[qubes-users] Re: Setting up privateinternetaccess on qubes 3.2

[john]

On 03/27/18 13:49, velcro-2xk3N/kkaK1Wk0Htik3J/w...@public.gmane.org wrote:

My Fedora setup is still working great. Passes OpenDNS check when they are 
added to config, reconnects generally after I turn off my wireless.

I am trying to get this to work with a stock Debian9 template(upgraded from 
Debian8 with stock install).

I can't seem to get it to work with Debian, the closest I have come is to a pop-up alert 
saying "Ready to connect" or words to that effect. I feel like I am missing a 
basic step in adding OpenVPN. I am adding the following commands:

su
apt-get install openvpn
apt-get install nautilus
apt-get install network-manager-openvpn-gnome   ?

It just works using the Fedora 26 template(Not minimal template)...

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance...




Velcro,
Why don't you use the Qubes Docs, and use the command line setup,  not 
network manager,  in the long run , it will less of a puzzle IMO.


PS: can you be more explicit what your saying, are you saying  VPN works 
using a Fed-26  template but not a Debian-9  version ?


I don't think anyone can help you if you don't state, what you are 
doing, and what does and doesn't work  :)


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Re: [qubes-users] IMG sharing

[Ivan Mitev]

On 04/24/2018 08:14 AM, Drew White wrote:
> Is it possible for every guest to share one virtual drive for cacheing and 
> auto mounting to same location for file transfers?

It isn't possible unless you set up a clustered file system, which
implies having in-band or out-of-band communication channels between
guests. This breaks compartmentalization, which is Qubes' raison d'etre,
so if you really need this you're better off ditching Qubes and go with
plain kvm (or xen) VMs.


> i.e. One file always mounted to each guest and one reads while one writes. 
> etc. no need to mount and unmount? And it can be multiple images on different 
> locations at once?
> 

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[qubes-users] Re: IMG sharing

[Drew White]

Is it possible in Q4?

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[qubes-users] IMG sharing

[Drew White]

Is it possible for every guest to share one virtual drive for cacheing and auto 
mounting to same location for file transfers?

i.e. One file always mounted to each guest and one reads while one writes. etc. 
no need to mount and unmount? And it can be multiple images on different 
locations at once?

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Re: [qubes-users] Windows 10 Os in Qubes 4.0

[Ivan Mitev]

Hi,

On 04/23/2018 11:38 PM, Black Beard wrote:
> 
> Hey community,
> 
> tommorow i want finished my Qubes installation on my Notebook. 
> Since I need some programs that only runs on Windows, I now ask myself the 
> question, how can I install Windows on Qubes?

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-vm/

I'd suggest installing Windows 7 over Windows 10 if you don't have
specific requirements: win7 uses lower resources, is more tested by
other Qubes users, and you can install Qubes Windows Tools (although
it's a bit convoluted and there are known issues on 4.0 - see the doc).


> Do I risk my privacy with the additional windows installation?

That depends on what you do with your windows VM :)

For instance my windows VM doesn't have internet access, I only allow
manually the windows update sites when I need to update something so I
should be OK. I always consider it "untrusted" anyway.


> I thought about Virtualbox, but that's also a virtual machine.

I don't think you can run Virtualbox in Qubes anyway (nested
virtualization), and if you do it'll be inefficient.


> What about Linux Wine?

I used it a long time ago before using Qubes, it was a hit or miss
depending on the program you'd run. You'll probably have issues with
graphics if your program uses openGL (qubes doesn't support it). If you
need a windows VM only to run one or two windows apps, then yes, you
should try to install wine first and test if it works - if it does it'll
be much more resource efficient than using a full-blown VM.

hope this helps !
ivan


> 
> Of course, I'm looking forward to your help again.
> 
> regards
> 

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Re: [qubes-users] GPG setting stuck on copying keys to another VM

[Ivan Mitev]

Hi,


On 04/23/2018 09:54 PM, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote:
> I am stuck with the process of settign up my gpg based on this guide: 
> https://apapadop.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/using-gnupg-with-qubesos 
> 

This guide is old and doesn't include split-gpg, which you may prefer
over copying keypairs to VMs; see

https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/split-gpg/


> After executing the 
> qvm-copy-to-vm personal whatever_gpg_p*_lesser.key
> ...I get this:
> 
> user@vault:~$ qvm-copy-to-vm personal wahatever_gpg p*_lesser.key
> qvm-copy-to-vm/qvm-move-to-vm tools are deprecated,
> use qvm-copy/qvm-move to avoid typing target qube name twice
> qfile-agent: Fatal error: stat whatever_gpg (error type: No such file or 
> directory)
> Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
> 
> Any idea how to proceed?

