[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

2009-05-15 Thread Bruce
David:

All paved road, though of varying degrees of smoothness.





From: David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 11:30:15 PM
Subject: [RBW] Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

Bruce, are those miles on/off road or road only?


  
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[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you

2009-05-15 Thread Bruce
Maybe a taped and shellacked kickstand with twine ends?





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Subject: [RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you


so, like, what WOULD a Rivendell merit badge look like?  Ideas?  Not
the RBW logo.


  
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[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you

2009-05-15 Thread Bruce
I have the patch for doing that trip.  Aside from the merit badges, you can 
earn 50 mile patches for both hiking (got that one too for a week long backpack 
on the Long Trail in VT) and cycling. (Both cases as an adult leader with the 
boys.





From: k5osx1 k5o...@gmail.com
T
I'm a little shocked to see that the scout is required to plan *and  
then ride* a 50 mile trip. I don't recall doing that ...


  
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[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

2009-05-15 Thread Angus

David,

My 700x32 Paselas measure 30mm wide and Ruffy Tuffy's measure 26.5mm
wide, both on 20mm wide rims.

Angus

On May 14, 11:30 pm, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Bruce, are those miles on/off road or road only?

 I'm looking for 30mm tire that is good for both and doesn't disintegrate in
 my garage or puncture every 10 miles.  Probably should stick w/ Paselas, but
 I want just a bit more volume than 28mm, and 32/33mm tires are just too
 close... 30mm is the sweet spot!





 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:
  I'm over 1,000 miles on my GB Cypres. No flats, etc. Still love em.

  --
  *From:* GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com
  *To:* RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:12:38 PM
  *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

  I just put a pair of Grand Bois on my Rambouillet.  So far so good.
  They have a springier feel than the Ruffy Tuffys.  But now you've got
  me worried.  Who is Gino and what terrible things has he said about
  these expensive tires?
  GeorgeS

 --
 Cheers,
 David
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[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

2009-05-15 Thread palincss

Quoting David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com:

 Bruce, are those miles on/off road or road only?

 I'm looking for 30mm tire that is good for both and doesn't disintegrate in
 my garage or puncture every 10 miles.  Probably should stick w/ Paselas, but
 I want just a bit more volume than 28mm, and 32/33mm tires are just too
 close... 30mm is the sweet spot!

Then you will love the 32mm wire bead non-TG Pasela.  It is exactly  
the same size as the Grand Bois 700x30mm.  I had them on my VO all  
winter, took them off and reinstalled the GB's on Tuesday.




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[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

2009-05-15 Thread Garth

David,


   What rim are you using?  We need to know because every tire is
slightly different width depending on the rim. A 28mm tire is not just
28mm. I wish manufacturers would say when they give a tires width
it's xx mm's wide on a xx mm wide rim.

 That said, after 3 or 4 pairs of tires separating..
David ...it's time for a new tire!  They don't appear to be ruff
or tuff, so. unless you're a glutton for disappointment, stop
putting up with them!  You gave them more than a fair shot time
for a change.

 I know what you're asking for is tough. what you'd like is a
bunch of tires at your disposal to mount and see how wide and much
volume they have. yes?

My first thought is  Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They
come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI. http://tinyurl.com/rxrucg
They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why
they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall
apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown
in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too,
but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance!  I
use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved
and back roads. Loads of Air volume.

Or just stick with a Pasela 32.

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[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

2009-05-15 Thread Garth

David,


   What rim are you using?  We need to know because every tire is
slightly different width depending on the rim. A 28mm tire is not just
28mm. I wish manufacturers would say when they give a tires width
it's xx mm's wide on a xx mm wide rim.

 That said, after 3 or 4 pairs of tires separating..
David ...it's time for a new tire!  They don't appear to be ruff
or tuff, so. unless you're a glutton for disappointment, stop
putting up with them!  You gave them more than a fair shot time
for a change.

 I know what you're asking for is tough. what you'd like is a
bunch of tires at your disposal to mount and see how wide and much
volume they have. yes?

My first thought is  Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They
come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at REI. 
http://www.rei.com/product/709112
They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why
they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall
apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown
in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too,
but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance!  I
use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved
and back roads. Loads of Air volume.

Or just stick with a Pasela 32.
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[RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

2009-05-15 Thread Frederick, Steve
Nice!  What's that bartape?
 
Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

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[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Clayton Scott
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:27 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam


Here is mine: 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3531333592_b8e188e79b_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3530244832_e00cceafb4_b.jpg



On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Rene Valbuena  valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:



Hey Brian,

You must really be a complete marketing man to the bone.

More power to you and to Renaissance Bicycles.

Rene

BTW: do you still shoot film or solely digital? As for me, I still keep a
Nikon F2S with 43mm~86mm zoom for sentimental reasons.


-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @ Renaissance
Bicycles

Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:08 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch

Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam


Hey Rene,

I am the photographer and mastermind of the whole operation.

Thanks for the complements,

Bryan

On May 13, 12:56 pm, Rene Valbuena  valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 Very nice bike!

 Who is your photographer?

