Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Presets and Dynamic playlist

2010-10-24 Thread erland

socistep;584513 Wrote: 
> Hi All
> 
> Does anyone know if the above is possible? I would like to save a
> dynamic playlist as a preset on my radio and can't seem to do it
> 
> Thanks
> Ian
> 
I hadn't realized it didn't work, I have presets but I had them set
them up before Logitech decided to split presets and favorites. I guess
I'll have to look at what's needed to make it work again.

However, for me it worked to:
1. Setup a Dynamic Playlist as a Favorite through the web interface
2. On the Radio, navigate to the Favorites menu and navigate to the
favorite you just created and hold down one of the preset buttons for a
while.

I'm not sure if this still works if you remove the favorite but it's
probably good enough until I've got around to fix it so you can do it
directly from the Dynamic Playlists menu.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] working perfectly

2010-10-24 Thread alfista

erland;584893 Wrote: 
> As an example, Logitech have had huge problems with their MySB servers
> in Europe a few months back and this only affected users in Europe
> while it believe it worked perfectly in US at the same time.
Yep, the european data center is a sad tale. If I got it right, it
doesn't just serve Europe, in fact I believe it serves all of the world
except USA. So while MySB has reportedly worked fairly well in USA there
have been far more problems everywhere else. It should also be mentioned
that the problems has mainly affected Squeezeplay devices (Touch, Radio
and Controller).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] working perfectly

2010-10-24 Thread erland

If you like this thread to turn into something that might be useful also
for Logitech it would be great if you guys also mention in which part of
the world you live. The reason is that there are different MySB servers
used depending in which area of the world you are. As an example,
Logitech have had huge problems with their MySB servers in Europe a few
months back and this only affected users in Europe while it believe it
worked perfectly in US at the same time.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] working perfectly

2010-10-24 Thread Ikabob

Yes, my radios work perfectly too. Only a small minority are having a
problem. The Squeezebox system is awesome. The radio is cool.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] working perfectly

2010-10-24 Thread fatboy66

Hello,

When I first powered it up the radio found new firmware and asked for
permission. I gave it and the new software was installed. I've used
mysb.com to install pandora and live365, tried the internet remote. 

Thats about it for touching it with server and update software. I have
no plans of using my own server. I use it for internet radio not my own
collection. Love it!

Using the radio's interface directly I've searched for and added new
stations and made some favorites. I've already been through a few
stations on the 6 presets.

When I first got it and was pressing buttons right and left quickly I
had to reboot it once or twice. Since I've used it normally I've not
had to. 

I've been using it everyday for over a week. Not a long time but days
of standard use for me. 

I think that's the extent of my setup.

One cool trick I've found is if you give the big knob a quick double
spin, as in a single flick moving the knob at least 4 or 5 detents and
then another seperate flick just like the first with little delay
between them, the displayed art changes from large to small and vs
versa. Nice.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] working perfectly

2010-10-24 Thread BLatSD

fatboy66;584721 Wrote: 
> Lucky for me, the radio works perfectly, even the alarms. I use
> mysqueezebox.com.

Yes indeed, lucky for you!  Bear in mind that every owner/user will use
the radio in different ways, in different wireless signal scenarios,
different stations, different apps, etc., so everyone's mileage does
vary.

Have you installed any new firmwares since you bought your radio?  Have
you EVER connected it to a PC Squeezebox Server?  If I recall, my radio
worked rather well until I installed the first firmware release &
connected it to my PC's SB server the first time.  I believe the
process permanently scrambles memory somehow & that the data the two
servers exchange with the radio are incompatible.  After this, your
radio is no longer a virgin and will never be a virgin again because a
factory reset does not restore the original firmware.  And then you
read through the forums and hope that a beta firmware will solve your
problems, and it just makes it worse.  Then you go back to the current
release and it's too late.  Damage is done.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread BLatSD

erland;584723 Wrote: 
> Have you looked at the source code or is this just a general comment
> that you would be able to fix any issue within a couple of weeks ?

