[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.

[Gino Zahnd]

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 7:45 PM, Bill M.  wrote:

> Calfee's about the only carbon bike I'd consider.


Me too.

This was my last carbonium bike (likely ever):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/376251481/

It was a very nice bike, and I don't have anything bad to say about it,
except that it didn't quite fit (too small), and these days I've seen enough
carbon failure (though not Calfee) to steer clear of it.

Speaking of which, there's a broken Calfee here about 10 images down,
snapped at the typical spots on the frame:
http://pardo.net/bike/pic/fail-016/index.html

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[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.

[Brewster Fong]

On Apr 19, 7:45 pm, "Bill M."  wrote:
> Brewster,
>
> Then I guess I'm NOT the only Calfee owner on this board!  It's
> reassuring to hear that they can indeed hold up over the long term.
> Calfee's about the only carbon bike I'd consider.  Practically retro
> compared to a Cervelo or such.  The durability record looks pretty
> good, probably because it'a few ounces heavier than some of the latest
> stuff.  If only the fork would take a 28!  The rear will no problem,
> though.
>
Wow, and here I thought I was the only carbon frame owner on this
board too!  I agree that compared to some of today's lightweight
carbon framesets out there, Calfees are indeed heavy. My tetra custom
frame weighs in at an ungainly 2.5lb. In contrast, some of the newer
framesets out of China weight that much - that's frame AND fork!

What kind of fork are you using? Most carbon forks, especially the
lighter ones from Reynolds, True Temper (alpha q) and Easton will only
fit 25mm. You may want to research this, but I believe Winwood makes a
carbon fork that takes 28mm wide tires. I use 700x25s myself and find
its all I need.

> For now, the Calfee and the Riv are sharing a set of pedals.  The Riv
> is geared for the flatlands, the Calfee for hills.  It's nice to have
> options!
>
On my Calfee I use Speedplay Frogs (got tired of walking like a duck).
I have an extra pair for my fillet-brazed Paul Taylor cross bike, but
since its been used mainly for commuting, I've been using my MKS step-
on pedals - "Riv Style!"
>
> >On Apr 18, 10:15 pm, Brewster Fong  wrote:
>
> > If durability is an issue then yes, Ti is better than carbon. However,
> > I've seen ti frames break, while my 12 year old Calfee, which I bought
> > used, is still going strong.
> > Brewster
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[RBW] Re: video from our ride today

[David Estes]

Stoker-cam!

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

>
> Nice video!  I've never ridden in North Carolina, but it looks nice!
>
> --Eric
> www.wheelsnorth.org
> www.campyonly.com
>
> On Apr 19, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> >
> > Had a group ride in durham, nc. No rivs on the ride today but lots of
> > bits and pieces from rivendell.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwSvRnBWCmM
> >
> > It was a nice day, overcast but no serious wind.
> >
> > I would have taken the atlantis but the girlfriend wanted to come
> > along, too, so that meant the tandem and so far I've not heard
> > anything concrete about a rivendell tandem. (I would love to be
> > corrected, however.)
> >
> > -sv
> >
> > >
>
>
> >
>


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Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: video from our ride today

[Eric Norris]

Nice video!  I've never ridden in North Carolina, but it looks nice!

--Eric
www.wheelsnorth.org
www.campyonly.com

On Apr 19, 2009, at 8:54 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:

>
> Had a group ride in durham, nc. No rivs on the ride today but lots of
> bits and pieces from rivendell.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwSvRnBWCmM
>
> It was a nice day, overcast but no serious wind.
>
> I would have taken the atlantis but the girlfriend wanted to come
> along, too, so that meant the tandem and so far I've not heard
> anything concrete about a rivendell tandem. (I would love to be
> corrected, however.)
>
> -sv
>
> >


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[RBW] video from our ride today

[Seth Vidal]

Had a group ride in durham, nc. No rivs on the ride today but lots of
bits and pieces from rivendell.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwSvRnBWCmM

It was a nice day, overcast but no serious wind.

I would have taken the atlantis but the girlfriend wanted to come
along, too, so that meant the tandem and so far I've not heard
anything concrete about a rivendell tandem. (I would love to be
corrected, however.)

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Riv Ride

[David Estes]

You rode an extra 20, but probably in the same time we did our 40.  Hot,
hot, hot ride, but a GREAT route through Santiago Canyon lead out by Doug.
Lot of cross and head winds that got tiresome, and going up the Santiago
grade sure wore me out (mentally as much as physically, that's a long
stretch of road).

No mechanicals but some bonks and near bonks due to dehydration and heat.

Surprise guests from Walnut Creek dropped by to ride a Legolas and
Rambouillet.

I can say that a good time was had by all!

some pics here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157617064103668/

and the map here:
http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ca/irvine/316123749405740029

The discussion 'round the planning
tablewas
to attempt a dirt trails (fire road) ride out of Redlands in May,
possibly a S24O in Crystal Cove for June, and then San Diego penninsula in
July (I hear they have great shwarma plates!).

THANKS Doug for planning and coordinating this one.  I was nice of you guys
to hang around while we waited for our train (and for me on multiple
hills).

Cheers,
David

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Joe Bartoe  wrote:

>  Hi Doug,
>
> We have a sick one at home. Not the same one. The other one. Anyway, I
> wasn't able to make it to the start of the ride, but thought I'd try and
> find you guys. I wanted to get in some hills so I headed out from my place
> and headed over to Ortega Highway and then up Antonio Parkway. Man, it was
> windy going up Antonio! I went up to Santa Margarita Parkway (it was 92
> degrees when I got there. Geez!). I made a left and head up SM Pkwy toward
> El Toro, figuring I might be able to find you on your route. I headed up and
> up until I got to Cook's Corner, but not Riv group. I turned right and
> headed back toward Rancho Santa Margarita via the canyon. Once I got back to
> SM Pkwy it was 95 degrees! I headed back down Antonio. The wind had changed
> so I didn't have the nice tailwind that I would have expected. I couldn't
> wait to get back down to the coast. My head was beginning to hurt from
> dehydration. Close to 6o miles total after a short out and back into San
> Clemente. Not too shabby, but it would have been nice to see you guys. I was
> even on the AHH.
>
> Hope you ride went well. Sorry I missed it!
>
> Joe
>
> --
> From: dougpn...@cox.net
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> CC: ccroy2...@yahoo.com
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride
> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:47:10 -0700
>
>
>  Joe:
>
>
>
> Sunday, April 19.  Meet at the Irvine train station (Barranca & Ada) around
> 9 and ride by 9:30.  Santiago Cyn plus a detour to the start-finish line of
> the ’84 Olympic road course in MV.  We’ll throw in a couple of dirt options
> (Peters Cyn and a cut thru Whiting Ranch) that parallel the course so people
> can either stick to pavement or get dirty and still end up together.  Total
> distance around 40 miles.  We may have some guys coming from LA & not sure
> if they’ll drive or Metrolink.  Check the Flickr site for any last minute
> updates or changes:
>
>
>
>
> http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157615635262368/
>
>
>
> Hope you can make it.  Everything is green now.  From now on, So Cal’s only
> gonna get drier and “more golden”.
>
>
>
> dougP
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Joe Bartoe
> *Sent:* Friday, April 17, 2009 10:33 AM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [RBW] Riv Ride
>
>
>
>
> Hi Doug,
>
> This weekend is the Riv ride. What day, time. place? I'm trying to figure
> out if I can make it work.
>
> Joe
>  --
>
> From: dougpn...@cox.net
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [RBW] Re: noodle bars
> Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:44:50 -0700
>
> Patrick makes an important point.  Bars, saddles and pedals all work
> together.  Your entire weight is supported on your butt, two feet and two
> hands, and distributed among those 5 points.  Toss in medical constraints
> (back, knees, wrists, etc.) and it’s a multi-variate challenge.  Love my
> Noodles, Brooks, and Grip Kings (sounds like I been hitting the kool aid!)
> but as well as they satisfy my needs, that combo may be a torture rack for
> someone else.  This is how we all wind up with a shop full of bike parts
> after a few years cycling.
>
>
>
> FS: Half dozen each h’bars, seats and stems.  Large selection; make offer
> J.
>
>
>
> dougP
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *PATRICK MOORE
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:48 PM
> *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [RBW] Re: noodle bars
>
>
>
>
> Don: I wasn't pooh pooh-ing them, just expressing another opinion on 

[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[Lynne Fitz]

u-lock (rear wheel and frame), thick braided cable (front wheel w/
generator hub, Brooks saddle, Carradice rear bag, frame).

If I'm watching it through a window, right by the door (and it is
parked with 2 Sweetpeas and another Riv), I'm less fussy about where
the cable is going.

I still twitch, but it hasn't gone anywhere yet.  If it was an all-day
situation, I'd ask if I could bring it inside.

This is in-town Portland and certain shopping malls in Beaverton.

Hammered honjo fenders and canvas luggage stand out in the crowd...

On Apr 19, 12:50 pm, mitchelr  wrote:
> In sight, 100 Decibel Aerostich motion sensor cable lock 4 ozs.
>
> On Apr 18, 10:30 pm, William Henderson 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less.  If the
> > former, no explanation needed or wanted.
>
> > Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock -
> > two sometimes)- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.

[Bill M.]

Brewster,

Then I guess I'm NOT the only Calfee owner on this board!  It's
reassuring to hear that they can indeed hold up over the long term.
Calfee's about the only carbon bike I'd consider.  Practically retro
compared to a Cervelo or such.  The durability record looks pretty
good, probably because it'a few ounces heavier than some of the latest
stuff.  If only the fork would take a 28!  The rear will no problem,
though.

For now, the Calfee and the Riv are sharing a set of pedals.  The Riv
is geared for the flatlands, the Calfee for hills.  It's nice to have
options!

Bill

>On Apr 18, 10:15 pm, Brewster Fong  wrote:
>
> If durability is an issue then yes, Ti is better than carbon. However,
> I've seen ti frames break, while my 12 year old Calfee, which I bought
> used, is still going strong.
> Brewster
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[RBW] Has anyone seen these shoes

[usuk2007]

http://www.wiggle.co.uk/p/cycle/7/Exustar_SRT_707_Commuter~Office_Shoe/5360041403/

I noticed my old Shimano MTB shoes were getting a bit old yesterday so
I looked for something new
and came up with these traditional looking SPD compatible leather
shoes. Does anyone have experience with them? How are they to ride and
also walk in, ie is there a lot of cleat click?
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[RBW] Re: Upside Down Albatross Bars

[Ken Yokanovich]

Thanks for the laugh Chris...   Yes, I have heard terrible things
about yellow bikes, particularly those with S&S couplers.  If I'm too
troubled, yes... I know you and a few other people that would be happy
to help rid me of the affliction!

I commuted exclusively using a Moustache bar on my old Trek 520.  It
was fine for the commute, but if the rides stretched much past 50 or
60 miles, my wrists were uncomfortable. Once winter training rides
started stretching into the hundreds in preparation for TransIowa, I
switched to a Noodle bar. I like the variable positions on Noodle bar:
thumbs on the inside of the first bend in the bars toward the brake
levers, on the flatness of the top of the bar, on the hoods, and once
in a very rare moment in the drops.


On Apr 19, 7:58 pm, Chris Halasz  wrote:
> Thanks, Ken.
>
> Curious what limits the ride distance with the non-drop bars?
>
> Shoulders? Neck? Wrists?
>
> I tried to place these bars in the proximity of their Noodle predecessor,
> and enjoyed them for today's 40 miler. They also felt great following the
> mile swim! The lats do a little rubber banding sometimes ... Nevertheless, I
> like the aesthetic.
>
> BTW, I've always wondered if bar comfort is related to the bike itself?
>
> (For instance, I've heard that it is not possible to find comfortable
> handlebars with yellow bikes; even worse with S&S couplings. Don't know if
> that pertains to you, but if it does, let me know if I can help ;-).)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
> Tucson, AZ
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[RBW] Re: Stitching an An-Atomica Titanico

[Bill M.]

I, too, have laced my S-A due to inner thigh interference.  I found it
hard to tension a single lace adequately, so my SA is done in three
separate loops.  Looks the same in profile, works fine, and was a
definite improvement over stock (for me).

