Re: Re[2]: [Rantau-Net] Semua Wanita (memang) Ternyata Sama
A man came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's Apostle! Who is more entitled to be treated with the best companionship by me?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man said. "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man further said, "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your mother." The man asked for the fourth time, "Who is next?" The Prophet said, "Your father." Baa kok Hadist di ateh maagiah kautamoan ka Mandeh tigo kali labiah no dari ka Abak. Kalau dipikia-pikia itu kan indak adia. Apo nan sabana no nan takilek di hadist diateh tu tu sanak? Kudian kalau dikaikkan ka zaman kini ko dimano induak-induak mintak "merdeka". Iko NAN PARTAMU. NAN KADUO, kalau di caliak tanggapan dari kaum padusi jo topik curito ko sarato topik nan saroman sabalunno, namapak diambo (mudah-mudahan ambo nan salah) ajaran ugamo islam tu lah tacicia dialahan dek faham barat jahilliyyah tu. Mangkonyo kiniko panyakik "rumah patah" lah samakin manjadi-jadi. Dek karano tunggak utamo rumah tu lah ndak namuah lai manjunjuang paran lai, sahinggo kudo-kudo patah, kasau baceceran, atok pun ikuik batabangan. Bapetai-petailah kito jadi no. Iko mungkin lah tando-tando nagari ka kiamaik mungkin goh. Salam, dn > > Assalamu'alaikum wr.wb., > > Ah, anda kayaknya keliru anak muda. Banyak ayat-ayat al Quran yang > memberi ancaman karena Allah memang menyuruh umat manusia untuk > memikirkannya, menelaahnya, memahaminya, mengimaninya. Namun demikian > kebanyakan manusia, hatta dia Islam, cenderung mau mengambil yang > enak-enak saja, mendengar yang indah-indah saja. > > Saya tidak ingin ikut-ikutan berpolemik. Bacalah al Qur'an dan coba > "hinokkan" bagian-bagian yang berupa ancaman Allah. Meski sekali lagi > banyak sekali manusia tidak "takut". > > Saya ikut-ikutan karena merasa ajang ini adalah tempat saling > mengingatkan. > > Wassalam, > > > Lembang Alam > > > > __ Reply Separator _ > Subject: RE: [Rantau-Net] Semua Wanita (memang) Ternyata Sama > Author: [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Internet > Date:5/11/00 11:04 AM > > > Assalamu 'alaikum wr wb. > > Menarik untuk menyimak perdebatan antaro Uni Evi jo Pak Khairi Yusuf > > Mohon maaf jika Ambo mengatakan bahwa Ambo sangat tidak setuju dengan Pak > Khairi Yusuf. Menurut Ambo Pak Khairi Yusuf sudah melewati batasan Pak > Khairi Yusuf sebagai manusia, yang seakan-akan memiliki hak prerogatif untuk > menjatuhkan "vonis" dengan menggunokan Al-Quran terhadap pendapek Evi ... > Jika itu kebenaran yang diyakini Evi, kita hormati sajalah .. jangan dihajar > dengan vonis yang merefleksikan tafsiran kita lah yang paling benar ... > > Apakah jika ado wanita yang menggunakan kelebihan yang dikaruniakan Allah > untuk menjadi menteri atau presiden, maka dia tidak tahu bahwa dia akan > masuk neraka ? > > Apakah wanita yang tidak takut mengejar mimpi-mimpi (yang baik menurut > tafsiran mereka), adalah wanita yang tidak tahu bahwa mereka bakal masuk > neraka ? > > Maaf Pak Khairi Yusuf, you've gone too far Biarlah Evi berpendapat > demikian, dan kita hormati pendapatnya. Dan saya kira semua Dunsanak pun > akan menghormati pendapat Pak Khairi sebagai kebenaran yang Pak Khairi > yakini Demikian pula dengan pendapat saya ... Siapa yang benar, biarlah > Allah SWT yang memutuskannya, karena Allah SWT yang maha adil dan bijaksana. > > Menurut saya, sedikitpun tidak layak kita mengatakan kafir atau memvonis > masuk neraka terhadap mereka yang mengucapkan 2 kalimah syahadat apapun > aliran pemikiran mereka. Biarlah vonis kafir atau masuk neraka itu hak > prerogatif Allah SWT ... > > Ini adolah pendapat saya silakan dibantah atau tidak disetujui > karena kebenaran itu bukan lahir dari yang membantah ... melainkan dari Sang > Pencipta ... kalau pendapat saya salah, setidaknya saya sudah memiliki > pendirian dengan maksud baik > > Wassalam > ~Riri LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
Re: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
Kalau mamasyarakaikkan jilbab ko manuruik ambo, rancak kito contoh Aceh. Di Aceh ado razia bagai. Kalau padusi kalua rumah indak batutuik kapalo, alamaik ka dikuduang abuak no. Tapi iyo ganjia-ganjia lo nampak diambo disiko. Ano lai pakai jilbab, tapi ano pakai sarawa panjang ketat, baju langan panjang ketat, hinggo tasumbua juo nan paralu tasumbua. Aaa untuak-a tu guno no kapalo ditutuik tapi di bawah tasumbua je. Baa kok ndak kagoyang mak taci jo ano jano den. Goyang taruh. Salam, dn - Original Message - From: Z Chaniago <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:12 PM Subject: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim > Assalamu'alaikum WW > > Untuak soal jilbab bialah ambo cubo mamulai..., > > Untuak saak kini ambo maliek lah mulai batambah banyak Kaum Muslimah nan ba > jilbab, apokoh iko tren atau apo ...ambo indak bisa manjawab... > dek iko hanyo nan nampak > > Tetapi satu hal nan paralu di paratikan juo baraso tantang ba jilbab iko > harus di liek dulu apo nan manjadi dasarnyo dek urang... > Ado nan iyo bana dari dalam... > Ado nan ikut-ikutan > Ado nan dek sikola di sikola agamo > Ado nan tapaso > > Nah sasudah itu, baa bantuak jilbabnyo...ado nan bajilbab gadang > ado nan bajilbab tapi dibawahnyo mamakai rok panjang... > ado nan jilbab modern (di bawahnyo pakai celana panjang)... > ado pulo pakai songkoktaruih salendang... > dan nan mamakai salendang ala Benazir Bhutto atau ala Mbak Tutut... > malah ado nan transaparan... > > Tetapi urang bajilbab atau indak itu indak bisa dijadikan dasar > panilaian soal hubungannyo dengan nan Maha Kuasa Allah SWT..., sahinggo > pertanyaan SAnak Mulyadi ka bakeh Uni Evi sarato Uni Rita rasonyo kurang > pado tampeknyo > Soalnyo ambo punyo contoh kasus...wakatu kuliah ambo punyo kawan padusi nan > pakai jilbabnamun parangai-nyo itu jauah dari atribut jilbabnyo , malah > labiah pulo dari kawan padusi umumnyo.., lah dicubo maagiah tauindak > jo barubah ...sahinggo kadang kami sampai tega mangecekkan jaleh bana > indak bajilbab jaleh pulo nan kadikecekkan ka bakeh inyo... > Tetapi ado pulo kawan surang lai parangai malah elok bana...hanyo alun > pakai jilbab > > Sekedar paumpan bola... > > Wassalam > > Z Chaniago - Palai Rinuak > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id > Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: > http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 > = > WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id > = > Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email > Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda > > Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email > Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda > = > WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet > adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA > = > LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
RE: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
