[qubes-users] [Security] Anti-evil-maid didn't notice Xen update ?

2016-11-29 Thread Swâmi Petaramesh
Hello,

I use Qubes 3.2 (recent, default installation) with anti-evil-maid on HP
ProBook 6470b.

Anti-evil-maid is installed to HD /boot per instructions, TPM is
protected by a password, and I use a "secret" image instead of text.

So far everything seemed to work.

However this morning I had a Xen upgrade in dom0, and, as documented, I
was expecting it to break my AEM secret image display at next reboot.

So after upgrading Xen in dom0 I rebooted the system and... nothing
special hapenned. AEM displayed my "secret" image as usual, without any
unusual behaviour or warning whatsoever.

So I wonder : Is AEM actually working on my system ?

Any clue appreciated.

TIA.

Kind regards.

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[qubes-users] Re: safer typing in public places

2016-11-29 Thread pixel fairy
in our test, it was still pretty easy to see at 5 and 7 oclock, probably 
because were both really skinny. a couple more strips in front on the sides 
fixes that.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to install Win 7 x64 from a USB stick

2016-11-29 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu środa, 30 listopada 2016 04:26:19 UTC+1 użytkownik stevemic...@gmail.com 
napisał:
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 9:07:08 PM UTC-6, Jean-Philippe Ouellet 
> wrote:
> > It may make more sense to use qvm-block than qvm-usb here. Should in
> > theory have a smaller attack surface and expose better-tested code
> > paths.
> 
> I must be missing something really basic that, as a noob, I don't understand.
> The command qvm-block -a Win7 dom0:sdb returns
> ERROR: VM Win7 not running.
> 
> This seems like a catch 22 since I can't start the VM because there's no 
> bootable file system yet nor can I attach a device to a not running VM.

Don't use qvm-block, use --drive argument for the qvm-start command instead.
qvm-start Win7 --drive=/path/to/usb/drive

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[qubes-users] safer typing in public places

2016-11-29 Thread pixel fairy
just lined the sides of the lid of my laptop with velcro, and stapled the other 
end to cloth to fold over the keyboard while the lid is lowered. this allows 
for safer typing in public places. seems to work really well, but waiting on a 
friend to come over for a real test. see pic (remember to use dispvm!)

theres still audio and keyboard timing attacks. going to try playing randomly 
generated keyboard noises to turn on while typing and see if this can fool a 
directional mic. if so, that should cover cellphones mics and the like, but not 
for example a bugged hotel room. 

we would need qubes on a small device you can slide fingers around quietly. 
personally, i find it easy to use my phone under my t-shirt or blanket (in a 
hotel room) or just covering half the screen with fingers. only did a couple 
times because i dont believe anyones after, or that ive ever been in a bugged 
hotel room. but, i know its a known issue in china. if that tablet liberm is 
selling runs qubes, problem solved :)

i think for most of us, the most sensitive thing we type is the login 
passphrase, and the disk encryption passphras(es) when booting (two if you also 
use on disk fde) so, there should be little exposure to begin with, especially 
if you change the login password often enough. 

has anyone here experimented with bluetooth locks? it seems like a lot of extra 
scary code to run in dom0, but i like the idea of auto shutdown if device loses 
range. or maybe after a timeout period of some trigger?thats another 
discussion. 

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to install Win 7 x64 from a USB stick

2016-11-29 Thread stevemichaelphone
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 9:07:08 PM UTC-6, Jean-Philippe Ouellet wrote:
> It may make more sense to use qvm-block than qvm-usb here. Should in
> theory have a smaller attack surface and expose better-tested code
> paths.

I must be missing something really basic that, as a noob, I don't understand.
The command qvm-block -a Win7 dom0:sdb returns
ERROR: VM Win7 not running.

This seems like a catch 22 since I can't start the VM because there's no 
bootable file system yet nor can I attach a device to a not running VM.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: How to install Win 7 x64 from a USB stick

2016-11-29 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
It may make more sense to use qvm-block than qvm-usb here. Should in
theory have a smaller attack surface and expose better-tested code
paths.

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[qubes-users] Re: How to install Win 7 x64 from a USB stick

2016-11-29 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu wtorek, 29 listopada 2016 19:28:02 UTC+1 użytkownik 
stevemic...@gmail.com napisał:
> On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 11:41:59 AM UTC-6, Grzesiek Chodzicki wrote:
> > W dniu wtorek, 29 listopada 2016 17:17:03 UTC+1 użytkownik 
> > stevemic...@gmail.com napisał:
> > > I'm a total newbie. I've been searching for a howto to boot the Win7 
> > > domain from a USB stick so that Windows installs from the USB stick. I 
> > > went thru the process to attach the PCI channel using qvm-pci -a command 
> > > in Dom0. When I checked the Win7 Devices in VM Manager I see 00:14.0 USB 
> > > Controller ...
> > > 
> > > What I can't figure out is how to get the domain to boot from the USB 
> > > stick nor have my searches been fruitful. When I try to boot the domain I 
> > > get a PCI error that isn't displayed long enough for me to make a note of 
> > > it. The log file for the domain in VM Manager is greyed out.
> > > 
> > > I'm stuck.
> > 
> > Attack the stick using qvm-usb and then use the qvm-start windowsvmname 
> > --drive=windowsvmname:/dev/xvdi
> qvm-usb -l shows my stick at dom0:3-2
> qvm-usb -a Win7 dom0:3-2 gives the error message "VM Win7 not running". Win7 
> is an HVM template that has no boot information and therefore won't start.

