Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Improve default "Now Playing" layout

2009-10-18 Thread 0xdeadbeef

There is always the first time for everything. And self-awareness is the
first step to a cure ;)

No, really, don't get me wrong. I have a cover embedded in each and
every MP3 on my server. I love Moose for it's cover art selector and I
definitely think the cover should be displayed in the "now playing"
display. Then again, when I'm listening to music in the morning before
getting up, the most important thing for me is the time (and date for
the few cases when I'm really sleepy and confused ;)) and the next
important thing is the title/artist info, especially when I listen to
internet radio or Last.fm.

And I really can't imagine that my request for a usable display of
artist/title AND time/date is that of a minority if I assume that the
bedside radio scenario is a typical use case.

Besides, the knob is currently not used at all in the NP display. I
could imagine it to switch between different display types. E.g. default
setting the mixed type I suggested, turn it to the left for a big
clock/date display, turn it to the right for a title/artist/covert art
display.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] radio problem with radio (rebuffering failed)

2009-10-18 Thread ks10

usch, the funkturm stream shows the same behaviour on sb radio. no sound
only rebuffers to 3-6% all over again...


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] So far so good!

2009-10-18 Thread Craig124

Yep it only gets better, well for me, after listening to it for a while
now, even if you took all the features away from it, I am uttley amazed
at how good the sound quality is, dont get me wrong my boom is better
and more bass, however with my ears, its certainly giving that bad boy a
run for its money.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Improve default "Now Playing" layout

2009-10-18 Thread ModelCitizen

0xdeadbeef;473817 Wrote: 
> And I really can't imagine that my request for a usable display of
> artist/title AND time/date is that of a minority if I assume that the
> bedside radio scenario is a typical use case.
I'm sure it's the majority case. You're probably not aware but the Boom
had a similar problem when it was being developed. The NP screen saver
did not include a clock (a pretty big omission for a device that was
marketed as a bedside hifi/clock radio, amongst other things). At least
with the Radio the clock was included by default (even if it is too
small to read)!

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] So far so good!

2009-10-18 Thread toby10

Craig124;473835 Wrote: 
> Yep it only gets better, well for me, after listening to it for a while
> now, even if you took all the features away from it, I am uttley amazed
> at how good the sound quality is, dont get me wrong my boom is better
> and more bass, however with my ears, its certainly giving that bad boy a
> run for its money.

Given the SB Radio's size, form factor, and mono design it surely does
sound amazing.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Red Radio - appearance and availability

2009-10-18 Thread Peter314

Teus de Jong;470507 Wrote: 
> FYI: the red one is available at www.wifimedia.eu. Click on the English
> flag to see pages in English (well sort of...).
> 
> Price is about the same as on the Logitech store. I bought my
> transporter there, it's a reliable shop. (I've no further connections
> with them.)
> 
> Teus

Thanks for the recommendation. I have just placed an order for the red
one.

In light of the rumour that the red one has better sound quality, I
expect they will sell out quickly! ;)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] radio problem with radio (rebuffering failed)

2009-10-18 Thread usch

Thanks for testing. Not good. :-(

But then I have been pondering for some time if I should get a new
Radio or a used Boom for the same price, I guess that's an easy decision
now.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio in the bathroom?

2009-10-18 Thread gweempose

I think it depends on how humid it gets in the room. Obviously, moisture
can be bad for electronics if they aren't specifically designed to be in
that type of harsh environment. I assume you have an exhaust fan in the
bathroom. If it's fairly effective, you should be alright as long as you
remember to turn it on every time you take a shower.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Sync is very slightly off.

2009-10-18 Thread Ikabob

Well,I thought that this had been corrected but today the sync is so far
off that it is almost like unsynced. There was a day that there was
message on the SB3 "waiting for sync" and that day things seemed to be
getting better. But not today. I think this is a serious issue because
the WIFE notices it . Is it possible to fix it? I am looking forward to
the Touch.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Improve default "Now Playing" layout

2009-10-18 Thread dwilliams01

Keymaster;473303 Wrote: 
> New FW finally got album art to go full screen in now playing (but it's
> scaled a touch too big; I'm sure they'll fix that soon enough).  I'm
> from the "the more artwork, the better" school.  To that end, I would
> say that the perfect NP screen for me would be full screen art with all
> borders and info being hidden until an action is taken.  Just like
> Windows "hide taskbar"
> 
> I know it's probably not everyone's cup of tea, but I think that would
> rule...:)

Agree with this.  I'd just rather see the artwork until I touch the
knob or something.  The controls should hang around until the
screensaver timeout after the last control motion.  Perhaps the "artwork
only" one is just a "true" screensaver?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio in the bathroom?