 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

 [mailto: rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
Renaissance
 Bicycles
 Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:48 AM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch
 Subject: [RBW] Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

 While it has taken us a little while to get around to it, we finally
 published some photos of the new silver Quickbeam:

 http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/

 As I wrote about previously, this is my much anticipated personal
 bike ... and I am very very satisfied.  I think the silver color is
 fabulous ... it definitely gives the bike a real retro appearance.
 You may also notice that the bike is lacking the seattube decal ...
 which is the way it arrived.  Fine by me.

 Obviously, I went for the subtle / classic look with the black Brooks
 B17 narrow saddle, black Cinelli cork tape, practical dual-duty
 Shimano pedals, and a black Bike Burrito.  Soon to come is the
 complementary Shimano 16t freewheel, a pair of classic VO bottle
 cages, and the new silver Planet Bike Superflash.

 I've ridden it about 30+ miles so far, so it still needs a little fine-
 tuning and a few adjustments.  Of course, the ride is wonderful; very
 good at low speeds, confident in high-speed turns, smooth over the
 rough stuff, and just a real comfortable riding position.

 Let me know if you have any questions about the parts, build, or
 details of the Quickbeam ... I'll be happy to share.

 Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles













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[RBW] Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread Garth

Greetings,


I'm considering a Big Apple or Marathon XR in a 700x50 size, and
wondered about the differences in gearing compared to a 700x35 tire,
which I use on another bike.  I can see how the gear inches change by
the gear charts for different size tires, but what affect does the
extra width and heft have, if any, in real world riding?

 A 2 tooth reduction seems to be where I'm going from my road bike
using a 13-32 7 speed freewheel.


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[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

2009-05-15 Thread Seth Vidal

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:11 AM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:
 Everyone, thanks for the feedback.  32mm Paselas that measure 30mm sound
 great.  Strange as my 35mm Paselas measure out at 37mm  Consistency???
 We don't need no stinkin' consistency!

 FWIW, this is on an Open Pro rim.


Wallbike has started compiling a list of sizes of schwalbe tires on
various rims. Might be a useful thing to compile on the list. Maybe a
shared google spread sheet?

Then someone could go reference whatever size/type rim they have and
the tire they want and they could find the right size.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

2009-05-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Bar tape is Fizik microtex in gray. So far it seems nice. It is thinner than
cork and appears less fragile.
Clayton, SF CA

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Frederick, Steve frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu
 wrote:

  Nice!  What's that bartape?

 Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

 -Original Message-
 *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *Clayton Scott
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:27 PM
 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

 Here is mine:
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3531333592_b8e188e79b_b.jpg

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3530244832_e00cceafb4_b.jpg



 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.comwrote:


 Hey Brian,

 You must really be a complete marketing man to the bone.

 More power to you and to Renaissance Bicycles.

 Rene

 BTW: do you still shoot film or solely digital? As for me, I still keep a
 Nikon F2S with 43mm~86mm zoom for sentimental reasons.

 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
 Renaissance
 Bicycles
 Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:08 AM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch
  Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam


 Hey Rene,

 I am the photographer and mastermind of the whole operation.

 Thanks for the complements,

 Bryan

 On May 13, 12:56 pm, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  Very nice bike!
 
  Who is your photographer?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
  [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
 Renaissance
  Bicycles
  Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:48 AM
  To: RBW Owners Bunch
  Subject: [RBW] Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam
 
  While it has taken us a little while to get around to it, we finally
  published some photos of the new silver Quickbeam:
 
  http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/
 
  As I wrote about previously, this is my much anticipated personal
  bike ... and I am very very satisfied.  I think the silver color is
  fabulous ... it definitely gives the bike a real retro appearance.
  You may also notice that the bike is lacking the seattube decal ...
  which is the way it arrived.  Fine by me.
 
  Obviously, I went for the subtle / classic look with the black Brooks
  B17 narrow saddle, black Cinelli cork tape, practical dual-duty
  Shimano pedals, and a black Bike Burrito.  Soon to come is the
  complementary Shimano 16t freewheel, a pair of classic VO bottle
  cages, and the new silver Planet Bike Superflash.
 
  I've ridden it about 30+ miles so far, so it still needs a little fine-
  tuning and a few adjustments.  Of course, the ride is wonderful; very
  good at low speeds, confident in high-speed turns, smooth over the
  rough stuff, and just a real comfortable riding position.
 
  Let me know if you have any questions about the parts, build, or
  details of the Quickbeam ... I'll be happy to share.
 
  Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles






 


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[RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

2009-05-15 Thread Rene Valbuena
Beautiful bike. What's the fender?

 

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Clayton Scott
Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 6:54 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

 

Bar tape is Fizik microtex in gray. So far it seems nice. It is thinner than
cork and appears less fragile.

 

Clayton, SF CA

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Frederick, Steve
frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote:

Nice!  What's that bartape?

 

Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Clayton Scott
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:27 PM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

Here is mine: 

 

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3531333592_b8e188e79b_b.jpg

 

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3530244832_e00cceafb4_b.jpg

 

 

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com
wrote:


Hey Brian,

You must really be a complete marketing man to the bone.

More power to you and to Renaissance Bicycles.

Rene

BTW: do you still shoot film or solely digital? As for me, I still keep a
Nikon F2S with 43mm~86mm zoom for sentimental reasons.