I have not looked at the source code, and I apologize to those that
have. But we do know that the radio functions well with a PC server so
it "should" just be a matter of applying that code to the MySB.com
servers.  I just think more should/could have been accomplished on this
front in the 6+ months I've owned the radio.  With the nightly builds,
theres a sense that all development manpower is being applied to SBS
which most of you agree functions well while no one seems to be looking
at MySB.com.

> You can complain all you want in this community forum and most of us
> completely agree with you and sympathize with your situation.

I will say that the ONLY reason I added my voice to this thread is the
personal frustration that boils up when I see posts like "My radio
works perfect"...  This is the wrong message for Logitech to be
receiving.  It leaves out the 2nd half of the story, which is "It only
works perfect when you run it with a PC server."   No one said that, so
I had to.

The thread seems to be more of a pile-on against this oxdeadbeef guy
who apparently has a history of irritating you folks, so I probably
should have just kept my nose out of it.

> It's just that we are a bit frustrated because the only solution we as
> the community can offer is that you call Logitech support

Which I've done (see post #32).  Still waiting for the fix.  I got the
same results when I posted in the "official" forum, which is, no
results, no response, no acknowledgement.  To those that say over and
over that Logitech does not read these forums, that may be their
"policy," but we all know it's not true.  I've seen dozens of posts by
the developers here, often weekly.  We know they DO read & respond to
posts here, specifically bug reports.  So please, STOP repeating this
false statement.

> Yes, I understand that replacing it with something else might not be
> easy because I haven't seen any other portable optionally battery
> powered networked music player that beats the Radio at the same price
> range.

I don't know if it has a battery powered option (don't care) but owners
of the Grace Innovator seem to be pretty happy.  The larger selection of
MySB.com apps and the color display over Grace's ugly blue LED display
is all that swayed my decision to go with SB instead.  So it was a
trade-off - More bugs for more functionality.

> However, I suspect most people complaining isn't really complaining
> about the music player, they are complaining about that the alarm
> doesn't work

There's the color display that often shows a black & white antenna
image instead of the station's color logo, shuffle play that only works
if you jump through hoops, menu items that mysteriously disappear,
MySB.com app items that you mark as "Don't show" which do (& vice
versa), etc...  You almost need to be an IT tech to diagnose &
workaround some of the issues which granted, goes with the territory of
being a wireless device.  I think a pile of user issues would have been
prevented if it had only been fitted with a connector for an optional
external antenna.  The side of your bed doesn't always have the most
optimal signal.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio Alarm - Repeating same broadcast

2010-10-24 Thread bpa

The problem with using the URls you show is that they only one of a list
of URL which is used for load balancing. Without using the originating 
list you could be hitting BBC server loading issue.  

Can you play Radio 1 with this URL ?

http://bbc.co.uk/radio/listen/live/r1.asx


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio Alarm - Repeating same broadcast

2010-10-24 Thread sneeks

That is the URL copied from my favourites, I added it via the iPlayer
app on the SB radio. I have found another link online which I will test
tomorrow

mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/bbc_ami/radio1/radio1_bb_live_eq1_sl0#slim:noscan=1


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio Alarm - Repeating same broadcast

2010-10-24 Thread bpa

That URL comes from another URL - what is the original URL in your
Favorites ?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio Alarm - Repeating same broadcast

2010-10-24 Thread sneeks

The URL I am currently using is from my favourites list and if I select
this manually I get the current live broadcast.

mms://wmlive-acl.bbc.co.uk/wms/bbc_ami/radio1/radio1_bb_live_eq1_sl0?BBC-UID=745bfe592eb0268b43d0444b41d64de0e2fa7af1c0e09184b43f48ac36c08efc&SSO2-UID=


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio Alarm - Repeating same broadcast

2010-10-24 Thread bpa

Copy the URL you are using to play Radio 1 to a post so that it can be
checked.


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[SlimDevices: Radio] SB Radio Alarm - Repeating same broadcast

2010-10-24 Thread sneeks

I have my SB Radio set to play BBC Radio 1 every morning and rather than
play the live broadcast from that day I mainly get the exact same show
repeated over and over again at the exact same song, beginning to feel
like Groundhog Day!!! Every so often it will play the live broadcast
but then the next day revert to the looped show which originally aired
over 2 months ago now.

