Re: [qubes-users] Encrypted Message

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

maybe we should encrypt this whole channel ^^no? But then we should discuss how 
to do it to have a universal protocol to do it.

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Re: [qubes-users] Intel ME Backdoor, called Odin's Eye

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Anyway people, even if he was saying the truth. Then why is he silent then ? 
Why doesn't he have joined purism or coreboot or qubes or others to neut the ME?

The difference between reality and what can be real is really thin and it's 
often easier to believe what could be then what really is.

First you need to indentify the goal and here it is not clear. Do you know why ?
Because it would mean that Chinese could get access to it with enough 
intelligence. Russian could get access to it. And what you are calling Odin so 
the NSA or any other entity, don't want all that because it would mean that 
even them are at risk ;) which is clearly not the goal.
You don't want to implement something that you can not control.
So it's easier to find an exploit, there are enough of them. Or to create one 
within software or OS where you can patch it easily than in hardware.

The real threat from all time, is not the intelligence services, it's the 
companies. Anything else doesn't matter.

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Subject: Re: [qubes-users] Intel ME Backdoor, called Odin's Eye

On Thu, May 10, 2018 12:37 am, dangmad...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 2:02:36 PM UTC-8, awokd wrote:

>> I don't trust ME either and run me_cleaner but that link is just some
>> unsubstantiated text. If he'd really been working at Intel 15 years he
>> should have been able to get copies of internal documentation at least.
>> A
>> blacked out W-2 form doesn't cut it either.
>
> Do you find that sticking your head in the sand to be a productive form
> of security?

How does requiring proof instead of an anecdote equate to sticking one's
head in the sand? Do you believe all scientists are sticking their head in
the sand when they do research?

> I'm sorry that this information upset you so much, but by denying it
> you're only putting others in harms way.

What gave you the impression I was upset?

> Maybe you'd like for others to have security vulnerabilities?

No, that's why I encourage them to use Qubes. I think you must be new
here. Check out some of my other posts.

> Perhaps you are exposing your agenda too much?

Re-read the first sentence of what I wrote above, perhaps more slowly this
time, then explain what agenda it is you think I have.



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Re: [qubes-users] Re: ProtonMail bridge

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

You don't have any error message when launching it in a terminal ?

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What I have already done ... No answers from them ... Like their support, no 
existent :(

Le vendredi 20 avril 2018 12:47:33 UTC+3, chipp...@gmail.com a écrit :
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 1:50:37 AM UTC-4, ThierryIT wrote:
> > Le vendredi 20 avril 2018 00:25:43 UTC+3, chipp...@gmail.com a écrit :
> > > AHTON,
> > >   Thank you for sharing what worked for you.  My bridge was installed 
> > > into the personal VM (Fedora-26).
> > >  I understand what you are suggesting, and hope to try it out this 
> > > weekend when I slow down again.
> > >
> > > Regards ~
> >
> > Hi,
> > How did you get the Linux version of the Bridge ... Seems not to be yet 
> > available ... Beta tester ?
>
>
> They offer a Beta version for paid subscribers I requested via E-mail, 
> and they responded with a link to the download and installation instructions.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: What are the disadvantages of NOT having vt-d?

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

About vt-d, the problem is more about usb controller and the fact that without 
vt-d you have not a good control about how they behave and are assigned but I 
could be wrong. 

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[qubes-users] Re: What are the disadvantages of NOT having vt-d?

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le jeudi 14 décembre 2017 01:27:23 UTC+1, Chris a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> 
> 
> I am an avid user of Qubes OS and I love what you have done. Finally I have a 
> feeling of security and a peace of mind... I am not a security person but I 
> kinda do care about it and have some basic understanding and am slightly 
> paranoid.
> 
> 
> 
> I am currently running a DELL Precision 5520, which has vt-d. But it is owned 
> by my company which I am leaving soon, and then I will have to switch back to 
> my desktop, an old Intel 3700K without vt-d. 
> 
> 
> 
> I am wondering, compared to my precision laptop with vt-d, what attack 
> vectors will open up? The desktop will be connected to an Ubiquity router via 
> Ethernet cable (no WLAN) which is in turn connected to a normal Cable modem. 
> Is this reasonably safe? Is the NetVM mostly useful for WLAN or also for 
> Ethernet?
> 
> 
> 
> I am a normal person, soon working as a developer at Amazon (so I would say 
> while I am not high-profile, people might have interest in attacking me to 
> gain access to AWS or any other Amazon service)...
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Mara

Well for what I remember, you may not have any choice since for R4.0 you won't 
be able to install without vt-d activated. I have kinda the same problem. I 
will have to change the CPU from mthe laptop where qubes is installed to make 
it compatible.

