Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Well, there were definitely variations even before. I do have two radios (both older) that have completely different display lighting. The newer one (of these two) REALLY sucks at this. AFAIK the light sensor did change in some hardware revision, indeed. -- Michael ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Well, there were definitely variations even before. I do have two radios (both older) that have completely different display lighting. The newer one (of these two) REALLY sucks at this. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pippin wrote: > Not really. I just remembered that earlier this year "baby2" firmware > strings started to show up in the firmware repos. > > And recently a friend of mine tried to do the same thing as you: > installing a 7.5.x firmware on a newly purchased Radio. > It failed with obscure errors and he SSH'ed into the device and had a > look at the logs and there was a message about an incompatible firmware > revision. > I think his Radio came with a 7.7.1 firmware pre installed so it looks > you can't go back to pre-7.7.1 firmware revisions. There simply is no > compatible firmware for older server versions. > > The crashes being caused are probably because there is no mechanism to > distinguish the devices (both are called baby) so your server will try > to install the old version even though it's not compatible. This is very interesting ,there where also a chap that reported that his new Radio sounded different ? Speculation baby2=UE Radio , the last hw revision of the old radio may possibly be the first version of UE ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Not really. I just remembered that earlier this year "baby2" firmware strings started to show up in the firmware repos. And recently a friend of mine tried to do the same thing as you: installing a 7.5.x firmware on a newly purchased Radio. It failed with obscure errors and he SSH'ed into the device and had a look at the logs and there was a message about an incompatible firmware revision. I think his Radio came with a 7.7.1 firmware pre installed so it looks you can't go back to pre-7.7.1 firmware revisions. There simply is no compatible firmware for older server versions. The crashes being caused are probably because there is no mechanism to distinguish the devices (both are called baby) so your server will try to install the old version even though it's not compatible. pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio Price
garym wrote: > yeah, I couldn't help myself and actually bought another red radio when > they went to $99. I think I'm done with spares now (3 touches and 3 > radios). (well, until they start selling Touch players for $19.99) well logitech has the SB back to $119, amazon is at $150 now, I guess all of us that want one are driving the price of whats left up http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/squeezebox-radio-white?crid=1001 A AlanF51's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=52671 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97413 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
pippin wrote: > I don't think there will be dramatic differences between the hardware. > One thing you should be aware of, though (and which I just learned) is > that Logitech seems to have started selling a 2nd revision of the Radio > sometimes this year. For this revision, only firmware versions for LMS > 7.7.1 and newer are available, I'd guess this is likely also what's in > the UE Radio pippin, can you point me to more information about this Radio revision? I'm having trouble loading firmware 7.5.1 on my new Radio, but if I can verify via the serial number or some other information that I have one of the "2nd revision" of the Radio that refer to, then I will give up my attempts. rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
didjean wrote: > Maybe you can't update because of this: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97331-Downgrade-UE-Smart-Radio-to-Squeeze-OS&p=727213&viewfull=1#post727213 > ? Thanks didjean, I will follow up within this posts thread. I know I have the firmware file on my server, and I'm still hoping that there is a way to have the Radio recognize it. rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
Mnyb wrote: > You can try to start the upgrade manually from the server from the same > menu ,does this works differently than trying it automatically ? I didn't know you could upgrade from the server. At this point, I'm initiating the upgrading from the Radio which is trying to upgrade from the firmware file stored on the server (the upgrade screen on the Radio refers to my server name, and I checked the server folder to verify that the proper firmware file is there). I did see a posting (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Custom.baby.version) about custom Radio firmware updates, but it was too esoteric for me. I looked at the server options but I did not see an option to initiate manual upgrades from the server. Is this a command line function? rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
didjean wrote: > Excellent! > Which instructions have you followed ? I used the steps outlined at http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?96256-Upgrade-SB-Radio-to-UE-Radio&p=725564&viewfull=1#post725564 . I also had to uncomment a line in /usr/share/jive/applets/SetupFirmwareUpgrade/SetupFirmwareUpgradeMeta.lua to reveal the Update Software option in the Advanced settings menu. Jonvw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
