Re: [RBW] Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
Honolulu - All fenders, all the time. Like we say out here, if you don't like the weather, wait ten minutes. If you do like the weather, wait ten minutes. Generally I ride to work on wet streets in the morning and come home on dry ones except for the days I do the opposite. Aloha! On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM, William wrote: > Do you celebrate the changing seasons by annually pulling off the > fenders for the summer and putting them back on for the winter? When > do you do it? By feel, by date, or in reaction to the threat of > weather? Or do you leave them on year-round? > > I live in El Cerrito, CA (just north of Berkeley). We had a little > rain this week, but I am tempted to take off the fenders from my > Hillborne pretty soon. It's freaking gorgeous out. I got the bike > last December, so I've never seen it built up without fenders. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Robert Harrison rfharri...@gmail.com statrix.statrix.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
And I'm not sure why the Bombadil and Hunqapillar both have DT shifter bosses standard, when they are so right for bar-ends or thumbies, yet the Roadeo does not. Hmmm If it's true that the Paul brakes can overpower the stays or fork blades and cause a twist, (I'm only guessing here given that Paul uses a similar explanation for their Neo-Retro Cantis: "These are very powerful brakes, and have a tendency to over power thin tubed frames (in any material)." then I say build stronger frames to allow these great brakes to be used. As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only wish I had them brazed on. Marty On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word > from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If > demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the > folly of its ways. > > On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > Well, that is too bad if true. > > > The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. > > > Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very > > easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of > > minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the > > handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull > > the levers to the grip to slow down. > > > On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William wrote: > > > > Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've > > > talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked > > > how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is > > > violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a > > > customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they > > > reluctantly said "OK for $500 extra". So, in conclusion, he said if I > > > had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So > > > there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of > > > Rivendells. > > > > Keven also pointed out all the obvious common sense things. The > > > center mount ones are already so strong, maybe too strong. What more > > > do you need?. If they are too strong you can replace them with less > > > strong center mount ones. Having a single-source for any of your > > > parts to keep your bike rideable is risky. All correct statements. > > > > On Mar 26, 2:15 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > > There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. > > > > > Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. > > > > > I have experienced original Racers in post mount and braze on. The > > > > post mounts are probaby better than 99% of what is out there today. > > > > The Brazeons are that much better than the post mounts. > > > > > Braze on is a cleaner look and easier to adjust and maintain as well. > > > > Hope Riv agrees. > > > > > On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Gino Zahnd wrote: > > > > > > There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. > > > > > Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. > > > > > > -Gino > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael_S > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Boy those polished ones are the cats pajama's! > > > > > > > will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can't tell from your > > > > > > "conversation"? > > > > > > > ~Mike~ > > > > > > > On Mar 26, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > >> > "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these > > > > > >> > brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! > > > > > > >> "How much to add braze on mounting posts? $25.00 per post? I am > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> heaven! > > > > > > >> On Mar 26, 12:05 pm, William wrote: > > > > > > >> > Those are swank! I can't afford not to have a set. > > > > > > >> > "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these > > > > > >> > brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! > > > > > > >> > On Mar 26, 7:52 am, Marty wrote: > > > > > > >> > > Very nice option for many builds. Fits 45mm fenders with no > > > > > >> > > brake arm > > > > > >> > > interference! > > > > > > >> > >http://www.paulcomp.com/racerm.html-Hidequotedtext- > > > > > > >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > > rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsub
Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 03:45 -0700, Marty wrote: > And I'm not sure why the Bombadil and Hunqapillar both have DT shifter > bosses standard, when they are so right for bar-ends or thumbies, yet > the Roadeo does not. Hmmm > > If it's true that the Paul brakes can overpower the stays or fork > blades and cause a twist, That's an issue specifically with the Neo Retro. It's not applicable to the centerpull brakes, as far as I know. As Jan has pointed out (here? on the BOB list? can't recall) the location of the bosses for centerpull is much higher up the fork, just below the fork crown; canti bosses are much lower down on the fork and consequently have much more leverage. > (I'm only guessing here given that Paul uses > a similar explanation for their Neo-Retro Cantis: "These are very > powerful brakes, and have a tendency to over power thin tubed frames > (in any material)." then I say build stronger frames to allow these > great brakes to be used. As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out > estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious > unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses > put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with > what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have > center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only > wish I had them brazed on. Brazed-on centerpulls are great. Too bad Waterford doesn't see that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne - a fully loaded tourer?
Have used my 56cm Hillborne on a S24O. Definitely not a cross-country trip. But it handled fine. Was just rear loaded. Here's a snap from the trip - http://tinyurl.com/yd45znr At the time, my weight was about 240, and probably 25 or so pounds of gear. One of the panniers has the sleeping bag stuffed in. If this were a longer trip, that probably would go on the front rack and more clothing/food/etc. into the pannier. Handling was fine. No better or worse than the (now sold) Atlantis. If one keeps track - my weight and load exceeded what was "suggested" by Rivendell when the bike came out. No ill effects happened. As Doug mentions, they are conservative in the ratings. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Mar 26, 9:04�pm, Phil Roberts wrote: > It's a 52cm frame so it has 650B wheels. I have a Tubus Vega on the rear. > I've run it with a Nitto M12 on the front but that rack is currently back on > my Expedition and I'm running the Hillborne primarily as a rear loader with > a small handlebar-mounted bag in the front. By the way, the Hillborne > handles nicely with 5-6 lbs of stuff up front. With full rear panniers and > sleeping stuff strapped to the Tubus, I have around 30-35 lbs of gear plus > my 170 lbs. > > Phil > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, happyriding wrote: > > Hi, > > > Thanks for the response. > > > On Mar 26, 3:48 pm, Phil Roberts wrote: > > > I've > > > descended 40 mph full-load and not once felt like I would lose control. > > > May I ask what size your Sam Hillborne is? �Front and rear racks? �How > > many pounds would you say you had loaded on it? > > > Thanks. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: powder coat and decals?
Definitely call Rivendell- they sent me decals when I had my frame powdercoated, and were very helpful on the phone, explaining the proper technique for putting them on.They even posted a web video about it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-6Jya6H4lY Note: They do make it look easy in the video- and it is, but only if you're using the proper technique of 'burnishing' the decal to the surface.Just watch the video closely a couple times and you shouldn't have any problems. On Mar 26, 10:57 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > After a scary, but totally non-destructive crash, my bike has major > scrapes. > frame is fine, but i'm thinking of having it powder coated by a place > in the bronx. > its a hillborne, and I'm wondering if Rivendell will send out > replacement decals. > Anyone have experience with this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the stays, but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil. At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, at least in the bigger sizes. They are billing it as a light, rackless, go-fast bike, but it's still Grant Petersen conservative in its own way. Plus, there are other light tubed bikes (Boulder Bike) where Waterford attaches canti studs w/ no fuss. So it would be interesting to have a better explanation for Waterford's reticence. As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out > estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious > unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses > put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with > what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have > center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only > wish I had them brazed on. > > Marty > > On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: >> Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word >> from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If >> demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the >> folly of its ways. >> >> On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: >> >> >> >>> Well, that is too bad if true. >> >>> The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. >> >>> Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very >>> easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of >>> minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the >>> handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull >>> the levers to the grip to slow down. >> >>> On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William wrote: >> Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they reluctantly said "OK for $500 extra". So, in conclusion, he said if I had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of Rivendells. >> Keven also pointed out all the obvious common sense things. The center mount ones are already so strong, maybe too strong. What more do you need?. If they are too strong you can replace them with less strong center mount ones. Having a single-source for any of your parts to keep your bike rideable is risky. All correct statements. >> On Mar 26, 2:15 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: >> >> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. >> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. >> > I have experienced original Racers in post mount and braze on. The > post mounts are probaby better than 99% of what is out there today. > The Brazeons are that much better than the post mounts. >> > Braze on is a cleaner look and easier to adjust and maintain as well. > Hope Riv agrees. >> > On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Gino Zahnd wrote: >> >> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. >> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. >> >> -Gino >> >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael_S >> wrote: >>> Boy those polished ones are the cats pajama's! >> >>> will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can't tell from your >>> "conversation"? >> >>> ~Mike~ >> >>> On Mar 26, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these > brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! >> "How much to add braze on mounting posts? $25.00 per post? I am in heaven! >> On Mar 26, 12:05 pm, William wrote: >> > Those are swank! I can't afford not to have a set. >> > "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these > brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! >> > On Mar 26, 7:52 am, Marty wrote: >> >> Very nice option for many builds. Fits 45mm fenders with no brake arm >> interference! >> >> http://www.paulcomp.com/racerm.html-Hidequotedtext- >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - >> - Show quoted text - >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
Portland, Or. It rains here from time to time... My commuter has fenders, SKS P45s, year round. I'll leave fenders, Berthouds, on the Hilsen for my brevets but may take them off this summer if I want to run my Schwalbe Marathons (700x41). I can fit tires up to 700x35 with the Berthouds. The QB has SKS P45s on it for now. I may remove those as they make "changing gears" a bit of a pain. We'll see. On my Rambouillet I had Berthoud 700x40s on with RT tires. I realized I wanted to run a bigger tire and since I have other fendered bikes I took them off. I also took off the Mark's rack. It now sports 700x32 Paselas. I like the way the bike looks and rides stripped down. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne - a fully loaded tourer?