Kalau didaerah Aceh iyo sabana istimewa pado daerah nan lain, banyak ganjia no. Kok musajik sabana malimpah kiri-kanan jalan, mulai lapeh dari Sumut sampai kakampuang-kampuang. Tapi indak banyak jamaah nan shalat di tiok wakatu masuak, apo lai sajak ado kerusahan belakangan nangko, iyo tantu batambah langang musajik. Barangkali nan batambah rami tukang mintak sidakah, takah nan pernah ambo caliak di Locksemawe tempo hari. Baa tu sanak DN, apo lai juo kini takah itu ndak ??? Ma'af tairiang salam, Erizal Syamsir -Original Message- From: Dedi N. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 3:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim Kalau mamasyarakaikkan jilbab ko manuruik ambo, rancak kito contoh Aceh. Di Aceh ado razia bagai. Kalau padusi kalua rumah indak batutuik kapalo, alamaik ka dikuduang abuak no. Tapi iyo ganjia-ganjia lo nampak diambo disiko. Ano lai pakai jilbab, tapi ano pakai sarawa panjang ketat, baju langan panjang ketat, hinggo tasumbua juo nan paralu tasumbua. Aaa untuak-a tu guno no kapalo ditutuik tapi di bawah tasumbua je. Baa kok ndak kagoyang mak taci jo ano jano den. Goyang taruh. Salam, dn LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
[Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
Assalamu'alaikum WW Untuak soal jilbab bialah ambo cubo mamulai..., Untuak saak kini ambo maliek lah mulai batambah banyak Kaum Muslimah nan ba jilbab, apokoh iko tren atau apo ...ambo indak bisa manjawab... dek iko hanyo nan nampak Tetapi satu hal nan paralu di paratikan juo baraso tantang ba jilbab iko harus di liek dulu apo nan manjadi dasarnyo dek urang... Ado nan iyo bana dari dalam... Ado nan ikut-ikutan Ado nan dek sikola di sikola agamo Ado nan tapaso Nah sasudah itu, baa bantuak jilbabnyo...ado nan bajilbab gadang ado nan bajilbab tapi dibawahnyo mamakai rok panjang... ado nan jilbab modern (di bawahnyo pakai celana panjang)... ado pulo pakai songkoktaruih salendang... dan nan mamakai salendang ala Benazir Bhutto atau ala Mbak Tutut... malah ado nan transaparan... Tetapi urang bajilbab atau indak itu indak bisa dijadikan dasar panilaian soal hubungannyo dengan nan Maha Kuasa Allah SWT..., sahinggo pertanyaan SAnak Mulyadi ka bakeh Uni Evi sarato Uni Rita rasonyo kurang pado tampeknyo Soalnyo ambo punyo contoh kasus...wakatu kuliah ambo punyo kawan padusi nan pakai jilbabnamun parangai-nyo itu jauah dari atribut jilbabnyo , malah labiah pulo dari kawan padusi umumnyo.., lah dicubo maagiah tauindak jo barubah ...sahinggo kadang kami sampai tega mangecekkan jaleh bana indak bajilbab jaleh pulo nan kadikecekkan ka bakeh inyo... Tetapi ado pulo kawan surang lai parangai malah elok bana...hanyo alun pakai jilbab Sekedar paumpan bola... Wassalam Z Chaniago - Palai Rinuak Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
RE: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
heheh uda...uda "samo sajo" Jan pertanyaan di jawab dengan pertanyaan, kalau baitu ko ado parumpamaan ciek lai .. mulai kini awak marokok baliak aah marokok ndak marokok samo-sajo ka mati juo nantinya, ( bukan baitu ) itu adalah sebuah pelarian ma uda.sebuah alasan yg di buat-buat. Maaf kalau bukan pado tampeknyo, tapi itu adalah suatu kilas balik dari saya ka uni2 tsb. mungkin bisua' awak pai kapasa pakai sarawa "kotok" sajoalah, karano banyak urang laki2 kini ko yg mamaki jenggot labek ba kupiah (khususnya para mentri) tingkah lakunya ...".." wassalam > -- > From: Z Chaniago[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 Mei 2000 14:12 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim > > Assalamu'alaikum WW > > Untuak soal jilbab bialah ambo cubo mamulai..., > > Untuak saak kini ambo maliek lah mulai batambah banyak Kaum Muslimah nan > ba > jilbab, apokoh iko tren atau apo ...ambo indak bisa manjawab... > dek iko hanyo nan nampak > > Tetapi satu hal nan paralu di paratikan juo baraso tantang ba jilbab iko > harus di liek dulu apo nan manjadi dasarnyo dek urang... > Ado nan iyo bana dari dalam... > Ado nan ikut-ikutan > Ado nan dek sikola di sikola agamo > Ado nan tapaso > > Nah sasudah itu, baa bantuak jilbabnyo...ado nan bajilbab gadang > ado nan bajilbab tapi dibawahnyo mamakai rok panjang... > ado nan jilbab modern (di bawahnyo pakai celana panjang)... > ado pulo pakai songkoktaruih salendang... > dan nan mamakai salendang ala Benazir Bhutto atau ala Mbak Tutut... > malah ado nan transaparan... > > Tetapi urang bajilbab atau indak itu indak bisa dijadikan dasar > panilaian soal hubungannyo dengan nan Maha Kuasa Allah SWT..., sahinggo > pertanyaan SAnak Mulyadi ka bakeh Uni Evi sarato Uni Rita rasonyo kurang > pado tampeknyo > Soalnyo ambo punyo contoh kasus...wakatu kuliah ambo punyo kawan padusi > nan > pakai jilbabnamun parangai-nyo itu jauah dari atribut jilbabnyo , > malah > labiah pulo dari kawan padusi umumnyo.., lah dicubo maagiah > tauindak > jo barubah ...sahinggo kadang kami sampai tega mangecekkan jaleh bana > indak bajilbab jaleh pulo nan kadikecekkan ka bakeh inyo... > Tetapi ado pulo kawan surang lai parangai malah elok bana...hanyo alun > > pakai jilbab > > Sekedar paumpan bola... > > Wassalam > > Z Chaniago - Palai Rinuak > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id > Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: > http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 > = > WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id > = > Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email > Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda > > Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email > Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda > = > WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet > adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA > = > LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
RE: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
Manyalek ambo ciek, lah panek pulo mancangkuang di suduik lapau mah. Ado pulo awak nan lai rajin sumbayang, bakatubah di musajik tapi korupsi jalan taruih.. apokoh labiah rancak inyo baranti sumbayang.. kan nan salah tatap tindakan korupsi nyo itu, indak sumbayangnyo. Bahkan mungkin sumbayangnyo nan paralu dibenahi. Kalau dunsanak padusi awak bajilbab tapi parangainyo naudzubilan mindzalik, tantu nan salah bukan pakaian jilbabnyo..tapi parangainyo... ijan jilbab disalahkan. Kasus lain, dunsanak awak ko indak bajilbab tapi parangainyo islami,, di sisi parangai inyo lah batua..meskipun indak marupokan refleksi dari perilaku bapakaiannyo (mungkin dek faktor lain, norma susila, hukum, pendidikan) iko bola dan diumpankan pak Zet.. tapi inyo alun cukuik mamanuhi syaraik dari segi berpakaian nan Islami, dan relatif alun terlalu aman dari gangguan (gunjingan, mato laki-laki dll. mis). Meskipun walaupun pakai jilbab alun tantu juo salamaik dari gunjingan dan goda'an lai (contohnyo awak tau surang), tapi setidaknyo dapek relatif diminimalisir. Mungkin samo jo pertanyaan apokoh kalau awak sudah mandi, atau baranang masih paralu bauduak ka sumbayang? Jadi kalau masalah iko dipalegakan iyo rumik ko mah..samo pula jo debat antaro pak Ustadz Khairi jo ni Evi (plus ni Rita) tantang posisi