Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
On 3/9/22 20:46, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes. e.g. when processing HCL reports ;-) /Sven -- public key: https://www.svensemmler.org/2A632C537D744BC7.asc fingerprint: DA59 75C9 ABC4 0C83 3B2F 620B 2A63 2C53 7D74 4BC7 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/d0080fc7-11f8-584d-993c-1abfa684469b%40SvenSemmler.org. OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 03:46:53AM +0100, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki wrote: > On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 06:19:16PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: > > On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > > > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? > > > > As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be > > entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups > > will not allow it. > > And to be honest, I think some kind of automatic footer with basic ML > info is a good thing. I am on a few ML that don't have it, and every now > and then somebody sends an email _to the list_ asking how to > unsubscribe... > Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes. > Google used to put the footer in a separate mime part, which was > compatible with signatures, but they changed it. I have no idea what > other (non-self-hosted) providers do. Why did Google make this change? Has anyone complained to them about it? - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmIpmEkACgkQsoi1X/+c IsHMXg/9EX/TSaQFvMTxI4LXy7OXMZJj92WjYEez7IA08k57NIz+Ti/bSZraR/pe hCxysxnRhqJ1S7r/Ap2YP/wV1BYnUaEBg5k8XdGiqFtU/WfGMk3Oh0fCNaq/tkm6 Fu2xrQzfHI5gsZC7gWXTIoIoqieJpy4UGvrTHmaM+E1AXc4A20VWBPAjW6jYS3+S UO1vTyWTbJ7t7BE1pVRmi5zEfkxR+/S8mH6icdil4E9Fl+6R6AAbEWrhDjcXbEAB BUjt8EPC/y6qvZTALLH+BvefOelTFlJyekAQowUFyfdrk+/lemmzMN+iJBFKcY+O v0NaRGWdBTtODLk0MrTmY0C4RWyXkr9Ka5KEPH5OVNtihjQAFH2GaPBbEoQ4yusn ElqdWf+knHi1p22LQ0gXIuSSJ/Zim3BkyIdLTpXZvPl3vI4WjxUv9dVu0mRbrQhJ TMgMDQxNIah/Z/k3IGxO8bd8fOwHnstb0zYO5yj5Jfld2Aw4WOoVwM32tzeYVoUL 6vdx1/Ew8f9nO8Uj1WHuTFGwCmeAaFg5MWWSDDYec1ZfuhoKzE2Y9QC9X0o17CrI dEC1iD/YRanquCMwMhO7WNGOjaHI3A+saA0hNAg/qf3KbfatOy7UzeIP7erTllOL rPDmTS64sRo803gFtrM52wGFbPiaSmUIH6X+h2AdXkYcVBWG9kc= =FpSD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YimYSSr0F58bKJH7%40itl-email.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 06:19:16PM -0800, Andrew David Wong wrote: > On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? > > As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be > entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups > will not allow it. And to be honest, I think some kind of automatic footer with basic ML info is a good thing. I am on a few ML that don't have it, and every now and then somebody sends an email _to the list_ asking how to unsubscribe... Having a link to the message in the footer is also convenient sometimes. Google used to put the footer in a separate mime part, which was compatible with signatures, but they changed it. I have no idea what other (non-self-hosted) providers do. - -- Best Regards, Marek Marczykowski-Górecki Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEhrpukzGPukRmQqkK24/THMrX1ywFAmIpZpwACgkQ24/THMrX 1yxOXAf9H8ouM8sISHAfSXDXu16NeTjsD2B+POCm9MU8YVo+yUgBlvkPieNVDksx sTFkD8RwuJlEDEa67HZrhmLjEvlIyIlEAhYnCFM+0uhp3NoK6VDIuo9oJSlzfPmN 9VAKQ0DmuNp8JR2V2LyW25ofph4tgcTOGJOeK0Su+MfyjdQSgWjt8AHLZibHCcjc EKjAJoKtCkfqEwx1GI96qR2OKDTOIjHQLvGsjIJBxtBrMzz0geXjm2Pz4UsoZu71 p9QiisrNkbt18yaq+uxJQyKVUgR0gQIwE+wnjeA2nVq8jJzHWhbAdDS9yW6IlxUF LseEWJK51doZIfZDNQjdXqK9AIRbKg== =FvVg -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/Yilmnb3QgfIesFZb%40mail-itl.