The error above is what you get when files aren't found (same as in your
next post). Are you sure that the "whatever_gpg_p*_lesser.key" glob is
OK ? What does `ls -l whatever_gpg_p*_lesser.key` show ?

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[qubes-users] KDE in v4.0.1 - Template updates?

[dcyberdoc]

Thank you in advance for your time & help. 

Due to scaling issues with a 4K laptop screen, I’ve switched from XFCE to KDE 
in DOM0. What other steps to fully implement? Is there work to do within the 
Tenplates (Fedora-26, Debian9, Arch and Whonix) to get them to look better and 
scale correctly?

Thanks again,
=rk=

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[qubes-users] Make not functioning, what am I missing?

[Drew White]

Hi folks,

I'm trying to make this, but it's not functioning. 

What am I missing please?

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DKMS make.log for evdi-1.2.65 for kernel 4.9.45-21.pvops.qubes.x86_64 (x86_64)
Tue Apr 24 23:31:57 AEST 2018
make KBUILD_VERBOSE=1 SUBDIRS=/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build 
SRCROOT=/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build CONFIG_MODULE_SIG= -C 
/lib/modules/4.9.45-21.pvops.qubes.x86_64/build modules
make[1]: Entering directory '/usr/src/kernels/4.9.45-21.pvops.qubes.x86_64'
test -e include/generated/autoconf.h -a -e include/config/auto.conf || (
\
echo >&2;   \
echo >&2 "  ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";   \
echo >&2 " include/generated/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are 
missing.";\
echo >&2 " Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare' on kernel src to fix 
it.";  \
echo >&2 ;  \
/bin/false)
mkdir -p /var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/.tmp_versions ; rm -f 
/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/.tmp_versions/*
make -f ./scripts/Makefile.build obj=/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build
  gcc -Wp,-MD,/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/.evdi_drv.o.d  -nostdinc -isystem 
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/5.3.1/include -I./arch/x86/include 
-I./arch/x86/include/generated/uapi -I./arch/x86/include/generated  -I./include 
-I./arch/x86/include/uapi -I./include/uapi -I./include/generated/uapi -include 
./include/linux/kconfig.h -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common 
-Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Wno-format-security -std=gnu89 -fno-PIE 
-mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -mno-avx -m64 -falign-jumps=1 
-falign-loops=1 -mno-80387 -mno-fp-ret-in-387 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3 
-mskip-rax-setup -mtune=generic -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time 
-maccumulate-outgoing-args -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 
-DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -DCONFIG_AS_SSSE3=1 
-DCONFIG_AS_CRC32=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX2=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX512=1 
-DCONFIG_AS_SHA1_NI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_SHA256_NI=1 -pipe -Wno-sign-compare 
-fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -O2 
--param=allow-store-data-races=0 -DCC_HAVE_ASM_GOTO 
-fplugin=./scripts/gcc-plugins/latent_entropy_plugin.so -DLATENT_ENTROPY_PLUGIN 
-Wframe-larger-than=2048 -fstack-protector-strong -Wno-unused-but-set-variable 
-fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls 
-fno-var-tracking-assignments -pg -mfentry -DCC_USING_FENTRY 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -fno-strict-overflow 
-fconserve-stack -Werror=implicit-int -Werror=strict-prototypes 
-Werror=date-time -Werror=incompatible-pointer-types -Iinclude/drm  -DMODULE  
-DKBUILD_BASENAME='"evdi_drv"'  -DKBUILD_MODNAME='"evdi"' -c -o 
/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/evdi_drv.o 
/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/evdi_drv.c
  gcc -Wp,-MD,/var/lib/dkms/evdi/1.2.65/build/.evdi_modeset.o.d  -nostdinc 
-isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-redhat-linux/5.3.1/include -I./arch/x86/include 
-I./arch/x86/include/generated/uapi -I./arch/x86/include/generated  -I./include 
-I./arch/x86/include/uapi -I./include/uapi -I./include/generated/uapi -include 
./include/linux/kconfig.h -D__KERNEL__ -Wall -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes 
-Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common 
-Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Wno-format-security -std=gnu89 -fno-PIE 
-mno-sse -mno-mmx -mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -mno-avx -m64 -falign-jumps=1 
-falign-loops=1 -mno-80387 -mno-fp-ret-in-387 -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3 
-mskip-rax-setup -mtune=generic -mno-red-zone -mcmodel=kernel -funit-at-a-time 
-maccumulate-outgoing-args -DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 
-DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SECTIONS=1 -DCONFIG_AS_FXSAVEQ=1 -DCONFIG_AS_SSSE3=1 
-DCONFIG_AS_CRC32=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX2=1 -DCONFIG_AS_AVX512=1 
-DCONFIG_AS_SHA1_NI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_SHA256_NI=1 -pipe -Wno-sign-compare 
-fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -fno-delete-null-pointer-checks -O2 
--param=allow-store-data-races=0 -DCC_HAVE_ASM_GOTO 
-fplugin=./scripts/gcc-plugins/latent_entropy_plugin.so -DLATENT_ENTROPY_PLUGIN 
-Wframe-larger-than=2048 -fstack-protector-strong -Wno-unused-but-set-variable 
-fno-omit-frame-pointer -fno-optimize-sibling-calls 
-fno-var-tracking-assignments -pg -mfentry -DCC_USING_FENTRY 
-Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign -fno-strict-overflow 
-fconserve-stack -Werror=implicit-int -Werror=strict-prototypes 

