Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!

2010-06-11 Thread radikon

I thought I was technically challenged as I now enter my third year
non-stop effort of debugging (er testing) this duet controller/slim
devices/squeezebox server/player prototype for Logitech.  Now I see
that a veteran IT professional doesn’t “get it” either!  Albeit his
issues are with the radio portion, I too am flabbergasted that Logitech
deemed this a consumer hardened product….it’s great for techies who get
their skirts blown up by figuring out how to make something with
multiple failure “opportunities” function, but robust it is not.  I’m
not a newbie at home network stuff as I’ve set up print servers, have
two wireless routers in my home daisy chained, 3 computers networked on
them, etc.  All that stuff works great.  Given that and the fact the
folks like JonInAtl have issues too suggests that indeed the product is
lame.  If you planned to actually have a hassle free way of listening to
music with this beast…beware!

Don’t get me wrong; I’ve had my system working and working well for
time periods of maybe up to a month or so.  Then “something” happens
and nothing works….the little circle spins around for ever on the
controller….never telling me what it’s looking for or what it can’t do;
libraries that are mysteriously no longer configured in the
“Information” tab of the Squeezebox Server GUI; libraries that won’t
even scan anymore unless the server software is re-installed; can’t
connect to server messages; batteries that wouldn’t hold a charge
longer than 10 mins (yes, Logitech sent me a new one after contacting
them…but why was it ever an issue to begin with?); can’t access
library, can’t, can’t, can’t or won’t, won’t, won’t.  And forget the
wireless setup to the player; employing an Ethernet cable thru my attic
2 years ago fixed a lot of stuff and allowed the new vista of problems
to fully blossom.

My setup?

A Dell M4400 laptop as my server (I had a Dell 1150 before with the
same problem set I have now) with 250 Gb (flac & mp3) of  music stored
on an external Western Digital Mybook 500 Gb hard drive connected via
USB 2.0.  I run Windows XP; the Duet has software version 7.5.0 r8673;
the SBS software is v 7.5.0 –r30464.  No, I can’t believe it’s a
software level issue…I’ve been thru multiple software upgrades…usually
they only make things worse.  Connection of the router to the player is
via Ethernet as is connection of the laptop to the router. Yes, the
Mybook has a script built into it that shuts it down after a certain
amount of time.  Yes, I think this is my current problem because
squeeze box server can’t wake it up.  Sometimes even Windows Explorer
can’t wake it up but usually it can.  No, I don’t know how to prevent
the MyBook from powering down.  No, you can’t manage the power down via
the “Power Options” in Widows XP…that is already set to “Never” turn off
hard disks.  No, I don’t want to put all my music on the internal drive
of the laptop because of space limitations. Yes, I leave my laptop
powered on all the time when it’s at home (because of Squeezebox). 
Yes, I occasionally unplug my laptop from the external drive and take
it somewhere….it’s a laptop.  Yes, the external drive appears to map
back to the original drive letter “E” when I plug the laptop back into
my home peripherals.  I can always get things working again by either
running the factory setup on the Duet and/or by reinstalling the server
software and rescanning….about a 30 minute procedure…but that’s a lot to
do when you just want to chill to some tunes after coming home;
shuffling CD’s around is easier or plugging in my MP3 player. Yes, I’m
fond of semi-colons.

If anyone has any tips on this situation I’d be very appreciative of
your help.  I’ll even commit Logitech to compensating you for your
time.  Best wishes & Thanks to JonInAtl and the thousands of other
frustrated users in recognition of their millions of un-compensated,
GDP draining man-hours spent on this product.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeeeze Box Radio turn off by Itself

2010-06-11 Thread cornflakeguy

It happens to me but only when streaming Sirius. Anywhere from 2 hours
to 1 min of streaming.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!

2010-06-11 Thread RoseRedd

Thanks for your response.  We are using 7.5.0 and we were using the
setting automatic update and suddenly about 1-2 months ago, it stopped
playing most of our music and would just time out.  I know one file we
are trying to play is an mpeg-4.  I have a lot of these files and my
Squeezebox definitely used to play them. If not, I would never have
used this system in the first place.  When I try to play these files it
say Problem: can't open file:... I am using a mac with operating system
10.5.8. I can't think of any more information. Thanks.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!

2010-06-11 Thread garym

If you are here to vent, mission accomplished. But if you'd like help
you should provide details on your system, server, types of files,
error messages, etc. Most problems can be solved but it does require a
systematic approach. 

And no version of SbS has ever played DRM files purchased from iTunes.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!

2010-06-11 Thread RoseRedd

I cannot play most of my music.  It say the file can't open. I called
the support group and they took me through a bunch of useless steps
before telling me that the new upgrade won't allow me to play mp4s and
other types of files (which is most of my music!).  They said to
convert my files (I don't have 40 free hours to do this) but a few that
I tried it on don't work.  Why can't they revert back to the old version
that could play music???  I can't figure out how to download 7.4.2
instead.  I am mad.  I am thinking about Sonos instead.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] Updated Firmware

2010-06-11 Thread ciarmer

Two weeks ago, Logitech Customer Support told me that they were planning
to finish testing the new firmware by 6/7 (this past Monday). Then they
would be pushing the update out to customers. This was not a promise.
It was just a target. Today, I reached out to them again for a status.
Here is their response:

"We had to push it back due to 3 more bug fixes that made it in just as
we were gearing up to push it out the door. We're expecting it if not
Monday than by latest Wednesday." 

The Wednesday date would be June 16.