Okay, if your usb stick is assigned to dom0 then all you need to do is 
qvm-start windowsvmname --drive=/dev/xvdi

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Re: [qubes-users] GUI Daemon error with new fedora-24-minimal template

2016-11-29 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 11:14:23AM -0500, 'Vincent Adultman' via qubes-users 
wrote:
> It looks like template uploaded to 3.1 repository was built for Qubes
> 3.2, so this is why it's incompatible. I've just removed this faulty
> template, building new one - will be ready in few hours.
> 
> Whoops. Thanks Marek. Will uninstall it and wait a bit then. Seems like I'm 
> an oddball still using 3.1 and fedora-minimal if I'm the first to run into it!

New templates uploaded.

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 3.1 on Skylake NUC?

2016-11-29 Thread Matthew R. Wilson
On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 06:09:36PM -0800, aesir.mag...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I have a new i3 Skylake NUC (NUC6i3SYK) and am trying to install
> >  Qubes OS 3.1 on it. Unfortunately, it's not working.
> 
> 3.2 is working great on my NUC6i3SYK. Have you tried it yet? I'm typing
> this message from it now.

Yep. The 3.2 release works fine, I'm guessing either the updated kernel
or X driver updates added support for the latest Skylake integrated
graphics.

Thanks,
Matthew

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Re: [qubes-users] How do I get past this critical error?

2016-11-29 Thread Jean-Philippe Ouellet
On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 7:15 AM, Joshua van den Hoven
 wrote:
> Hello guys,
>
> I am having a few isses with installing Qubes on my Dell Latitude e6330. I 
> have checked and i do have the correct chipset and a TPM available but still 
> get two errors the first is when i let the bootable media check after 4.8% it 
> returns an error and it stops.

Qubes does a checksum of the installation media before trying to use
it, and some bits here have been flipped for you. Your installation
media is simply corrupted.

I saw someone run into this problem (same stop at exactly 4.x%)
because he created the installation media from a Windows machine which
then modified the disk before ejecting it (adding some indexing
metadata or some such? i don't remember exactly why).

If this is the case for you, try using dd from some non-windows machine.

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[qubes-users] Re: How to install Win 7 x64 from a USB stick

2016-11-29 Thread stevemichaelphone
On Tuesday, November 29, 2016 at 11:41:59 AM UTC-6, Grzesiek Chodzicki wrote:
> W dniu wtorek, 29 listopada 2016 17:17:03 UTC+1 użytkownik 
> stevemic...@gmail.com napisał:
> > I'm a total newbie. I've been searching for a howto to boot the Win7 domain 
> > from a USB stick so that Windows installs from the USB stick. I went thru 
> > the process to attach the PCI channel using qvm-pci -a command in Dom0. 
> > When I checked the Win7 Devices in VM Manager I see 00:14.0 USB Controller 
> > ...
> > 
> > What I can't figure out is how to get the domain to boot from the USB stick 
> > nor have my searches been fruitful. When I try to boot the domain I get a 
> > PCI error that isn't displayed long enough for me to make a note of it. The 
> > log file for the domain in VM Manager is greyed out.
> > 
> > I'm stuck.
> 
> Attack the stick using qvm-usb and then use the qvm-start windowsvmname 
> --drive=windowsvmname:/dev/xvdi
qvm-usb -l shows my stick at dom0:3-2
qvm-usb -a Win7 dom0:3-2 gives the error message "VM Win7 not running". Win7 is 
an HVM template that has no boot information and therefore won't start.

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[qubes-users] Clear Containers in Qubes

2016-11-29 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
Are Intel Clear Containers technology a viable alternative to VMs currently 
used by Qubes? According to Intel, the Clear Containers are supposed to be 
regular containers (similar to Docker) but with isolation enforced by VT-x

https://clearlinux.org/blogs/intel%C2%AE-clear-containers-20-announced-dockercon-16

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[qubes-users] Re: How to install Win 7 x64 from a USB stick

2016-11-29 Thread Grzesiek Chodzicki
W dniu wtorek, 29 listopada 2016 17:17:03 UTC+1 użytkownik 
stevemic...@gmail.com napisał:
> I'm a total newbie. I've been searching for a howto to boot the Win7 domain 
> from a USB stick so that Windows installs from the USB stick. I went thru the 
> process to attach the PCI channel using qvm-pci -a command in Dom0. When I 
> checked the Win7 Devices in VM Manager I see 00:14.0 USB Controller ...
> 
> What I can't figure out is how to get the domain to boot from the USB stick 
> nor have my searches been fruitful. When I try to boot the domain I get a PCI 
> error that isn't displayed long enough for me to make a note of it. The log 
> file for the domain in VM Manager is greyed out.
> 
> I'm stuck.