We built one for a customer who is going to do just that: http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/?album=12&gallery=53 I say go for it ... just don't bring the kitchen sink. The HIllborne is a really solid bike and can handle a reasonable load. Bryan On Mar 27, 8:34 am, EricP wrote: > Have used my 56cm Hillborne on a S24O. Definitely not a cross-country > trip. But it handled fine. Was just rear loaded. Here's a snap from > the trip -http://tinyurl.com/yd45znr > > At the time, my weight was about 240, and probably 25 or so pounds of > gear. One of the panniers has the sleeping bag stuffed in. If this > were a longer trip, that probably would go on the front rack and more > clothing/food/etc. into the pannier. > > Handling was fine. No better or worse than the (now sold) Atlantis. > > If one keeps track - my weight and load exceeded what was "suggested" > by Rivendell when the bike came out. No ill effects happened. As > Doug mentions, they are conservative in the ratings. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On Mar 26, 9:04 pm, Phil Roberts wrote: > > > It's a 52cm frame so it has 650B wheels. I have a Tubus Vega on the rear. > > I've run it with a Nitto M12 on the front but that rack is currently back on > > my Expedition and I'm running the Hillborne primarily as a rear loader with > > a small handlebar-mounted bag in the front. By the way, the Hillborne > > handles nicely with 5-6 lbs of stuff up front. With full rear panniers and > > sleeping stuff strapped to the Tubus, I have around 30-35 lbs of gear plus > > my 170 lbs. > > > Phil > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:44 PM, happyriding wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > Thanks for the response. > > > > On Mar 26, 3:48 pm, Phil Roberts wrote: > > > > I've > > > > descended 40 mph full-load and not once felt like I would lose control. > > > > May I ask what size your Sam Hillborne is? Front and rear racks? How > > > many pounds would you say you had loaded on it? > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > . > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
Better yet, just have the unpainted bike sent to Nobilette and have him braze them on. Wait time could be a hassle, but the extra shipping would still vastly outweigh W'Ford's upcharge. Sheesh, it's not like've never done canti posts before. In fact whatever set up for the first Racer posts there is, while a pain (aren't they in the bike building business?) would be a sales point as well. "First in the industry to offer mounts for Paul's Racer-M" or some such advert. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dustin Sharp wrote: > I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the > stays, > but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and > thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil. > > At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, > at > least in the bigger sizes. They are billing it as a light, rackless, > go-fast > bike, but it's still Grant Petersen conservative in its own way. > > Plus, there are other light tubed bikes (Boulder Bike) where Waterford > attaches canti studs w/ no fuss. > > So it would be interesting to have a better explanation for Waterford's > reticence. > > > As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out > > estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious > > unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses > > put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with > > what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have > > center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only > > wish I had them brazed on. > > > > Marty > > > > On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word > >> from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If > >> demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the > >> folly of its ways. > >> > >> On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>> Well, that is too bad if true. > >> > >>> The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. > >> > >>> Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very > >>> easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of > >>> minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the > >>> handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull > >>> the levers to the grip to slow down. > >> > >>> On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William wrote: > >> > Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've > talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked > how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is > violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a > customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they > reluctantly said "OK for $500 extra". So, in conclusion, he said if I > had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So > there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of > Rivendells. > >> > Keven also pointed out all the obvious common sense things. The > center mount ones are already so strong, maybe too strong. What more > do you need?. If they are too strong you can replace them with less > strong center mount ones. Having a single-source for any of your > parts to keep your bike rideable is risky. All correct statements. > >> > On Mar 26, 2:15 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> > >> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. > >> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to > go. > >> > > I have experienced original Racers in post mount and braze on. The > > post mounts are probaby better than 99% of what is out there today. > > The Brazeons are that much better than the post mounts. > >> > > Braze on is a cleaner look and easier to adjust and maintain as well. > > Hope Riv agrees. > >> > > On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Gino Zahnd wrote: > >> > >> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. > >> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to > go. > >> > >> -Gino > >> > >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Michael_S < > mikeybi...@rocketmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>> Boy those polished ones are the cats pajama's! > >> > >>> will Riv add the braze on's to the Roadeo? I can't tell from your > >>> "conversation"? > >> > >>> ~Mike~ > >> > >>> On Mar 26, 11:00 am, JoelMatthews wrote: > > "Hello, Keven? It's me Bill, can you sell me a bike to fit these > > brakes? A Roadeo? Sounds perfecto! > >> > "How much to add braze on mounting posts? $25.00 per post? I am > in > heaven! > >> > On Mar 26, 12:05 pm, William wrote: > >> > > Those are swank! I can't afford not to have a set. > >> > > "Hello, Keven?