That's indeed really good to know :) pippin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13777 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Jonvw wrote: > Using the instructions in the other thread, I was able to downgrade a UE > Smart Radio purchased in a store to a SB Radio. Easy peasy, no hiccups. cool! Thanks for reporting back. bluegaspode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=31651 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Excellent! didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Downgrade UE Smart Radio to Squeeze OS
Using the instructions in the other thread, I was able to downgrade a UE Smart Radio purchased in a store to a SB Radio. Easy peasy, no hiccups. Jonvw's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97331 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
Maybe you can't update because of this: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?97331-Downgrade-UE-Smart-Radio-to-Squeeze-OS&p=727213&viewfull=1#post727213 ? didjean's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2900 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
rich.herbs wrote: > You are right that I'd prefer (for various reasons) staying with 7.5 for > now. I've got one Radio working well, and I'm hoping I can get the > second to work also. As for updating directly from mysqueezebox.com, I > think that's what got me into trouble in the first place when the Radio > downloaded and installed the 7.7.2 firmware. > > Or is there a way to point the Radio to a downgrade to the older > firmware at mysqueezebox.com? The Radio seems to not recognize the > 7.5.1 firmware file that is available on my server and I don't know how > to troubleshoot the problem. You can try to start the upgrade manually from the server from the same menu ,does this works differently than trying it automatically ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
Mnyb wrote: > You could try to update it directly from mysqueezebox.com ,but you migth > not want to as you seems to prefer an old version of the server ? You are right that I'd prefer (for various reasons) staying with 7.5 for now. I've got one Radio working well, and I'm hoping I can get the second to work also. As for updating directly from mysqueezebox.com, I think that's what got me into trouble in the first place when the Radio downloaded and installed the 7.7.2 firmware. Or is there a way to point the Radio to a downgrade to the older firmware at mysqueezebox.com? The Radio seems to not recognize the 7.5.1 firmware file that is available on my server and I don't know how to troubleshoot the problem. rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
You could try to update it directly from mysqueezebox.com ,but you migth not want to as you seems to prefer an old version of the server ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
castalla wrote: > Could be wrong but I think the Radio requires at least 7.6 LMS Thanks for the quick reply. The Logitech Hardware Comparison (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_comparison) states the Radio requires 7.4 or above. In addition, it's only my second Radio that's stuck in the firmware limbo, my first one works fine. rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 24/96 playback on Radio via LMS772
travelfotografer wrote: > I do know that with EDO, Touch works with 24/192 FLAC (with LMS772). But > why go for the lesser 24/96 when 24/192 is available, please elaborate? > > Thanks, > Leon They sound the same and cost less :) There is no point with them and they work with a standard Touch (,see my signature for a good link). 24/96 is more than enough as an end user format for human consumption ,more is just more not better . Note that i mean home playback there are a lot reasons to run the studio equipment at very high rates as they do all sort of stuff with it. Unless the provider of the files are bit shady and the different rates offered are not from the same master or maybe you don't trust their way of converting stuff :-/ For example with HD tracks you never know the original could have been an old 16/48 master even for the 24/192 . (lets not even touch the topic if 24/192 for 45 year old analog recordings it equals using a gallon bucket for carrying a cup of water ) I Also collect some hirez stuff myself ,but be aware that much if is not what it says on the tin , a large percentage of SACD are fakes too for example. If you feel that or have information that a certain 24/192 version actually are the best master available by all means get it , but these bit-rates is one the least important infos on if a master is a good or not. it has become a sales moniker some good remasters are packaged as 24/96 or 24/192 . But thats not why they are good , a new CD version of these better version would also be fantastic too but a harder sell to audiophiles . Knowing that you can convert it to suitable formats for your own use and actually don't loose sound quality But this is bit off topic . Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97432 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
Could be wrong but I think the Radio requires at least 7.6 LMS castalla's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15624 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] Radio fails firmware update to 7.5.1 r9218