2009-10-18 Thread dwilliams01

I believe that I remember something being mentioned that it was only
rated for a "non-condensing environment".  So not in a steam room but
probably OK in a bathroom - the mirrors take up most of the humidity
anyway.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Remote control for Squeezebox Radio

2009-10-18 Thread dwilliams01

I almost replied that I'd never had a problem controlling the radio from
the controller - I do it all of the time and just did a quick test again
to be sure.  Then I noticed that you were using line-in and not the
"regular" playing modes of SbS and SN.  I guess I haven't done that. 
I'll see if I can duplicate that.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio in the bathroom?

2009-10-18 Thread FredFredrickson

It wasn't recommended by logitech, but I've got my beta unit in the
bathroom, and haven't had any trouble yet. No promises that it won't
affect it any day now, only that I haven't had any issues for the time
I've had it. (a few months i think)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Possible to set a macros to numbered buttons?

2009-10-18 Thread ghan

I've just tried this Kidsplay plugin - amazing!
Imagination is the only limit now on what these preset buttons can do i
think...
Thanks a lot for providing this plugin.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Red Radio - appearance and availability

2009-10-18 Thread ccrome2

Peter314;473903 Wrote: 
> 
> In light of the rumour that the red one has better sound quality, I
> expect they will sell out quickly! ;)

I don't know where that rumor came from, but unless red dye makes a big
acoustical difference, there is no difference between red and black :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio in the bathroom?

2009-10-18 Thread MeSue

Mine's been fine in the bathroom, but I try not to let it get too steamy
in there.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Red Radio - appearance and availability

2009-10-18 Thread Keymaster

ccrome2;474035 Wrote: 
> I don't know where that rumor came from, but unless red dye makes a big
> acoustical difference, there is no difference between red and black :-)

Just when I though I'd heard (no pun intended...o.k...I lie...very much
intended...) everything...

Maybe the red dye makes for a more rigid housing which would translate
to less loss due to housing flex/low end absorption?

...or I should go make a good sandwich and see what's on MediaFly... :b


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Preset buttons

2009-10-18 Thread diamar

So now that I've settled in a bit with my Squeezebox Radio (already
having a bunch of other SB products in my house), I see a crying need
for some improvement of the Preset buttons in two areas.

1) They're still pretty buggy (I trust that ultimately Logitech will
fix this). Specifically, it seems like using a preset to turn on the SB
frequently results in "empty" playlists. Power-cycling helps, but it
seems to come back periodically. I'll write up a bug once I figure out
the specific behavior.

2) It would be really nice to have a screensaver that displayed labels
for the preset buttons. I have a hard time remembering what's what. Does
anyone have an idea for how to do this?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio in the bathroom?

2009-10-18 Thread Goodsounds

dwilliams01;473976 Wrote: 
>  the mirrors take up most of the humidity anyway.

Are you suggesting that mirrors have a magnet-like effect to attract
and remove water vapor from the air? 

If you're getting condensation on mirrors, you're likely also getting
it on walls, ceilings, and other things in the room. Including on/in any
electronic devices, and the upshot of that will likely be damage. Just a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Red Radio - appearance and availability

2009-10-18 Thread toby10

Keymaster;474049 Wrote: 
> .
> ...or I should go make a good sandwich and see what's on MediaFly... :b

I hope you are using red mustard.it is so much better than yellow!


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Volume

2009-10-18 Thread cecilialuna

I'm new, so forgive me if this is answered already. I have to admit, I
didn't go through all the threads.

Ok, is it just my SB radio, or it standard...the volume is really low.
I know it's not a boombox, but still, in order for me to really hear it
on the other side of the room, the volume has to be 50 or above.

Is this a problem for anyone else?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Red Radio - appearance and availability

2009-10-18 Thread Peter314

ccrome2;474035 Wrote: 
> I don't know where that rumor came from, but unless red dye makes a big
> acoustical difference, there is no difference between red and black :-)

I have said too much. Suffice to say it definitely did NOT come from a
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Volume

2009-10-18 Thread peterw

cecilialuna;474160 Wrote: 
> Ok, is it just my SB radio, or it standard...the volume is really low. I
> know it's not a boombox, but still, in order for me to really hear it on
> the other side of the room, the volume has to be 50 or above.
> 
> Is this a problem for anyone else?

