Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-26 Thread unman
On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 06:16:34AM +, Jon deps wrote:
> I use thunderbird to read the qubes-users, then I right click and "respond
> to all" it populates and email  with
> 
> qubes-users-/jypxa39uh5tlh3mboc...@public.gmane.org
> 
> 
> awokd 
> 
> in the "To:" fields
> 
> then there is a "newsgroup:" field  gmane.os.qubes.user
> 
> I retitle the "to:" field to  qubes-users@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> and delete the other fields
> 
> but actually have no idea if this is  the  best method for   gmane  use
> 
> 
> so seems gmane does work at least for reading  the newsgroup  sir unman   :)
> 

Thanks.
I stopped using gmane some while back: I had no idea the service was
still running, (albeit with some bugs.)

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[qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-26 Thread Jon deps

On 7/25/19 3:48 PM, unman wrote:

On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 08:49:00AM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Jon deps:


if the debian 10 sentence is current, is the documentation soon to be
updated ?

any guesstimate on the -10 fresh templates ETA <-- sorry to ask?? :)


The Debian 10 Qubes template isn't out yet. It's in testing so it should
be soon. Hopefully, associated documentation would be updated around the
same time.


PS: in tbird how does one reply to
awokd 

I can a popup error recipient name rejected no domain found


I don't know how Gmane works. Maybe you can't reply to posters directly
with it. Using the Qubes listserv with email does work for that.



Debian-10 is stuck in testing at the moment because it needs packages
from the *testing* repositories for updating. This could be confusing if
users install from current and don't want to use the testing
repositories.

Also, I've noticed a few regressions in the minimal template which need
fixing before release. So testing it remains.
Andrew will announce when the templates become available in "current".

I don't think that Gmane works any more, does it? If you have a message 
referenced
ed there you should be able to find it in archive.org, and reply from
there.




I use thunderbird to read the qubes-users, then I right click and 
"respond to all" it populates and email  with


qubes-users-/jypxa39uh5tlh3mboc...@public.gmane.org 



awokd 

in the "To:" fields

then there is a "newsgroup:" field  gmane.os.qubes.user

I retitle the "to:" field to  qubes-users@googlegroups.com 



and delete the other fields

but actually have no idea if this is  the  best method for   gmane  use


so seems gmane does work at least for reading  the newsgroup  sir unman   :)

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread unman
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 02:11:40PM -0500, Sven Semmler wrote:
> On 7/25/19 10:48 AM, unman wrote:
> > Debian-10 is stuck in testing at the moment because it needs packages
> > from the *testing* repositories for updating. This could be confusing if
> > users install from current and don't want to use the testing
> > repositories.
> 
> I'm sorry that confused me. My main template is buster based and pulls
> from "/r4.0/vm buster main". Everything looks fine. Can you please
> clarify what you mean with the above?
> 
> /Sven
> 

Qubes packages - require =versions only in testing.
Try to install some new packages.
Most evident when using 10-minimal

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread Sven Semmler
On 7/25/19 10:48 AM, unman wrote:
> Debian-10 is stuck in testing at the moment because it needs packages
> from the *testing* repositories for updating. This could be confusing if
> users install from current and don't want to use the testing
> repositories.

I'm sorry that confused me. My main template is buster based and pulls
from "/r4.0/vm buster main". Everything looks fine. Can you please
clarify what you mean with the above?

/Sven


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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread unman
On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 08:49:00AM +, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:
> Jon deps:
> 
> > if the debian 10 sentence is current, is the documentation soon to be
> > updated ?
> > 
> > any guesstimate on the -10 fresh templates ETA <-- sorry to ask?? :)
> 
> The Debian 10 Qubes template isn't out yet. It's in testing so it should
> be soon. Hopefully, associated documentation would be updated around the
> same time.
> 
> > PS: in tbird how does one reply to
> > awokd 
> > 
> > I can a popup error recipient name rejected no domain found
> > 
> I don't know how Gmane works. Maybe you can't reply to posters directly
> with it. Using the Qubes listserv with email does work for that.
> 

Debian-10 is stuck in testing at the moment because it needs packages
from the *testing* repositories for updating. This could be confusing if
users install from current and don't want to use the testing
repositories.

Also, I've noticed a few regressions in the minimal template which need
fixing before release. So testing it remains. 
Andrew will announce when the templates become available in "current".

I don't think that Gmane works any more, does it? If you have a message 
referenced
ed there you should be able to find it in archive.org, and reply from
there.

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Re: [qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread 'awokd' via qubes-users
Jon deps:

> if the debian 10 sentence is current, is the documentation soon to be
> updated ?
> 
> any guesstimate on the -10 fresh templates ETA <-- sorry to askĀ  :)

The Debian 10 Qubes template isn't out yet. It's in testing so it should
be soon. Hopefully, associated documentation would be updated around the
same time.

> PS: in tbird how does one reply to
> awokd 
> 
> I can a popup error recipient name rejected no domain found
> 
I don't know how Gmane works. Maybe you can't reply to posters directly
with it. Using the Qubes listserv with email does work for that.

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[qubes-users] Re: Confuse Update QUbes OS

2019-07-25 Thread Jon deps

On 7/19/19 9:11 PM, 'awokd' via qubes-users wrote:

Luc libaweb:

Hello,

When I update my Dom0, I have :
Failed to synchronize cach for repo "template" and "current"

But, I have then nothing to do and complete.


This error is usually temporary, like if you are having internet 
trouble. Try running update again.



Qubes OS is updated ?

My release cat is 4.0 but not 4.0.1 ?


A fully patched install of 4.0 is no different than 4.0.1.

I don't uderstand if I have to upgrade template or it's automatic 
whith the update tool.


Thanks

The update tool will update patches within templates. However, it does 
not handle updating to entirely new template versions like Fedora 29 to 
30 or Debian 9 to 10. See https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/templates for those.




if the debian 10 sentence is current, is the documentation soon to be 
updated ?


any guesstimate on the -10 fresh templates ETA <-- sorry to ask  :)


PS: in tbird how does one reply to
awokd 

I can a popup error recipient name rejected no domain found

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