I have also had to trim the slot a little wider, as the edges between
the sit-bone areas had drawn together and were trying to overlap.
That's an 'approved' modification according tot he instruction sheet.
While I was at it, I lengthened the wide part of the slot a bit to get
a bit more pressure relief a bit further back.  That's probably not
'approved' but has also been an improvement IMO.

Bill

On Apr 19, 8:45 am, Chris Halasz  wrote:
> If your most excellent Selle An-Atomica Titanico interferes, in the
> mid-section, with your most wonderfully developed adductors, or, for
> that matter, if it's too unsupported in the middle, you may want to
> check out my An-Atomica stitched modification instruction:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/3455206389/in/set-72157606...
>
> We've done this now with two of the saddles, and find it improved the
> already excellent experience.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
> Tucson, AZ
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[RBW] Re: Stitching an An-Atomica Titanico

[Steve Park]

Great pictures.  I did a similar thing to my Selle An-Atomica, but
your handiwork much better.  Pinching the edges really improves the
shape of the saddle; the modified Selle AA is my favorite by a good
margin.
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[RBW] Re: Upside Down Albatross Bars

[Chris Halasz]

Thanks, Ken.

Curious what limits the ride distance with the non-drop bars?

Shoulders? Neck? Wrists?

I tried to place these bars in the proximity of their Noodle predecessor,
and enjoyed them for today's 40 miler. They also felt great following the
mile swim! The lats do a little rubber banding sometimes ... Nevertheless, I
like the aesthetic.

BTW, I've always wondered if bar comfort is related to the bike itself?

(For instance, I've heard that it is not possible to find comfortable
handlebars with yellow bikes; even worse with S&S couplings. Don't know if
that pertains to you, but if it does, let me know if I can help ;-).)

Cheers,

Chris
Tucson, AZ

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[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.

[BPustow]

Yes, I agree.
   I have a 1996 Litespeed Vortex with, I'm guessing, 50 to  60,000 miles 
on it. It has a brushed finish and except for some scratches on the  decals 
looks as good as the day I purchased it. That's another advantage of  
titanium. I did replace the carbon fork just because I was getting nervous 
after  
riding on it for a decade.
   I still love riding it. On the other hand, I've given  names to my 
Hilsen, Rambouillet, and Quickbeam and, when no one is looking,  on rides I 
talk 
to them. Don't laugh - I'm sure I'm not the only one.
   I guess my point is that I consider the Vortex a tool (a very  efficient 
tool) and the steel lugged bikes as having a personality.
   Bill - I swear I have not been drinking - yet.
   Louisville, Ky
 
 
 
In a message dated 4/19/2009 2:06:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
phi...@sonic.net writes:

I agree  with Jim that if you are looking for a used bicycle or frame,
> titanium  is the bargain! I've seen Serotta Legends, Litespeed Vortex,
> Merlin  Extralights and others including the newer Lemond ti frames
> sell for  anywhere from $500-1000 for frameset (usually with a carbon
> fork and  headset). A great deal.


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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[EricP]

Ken,

Don't worry about it.  I was just as bad.  After the morning "social"
ride (which ended up being 33 miles), wanted to head down to the
Cannon Valley trail for another 40 miles.  That's why I didn't hang
around.

And yes, Hiawatha is a special bike shop.  My only gripe is I didn't
discover it soon enough when I got back into riding.  Might have saved
me a couple of bad bike decisions.

Can't wait to see your bike out on the road.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 19, 11:59�am, Ken Yokanovich 
wrote:
> Eric, sorry I wasn't more social at Hiawatha on Saturday. �I do owe it
> to Jim for having IN-STOCK parts that I wanted to finish the bike.
> He's got a really great little shop, worth the trip out of the way to
> pick things up. It really is pretty interesting to see just how many
> Rivendell-related bicycles there are in our "neighborhood." �I see a
> gentleman with a VERY tall blue Ramb riding on Como Avenue quite
> frequently, a couple of Quickbeam spottings here and there too. �It'd
> be fun to have an organized "get-together" fall-S24O/ride up to the
> Group Camp at William O'Brien state park or something?!
>
> On Apr 19, 7:10�am, EricP  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Nice to see it built up. �Saw the back of the frame when you brought
> > it in to Hiawatha last Saturday. �That's a really cool color. �And
> > this from a guy who actually likes the stock color of his Atlantis.
>
> > Put me in the category of really jealous. �Of course, you'll be easier
> > to spot if you ride by me.
>
> > (As an aside - it's amazing how many folks in our area of town have
> > Rivendell bikes. �And I am including both Ken and Bill C. as "our
> > area'.)
>
> > Eric Platt
> > St. Paul, MN
>
> > On Apr 18, 5:37 pm, Ken Yokanovich 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Thanks to Karl M for the link to an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in
> > > Austin, TX... He posted the message and I didn't hesitate... I am the
> > > proud new owner! It arrived last week and I finished putting it
> > > together on Tuesday of this week. I rode it to work and back on
> > > Wednesday, Thursday, and a longer way out of the way ride to work and
> > > back on Friday. Quick photos here:
>
> > >http://picasaweb.google.com/reflector.collector/Atlantis?feat=directl...
>
> > > Details on the build can be found 
> > > here:http://reflectorcollector.blogspot.com/2009/04/its-alive.html
>
> > > Glad to be part of the Atlantis-owners bunch.- Hide quoted text -
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[RBW] Re: Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey

[JoelMatthews]

Claimed.  Thanks all for helping find this jersey a happy home.

On Apr 19, 9:59 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> Couple years ago when I was on the IBob (is there an e-mail box big
> enough to handle the volume?) I joined a one time group order for IBob
> Jerseys from Portland Cyclewear.  Truth is, I am not a jersey wearer.
> I wound up wearing this about 3 or 4 times then relegated it to the
> back of my closet (dry cleaned first).  I was about to send it to the
> Patagonia clothing recycling bin when it occurred to me someone here
> might want it.
>
> There is no size tag on it, but I am right between medium and large
> and this fits well.  It is medium blue with cream stripes and middle
> panel.  In the front there is an IBob logo in a oval that says
> Bridgestone Owners Bunch on top, Cycling Lore & Tradition on the
> bottom, 19 on the right side, 94 on the left side.
>
> UPS ground and envelope should come to about $8.00.
>
> If interested, contact off group and I can send my paypal account.
>
> Heading out for the next 7 hours or so.  Will get back to anyone
> tonight.
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[RBW] Re: Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey

[JoelMatthews]

Claimed.  Thank you all for your interest in giving this jersey a
happy home.