[qubes-users] Windows 10 Os in Qubes 4.0

[Black Beard]

Hey community,

tommorow i want finished my Qubes installation on my Notebook. 
Since I need some programs that only runs on Windows, I now ask myself the 
question, how can I install Windows on Qubes?

Do I risk my privacy with the additional windows installation?

I thought about Virtualbox, but that's also a virtual machine.

What about Linux Wine?

Of course, I'm looking forward to your help again.

regards

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[qubes-users] Qubes Os4 very slowly comparing to Qubes 3.2

[frkla1234]

Hi!

To start qubes os 4 takes a very long time comparing to Qubes os 3.2 (The 
double time or more) Is that normal? Also to start a new qube takes a lot of 
time. I realised also that the different qubes need more ram than before. 

Is this only a behavior of my computer or is this in general? 

I have an asus notebook i7 6500 u processor with 8gb ram and ssd

Thanks for the answers!

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Re: [qubes-users] Cant update fedora-26 template in Q4.0

[viq]

On 18-04-23 18:42:04, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote:
> 
> Hi, I cant update  successfully fedora-26 template. 
> 
> I try to update fedora-26 template and I get following:
> 
> Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'qubes-vm-r4.0-current'
> Done.
> Press Enter to shutdown the template, or Ctrl-C to just close this window.
> 
> Any ideas? Thank you!

Look in /etc/yum.repos.d/qubes* and change http:// to https://

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Re: [qubes-users] GPG setting stuck on copying keys to another VM

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After research I executed the new command Q4.0. I get now this error:

user@vault:~$ qvm-copy personal whatever_gpg p*_lesser.key
qfile-agent: Fatal error: stat personal (error type: No such file or directory)
/usr/lib/qubes/qubes-rpc-multiplexer: 14: 
/etc/profile.d/20_power_savings_disable_in_vms.sh: shopt: not found
Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
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23. Apr 2018 20:54 by qubes-...@tutanota.com :