-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @ Renaissance
Bicycles

Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:08 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch

Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam


Hey Rene,

I am the photographer and mastermind of the whole operation.

Thanks for the complements,

Bryan

On May 13, 12:56 pm, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 Very nice bike!

 Who is your photographer?

 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

 [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
Renaissance
 Bicycles
 Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:48 AM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch
 Subject: [RBW] Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

 While it has taken us a little while to get around to it, we finally
 published some photos of the new silver Quickbeam:

 http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/

 As I wrote about previously, this is my much anticipated personal
 bike ... and I am very very satisfied.  I think the silver color is
 fabulous ... it definitely gives the bike a real retro appearance.
 You may also notice that the bike is lacking the seattube decal ...
 which is the way it arrived.  Fine by me.

 Obviously, I went for the subtle / classic look with the black Brooks
 B17 narrow saddle, black Cinelli cork tape, practical dual-duty
 Shimano pedals, and a black Bike Burrito.  Soon to come is the
 complementary Shimano 16t freewheel, a pair of classic VO bottle
 cages, and the new silver Planet Bike Superflash.

 I've ridden it about 30+ miles so far, so it still needs a little fine-
 tuning and a few adjustments.  Of course, the ride is wonderful; very
 good at low speeds, confident in high-speed turns, smooth over the
 rough stuff, and just a real comfortable riding position.

 Let me know if you have any questions about the parts, build, or
 details of the Quickbeam ... I'll be happy to share.

 Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles






 

 

 




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[RBW] Re: Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread Garth


Thanks for the replies.

Jim I could use some clarification. The XR's lowest pressure
rating is different from the Schwalbe North America and the Schwalbe
Global sites. What is the lowest pressure for the 700x50's? The North
America site says 45-70, the Global says 30-70 , which would be the
same as the Big Apples. Can they both be run at 30 psi?
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[RBW] Ernesto Lube Users ?

2009-05-15 Thread Garth

Has anyone tried this vegetable oil based chain lube?

If so  is it self cleaning like Pro-Link or how does one clean the
chain?

I've tried 3 emails to Ernesto Lube over the last 2 weeksno
replies. I don't know if he's still in business or what.



While we're at it..How about the El Duke degreaser anyone
tried that for better or worse?




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[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you

2009-05-15 Thread erik jensen
I fondly remember getting my cycling merit badge many years ago. Fifty miles
seemed like such a long trip, I think they even gave us a time limit to
complete the ride IIRC. I think the original spirit of scouting has many
similarities to rivishness, which is part of the appeal of both.
I'm partial to the insistently minimal politics of grant though, the scouts
has frustrated me lately with what some of their officials ups have said and
done--it was not (and I don't think is/hope isn't usually) the trend at the
grassroots level across the states during my experience there. Too bad I
feel the need to distance myself from that area, and don't wish to send this
off topic--scouting on the whole is great!

Big apples, not bad ones.

erik

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:39 AM, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have the patch for doing that trip.  Aside from the merit badges, you can
 earn 50 mile patches for both hiking (got that one too for a week long
 backpack on the Long Trail in VT) and cycling. (Both cases as an adult
 leader with the boys.

 --
 *From:* k5osx1 k5o...@gmail.com
 *T*
 I'm a little shocked to see that the scout is required to plan *and
 then ride* a 50 mile trip. I don't recall doing that ...




 


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[RBW] Re: Custom Phil Wood Track Hubs

2009-05-15 Thread Jeremy Till

Ooo!  Saw a pair of those at one of the LBS's, i've been back to drool
many times since.

-jeremy

On May 15, 12:54 am, dmolloy danielmarkmol...@googlemail.com wrote:
 I just got em, and they are so shiny and new!  I can't wait to lace
 them up and start riding them!

 Pic at :  http://twitpic.com/56cn2

 36 hole double fixed with custom Normandy style flange drilling
 similar to the 3.5 limited hubs that phil made 100 pairs of.  Those
 were all 32 hole single fixed.
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[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you

2009-05-15 Thread beth h

Dunno. But seeing as I already earned the Girl Scout cycling merit
badge a zillion years ago, earning a Rivendell merit badge would
seem almost redundant. For my Scout badge I had to help organize a
bike safety rodeo for the local Brownie troop (we invited the Cub
Scouts to participate as well so our numbers would look better), fix a
flat tire all by myself, plan a troop bicycle ride of at least 10
miles long (for Junior Girl Scouts, ages 9-12 and three parent
chaperones) and assign other scouts to help me transport a picnic
lunch for up to ten riders. The last was lots of fun. We started in
Walnut Creek and took a 13-mile loop through Concord and Lafayette
before ending up back at Walnut Park. The scouts were all fine, it was
the parents who struggled with the distance. I felt sad because my
mother, who was the assistant Troop leader, had never learned to ride
a bike, couldn't go.
I was eleven when I completed the badge, and well on my way to loving
bicycles forever.

On second thought, it seems that those who attend the not-quite-annual
Rivendell Weekends already get some kind of badge for their efforts...

Beth

On May 14, 10:42 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:
 so, like, what WOULD a Rivendell merit badge look like?  Ideas?  Not
 the RBW logo.