wanita. Apo lai kalau pihak nan terlibat debat mamakai paradigma nan balain (Al Qur'an dan Hadis versus logika dan 'kecerdasan' atau 'kata hati' et cetera). Dalam manjaweknyo ambo satuju ka pak Ustadz Khairi (plus Lembang, Mulyadi nan mungkin kebetulan sadonyo laki-laki..he..he..) rancak awak babaliak ka pangka. Takuik awak salah kakok malantiangkan, tanpa manutuik jalan ka interpretasi pribadi.. Untuak uni-uni jan berang pulo ka ambo ha..ha... Nevertheless, debat iko sabana mambari 'pencerahan' ka ambo pribadi, saindaknyo dapek maliek 'kondisi lapangan' nan tajadi kiniko (dalam representasi nan tantu sajo sangek terbatas). Hanyo sayang indak ado uni-uni atau ibuk-ibuk nan mewakili kelompok 'konservatif' atau 'fundamentalis', kalau ado tantu tambah langkok perbendaharaan kito basamo. Parmato Alam >From: MULYADI > >heheh >uda...uda "samo sajo" >Jan pertanyaan di jawab dengan pertanyaan, >kalau baitu ko ado parumpamaan ciek lai .. >mulai kini awak marokok baliak aah >marokok ndak marokok samo-sajo ka mati juo nantinya, ( bukan baitu ) itu >adalah sebuah pelarian ma uda.sebuah alasan yg di buat-buat. >Maaf kalau bukan pado tampeknyo, tapi itu adalah suatu kilas balik dari >saya >ka uni2 tsb. >mungkin bisua' awak pai kapasa pakai sarawa "kotok" sajoalah, karano banyak >urang laki2 kini ko yg mamaki jenggot labek ba kupiah (khususnya para >mentri) tingkah lakunya ...".." > > From: Z Chaniago[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Assalamu'alaikum WW > > > > Untuak soal jilbab bialah ambo cubo mamulai..., > > > > Untuak saak kini ambo maliek lah mulai batambah banyak Kaum Muslimah nan > > ba > > jilbab, apokoh iko tren atau apo ...ambo indak bisa manjawab... > > dek iko hanyo nan nampak > > > > Tetapi satu hal nan paralu di paratikan juo baraso tantang ba jilbab iko > > harus di liek dulu apo nan manjadi dasarnyo dek urang... > > Ado nan iyo bana dari dalam... > > Ado nan ikut-ikutan > > Ado nan dek sikola di sikola agamo > > Ado nan tapaso > > > > Nah sasudah itu, baa bantuak jilbabnyo...ado nan bajilbab gadang > > ado nan bajilbab tapi dibawahnyo mamakai rok panjang... > > ado nan jilbab modern (di bawahnyo pakai celana panjang)... > > ado pulo pakai songkoktaruih salendang... > > dan nan mamakai salendang ala Benazir Bhutto atau ala Mbak Tutut... > > malah ado nan transaparan... > > > > Tetapi urang bajilbab atau indak itu indak bisa dijadikan dasar > > panilaian soal hubungannyo dengan nan Maha Kuasa Allah SWT..., sahinggo > > pertanyaan SAnak Mulyadi ka bakeh Uni Evi sarato Uni Rita rasonyo kurang > > pado tampeknyo > > Soalnyo ambo punyo contoh kasus...wakatu kuliah ambo punyo kawan padusi > > nan > > pakai jilbabnamun parangai-nyo itu jauah dari atribut jilbabnyo , > > malah > > labiah pulo dari kawan padusi umumnyo.., lah dicubo maagiah > > tauindak > > jo barubah ...sahinggo kadang kami sampai tega mangecekkan jaleh >bana > > indak bajilbab jaleh pulo nan kadikecekkan ka bakeh inyo... > > Tetapi ado pulo kawan surang lai parangai malah elok bana...hanyo >alun > > > > pakai jilbab > > > > Sekedar paumpan bola... > > > > Wassalam > > > > Z Chaniago - Palai Rinuak > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar Ra
[Rantau-Net] Letter from prison
Dunsanak, iko ciek lai kasus muslimah nan paralu kita prihatinkan basamo. >http://www.inminds.com/hijab-ban/nurcihan.html Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com Title: Innovative Minds FREE Subscription to our NEWSLETTER just enter your email address subscribe unsubscribe View Previous Issues Letter from Prison: 17 year old Muslimah facing death for Hijab Sister Huda Kaya and her three daughters were arrested with fifty others protesting the ban on hijab (islamic headscarf) in Ynonu University, Turkey. The prosecutor is demanding the death penalty for them. The trial adjourned on 22 June 1999. We have a new letter from Sister Nurcihan Saatcioglu, daughter of Huda Kaya, now aged 17 currently on trial facing the death penalty. It was sent from her prison in Malatya. The english translation isn't brilliant but still understandable: THE LETTER OF NURCIHAN SAATCIOGLU 08-07-1999 THURSDAY TO ISLAMIC HUMAN RIGHTS COMISSION In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful Elhamdulillah and salam to His Honourable Prophet Muhammed, our lovely leader, our lovely guide. Salam to Honourable Prophet Muhammed (s)'s followers, the momineen resisting against oppression and the mmomineen whose hearts are beating with us, sharing our pains. My lovely sisters and brothers, It doesn't matter how far away you are as we feel our hearts beating as one and as we feel you are our brothers and sisters. How happy we are, that we have a Holy Dava'ah. It is so holy that we can resist against all the forces of infidels and munafiqeen. Elhamdulillah. Elhamdulillah for thousands of times. After the arrest of my mother, my sister Intisar, me and my sister Nurulhak on 21 May 1999, as I was going out of the classroom a final look to all my class mates was glanced by me. At that time all my classmates and the teacher in that class could do nothing for me. They were wondering what I had lived through, the first time I was arrested. And now I have one more experience to tell them. For the last time I was going to the classroom to take my bag. I saw that my friends from other classes were also very much surprised. Some of them were trying not to leave me. And the others and my teacher were trying to share my emotions while I was trying to calm them. For the last term of our school life we are going to be away from our class and the teachers and our classmates. But we feel and know that it was worth it, and we are ready for it. And we all know that one day we are going to face that four walls, the jails We are not going to graduate. All we want is to get Allah's pleasure. So we say Elhamdulillah that we are here, because we know that the only thing that worth is to get His pleasure. So it doesn't really matter whether we graduate from school, because for us it is important to take our graduation licences through Allah's pleasure. It is important for us to see the Allah's sign in our graduation licences . It is very important for us that our graduation licences be prepared for that Big Day on Allah's side. Allah is enough for us as a best friend... Below is the "OATH of FREEDOM" that I read out in the headscarf demonstrations on 30 04 1999 Friday in front of the Governor's Building. OATH OF FREEDOM We were born freely We will live freely and when death comes to us We will die freely Because we have written "Jihad" on our foreheads We put the struggle in the beginning of our prayers, in every morning. "For a free country" "For a free school" "For our honour" "For our identity" Giving no concession We'll resist, RESIST !!! We'll WIN !!! We have SWORN !!! Be our witness, Allah !!! Be our witness, Allah !!! Be our witness, Allah !!! If one day I get the death penalty, I am going to repeat the same oath. I am going to read the "Oath of Freedom" again. "And whoever takes Allah and His apostle and those who believe for a guardian, then surely the party of Allah are they that shall be triumphant." (Maidah-56/ Holy Qur'an). My Lord be our friend and assistance. WITH SALAM AND PRAYERS Nurcihan Saatcioglu E-Type Prison Malatya Turkey Campaign Index