> I am stuck with the process of settign up my gpg based on this guide: > 
> https://apapadop.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/using-gnupg-with-qubesos 
> 
>
> After executing the 
> qvm-copy-to-vm personal whatever_gpg_p*_lesser.key
> ...I get this:
>
> user@vault:~$ qvm-copy-to-vm personal wahatever_gpg p*_lesser.key
> qvm-copy-to-vm/qvm-move-to-vm tools are deprecated,
> use qvm-copy/qvm-move to avoid typing target qube name twice
> qfile-agent: Fatal error: stat whatever_gpg (error type: No such file or 
> directory)
> Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.
>
> Any idea how to proceed?
>   
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[qubes-users] GPG setting stuck on copying keys to another VM

[qubes-fan]

I am stuck with the process of settign up my gpg based on this guide: 
https://apapadop.wordpress.com/2013/08/21/using-gnupg-with-qubesos 


After executing the 
qvm-copy-to-vm personal whatever_gpg_p*_lesser.key
...I get this:

user@vault:~$ qvm-copy-to-vm personal wahatever_gpg p*_lesser.key
qvm-copy-to-vm/qvm-move-to-vm tools are deprecated,
use qvm-copy/qvm-move to avoid typing target qube name twice
qfile-agent: Fatal error: stat whatever_gpg (error type: No such file or 
directory)
Gtk-Message: GtkDialog mapped without a transient parent. This is discouraged.

Any idea how to proceed?

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Re: [qubes-users] AppVM doesnt offer the option to open file in a DVM

[donoban]

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On 04/23/18 19:19, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded and saved the .pdf and .jpeg files in the anon-whonix 
> AppVM. Now I try to open the file in a dvm but afer rightclick I
> dont see the option to "Open in Disposable VM".


Are you using dolphin or gwenview? With dolphin I can see the option
but not in gwenview and torbrowser uses gwenview when you click 'Open
Containing Folder'
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Re: [qubes-users] Help with setting up qubes domains structure

[donoban]

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On 04/23/18 18:01, qubes-...@tutanota.com wrote:
> I have a very similar setup of domains as mentioned by Joanna in
> the article. What I am missing are the settings of the TemplateVMs
> for the mentioned AppVMs. What additional apps are installed in
> which TemplateVM and why.
> 
> I understand it is a personal question, but it would help a lot to
> see whole picture with reasons for this or that setup. If all the
> AppVMs are just used with the preset Templates debian-9, fedora-26
> and whonix, or there are some custom ones. Like Joanna is
> mentioning she is using her work-pub AppVM for presentations. Is it
> like preparing presentations with Libreoffice installed in a
> debian-9 TemplateVM for example, or is there an another TemplateVM
> dedicated to this task? If there is, why so?

You can install apps on defaults templates and choice between debian
or fedora is more a personal decision (you trust more one than other,
you like this for some app since it has a more recent version or it's
not available on the other, etc...).

You can add more templates cloning the defaults and modifying them, or
installing some of the community supported or building one yourself.[1]

If you need to install some software not included in the distribution,
you should clone the template and use it with the AppVM which need
that program. You can also use an StandaloneVM if you only need it for
one AppVM.

Installing software from official distribution repositories should be
considered safe but in some cases you could like to use a cloned
template. For example when you want to compile source on some AppVM
but don't want to install a lot of libs and dev packages on the main
template.

Finally is a trade-off between security and hard disk usage. It's
unlikely that a template gets compromised but it could happen and in
some case it's good idea to split your AppVM on different ones.

[1] https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates/
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[qubes-users] AppVM doesnt offer the option to open file in a DVM

[qubes-fan]

Hi, 

I downloaded and saved the .pdf and .jpeg files in the anon-whonix AppVM. Now I 
try to open the file in a dvm but afer rightclick I dont see the option to 
"Open in Disposable VM". 

I understand the whonix-ws-dvm is assigned to the anon-whonix AppVM, and it 
should be avialable in the anon-whonix by default, right?

Where do I make the mistake? 

Thank you!

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[qubes-users] Cant update fedora-26 template in Q4.0

[qubes-fan]

Hi, I cant update  successfully fedora-26 template. 