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[RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

2009-05-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Fenders are 50mm Berthoud. They work well with the 35mm Paselas. At the
seatstay bridge I used one of the small fender attachement pieces that
Jitensha sells. The curve of the fender has been adjusted so I can have a 2
tooth variance from flip to flop side without having to reposition the
fender. Since I am using a bolt on Phil Wood hub (fixed fixed) I simply
unthread the bolts all the way to removes the wheel. Deflating the tire
works too. The ride is wonderful and has seen daily use since I have gotten
it.
Clayton, SF CA

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:07 AM, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.comwrote:

  Beautiful bike. What’s the fender?



 *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Clayton Scott
 *Sent:* Friday, May 15, 2009 6:54 AM

 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam



 Bar tape is Fizik microtex in gray. So far it seems nice. It is thinner
 than cork and appears less fragile.



 Clayton, SF CA

 On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 6:39 AM, Frederick, Steve 
 frede...@mail.lib.msu.edu wrote:

 Nice!  What's that bartape?



 Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI

 -Original Message-
 *From:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]*on Behalf Of *Clayton Scott
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 14, 2009 1:27 PM
 *To:* rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

 Here is mine:



 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3531333592_b8e188e79b_b.jpg



 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3530244832_e00cceafb4_b.jpg





 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com
 wrote:


 Hey Brian,

 You must really be a complete marketing man to the bone.

 More power to you and to Renaissance Bicycles.

 Rene

 BTW: do you still shoot film or solely digital? As for me, I still keep a
 Nikon F2S with 43mm~86mm zoom for sentimental reasons.


 -Original Message-
 From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
 Renaissance
 Bicycles

 Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:08 AM
 To: RBW Owners Bunch

 Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam


 Hey Rene,

 I am the photographer and mastermind of the whole operation.

 Thanks for the complements,

 Bryan

 On May 13, 12:56 pm, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
  Very nice bike!
 
  Who is your photographer?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
  [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
 Renaissance
  Bicycles
  Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:48 AM
  To: RBW Owners Bunch
  Subject: [RBW] Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam
 
  While it has taken us a little while to get around to it, we finally
  published some photos of the new silver Quickbeam:
 
  http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/
 
  As I wrote about previously, this is my much anticipated personal
  bike ... and I am very very satisfied.  I think the silver color is
  fabulous ... it definitely gives the bike a real retro appearance.
  You may also notice that the bike is lacking the seattube decal ...
  which is the way it arrived.  Fine by me.
 
  Obviously, I went for the subtle / classic look with the black Brooks
  B17 narrow saddle, black Cinelli cork tape, practical dual-duty
  Shimano pedals, and a black Bike Burrito.  Soon to come is the
  complementary Shimano 16t freewheel, a pair of classic VO bottle
  cages, and the new silver Planet Bike Superflash.
 
  I've ridden it about 30+ miles so far, so it still needs a little fine-
  tuning and a few adjustments.  Of course, the ride is wonderful; very
  good at low speeds, confident in high-speed turns, smooth over the
  rough stuff, and just a real comfortable riding position.
 
  Let me know if you have any questions about the parts, build, or
  details of the Quickbeam ... I'll be happy to share.
 
  Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles












 


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[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you

2009-05-15 Thread beth h

Dunno. But seeing as I already earned the Girl Scout cycling merit
badge a zillion years ago, earning a Rivendell merit badge would
seem almost redundant. For my Scout badge I had to help organize a
bike safety rodeo for the local Brownie troop (we invited the Cub
Scouts to participate as well so our numbers would look better), fix
a
flat tire all by myself, plan a troop bicycle ride of at least 10
miles long (for Junior Girl Scouts, ages 9-12 and three parent
chaperones) and assign other scouts to help me transport a picnic
lunch for up to ten riders. The last was lots of fun. We started in
Walnut Creek and took a 13-mile loop through Concord and Lafayette
before ending up back at Walnut Park. The scouts were all fine, it
was
the parents who struggled with the distance. I felt sad because my
mother, who was the assistant Troop leader, had never learned to ride
a bike, couldn't go.

I was eleven when I completed the badge, and well on my way to loving
bicycles forever.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/3352745506/

On second thought, it seems that those who attend the not-quite-
annual
Rivendell Weekends already get some kind of badge for their
efforts...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/508855834/

Beth


On May 14, 10:42 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:
 so, like, what WOULD a Rivendell merit badge look like?  Ideas?  Not
 the RBW logo.

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[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you

2009-05-15 Thread RoadieRyan

Badgeez?  Did you say Badgeez ?  (evil cackle) we don't
need...


Sorry couldn't resist

R

On May 15, 9:23 am, beth h periwinkle...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Dunno. But seeing as I already earned the Girl Scout cycling merit
 badge a zillion years ago, earning a Rivendell merit badge would
 seem almost redundant. For my Scout badge I had to help organize a
 bike safety rodeo for the local Brownie troop (we invited the Cub
 Scouts to participate as well so our numbers would look better), fix
 a
 flat tire all by myself, plan a troop bicycle ride of at least 10
 miles long (for Junior Girl Scouts, ages 9-12 and three parent
 chaperones) and assign other scouts to help me transport a picnic
 lunch for up to ten riders. The last was lots of fun. We started in
 Walnut Creek and took a 13-mile loop through Concord and Lafayette
 before ending up back at Walnut Park. The scouts were all fine, it
 was
 the parents who struggled with the distance. I felt sad because my
 mother, who was the assistant Troop leader, had never learned to ride
 a bike, couldn't go.