[qubes-users] Re: Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
On 3/9/22 1:25 PM, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its benefits outweigh the drawbacks? As far as I can tell from examining the settings interface, it can't be entirely removed or entirely replaced with an empty string. Google Groups will not allow it. -- Andrew David Wong Community Manager The Qubes OS Project https://www.qubes-os.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/ebf3e76c-9923-6de4-3572-8eac6d9db752%40qubes-os.org.
Re: [qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 04:25:11PM -0500, Demi Marie Obenour wrote: > The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks > digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its > benefits outweigh the drawbacks? Looks like Google mangles the message in other ways, too. In my case, the charset is changed from us-ascii to UTF-8, and the Content-Transfer-Encoding header is removed, with the `=20` at the end of one line being replaced by a space. So the only solutions are either inline PGP or to switch list hosting solutions. - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmIpHTwACgkQsoi1X/+c IsHSmRAAw2exmoy38TFa+ZzBtAOl0qhxt5DlVRYN8ery1xODhN9tHG5ZBDAV4JdA hbMHhVZmMOVufb3SFVCGYBukiIuLSValNAeCMr1Ml6Dmfi3wONg5HWIvP9JVcrL0 29EXuFvAah8IpsS+kjti9f0opVY8XUFNgk6TpetMkt1B250P0IdLdK4qPHzXYlR/ O+VW7mWeVk6R803n+oWlHIyMQn8nJr0fN6QaMNqKs7iRY/Wl8GrKd0VSiYN5G+2n QQAXKPeBLmAwz4mBvGVlm7ulpttoksHjFXsDCCylFjWGpCrGhTJCKyRmaVrtyWBW 4oeXgmOBI8N1w9NqQ11fQPSyAbgaIQ8hU8YMV5XeOusGmYCquU2u/SswBPwPFt8c KqPvcnsxOL41cWTh5Z6MDtxd6X1HKf2RXzAAM1yJLOwXa54BA1Ybc/2dSWkRtp1U PvNrgJxl46SsBnzme6lTjm7yZ88I7iAcPbNl55e6PnjuvimIcqidiprCFyWFC9ox YsokpkzKbng39NY+UeS7nVBSSZe4oXaABkAxN8iMlv1kcjyHYnYxdUIJF0rdUmks Q1RB275a21Y17h+1qpr+ppfp9qRZn4Kz0NPhqDV9yhhzmCmohXnFB6aJ49iy6uYJ Py/JnUhfErKq42QlQ2qLV90xLnsK8gJMNVOGYuW2KUwHDGzFnBg= =XAap -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YikdPNrxf0twDLSq%40itl-email.
[qubes-users] Should the footer at the bottom of the mailing list be deleted?
