[qubes-users] QWT and win updates

2019-03-12 Thread Franz
I installed again windows following this
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/windows-vm/#xen-pv-drivers-and-qubes-windows-tools

Windows now is working and fully updated but no additional driver is
installed.

Reading this tutorial many times, for me, it is not yet clear what the
following means:

"If you plan to update your newly installed Windows VM it is recommended
that you do so *before* installing Qubes Windows Tools (QWT). If QWT are
installed, you should temporarily re-enable the standard VGA adapter in
Windows and disable Qubes’ (see the section above)."

Does it mean that once QWT is installed I can no more regularly update my
system, unless every time remember to do some strange and not well
understood VGA tweaking?

This seems very strange because on 3.2 I always updated windows even if QWT
was already installed, with no issues.

So did this really change with Qubes 4.0

Best

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[qubes-users] Re: dispvm browser retains information

2019-03-12 Thread Jon deps

On 3/12/19 4:34 PM, unman wrote:

On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 08:35:04AM +, Jon deps wrote:

Hello,  in Thunderbird when I do open-in-vm and check firefox it has
retained bookmarks from a previous session,

I believe this is Not how DVMs are supposed to work ?


If so how would I troubleshoot and/or  remove  old  DVM data sesssions
please


You're right. It isn't how disposableVMs are supposed to work.

The obvious question is, what did you select when you "did" open-in-vm?
If you selected an appVM, have you made sure that you have made that
appVM in to a template for disposableVMs?
(qvm-prefs  template_for_dispvms True)

Also check to see what you have set in
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.OpeninVM  and
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.OpenURL

unman




What I did/have done is for secure printing(per Qubes docs advice) , 
cloned fedora-29 -> fedora-29printtemplate,  then I use the clone as the 
template for an AppVM (named fedoraprintqube).


when I do :
$qvm-prefs fedoraprintqube

template - fedora-29printtemplate
template_for_dispvms - True

$qubes-prefs

default_dispvm - fedoraprintqube


re: "what did I choose"  there is only 1 choice  in Thunderbird
Open-in-dispvm

right click and choose and it open the atttachment in a dispvm


re: rpc policy  everything is as default setup


further the AppVM in which Thunderbird is  running  has it's  default 
DispVM  set to:  fedoraprintqube




is there some  directory  I  should  clear  where  dispVM  information 
would be stored to  perhaps  reset  the system ?



or any further ideas  welcome  regards

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Re: [qubes-users] #ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, but still not installing in Qubes 4.0

2019-03-12 Thread Chris Laprise

On 3/12/19 2:23 PM, Sergio Matta wrote:

Dear Stumpy

I am not part of ReactOS team. I am just a user. It was running when I was 
using Qubes 3.2.

"I just ask because it seems to me that the reactos project would be
perfect for those of us that are forced to run some win apps."
I tottaly agree with you!

"Just curious about if/how much they are prioritizing VM guest support - and how 
hard/easy that would be?"
I do not know. And the problem is the same for chromeOS and android iso 
installations.


If their project came to terms with the historic vulnerabilities of the 
Windows architecture, then it would be a natural step for them to 
emphasize vm guest support. Their apparent emphasis on bare metal tells 
me they are probably more focused on supporting high performance games.


We still have a choice between running real Windows, or WINE in Linux. 
The nice thing about WINE is, if you know your apps will run on it, then 
you have a system that is much easier to maintain than Windows itself.


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Re: [qubes-users] #ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, but still not installing in Qubes 4.0

2019-03-12 Thread Sergio Matta
Dear Stumpy

I am not part of ReactOS team. I am just a user. It was running when I was 
using Qubes 3.2.

"I just ask because it seems to me that the reactos project would be 
perfect for those of us that are forced to run some win apps."
I tottaly agree with you!

"Just curious about if/how much they are prioritizing VM guest support - and 
how hard/easy that would be?"
I do not know. And the problem is the same for chromeOS and android iso 
installations.

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Re: [qubes-users] Installing Qubes 4.0 on a Dell XPS 9570 i9

2019-03-12 Thread me
On Sunday, August 19, 2018 at 12:12:25 PM UTC-4, Wael Nasreddine wrote:
> try appending the kernel param nouveau.modeset=0
> 
> I purchased and returned this laptop because it does not fully work with 
> Linux, I have a Precision 7530 now, much better. See my notes at 
> https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/44284
> 
> 
Hi Wael, 
 I am having trouble installing Qubes 4.0.1 on a Dell Precision 7530.
How did you get yours setup? Legacy mode? Any tips or tricks you can pass along 
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Paul

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Re: [qubes-users] dispvm browser retains information

2019-03-12 Thread unman
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 08:35:04AM +, Jon deps wrote:
> Hello,  in Thunderbird when I do open-in-vm and check firefox it has
> retained bookmarks from a previous session,
> 
> I believe this is Not how DVMs are supposed to work ?
> 
> 
> If so how would I troubleshoot and/or  remove  old  DVM data sesssions
> please

You're right. It isn't how disposableVMs are supposed to work.