Re: [RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
> > Fenders help for more than just rain... True! http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2009/05/indignity-of-commuting-by-bicycle_12.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
As others have said, I have fenders on all my bikes, including one dual banger MTB, and leave 'em on all year around. In addition to the unpredictable weather here in the upper Midwest, I ride mostly on trails converted from old railroad ROW's that have been surfaced over with finely crushed limestone tailings. This stuff gets very dusty during dry months and I have found that the fenders keep the brakes and headset, in particular, from getting gunked up as much. They also protect the paint from rock chips. On Mar 26, 4:14 pm, William wrote: > Do you celebrate the changing seasons by annually pulling off the > fenders for the summer and putting them back on for the winter? When > do you do it? By feel, by date, or in reaction to the threat of > weather? Or do you leave them on year-round? > > I live in El Cerrito, CA (just north of Berkeley). We had a little > rain this week, but I am tempted to take off the fenders from my > Hillborne pretty soon. It's freaking gorgeous out. I got the bike > last December, so I've never seen it built up without fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:02 AM, George Schick wrote: > As others have said, I have fenders on all my bikes, including one > dual banger MTB, and leave 'em on all year around. In addition to the > unpredictable weather here in the upper Midwest, I ride mostly on > trails converted from old railroad ROW's that have been surfaced over > with finely crushed limestone tailings. This stuff gets very dusty > during dry months and I have found that the fenders keep the brakes > and headset, in particular, from getting gunked up as much. They also > protect the paint from rock chips. Upper Midwest here as well and all of my bikes have fenders year round. The Mariposa arrived with fenders installed and they've never been off :) Agreed about the crushed limestone trails. We have the Wildgoose Trail just a couple of miles away and, while it's not my favorite riding venue - the limestone surface is noisy and dusty and where it's not a complete cover the trail can be pretty slippery when it's wet - it's convenient for some rides. -Ken -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] rivendell blog: 2010 Track champ series, and a question
So there's a link on the Rivendell site to this gallery: http://velonews.competitor.com/2010/03/track/2010-track-world-championships-galleries_109147?album=26&gallery=252 And a pretty interesting frame 'malfunction' in the 8th photo in the set. But I noticed something else that I found curious as well: in the 3rd and 11th photos in the set, the captions read: "Czech rider was also DQ'ed for arm position." "Gideon Massie was disqualified for improper arm position." How does that work? How can you be disqualified from race for how you position your arms? Is it a safety issue? I come from a bmx background and know nothing about track racing so forgive my ignorance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
In Portland it can be fender season just about anytime, except maybe between 4th of July and Labor Day. Isn't this question justification enough for having more than one bike? Jobst obviously lives in a sunnier clime. Funny timing, I'm just heading off to the basement to put fenders ON another bike (xtracycle). On Mar 26, 1:14 pm, William wrote: > Do you celebrate the changing seasons by annually pulling off the > fenders for the summer and putting them back on for the winter? When > do you do it? By feel, by date, or in reaction to the threat of > weather? Or do you leave them on year-round? > > I live in El Cerrito, CA (just north of Berkeley). We had a little > rain this week, but I am tempted to take off the fenders from my > Hillborne pretty soon. It's freaking gorgeous out. I got the bike > last December, so I've never seen it built up without fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
Fairbanks. I'll put my fenders on when the snow melts in April. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Betty
Congrats on your new Betty! She looks GREAT! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
Kennebunk Maine. The fenders on my Atlantis stay on year round. If there's not snow, then there's rain and fog. Also they look great. I even installed fenders on my non-Rivendell bikes-now they have the look, too. Bill On Mar 27, 4:17 am, "Robert F. Harrison" wrote: > Honolulu - All fenders, all the time. > > Like we say out here, if you don't like the weather, wait ten minutes. If > you do like the weather, wait ten minutes. > > Generally I ride to work on wet streets in the morning and come home on dry > ones except for the days I do the opposite. > > Aloha! > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:14 AM, William wrote: > > Do you celebrate the changing seasons by annually pulling off the > > fenders for the summer and putting them back on for the winter? When > > do you do it? By feel, by date, or in reaction to the threat of > > weather? Or do you leave them on year-round? > > > I live in El Cerrito, CA (just north of Berkeley). We had a little > > rain this week, but I am tempted to take off the fenders from my > > Hillborne pretty soon. It's freaking gorgeous out. I got the bike > > last December, so I've never seen it built up without fenders. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > Robert Harrison > rfharri...@gmail.com > statrix.statrix.com- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
I live in Maine and leave the fenders on all year. On Mar 26, 5:14 pm, William wrote: > Do you celebrate the changing seasons by annually pulling off the > fenders for the summer and putting them back on for the winter? When > do you do it? By feel, by date, or in reaction to the threat of > weather? Or do you leave them on year-round? > > I live in El Cerrito, CA (just north of Berkeley). We had a little > rain this week, but I am tempted to take off the fenders from my > Hillborne pretty soon. It's freaking gorgeous out. I got the bike > last December, so I've never seen it built up without fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
This brouhaha should not have happened if RBW (and Waterford?) did not agree to grant the request to add a DT stud in the first place. Now everybody thought we can semi-customize the Rodeo to our liking. The coming out of the new Paul's Racer-M further stoked this. We want to semi-customize our Rodeo to fit the new brake. If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration as Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even though minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT studs. Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. n Rene From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cyclotourist Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:38 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive! Better yet, just have the unpainted bike sent to Nobilette and have him braze them on. Wait time could be a hassle, but the extra shipping would still vastly outweigh W'Ford's upcharge. Sheesh, it's not like've never done canti posts before. In fact whatever set up for the first Racer posts there is, while a pain (aren't they in the bike building business?) would be a sales point as well. "First in the industry to offer mounts for Paul's Racer-M" or some such advert. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dustin Sharp wrote: I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the stays, but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil. At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, at least in the bigger sizes. They are billing it as a light, rackless, go-fast bike, but it's still Grant Petersen conservative in its own way. Plus, there are other light tubed bikes (Boulder Bike) where Waterford attaches canti studs w/ no fuss. So it would be interesting to have a better explanation for Waterford's reticence. As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out > estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious > unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses > put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with > what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have > center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only > wish I had them brazed on. > > Marty > > On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: >> Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word >> from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If >> demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the >> folly of its ways. >> >> On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: >> >> >> >>> Well, that is too bad if true. >> >>> The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. >> >>> Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very >>> easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of >>> minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the >>> handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull >>> the levers to the grip to slow down. >> >>> On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William wrote: >> Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they reluctantly said "OK for $500 extra". So, in conclusion, he said if I had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of Rivendells. >> Keven also pointed out all the obvious common sense things. The center mount ones are already so strong, maybe too strong. What more do you need?. If they are too strong you can replace them with less strong center mount ones. Having a single-source for any of your parts to keep your bike rideable is risky. All correct statements. >> On Mar 26, 2:15 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: >> >> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. >> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. >> > I have experienced original Racers in post mount and braze on. The > post mounts are probaby better than 99% of what is out there today. > The Brazeons are that much better than the post mounts. >> > Braze on is a cleaner look and easier to adjust and maintain as well. > Hope Riv agrees. >> > On Mar 26, 4:07 pm, Gino Zahnd wrote: >> >> There's a post-mount version, so you don't need special braze-ons. >> Though, to maximize function/purpose, the brazeons are the way to go. >> >> -Gino >> >> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 1
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne - a fully loaded tourer?
Hi, Thanks for the responses. On Mar 27, 8:34 am, "Bryan @ Renaissance Bicycles" wrote: > We built one for a customer who is going to do just > that:http://www.renaissancebicycles.com/gallery/rb-gallery-1/?album=12&gal... > Oh, yeah. I've been poring over those pictures. That's a similar setup to the one I'm considering ala the Nitto Big Front Rack. > I say go for it ... just don't bring the kitchen sink. The HIllborne > is a really solid bike and can handle a reasonable load. I'm worried. As a frame gets bigger, e.g. a 60cm, and the tubes get longer, the tubes get flexy fast. Would you happen to know the specs of the tubes used to build the Sam Hillborne? Does Rivendell recommend a maximum load on the front and rear racks? Also, I'm worried that a 60cm frame might be too small. The head tube didn't look that long in the pictures of a 60cm frame I saw. If I did my math correct, the 60cm is equivalent to a 66.63 cm (C-T) seat tube on a frame with a level top tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
on 3/26/10 1:14 PM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: > Do you celebrate the changing seasons by annually pulling off the > fenders for the summer and putting them back on for the winter? When > do you do it? By feel, by date, or in reaction to the threat of > weather? Or do you leave them on year-round? Across the bay in the North Bay. I actually like leaving the fenders on until June or so - just for the quizzical looks of the summer-only riders. That way, I'm also well past the potential for fender-removal or just-washed-bike precipitation generation. I find the act of changing fenders, racks, bags and intended purpose one of the true pleasures of having Rivendell bikes. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqageometry
on 3/26/10 7:37 AM, JoelMatthews at joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: > Where were the Belriots painted? I understand they were nice looking > bikes. Never saw one in person though. Those were painted on site in Taiwan. The most common complaint (and there weren't a lot) was generally about the lug masking and paint transitions - arguably the most difficult task of the paint job. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes "Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it." Mahatma Gandhi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Any bike, anywhere?