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Re: [qubes-users] vpn's log option

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le mercredi 13 décembre 2017 19:56:06 UTC+1, entr0p...@riseup.net a écrit :
> charly LEMMINKÄINEN:
> > Le mercredi 13 décembre 2017 15:55:39 UTC+1, Chris Laprise a écrit :
> >> On 12/13/2017 08:38 AM, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> >>> is there any possibility to put a log option in the vpn scripts described 
> >>> in the wiki? To know the reason why a vpn has been disconnected for 
> >>> example?
> >>>
> >>
> >> You can use 'sudo journalctl' to see openvpn log activity.
> >>
> >> If you're experiencing disconnects and openvpn exits without trying to 
> >> reconnect, you may need to comment-out the "persist tun" parameter in 
> >> your config. This fixes it sometimes. If you're on Qubes 3.2 a more 
> >> robust workaround is to use this service-based setup instead:
> >>
> >> https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support
> >>
> >> This will ensure openvpn gets re-started anytime it exits.
> >>
> >> -- 
> >>
> >> Chris Laprise
> >> https://github.com/tasket
> >> https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> >> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886
> > 
> > I was more hoping about that : 
> > https://askubuntu.com/questions/276664/where-are-the-openvpn-connection-logs-and-configuration-files
> > so since there is no /var/log/syslog .I don't know the reason for that. Or 
> > is in another directory? 
> > Can I use the --log option in the rc.local ?
> > 
> 
> You can send logs to any file you want (ie /var/log/openvpn).
> 
> Put `log `, `verb <1..5>` in your .ovpn/.conf openvpn configuration 
> or
> 
> Use `--log ` & `--verb <1..5>` in your rc.local launch parameters.

thanks for this confirmation.

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Re: [qubes-users] vpn's log option

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le mercredi 13 décembre 2017 15:55:39 UTC+1, Chris Laprise a écrit :
> On 12/13/2017 08:38 AM, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > is there any possibility to put a log option in the vpn scripts described 
> > in the wiki? To know the reason why a vpn has been disconnected for example?
> >
> 
> You can use 'sudo journalctl' to see openvpn log activity.
> 
> If you're experiencing disconnects and openvpn exits without trying to 
> reconnect, you may need to comment-out the "persist tun" parameter in 
> your config. This fixes it sometimes. If you're on Qubes 3.2 a more 
> robust workaround is to use this service-based setup instead:
> 
> https://github.com/tasket/Qubes-vpn-support
> 
> This will ensure openvpn gets re-started anytime it exits.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Chris Laprise
> https://github.com/tasket
> https://twitter.com/ttaskett
> PGP: BEE2 20C5 356E 764A 73EB  4AB3 1DC4 D106 F07F 1886

I was more hoping about that : 
https://askubuntu.com/questions/276664/where-are-the-openvpn-connection-logs-and-configuration-files
so since there is no /var/log/syslog .I don't know the reason for that. Or is 
in another directory? 
Can I use the --log option in the rc.local ?

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[qubes-users] vpn's log option

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

is there any possibility to put a log option in the vpn scripts described in 
the wiki? To know the reason why a vpn has been disconnected for example?

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[qubes-users] Re: speed between usb-qube-vm and another app-vm

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le lundi 11 décembre 2017 00:47:20 UTC+1, Drew White a écrit :
> On Monday, 11 December 2017 10:12:47 UTC+11, charly LEMMINKÄINEN  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I would like if we have any idea about what would be the speed between the 
> > usb-qube appvm and another appvm if we attach an external hdd to this 
> > appvm?Normally I should have 25MB but here I have only 2.5 MB...
> 
> You have a 25 MB file and it only transfers 2.5 MB of it?
> 
> What is the error?

No sorry if I have misexplained this. Normally I should have a transfer of 
25MB/s (mesured from a transfer of a file on the same usb-qube of a file) . And 
here the same file from the usb-qubes to another appvm by attaching the hdd to 
this appvm I have 2.5MB/s so is that normal to only have 10% of transfer rate 
between the usb-qube and the appvms or is it a bug ? 

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[qubes-users] speed between usb-qube-vm and another app-vm

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Hi,

I would like if we have any idea about what would be the speed between the 
usb-qube appvm and another appvm if we attach an external hdd to this 
appvm?Normally I should have 25MB but here I have only 2.5 MB...