Attack the stick using qvm-usb and then use the qvm-start windowsvmname 
--drive=windowsvmname:/dev/xvdi

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[qubes-users] Re: HCL submission : Dell Precision 5510

2016-11-29 Thread Brian Skinner
> >> Qubes 3.2 on a new Dell Precision 5510 ... seems to be working fine
> 
> Yes, I have the NVMe drive, and it seems to be working fine. 

Great! Thanks for the info. I'll go ahead with my own order from Dell now.


> > How has the battery life been for you with the Dell Precision 5510? 
> 
> No idea, I only really have the laptop since saturday, so a bit early to 
> judge. In any case, I generally see ~6h estimae in the panel, with the 
> 6-cell battery.

A 6h estimate sounds good. That's an encouraging sign. 

Thanks for sharing your experiences.

:o) Brian


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[qubes-users] How to install Win 7 x64 from a USB stick

2016-11-29 Thread stevemichaelphone
I'm a total newbie. I've been searching for a howto to boot the Win7 domain 
from a USB stick so that Windows installs from the USB stick. I went thru the 
process to attach the PCI channel using qvm-pci -a command in Dom0. When I 
checked the Win7 Devices in VM Manager I see 00:14.0 USB Controller ...

What I can't figure out is how to get the domain to boot from the USB stick nor 
have my searches been fruitful. When I try to boot the domain I get a PCI error 
that isn't displayed long enough for me to make a note of it. The log file for 
the domain in VM Manager is greyed out.

I'm stuck. 

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Re: [qubes-users] GUI Daemon error with new fedora-24-minimal template

2016-11-29 Thread 'Vincent Adultman' via qubes-users
It looks like template uploaded to 3.1 repository was built for Qubes
3.2, so this is why it's incompatible. I've just removed this faulty
template, building new one - will be ready in few hours.

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Whoops. Thanks Marek. Will uninstall it and wait a bit then. Seems like I'm an 
oddball still using 3.1 and fedora-minimal if I'm the first to run into it!

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Re: [qubes-users] GUI Daemon error with new fedora-24-minimal template

2016-11-29 Thread Marek Marczykowski-Górecki
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> Hi all
> 
> Qubes 3.1
> 
> Have downloaded the new qubes-template- fedora-24-minimal however on starting 
> it the following message is received
> 
> "Dom0 GUI daemon do not support protocol version 1:1 requested by VM. To 
> update Dom0..." etc
> 
> Does the template require a version of gui currently only in testing repo? 
> I'd have imagined yum would have warned me if so.

It looks like template uploaded to 3.1 repository was built for Qubes
3.2, so this is why it's incompatible. I've just removed this faulty
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[qubes-users] GUI Daemon error with new fedora-24-minimal template

2016-11-29 Thread 'Vincent Adultman' via qubes-users
Hi all

Qubes 3.1

Have downloaded the new qubes-template- fedora-24-minimal however on starting 
it the following message is received

"Dom0 GUI daemon do not support protocol version 1:1 requested by VM. To update 
Dom0..." etc

Does the template require a version of gui currently only in testing repo? I'd 
have imagined yum would have warned me if so.

Thanks

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[qubes-users] Re: HCL submission : Dell Precision 5510

2016-11-29 Thread Tomas Vondra



Dne 11/29/2016 v 06:10 AM Brian Skinner napsal(a):

On Saturday, November 26, 2016 at 1:03:23 PM UTC-8, Tomas Vondra wrote:

Qubes 3.2 on a new Dell Precision 5510 ... seems to be working fine


Hi Tomas,

Thank you for posting your HCL report. I'm planning to buy a Dell 5510 laptop 
soon and it's great to have some reassurance that Qubes 3.2 will run smoothly 
on it!

Did you get your laptop with the PCIe NVMe drive? I've heard that those drives 
can be a problem for some Linux installations, so I'm hoping you can reassure 
me on that too.


Yes, I have the NVMe drive, and it seems to be working fine. I suspect 
it might be related to the UEFI issues (unable to boot from NVMe or 
something), but I might bee wrong. In any case, it works for me.




How has the battery life been for you with the Dell Precision 5510? I'll be 
curious to see how the battery life compares when running Qubes 3.2 vs. Ubuntu 
16.04 vs. Windows.



No idea, I only really have the laptop since saturday, so a bit early to 
judge. In any case, I generally see ~6h estimae in the panel, with the 
6-cell battery.


regards
Tomas

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 3.1 on Skylake NUC?

2016-11-29 Thread aesir . magnus
On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 10:35:09 PM UTC-5, mwi...@mattwilson.org wrote:

> I have a new i3 Skylake NUC (NUC6i3SYK) and am trying to install Qubes OS 3.1 
> on it. Unfortunately, it's not working.

3.2 is working great on my NUC6i3SYK. Have you tried it yet? I'm typing this 
message from it now.

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