Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simplified instructions for Squeezebox Radio Wi-Fi fix (wlanpoke)

2021-09-01 Thread P Nelson


POMdev wrote: 
> 
> 
> (For testing, which sounds advanced, if you want to retain or expand the
> script's logging capability, you could disable the script's
> RestartNetwork() function by adding "return" as the first line.)

For me, no testing that I would call advanced.  I wanted to turn off
wlanpoke to see if moving the Radio to a new area in my house has a
interference problem.

Thanks for the reply.  Adding this to my notes on SB Radios.

Paul



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simplified instructions for Squeezebox Radio Wi-Fi fix (wlanpoke)

2021-09-01 Thread te36


POMdev wrote: 
> Briefly: WiFi-6 and mesh are disrupting (incompatible with) the radio's
> WiFi chip firmware. For a history of the investigation into this issue,
> start 'here'
> (https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111663-Community-Build-Radio-Firmware=988206=1#post988206)
> and keep reading. Many pages.
> 
> The script does not fix the disruption issue. Instead, it restarts the
> wireless radio after a disruption has been detected, frequently quickly
> enough so that music that has been downloaded to the radio does not "run
> out" before the radio reconnects.
> 
> One alternative solution is to use Ethernet. However, this makes the
> radio non-portable. Another solution is to reduce or eliminate WiFi-6
> and/or mesh interference (good luck with the neighbors...). One day,
> WiFi-6 and mesh, which were supposed to be "compatible," may actually
> become so, and eliminate the issue.

Whow. Will read up on the thread.
So right now i have a Unifi Ap AC-Lite, but i already ordered to play
around a newer Nano. Any idea if i might improve my situation with the
radio by configuring them in a particular way ? No idea if / what i
could e.g. disable at 2.4 Ghz.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simplified instructions for Squeezebox Radio Wi-Fi fix (wlanpoke)

2021-09-01 Thread POMdev


te36 wrote: 
> This looks like a possible life saver for my radios, thanks a lot for
> this. But i would like to better understand what is really going on:
> - What is the root cause for the problem, e.g.: why do the radios loose
> wifi ? and not reconnect...

Briefly: WiFi=6 and mesh are confusing (incompatible with) the radio's
WiFi chip firmware. For a history of the investigation into this issue,
start 'here'
(https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?111663-Community-Build-Radio-Firmware=988206=1#post988206)
and keep reading. Many pages.

> - And what does wlanPoke do to fix this? - Are there alternative
> solutions ... 

The script does not fix the disruption issue. Instead, it restarts the
wireless radio after a disruption has been detected, frequently quickly
enough so that music that has been downloaded to the radio does not "run
out" before the radio reconnects.

One alternative solution is to use Ethernet. However, this makes the
radio non-portable. Another solution is to reduce or eliminate WiFi-6
and/or mesh interference (good luck with the neighbors...). One day,
WiFi-6 and mesh, which were supposed to be "compatible," may actually
become so, and eliminate the issue.



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simplified instructions for Squeezebox Radio Wi-Fi fix (wlanpoke)

2021-09-01 Thread POMdev


P Nelson wrote: 
> Is there a way to to turn off wlanpoke?  I want to turn it off for some
> testing.

Removing the rcS.local file and rebooting will restore your radio to
nearly its original state. You can still manually launch the script.

Besides that, depending on what you want to do, there are several other
ways to disable wlanpoke.

The first is to use the wlanpoke's kill app function. From an ssh prompt
(copy and paste):
/etc/wlanpoke/wlanpoke.sh -k
to exit the script. The script should exit and stay off until the next
reboot, or until you relaunch it.

If you want the script to not run at the next reboot, a quick way is to
rename the script so that it will be launched at boot, e.g.:
mv /etc/wlanpoke/wlanpoke.sh /etc/wlanpoke/wlanpoke.sh.disabled
You could instead rename the rcS.local file.

(For testing, which sounds advanced, if you want to retain or expand the
script's logging capability, you could disable the script's
RestartNetwork() function by adding "return" as the first line.)