On Apr 19, 10:01 am, Sarah Gibson  wrote:
> joel
> this jersey still available?
> if so ill take er offn yr hands
> thanks
> peace
>
> well behaved women rarely make history
> _ride yr friggin bicycle_
>
> > Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:59:50 -0700
> > Subject: [RBW] Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey
> > From: joelmatth...@mac.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > Couple years ago when I was on the IBob (is there an e-mail box big
> > enough to handle the volume?) I joined a one time group order for IBob
> > Jerseys from Portland Cyclewear.  Truth is, I am not a jersey wearer.
> > I wound up wearing this about 3 or 4 times then relegated it to the
> > back of my closet (dry cleaned first).  I was about to send it to the
> > Patagonia clothing recycling bin when it occurred to me someone here
> > might want it.
>
> > There is no size tag on it, but I am right between medium and large
> > and this fits well.  It is medium blue with cream stripes and middle
> > panel.  In the front there is an IBob logo in a oval that says
> > Bridgestone Owners Bunch on top, Cycling Lore & Tradition on the
> > bottom, 19 on the right side, 94 on the left side.
>
> > UPS ground and envelope should come to about $8.00.
>
> > If interested, contact off group and I can send my paypal account.
>
> > Heading out for the next 7 hours or so.  Will get back to anyone
> > tonight.
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[RBW] Re: Riv Ride

[Joe Bartoe]

Hi Doug,

We have a sick one at home. Not the same one. The other one. Anyway, I wasn't 
able to make it to the start of the ride, but thought I'd try and find you 
guys. I wanted to get in some hills so I headed out from my place and headed 
over to Ortega Highway and then up Antonio Parkway. Man, it was windy going up 
Antonio! I went up to Santa Margarita Parkway (it was 92 degrees when I got 
there. Geez!). I made a left and head up SM Pkwy toward El Toro, figuring I 
might be able to find you on your route. I headed up and up until I got to 
Cook's Corner, but not Riv group. I turned right and headed back toward Rancho 
Santa Margarita via the canyon. Once I got back to SM Pkwy it was 95 degrees! I 
headed back down Antonio. The wind had changed so I didn't have the nice 
tailwind that I would have expected. I couldn't wait to get back down to the 
coast. My head was beginning to hurt from dehydration. Close to 6o miles total 
after a short out and back into San Clemente. Not too shabby, but it would have 
been nice to see you guys. I was even on the AHH.

Hope you ride went well. Sorry I missed it!

Joe

From: dougpn...@cox.net
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
CC: ccroy2...@yahoo.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 15:47:10 -0700

























Joe:

 

Sunday, April 19.  Meet at the Irvine train station (Barranca & Ada)
around 9 and ride by 9:30.  Santiago Cyn plus a detour to the start-finish
line of the ’84 Olympic road course in MV.  We’ll throw in a
couple of dirt options (Peters Cyn and a cut thru Whiting Ranch) that parallel
the course so people can either stick to pavement or get dirty and still end up
together.  Total distance around 40 miles.  We may have some guys
coming from LA & not sure if they’ll drive or Metrolink.  Check
the Flickr site for any last minute updates or changes:

 

http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157615635262368/

 

Hope you can make it.  Everything is green now.  From
now on, So Cal’s only gonna get drier and “more golden”. 


 

dougP

 









From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joe Bartoe

Sent: Friday, April 17, 2009 10:33
AM

To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Subject: [RBW] Riv Ride



 



Hi Doug,



This weekend is the Riv ride. What day, time. place? I'm trying to figure out
if I can make it work.



Joe







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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Subject: [RBW] Re: noodle bars

Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 19:44:50 -0700



Patrick makes an important point.  Bars, saddles and
pedals all work together.  Your entire weight is supported on your butt,
two feet and two hands, and distributed among those 5 points.  Toss in
medical constraints (back, knees, wrists, etc.) and it’s a multi-variate
challenge.  Love my Noodles, Brooks, and Grip Kings (sounds like I been
hitting the kool aid!) but as well as they satisfy my needs, that combo may be
a torture rack for someone else.  This is how we all wind up with a shop
full of bike parts after a few years cycling.  

 

FS: Half dozen each h’bars, seats and stems. 
Large selection; make offer J.

 

dougP

 









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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE

Sent: Thursday, April 16, 2009
6:48 PM

To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

Subject: [RBW] Re: noodle bars



 



Don: I wasn't pooh pooh-ing them, just expressing another opinion on my own
behalf. I'm glad you find them comfortable!



On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Donald Compton 
wrote:





patrick,

i agree about saddle position, but my case is unique. i have rotated scoliosis,
degenerate disc disease, and severe arthritis. if i sit too upright, i put too
much pressure on my lower back, so, i try to balance my position on my bike
between too low and too high. i do a lot of core work and upper body work in
the gym to compensate for my situation. everybody is different.

don





--- On Thu, 4/16/09, PATRICK MOORE 
wrote:



> From: PATRICK MOORE 

> Subject: [RBW] Re: noodle bars

> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

> Date: Thursday, April 16, 2009, 6:20 PM





> On Thu, Apr 16, 2009
at 4:21 PM, Doug Peterson

>  wrote:

>

> >

> > Don:

> >

> > No good discovery goes unpunished.  Once you've

> Noodled, you can't go back.

>

>

> I tried Noodles and didn't like them; too deep and too

> long. I replaced them

> with similarly wide Salsa Bell Laps which I find much more

> to my liking.

> This is for my mountain bike. They are far too wide for my

> road bikes.

>

> As for the ramp, the Nitto 185s have a very short and --

> since I obey Heaven

> and keep my hooks perfectly level -- very slanted ramp, but

> that doesn't

> bother me (and I don't wear  gloves); I think, once

> again, that the

> principal key to hand comfort is saddle position.

>

>

> --

> Patrick Moore

> Albuquerque, NM

> Profe

[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[mitchelr]

In sight, 100 Decibel Aerostich motion sensor cable lock 4 ozs.