 I was eleven when I completed the badge, and well on my way to loving
 bicycles forever.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/3352745506/

 On second thought, it seems that those who attend the not-quite-
 annual
 Rivendell Weekends already get some kind of badge for their
 efforts...

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/508855834/

 Beth

 On May 14, 10:42 pm, Lynne Fitz fitzb...@comcast.net wrote:



  so, like, what WOULD a Rivendell merit badge look like?  Ideas?  Not
  the RBW logo.- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

I'd go by what's printed on the tire. I always rode mine at approx
40-55 psi on Velocity Dyad rims, and I'm pretty sure I experimented as
low as 20-30 psi with no obvious problems. I think 70 is too much for
my tastes, rides rough, etc. I'd also shy away from going down to 30
on narrower rims. But, please don't listen to me. Get the tires and
experiment to figure out what works for you.

Jim

On May 15, 10:31 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for the replies.

 Jim I could use some clarification. The XR's lowest pressure
 rating is different from the Schwalbe North America and the Schwalbe
 Global sites. What is the lowest pressure for the 700x50's? The North
 America site says 45-70, the Global says 30-70 , which would be the
 same as the Big Apples. Can they both be run at 30 psi?
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[RBW] Re: Ernesto Lube Users ?

2009-05-15 Thread Ralph Rognstad Jr.

I tried Ernesto and quickly gave up on it because when it came off the 
chain as the chain spun, the oil and gunk would adhere to the rear rim 
and spokes and was a bear to get off. It mostly came off when it rained. 
I used the regular procedure of oiling the chain and then wiping it with 
a rag, but there were always small amounts on the rims and spokes after 
a ride.

Garth wrote:
 Has anyone tried this vegetable oil based chain lube?

 If so  is it self cleaning like Pro-Link or how does one clean the
 chain?

 I've tried 3 emails to Ernesto Lube over the last 2 weeksno
 replies. I don't know if he's still in business or what.



 While we're at it..How about the El Duke degreaser anyone
 tried that for better or worse?




 


   

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[RBW] Re: Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread JoelMatthews

Peter White in a thread on his forum recently opined Schwalbe's higher
recommended psi is too high by 10.  He did not say anything about
underinflation that I am aware of.

Like you, I would be concerned about going as low as 30 on a smaller
rim.

On May 15, 12:00 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
thill@gmail.com wrote:
 I'd go by what's printed on the tire. I always rode mine at approx
 40-55 psi on Velocity Dyad rims, and I'm pretty sure I experimented as
 low as 20-30 psi with no obvious problems. I think 70 is too much for
 my tastes, rides rough, etc. I'd also shy away from going down to 30
 on narrower rims. But, please don't listen to me. Get the tires and
 experiment to figure out what works for you.

 Jim

 On May 15, 10:31 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:



  Thanks for the replies.

  Jim I could use some clarification. The XR's lowest pressure
  rating is different from the Schwalbe North America and the Schwalbe
  Global sites. What is the lowest pressure for the 700x50's? The North
  America site says 45-70, the Global says 30-70 , which would be the
  same as the Big Apples. Can they both be run at 30 psi?- Hide quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

2009-05-15 Thread Jeremy Till

Clayton, that QB is stunning.  Hope to see you around town!

-jeremy in SF

On May 14, 10:27 am, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:
 Here is mine:http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3531333592_b8e188e79b_b.jpg

 http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3530244832_e00cceafb4_b.jpg

 On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.comwrote:



  Hey Brian,

  You must really be a complete marketing man to the bone.

  More power to you and to Renaissance Bicycles.

  Rene

  BTW: do you still shoot film or solely digital? As for me, I still keep a
  Nikon F2S with 43mm~86mm zoom for sentimental reasons.

  -Original Message-
  From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
  [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
  Renaissance
  Bicycles
  Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:08 AM
  To: RBW Owners Bunch
  Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

  Hey Rene,

  I am the photographer and mastermind of the whole operation.

  Thanks for the complements,

  Bryan

  On May 13, 12:56 pm, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
   Very nice bike!

   Who is your photographer?

   -Original Message-
   From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com

   [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
  Renaissance
   Bicycles
   Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:48 AM
   To: RBW Owners Bunch
   Subject: [RBW] Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

   While it has taken us a little while to get around to it, we finally
   published some photos of the new silver Quickbeam:

  http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/

   As I wrote about previously, this is my much anticipated personal
   bike ... and I am very very satisfied.  I think the silver color is
   fabulous ... it definitely gives the bike a real retro appearance.
   You may also notice that the bike is lacking the seattube decal ...
   which is the way it arrived.  Fine by me.

   Obviously, I went for the subtle / classic look with the black Brooks
   B17 narrow saddle, black Cinelli cork tape, practical dual-duty
   Shimano pedals, and a black Bike Burrito.  Soon to come is the
   complementary Shimano 16t freewheel, a pair of classic VO bottle
   cages, and the new silver Planet Bike Superflash.