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Simplified instructions for Squeezebox Radio Wi-Fi fix (wlanpoke)

2021-09-01 Thread te36


This looks like a possible life saver for my radios, thanks a lot for
this.
But i would like to better understand what is really going on:

- What is the root cause for the problem, e.g.: why do the radios loose
wifi ? and not reconnect. I can not even force the radio to reconnect
with the menu item of repair network. Just with reboot.
- And what does wlanPoke do to fix this ?
- Are there alternative solutions, e.g.: newer firmware for the radios?
I just see there is also community firmware.

I had this problem for many years. In one place i figured that the
problem was related to the hardware version, likely differnt wifi chips
? So i wired up the radios with the biggest issue.

Now i have the problem when i move a radio further away. Works well on
wifi in close proximity to the AP, but not in the next room.

So quite curious what the heck is going on...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio no longer powers on

2021-09-01 Thread isolli


And... we have a winner!

You were right to challenge my guess, that the power button was somehow
to blame. This was not the behavior you'd expect from a "soft-press"
button.
The charger was indeed faulty. Luckily, I had another 18V charger lying
around, and that did the trick. Cherry on the cake: the battery is
probably fine too.

I hadn't even bought my T9 Torx screwdriver yet. That's probably for the
best ;)

Thanks everyone for their suggestions. I have been consistently
impressed with the advice I've received here. 
Hopefully this thread can help someone else in the future...



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio no longer powers on

2021-09-01 Thread Redrum


@Ian -

The fact that you can hold the power button down and all is well, makes
no sense to me. The switch appears to be momentary, not maintain.

So after thinking about it, I thought of something unlikely, but maybe
possible. The power supplies tend to fail over time, but also, with the
booms and radios, the DC connector (in the radio) can become
intermittent, even non functional. Cleaning with deoxit has helped some,
replacing the jack others. I have a boom that sits in one place and
works, but if I move it, I have to "wiggle" the connector. It's on the
list to fix :)

So, maybe, when you "release" the power button you are physically
disturbing this connection? A related thought is that the power supply
is failing (supplying enough voltage, but not enough current as the
device demands more). I know nothing of the powerup sequence, but maybe
holding the button in allows the less than able supply to be enough?

Power supplies are cheap, about $10USD here in the states - amazon,
ebay

Jim



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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Squeezebox Radio no longer powers on

2021-09-01 Thread agbagb


isolli wrote: 
> Thanks for all the replies! Time for an update.
> 
> I removed the battery. It changed nothing to the problem I described.
> The battery might be dead, but the problem seems to be with the power
> button.
> 
> I am in the same situation as bstrulo: I recently took the radio out of
> storage, and the power button seems jammed. Unfortunately, I wasn't able
> to fix it like bstrulo did, by repeatedly pressing the button until it
> improved. 
> 
> Finally, I managed to pry the cover open. Unfortunately I don't have the
> right Torx screw (T9 apparently). This is still my best option :)
> 
> I can find radios for under $100 on eBay, but shipping to Europe and
> adds another $70 with customs. That's quite steep...

Here's a mechanical tinkerers thought.  If the Radio fully powers on
with the button held in, can you improvise something mechanical -
perhaps inside the case - that simply keeps it held in?  You will then
have soft power options via LMS or one of the LMS smartphone control
apps; if you don't need the battery, then you have a hard power option
via the power cord.  At the very least, you'd have a working radio until
you see a replacement for sale at a decent price.



LMS 8.2.1 - 1628023316 
Win10
Control: Web GUI; sometimes OrangeSqueeze on Android phones / pads

Machines / devices are in France, in two locations.
a) Livebox 4
Internal HDD (FLAC music; mp3 voice), LAN Desktop
3 x Touch - 2 wireless, 1 LAN. (7.8.0-r16754)
3 x SB Radios [2 wireless, 1 LAN] (7.7.3-r16676)
1 x Riva Arena (via Airplay LMS PlugIn)

b) Freebox
External SSD, WiFi Laptop
1 x Touch LAN (Firmware:7.8.0-r16754)
2 x SB Radios, Wireless (7.7.3-r16676)

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