On Apr 18, 10:30 pm, William Henderson 
wrote:
> If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less.  If the
> former, no explanation needed or wanted.
>
> Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock -
> two sometimes)
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[PATRICK MOORE]

All of these methods require that you are *not* using a brake that mounts to
a bolt running through the crown, right?

Too bad, because they seem like very good solutions if your bike has cantis,
V-brakes or discs.

Is there any similar method that would allow the plug to have two holes
offset to either side of such a central brake mounting bolt? I can't think
of one myself ...

I wonder if one could rivet a tight "U" clamp widthwise across the fender
through which the brake mounting bolt could run? You'd have to get your
measurements right, since I can see no way of adjusting the fit once
everything is together.

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Ken Yokanovich <
reflector.collec...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> That's a GREAT IDEA.  So long as it were set high enough that one
> could use the hole in the fork crown if needed it'd be secure and
> obscure.  I like it!
>
> On Apr 19, 12:26 pm, Eric Daume  wrote:
> > You could also use a star fangled nut hammered into the bottom of the
> > steerer tube. That's not coming out.
> >
> > Eric D
> > Dublin, OH
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Ken Yokanovich <
> >
> > reflector.collec...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks...
> >
> > > The fender spacer for the fork was an interesting little project.  I
> > > had an OLD threadless stem from which I cut an approximately 1cm ring
> > > from.  I then scalloped the shape using a half-round file to match the
> > > arc of the fender. I then finished the shape by wrapping progressively
> > > finer sand paper over the protected fender itself to match the final
> > > shape.  It's cut a little shorter toward the front of the fender.  I
> > > have successfully mounted this fender (and others before it) using a
> > > Velox bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  The fatter "collar" of
> > > the bar end plug makes a nice "pad" if the fender is pulled up tight
> > > against the crown.  In this case, the collar of the Velox plug fit
> > > just inside the aluminum spacer keeping things nice and centered.  I
> > > use a much longer bolt, as well as a second wedge from another screw-
> > > type bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  It's VERY tight, and the
> > > wide base of the "spacer" makes for a VERY stable front fender.
> >
> > > I briefly considered using the expanding wedge from a bar-end shifter,
> > > but did not have a bolt long enough or of the correct threading to
> > > work.  Going this route, I'd be assured that it would be even more
> > > secure.  As things are, the fit is tight enough and difficult enough
> > > to remove that I am not worried about the fender coming loose or
> > > dropping out of the hole.
> >
> > > On Apr 19, 11:10 am, JL  wrote:
> > > > Nice!   I have always thought yellow was a good bike color.  That
> fork
> > > > crown fender spacer looks great.
> >
>


-- 
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[PATRICK MOORE]

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM, Neil  wrote:

>
> U-lock frame and front wheel. No worries.
>
> Rivendell's look like Univegas to the public (at least my lowly Rom
> does). Once a Riv owner gets
> around this fact, locking up in the city is no worries.


Which city?

I've locked my commuter Riv up in certain public settings using U lock for
rear wheel and rear triangle, and cable around everything, but I'd not want
to trust this for extended periods in other areas; this is Albuquerque, NM
which is *relatively* benign.

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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[Neil]

U-lock frame and front wheel. No worries.

Rivendell's look like Univegas to the public (at least my lowly Rom
does). Once a Riv owner gets
around this fact, locking up in the city is no worries.


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[RBW] Re: looking for a fast bike, where should I go.

[Phil B]

Hey Brewster -

Thanks for the Gary Helfrich's words on Ti. And yes affordability is
good on the used stuff.

> Urban
> Mythology
> surrounding bikes made from radioactive Russian titanium.  Most of the
> recovered material became golf driver heads."
>
> I agree with Jim that if you are looking for a used bicycle or frame,
> titanium is the bargain! I've seen Serotta Legends, Litespeed Vortex,
> Merlin Extralights and others including the newer Lemond ti frames
> sell for anywhere from $500-1000 for frameset (usually with a carbon
> fork and headset). A great deal.
>
> The problem titanium has is its trying to compete with carbon on
> weight and well, let's face it, if weight is the main/only factor
> you're looking at, and most rec riders do, then carbon is the winner.
> Don't be afraid to look at a used ti frame, there are great deals out
> there. Brewster
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[Ken Yokanovich]

That's a GREAT IDEA.  So long as it were set high enough that one
could use the hole in the fork crown if needed it'd be secure and
obscure.  I like it!

On Apr 19, 12:26 pm, Eric Daume  wrote:
> You could also use a star fangled nut hammered into the bottom of the
> steerer tube. That's not coming out.
>
> Eric D
> Dublin, OH
>
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Ken Yokanovich <
>
> reflector.collec...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks...
>
> > The fender spacer for the fork was an interesting little project.  I
> > had an OLD threadless stem from which I cut an approximately 1cm ring
> > from.  I then scalloped the shape using a half-round file to match the
> > arc of the fender. I then finished the shape by wrapping progressively
> > finer sand paper over the protected fender itself to match the final
> > shape.  It's cut a little shorter toward the front of the fender.  I
> > have successfully mounted this fender (and others before it) using a
> > Velox bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  The fatter "collar" of
> > the bar end plug makes a nice "pad" if the fender is pulled up tight
> > against the crown.  In this case, the collar of the Velox plug fit
> > just inside the aluminum spacer keeping things nice and centered.  I
> > use a much longer bolt, as well as a second wedge from another screw-
> > type bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  It's VERY tight, and the
> > wide base of the "spacer" makes for a VERY stable front fender.
>
> > I briefly considered using the expanding wedge from a bar-end shifter,
> > but did not have a bolt long enough or of the correct threading to
> > work.  Going this route, I'd be assured that it would be even more
> > secure.  As things are, the fit is tight enough and difficult enough
> > to remove that I am not worried about the fender coming loose or
> > dropping out of the hole.
>
> > On Apr 19, 11:10 am, JL  wrote:
> > > Nice!   I have always thought yellow was a good bike color.  That fork
> > > crown fender spacer looks great.
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[Eric Daume]

You could also use a star fangled nut hammered into the bottom of the
steerer tube. That's not coming out.