Re[1]: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
Bismillaahir rahmaanir rahiim Rang Lapau kasadono nan hambo sayangi. Kok buliah, hambo manyololah saketek soal Jilbab iko. At 07:12 2000-05-12 +, you wrote: >Assalamu'alaikum WW > >Untuak soal jilbab bialah ambo cubo mamulai..., > >Untuak saak kini ambo maliek lah mulai batambah banyak Kaum Muslimah nan ba >jilbab, apokoh iko tren atau apo ...ambo indak bisa manjawab... >dek iko hanyo nan nampak > Pudin: Sanak hambo nan suko "palai rinuak", kok memang tren-nyo kini, baruntuang awak tu. Jadi indak paralu manyuruah-manyuruah ka induak-induak, nan biasonyo manjawek "ah, angek bajilbab tu" kutiko awak himbau inyo manutuik auratnyo. >Tetapi satu hal nan paralu di paratikan juo baraso tantang ba jilbab iko >harus di liek dulu apo nan manjadi dasarnyo dek urang... >Ado nan iyo bana dari dalam... >Ado nan ikut-ikutan >Ado nan dek sikola di sikola agamo >Ado nan tapaso > >Nah sasudah itu, baa bantuak jilbabnyo...ado nan bajilbab gadang >ado nan bajilbab tapi dibawahnyo mamakai rok panjang... >ado nan jilbab modern (di bawahnyo pakai celana panjang)... >ado pulo pakai songkoktaruih salendang... >dan nan mamakai salendang ala Benazir Bhutto atau ala Mbak Tutut... >malah ado nan transaparan... > Pudin: Sanak Palai Rinuak, tak usahlah awak pusiangkan bana apo motif induak-induak tu bajilbab. Kok masih dalam tahap "introduction how to close aurat", bialah salah-salah saketek. Tapi dalam wakatu nan bajalan, andaknyo kito haruslah maagiah tau ba'a nan sabanano menutuik aurat tu. Marilah awak cubo menerapkan "continues improvement" dulu jan langsuang awak vonis "indak ado gunono" baitu. Dulu bini nan hambo cintoi tu indak namuah juga mamakai jilbab untuak manutuik auratnya. Sampai hambo malu juo ka kawan-kawan "ba'a tu lakinya dakek ka masajik tapi binino indak namuah manutuik aurat". Hambo mulai bado'a ka tuhan hamba satu-satunyo yaitu Allah di malam-malam nan tanang bana. Sampai-sampai tacucue aiemato hambo minta-mintak dibukakan hati bini hambo untuk dapat manarimo bimbingan Allah dengan mudah. E-eh, barisuaknyo ruponya inyo pai ka pasa dibalinyo kain dan dibueknyo jilbab nan inyo suko. "Alhamdulillahir rabbil alamiin" kecek hambo di hati. Kiniko hambo lah sanang, bini hambo itu alah sanang dan mangarati manga harus manutuik aurat cukuik-cukuik. Nah kini ko hambo maajak rang lapau kasadono tarutamo untuk nan "suami-suami" marilah awak mulai berdakwah untuk bini-bini awak sahinggo inyo memakai jilbab dan manutuik auratnyo cukuik-cukuik. Ba'a kok awak programkan salamo 3(tigo) bulan mulai hari kini ? Untuak gadih-gadih nan ado di lapao ko kok namuah sarato, yo elok bana. Hambo do'akan untuk kalian : "semoga menjadi hamba Allah yang santiang taatnyo hingga menjadi hamba Allah yang paling disayangi Allah dan makhluk-Nya". >Tetapi urang bajilbab atau indak itu indak bisa dijadikan dasar >panilaian soal hubungannyo dengan nan Maha Kuasa Allah SWT..., sahinggo >pertanyaan SAnak Mulyadi ka bakeh Uni Evi sarato Uni Rita rasonyo kurang >pado tampeknyo >Soalnyo ambo punyo contoh kasus...wakatu kuliah ambo punyo kawan padusi nan >pakai jilbabnamun parangai-nyo itu jauah dari atribut jilbabnyo , malah >labiah pulo dari kawan padusi umumnyo.., lah dicubo maagiah tauindak >jo barubah ...sahinggo kadang kami sampai tega mangecekkan jaleh bana >indak bajilbab jaleh pulo nan kadikecekkan ka bakeh inyo... >Tetapi ado pulo kawan surang lai parangai malah elok bana...hanyo alun >pakai jilbab > Pudin: Hop, hop, jan ditaruihkan dulu ! Jan awak campua aduakkan antaro nan haq dan nan bathil. Nan bajilbab itu adalah "HAQ" sadangkan nan parangai buruak tu adolah "BATHIL". Cubolah awak pisahkan ciek-ciek. Bajilbab jo baparangai buruak itu duo pakaro nan indak buliah awak samokan. Untuanglah inyo bajilbab. Kok alun mungkin inyo labiah jahek dari nan itu. Ba'a baitu ? Saketu dululah komen dari hambo soal jilbab iko. Maafkan hambo yo kok ado nan indak masuak di aka. Assalamun alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Syaifuddin Ma'rifatullah - Aceh. LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
[Rantau-Net] Indonesia, Aceh Rebels OK Cease-Fire
Dari The Associated Press kito baco pagi ko untuak diparedakan basamo di Lapau . Salam, Mak Ngah May 12, 2000 Indonesia, Aceh Rebels OK Cease-Fire Filed at 6:52 a.m. EDT By The Associated Press GENEVA (AP) -- Indonesian government and Aceh rebel representatives today signed an agreement that will lead to their first formal cease-fire in 25 years of fighting. Hassan Wirayuda, Indonesia's permanent U.N. representative in Geneva, and Zaini Abdullah, an Aceh rebel representative based in Sweden, signed the ``joint understanding on a humanitarian pause'' at an undisclosed location, said an official close to the talks. The ``humanitarian pause'' will start June 2, three weeks after the signing, the Indonesian mission to U.N. offices in Geneva said in a statement. ``The first phase of its implementation covers a period of three months and will be regularly reviewed for its renewal,'' the statement said. It covers ``joint efforts both to increase humanitarian relief assistance and to reduce tension and to stop violence.'' Today's signing, at a location kept secret at the request of both sides, followed three rounds of talks between the two sides facilitated by the Geneva-based Henri Dunant Center for Humanitarian Dialogue. ``This joint understanding is an early step of a hundred-step journey in the efforts to find a final solution of the Aceh problem,'' Wirayuda said in the Indonesian statement. He said that in the three rounds of dialogue ``we have produced the joint understanding which -- if it is implemented successfully -- could help boost the confidence for the subsequent process.'' Two joint committees will be established to implement the agreement, the Indonesian statement said. Each will have a maximum of 10 members. A monitoring team comprising ``five persons of high integrity'' will oversee their activities. The committees will be based in Banda Aceh, the Acehnese provincial capital. A ``joint forum'' consisting of representatives from both sides will be based in Switzerland and regarded as the highest decision-making body. One of the joint committees will be responsible for humanitarian action, ``coordinating effective delivery of humanitarian relief assistance in a way which will ensure greater participation of and benefit to the people of Aceh,'' the Indonesian statement said. The second committee will oversee security aspects of the program, ``particularly by ensuring the reduction of tension and the cessation of violence,'' it said. Abdullah said Thursday that the rebels will abide by such a cease-fire agreement, which ``would be very important for the Acehnese because we don't want fighting any more.'' But he said they would not drop their ultimate demand for independence for the northwestern province, on the tip of Sumatra Island. In Jakarta, President Abdurrahman Wahid had said he hoped the negotiations would produce a cease-fire in Aceh, where 5,000 people have been killed in the last decade, including 345 this year. But Wahid also said once again that he will not accept the rebels' demand for independence. The Aceh rebels, embittered a crackdown by the Indonesian military and by perceived economic exploitation, are fighting for independence for their province. They also want a greater share of the profits from their oil-rich region and the right to impose Islamic religious laws on the people. Wahid, a Muslim c