I try to update fedora-26 template and I get following:

Error: Failed to synchronize cache for repo 'qubes-vm-r4.0-current'
Done.
Press Enter to shutdown the template, or Ctrl-C to just close this window.

Any ideas? Thank you!

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[qubes-users] Help with setting up qubes domains structure

[qubes-fan]

Hi, I went carefully through the 
https://blog.invisiblethings.org/2011/03/13/partitioning-my-digital-life-into.html
 

 article and would like to get more insight. I am trying to set my structure of 
cubes up, and looking for the inputs and ideas. Also I know the thread modeling 
is a key every time and there is no fit-for-all layout, but the logic behind 
would be nice to see.

I have a very similar setup of domains as mentioned by Joanna in the article. 
What I am missing are the settings of the TemplateVMs  for the mentioned 
AppVMs. What additional apps are installed in which TemplateVM and why. 

I understand it is a personal question, but it would help a lot to see whole 
picture with reasons for this or that setup. If all the AppVMs are just used 
with the preset Templates debian-9, fedora-26 and whonix, or there are some 
custom ones. 
Like Joanna is mentioning she is using her work-pub AppVM for presentations. Is 
it like preparing presentations with Libreoffice  installed in a debian-9 
TemplateVM for example, or is there an another TemplateVM dedicated to this 
task? If there is, why so?

Maybe some more experienced user could clear this more for me? 

Thanks

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 on USB Drive Windows Install Problems

[Campbell]

On Monday, April 23, 2018 at 6:26:04 AM UTC-7, myblackc...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey Campbell,
> 
> i install Fedora on Virtualbox and copy the Image successfully on my USB 
> Stick.
> 
> The Stick seen as Efi, but again the same probleme that i can see shortly 
> some Linux promps and after a black screen. 
> 
> Here are my Bios settings:
> 
> https://picload.org/view/dorgorpl/img_2 ... 4.jpg.html
> 
> https://picload.org/view/dorgorpi/img_2 ... 9.jpg.html
> 
> Can you maybe help me?
> 
> regards and thx in advance

Are you saying that you cannot install Qubes to the new USB? I am able to boot 
onto the Install USB (ISO)and go through the entire installation with all of 
the appropriate screens and prompts and boot once into the new USB. My problem 
comes on subsequent reboots of the Qubes USB the BIOS does not boot the Qubes 
USB.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes not boot from USB Stick

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On Mon, April 23, 2018 12:25 pm, myblackcatisb...@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey,
>
>
> Qubes will not boot.
>
>
> For this probleme i install Fedora on Virtualbox and copy the Image with
> the command "dd if=Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M && sync"
> successfully on my device.
>
> The probleme by this the Stick boot and i can see some Linux commands.
> After this, the screen is only black and nothing happened.

https://www.mail-archive.com/qubes-users@googlegroups.com/msg21407.html


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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4 on USB Drive Windows Install Problems

[myblackcatisback]

Hey Campbell,

i install Fedora on Virtualbox and copy the Image successfully on my USB Stick.

The Stick seen as Efi, but again the same probleme that i can see shortly some 
Linux promps and after a black screen. 

Here are my Bios settings:

https://picload.org/view/dorgorpl/img_2 ... 4.jpg.html

https://picload.org/view/dorgorpi/img_2 ... 9.jpg.html

Can you maybe help me?

regards and thx in advance

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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes not boot from USB Stick

[myblackcatisback]

Hey,

Qubes will not boot. 

For this probleme i install Fedora on Virtualbox and copy the Image with the 
command "dd if=Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M && sync" successfully on 
my device.

The probleme by this the Stick boot and i can see some Linux commands. After 
this, the screen is only black and nothing happened.

This are my Bios settings:

https://picload.org/view/dorgorpl/img_2 ... 4.jpg.html

https://picload.org/view/dorgorpi/img_2 ... 9.jpg.html

Hope, that someone can help.

regards



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[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4 on USB Not Rebooting

[myblackcatisback]

Hey,

i have the same problems and Qubes 4.0 not want  boot from the USB Device.

For this probleme i install Fedora on Virtualbox and copy the Image with the 
command "dd if=Qubes-R4.0-x86_64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M && sync" successfully on 
my device.