Any ideas where I am going wrong? The alarm is configured to use the
BBC Radio 1 stream from my favourites.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread toby10

0xdeadbeef;584827 Wrote: 
> .
> But if you should ever experience a lucid moment of seldom insight, you
> should ask yourself how your "everything is great if we just deny the
> truth" attitude contributed to this thread. Did it make the software
> better, did it make the problems go away, did it make any sense? Nope?
> Yeah, so why don't you just let it be the next time?

CORRECT!  You finally got it! Herein lies the ENTIRE point we have been
TRYING to get you to understand!

Can we make the software better?  NO
Can we make your problem go away?  NO
Do I and the others make sense in attempting to convince you your
rantings are pointless?  YES (but not to you of course ;))

So again, CORRECT, NO ONE on this forum can HELP you, no matter how
many thousands of tantrums you choose to post.  Yet you continue this
repetitive, silly, childish, ranting in the WRONG PLACE!

And you think *WE* are not lucid?   LOL


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread toby10

0xdeadbeef;584827 Wrote: 
> Well, it's always nice to see the fanboys happy. Maybe you really
> believe this "there are only a few unappy customers" rubbish after all.
> Hard to believe, but yeah well.
> 
> But if you should ever experience a lucid moment of seldom insight, you
> should ask yourself how your "everything is great if we just deny the
> truth" attitude contributed to this thread. Did it make the software
> better, did it make the problems go away, did it make any sense? Nope?
> Yeah, so why don't you just let it be the next time?

Physician, heal thyself.

Let it be indeed.  Get a life.  :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread bluegaspode

0xdeadbeef;584827 Wrote: 
> you should ask yourself how your "everything is great if we just deny
> the truth" attitude contributed to this thread. Did it make the
> software better, did it make the problems go away, did it make any
> sense? 

You might not be aware of it, but there is a very long thread about how
we (members of the community) changed and improved the alarm feature
together with logitech developers:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=72871

While this shouldn't have ended there it was the best we could do at
the time with the given architecture.

Also some other people from this thread did great contributions to the
platform (just look at all the plugins from erland). This unfortunately
isn't available to MySB.com users, as we can only hack/extend a local
server installation.
There is even an addition by erland which can replace the current alarm
window to show a big clock for those who don't like the official menu.
There is also a patch to change the volume of the backup alarm, there
are also instructions on this forum how to change the sound.

So yes - we did make the software better and also made some problems go
away (see my sig for other problems we could solve).

Because we realized we had to help ourselfs to get even more
satisfaction with our devices.
Something we couldn't have done on any other platform as Squeezebox is
the only open platform.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread snarlydwarf

0xdeadbeef;584827 Wrote: 
> 
> But if you should ever experience a lucid moment of seldom insight...

> 
> 2) Insulting people or telling them that they should shut off or that
> they are whining or that they should just ignore the problem is NOT a
> valid point in a discussion. You would assume that grown ups would know
> this, but yeah well.

Consistency.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread 0xdeadbeef

Well, it's always nice to see the fanboys happy. Maybe you really
believe this "there are only a few unappy customers" rubbish after all.
Hard to believe, but yeah well.

But if you should ever experience a lucid moment of seldom insight, you
should ask yourself how your "everything is great if we just deny the
truth" attitude contributed to this thread. Did it make the software
better, did it make the problems go away, did it make any sense? Nope?
Yeah, so why don't you just let it be the next time?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread pippin

bluegaspode;584815 Wrote: 
> There is this 'Add to Reputation' button on the top right for what it's
> worth *g* 
> I'm not sure though if anyone but me can see this 'reputation'.

"Add to Reputation" is anonymous, I believe. Also, I can't set it with
Tapatalk.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread copperstate

I agree with bluegaspode. When I was looking for a internet radio to
replace my failing Radioclock, I tried lots of different brands but the
only one to  deliver the goods (for me) was the SB Radio. All other are
much worse imho.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread bluegaspode

There is this 'Add to Reputation' button on the top right for what it's
worth *g* 
I'm not sure though if anyone but me can see this 'reputation'.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread pippin

I miss an "I like this" button for this post!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread bluegaspode

Maybe we should see it differently:

deadbeef says he still has a failing alarm every day (it takes a lot to
still use it then every day). He is the biggest critic of the Radio and
the least adopter of workarounds.