The footer on each message is rather annoying, mostly because it breaks digital signatures. Should it be set to the empty string, or do its benefits outweigh the drawbacks? -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YikbOpUqba2VOTiY%40itl-email. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [qubes-users] Qubes 4.1 qrexec issue?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sun, Mar 06, 2022 at 09:03:29PM +, 'taran1s' via qubes-users wrote: > I have an issue with Split GPG as well as with opening files in the > disposable VMs and with the qrexec in the guide How to use Monero CLI/daemon > with Qubes + Whonix too. > > https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/cli_wallet_daemon_isolation_qubes_whonix.html > > Split GPG > > Opening Thunderbird, I get following errors in the notification popup: > > Denied: whonix.NewStatus > Denied whonix.NewStatus+status from work-email to sys-whonix This is a Whonix problem I am not familiar with. > I have to as well make every gpg action confirm in the Dom0 Operation > Execution with Target GPG backend. You can solve this problem by adding a line such as: qubes.Gpg + work-email allow to `/etc/qubes/policy.d/30-user.policy`. Be sure to replace with the name of the backend qube. > Using dispVMs from within AppVM > > When trying to convert file or open it in the disposable VM from within the > normal AppVM, I get an error popuplike : > > Denied: qubes.PdfConvert > Denied qubes.pdfConvert from work-email to @dispvm What is work-email’s default DisposableVM template? It’s in the “Default DispVM” column in Qubes Manager. If it is “None” or “default (None)” you will get this error. Setting it to a valid DisposableVM Template (such as whonix-ws-16-dvm) should solve the problem. > Any advice appreciated! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "qubes-users" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/3c5f45cb-0e56-5bb5-a4ea-f68d001e2856%40mailbox.org. - -- Sincerely, Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers) Invisible Things Lab -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEdodNnxM2uiJZBxxxsoi1X/+cIsEFAmIpF/UACgkQsoi1X/+c IsG7xw/+NHkZRQNjCCVkXOGEEl4U686VFcsWPHXsn7XckelHDRTRfq7a70xzkDHS 9PzCwH3F7nnro88vJ0CF82kAqA/a8HfZ2OBEfvPa+VmubVX3HFW9hgIBiTUyuW4S SvGC2xrnsDfT/JUyyaNS6hldRydZPRMJq/LVEWgixoLZIxGpl00edGN7/QecAnm/ 9J5ml03pUVftRAsc10G47zEnZzFcz7/nTlVNlnXOAXiKlZ7xGkPv+8+vbDDjcMTt iKTNKorsbqaTyaJExdglpPMKmWGyxFgItyic50qMj27aDr00ymRfQ0yypPX66A3/ 1uyJd5f2Fyni1MvAY3KukC0ipbBs3EuXlNhBtN8W1cU5ZJkHFUU8iBgYelBHliTe cvimJCfB+6M1kDuYLztC82T8z3vfmNx2qJB+Pbtc8yEyu8b/NDlxjz763/z7kghk A6L/Nx1YKSd4WZv+NOWpWp/p5MvXa/imQ+XDBq5Ggehrc6NgZywjEWcJZrJb3sfW Rfr70sh7pPqq9vak3igwlf6bUvoyNICfe2lpclss6il1J09t2u1+krSFal1LjEoi Vm2o2Y1HqNPJG6SzRVFpITVo6U9Pi3VrKW7YHegrYXCO7M5Gbqvv4d9CmUhp8p8Q mG5DJ8xT54BNQItUaosbiy6RZPedYhvoJ+XrxfpUKm9d0ReKt/I= =Lf2e -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YikX9jGKX7e9bn5D%40itl-email.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.1 qrexec issue?
'taran1s' via qubes-users: taran1s: I have an issue with Split GPG as well as with opening files in the disposable VMs and with the qrexec in the guide How to use Monero CLI/daemon with Qubes + Whonix too. Is this mailing list still active or one needs to better go to a different place? Think many users are over on the forum (https://forum.qubes-os.org/). Your question is a bit niche, though, so possibly not many in general have experienced a similar issue or know how to fix it? -- - don't top post Mailing list etiquette: - trim quoted reply to only relevant portions - when possible, copy and paste text instead of screenshots -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/874f90ca-48d5-d5ab-9ef1-06de7f518519%40danwin1210.de.
Re: [qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.1 qrexec issue?