So Frank (on his Surly LHT) and I (on my '95 Riv Road) were taking a 50 ish mile route that I had mapped out some months back for the local club. On a past group ride, we made an in course adjustment, because one of the county roads, leading to some nice lake views, turned out to be coarse stones and red clay. Today, it was just the two of us, and Frank said, "Wanna go explore that dirt road? We have the tires." He was (is this the "in" word?) rocking (I can't keep "curating" or "palping" straight either) Bontrager Invert 35s and I had Maxy Fasty 33.4s. Both were peachy keen on backroads rough rider stuff. It's nice to have bikes that basically can go anywhere and do anything that the legs of the operator can push it to. Tailwinds.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
Nice to have that option isn't it? I haven't turned back from any trail on my Bleriot. Probably why it's about I'll I ride anymore. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2792757803_9c4bb5ccc1_b.jpg Rob On Mar 27, 10:52 am, Bruce wrote: > So Frank (on his Surly LHT) and I (on my '95 Riv Road) were taking a 50 ish > mile route that I had mapped out some months back for the local club. On a > past group ride, we made an in course adjustment, because one of the county > roads, leading to some nice lake views, turned out to be coarse stones and > red clay. Today, it was just the two of us, and Frank said, "Wanna go explore > that dirt road? We have the tires." He was (is this the "in" word?) rocking > (I can't keep "curating" or "palping" straight either) Bontrager Invert 35s > and I had Maxy Fasty 33.4s. Both were peachy keen on backroads rough rider > stuff. It's nice to have bikes that basically can go anywhere and do anything > that the legs of the operator can push it to. > > Tailwinds.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
> If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration as > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even though > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT studs. > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. You have a point. Although my counter is that the Racer is a modern (and lighter) version of the Mafac Competition, a brake that was on several Tour de France winners in the 1980s. I know a lot of amateur racers think highly of their abilities. Wonder how well they would do on the Tour if they and their no braze on bikes were put on a way back machine to the 1980s? On Mar 27, 11:21 am, "Rene Valbuena" wrote: > This brouhaha should not have happened if RBW (and Waterford?) did not agree > to grant the request to add a DT stud in the first place. Now everybody > thought we can semi-customize the Rodeo to our liking. The coming out of the > new Paul's Racer-M further stoked this. We want to semi-customize our Rodeo > to fit the new brake. > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration as > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even though > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT studs. > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > n Rene > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cyclotourist > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:38 AM > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive! > > Better yet, just have the unpainted bike sent to Nobilette and have him > braze them on. Wait time could be a hassle, but the extra shipping would > still vastly outweigh W'Ford's upcharge. Sheesh, it's not like've never > done canti posts before. In fact whatever set up for the first Racer posts > there is, while a pain (aren't they in the bike building business?) would be > a sales point as well. "First in the industry to offer mounts for Paul's > Racer-M" or some such advert. > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dustin Sharp wrote: > > I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the stays, > but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and > thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil. > > At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, at > least in the bigger sizes. They are billing it as a light, rackless, go-fast > bike, but it's still Grant Petersen conservative in its own way. > > Plus, there are other light tubed bikes (Boulder Bike) where Waterford > attaches canti studs w/ no fuss. > > So it would be interesting to have a better explanation for Waterford's > reticence. > > As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out > > > > > estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious > > unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses > > put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with > > what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have > > center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only > > wish I had them brazed on. > > > Marty > > > On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > >> Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word > >> from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If > >> demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the > >> folly of its ways. > > >> On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > >>> Well, that is too bad if true. > > >>> The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. > > >>> Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very > >>> easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of > >>> minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the > >>> handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull > >>> the levers to the grip to slow down. > > >>> On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William wrote: > > Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've > talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked > how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is > violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a > customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they > reluctantly said "OK for $500 extra". So, in conclusion, he said if I > had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So > there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of > Rivendells. > > Keven also pointed out all the obvious common sense things. The > center mount ones are already so strong, maybe too strong. What more > do you need?. If they are too strong you can replace them with less > strong center mount ones. Having a single-source for any of your > >>
[RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
And in any event, if not on the Roadeo - though the the Roadeo is the perfect match - why not the Hilsen? On Mar 27, 1:43 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration as > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even though > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT studs. > > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > You have a point. Although my counter is that the Racer is a modern > (and lighter) version of the Mafac Competition, a brake that was on > several Tour de France winners in the 1980s. > > I know a lot of amateur racers think highly of their abilities. > Wonder how well they would do on the Tour if they and their no braze > on bikes were put on a way back machine to the 1980s? > > On Mar 27, 11:21 am, "Rene Valbuena" wrote: > > > > > This brouhaha should not have happened if RBW (and Waterford?) did not agree > > to grant the request to add a DT stud in the first place. Now everybody > > thought we can semi-customize the Rodeo to our liking. The coming out of the > > new Paul's Racer-M further stoked this. We want to semi-customize our Rodeo > > to fit the new brake. > > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration as > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even though > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT studs. > > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > > n Rene > > > From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of cyclotourist > > Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 7:38 AM > > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive! > > > Better yet, just have the unpainted bike sent to Nobilette and have him > > braze them on. Wait time could be a hassle, but the extra shipping would > > still vastly outweigh W'Ford's upcharge. Sheesh, it's not like've never > > done canti posts before. In fact whatever set up for the first Racer posts > > there is, while a pain (aren't they in the bike building business?) would be > > a sales point as well. "First in the industry to offer mounts for Paul's > > Racer-M" or some such advert. > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:04 AM, Dustin Sharp wrote: > > > I don't understand the Waterford thing either. I don't know about the stays, > > but the tubes I know about on the Roadeo aren't exactly super light and > > thin, unless you are comparing them to the Bombadil. > > > At at least as stout as the Rambo, and stouter than the Legolas, I think, at > > least in the bigger sizes. They are billing it as a light, rackless, go-fast > > bike, but it's still Grant Petersen conservative in its own way. > > > Plus, there are other light tubed bikes (Boulder Bike) where Waterford > > attaches canti studs w/ no fuss. > > > So it would be interesting to have a better explanation for Waterford's > > reticence. > > > As for Waterford, that seemed to me a cop-out > > > > estimate, unless they can explain the issue. They can't be serious > > > unless they're talking about a re-paint as well. I'm having the bosses > > > put on an older frame as we speak, and the cost is more in line with > > > what Joel suggested. Also agree with him on the adjustability - I have > > > center mounts on a single speed that feel and work perfectly, only > > > wish I had them brazed on. > > > > Marty > > > > On Mar 26, 5:47 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > >> Oh, and the reason I say too bad if true is that at first the word > > >> from Riv was no DT braze ons for the Roadeo. Now it is an option. If > > >> demand is there, Riv may well find a way to convince Waterford the > > >> folly of its ways. > > > >> On Mar 26, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > >>> Well, that is too bad if true. > > > >>> The Brazeons modulate better than centerposts. > > > >>> Too strong would never be an issue. Pauls have near infinite and very > > >>> easy adjustability. Once you get the hang of it, in a matter of > > >>> minutes you can set the brakes where they will throw you over the > > >>> handlebars with barely a finger twitch or so slack you need to pull > > >>> the levers to the grip to slow down. > > > >>> On Mar 26, 4:38 pm, William wrote: > > > Speculating is fun, but I called and asked Keven for the answer. I've > > talked with him a few times about a Roadeo maybe next year, so I asked > > how it would work if I wanted Paul Racer posts. He said Waterford is > > violently opposed to posts. He asked them previously to do it for a > > customer and they said no. He asked more encouragingly and they > > reluctantly said "OK for $500 extra". So, in conclusion, he said if I > > had to have them, we should pursue a Nobillette built Riv custom. So > > there you have it. You can't get them, but it's no fault of > > Rivendells. >
Re: [RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
Nice pic of a nicely done Bleriot :) From: rob markwardt To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 1:39:03 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere? Nice to have that option isn't it? I haven't turned back from any trail on my Bleriot. Probably why it's about I'll I ride anymore. http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/2792757803_9c4bb5ccc1_b.jpg Rob -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
On Mar 27, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Bruce wrote: So Frank (on his Surly LHT) and I (on my '95 Riv Road) were taking a 50 ish mile route that I had mapped out some months back for the local club. On a past group ride, we made an in course adjustment, because one of the county roads, leading to some nice lake views, turned out to be coarse stones and red clay. Today, it was just the two of us, and Frank said, "Wanna go explore that dirt road? We have the tires." He was (is this the "in" word?) rocking (I can't keep "curating" or "palping" straight either) Bontrager Invert 35s and I had Maxy Fasty 33.4s. Both were peachy keen on backroads rough rider stuff. It's nice to have bikes that basically can go anywhere and do anything that the legs of the operator can push it to. Tailwinds.. For those who haven't seen what one can do with a standard "racing" bike: http://siliconvalleycyclist.com/rides/slideshow_coast.htm Most people still think this kind of riding "can't be done" on a "road bike." Notables in the photos include well known frame builder and entrepreneur Tom Ritchey, frame builder and machinist Peter Johnson, Jobst Brandt, etc... even one Sterling McBride (whom I am remembering as a Riv employee at some point, but maybe that was a different guy named Sterling). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne - a fully loaded tourer?