And still he owns it.
And still he participates on this forum.

What better proof is there around that right now there is nothing
competitive on the market ?

While we all might not be happy, we at least have a device that makes
as the least unhappy compared to all alternatives.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread toby10

...and...again... 

How is your latest rant going to solve your problem?
How are your recent regurgitated paragraphs "valid" in a user
discussion board where you are only ranting the same issues over and
over?
Your opinion has been heard NUMEROUS times, and you are right where you
were six months ago.  How "sensible" is that?

Call an attorney.  Protest outside of every retailer that sells the
"piece of crap" Radio.  Sponsor SB Radio burning parties.  
Buy Logitech stock and show up at the next stock holders meeting where
you can yell, scream, jump up and down, punch the COO in the nose if
you wish.

Honestly, you are reaching the point of acting like a child.  Move on
with your life.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread 0xdeadbeef

Ok, some people here just don't seem know what a sensible discussion
would look like. Some hints:
1) If you're not able to argue against a valid point, that just don't
try to discuss. 
2) Insulting people or telling them that they should shut off or that
they are whining or that they should just ignore the problem is NOT a
valid point in a discussion. You would assume that grown ups would know
this, but yeah well.
3) Uttering an opinion is NOT a plea for help. If you think you need to
help everybody with a different opinion, then maybe something's wrong
with you, not him.
4) A discussion forum is a place to state your opinion. Is is not
necessarily a place to state only YOUR opinion.

So yeah, the Radio's software is crap and it renders it nearly
unusable. Even if I kicked my Radio out of the window, this simple
truth would not change. And even if I'd accept all its weaknesses and
work around them by running a server 24/7, shutting it down every day
and doing magical rituals to lower the chance of complete failure, the
software would still be crap simply because it forces me as a user to
do things to make it work instead of simply working.

And yeah, I don't care if the programmers are incapable, underpaid or
if their workload was/is too high. What counts for me as a customer is
the result. And the result is crap. Taking into account the estimated
complexity of an internet radio clock and the fact that every Chinese
company with one underpaid programmer is able to implement at least
this basic functionality in a few months, it is simply inexcusable that
the basic functionality is still not working one whole year after the
release.


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Radio < �100

2010-10-24 Thread dave77

Just noticed it's been reduced on Amazon if anyone's interested :)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002N2YZYU/ref=s9_simh_gw_p23_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=center-2&pf_rd_r=1379WS1Q5A70B7C2B8YZ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=467128533&pf_rd_i=468294


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread garym

0xdeadbeef;584610 Wrote: 
> in my humble opinion it's beneath contempt to call justified criticism
> "whining" and everybody who does so is not really worth arguing with.

criticism is fine (and companies need this feedback). "Whining" is when
you continue making the same criticisms to the wrong people. If I
constantly barrage my neighbor with complaints about ATT's phone
service, she will eventually avoid me at all costs. Yes, she is a phone
user, she may even use ATT. But she's not the phone company and she's
not the official complaint channel.

I do (eventually) see answers/responses from Logitech folks at the
official forums. They may not be that timely and they may or may not
help, but they are reading the those forums. They DO NOT read these
forums.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Logitech don't care about us ! Class Action

2010-10-24 Thread pippin

@deadbeef

You are wrong. Logitech has good developers and they don't need to hire
better ones.
They might need to hire more, though or put back into the project those
60 or 70% they pulled off.

It's a question of management priorities, not developers. If you were
told by the mgmt that your medical software needs facebook integration,
not reliability the outcome would be similar (note: I'm exaggerating
here!)

@iPhone
You are wrong, too. I'm pretty sure the majority of Radio buyers only
want to use it with MySB.
This is the issue here. The product was originally designed with a
local server in mind but that's not how it works today. Since MySB
doesn't earn money there probably wasn't put enough effort into
developing/maintaining it. I could be wrong but my impression is that
there is only one person working on this and I think is that person
left Logitech would probably be in deep trouble with the product line.


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