Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
slartibartfast wrote: > The error seems to be a red herring. If I close the error message I can > see the file system. Enabling debug for net.http is extremely verbose. I > am not sure if it is worth spending too much time investigating this. It > is a minor annoyance and probably has always been there. Logging is always verbose - trick is to find a way to minimise the traffic. The issue seems like a minor but annoying niggle & difficult to identify. If it is battery associated - yet another potential level of complexity, I have no idea of what special measures are taken with the battery. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
slartibartfast wrote:
> The network icon colours changed at some point to give less info. Now
> blue no longer exists. There is no difference now between a WiFi or LMS
> issue.
If you want to restore blueness, and you're feeling brave, the attached
patch does it. (For me, anyway). E&OE.
Upload the attached patch file to your Radio, into the root user's home
directory. Name it -icon.patch-
Then save the existing -QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua- script, e.g. to
-QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua.original-, and apply the patch. Then check your
work, and restart the Radio. You can restore the saved version back if
things go wrong.
Here's a screen dump of the process as I undertook it:
Code:
# cd /usr/share/jive/applets/QVGAbaseSkin
# cp -p QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua.original
# patch <~/icon.patch
Check your handiwork:
# diff -u QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua.original QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua
--- QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua.original
+++ QVGAbaseSkinApplet.lua
@@ -2385,10 +2385,10 @@
img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_wireless_disabled.png"),
})
s.button_wireless_SERVERERROR = _uses(s._button_wireless, {
- img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_wireless_disabled.png"),
+ --img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_wireless_disabled.png"),
-- In 7.6, decision is to go with only red colored icons for
both network and server errors
-- leaving the old path here in case we decide that was a
mistake
- --img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_wireless_cantconnect.png"),
+ img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_wireless_cantconnect.png"),
})
s.button_wireless_NONE = _uses(s._button_wireless, {
img = false,
@@ -2401,10 +2401,10 @@
img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_ethernet_disabled.png"),
})
s.button_ethernet_SERVERERROR = _uses(s._button_wireless, {
- img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_ethernet_disabled.png"),
+ --img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_ethernet_disabled.png"),
-- In 7.6, decision is to go with only red colored icons for
both network and server errors
-- leaving the old path here in case we decide that was a
mistake
- -- img = _loadImage(self,
"Icons/icon_ethernet_cantconnect.png"),
+ img = _loadImage(self, "Icons/icon_ethernet_cantconnect.png"),
})
-- time
+---+
|Filename: icon.patch.txt |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32084|
+---+
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Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
bpa wrote: > "pwd" works OK for me after ssh'ing into a Touch. > > Latest log file is in /var/log/messages - there is also > /var/log/messages.0 which I think is created from messages about every > 10 mins.The error seems to be a red herring. If I close the error message I > can see the file system. Enabling debug for net.http is extremely verbose. I am not sure if it is worth spending too much time investigating this. It is a minor annoyance and probably has always been there. Maybe the community Radio firmware will fix it [emoji3] Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
slartibartfast wrote: > I logged into the Radio using Putty successfully but thought it would be > easier to find the log file with WinSCP. When I try to connect I get an > error message > > Error getting name of current remote directory > Command 'pwd' > failed with return code 0 and error message > -sh: groups: not found. "pwd" works OK for me after ssh'ing into a Touch. Latest log file is in /var/log/messages - there is also /var/log/messages.0 which I think is created from messages about every 10 mins. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
bpa wrote: > Don't think you can do all. IIRC Problem is that there is limited space > for log file (kept in RAM) and while usually I'd sit on tail of the log > after ssh'ing into Radio - if there is a network problem then link will > go down and ssh will be disconnected. Similarly if you redirect the log > over the net. > > To start, there are 4 network log options - http, slimproto, socket and > thread. Logging really means using DEBUG as I think INFO is minimal. > > If the stream is played direct then net.http should be logged as Radio > will do a http/GET to play the stream. So enable net.http - verify what > a good seesion looks like to make sure it logs the HTTP GET. You want > to look to see if there are two HTTP GETs or one with a break making > your problem. Even if not played direct - see what net.http does in a > good connection (http/GET is made to LMS) and if minimal then enable for > testing. > > net.slimproto is good to monitor "life" in the player (I.e. buffer > fullness) but I think don't monitor initially - you can probably do > better by enabling network.protocol.slimproto logging on LMS side but > make only one player connected to LMS - otherwise too much data logged. > > net.socket - there'll be a lot of sockets in use but it will probably > show whether network connection. I'd enable logging and but first see > if it captures network connection status changing (if using radio, block > signal with maybe tinfoil or large metal cooking pot). > > net.thread - not sure but I think it is too low level.I logged into the Radio > using Putty successfully but thought it would be easier to find the log file with WinSCP. When I try to connect I get an error message Error getting name of current remote directory Command 'pwd' failed with return code 0 and error message -sh: groups: not found. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
slartibartfast wrote: > I tried a different station this morning and same result, it may have > been longer than 30 seconds but playback halts and restarts when the > network recovers. > I had a look at the logging options and quite a few are concerned with > network. Any idea which one to turn on? All of them? Don't think you can do all. IIRC Problem is that there is limited space for log file (kept in RAM) and while usually I'd sit on tail of the log after ssh'ing into Radio - if there is a network problem then link will go down and ssh will be disconnected. Similarly if you redirect the log over the net. To start, there are 4 network log options - http, slimproto, socket and thread. Logging really means using DEBUG as I think INFO is minimal. If the stream is played direct then net.http should be logged as Radio will do a http/GET to play the stream. So enable net.http - verify what a good seesion looks like to make sure it logs the HTTP GET. You want to look to see if there are two HTTP GETs or one with a break making your problem. Even if not played direct - see what net.http does in a good connection (http/GET is made to LMS) and if minimal then enable for testing. net.slimproto is good to monitor "life" in the player (I.e. buffer fullness) but I think don't monitor initially - you can probably do better by enabling network.protocol.slimproto logging on LMS side but make only one player connected to LMS - otherwise too much data logged. net.socket - there'll be a lot of sockets in use but it will probably show whether network connection. I'd enable logging and but first see if it captures network connection status changing (if using radio, block signal with maybe tinfoil or large metal cooking pot). net.thread - not sure but I think it is too low level. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
Redrum wrote: > I don't have a solution but...I have seen something similar...but only > when the radio is on battery power. I can't recall ever seeing this on > adaptor power. > > I will often listen to podcasts on a radio which is synced with a touch. > I carry the radio into a room I am going to be working in and sometimes > plug it in, sometimes not. I have experienced, occasionally, and only > when the radio is on battery power, the podcasts will stop, and either > restart a short time later, or I will have to restart them. I have > noticed the white wifi symbol on the radio, and if it turns red, the > podcast restarts. I remembering wondering if my wifi dropped out. But, > once when it was stuck white I checked with my phone and the wifi was > fine. > > But, my experiences with podcast control are not that great. I try to > pause, resume doesn't work and I have to start over, I try to "start > from last position" and it starts over from the beginning, etc, etc. so > I always just chalked this stopping to my other struggles with > podcasts. > > This radio has the flawed "you have to wiggle it" adaptor jack. I > wondering if it might have something to do with the radio > adaptor/battery switching circuitry? Just a stab in the dark. > > JimThis is also on battery. It only happens once though and after that is totally fine. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
I don't have a solution but...I have seen something similar...but only when the radio is on battery power. I can't recall ever seeing this on adaptor power. I will often listen to podcasts on a radio which is synced with a touch. I carry the radio into a room I am going to be working in and sometimes plug it in, sometimes not. I have experienced, occasionally, and only when the radio is on battery power, the podcasts will stop, and either restart a short time later, or I will have to restart them. I have noticed the white wifi symbol on the radio, and if it turns red, the podcast restarts. I remembering wondering if my wifi dropped out. But, once when it was stuck white I checked with my phone and the wifi was fine. But, my experiences with podcast control are not that great. I try to pause, resume doesn't work and I have to start over, I try to "start from last position" and it starts over from the beginning, etc, etc. so I always just chalked this stopping to my other struggles with podcasts. This radio has the flawed "you have to wiggle it" adaptor jack. I wondering if it might have something to do with the radio adaptor/battery switching circuitry? Just a stab in the dark. Jim Redrum's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=33806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