Eric D
Dublin, OH

On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Ken Yokanovich <
reflector.collec...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Thanks...
>
> The fender spacer for the fork was an interesting little project.  I
> had an OLD threadless stem from which I cut an approximately 1cm ring
> from.  I then scalloped the shape using a half-round file to match the
> arc of the fender. I then finished the shape by wrapping progressively
> finer sand paper over the protected fender itself to match the final
> shape.  It's cut a little shorter toward the front of the fender.  I
> have successfully mounted this fender (and others before it) using a
> Velox bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  The fatter "collar" of
> the bar end plug makes a nice "pad" if the fender is pulled up tight
> against the crown.  In this case, the collar of the Velox plug fit
> just inside the aluminum spacer keeping things nice and centered.  I
> use a much longer bolt, as well as a second wedge from another screw-
> type bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  It's VERY tight, and the
> wide base of the "spacer" makes for a VERY stable front fender.
>
> I briefly considered using the expanding wedge from a bar-end shifter,
> but did not have a bolt long enough or of the correct threading to
> work.  Going this route, I'd be assured that it would be even more
> secure.  As things are, the fit is tight enough and difficult enough
> to remove that I am not worried about the fender coming loose or
> dropping out of the hole.
>
> On Apr 19, 11:10 am, JL  wrote:
> > Nice!   I have always thought yellow was a good bike color.  That fork
> > crown fender spacer looks great.
> >
>

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[RBW] Re: Upside Down Albatross Bars

[Ken Yokanovich]

Chris, looks sharp.  I cannot ride using a Albatross or Moustache bar
for much longer than about a 50miler.  I do have Albatross bars on two
different bikes (including a tandem) and like them for what they are.

On Apr 19, 11:00 am, Chris Halasz  wrote:
> Mounted the A-Bars topside down, and am liking the feel.
>
> See:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/3456027280/in/set-72157610...
>
> Rightside up was great, but I couldn't use the center section near the
> stem properly, as it was too far down.
>
> With the setup shown, bar ends are about 1cm below saddle top, but the
> drop is compensated by the close proximity to the saddle.
>
> At the hoods, which is close to where they'd be on drop bars with a
> 3cm shorter stem, they are about 1cm higher than the saddle top.
>
> Then, at the center, which was a stretch with the rightside up
> mounting, the bars are about 3cm above saddle. Nice! Likewise, the
> shallower 'S' of the Albatross provides more hand width to rest near
> the stem than a Moustache bar.
>
> Compare:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/3455206329/in/set-72157610...
>
> with (Cyclotourist's):
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3436507272/in/set-721576165...
>
> Off for a 40 miler ...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Chris
> Tucson, AZ
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[Ken Yokanovich]

Thanks...

The fender spacer for the fork was an interesting little project.  I
had an OLD threadless stem from which I cut an approximately 1cm ring
from.  I then scalloped the shape using a half-round file to match the
arc of the fender. I then finished the shape by wrapping progressively
finer sand paper over the protected fender itself to match the final
shape.  It's cut a little shorter toward the front of the fender.  I
have successfully mounted this fender (and others before it) using a
Velox bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  The fatter "collar" of
the bar end plug makes a nice "pad" if the fender is pulled up tight
against the crown.  In this case, the collar of the Velox plug fit
just inside the aluminum spacer keeping things nice and centered.  I
use a much longer bolt, as well as a second wedge from another screw-
type bar plug stuck up into the steer tube.  It's VERY tight, and the
wide base of the "spacer" makes for a VERY stable front fender.

I briefly considered using the expanding wedge from a bar-end shifter,
but did not have a bolt long enough or of the correct threading to
work.  Going this route, I'd be assured that it would be even more
secure.  As things are, the fit is tight enough and difficult enough
to remove that I am not worried about the fender coming loose or
dropping out of the hole.

On Apr 19, 11:10 am, JL  wrote:
> Nice!   I have always thought yellow was a good bike color.  That fork
> crown fender spacer looks great.
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[Kevin Turinsky]

Great looking Atlantis, Ken!
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[Ken Yokanovich]

Eric, sorry I wasn't more social at Hiawatha on Saturday.  I do owe it
to Jim for having IN-STOCK parts that I wanted to finish the bike.
He's got a really great little shop, worth the trip out of the way to
pick things up. It really is pretty interesting to see just how many
Rivendell-related bicycles there are in our "neighborhood."  I see a
gentleman with a VERY tall blue Ramb riding on Como Avenue quite
frequently, a couple of Quickbeam spottings here and there too.  It'd
be fun to have an organized "get-together" fall-S24O/ride up to the
Group Camp at William O'Brien state park or something?!

On Apr 19, 7:10 am, EricP  wrote:
> Nice to see it built up.  Saw the back of the frame when you brought
> it in to Hiawatha last Saturday.  That's a really cool color.  And
> this from a guy who actually likes the stock color of his Atlantis.
>
> Put me in the category of really jealous.  Of course, you'll be easier
> to spot if you ride by me.
>
> (As an aside - it's amazing how many folks in our area of town have
> Rivendell bikes.  And I am including both Ken and Bill C. as "our
> area'.)
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Apr 18, 5:37 pm, Ken Yokanovich 
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to Karl M for the link to an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in
> > Austin, TX... He posted the message and I didn't hesitate... I am the
> > proud new owner! It arrived last week and I finished putting it
> > together on Tuesday of this week. I rode it to work and back on
> > Wednesday, Thursday, and a longer way out of the way ride to work and
> > back on Friday. Quick photos here:
>
> >http://picasaweb.google.com/reflector.collector/Atlantis?feat=directl...
>
> > Details on the build can be found 
> > here:http://reflectorcollector.blogspot.com/2009/04/its-alive.html
>
> > Glad to be part of the Atlantis-owners bunch.
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[Ken Yokanovich]

I think I owe most of the credit for the quick commitment to my VERY
understanding wife.  I called her just after 6am as soon as I got to
work to make sure I did not have to back out of my commitment to buy
the bike.  Furthermore, she understood just how badly that I wanted
it, enough to chase down the FedEx delivery man on Good Friday at the
FedEx terminal to PICK-UP the package because we had missed the
delivery!  She's not interested in riding, so I think my next purchase
will have to be at the jewelry store ;)

I'm a self-admitted "bag-matcher."   (The first step to recovery is
admitting that one has a problem, right?) I thought about matching bar-
tape to the saddle, but the saddle is really reserved for another
upcoming project so I am simply using the honey for the time-being on
the Atlantis.  I have a nicely aging honey B17 TI on my Rivendell All-
Rounder.  Variety is the spice of life, so I thought that I might just
try something different.