Ive got a Transporter, 2 Squeezebox Classic and one Radio working flawlessly with a 7.5.1 server running on Ubuntu 10.04. I just bought a Touch and a second Radio. I connected the Touch to the wireless network, and it immediately updated and rebooted itself. Upon reboot, it announced that a software update to 7.5.1 r9812 was required. I started the update which completed properly and the Touch has worked fine ever since. So far so good. When I started the Radio, it downloaded 7.7.2 r9663 from mysqueezebox.com and rebooted. Next it connected to my server and announced that a software update to 7.5.1 r9812 was required. I selected Begin Update and: - The download stops at zero percent - The network connection icon blinks orange - The screen announces that the Update failed At this point, the Radio shows up in the server status (proper IP address, firmware 7.7.2-r9663), but does not play music from the server and continually suggests the update, which fails every time. Heres what I tried without getting different results: - Wired connection - same failure - Test network - No problems detected - Tried a reset to factory settings - Tried a restart with the Rew button pressed to reset the firmware - Looked at the Radios Software Updates and found: * Update 7.7.2 r9663 - [mysqueezebox.com] * Update 7.5.1 r9812 - [my server name] - Verified that the proper firmware files were installed on the servers firmware folder I assume from browsing the forum that my mistake was to connect to mysqueezebox. com and download the 7.7.2 update and now it will not revert to the older firmware. My 5 other Squeeze devices are working fine and for various reasons, I want to avoid upgrading the server version. Is there a way to troubleshoot why the Radio fails to download the firmware file from my server? rich.herbs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58334 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97436 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 24/96 playback on Radio via LMS772
Mnyb wrote: > > This is in fact a valid use case for EDO if you got some 24/192 files > they would normally transcode to 24/96 to a standard Touch ,(btw If the > site selling the hirez offers 24/96 and 24/192 go for the "lesser" one > .) > I do know that with EDO, Touch works with 24/192 FLAC (with LMS772). But why go for the lesser 24/96 when 24/192 is available, please elaborate? Thanks, Leon travelfotografer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97432 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 24/96 playback on Radio via LMS772
travelfotografer wrote: > Thanks for your reply. I am new to this as I mostly play my music on a > Touch with EDO. > > So for transcoding to happen, SOX must be separately installed, i.e. it > is not part of LMS? > > I did a keyword search on the squeezeplug thread and there was a comment > that the plug computers' cpu has no floating point and transcoding can > not be done in real time, so no point in installing SOX in any case? > > Leon Exactly ,this binary is usually installed with LMS on many platforms ,ut it may depend on the install package , it is excluded in some NAS version as it wont work anyway and there is no version avaible for certian types of cpu . This would not be a problem with your Touch as it does 24/96 fine and sometimes 24/192 with EDO . This is in fact a valid use case for EDO if you got some 24/192 files they would normally transcode to 24/96 to a standard Touch ,(btw If the site selling the hirez offers 24/96 and 24/192 go for the "lesser" one .) You can also use foobar2000 or dBpower amp and samplerate convert to 24/48 and use those copies if playing and syncing with the Radio is an important use case for you Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97432 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 24/96 playback on Radio via LMS772
Mnyb wrote: > Most likely that the dockstar does not have the CPU power to run the > transcoding ,do you have the SOX binary installed ? Thanks for your reply. I am new to this as I mostly play my music on a Touch with EDO. So for transcoding to happen, SOX must be separately installed, i.e. it is not part of LMS? I did a keyword search on the squeezeplug thread and there was a comment that the plug computers' cpu has no floating point and transcoding can not be done in real time, so no point in installing SOX in any case? Leon travelfotografer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97432 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] 24/96 playback on Radio via LMS772
travelfotografer wrote: > I understand that the Radio natively supports max 24/48. I have a 24/96 > album on my local LMS772 running on a squeezeplug (seagate dockstar). I > was expecting that LMS will convert the 24/96 to 24/48 for the Radio. > However, when I try to play album on the Radio, the Radio just goes into > Pause mode. Album is encoded in FLAC. > > Radio has no problems with playing FLACs under 24/48 served by LMS772. > > Any insights? > > Thanks, > Leon Most likely that the dockstar does not have the CPU power to run the transcoding ,do you have the SOX binary installed ? Mnyb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4143 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97432 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
[SlimDevices: Radio] 24/96 playback on Radio via LMS772
I understand that the Radio natively supports max 24/48. I have a 24/96 album on my local LMS772 running on a squeezeplug (seagate dockstar). I was expecting that LMS will convert the 24/96 to 24/48 for the Radio. However, when I try to play album on the Radio, the Radio just goes into Pause mode. Album is encoded in FLAC. Radio has no problems with playing FLACs under 24/48 served by LMS772. Any insights? Thanks, Leon travelfotografer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=48355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=97432 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