Re: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
> Manyalek ambo ciek, lah panek pulo mancangkuang di suduik lapau mah.> Ado pulo awak nan lai rajin sumbayang, bakatubah di musajik tapi korupsi > jalan taruih.. apokoh labiah rancak inyo baranti sumbayang.. kan nan salah > tatap tindakan korupsi nyo itu, indak sumbayangnyo. Awak sumbayang + bakatubah + korupsi , Ano labiah rancak baranti sumbayang. Manuruik ambo nansarancakno adolah Awak Sumbayang + Bakatubah - Korupsi, Ano labiah rancak sumbayang. Bahkan mungkin > sumbayangnyo nan paralu dibenahi. Kalau dunsanak padusi awak bajilbab tapi > parangainyo naudzubilan mindzalik, tantu nan salah bukan pakaian > jilbabnyo..tapi parangainyo... ijan jilbab disalahkan. Iyo lo go eh, ota dilapau namono, mulono dari jilbab (kapalo) beko akhia-akhia no sampai ka kaki nan "indak basaok" atau "nan basaok". Dibandiangkan bulo duh. Kalau palampok kaki tu haragono bisa sampai Rp. 4 juta tapi kalau pampok kapalo bia lah nan Rp. 40 rb., sapar saratuih bedano. Baa duh kok sampai bak cando tun duh. > Kasus lain, dunsanak awak ko indak bajilbab tapi parangainyo islami,, di > sisi parangai inyo lah batua..meskipun indak marupokan refleksi dari > perilaku bapakaiannyo (mungkin dek faktor lain, norma susila, hukum, > pendidikan) iko bola dan diumpankan pak Zet.. tapi inyo alun cukuik mamanuhi > syaraik dari segi berpakaian nan Islami, dan relatif alun terlalu aman dari > gangguan (gunjingan, mato laki-laki dll. mis). Meskipun walaupun pakai > jilbab alun tantu juo salamaik dari gunjingan dan goda'an lai (contohnyo > awak tau surang), tapi setidaknyo dapek relatif diminimalisir. Mungkin samo > jo pertanyaan apokoh kalau awak sudah mandi, atau baranang masih paralu > bauduak ka sumbayang? Jadi, kalau baitu sacaro jujur dari lubuak hati nan dalam, kito (ambo masih tamasuak goh... jan berang lo ka ambo) samo-samo mangaku baraso ugamo tu baru sabatas masih dalam CPU kapalo atau tingga di disket/buku. Alun sampai lai kito transfer ka printer sabagai aktualisasi dan realisasi ma amalkannyo. Di SD kito lah diajakan baraso rukun islam tu ado limo dan rukun iman tu ado 6. Itu lah jaleh dikito, tapi ndak sacaro konsisten kito karajoan. Puaso ado sumbayang tingga atau naiak haji alah tapi alun bazakaik atau kito picayo kapado rasul sarato ajarannyo tapi kito labiah picayo jo ajaran rang jahiliyyah. > Jadi kalau masalah iko dipalegakan iyo rumik ko mah..samo pula jo debat > antaro pak Ustadz Khairi jo ni Evi (plus ni Rita) tantang posisi wanita. Apo > lai kalau pihak nan terlibat debat mamakai paradigma nan balain (Al Qur'an > dan Hadis versus logika dan 'kecerdasan' atau 'kata hati' et cetera). Dalam > manjaweknyo ambo satuju ka pak Ustadz Khairi (plus Lembang, Mulyadi nan > mungkin kebetulan sadonyo laki-laki..he..he..) rancak awak babaliak ka > pangka. Takuik awak salah kakok malantiangkan, tanpa manutuik jalan ka > interpretasi pribadi.. Untuak uni-uni jan berang pulo ka ambo ha..ha...> > Nevertheless, debat iko sabana mambari 'pencerahan' ka ambo pribadi, > saindaknyo dapek maliek 'kondisi lapangan' nan tajadi kiniko (dalam > representasi nan tantu sajo sangek terbatas). Hanyo sayang indak ado uni-uni > atau ibuk-ibuk nan mewakili kelompok 'konservatif' atau 'fundamentalis', > kalau ado tantu tambah langkok perbendaharaan kito basamo. Ambo pun sangaik satuju ota bantuak ko ditaruihan dilapauko. Bagi ambo untuak manambah ilimu untuak diterapkanlah nantinyo insya-Allah. Dari pado kito maota hilia mudiak sen. Yo ndak, wakatu abih, pulsa abih, en ujuang-ujuang no kepeng. Nan pantiang jan lah kito capek bana marabo, kalau lah marabo ota ko lah bapetai-petai nyo. Nan ndak paralu disabuik tasabuik-annyo. Have a nice weekend. Jamua banta jo kasua, mudah-mudahan kapindiang bakirok no, sahinggo malam minggu lalok bisa manthap. Salam, dn > Parmato Alam> > >From: MULYADI> >> >heheh> >uda...uda "samo sajo"> >Jan pertanyaan di jawab dengan pertanyaan,> >kalau baitu ko ado parumpamaan ciek lai ..> >mulai kini awak marokok baliak aah> >marokok ndak marokok samo-sajo ka mati juo nantinya, ( bukan baitu ) itu> >adalah sebuah pelarian ma uda.sebuah alasan yg di buat-buat.> >Maaf kalau bukan pado tampeknyo, tapi itu adalah suatu kilas balik dari > >saya> >ka uni2 tsb.> >mungkin bisua' awak pai kapasa pakai sarawa "kotok" sajoalah, karano banyak> >urang laki2 kini ko yg mamaki jenggot labek ba kupiah (khususnya para> >mentri) tingkah lakunya ...".."> > > > From: Z Chaniago[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]> > > > Assalamu'alaikum WW> > >> > > Untuak soal jilbab bialah ambo cubo mamulai...,> > >> > > Untuak saak kini ambo maliek lah mulai batambah banyak Kaum Muslimah nan> > > ba> > > jilbab, apokoh iko tren atau apo ...ambo indak bisa manjawab...> > > dek iko hanyo nan nampak> > >> > > Tetapi satu hal nan paralu di paratikan juo baraso tantang ba jilbab iko> > > harus di liek dulu apo nan manjadi dasarnyo dek ur
[Rantau-Net] Gambar Pamandangan dari Bukittinggi di "Kompas"
Tampak pulo sakileh gambar pamandangan dari Bukittinggi di Kompas hari Sabtu 14 Maret 2000. -- Mak Ngah LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
[Rantau-Net] CNN - Books Reviews -In Search of Islamic Feminism One Woman's Global Journey -
CNN - Books: Reviews -"In Search of Islamic Feminism: One Woman's Global Journey" - June 11, 1998 Review: Is there such a thing as 'Islamic Feminism'? 