The front deraileur is a FD-5504.  Ideally, it would be adjusted
lower.  FWIW, I think that the next "Silver" branded component should
be a front deraileur compatible with smaller front rings and low BB
drop!  Talk about a niche product?!

On Apr 18, 9:39 pm, "Doug Peterson"  wrote:
> Ken:
>
> Congrats on getting it together and especially on pulling the trigger so
> quickly.  You got the deal of a lifetime.  I have an Atlantis (stock color)
> and from time to time get the coupling urge (like when I'm packing for a
> trip).  Last time I checked, couplers plus paint didn't get much change back
> from a $1,000 bill.  
> Your front fender spacer looks really cool, nice work.  Do know which 105 FD
> you have?  Maybe a part number?  I have one and can't get it low enough to
> work as well as I'd like with a 44T big ring.  This is with a Sugino triple
> - 24/34/44.  
> Black saddle?  H... maybe bar tape to match the honey?  Just a thought.
>
> If one of your other projects come thru and you "need" to sell this bike,
> don't bother listing anywhere, just contact me directly, don't mess around
> with the riff-raff on this site, CL, or, heaven forbid, flea-bay.
>
> dougP
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ken Yokanovich
> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 3:37 PM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] My New-To-Me Atlantis
>
> Thanks to Karl M for the link to an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in
> Austin, TX... He posted the message and I didn't hesitate... I am the
> proud new owner!  It arrived last week and I finished putting it
> together on Tuesday of this week.  I rode it to work and back on
> Wednesday, Thursday, and a longer way out of the way ride to work and
> back on Friday.  Quick photos here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/reflector.collector/Atlantis?feat=directl...
> 6143315765235826
>
> Details on the build can be found 
> here:http://reflectorcollector.blogspot.com/2009/04/its-alive.html
>
> Glad to be part of the Atlantis-owners bunch.
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[Rick]

I've got a mini on-guard cable that loops through the seat and baggins
bag, and am using the Zefal skewers.  With that, mini u-lock.

In areas where I'm going to be seconds away from the bike, I've used a
beretta trigger-lock that I picked up somewhere or another.  It's
light enough to go in my bag all the time, but is only a deterrent for
the opportunist, not a real bicycle thief.  But maybe the thief would
assume (incorrectly) from the beretta logo that I'm nearby and packing
heat?
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[JL]

Mini U lock.   Parked in line of sight.


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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[JL]

Nice!   I have always thought yellow was a good bike color.  That fork
crown fender spacer looks great.


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[RBW] Upside Down Albatross Bars

[Chris Halasz]

Mounted the A-Bars topside down, and am liking the feel.

See:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/3456027280/in/set-72157610326961535/

Rightside up was great, but I couldn't use the center section near the
stem properly, as it was too far down.

With the setup shown, bar ends are about 1cm below saddle top, but the
drop is compensated by the close proximity to the saddle.

At the hoods, which is close to where they'd be on drop bars with a
3cm shorter stem, they are about 1cm higher than the saddle top.

Then, at the center, which was a stretch with the rightside up
mounting, the bars are about 3cm above saddle. Nice! Likewise, the
shallower 'S' of the Albatross provides more hand width to rest near
the stem than a Moustache bar.

Compare:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/3455206329/in/set-72157610326961535/

with (Cyclotourist's):

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3436507272/in/set-72157616594639367/

Off for a 40 miler ...

Cheers,

Chris
Tucson, AZ
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[RBW] Stitching an An-Atomica Titanico

[Chris Halasz]

If your most excellent Selle An-Atomica Titanico interferes, in the
mid-section, with your most wonderfully developed adductors, or, for
that matter, if it's too unsupported in the middle, you may want to
check out my An-Atomica stitched modification instruction:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sea-fisherman/3455206389/in/set-72157606678980740/

We've done this now with two of the saddles, and find it improved the
already excellent experience.

Cheers,

Chris
Tucson, AZ
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[RBW] Re: Trade My 63 cm Canti-Rom for your 65 cm Redwood (or similar)?

[Kelly]

I saw this craigslist posting today, thought I'd post it here.

http://boston.craigslist.org/bmw/bik/1121953066.html

On Apr 18, 7:30 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> Any interest out there? How about for a 66 cm Rambouillet?
>
>
>
> Longshot I know,
>
>
>
> James
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[beth h]

Good lock, crummy paint, stickers.

Beth
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[RBW] "kc rides" a call for artists

[Sarah Gibson]

some of you may have already seen this on facebook

but wanted to make sure i didnt miss anyone

who may want to be involved

and dont forget

we are still taking film entries as well

the deadline for film is july 31st

please feel free to contact me

if you have any questions

and please pass along to anyone else 

you think may want to be involved



thanks

peace




"kc rides" the art show is a juried exhibition. Submissions can include
artwork in any medium with a bicycle theme or "art bikes" (functional,
artist bikes). Spare bike parts and frames are available for inclusion
in artwork at acme bicycle company, 412 East 18th Street, Kansas City
Missouri, 816 221 2045. Artwork can be delivered to acme bicycle
company Tuesday thru Saturday 11a-5p. SUBMISSION DEADLINE is AUGUST 22.
Artwork not included in the show can be picked up after August 22nd. 

