maybe it would 
work for you, like it would for me. 

I can't go earlier than 7.6.0 as I have an FWB RAID 0 
array on my Jackhammer (also newly installed and going 
like a train ) and it doesn't load in 7.5.5 (I don' t 
have the FWB RTK extension installed, does that help??).

AFAIK SPAV and SPRO are not compatible with mutiple disk arrays. 
Single-disk capture is recommended. I've found success with OS 8.1 and 
lower.
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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem (and DSP ?)

[Chris Lawson]

At 10:59 -0700 on 06/06/02, byard pidgeon wrote:

>Related question: what OS version no longer supported DSPs? Is it 8.1?

7.5.5 and up don't work with them on the Radius Thunder cards, so maybe
that's the problem...

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Re: Spigot Power AV Problem (and DSP ?)

[byard pidgeon]

Could be the drivers, or it could be the board won't work with anything
newer than OS 7.5x, without or maybe even with a ROM upgrade.

Related question: what OS version no longer supported DSPs? Is it 8.1?

Reason for question: I have an 840av motha board with a broken resistor at
the DSP...board works but without DSP...so I'm wondering if I could put in a
Photo Engine board and have the DSPs work?

on 06/06/2002 10:31 AM, Mark Benson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I can't get my new Spigot PowerAV to work. It's new out of the
 Spigot Power AV extension may
> not be loaded"). I'm perplexed. I tried 8.1 and 7.6 and even
> downgraded to Quicktime 1.6.3. I suspect my problem is I only have
> v1.0 of the drivers.
> 
> 
> BTW I can't go earlier than 7.6.0 as I have an FWB RAID 0 array on my
> Jackhammer (also newly installed and going like a train  ) and it
> doesn't load in 7.5.5 (I don' t have the FWB RTK extension installed,
> does that help??).


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Spigot Power AV Problem

[Mark Benson]

I can't get my new Spigot PowerAV to work. It's new out of the 
box/wrapping/antistatic bag etc. and was still sealed when I got it 
so I severely doubt the card is dead.
Whenever I load up Mac OS with the extension there is no evidence it 
has failed to load, yet the Spigot PowerAV Player app says it hasn't 
loaded ("can not open export component, Spigot Power AV extension may 
not be loaded"). I'm perplexed. I tried 8.1 and 7.6 and even 
downgraded to Quicktime 1.6.3. I suspect my problem is I only have 
v1.0 of the drivers.


BTW I can't go earlier than 7.6.0 as I have an FWB RAID 0 array on my 
Jackhammer (also newly installed and going like a train  ) and it 
doesn't load in 7.5.5 (I don' t have the FWB RTK extension installed, 
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