'In Search of Islamic Feminism: One Woman's Global Journey' by Elizabeth Warnock Fernea Doubleday, $24.95 Review by Joe Sterling (CNN) -- Many people in the West associate Islamic civilization with war, fanaticism and intolerance. TV and newspapers cover seismic events first, like wars and bombings, and tend to focus on issues that seem outlandish to the West, like the Salman Rushdie affair. As a result, Westerners will read and hear about discord in Indonesia, Israel, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Turkey, Iraq and Algeria before they will read about the bread-and-butter issues people care about in the Muslim world, which stretches from Asia to Africa and reaches into the Americas and Europe. In her book "In Search of Islamic Feminism: One Woman's Global Journey", Elizabeth Warnock Fernea helps us understand and appreciate Muslim society and its struggle with modern life through an examination of the status of women there. Fernea is the author of "Guests of the Sheik", a description of life in a village in rural Iraq, and she has written other books and made films about life in the Arab world. With a keen eye, an alert ear and a collection of well-informed contacts cultivated through years of living and working in the Middle East, Fernea fashions a picture of Muslim society a daily journalist just doesn't have the time to provide, except in snippets. Fernea travels to Uzbekistan, Morocco, Kuwait, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Israel and the territories. And she spends some time in the United States, where she interviews American Muslim women. And she has written an intelligent, respectful, informative book that helps us hurdle the headlines. Fernea's goal is to find out the state of women in the Islamic world and to see what kind of impact feminism has had on them: "Are feminist ideas helpful? Does feminism work across class, geographical, and cultural boundaries? Are its tenets universal? Do other forms of feminism exist -- Islamic feminism, for instance?" The people who address these issues are not the women on the street. They are the elite -- novelists, the politicians, the college educated. The interviewees are well aware of the issues their respective societies face and they were able to impart the problems and challenges. The issues women face are wide-ranging and profound. Laws and customs involving marriage and divorce, child-care policies and female circumcision, for example, are of great concern. The knowledge of and feeling for the hopes and dreams of Muslim women make for some enlightening conversation and commentary. The chapter on Morocco was strong in this regard. Fernea had lived in Morocco before, and her host, novelist Leila Abouzeid, was particularly insightful. It's fair to say that the majority of women interviewed in the book feel a bit uncomfortable with or perplexed about the word "feminism." In Kuwait, for example, the word was "hard to translate" for some women, who perceived the term as "an American export, sort of like McDonald's and Kentucky Fried Chicken, lots of flash." But some of the same people who express the discomfort may still embody the heart and soul of a feminist by Western standards. The chapter about Iraq belies some of the stereotypes about that nation. While it is a country that epitomizes the worst in human rights, at the same time, Fernea found that it exhibits the best record on women's rights in the Middle East. One of the factors is the influence of the Baathist socialist movement. On the issue of maternity leave, for example, an Iraqi mother gets a full year - "six months with full pay, six months half pay." We learn in this book that the Muslim world seems to be much more conscious of class matters than we are in the West. Addressing social imparities such as poverty is seen by some as a solution, in large part, for the women's plight. In Uzbekistan, Fernea is told by one woman: "Feminism, I tell you, is a luxury of rich people. If you don't have enough to eat and you're sick, do you think you care about anything except getting enough to eat, trying to get well? Here everyone has to work, men and women, there is no choice, you work or you don't eat." \ Women's liberation is also seen attainable only within the context of Islam. Fernea says: "Islamic women begin with the assumption that the possibility of gender equality already exists in the Qu'ran itself; the problem, as they see it, is malpractice, or misunderstanding, of the sacred text." And she adds, "And no women I met doubted the basic message of the Qu'ran: men and women are equal in possibility and potential. (Some men felt differently!)" The only thin chapter in the book was the one entitled Israel/Palestine. Some Jewish Israeli women were interviewed, and they were in the peace movement. My understanding
Re: [Rantau-Net] CNN - Books Reviews -In Search of IslamicFeminism One Woman's Global Journey -
Iko tambahan reviewnyo nan ambo ambiak dari Amazon. Mak Ngah At 9:08 AM +0700 5/13/00, Evi wrote: >CNN - Books: Reviews -"In Search of Islamic Feminism: One Woman's Global >Journey" - June 11, 1998 > Editorial Reviews Amazon.com To the West, the Islamic world often appears homogeneous and monolithic; the Islam practiced in Iran or Saudi Arabia is our model for Islam everywhere: heavily veiled women, strictly segregated schools and workplaces, the harsh law of sharia demanding a thief's hand cut off or an adulterous woman stoned to death. In reality, the practice of Islam varies widely from place to place and culture to culture; in Turkey, for example, Islam may be the religion of the majority, but the political and legal systems are strictly secular. In Saudi Arabia, on the other hand, politics and religion are one, represented by the power of the mullahs and the ruling family. Uzbeki Muslims are different from Senegalese Muslims, and North African Islam has more than a little sub-Saharan influence to thank for its pantheon of djinns, afrites, and holy saints. Just as religious practices differ from country to country, so does the impact of Islam on women. Muslim women in Morocco, for example, have the legal right to drive a car, while women in Saudi Arabia do not. This being the case, is it even possible to define an Islamic brand of feminism? Elizabeth Warnock Fernea, a professor of Middle Eastern studies at the University of Texas, Austin, certainly tries and, in many cases, succeeds. Her book, In Search of Islamic Feminism, is both an account of her many years spent living and traveling in the Middle East and an attempt to define the issues facing Islamic women today. Though Fernea occasionally comes off as naive, she also makes valuable points about the many faces of Islam and feminism. --This text refers to the hardcover edition of this title The New York Times Book Review, Elaine Sciolino In the tradition of good travel writing, Fernea is a storyteller who captivates her reader with sights and smells and tastes To her credit, Fernea understands how difficult it is to draw universal conclusions when studying women in countries as different as Saudi Arabia ... and Uzbekistan --This text refers to the hardcover edition of this title From Kirkus Reviews , November 1, 1997 A remarkable, stereotype-shattering, gender-bending study of Middle Eastern women and their efforts to gain equality. Fernea (Middle Eastern Studies/Univ. of Texas) spent two years traveling to Uzbekistan, Morocco, Kuwait, Turkey, Egypt, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Israel asking these questions: Is feminism possible under Islam, a religion that at least on the surface seems to demand that women be subservient to men? And if so, how is Islamic feminism different from Western feminism? Fascinating... read more Book Description "Islamic feminism" would seem a contradiction in terms to most Westerners. We are taught to think of Islam as a culture wherein social code and religious law alike force women to accept male authority and surrender to the veil. How could feminism emerg