bpa wrote: > My two thoughts. > 1. If it is the same station and playing direct, then audio maybe left > in buffer and so immediately played but then new connection is needed to > station > 2. Some problem related to initial buffering (i.e. Radio gets enough > data to start playing but has a problem once playing has started) - try > increasing Network/Radio Station Buffer Seconds to minutes to see if > 15-30 secs is affected.I tried a different station this morning and same > result, it may have been longer than 30 seconds but playback halts and restarts when the network recovers. I had a look at the logging options and quite a few are concerned with network. Any idea which one to turn on? All of them? Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
mvordeme wrote: > Do you have a WiFi mesh with multiple repeaters / access points? Maybe > the radio gets pushed to a closer access point when it actually starts > to transmit and receive data.No just standard router. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
Do you have a WiFi mesh with multiple repeaters / access points? Maybe the radio gets pushed to a closer access point when it actually starts to transmit and receive data. scaleo home server 2105 | logitech media server 8.0.0 | server power control 20120716.103808 | transporter & duet & touch & boom & radio | rotel rc-995 & rmb-100 | nubert nuvero 140 mvordeme's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22892 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
slartibartfast wrote: > The network icon colours changed at some point to give less info. Now > blue no longer exists. There is no difference now between a WiFi or LMS > issue. OK - don't use radio much except for testing. Enabling logging for network stuff on Radio might be a starting point. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
bpa wrote: > I can no longer find wiki page with the meaning of the colours. White, > Blue, Red ? > > IIRC 3 states > - no network > - network OK but no connection to LMS > - All good (white) > > I think netweork status displayed remains unchanged until action is > requested. If no network activity for a while then maybe "power save > mode" by router and so when Radio tries to connect after a button push > - network fail but then router "wakes" up.The network icon colours changed at > some point to give less info. Now blue no longer exists. There is no difference now between a WiFi or LMS issue. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
slartibartfast wrote: > I see the same issue when nothing is playing though. I would expect the > network icon to be red at turn on then change to white when the > connection to WiFi is achieved, but it is white at turn on and seems to > turn red if I touch any buttons. I can no longer find wiki page with the meaning of the colours. White, Blue, Red ? IIRC 3 states - no network - network OK but no connection to LMS - All good (white) I think netweork status displayed remains unchanged until action is requested. If no network activity for a while then maybe "power save mode" by router and so when Radio tries to connect after a button push - network fail but then router "wakes" up. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
bpa wrote: > My two thoughts. > 1. If it is the same station and playing direct, then audio maybe left > in buffer and so immediately played but then new connection is needed to > station > 2. Some problem related to initial buffering (i.e. Radio gets enough > data to start playing but has a problem once playing has started) - try > increasing Network/Radio Station Buffer Seconds to minutes to see if > 15-30 secs is affected. I see the same issue when nothing is playing though. I would expect the network icon to be red at turn on then change to white when the connection to WiFi is achieved, but it is white at turn on and seems to turn red if I touch any buttons. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
slartibartfast wrote: > Sorry I didn't see your reply until just now. It probably was the last > station but started by pushing the preset button. > New info from this morning. I turned on the Radio and saw that the > network icon was white. I left it for a while to see if it would turn > red on its own and it didn't. When I pressed the Home button on the > Radio the icon turned red then back to white after around 15 seconds. My two thoughts. 1. If it is the same station and playing direct, then audio maybe left in buffer and so immediately played but then new connection is needed to station 2. Some problem related to initial buffering (i.e. Radio gets enough data to start playing but has a problem once playing has started) - try increasing Network/Radio Station Buffer Seconds to minutes to see if 15-30 secs is affected. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
bpa wrote: > When you play the radio station - is this a new station or starting to > play the last stationSorry I didn't see your reply until just now. It > probably was the last station but started by pushing the preset button. New info from this morning. I turned on the Radio and saw that the network icon was white. I left it for a while to see if it would turn red on its own and it didn't. When I pressed the Home button on the Radio the icon turned red then back to white after around 15 seconds. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
Re: [SlimDevices: Radio] Strange network/WiFi issue
When you play the radio station - is this a new station or starting to play the last station bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=113140 ___ Radio mailing list Radio@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/radio