I think it's a deliberate design decision, so if you're using it on
your nightstand late at night, you can turn it really low and have it
not be too loud. I haven't seen any numbers from Logitech (and don't
have a SPL meter myself), but Boom's lowest volume is about 24 dB
quieter than Classic & Receiver for just this reason. As long as it's
loud enough in the 50-100 range, is this really a problem?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Volume

2009-10-18 Thread vw195

I have the same issue (if it is one) but since it sounds great at 75+
its kind of a nonissue for me


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Sync is very slightly off.

2009-10-18 Thread cornflakeguy

I'm watching this thread closely. I have a Boom, plan to buy a Touch for
the Living Room, and plan to buy 3 Radio's for the rest of the House.

I want all the Units SOLELY for Sync. If Sync is not flawless I need to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Volume

2009-10-18 Thread cornflakeguy

I had the same thoughts on my Boom.

Currently its on the nightstand and 20-25 is good...mainly cause its
right by my head.

I moved it to the kitchen, which is where it will go once I buy some
Radios, and to just hear it across the kitchen it needed to be at 50-55.


It concerned me as I wondered what the average safe operating volume is
on a Boom. If I need to crank it to 70 to be heard, is that ok? The high
numbers I think is what scares us. :)


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Alarm Volume

2009-10-18 Thread gdpeck

When my radio is connected to squeezebox server, the alarm volume never
goes above what the most recently used radio volume is. I'm testing this
using the Bongo Tech sound as my alarm. Alarms are set to fade in. I
have the alarm volume set at 81. If I don't play the radio after setting
the alarm, the alarm fades in to around 75. If I play the radio after
setting the alarm, the alarm only fades to the volume I set the radio to
play at. So if I'm listening to music quietly at night (say volume level
21), the alarm will never get louder than volume level 21. This is a
HUGE problem, as it won't wake myself or my wife up at that level.
Before I enter a bug, has anyone else seen this behavior? 

This does not happen when my radio is connected to mysqueezebox.com.

Thanks!
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Volume

2009-10-18 Thread ccrome2

This is a deliberate design decision.  It gives good resolution at the
low end, and plenty of loudness at the high end.   There is no way to
damage the device by playing it too loud -- there is digital limiting,
so even with an extremely hot input signal, no damage will happen.  It
may sound lousy when it clips, but that's clipping in the digital
domain.  Neither the amps or the speakers can get overloaded.

BTW, I'm planning to add some good compression to handle that clipping
case more gracefully, but it's not implemented yet.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Red Radio - appearance and availability

2009-10-18 Thread ccrome2

Keymaster;474049 Wrote: 
> Just when I though I'd heard (no pun intended...o.k...I lie...very much
> intended...) everything...
> 
> Maybe the red dye makes for a more rigid housing which would translate
> to less loss due to housing flex/low end absorption?
> 
> ...or I should go make a good sandwich and see what's on MediaFly... :b

Well.  Nothing's impossible.  I've heard of stranger things happening. 
We actually haven't thought to test the rigidity of red vs. black :-) 
I'd bet $0.25 it doesn't make any measurable difference.  But since I'd
be the one doing the measuring, I'll make sure I win.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Sluggish Interface

2009-10-18 Thread DiSNEYN

Only me that thinks that the new color Interface/Menu is very very
sluggish compared to the old monocrome/VFD menus?

I Hope that this only is a minor setback in early firmware and that you
will be able to fine-tune this to get a "fluid feeling" in the new color
interface system. 

I want FLUID moving menus. Not jumpy/choppy movement.

Any developers that have something to say about this? When changing to
the color system i hope that you had this in mind? Or isn't the new
screen able to show fluid movement?

Please respond.

/Hans, Sweden.  

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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Release date for Squeezebox Radio? Europe?

2009-10-18 Thread DiSNEYN

DiSNEYN;470927 Wrote: 
> Now the store is saying that they expect a shipment this week. I hope
> that this is true. Global Logistics suxs.
> 
> /H

Finally in stock here in Sweden and I've got my unit!

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