Re: [Rantau-Net] CNN - Books Reviews -In Search of IslamicFeminism One Woman's Global Journey -
At 9:08 AM +0700 5/13/00, Evi wrote: >CNN - Books: Reviews -"In Search of Islamic Feminism: One Woman's Global >Journey" - June 11, 1998 > > Review: Is there such a thing as 'Islamic Feminism'? > > >'In Search of Islamic Feminism: One Woman's Global Journey' >by Elizabeth Warnock Fernea >Doubleday, $24.95 > >Review by Joe Sterling > Bagus Evi ketengahkan bahan bacaan ang banyak gunanya ini. Selain yang hardcover yang mahal harganya itu juga sudah ada terbitan papaerbacknya yang jauh lebih murah dari hardback itu. Kalau mau pesan cepat dapat dipesan dari Amazon, bahkan diberi potongan 20% lagi: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0385488580/qid=958192051/sr=1-2/002-77839 84-7917205 In Search of Islamic Feminism: One Woman's Global Journey by Elizabeth Warnock Fernea List Price: $14.00 Our Price: $11.20 You Save: $2.80 (20%) Availability: Usually ships within 24 hours. Paperback - 448 pages 1 Anchor edition (November 10, 1998) Bantam Books; ISBN: 0385488580 ; Dimensions (in inches): 0.97 x 7.99 x 5.21 Salam, Mak Ngah * "The real contest now is not so much airplanes, trucks, roadways or ships, but who has the best information and who knows how to use it" IBM * LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
[Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim
Ass.ww Sanak nan di lapau. Jilbab manuruik ambo manampakgan ciri Muslimah Haji ... mangecekgan urang tu malaksanakan rukun Islam ka limo... Duo nan diateh sarancakno iyo ado korelasi jo parangainyo. Tapi ingek manusia . Jan mantang alah mangarajoan ciek manuntuik sadoanno wajib dikajoanno .. Sakali lai manusia punyo keterbatasan, keinginan dll limitation. Kalau pandapek ambo labiah elok dikarajoanno sabagian, dari pado indak samo sakali. Tuhan Allah lah nan ka manilai pado akhirnyo. Marilah awak balomba untuak labiah baiak, labiah baiak. Nan alun samporono iyo sagitu baru kamampuanno. Sarancakno iyo jan awak bapandapek : " Dari pado indak lengkap, labiah elok indak " nanti bari lari dari Islam apo jadinyo. Ingek disampiang kwalitas, kwantitas juo paralu. Saparati subject no diateh "Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim" indak "Jilbab muslimah nan malaksanakan agomu sacaro utuh" doh. Iko pandapek rang tipih agomo-no. Maaf yo rang lapau. Wass.ww St.P -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Z Chaniago Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 2:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[Rantau-Net] Jilbab dan Wanita Muslim Assalamu'alaikum WW Untuak soal jilbab bialah ambo cubo mamulai..., Untuak saak kini ambo maliek lah mulai batambah banyak Kaum Muslimah nan ba jilbab, apokoh iko tren atau apo ...ambo indak bisa manjawab... dek iko hanyo nan nampak Tetapi satu hal nan paralu di paratikan juo baraso tantang ba jilbab iko harus di liek dulu apo nan manjadi dasarnyo dek urang... Ado nan iyo bana dari dalam... Ado nan ikut-ikutan Ado nan dek sikola di sikola agamo Ado nan tapaso Nah sasudah itu, baa bantuak jilbabnyo...ado nan bajilbab gadang ado nan bajilbab tapi dibawahnyo mamakai rok panjang... ado nan jilbab modern (di bawahnyo pakai celana panjang)... ado pulo pakai songkoktaruih salendang... dan nan mamakai salendang ala Benazir Bhutto atau ala Mbak Tutut... malah ado nan transaparan... Tetapi urang bajilbab atau indak itu indak bisa dijadikan dasar panilaian soal hubungannyo dengan nan Maha Kuasa Allah SWT..., sahinggo pertanyaan SAnak Mulyadi ka bakeh Uni Evi sarato Uni Rita rasonyo kurang pado tampeknyo Soalnyo ambo punyo contoh kasus...wakatu kuliah ambo punyo kawan padusi nan pakai jilbabnamun parangai-nyo itu jauah dari atribut jilbabnyo , malah labiah pulo dari kawan padusi umumnyo.., lah dicubo maagiah tauindak jo barubah ...sahinggo kadang kami sampai tega mangecekkan jaleh bana indak bajilbab jaleh pulo nan kadikecekkan ka bakeh inyo... Tetapi ado pulo kawan surang lai parangai malah elok bana...hanyo alun pakai jilbab Sekedar paumpan bola... Wassalam Z Chaniago - Palai Rinuak LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
[Rantau-Net] Saadawi.doc
Saadawi.doc Problems facing a womens movement in Islamic countries Interview with Nawal El Saadawi Womens Voice: What is your opinion on Islamic feminism? Is there any meaning to this phenomenon? Nawal El Saadawi: Yes there is meaning to Islamic feminism (and Christian feminism) if those religions are interpreted in a progressive way so that God means justice, freedom and love and not a text. WV: There are women believers of Islam in Iran who also believe women should be equal to men in social rights. What do you think of this? El Saadawi : Why not. You can believe in Islam (or any other religion) and interpret it to mean equality and social justice. WV: Is the equality between men and women achievable under a religious state? For instance the Iranian Islamic state formally, and on paper, accepts this equality. Yet the philosophy of the Islamic Republic is based on Islamic sharia. Do you think that Islamic sharia and equality of men and women are compatible? El Saadawi: I do not think any religious state is able to be just and fair. Religion is a political ideology based on class oppression and male domination. The sharia is different from faith or belief. Sharia is made by people and changes all the time. The faith also changes, but could be a personal private matter not connected with politics or the state or land or anything else, as in the case of sharia. WV: is it possible, without going into religious arguments, to create a womens movement based upon specific demands of women such as the right to divorce, equal inheritance, guardianship of children etc.? El Saadawi: Yes it is possible WV: Independent womens movement in Islamic countries are usually seen as dependent to foreigners and to the West. How can these movements overcome such a suspicion and how can they prove that the defence of equality between men and women has nothing to do with dependency to the West, and that a feminist movement can also stand up to dependency and encroachment? El Saadawi: Women can prove that they are independent of the West or East by their work, activities, writings, etc., You can fight against negative rumour by your work and activities and thoughts. WV: The development of feminist movements in Western countries was in a convergence with the workers movement, or at least, they have never been in opposition to each other. On the other hand in Islamic countries, womens movements appear to be imprisoned in the circle of the middle and upper classes (of course this does not apply to Iran because of the presence of a religious state). In Islamic countries, the more we move to the bottom of society, the movement of the poor gets more masculine. That is to say in Islamic countries there is a gap between the feminist and workers movements. How do you explain this phenomenon and what can be done about it? Islamist feminism: a road to liberating or a mirage? El Saadawi: There is also a gap between the feminist