   I've ridden it about 30+ miles so far, so it still needs a little fine-
   tuning and a few adjustments.  Of course, the ride is wonderful; very
   good at low speeds, confident in high-speed turns, smooth over the
   rough stuff, and just a real comfortable riding position.

   Let me know if you have any questions about the parts, build, or
   details of the Quickbeam ... I'll be happy to share.

   Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
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[RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam

2009-05-15 Thread Clayton Scott
Say hi if you do. I am usually heading West to East mornings and East to
West evenings.




On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:


 Clayton, that QB is stunning.  Hope to see you around town!

 -jeremy in SF

 On May 14, 10:27 am, Clayton Scott clayton...@gmail.com wrote:
  Here is mine:
 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/3531333592_b8e188e79b_b.jpg
 
  http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3604/3530244832_e00cceafb4_b.jpg
 
  On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:40 AM, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
   Hey Brian,
 
   You must really be a complete marketing man to the bone.
 
   More power to you and to Renaissance Bicycles.
 
   Rene
 
   BTW: do you still shoot film or solely digital? As for me, I still keep
 a
   Nikon F2S with 43mm~86mm zoom for sentimental reasons.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
   [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
   Renaissance
   Bicycles
   Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 5:08 AM
   To: RBW Owners Bunch
   Subject: [RBW] Re: Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam
 
   Hey Rene,
 
   I am the photographer and mastermind of the whole operation.
 
   Thanks for the complements,
 
   Bryan
 
   On May 13, 12:56 pm, Rene Valbuena valbu...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
Very nice bike!
 
Who is your photographer?
 
-Original Message-
From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
 
[mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bryan @
   Renaissance
Bicycles
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:48 AM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Photos of the new Rivendell Quickbeam
 
While it has taken us a little while to get around to it, we finally
published some photos of the new silver Quickbeam:
 
   http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/
 
As I wrote about previously, this is my much anticipated personal
bike ... and I am very very satisfied.  I think the silver color is
fabulous ... it definitely gives the bike a real retro appearance.
You may also notice that the bike is lacking the seattube decal ...
which is the way it arrived.  Fine by me.
 
Obviously, I went for the subtle / classic look with the black Brooks
B17 narrow saddle, black Cinelli cork tape, practical dual-duty
Shimano pedals, and a black Bike Burrito.  Soon to come is the
complementary Shimano 16t freewheel, a pair of classic VO bottle
cages, and the new silver Planet Bike Superflash.
 
I've ridden it about 30+ miles so far, so it still needs a little
 fine-
tuning and a few adjustments.  Of course, the ride is wonderful; very
good at low speeds, confident in high-speed turns, smooth over the
rough stuff, and just a real comfortable riding position.
 
Let me know if you have any questions about the parts, build, or
details of the Quickbeam ... I'll be happy to share.
 
Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles
 


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[RBW] Re: Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread Dave Craig

I've used both tires albeit on differently sized rims (XR 26x50  Big
Apple 700x60)

The Big Apple works well at a variety of pressures, though at the high
end, you lose the benefits of fat tire suspension.

I really like the XR's for snow riding and dirt roads. I use these on
my Surly Big Dummy and they are great for toting the 100+ pound loads
I sometimes carry in town. I run these on wide Salsa Gordo rims. I
recently discovered how low is too low in terms of tire pressure for
these tires. I was running about 20 psi or so in the front and I
discovered that on sharp turns at speed the tire would suddenly
collapse onto the sidewall. It was a little alarming when it
happened on a fast downhill. I now completely understand the RBW bias
towards round tires! At 40 psi and above, they work great. In my
opinion, XR's are complete overkill for anything except nasty roads,
no roads and very heavy loads. I used them road touring one year and
my Atlantis felt like a truck. However . . .

Marathon Supremes in 50mm are great. They are lighter than Big Apples
and roll really well. I've been running these on my Bombadil on road
rides up to 54miles and will use them on an upcoming 3000 mile tour.
They are very nice.

Dave

On May 15, 10:40 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:
 Peter White in a thread on his forum recently opined Schwalbe's higher
 recommended psi is too high by 10.  He did not say anything about
 underinflation that I am aware of.

 Like you, I would be concerned about going as low as 30 on a smaller
 rim.

 On May 15, 12:00 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery



 thill@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd go by what's printed on the tire. I always rode mine at approx
  40-55 psi on Velocity Dyad rims, and I'm pretty sure I experimented as
  low as 20-30 psi with no obvious problems. I think 70 is too much for
  my tastes, rides rough, etc. I'd also shy away from going down to 30
  on narrower rims. But, please don't listen to me. Get the tires and
  experiment to figure out what works for you.

  Jim

  On May 15, 10:31 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

   Thanks for the replies.

   Jim I could use some clarification. The XR's lowest pressure
   rating is different from the Schwalbe North America and the Schwalbe
   Global sites. What is the lowest pressure for the 700x50's? The North
   America site says 45-70, the Global says 30-70 , which would be the
   same as the Big Apples. Can they both be run at 30 psi?- Hide quoted text 
   -

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[RBW] Re: Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread JoelMatthews

 Marathon Supremes in 50mm are great. They are lighter than Big Apples
 and roll really well. I've been running these on my Bombadil on road
 rides up to 54miles and will use them on an upcoming 3000 mile tour.
 They are very nice.