The probleme by this the Stick boot and i can see some Linux commands. After 
this, the screen is only black and nothing happened. 

This are my Bios settings: 

https://picload.org/view/dorgorpl/img_2 ... 4.jpg.html

https://picload.org/view/dorgorpi/img_2 ... 9.jpg.html

Hope, that someone can help.

regards


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Re: [qubes-users] Small Templates

[Ivan Mitev]

On 04/23/2018 09:45 AM, Drew White wrote:
[...]
>> Re- systemd: I never had a crash related to it - be it on my Qubes
>> install or on the servers I administrate. With my experience as a
>> sysadmin I can tell you that systemd is a reliable, well thought out
>> collection of programs and thanks to it I don't have to write kludges to
>> work around deficiencies in sysV anymore. It takes a bit of time to
>> learn though, which is probably why people criticize it (leaving aside
>> conspiracy theories).
> 
> I've had my system freeze,and I wonder why. 
> I reboot and check my logs, and it's something that caused systemd to just 
> stop working. and that was a bland install, and systemd stopped. everything 
> runs under sysstemd, where it used to be everything was separate. so if 
> systemd stops, everything stops. that is windows methodology. (That's when i 
> lost interest in systemd and it has not changed.

I see that you're upset with systemd but if I were you I'd try to debug
the cause of your problem and submit an issue/bug report so that fellow
users don't run into the same problem.

As a side note I didn't test to kill systemd (PID 1) but I sort of
expect that the whole system would go down if PID 1 "stops". It's not
different from sysV's PID 1 init.

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Re: [qubes-users] Cant create Windows App VM based on a template

[Ivan Mitev]

On 04/23/2018 01:46 PM, galt...@gmail.com wrote:
> Thank you very much, that had worked.

great !

if you have other issues (and/or find workarounds) please post them to
this thread, or in:

https://github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/3585

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Re: [qubes-users] Cant create Windows App VM based on a template

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Thank you very much, that had worked.

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Re: [qubes-users] Cant create Windows App VM based on a template

[Ivan Mitev]

On 04/23/2018 11:15 AM, galt...@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone?

That's not something I tested when writing the windows VM doc, it looks
like another issue with QWT under 4.0.

I just tried to create a win AppVM based on a template (if anyone else
wants to try, see steps below) and indeed, the private disk is not
configured; it's not missing though - you can format it and attach it to
d: in windows' disk manager. Obviously the user profile folders will be
missing ; one workaround is to recreate them (didn't test it) or to copy
the templateVM's private disk, like so:

sudo dd conv=sparse if=/dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-vm--test2--private
of=/dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-vm--my--new--qube--private

("test2" is the windows TemplateVM, "my-new-qube" is an AppVM based on
the "test2" TemplateVM ; I don't know if conv=sparse helps).

That's really "low-level" and error-prone so be extra careful with dd;
maybe there are higher level qubes* (or LVM) tools that can perform
that, I didn't have time to check

Once the private disk is copied everything seems to work ; I only get a
popup for xen stuff asking me to restart the VM but simply clicking "no"
is enough.


steps:
- clone a working windows install into a TemplateVM (qvm-clone --class)
- create an AppVM based on this TemplateVM (had to fix the following
prefs because they weren't set properly: kernel, maxmem, memory, virt_mode
- replicate the private disk with `dd`
- start the new AppVM

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[qubes-users] Cant create Windows App VM based on a template

[galthop]

Anyone?

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Re: [qubes-users] Small Templates

[Drew White]

On Monday, 23 April 2018 15:23:04 UTC+10, Ivan Mitev  wrote:
> On 04/23/2018 07:32 AM, Drew White wrote:
> > On Saturday, 21 April 2018 11:56:04 UTC+10, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)  wrote:
> >> I haven't had a system crash in months
> >> while using Qubes OS, and I haven't had a systemd-related crash in Y E A
> >> R S.  Literally YEARS since a systemd bug caused a kernel panic (because
> >> that's how a systemd crash looks like, it's an init-related panic).
> > 
> > That only means you don't do enough to push Qubes hard enough like I do.
> 
> FWIW I've been using Qubes *exclusively* for the past 2.5 years and I
> probably had less than half a dozen crashes over that period, which is
> consistent with what I had with plain Fedora before (and then the
> crashes would happen because of exotic stuff like undocking/docking the
> laptop while suspended, with many USB devices plugged and additional
> screens, so they are probably not related to Qubes).
 