movement in the West and the workers. The same as in other countries. But the womens liberation movement can attract women from all classes, but each class can produce their leaders. Nobody is going to liberate the peasants except peasants. We liberate ourselves. Nobody can liberate the other. Begin with yourself is a principle that is genuine and real. WV: The experience of Iran taught us that the womens movement should be independent of men in order to become more dynamic and energetic. Independent of men means that the activity and movement should not be slowed down by the mens movement. It has to be expanded by its own potential energy. Also independence from men does not mean being in opposition and antagonism to men. Do you think such a movement in Islamic counties has a chance to become a mass movement? El Saadawi: In our experience in our countries, we have 30% men in our associations. Men and women can work together if they unveil their brains and acquire knowledge in a new light. But this depends on place and time. Sometimes independent womens organisations are a must. Yes women organisations in our countries have the chance to be a mass movement if women connect and organise across class barriers. WV: Given the lack of democracy, bigotry and fanaticism in Islamic countries, is the womens movement able to become an active movement with discipline, organisation and strong political muscle throughout these countries. Do you see the women movement coming out of its present position of small cells? If this is probable, in your view what conditions, techniques, demands and possibilities is needed? El Saadawi: Democracy is lacking all over the world. Women organise in spite of all that. There are women organisations in Islamic countries that are fighting but we do not hear about them. It is lack of communication. Of course under dictatorships all organisations (women and men) are handicapped but they work underground. Men are more experienced in underground work than women. But
Re: [Rantau-Net] Konfirmasi Partamuan RN II
At 7:35 AM + 5/13/00, Bandaro wrote: >Kalau lagi males mambao kureta surang, io elok naik umum sajo. >Murah - agak aman (ati-ati dompet jo HP) - tingga lalok .tau- >tau sampai ditujuan, ... baitu nan acok dikaogan dek Tan A Lun. Aa o du aratino HP tun? > >Siapo nan punyo digital camera aaa baso awakno ko nyiak ??? ... > >'Ndaro >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Untuak padanan Caro Awak no "digital camera" tu mungkin kito pakai "kamera digit" njiak salangkah saayun lo awak jo jiran kito di Nagari Kolang. Nyiak Sunguik "The real contest now is not so much airplanes, trucks, roadways or ships, but who has the best information and who knows how to use it" IBM X Sjamsir Sjarif Indonesian Translator and Cultural Consultant Tel. (831)-426-1333 Fax (831)-426-8907 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Page: http://www.usindo.net/hambo LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
Re: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab di Restoran McDonald
Alhamdullillah, pemilik Mc Donald INA : pak Bambang, lai sabana kuaik parhatianno ka Islam. Kami juo parnah mandapek kedermawanan Mc Donald ko. Thn 1991 di Ulando, samaso barubek anak bunsu, salamo duo bulan, kami ditampuang di apartment Ronald Mc Donald Huis (dibangun oleh Mc Donald) jo sewo sabana murah, asa tando mambaia sin). Lokasino disabalah RS AMC / Emma Kindergaten. 'Ndaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Sjamsir Sjarif" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [Rantau-Net] Jilbab di Restoran McDonald > Maa Rang Lapau nan Basamo, > > Kito ucapkan selamat ka Denmark dimano hak asasi Kaum Muslimah alah dapek > mangatangahkan isu tu. Mudah-mudahan langkah nan dimuloi di Kopenhagen ko LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
Re: [Rantau-Net] Konfirmasi Partamuan RN II
Kalau lagi males mambao kureta surang, io elok naik umum sajo. Murah - agak aman (ati-ati dompet jo HP) - tingga lalok .tau- tau sampai ditujuan, ... baitu nan acok dikaogan dek Tan A Lun. 1. Naik KRL "Pakuan" dari Kota, nonstop ( ? hanyo sakali baranti (?) di Gambir.) 2. Pakai bus hanyo sakali bus dari Kali Deres / Grogol / Slipi ( bus Garuda) atau Plumpang / Cempaka Putih bus Giri Indah, langsuang ka Baranang Siang Bogor. Dari terminal Brg Siang, bisa jln kaki ke Tugu Kujang / IPB. Kok taraso jauh, naik angkot 09 atau 13 atau 06 atau 01 dari Mesid Raya / terminal ke Tugu kujang - Lalu naik 05 jurusan Cimahpar, turun di "Taman" (istilah halte Bgr Baru) Patiah jan lupo batu domin. Palai Rinuak, Riri Satria, Fred, Nusrizar, Epi Gamut, adik kamanakan di UI / ITB, Imam Sati ( SBY), Ahmad Idrus (SMG), Irdam, Oni, nan lain baa ? Iko adolah undangan untuak saluruh Rantaunetter dimano sajo barado. Sempatkanlah singgah ka Bgr Baru bilo lo lai ? Ni Ben sedang un-subscribe, mungkinkah tibo-tibo nonggol di Bgr () Siapo nan punyo digital camera aaa baso awakno ko nyiak ??? Kok indak, KKN dulu jo inventaris kantua, sakalian jo sofwerno. Katokan ka boss, Tan A Lun manyalang 'gak sahari. Diparalukan untuak mangodak partamuan RN. To Maifil : Lai mbo telepon kakantua (021) 7581 9021, tapi indak bisa masuak. Salah nomor ? 'Ndaro [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Darul Makmur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 4:33 AM Subject: RE: [Rantau-Net] Konfirmasi Partamuan RN II > Ass.ww > > Miko . sanang bana basamo-samo awak tu mah, tapi iyo didalam panser > mbo ... Lai ndak kabaa tuh .. Di ma awak batamu? Alternative : > 1. Terminal bis Kp. Rambutan > 2. Rumah Sakik Harapan Bunda > 3. Tompaik istirahat jalan tol disabalah taman min > 4. Atau nan lain. > > Mbo tunggu. > > Wass. > St.P > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Behalf Of MIKO - RantauNet Admin (.) > > pintu tol Taman Mini. Atau nan lain??? Kalau indak ado, iyo di ambek se bis > nan dari Tanjuang Pariuak langsuang ka Bogor. Tapi nan nomor bara angkot > warna biru nan lewat rumah Mak Bandaro > > W姧ä£ãmmü°â£áìküm wå(r)rãhmâtú££àhï wâßá(r)õkåtüh > > MIKO > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > LAPAU RantauNet di http://lapau.rantaunet.web.id Isi Database ke anggotaan RantauNet: http://www.egroups.com/database/rantaunet?method=addRecord&tbl=1 = WEB-EMAIL GRATIS ... @rantaunet.web.id ---> http://mail.rantaunet.web.id = Subscribe - Mendaftar RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi email / Messages: subscribe rantau-net email_anda Unsubscribe - Berhenti menerima RantauNet Mailing List, kirimkan email Ke / To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Isi emai / Messages: unsubscribe rantau-net email_anda = WebPage RantauNet http://www.rantaunet.web.id dan Mailing List RantauNet adalah servis dari EEBNET http://eebnet.com, Airland Groups, USA =
[Rantau-Net] Bukittinggi
Jiko ado nan lah lupo jo Bukittinggi, atau ingin mangatahui kaadaan BT kini silahkan baco di Kompas, 7 Mei 2000 hal 16 Bukittinggi "Kota Unik di Puncak, Lereng, Bawah dan dalam Bukit " Kpd Palai rinuak, apo www no tu ? Tan A Lun[EMAIL PROTECTED]~~