I am so buying one of those. Thanks for the link! On Mar 26, 6:13 pm, Phil Roberts wrote: > It's a LuxuryLite, around 2lbs. Expensive but comfy. I put it underneath my > tent so it doesn't rub the tent floor. That is unless I'm sleeping under the > stars.http://www.luxurylite.com/cotindex > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 3:04 PM, RoadieRyan wrote: > > Cot? can I ask what kind and how small it gets? that is the posh > > life ;-) > > > On Mar 26, 2:48 pm, Phil Roberts wrote: > > > I've done a few multi-day camp tours on mine. I know that's not like > > going > > > cross-country but I tend to bring all the creature comforts of home along > > > with me, including tent, cot, folding camp chair and enough water to > > travel > > > through high dry desert. Compared to my 83 Expedition it handles steep > > > climbs wonderfully holding a steady line when the going gets slow. I've > > > descended 40 mph full-load and not once felt like I would lose control. > > Fat > > > tires are heavenly on dirt washboard roads. > > > > Phil > > > AZ > > > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:27 PM, happyriding > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > > Has anyone done any fully loaded touring on a Sam Hillborne? > > > > According to the Riv website: > > > > > --You can ride your Sam Hillborne self-contained across the > > > > country..." > > > > > I'm wondering if a size 60 is up to the task. Or is it going to be > > > > speed wobbling all over the road? The tubes aren't as stout as the > > > > tubes on the Atlantis, which is available only in the mini sizes now. > > > > Anyone know if there are any orange 60's in stock? > > > > > Also, if you like pictures of bikes and haven't seen the pictures > > > > here, they are worth looking at: > > > > >http://www.ecovelo.info/2009/09/12/more-sam-h-pics/ > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/ecovelo/4148635160/in/set-72157611470108. > > .. > > > > > Beautiful photography. > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups > > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > . > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > > > > > > . > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne - a fully loaded tourer?
On Mar 27, 1:31 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > I am so buying one of those. Thanks for the link! > Well, then, you better not look at the pictures at the link I posted earlier--or you'll end up with two! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration > as > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even > though > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT > studs. > > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > You have a point. Although my counter is that the Racer is a modern > (and lighter) version of the Mafac Competition, a brake that was on > several Tour de France winners in the 1980s. > I don't think you can get much lighter than the Mafacs. I just weighed a complete front Mafac racer without pads and it was 142 g. I then made them braze-on ready by removing the center bolt back plate and they weighed only 86g. Jay Hartman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rim / Spoke Cracks... Should I be concerned?
Discovered these while cleaning the Saluki's rims today: http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468088476/ http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4467312843/ http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468086048/ Is it beausage or time to replace the rims? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rim / Spoke Cracks... Should I be concerned?
...you should only be concerned if you consider it bothersome to slide on chip seal at 30 mph in bicycle shorts. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rim / Spoke Cracks... Should I be concerned?
Rick, while your rims probably won't fall off anytime soon they should eventually be replaced. Those eyelet cracks are sometimes indicative of an overall tensioning problem with the wheel. I've had eyelets crack from too high tension (on a single-speed with no dish) and I've noticed them on one of my wheels that had too low tension. I also know that some rims are more prone to that. To date I have NOT had that happen to any of my Sun CR18s or Velocity Synergys. Everyone's mileage varies. Phil Roberts Chandler, AZ PS: Love your strip On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Rick Smith wrote: > Discovered these while cleaning the Saluki's rims today: > > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468088476/ > > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4467312843/ > > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468086048/ > > Is it beausage or time to replace the rims? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rim / Spoke Cracks... Should I be concerned?
On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 13:34 -0700, Rick Smith wrote: > Discovered these while cleaning the Saluki's rims today: > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468088476/ > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4467312843/ > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f0172dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468086048/ > > Is it beausage or time to replace the rims? > Yes it definitely is time to replace the rims. Velocity warranty replaced two of my rims that cracked that way at no charge. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
I too live in Portland and, like Mike, have a Quickbeam and dislike changing gears/fixing rear flats with fenders. So, I think the SKS p45s will come off in a few weeks. The summers here in Portland are pretty dry for the most part. And, besides, I want to fit in with all the hipster fixie riders in my neighborhood with the fenderless and fixed 'beam. ;-) ~ Ron On Mar 27, 7:22 am, Mike wrote: > Portland, Or. It rains here from time to time... My commuter has > fenders, SKS P45s, year round. I'll leave fenders, Berthouds, on the > Hilsen for my brevets but may take them off this summer if I want to > run my Schwalbe Marathons (700x41). I can fit tires up to 700x35 with > the Berthouds. The QB has SKS P45s on it for now. I may remove those > as they make "changing gears" a bit of a pain. We'll see. > > On my Rambouillet I had Berthoud 700x40s on with RT tires. I realized > I wanted to run a bigger tire and since I have other fendered bikes I > took them off. I also took off the Mark's rack. It now sports 700x32 > Paselas. I like the way the bike looks and rides stripped down. > > --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Where are you and when will you take the fenders off for the dry season?
I live SW of Portland, where there are a number of gravel roads. One bike is fendered all year long, and the Quickbeam is fendered most of the time. I don't remove the fenders seasonally - just as I get a whim. I can feel a change-up coming on. The mountain bike never has fenders; getting muddy is part of the fun. Philip On Mar 26, 2:14 pm, William wrote: > Do you celebrate the changing seasons by annually pulling off the > fenders for the summer and putting them back on for the winter? When > do you do it? By feel, by date, or in reaction to the threat of > weather? Or do you leave them on year-round? > > I live in El Cerrito, CA (just north of Berkeley). We had a little > rain this week, but I am tempted to take off the fenders from my > Hillborne pretty soon. It's freaking gorgeous out. I got the bike > last December, so I've never seen it built up without fenders. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
Admittedly do not have a good scale, but the cable, hanger and bolt on my Mafac Racers(all3sets)/Competition/Raids are heavier than Paul components. Raids feel heavier than regular Paul Racers. Mafac Competition calipers alone are pretty light. On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, Jason Hartman wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration > > as > > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even > > though > > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT > > studs. > > > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > > You have a point. Although my counter is that the Racer is a modern > > (and lighter) version of the Mafac Competition, a brake that was on > > several Tour de France winners in the 1980s. > > I don't think you can get much lighter than the Mafacs. > I just weighed a complete front Mafac racer without pads and it was 142 g. > I then made them braze-on ready by removing the center bolt back plate > and they weighed only 86g. > > Jay Hartman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] looking for thumb shifters
Hi, Does anyone have a pair of these (or even just the right one) of these shifters: http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4438316087/sizes/l/in/set-72157613334923082/ floating around that they would want to part ways with? 7/8/9sp - doesn't matter.. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
Although the RacerM appears to weigh more than your Mafac Racers. 113g per wheel for braze on. By the way, I checked out Shimano Ultegra Caliper weight: 294g per caliper. Not sure how much the braze on posts weight, but I doubt it would be much more, if as much, as the differenced between RacerM and Ultegras. So goes one more reason not to make a braze on version of the Roadeo. On Mar 27, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > Admittedly do not have a good scale, but the cable, hanger and bolt on > my Mafac Racers(all3sets)/Competition/Raids are heavier than Paul > components. Raids feel heavier than regular Paul Racers. Mafac > Competition calipers alone are pretty light. > > On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, Jason Hartman wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest configuration > > > as > > > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even > > > though > > > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT > > > studs. > > > > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > > > You have a point. Although my counter is that the Racer is a modern > > > (and lighter) version of the Mafac Competition, a brake that was on > > > several Tour de France winners in the 1980s. > > > I don't think you can get much lighter than the Mafacs. > > I just weighed a complete front Mafac racer without pads and it was 142 g. > > I then made them braze-on ready by removing the center bolt back plate > > and they weighed only 86g. > > > Jay Hartman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rim / Spoke Cracks... Should I be concerned?
