[qubes-users] Re: Qubes installer freezes, than crashes at set-up menu

[kanoriko]

I'm copying from my other response to you:
 

> Hi, I am at the same spot you are now. I believe our machines are more 
> than able to handle this and it has something to do with our graphics cards 
> and memory. It seems to be that we need to make sure it is the built-in 
> graphics card that is used and not the dedicated GPU. I got past a similar 
> issue with TAILS OS on USB.
>
> One thing that almost gets me further is the use of CTRL-ALT-F2 just 
> before the langage screen displays. Hit it a couple of times, maybe 
> pressing a letter on the keyboard in between. You get a prompt. Anaconda.
>
> Using the bottom of the official troubleshooting page you mention type the 
> following to enter a rescue mission. Unfortunately on my machine, this also 
> exits no matter what option is chosen. Try it on yours.
>
> pkill -9 anaconda
> anaconda --rescue
>
> 2) One tip I have is from a similar issue with TAILS OS on USB. When I 
> entered the Grub menu on it using "e" I have to alter the setup variables 
> by adding:
>
> nouveau.modeset=0
> Modeset.blacklist=nouveau
> and I delete:
> livemedia=removeable
>
> We need to find these for the Qubes install it seems.
>
> I have Acer Nitro 5 Win 10 with Linux on VirtualBox where I modified the 
> ISO.
>

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[qubes-users] Installing qutebrowser with virtualenv?

[anon]

hello, I'm trying to use qutebrowser by installing it in a debian-10 
template as so:


https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser/blob/master/doc/install.asciidoc#tox

which works from the template, however, does not work on an AppVM based 
on it


is there a way to make it work securely ? or maybe by design it 
shouldn't work?



I changed this:

Creating a wrapper script
Running mkvenv.py does not install a system-wide qutebrowser script. You 
can launch qutebrowser by doing:


.venv/bin/python3 -m qutebrowser
You can create a simple wrapper script to start qutebrowser somewhere in 
your $PATH (e.g. /usr/local/bin/qutebrowser or ~/bin/qutebrowser):


#!/bin/bash
~/path/to/qutebrowser/.venv/bin/python3 -m qutebrowser "$@"

to:

$ cat /rw/usrlocal/bin/qutebrowser
#!/bin/bash
/home/user/qutebrowser/.venv/bin/python3 -m qutebrowser "$@"


I'm not high level qubes user, regards




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Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly

[unman]

On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 12:10:12AM +0200, Qubes wrote:
> On 6/29/20 10:34 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> > Qubes:
> > > On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote:
> > > > On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote:
> > > > > On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote:
> > > > > > If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's
> > > > > > that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and
> > > > > > Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by 
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets
> > > > > > created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes
> > > > > > immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Which log should I look at to troubleshoot?
> > 
> > Use xterm instead. Gnome terminal does that with dvms because of how it
> > starts.
> > 
> I am not sure I agree. Gnome is the default in Qubes. A vanilla Qubes
> install works and the default is the Gnome terminal.
> 

awokd is right - This is a long standing problem and there is an issue
relating to it - gnome terminal actually spawns gnome-terminal-server to
spawn a new window and then exits. Because the command you called has
exited the disposableVM closes, as expected.
Strange but true.

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[qubes-users] Qubes installer freezes, than crashes at set-up menu

[Frogfessor]

After days of troubleshooting, I've encountered a second problem. My first 
problem was that the installer would freeze after the [xen] characters 
start scrolling from the side, and before the green OKs start to appear. 
I've checked the troubleshooting page and commented out noexitboot and 
mapbs. Once I've done that, it was now able to successfully make it to the 
Qubes setup screen, where you have to choose the language, time, install 
location, and all that. The problem is, it would then freeze and crash 
while I'm setting up the install, usually at the beginning where I would 
choose a language, or select the drive to install Qubes. The same would 
also happen in a Legacy boot, except that I would un-comment noexitboot and 
mapbs, but the problem sill persists. I checked out the troubleshooting 
page again, but most fixes are only applicable after the install which I'm 
not even able to begin, except for the Nvidia troubleshooting, and because 
I'm using a Nvidia card, I decided to check it out. The problem is that it 
mentions making changes at the GRUB boot menu...I'm not entirely sure what 
that is. Just to make sure, I kept on pressing E, hoping that it might go 
into the GRUB editor as the troubleshooting page says, but nothing 
happened. So I kinda need help trying to troubleshoot this. I'm running a 
64bit Windows 10 system running the latest version of Acer Nitro BIOS. The 
install medium is a 32gb SanDisk USB 2.0 if that helps.

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Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly

[Qubes]

On 6/29/20 10:34 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Qubes:

On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote:

On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote:

On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote:

If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's
that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and
Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just
creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag.

When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets
created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes
immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted.

Which log should I look at to troubleshoot?


Use xterm instead. Gnome terminal does that with dvms because of how it
starts.

I am not sure I agree. Gnome is the default in Qubes. A vanilla Qubes 
install works and the default is the Gnome terminal.