The obvious question is, what did you select when you "did" open-in-vm?
If you selected an appVM, have you made sure that you have made that
appVM in to a template for disposableVMs?
(qvm-prefs  template_for_dispvms True)

Also check to see what you have set in
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.OpeninVM  and
/etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.OpenURL

unman

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Re: [qubes-users] Issues after Installation

2019-03-12 Thread unman
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 09:42:09AM -0400, Joe Ragno wrote:
> So after enabling Virtualization, I get a new error on the sys-net and
> sys-firewall that reads:
> Domain sys-net has failed to start: internal error: libxenlight failed to
> create new domain 'sys-net'
> 
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> 
> On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 8:32 PM unman  wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 10:59:11PM -0800, jra...@delphihealthgroup.com
> > wrote:
> > > I'm not quite sure why however after transferring qubes to my hp probook
> > 11 it will not start any domains at all and every time I get an error
> > message that says:
> > >
> > > "Qube Status: sys-net
> > >
> > >  Domain sys-net failed to start: invalid argument: could not find
> > capabilities for arch=x86_64"
> > >
> > > Also, when clicking the Applications button in the top left corner of
> > the screen and hovering over a domain or template my only option available
> > is Qube Settings.
> > >
> > > Please help!
> > > --
> >
> > The usual cause is that you dont have VT-x enabled: check the BIOS
> > and make sure that you have all virtualisation options enabled.
> >
> > unman
> >

Hi Joe,

The norm on this list is to use bottom posting (like this), rather than
top posting.

The message that you have now suggests an issue with one of the NICs
that you have allocated to sys-net. Confirm this in journalctl.
If you see a message "unable to reset PCI device" then you need to
configure Qubes to work round this.
Have a look at:
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/assigning-devices
(This should be a FAQ because it comes up quite often).

Open the Qube manager, and select sys-net, then open the QubeSettings.
(Right click on qube name, select from Qube Menu, or use icon.)
On the Devices tab you will see the Devices attached to the sys-net
qube.
Click on the "Configure strict reset.." button at the bottom of the
pane, and then select the PCI device and click OK.

See if you can now start sys-net.
If not, please check the logs and report any error message you see.

unman

> Domain sys-net has failed to start: internal error: libxenlight failed to
> create new domain 'sys-net'

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Re: [qubes-users] Structure of qubes

2019-03-12 Thread acharya . sagar . sagar5
I mean Fedora 29 qube above, not template.

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Re: [qubes-users] Structure of qubes

2019-03-12 Thread acharya . sagar . sagar5
Can someone from the qubes managers please try

yumdownloader --resolve xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
yumdownloader --source nvidia-kmod

sudo dnf install kernel-latest-devel-4.20.3-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64.rpm rpm-build 
kmodtool

sudo rpmbuild --nodeps -D "kernels 4.20.3-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64" --rebuild 
nvidia-kmod-410.66-1.fc29.src.rpm

in a Fedora 29 template. This should work according to docs but doesn't with 
the above error.

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[qubes-users] OpenPGP signed websites

2019-03-12 Thread Patrick Schleizer
qubes-...@tutanota.com:
> Feb 23, 2019, 3:50 AM by patrick-mailingli...@whonix.org:
> 
>> Reminds me, would be good to have OpenPGP signed websites all over the
>> internet. Unfortunately there is no project working towards it.
>>
>> https://www.whonix.org/wiki/Dev/OpenPGP_Signed_Website
>>
> 
> Absolutely yes. What is the biggest hindrance to make it more widespread IYHO?

Speculation:

- lack of developer manpower
- lack of problem awareness
- lack of a real world case where such an incident happened which was
then widely popularized

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[qubes-users] Re: #ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, but still not installing in Qubes 4.0

2019-03-12 Thread nosugarmaxtaste
On Wednesday, 13 March 2019 00:20:59 UTC+11, nosugar...@gmail.com  wrote:
> On Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:44:29 UTC+11, Sergio Matta  wrote:
> > ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, more #Software 
> > working thanks to correct manifest loading, #RTL support, new Update 
> > feature... More info: 
> > https://reactos.org/project-news/reactos-0411-released … Download it from: 
> > https://reactos.org/download 
> > It boots but does not recognize any drive to install.
> 
> Meanwhile Android-x86 Orio installs fine and detects the HDD under Qubes, but 
> the Settings app crashes everytime making it useless.

Whoops, nvm me, thought ReactOS was just another Android OS.

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[qubes-users] Re: #ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, but still not installing in Qubes 4.0

2019-03-12 Thread nosugarmaxtaste
On Tuesday, 5 March 2019 05:44:29 UTC+11, Sergio Matta  wrote:
> ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, more #Software 
> working thanks to correct manifest loading, #RTL support, new Update 
> feature... More info: https://reactos.org/project-news/reactos-0411-released 
> … Download it from: https://reactos.org/download 
> It boots but does not recognize any drive to install.

Meanwhile Android-x86 Orio installs fine and detects the HDD under Qubes, but 
the Settings app crashes everytime making it useless. 