On Mar 27, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Rick Smith wrote: Is it beausage or time to replace the rims? Replace. The cracked one, anyway, which is usually on the rear. Front rims crack much less often. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Racer M Alive!
I'm still perplexed by waterford. When the AHH was new, and being built exclusively by Waterford, I tried to order one with canti studs and a crown braze-on to screw a metal fender into, and the quote for that was also $500. That's how I ended up with the Ebisu All Purpose. Anyway, I'm sure these are great brakes. I have the neos on the Ebisu and love them and am about to take possession of a Bilenky tandem with posted racers. I look forward to adding these to my Rambouillet. As for 33.3 and fenders; I don't think the fender width or brake is the limiting factor on that frame; it's the fork blade length not leaving enough height for fenders and the 33. I think in the last decade there has been a real surge in really good American made components and I'm glad to support that. These brakes are expensive but I expect them to out live me. Michael On Mar 27, 6:16 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > Although the RacerM appears to weigh more than your Mafac Racers. > 113g per wheel for braze on. > > By the way, I checked out Shimano Ultegra Caliper weight: 294g per > caliper. Not sure how much the braze on posts weight, but I doubt it > would be much more, if as much, as the differenced between RacerM and > Ultegras. > > So goes one more reason not to make a braze on version of the > Roadeo. > > On Mar 27, 4:45 pm, JoelMatthews wrote: > > > > > Admittedly do not have a good scale, but the cable, hanger and bolt on > > my Mafac Racers(all3sets)/Competition/Raids are heavier than Paul > > components. Raids feel heavier than regular Paul Racers. Mafac > > Competition calipers alone are pretty light. > > > On Mar 27, 3:18 pm, Jason Hartman wrote: > > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:43 PM, JoelMatthews > > > wrote: > > > > > If I remember it right, the Rodeo is built to the lightest > > > > > configuration > > > > as > > > > > Grant "the conservative" would allow it. Thus, to save weight, even > > > > though > > > > > minimal but at least weight-saving, there will be no cantis and no DT > > > > studs. > > > > > Much like the racer road bikes in carbon, aluminum and titanium. > > > > > You have a point. Although my counter is that the Racer is a modern > > > > (and lighter) version of the Mafac Competition, a brake that was on > > > > several Tour de France winners in the 1980s. > > > > I don't think you can get much lighter than the Mafacs. > > > I just weighed a complete front Mafac racer without pads and it was 142 g. > > > I then made them braze-on ready by removing the center bolt back plate > > > and they weighed only 86g. > > > > Jay Hartman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Front end dog carrier
A while back I asked about a front mounted carrier for my wife's 11 lb. mini dachsund, Sam. Someone pointed me to the baskets coming out of Basil. Does anyone else have experience or a suggestion? Michael Westford, Vt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] looking for thumb shifters
Hey, I may have a set of Suntour thumb shifters. Cheers! On Mar 27, 2010, at 3:15 PM, Seth Vidal wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone have a pair of these (or even just the right one) of > these shifters: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/4438316087/sizes/l/in/set-72157613334923082/ > > floating around that they would want to part ways with? > > > 7/8/9sp - doesn't matter.. > > -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > James Valiensi, PE Northridge, CA H818.775.1847 M.818.585.1796 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell - a set on Flickr
A Rivendell on Rivendell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623591450279/ Enjoy! --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: powder coat and decals?
Thanks for the info... one more question.. Should the frame be clear-coated after the decals go on? and would most poweder coaters be able to clear-coat as well..? I'm sure it depends on who I take it to...but I actually don't think there are that many options here in NYC. thanks again On Mar 27, 9:24 am, newenglandbike wrote: > Definitely call Rivendell- they sent me decals when I had my frame > powdercoated, and were very helpful on the phone, explaining the > proper technique for putting them on. They even posted a web video > about it: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-6Jya6H4lY > > Note: They do make it look easy in the video- and it is, but only if > you're using the proper technique of 'burnishing' the decal to the > surface. Just watch the video closely a couple times and you > shouldn't have any problems. > > On Mar 26, 10:57 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > > > After a scary, but totally non-destructive crash, my bike has major > > scrapes. > > frame is fine, but i'm thinking of having it powder coated by a place > > in the bronx. > > its a hillborne, and I'm wondering if Rivendell will send out > > replacement decals. > > Anyone have experience with this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: powder coat and decals?
No you don't have to clear-coat over the decals- they are the 'top- mount' kind if i'm not mistaken. They are extremely durable though. On Mar 27, 7:20 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Thanks for the info... > one more question.. > Should the frame be clear-coated after the decals go on? > and would most poweder coaters be able to clear-coat as well..? > I'm sure it depends on who I take it to...but I actually don't think > there are that many options here in NYC. > thanks again > > On Mar 27, 9:24 am, newenglandbike wrote: > > > Definitely call Rivendell- they sent me decals when I had my frame > > powdercoated, and were very helpful on the phone, explaining the > > proper technique for putting them on.They even posted a web video > > about it: > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-6Jya6H4lY > > > Note: They do make it look easy in the video- and it is, but only if > > you're using the proper technique of 'burnishing' the decal to the > > surface.Just watch the video closely a couple times and you > > shouldn't have any problems. > > > On Mar 26, 10:57 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > > After a scary, but totally non-destructive crash, my bike has major > > > scrapes. > > > frame is fine, but i'm thinking of having it powder coated by a place > > > in the bronx. > > > its a hillborne, and I'm wondering if Rivendell will send out > > > replacement decals. > > > Anyone have experience with this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo.
It was a gorgeous day here, so I took a ride on my Canti-Rom -- the first ride on it in weeks. I dusted it off (literally, as it was stored behind my table saw) and pumped up the small tires (28s) and rode 34 miles through Marin and back to the city. What a great riding bike. No Roadeo need apply. It always amazes me how much faster the Rom is over the Atlantis (35mm tires) and the Quickbeam (33 mm tires). I really forget sometimes how snappy it feels when compared to those others in the stable. A lot of fun. I should do that more often! Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: looking for thumb shifters
Seth, I have a couple pair of Shimano's too. If James' won't work, let me know. Brad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hunqapillar L'Orange
Another color version just back from the painter - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4467798527/ more pix after my ride... - Jim -- cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar L'Orange
>From that pic, I definitely like the kidney bean red color much better. will be interesting to see the whole bike though. Matt On Mar 27, 5:09 pm, cyclofiend wrote: > Another color version just back from the painter - > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4467798527/ > > more pix after my ride... > > - Jim > > -- > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo.