Supremes are amazing tires.  They do not have a bottle generator strip
and the tread is too smooth for rugged off road stuff.  Otherwise they
are about as close to an armored racing tire as one can find.  I
really like them.

On May 15, 1:30 pm, Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu wrote:
 I've used both tires albeit on differently sized rims (XR 26x50  Big
 Apple 700x60)

 The Big Apple works well at a variety of pressures, though at the high
 end, you lose the benefits of fat tire suspension.

 I really like the XR's for snow riding and dirt roads. I use these on
 my Surly Big Dummy and they are great for toting the 100+ pound loads
 I sometimes carry in town. I run these on wide Salsa Gordo rims. I
 recently discovered how low is too low in terms of tire pressure for
 these tires. I was running about 20 psi or so in the front and I
 discovered that on sharp turns at speed the tire would suddenly
 collapse onto the sidewall. It was a little alarming when it
 happened on a fast downhill. I now completely understand the RBW bias
 towards round tires! At 40 psi and above, they work great. In my
 opinion, XR's are complete overkill for anything except nasty roads,
 no roads and very heavy loads. I used them road touring one year and
 my Atlantis felt like a truck. However . . .

 Marathon Supremes in 50mm are great. They are lighter than Big Apples
 and roll really well. I've been running these on my Bombadil on road
 rides up to 54miles and will use them on an upcoming 3000 mile tour.
 They are very nice.

 Dave

 On May 15, 10:40 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:



  Peter White in a thread on his forum recently opined Schwalbe's higher
  recommended psi is too high by 10.  He did not say anything about
  underinflation that I am aware of.

  Like you, I would be concerned about going as low as 30 on a smaller
  rim.

  On May 15, 12:00 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

  thill@gmail.com wrote:
   I'd go by what's printed on the tire. I always rode mine at approx
   40-55 psi on Velocity Dyad rims, and I'm pretty sure I experimented as
   low as 20-30 psi with no obvious problems. I think 70 is too much for
   my tastes, rides rough, etc. I'd also shy away from going down to 30
   on narrower rims. But, please don't listen to me. Get the tires and
   experiment to figure out what works for you.

   Jim

   On May 15, 10:31 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for the replies.

Jim I could use some clarification. The XR's lowest pressure
rating is different from the Schwalbe North America and the Schwalbe
Global sites. What is the lowest pressure for the 700x50's? The North
America site says 45-70, the Global says 30-70 , which would be the
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[RBW] Stock Orange Quickbeam Interior Rim Width?

2009-05-15 Thread Paul

Curious,
  but not enough to take a tire off this moment.

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[RBW] Re: No Rivendell merit badge for you

2009-05-15 Thread Lisa -S.H.



beth h wrote:
 I was eleven when I completed the badge, and well on my way to loving
 bicycles forever.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/bethness/3352745506/

Beth I love your saddlebag and badges and stickers.  :)
Lisa

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[RBW] Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

2009-05-15 Thread jinxed

Are you a member?

So here is the story...turning the way-back machine to about 1996,
some friends and I were sitting over coffee after a ride and started
to recount how many times we had done this. As it turned out, it was
apparent that not only had the vast majority of our rides (bike,
motorcycle, skateboard, snowboard...) started or ended over coffee,
but many of our good friends and riding partners were met at the cafes
we were frequenting. We had a pretty good network that spanned darn
near coast to coast. An Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen I
blurted out while simultaneously sketching out a logo on the
napkin

Fast forward to about 6 months ago, I was digging through some piles
of artwork looking for something, and stumbled on my original sketch.
All of the patches and hats we had originally done up were long
retired, lost, or given away...so I got in touch with some of the
original ACW's and told them I was going to mint some lapel
pins...everyone chipped in to beat the minimums.

Our whole thing was very tongue in cheek, but we wanted it to have an
old money-secret society-unleash the hounds type of feel to it.
Anyway after finding the iBob's / ROB's and meeting so many awesome
people and reading about the network that exists between the riders, I
thought it would be cool to expand the ACW.

It's all for fun and conversation, and really just a bit of decoration
for the bags, hats etc...but wanted to offer them up. I have @ 20-30
or so left of the lapel pins, but we can do more if interest is there.
We were also contemplating doing up some patches too?

$6/pc shipped to you. Trades for your club pins is good too. For
that matter no interesting trade would be turned down. Drop me line
hbcl...@yahoo.com or just paypal me there with your info!

Stay thirsty my friendsfor coffee. ;)

http://tinyurl.com/rx66y8
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[RBW] Re: Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:


 Greetings,


I'm considering a Big Apple or Marathon XR in a 700x50 size, and
 wondered about the differences in gearing compared to a 700x35 tire,
 which I use on another bike.  I can see how the gear inches change by
 the gear charts for different size tires, but what affect does the
 extra width and heft have, if any, in real world riding?

  A 2 tooth reduction seems to be where I'm going from my road bike
 using a 13-32 7 speed freewheel.