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le samedi 2 décembre 2017 00:07:44 UTC+1, charly LEMMINKÄINEN a écrit :
> Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 21:33:52 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> > W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 19:34:14 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
> > napisał:
> > > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 18:53:50 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> > > > W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly 
> > > > LEMMINKÄINEN napisał:
> > > > > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > > > > > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes 
> > > > > > > r3.2
> > > > > > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM 
> > > > > > > but for
> > > > > > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > > > > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the 
> > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > base.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in 
> > > > > audio would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you 
> > > > > can listen to a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the 
> > > > > same time listen to a podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb 
> > > > > headset
> > > > > So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset 
> > > > > as the built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes 
> > > > > doesn't allow it? Or Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe 
> > > > > my headset is just not properly recognized?
> > > > 
> > > > Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a 
> > > > specific qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to 
> > > > move audio backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.
> > > 
> > > so you're telling me that your headset is in usb and it's working ? 
> > > Because mine doesn't work, so are you sure that it is supposed to work 
> > > system-wide? 
> > > I understand that it would be more secure to have contained the audio to 
> > > one vm but right now it's not my purpose.
> > 
> > It is working in a specific vm if I assign it to the vm via qvm-usb. Was 
> > working systemwide when I had USB controllers in dom0
> 
> okey so it's mine then which is not recognized or something. Which one do you 
> use ? Should I wait for a kernel update?

ok apparently I had a problem with my headset but it's now available across the 
whole system

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 21:33:52 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 19:34:14 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
> napisał:
> > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 18:53:50 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> > > W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly 
> > > LEMMINKÄINEN napisał:
> > > > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > > > > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes 
> > > > > > r3.2
> > > > > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM 
> > > > > > but for
> > > > > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > > > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the 
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > base.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> > > > 
> > > > Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in 
> > > > audio would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you 
> > > > can listen to a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same 
> > > > time listen to a podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb 
> > > > headset
> > > > So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as 
> > > > the built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't 
> > > > allow it? Or Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset 
> > > > is just not properly recognized?
> > > 
> > > Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a 
> > > specific qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to 
> > > move audio backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.
> > 
> > so you're telling me that your headset is in usb and it's working ? Because 
> > mine doesn't work, so are you sure that it is supposed to work system-wide? 
> > I understand that it would be more secure to have contained the audio to 
> > one vm but right now it's not my purpose.
> 
> It is working in a specific vm if I assign it to the vm via qvm-usb. Was 
> working systemwide when I had USB controllers in dom0

okey so it's mine then which is not recognized or something. Which one do you 
use ? Should I wait for a kernel update? 

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 18:53:50 UTC+1, Yethal a écrit :
> W dniu piątek, 1 grudnia 2017 15:40:34 UTC+1 użytkownik charly LEMMINKÄINEN 
> napisał:
> > Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> > > On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> > > >
> > > > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2
> > > > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but 
> > > > for
> > > > general purpose across the whole system?
> > > > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system
> > > > base.
> > > 
> > > Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?
> > 
> > Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in audio 
> > would be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you can listen 
> > to a youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same time listen to 
> > a podcast or a video in another vm, and not a usb headset
> > So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as the 
> > built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't allow it? 
> > Or Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset is just not 
> > properly recognized?
> 
> Works systemwide if the USB controller is assigned to Dom0. Works in a 
> specific qube if using sys-usb. I think it might be handy to be able to move 
> audio backend from Dom0 to a specified VM to reduce attack surface.

so you're telling me that your headset is in usb and it's working ? Because 
mine doesn't work, so are you sure that it is supposed to work system-wide? 
I understand that it would be more secure to have contained the audio to one vm 
but right now it's not my purpose.

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

Le vendredi 1 décembre 2017 13:02:12 UTC+1, awokd a écrit :
> On Fri, December 1, 2017 10:07, charly LEMMINKÄINEN wrote:
> >
> > sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2
> > does even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but for
> > general purpose across the whole system?
> > pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system
> > base.
> 
> Have you looked over https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/external-audio/ ?

Again, it's about the usage into a VM. I don't see why the built-in audio would 
be accepted as a general audio device in a laptop, so you can listen to a 
youtube video from a browser in one vm and at the same time listen to a podcast 
or a video in another vm, and not a usb headset
So again, is it a way to make the general audio device a usb headset as the 
built-in audio is, or is it a security risk and so qubes doesn't allow it? Or 
Maybe it does work for some of you and so maybe my headset is just not properly 
recognized? 

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Re: [qubes-users] Qubes audio

[charly LEMMINKÄINEN]

sorry to retrieve an old thread but I would like to know if qubes r3.2 does 
even support usb headset? I mean not by assigning it to a VM but for general 
purpose across the whole system? 
pavucontrol is normally for inside the vm, not to install at the system base.

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