What hubs do you have on the Canti Rom? Reason I ask, I have Maxi Cars on the Bruce Gordon. Rims are Velocity Dyad. Tires 38 Marathon Supremes. It is going to be awhile before I have time for a camping trip, so I have the racks off. Today I took it for about a 40 mile ride. The Gordon is not a fast bike. It is not meant to be. But those Maxi Cars roll so well I was able to fall into a great cadence. Before I knew it, I was zipping by just about everyone on the paths. Still not all that crowded here in Chicago. The day looked sumptuous, but there was a definite nip in the air and a bit of a wind. Weather person says tomorrow is going to be miserable, then a warming trend that should see a block of 70s. Yipee (Course that means back on the roads for me. Trails the first real warm days of Spring are about the most dangerous place to ride, what with all the first timers.) On Mar 27, 6:51 pm, Ray wrote: > It was a gorgeous day here, so I took a ride on my Canti-Rom -- the > first ride on it in weeks. I dusted it off (literally, as it was > stored behind my table saw) and pumped up the small tires (28s) and > rode 34 miles through Marin and back to the city. What a great riding > bike. No Roadeo need apply. > > It always amazes me how much faster the Rom is over the Atlantis (35mm > tires) and the Quickbeam (33 mm tires). I really forget sometimes how > snappy it feels when compared to those others in the stable. A lot of > fun. > > I should do that more often! > > Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell - a set on Flickr
Rich! Great find. On Mar 27, 6:20 pm, Eric Norris wrote: > A Rivendell on Rivendell: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623591450279/ > > Enjoy! > > --Eric > campyonly...@me.comwww.campyonly.comwww.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar L'Orange
I'm digging the orange and gray myself- but then again orange is a favorite color of mine. On Mar 27, 8:11 pm, Matt Critchlow wrote: > From that pic, I definitely like the kidney bean red color much > better. will be interesting to see the whole bike though. > > Matt > > On Mar 27, 5:09 pm, cyclofiend wrote: > > > Another color version just back from the painter - > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4467798527/ > > > more pix after my ride... > > > - Jim > > > -- > > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar L'Orange
If you did the orange, with the Betty Foy blue behind it, it would almost be a Gulf GT colors that'd be cool (especially for a Roadeo...) On Mar 27, 8:56 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > I'm digging the orange and gray myself- but then again orange is a > favorite color of mine. > > On Mar 27, 8:11 pm, Matt Critchlow wrote: > > > From that pic, I definitely like the kidney bean red color much > > better. will be interesting to see the whole bike though. > > > Matt > > > On Mar 27, 5:09 pm, cyclofiend wrote: > > > > Another color version just back from the painter - > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/4467798527/ > > > > more pix after my ride... > > > > - Jim > > > > -- > > > > cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo.
Joel -- They are Shimano Ultegra hubs, Mavic Open Pro rims, and Ruffy-Tuffy 700x27 tires. A basic Rich Lesnik build. Of course, I've never had a bit of trouble with those wheels. Rich builds great wheels. From: JoelMatthews To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 5:41:48 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo. What hubs do you have on the Canti Rom? Reason I ask, I have Maxi Cars on the Bruce Gordon. Rims are Velocity Dyad. Tires 38 Marathon Supremes. It is going to be awhile before I have time for a camping trip, so I have the racks off. Today I took it for about a 40 mile ride. The Gordon is not a fast bike. It is not meant to be. But those Maxi Cars roll so well I was able to fall into a great cadence. Before I knew it, I was zipping by just about everyone on the paths. Still not all that crowded here in Chicago. The day looked sumptuous, but there was a definite nip in the air and a bit of a wind. Weather person says tomorrow is going to be miserable, then a warming trend that should see a block of 70s. Yipee (Course that means back on the roads for me. Trails the first real warm days of Spring are about the most dangerous place to ride, what with all the first timers.) On Mar 27, 6:51 pm, Ray wrote: > It was a gorgeous day here, so I took a ride on my Canti-Rom -- the > first ride on it in weeks. I dusted it off (literally, as it was > stored behind my table saw) and pumped up the small tires (28s) and > rode 34 miles through Marin and back to the city. What a great riding > bike. No Roadeo need apply. > > It always amazes me how much faster the Rom is over the Atlantis (35mm > tires) and the Quickbeam (33 mm tires). I really forget sometimes how > snappy it feels when compared to those others in the stable. A lot of > fun. > > I should do that more often! > > Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo.
Joel -- I meant to also say that Chicago is a great town. I love Chicago… From: JoelMatthews To: RBW Owners Bunch Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 5:41:48 PM Subject: [RBW] Re: OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo. What hubs do you have on the Canti Rom? Reason I ask, I have Maxi Cars on the Bruce Gordon. Rims are Velocity Dyad. Tires 38 Marathon Supremes. It is going to be awhile before I have time for a camping trip, so I have the racks off. Today I took it for about a 40 mile ride. The Gordon is not a fast bike. It is not meant to be. But those Maxi Cars roll so well I was able to fall into a great cadence. Before I knew it, I was zipping by just about everyone on the paths. Still not all that crowded here in Chicago. The day looked sumptuous, but there was a definite nip in the air and a bit of a wind. Weather person says tomorrow is going to be miserable, then a warming trend that should see a block of 70s. Yipee (Course that means back on the roads for me. Trails the first real warm days of Spring are about the most dangerous place to ride, what with all the first timers.) On Mar 27, 6:51 pm, Ray wrote: > It was a gorgeous day here, so I took a ride on my Canti-Rom -- the > first ride on it in weeks. I dusted it off (literally, as it was > stored behind my table saw) and pumped up the small tires (28s) and > rode 34 miles through Marin and back to the city. What a great riding > bike. No Roadeo need apply. > > It always amazes me how much faster the Rom is over the Atlantis (35mm > tires) and the Quickbeam (33 mm tires). I really forget sometimes how > snappy it feels when compared to those others in the stable. A lot of > fun. > > I should do that more often! > > Ray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo.
Ray, I've had the same experiences. I wanted to be tempted by the Roadeo, but the Rambouillet won't let it happen. -Original Message- >From: Ray >Sent: Mar 27, 2010 4:51 PM >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Subject: [RBW] OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo. > >It was a gorgeous day here, so I took a ride on my Canti-Rom -- the >first ride on it in weeks. I dusted it off (literally, as it was >stored behind my table saw) and pumped up the small tires (28s) and >rode 34 miles through Marin and back to the city. What a great riding >bike. No Roadeo need apply. > >It always amazes me how much faster the Rom is over the Atlantis (35mm >tires) and the Quickbeam (33 mm tires). I really forget sometimes how >snappy it feels when compared to those others in the stable. A lot of >fun. > >I should do that more often! > >Ray > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW >Owners Bunch" group. >To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any bike, anywhere?
Call it whatever you like, just don't let your pants yabbies show. On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Bruce wrote: > So Frank (on his Surly LHT) and I (on my '95 Riv Road) were taking a 50 ish > mile route that I had mapped out some months back for the local club. On a > past group ride, we made an in course adjustment, because one of the county > roads, leading to some nice lake views, turned out to be coarse stones and > red clay. Today, it was just the two of us, and Frank said, "Wanna go > explore that dirt road? We have the tires." He was (is this the "in" word?) > rocking (I can't keep "curating" or "palping" straight either) Bontrager > Invert 35s and I had Maxy Fasty 33.4s. Both were peachy keen on backroads > rough rider stuff. It's nice to have bikes that basically can go anywhere > and do anything that the legs of the operator can push it to. > > Tailwinds.. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Any bike, anywhere?