A 32 mm 559 tire on a 22 mm rim measures just shy of 25. The 60 mm 559 Big
Apple measured just shy of 27. Perhaps you can extrapolate.

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[RBW] Re: Scwalbe Big Apple/Marathon XR 50mm's

2009-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:40 AM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote:


 Peter White in a thread on his forum recently opined Schwalbe's higher
 recommended psi is too high by 10.  He did not say anything about
 underinflation that I am aware of.

 Like you, I would be concerned about going as low as 30 on a smaller
 rim.

 On May 15, 12:00 pm, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
 thill@gmail.com wrote:
  I'd go by what's printed on the tire. I always rode mine at approx
  40-55 psi on Velocity Dyad rims, and I'm pretty sure I experimented as
  low as 20-30 psi with no obvious problems. I think 70 is too much for


Again, for 60s, both 622 and 559, I've run the front as low as 15 (by
mistake) on 22 (559) and 24 (622) mm rims; no problems. Generally I've
chosen 20 front, 25 rear. This does cause sidewall flop that you notice on
pavement (not on dirt), but I've never had a pinch flat.  170 lb bare
nekkid.

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

2009-05-15 Thread Seth Vidal

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 7:08 PM, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Are you a member?
 It's all for fun and conversation, and really just a bit of decoration
 for the bags, hats etc...but wanted to offer them up. I have @ 20-30
 or so left of the lapel pins, but we can do more if interest is there.
 We were also contemplating doing up some patches too?

 $6/pc shipped to you. Trades for your club pins is good too. For
 that matter no interesting trade would be turned down. Drop me line
 hbcl...@yahoo.com or just paypal me there with your info!

 Stay thirsty my friendsfor coffee. ;)

 http://tinyurl.com/rx66y8


There are many things which kick ass and this is CLEARLY one of them.

I'll drop you an email for a couple of these soon.
-sv

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[RBW] Re: May SoCal Rivendell Bicycle Appreciation Society Ride

2009-05-15 Thread David Estes
Notice that it's warming up a bit, probably up to 92F.  That's by 1-2:00
though, so should be in the 80's for most of the ride.  Still, bring two H20
bottles and hydrate on the way over.

Bring food, too.  There's a supermarket on the way, but there would be a
detour to get to it.

If anyone is running late, we can have a mid-route link up at Crafton Hills
Collegehttp://maps.google.com/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=crafton+hills+collegeie=UTF8ll=34.041458,-117.100825spn=0.017212,0.038624z=15iwloc=A.
That's about 45 min into the ride.

For the locals that can't make the ride, we would love to meet up post-ride
at Gourmet Pizza Co, maybe threeish???

Again, Jack Browns are fine, 35mm Paselas are what I'll be riding.  RTs are
great too, but you'll be feeling it in your arms by the end of the ride.
Soo worth it though!!! :-)

See y'all at 9:00!



On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 9:58 PM, David Estes cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote:

 I just started a discussion on the flickr 
 page.http://www.flickr.com/groups/socal_rivendell_bicycle_appreciation_society/discuss/72157617023666267/(and
  here:
 *http://tinyurl.com/dxbmey)*

 35 miles out of Redlands, maybe about 1/2 on dirt.  Plenty of elevation,
 but only one portion is steep (trust me, you've seen how I climb...).

 Love to get some folks out and enjoying the great out doors!

 Discussion here or on flickr is fine.  Big decision is finding the date
 which impacts the fewest...

 FYI, we're also thinking a June S24O to Crystal Cove and an early July ride
 in San Diego.

 --
 Cheers,
 David
 Redlands, CA




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Cheers,
David
Redlands, CA

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[RBW] Re: Speaking of merit badges...Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen

2009-05-15 Thread jinxed

You may want to be fast...I think I underestimated the interest these
would garner. 20 are spoken for already, I have 10 or so left.

Maybe wise to check before sending funds from now on. I can have more
made, but the turn time is like 3 weeks. I don't want to have people
waiting.

Brad

 There are many things which kick ass and this is CLEARLY one of them.

 I'll drop you an email for a couple of these soon.
 -sv
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[RBW] Re: Now: 30mm tire availability was: Ruffy Tuffy tire problems

2009-05-15 Thread Bill M.



On May 15, 5:18 am, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote:

 My first thought is  Vittoria Randonneur's. Try the Cross. They
 come in a 28,32 and 35. You can get them at 
 REI.http://www.rei.com/product/709112
 They are a little heavier but as always one must look into why
 they are heavier. More rubber and double shielding . If they fall
 apart, REI will take care of it. They also sell a Panaracer Crosstown
 in a 32mm, which may work as they run a little narrow. It's heavy too,
 but it's because of all that tread and super puncture resistance!  I
 use these in a 35(34 actual on a 24mm rim) and they are great on paved
 and back roads. Loads of Air volume.

 Or just stick with a Pasela 32.

I like my 35 mm (measured 34 mm) Randonneur Pros.  Nice rolling,
sturdy, and reflective sidewalls.  Not exactly light, but the Pro's
have less tread and folding beads so they're lighter (and presumably
speedier) than the Cross version.  Vittoria's seem to run just under
stated size, so the 32s should come in around 31 actual.

Bill
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