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Re: [qubes-users] #ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, but still not installing in Qubes 4.0

2019-03-12 Thread Stumpy

On 3/4/19 3:12 PM, Chris Laprise wrote:

On 3/4/19 1:44 PM, Sergio Matta wrote:
ReactOS 0.4.11 is out!! Supported new AHCI SATA controllers, more 
#Software working thanks to correct manifest loading, #RTL support, 
new Update feature... More info: 
https://reactos.org/project-news/reactos-0411-released … Download it 
from: https://reactos.org/download

It boots but does not recognize any drive to install.


So they got better at running on bare metal, but still clueless about 
running as a VM guest.




Sergio, are you working with/on the ReactOS project? Or maybe tracking 
what the devs are up to?
I just ask because it seems to me that the reactos project would be 
perfect for those of us that are forced to run some win apps. Just 
curious about if/how much they are prioritizing VM guest support - and 
how hard/easy that would be?

Cheers

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Re: [qubes-users] Multiple monitors for laptops with a single HDMI port?

2019-03-12 Thread '1900' via qubes-users


tai...@gmx.com:
> I would suggest to purchase a new laptop, one can be had for around $100
> that has multiple ports on the laptop plus more ports on the dock and
> the option of an eGPU via the ExpressCard slot which has a variety of
> uses such as more screens or running a VM for video games with the
> graphics card attached to it via IOMMU-GFX which can play new games if
> you have the quad core ivy bridge CPU. 

Did you or someone else in the ML try to use a eGPU on Thinkpad X2** ?

I would appreciate some deepening and guidance on the hardware to
purchase (including a decent graphic card supporting 3 (or more)
monitors mostly used in 2D and never in gaming (maybe some 3D rendering
for 3D printing in the future)

> 
> For this use case I recommend a W520 for a mobile workstation with an
> upgrade to 32GB RAM, a new better wifi card and the best quad core ivy
> bridge CPU - it supports coreboot with open source hardware initiation
> (vs 100% blobbed closed source on puri-craptops) and a nerfable ME.

I suppose that puri-craptops is a "hint" to puri.sm hardware. I have no
intention to purchase a puri.sm laptop right now but I'm tempted by
their phone and I don't exclude to evaluate one of their laptop too in
the far future.
I see that you refer to 100% blobbed closed source and I don't
understand clearly what you mean. Could you please clarify or point me
to something to read?

Thank you

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Re: [qubes-users] dispvm browser retains information

2019-03-12 Thread Mike Keehan
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 08:35:04 +
Jon deps  wrote:

> Hello,  in Thunderbird when I do open-in-vm and check firefox it has 
> retained bookmarks from a previous session,
> 
> I believe this is Not how DVMs are supposed to work ?
> 
> 
> If so how would I troubleshoot and/or  remove  old  DVM data
> sesssions please
> 

Is the qvm-prefs property "template_for_dispvms" True for your
dvm template?

Mike.

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[qubes-users] dispvm browser retains information

2019-03-12 Thread Jon deps
Hello,  in Thunderbird when I do open-in-vm and check firefox it has 
retained bookmarks from a previous session,


I believe this is Not how DVMs are supposed to work ?


If so how would I troubleshoot and/or  remove  old  DVM data sesssions 
please


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[qubes-users] Boot Loop after Update

2019-03-12 Thread dcabrerizo
After updating Fedora and dom0 yesterday, today my laptop entered into a boot 
loop, stopping some seconds right after the initramfs line and re-booting

Hardware: Lenovo X1 Carbon 6th Gen
Booting with UEFI, dual boot with Windows

After a lot of unsuccessful googling I booted the laptop with a Qubes-OS USB 
drive and checked the content of xen.cfg located on the EFI partition:


[global]
default=4.14.103-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64

[4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64]
options=loglvl=all dom0_mem=min:1024M dom0_mem=max:4096M iommu=no-igfx 
ucode=scan smt=off
kernel=vmlinuz-4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-root 
rd.luks.uuid=luks-9b85a28f-01a5-4914-be0b-0605d066b610 
rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/root rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/swap i915.alpha_support=1 rhgb 
quiet rd.qubes.hide_all_usb
ramdisk=initramfs-4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img
[4.14.103-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64]
options=loglvl=all dom0_mem=min:1024M dom0_mem=max:4096M iommu=no-igfx 
ucode=scan smt=off
kernel=vmlinuz-4.14.103-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64 root=/dev/mapper/qubes_dom0-root 
rd.luks.uuid=luks-9b85a28f-01a5-4914-be0b-0605d066b610 
rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/root rd.lvm.lv=qubes_dom0/swap i915.alpha_support=1 rhgb 
quiet rd.qubes.hide_all_usb
ramdisk=initramfs-4.14.103-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64.img
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Only after changing to default=4.14.74-1.pvops.qubes.x86_64 can boot my system 
again.
NOTE: deleting 'iommu=no-igfx' did not solve the problem

Does anybody know what is the problem? 
Is this a problem with the upated kernel version?
What is happening with future updates? Shall I apply them?

Thank you in advance for your time!

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