On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 11:20:53AM +, 'taran1s' via qubes-users wrote: > > > taran1s: > > I have an issue with Split GPG as well as with opening files in the > > disposable VMs and with the qrexec in the guide How to use Monero > > CLI/daemon with Qubes + Whonix too. > > > > https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/cli_wallet_daemon_isolation_qubes_whonix.html > > > > > > Split GPG > > > > Opening Thunderbird, I get following errors in the notification popup: > > > > Denied: whonix.NewStatus > > Denied whonix.NewStatus+status from work-email to sys-whonix > > > > I have to as well make every gpg action confirm in the Dom0 Operation > > Execution with Target GPG backend. > > > > Using dispVMs from within AppVM > > > > When trying to convert file or open it in the disposable VM from within > > the normal AppVM, I get an error popuplike : > > > > Denied: qubes.PdfConvert > > Denied qubes.pdfConvert from work-email to @dispvm > > > > Any advice appreciated! > > Is this mailing list still active or one needs to better go to a different > place? > Still active, but the Forum has more traffic, although it's often low grade and noisy. On your questions, the first looks like a Whonix issue - Patrick has asked that Qubes-Whonix questions be put in the Whonix forums, where they will get better oversight. The second looks like permissions - look in the policy file at /etc/qubes-rpc/policy/qubes.PdfConvert -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YiittlokWGpOaiKk%40thirdeyesecurity.org.
Re: [qubes-users] xfce4 saved session
Hello, Charles Dodgson wrote Wednesday, 09.03.2022 10:55: > Hello, > > I have a small problem with the xfce4 session on qubes 4.1. > when I login, I start the qubes manager (qubes-qube-manager) > and a xfce4-terminal. If I logout and then login again (or > restart) the xfce4-terminal appears but the qubes manager > does not. The qubes manager appears in the xfce4 session > files under ~/.cache/sessions/xfce4-X but it does > not load. Back in 4.0.x, the session would work as expected. > > Has anyone noticed this? Thanks, > Charles I started the Qube Manager using the Q-Menu -> Qubes Tools -> Qube Manager and logged out. After logging in again the Qube Manager was started again. So I can't reproduce the behaviour you described above with my Qubes-OS 4.1.0 installation. However: I do not use the experimental gui domain yet. My gui is still running in dom0 as it used to be in 4.0.4. Best regards, Peter Funk -- Peter Funk ✉:Oldenburger Str.86, 2 Ganderkesee, Germany; 📱:+49-179-640-8878 homeoffice ☎:+49-4222-950270 office ✉: ArtCom GmbH, Haferwende 2, D-28357 Bremen, Germany; ☎:+49-421-20419-0 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/YiiffrELi/tYZa1a%40arbeit. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[qubes-users] xfce4 saved session
Hello, I have a small problem with the xfce4 session on qubes 4.1. when I login, I start the qubes manager (qubes-qube-manager) and a xfce4-terminal. If I logout and then login again (or restart) the xfce4-terminal appears but the qubes manager does not. The qubes manager appears in the xfce4 session files under ~/.cache/sessions/xfce4-X but it does not load. Back in 4.0.x, the session would work as expected. Has anyone noticed this? Thanks, Charles -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/VI1P193MB0414DCFDEB727395D6C4F9CCA90A9%40VI1P193MB0414.EURP193.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.
[qubes-users] Re: Qubes 4.1 qrexec issue?
taran1s: I have an issue with Split GPG as well as with opening files in the disposable VMs and with the qrexec in the guide How to use Monero CLI/daemon with Qubes + Whonix too. https://www.getmonero.org/resources/user-guides/cli_wallet_daemon_isolation_qubes_whonix.html Split GPG Opening Thunderbird, I get following errors in the notification popup: Denied: whonix.NewStatus Denied whonix.NewStatus+status from work-email to sys-whonix I have to as well make every gpg action confirm in the Dom0 Operation Execution with Target GPG backend. Using dispVMs from within AppVM When trying to convert file or open it in the disposable VM from within the normal AppVM, I get an error popuplike : Denied: qubes.PdfConvert Denied qubes.pdfConvert from work-email to @dispvm Any advice appreciated! Is this mailing list still active or one needs to better go to a different place? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to qubes-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/a36ef384-b0d3-0d60-b53e-7f08e26bbc2a%40mailbox.org.