Yeah, it isn't very Laptop-Docking friendly (yet). But my issues are mainly 
with a workstation. My Laptop doesn't do it because I shut it down every night 
because of docking issues with Qubes.

Normally Qubes runs fine. But so much drive space is used. That's why I wanted 
some small templates without the "crap" that just consumes resources. The 
minimal template still has a lot. 

So I was just hoping for a real minimal version of things. That was all this 
thread was about.

> Except the usual mail/web surfing/office stuff I transcode videos, use
> windows VMs with heavy CAD and 3d modeling software, or Fedora VMs with
> QGIS and huge data sets, and I never had a system crash because of high
> resource usage. Curious about you mean by "pushing hard", and if you
> tried the same usage pattern that you get crashes with on plain fedora.

I have 18 guests running most of the time these days on my workstation.
That includes the sys-net, sys-firewall, anon-gw, and many more.
They are always doing things and consuming RAM and CPU.
For windows I run XP through to 10. For testing purposes.
I have compilers running for compiling software.
I have browsers open running things from Debian and Fedora and Whonix.
I have 90% of my RAM used most of the time.
My CPU sits high usage, 75%+.

 
> Re- systemd: I never had a crash related to it - be it on my Qubes
> install or on the servers I administrate. With my experience as a
> sysadmin I can tell you that systemd is a reliable, well thought out
> collection of programs and thanks to it I don't have to write kludges to
> work around deficiencies in sysV anymore. It takes a bit of time to
> learn though, which is probably why people criticize it (leaving aside
> conspiracy theories).

I've had my system freeze,and I wonder why. 
I reboot and check my logs, and it's something that caused systemd to just stop 
working. and that was a bland install, and systemd stopped. everything runs 
under sysstemd, where it used to be everything was separate. so if systemd 
stops, everything stops. that is windows methodology. (That's when i lost 
interest in systemd and it has not changed.

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Re: [qubes-users] Small Templates

[Drew White]

On Monday, 23 April 2018 15:23:04 UTC+10, Ivan Mitev  wrote:
> On 04/23/2018 07:32 AM, Drew White wrote:
> > On Saturday, 21 April 2018 11:56:04 UTC+10, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O)  wrote:
> >> I haven't had a system crash in months
> >> while using Qubes OS, and I haven't had a systemd-related crash in Y E A
> >> R S.  Literally YEARS since a systemd bug caused a kernel panic (because
> >> that's how a systemd crash looks like, it's an init-related panic).
> > 
> > That only means you don't do enough to push Qubes hard enough like I do.
> 
> FWIW I've been using Qubes *exclusively* for the past 2.5 years and I
> probably had less than half a dozen crashes over that period, which is
> consistent with what I had with plain Fedora before (and then the
> crashes would happen because of exotic stuff like undocking/docking the
> laptop while suspended, with many USB devices plugged and additional
> screens, so they are probably not related to Qubes).
> 
> Except the usual mail/web surfing/office stuff I transcode videos, use
> windows VMs with heavy CAD and 3d modeling software, or Fedora VMs with
> QGIS and huge data sets, and I never had a system crash because of high
> resource usage. Curious about you mean by "pushing hard", and if you
> tried the same usage pattern that you get crashes with on plain fedora.
> 
> Re- systemd: I never had a crash related to it - be it on my Qubes
> install or on the servers I administrate. With my experience as a
> sysadmin I can tell you that systemd is a reliable, well thought out
> collection of programs and thanks to it I don't have to write kludges to
> work around deficiencies in sysV anymore. It takes a bit of time to
> learn though, which is probably why people criticize it (leaving aside
> conspiracy theories).

I just hate that systemd being put into linux makes linux like windows.
That is the issue that made me start to hate it in the first place.

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