I'm not sure if anyone else is getting these types of responses. I
still am holding out hope that our SBR's will be "fixed" soon.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!

2010-06-11 Thread aubuti

notwired;553943 Wrote: 
> What about this line from their website?
> 
> A compact all-in-one network music player and alarm that lets you rock
> the house with the digital music on your computer and the Internet.
> 
> Maybe to you "all-in-one" implies that you need to run a separate
> server but to me it implies just the opposite.
Uh duh... in this case "all-in-one" means it has a built-in amp and
speakers. You have a valid complaint about the alarm not working with
mysb.com, but your interpretation of "all-in-one" is just bs,
especially considering it mentions "digital music on your computer" in
the very same sentence.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] The alarm does not work

2010-06-11 Thread 0xdeadbeef

Come on people, please face it: the Radio is an annoying brick without a
local server. Bugging everybody who states this fact with the same old
"everything is fine with a local server" sermon is really more than
annoying.

There is no hint and no trick to get the Radio to work as promised
without a local server. Only the folks at Logitech could fix this and
they didn't care to do so in the last 8 months or so. Maybe they'll fix
it one day by chance or because they finally realize how broken the
whole system design is, but I wouldn't bet on it.

The only sensible answer is: return it if you still can and maybe look
at it again in a year or so (if the brand still exists then). Write a
negative review on Amazon. Never buy an alpha software product again
even if the brand was once a great one.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] The alarm does not work

2010-06-11 Thread Thomas8675309

Linger;554026 Wrote: 
> Logitech is aware of this issue and is doing nothing to fix it. Their
> tech support said there would be a firmware update. I don't want to
> return my radio. I love listening to internet stations and the sound is
> great. I want to get more logitech speakers if I can find ones that
> sound this good. But I want my radio alarm to work.

Yet still refuse to answer the questions that others have asked you. 
Why not give someone the tools to help you?

I have two radios.  They both work well, including the alarms.  They
don't use mysqueezebox.com - both connect through a month-old beta
version of squeezeboxserver 7.6, which I have running on a computer in
the basement.  The alarms go off when they are supposed to. 
Occasionally, when the wake-up sound is an internet radio station and
the alarm time is a round number (like 7:00am, rather than 6:58am or
7:02am), I don't get the internet radio station and instead get the
backup alarm sound.  If I use my own music from the squeezeboxserver,
that problem doesn't occur.  Likewise, if I choose a non-round number
for the alarm time, that problem hasn't occur.  And when the problem
did occur - twice in the last month - I got the backup alarm sound.

I assume your setup is different from mine.  Perhaps if you answer the
questions asked, someone here can help you fix the problem - even if
tech support is showing you no love.

Cheers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 2 SB Radio - one works, one doesn't

2010-06-11 Thread Tony T

psulatycke;554134 Wrote: 
> Thanks for the replies.  The good SB is not plugged in.  I'm not trying
> to get them to work together, just trying to get the bad one working.
> 
> Yes, pandora is turned on.
> I now have it plugged in with the ethernet cable, still have problems.
> 
> I can play music from my lib but nothing else seems to work without the
> connection getting reset, including radio station, Pandora and Rhapsody.
> I'll try some more apps but it seems to be anything getting internet
> access.

Sounds like a bad unit.  If you just bought it and can get an exchange
at no cost to you, then get a new unit.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 2 SB Radio - one works, one doesn't

2010-06-11 Thread psulatycke

Thanks for the replies.  The good SB is not plugged in.  I'm not trying
to get them to work together, just trying to get the bad one working.

Yes, pandora is turned on.
I now have it plugged in with the ethernet cable, still have problems.

I can play music from my lib but nothing else seems to work without the
connection getting reset, including radio station, Pandora and Rhapsody.
I'll try some more apps but it seems to be anything getting internet
access.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] I am getting totally fed up!

2010-06-11 Thread notwired

Well, I must say... the last 3 posts put a smile on my face.

Thanks bluegaspode, diannabill and Fahzz. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 2 SB Radio - one works, one doesn't

2010-06-11 Thread toby10

Try disconnecting the working Radio from your network (just unplug it).
Now try the problem Radio, does it stream properly by itself?
Is it just Pandora & Rhapsody that are causing this?  Will it stream
simple stations without issue?

Go to www.MySqueezeBox.com > My Apps > Pandora > Player Settings
Make sure each App is Enabled for both Radio's.

Pandora allows multiple players to play the same stream or different
streams.
Dunno about Rhapsody.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] The alarm does not work

2010-06-11 Thread mhuew

Linger;554026 Wrote: 
> ... But I want my radio alarm to work.

Hi Linger,
the following works for me for month without any problems:
- install the app "sounds & effects"
- choose one of these sounds as the alarm sound.
My alarm starts every day at the right time and plays the sound.
(I don't think that it makes a difference for this scenario but I'm
connected to mysb and not to a local server.)
wkr mhuew


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] The alarm does not work

2010-06-11 Thread bluegaspode

> But I want my radio alarm to work. 
simsboard;553889 Wrote: 
> to help you with your alarm issue it would at least be necessary what
> kind of configuration you've set up at home - e.g. 
> *) are you connected to the squeezebox-server which runs in your home
> network
> *) are you connected to mysb.com
> *) how do you define "does not work" => does it mean the alarm does not
> ring at all or just be back-up alarm is played
> *) do you probably have a chance to connect to your radio via winscp
> and post the log-file?
> 
> I know that this might be a lot of questions but there are already a
> number of different problems with the alarm so it is necessary get as
> much information as possible to be able to help!
> .


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