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Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly

['awokd' via qubes-users]

Qubes:
> On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote:
>> On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote:
>>> On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote:
 If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's
 that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and
 Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just
 creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag.

 When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets
 created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes
 immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted.

 Which log should I look at to troubleshoot?

Use xterm instead. Gnome terminal does that with dvms because of how it
starts.

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Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly

[Qubes]

On 6/29/20 10:03 PM, haaber wrote:

On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote:

On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote:

If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's
that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and
Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just
creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag.

When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets
created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes
immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted.

Which log should I look at to troubleshoot?

If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or
Krusader, it opens.


I do experience the same with debian-10 disp-vm's. So I start a firefox
first, to open a terminal. After that, I can close firefox again. Very odd.

Do you open the terminal from Firefox somehow? Because starting a 
terminal from your dispvm will create a new disp vm so it should 
suffer the same consequences.


I do notice that right before the terminal briefly appears something 
makes my notification area seem like it also briefly tried to shuffle 
because a new icon was about to be shown. As if you put a tick in a box 
in settings somewhere that shows a new icon in your system tray but you 
un-tick it again as fast as you can, just it happens faster that what 
you would be able to click by hand.


And I am sure I have done this before. As apposed to doing it before and 
having the same experience, but not remembering that and now 
experiencing it as something new. It has always been like that.


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Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly

[haaber]

On 6/29/20 9:25 PM, Qubes wrote:

On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote:

If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's
that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and
Disposable: whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just
creating a qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag.

When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets
created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes
immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted.

Which log should I look at to troubleshoot?

If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or
Krusader, it opens.


I do experience the same with debian-10 disp-vm's. So I start a firefox
first, to open a terminal. After that, I can close firefox again. Very odd.

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Re: [qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly

[Qubes]

On 6/29/20 3:42 PM, Qubes wrote:
If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's 
that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: 
whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a 
qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag.


When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets 
created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes 
immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted.


Which log should I look at to troubleshoot?

If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or 
Krusader, it opens.



This is rather annoying.

If I change for example the fedora-31-dvm qube settings and I remove the 
option that makes it a disposable VM (on the 'Advanced' tab of the Qube 
settings page from Qube Manager) I can open a terminal in the VM without 
any problems. If I shutdown the VM and set the Disposable option again 
and I try open a terminal in the disposable VM it is the same as before. 
The new disposable VM gets created (disp), boots, and the terminal 
is opened but it just appears briefly after which it closes and the 
disposable VM is stopped and deleted.


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[solved] Re: [qubes-users] safely remove yum from debian template?

[Dave C]

On Monday, June 29, 2020 at 11:15:39 AM UTC-4, Qubes wrote:
>
> On 6/28/20 11:23 PM, Dave C wrote: 
> > I'd like to 
> > 
> > sudo apt remove yum 
> > 
> > However, apt warns the following: 
> > 
> > The following packages will be REMOVED: 
> >qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-vm-recommended yum yum-utils 
> > 
>
> Have a look here, 
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/removing-templatevm-packages/, scroll down 
> to 'Removing Only Packages Not Needed for a Qubes TemplateVM'. 
>
>
> That's very helpful, thanks.

The example on that page shows `sudo apt-mark manual 
qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates ...`

I'm leaving out qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates, because it requires yum and 
that's what I'm trying to uninstall.  Other than that, I'm following those 
instructions.

The template I'm doing this to is my development template.  I won't be 
using it for a netvm.

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Re: [qubes-users] safely remove yum from debian tempate?

[Qubes]

On 6/28/20 11:23 PM, Dave C wrote:

I'd like to

sudo apt remove yum

However, apt warns the following:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
   qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-vm-recommended yum yum-utils



Have a look here, 
https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/removing-templatevm-packages/, scroll down 
to 'Removing Only Packages Not Needed for a Qubes TemplateVM'.






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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Fedora 30 approaching EOL, Fedora 31 TemplateVM available, Fedora 32 TemplateVM in testing

[Stumpy]

On 2020-06-28 14:40, Lorenzo Lamas wrote:
I noticed that the Fedora 32 template is in the stable repo, but no 
announcement yet.


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I'd really be interested in this as this might make my fed31 repo 
updates moot.


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[qubes-users] DisposableVM Closing/Stopping Unexpectedly

[Qubes]

If I try to open a terminal in a dvm, I have tried in both the dvm's 
that are installed by default (Disposable: fedora-31-dvm and Disposable: 
whonix-ws-15-dvm) and one that I created on my own by just creating a 
qube and setting the "Disposable VM Template" flag.


When I open a terminal in any of these the new disposable VM gets 
created, is started, and the terminal opens briefly, but then closes 
immediately after and the disposable VM gets deleted.


Which log should I look at to troubleshoot?

If I open anything else in any of the 3 dvm's, for example Firefox or 
Krusader, it opens.