"kc
rides" the artshow is a benefit for the Greater Kansas City Bicycle
Federation: your local non-profit(501-c3) bicycle advocacy group. The
Greater Kansas Ciy Bicycle Federation's mission is to advance bicycling
as a viable means of transportation in the greater Kansas City area.
All work submitted is done so on a donation basis. All accepted work
will be auctioned at the end of the event with proceeds going to
benefit the Greater Kansas City Bicycle Federations local bicycle
programs, including the free light program, the free bicycles and parts
program, repair instruction for low income and homeless of Kansas City,
among others.


well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
 





well behaved women rarely make history
_ride yr friggin bicycle_
 



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[RBW] Re: Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey

[Sarah Gibson]

joel
this jersey still available?
if so ill take er offn yr hands
thanks
peace



well behaved women rarely make history
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> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 07:59:50 -0700
> Subject: [RBW] Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey
> From: joelmatth...@mac.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> 
> Couple years ago when I was on the IBob (is there an e-mail box big
> enough to handle the volume?) I joined a one time group order for IBob
> Jerseys from Portland Cyclewear.  Truth is, I am not a jersey wearer.
> I wound up wearing this about 3 or 4 times then relegated it to the
> back of my closet (dry cleaned first).  I was about to send it to the
> Patagonia clothing recycling bin when it occurred to me someone here
> might want it.
> 
> There is no size tag on it, but I am right between medium and large
> and this fits well.  It is medium blue with cream stripes and middle
> panel.  In the front there is an IBob logo in a oval that says
> Bridgestone Owners Bunch on top, Cycling Lore & Tradition on the
> bottom, 19 on the right side, 94 on the left side.
> 
> UPS ground and envelope should come to about $8.00.
> 
> If interested, contact off group and I can send my paypal account.
> 
> Heading out for the next 7 hours or so.  Will get back to anyone
> tonight.
> > 

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[RBW] Free - You Pay Shipping: Blue/Cream Merino Wool IBob Jersey

[JoelMatthews]

Couple years ago when I was on the IBob (is there an e-mail box big
enough to handle the volume?) I joined a one time group order for IBob
Jerseys from Portland Cyclewear.  Truth is, I am not a jersey wearer.
I wound up wearing this about 3 or 4 times then relegated it to the
back of my closet (dry cleaned first).  I was about to send it to the
Patagonia clothing recycling bin when it occurred to me someone here
might want it.

There is no size tag on it, but I am right between medium and large
and this fits well.  It is medium blue with cream stripes and middle
panel.  In the front there is an IBob logo in a oval that says
Bridgestone Owners Bunch on top, Cycling Lore & Tradition on the
bottom, 19 on the right side, 94 on the left side.

UPS ground and envelope should come to about $8.00.

If interested, contact off group and I can send my paypal account.

Heading out for the next 7 hours or so.  Will get back to anyone
tonight.
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[RBW] WTB- TA Zephyr 185mm Crankset or Arms

[Garth]

Greetings,

  I'm in need of a TA Zephyr in 185mm !

  I know my odds are about one in a million, but it only takes one. I
have a set for my road bike but I need some for a Bombadil. I realize
there is the Carmina in 185, but it's not a Zephyr. The Zephyr is
about as good as it gets for it's type.

Thanks, Garth
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[Mike]

You're stoked. Nice bike.

On Apr 18, 3:37 pm, Ken Yokanovich 
wrote:
> Thanks to Karl M for the link to an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in
> Austin, TX... He posted the message and I didn't hesitate... I am the
> proud new owner!  It arrived last week and I finished putting it
> together on Tuesday of this week.  I rode it to work and back on
> Wednesday, Thursday, and a longer way out of the way ride to work and
> back on Friday.  Quick photos here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/reflector.collector/Atlantis?feat=directl...
>
> Details on the build can be found 
> here:http://reflectorcollector.blogspot.com/2009/04/its-alive.html
>
> Glad to be part of the Atlantis-owners bunch.
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[RBW] Re: trekking bar question

[clayton]

I bought the ITM Selego. It weighed tons. Very heavy! I didn't even
try to install them after trying to slide them into my Nitto dirt
drop. The loop end was too tight to make it through the bar hole. I
sent them back for a refund. Did I mention the ITM bar is extremely
heavy? Shockingly heavy?  Decades ago, I used Scott AT2 and AT3 bars
and loved them.

Clayton

On Apr 18, 9:51 am, Dave Minyard  wrote:
> I was wondering if any one in this group has tried any of the trekking style 
> bars that are available? I am most wondering about the adjustable ones like 
> the Modolo Dumbos or ITM Selego? I understand that the Selegos are no longer 
> available but thought maybe someone out there had tried them.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dave Minyard
>
> Santa Maria, Ca.
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[Len Lescosky]

Pitlocks including saddle pit and mini U-lock

or

Mini U-lock and independent cable lock for wheels.

Len in Atlanta
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[EricP]

Commute - second bike.  Future - Hillborne, locked up tight (pitlocks,
Fahgettaboudit).

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 19, 12:30�am, William Henderson 
wrote:
> If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less. �If the
> former, no explanation needed or wanted.
>
> Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock -
> two sometimes)
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[RBW] Re: My New-To-Me Atlantis

[EricP]

Nice to see it built up.  Saw the back of the frame when you brought
it in to Hiawatha last Saturday.  That's a really cool color.  And
this from a guy who actually likes the stock color of his Atlantis.

Put me in the category of really jealous.  Of course, you'll be easier
to spot if you ride by me.

(As an aside - it's amazing how many folks in our area of town have
Rivendell bikes.  And I am including both Ken and Bill C. as "our
area'.)


Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 18, 5:37�pm, Ken Yokanovich 
wrote:
> Thanks to Karl M for the link to an Atlantis for sale on Craigslist in
> Austin, TX... He posted the message and I didn't hesitate... I am the
> proud new owner! �It arrived last week and I finished putting it
> together on Tuesday of this week. �I rode it to work and back on
> Wednesday, Thursday, and a longer way out of the way ride to work and
> back on Friday. �Quick photos here:
>
> http://picasaweb.google.com/reflector.collector/Atlantis?feat=directl...
>
> Details on the build can be found 
> here:http://reflectorcollector.blogspot.com/2009/04/its-alive.html
>
> Glad to be part of the Atlantis-owners bunch.
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[RBW] Re: Your Riv and the city: lock up tight or second bike?

[JoelMatthews]

Abus U Lock and Chain.  Pitlock Skewers.  Also use a kickstand.  Avoid
dings from unnecessary falls.

On Apr 19, 12:30 am, William Henderson 
wrote:
> If the former, perhaps list your setup in 10 words or less.  If the
> former, no explanation needed or wanted.
>
> Myself: lock up tight (pitlocks, old chain 'round the seat, ulock -
> two sometimes)
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