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Re: [qubes-users] Quebes for noobs (Installation)

[Bostongeorge]

I have recreated the usb and found the IOMMU bios settings as well , so I 
was able to install the system, now I can start to explore! thanks to all



On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 8:48:10 PM UTC+2, Qubes wrote:
>
> On 6/25/20 3:41 PM, Bostongeorge wrote: 
> > Should I try to load an ISO file, (I have created the usb bootable with 
> > rufus) 
>
> Did you use the correct options when creating the bootable USB? The 
> installation guide gives very specific instructions. 
>
> https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/installation-guide/ 
>

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Re: [qubes-users] safely remove yum from debian tempate?

[unman]

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020 at 12:50:01PM +0200, Fr??d??ric Pierret wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2020-06-28 23:23, Dave C wrote:
> > I'd like to??
> > 
> > |
> > sudo apt remove yum
> > |
> > 
> > because the yum files in /etc/bash_completion.d/ break things for fossil 
> > (autocomplete appends a space instead of slash after directories when 
> > running fossil).
> > 
> > However, apt warns the following:
> > 
> > |
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> > ?? qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-vm-recommended yum yum-utils
> > 
> > |
> > 
> > A) Is it safe to remove qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates and 
> > qubes-vm-recommended from a debian template?
> > 
> > Also, apt tells me that autoremove would further remove quite a few 
> > packages, including several from qubes:
> > 
> > |
> > ?? qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root qubes-gpg-split
> > ?? qubes-img-converter qubes-input-proxy-sender qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector
> > ?? qubes-pdf-converter qubes-thunderbird qubes-usb-proxy
> > |
> 
> When building normal template, we add a meta-package called 
> qubes-vm-recommended which is responsible to pull above dependencies and 
> notably qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates, which itself requires yum and 
> yum-util. You can safely remove it if you don't use debian template as 
> "UpdateVM" in Qubes global preferences.

As with any meta-package, you may want to keep some of the other
packages that it pulls in. This is not peculiar to Qubes.
You should mark these as "hold" or "instal" when removing the
meta-package, so that you remove only the target package.
A decent package manager like aptitude will make this easy.

If you need help with this, just ask.

unman

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[qubes-users] kernel-5.7.6: nouveau issue on RTX2080 TI

[Frédéric Pierret]

Hi,
I'm having an issue on kernel-latest where a commit 
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/?h=v5.7.6=bfe0bc40e53ac3198b6696282f83665757f26f67
 has been introduced to "Fixes display not coming up on high-bandwidth HDMI 
displays under a number of configurations.". Well in my case it does not what 
it's said. I'm having a nice black screen. I just build the same kernel with 
commit reverted and it works.

Any one has encountered this issue with NVIDIA card?

I'll try to investigate the problem and fix it. Probably related to Xen (again 
for those cards RTX).

Best,
Frédéric

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Re: [qubes-users] safely remove yum from debian tempate?

[Frédéric Pierret]

On 2020-06-28 23:23, Dave C wrote:
> I'd like to 
> 
> |
> sudo apt remove yum
> |
> 
> because the yum files in /etc/bash_completion.d/ break things for fossil 
> (autocomplete appends a space instead of slash after directories when running 
> fossil).
> 
> However, apt warns the following:
> 
> |
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-vm-recommended yum yum-utils
> 
> |
> 
> A) Is it safe to remove qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates and 
> qubes-vm-recommended from a debian template?
> 
> Also, apt tells me that autoremove would further remove quite a few packages, 
> including several from qubes:
> 
> |
>   qubes-core-agent-passwordless-root qubes-gpg-split
>   qubes-img-converter qubes-input-proxy-sender qubes-mgmt-salt-vm-connector
>   qubes-pdf-converter qubes-thunderbird qubes-usb-proxy
> |

When building normal template, we add a meta-package called 
qubes-vm-recommended which is responsible to pull above dependencies and 
notably qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates, which itself requires yum and yum-util. 
You can safely remove it if you don't use debian template as "UpdateVM" in 
Qubes global preferences.


> B) Is it safe to allow these to be autoremoved?
> 
> I'm guessing that it is ok to remove the former (A: yes) and not ok to remove 
> the latter (B: no).
> 
> I've noticed that installing qubes-vm-recommended brings yum and yum-utils 
> along with it.  This leaves me wondering, is there a way to uninstall yum on 
> a debian template?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
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Re: [qubes-users] safely remove yum from debian tempate?

[David Hobach]

On 6/28/20 11:23 PM, Dave C wrote:

I'd like to

sudo apt remove yum

because the yum files in /etc/bash_completion.d/ break things for fossil
(autocomplete appends a space instead of slash after directories when
running fossil).

However, apt warns the following:

The following packages will be REMOVED:
   qubes-core-agent-dom0-updates qubes-vm-recommended yum yum-utils


yum is installed for dom0 updates:
If you use your debian template as netVM, yum will be used to download 
updates for dom0 via the netVM.


So removing any of these packages is certainly not recommended as it may 
break expected base Qubes OS functionality.


Btw, removing thunderbird currently also removes `qubes-vm-recommended` 
in debian templates, which breaks the same Qubes functionality and is 
clearly a bug.


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