Oh, yeah: RBWB UNCH On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:50 PM, cyclotourist wrote: > Call it whatever you like, just don't let your pants yabbies show. > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Bruce wrote: > >> So Frank (on his Surly LHT) and I (on my '95 Riv Road) were taking a 50 >> ish mile route that I had mapped out some months back for the local club. On >> a past group ride, we made an in course adjustment, because one of the >> county roads, leading to some nice lake views, turned out to be coarse >> stones and red clay. Today, it was just the two of us, and Frank said, >> "Wanna go explore that dirt road? We have the tires." He was (is this the >> "in" word?) rocking (I can't keep "curating" or "palping" straight either) >> Bontrager Invert 35s and I had Maxy Fasty 33.4s. Both were peachy keen on >> backroads rough rider stuff. It's nice to have bikes that basically can go >> anywhere and do anything that the legs of the operator can push it to. >> >> Tailwinds.. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > scientist guy > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
Was that Mark Sisson of the Primal Blueprint sold by Riv? On Mar 27, 12:15 pm, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Mar 27, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Bruce wrote: > > > So Frank (on his Surly LHT) and I (on my '95 Riv Road) were taking > > a 50 ish mile route that I had mapped out some months back for the > > local club. On a past group ride, we made an in course adjustment, > > because one of the county roads, leading to some nice lake views, > > turned out to be coarse stones and red clay. Today, it was just the > > two of us, and Frank said, "Wanna go explore that dirt road? We > > have the tires." He was (is this the "in" word?) rocking (I can't > > keep "curating" or "palping" straight either) Bontrager Invert 35s > > and I had Maxy Fasty 33.4s. Both were peachy keen on backroads > > rough rider stuff. It's nice to have bikes that basically can go > > anywhere and do anything that the legs of the operator can push it to. > > > Tailwinds.. > > For those who haven't seen what one can do with a standard "racing" > bike: > > http://siliconvalleycyclist.com/rides/slideshow_coast.htm > > Most people still think this kind of riding "can't be done" on a > "road bike." Notables in the photos include well known frame builder > and entrepreneur Tom Ritchey, frame builder and machinist Peter > Johnson, Jobst Brandt, etc... even one Sterling McBride (whom I am > remembering as a Riv employee at some point, but maybe that was a > different guy named Sterling). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] wanted 7 speed barcons
Hi all does anyone have a pair of 7 speed bar end shifters they'd like to sell or trade for a set of suntour friction barcons? thanks Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
"Most people still think this kind of riding 'can't be done' on a 'road bike.'" That's an excellent slide show, but I can't help noticing that they're walking their bikes over stuff that Rob's Bleriot could ride, no problem. On Mar 27, 11:15 am, Tim McNamara wrote: > On Mar 27, 2010, at 12:52 PM, Bruce wrote: > > > So Frank (on his Surly LHT) and I (on my '95 Riv Road) were taking > > a 50 ish mile route that I had mapped out some months back for the > > local club. On a past group ride, we made an in course adjustment, > > because one of the county roads, leading to some nice lake views, > > turned out to be coarse stones and red clay. Today, it was just the > > two of us, and Frank said, "Wanna go explore that dirt road? We > > have the tires." He was (is this the "in" word?) rocking (I can't > > keep "curating" or "palping" straight either) Bontrager Invert 35s > > and I had Maxy Fasty 33.4s. Both were peachy keen on backroads > > rough rider stuff. It's nice to have bikes that basically can go > > anywhere and do anything that the legs of the operator can push it to. > > > Tailwinds.. > > For those who haven't seen what one can do with a standard "racing" > bike: > > http://siliconvalleycyclist.com/rides/slideshow_coast.htm > > Most people still think this kind of riding "can't be done" on a > "road bike." Notables in the photos include well known frame builder > and entrepreneur Tom Ritchey, frame builder and machinist Peter > Johnson, Jobst Brandt, etc... even one Sterling McBride (whom I am > remembering as a Riv employee at some point, but maybe that was a > different guy named Sterling). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar L'Orange
on 3/27/10 5:15 PM, Leslie at leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: > If you did the orange, with the Betty Foy blue behind it, it would > almost be a Gulf GT colors that'd be cool (especially for a > Roadeo...) The color balance looks a little off from actual (but everyone's monitor varys...), so I'll try to tweak it so it's a bit more accurate. More photos to phollow... - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Rim / Spoke Cracks... Should I be concerned?
on 3/27/10 12:34 PM, Rick Smith at rick_sm...@sulfurstar.com wrote: > Discovered these while cleaning the Saluki's rims today: > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f017 > 2dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468088476/ > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f017 > 2dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4467312843/ > > http://m.flickr.com/?done=1&id=4468086048&magic_cookie=60a853592b9cce68b74f017 > 2dda07f87&title=Spoke+crack&description=#/photos/74396...@n00/4468086048/ > > Is it beausage or time to replace the rims? Cracks are not beausage. New rim time. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Your Photos are needed! - http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as much as a sandwich." -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OK. So, I won't be buying a Roadeo.
on 3/27/10 6:24 PM, James Warren at jimcwar...@earthlink.net wrote: > I've had the same experiences. I wanted to be tempted by the Roadeo, but the > Rambouillet won't let it happen. I was over at RBWHQ&L and rolled around on the Roadeo. I think it was one of the least clever moves I've made in several years. It feels fast and nimble, yet with the Jack Browns on it it's as surefooted as all get out. More of a report to follow. But. hew dawgie. that's a nice riding bike. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net ³Velvet pillows, safari parks, sunglasses: people have become woolly mice. They still have bodies that can walk for five days and four nights through a desert of snow, without food, but they accept praise for having taken a one-hour bicycle ride.² - Tim Krabbe, "The Rider" Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
on 3/27/10 11:15 AM, Tim McNamara at tim...@bitstream.net wrote: > For those who haven't seen what one can do with a standard "racing" > bike: > > http://siliconvalleycyclist.com/rides/slideshow_coast.htm > > Most people still think this kind of riding "can't be done" on a > "road bike." Notables in the photos include well known frame builder > and entrepreneur Tom Ritchey, frame builder and machinist Peter > Johnson, Jobst Brandt, etc... even one Sterling McBride (whom I am > remembering as a Riv employee at some point, but maybe that was a > different guy named Sterling). I _think_ you are thinking of Sterling H, who is a different fellow. Those rides are the legendary "Jobst" rides, a true piece of west coast cycling lore. There are a few tales of them, and Tom Ritchey mentions them in the Reader interview from a few years back. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Get your photos posted: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "Then I sat up, wiped the water out of my eyes, and looked at my bike, and just like that I knew it was dead" -- Robert McCammon, "Boy's Life" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] wanted 7 speed barcons
I have a set of Shimano 7 speed, indexed downtube shifters. You could mount them on Riv Silver bar cons. Sean --- On Sat, 3/27/10, ejg wrote: From: ejg Subject: [RBW] wanted 7 speed barcons To: "RBW Owners Bunch" Date: Saturday, March 27, 2010, 8:54 PM Hi all does anyone have a pair of 7 speed bar end shifters they'd like to sell or trade for a set of suntour friction barcons? thanks Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar L'Orange
I like it! On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:06 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > on 3/27/10 5:15 PM, Leslie at leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: > > > If you did the orange, with the Betty Foy blue behind it, it would > > almost be a Gulf GT colors that'd be cool (especially for a > > Roadeo...) > > The color balance looks a little off from actual (but everyone's monitor > varys...), so I'll try to tweak it so it's a bit more accurate. > > More photos to phollow... > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] looking for thumb shifters
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 7:05 PM, James Valiensi wrote: > Hey, > I may have a set of Suntour thumb shifters. > Cheers! > I'm pretty sure I have a pair of suntours - but the mountain band won't fit the bars I have. It's why I'm looking for the shimanos - they are easy to resize if they are on the metal mount. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Ian Dickson wrote: > That's an excellent slide show, but I can't help noticing that they're > walking their bikes over stuff that Rob's Bleriot could ride, no > problem. Well, maybe, but I knew several of those guys, and I know a lot of the routes, too. The places where they're walking are not just difficult terrain, but difficult steep terrain. -- -- Anne Paulson My hovercraft is full of eels -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Speaking of anybike, anywhere....
A bunch of the SoCalians got together to watch the bike races in my little town. Good stuff there, but even better, we had an excuse to go riding! Did three of the local trails, totally about 15 miles I believe. Much hike-a-biking, but a great lunch to smooth over any hard feelings :-) Pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623717142034/ -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] There was a Rivendell ride today?!?
I so totally missed this ride! I really wanted to do some climbing today too, but I didn't see the post for the ride till today. Did anyone else see the post? Hope I can go to the next one. Look forward to exploring some hills in walnut creek. -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] There was a Rivendell ride today?!?
Apparently it was a 10! On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 9:45 PM, manueljohnacosta < manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com> wrote: > I so totally missed this ride! I really wanted to do some climbing > today too, but I didn't see the post for the ride till today. Did > anyone else see the post? Hope I can go to the next one. Look forward > to exploring some hills in walnut creek. > > -Manny > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of anybike, anywhere....
Nice photos of our ride, David. But what about the Redlands Classic bike races? dougP On Mar 27, 9:21 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > A bunch of the SoCalians got together to watch the bike races in my little > town. Good stuff there, but even better, we had an excuse to go riding! > Did three of the local trails, totally about 15 miles I believe. Much > hike-a-biking, but a great lunch to smooth over any hard feelings :-) > > Pics here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623717142034/ > > -- > Cheers, > David > Redlands, CA > > "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something > wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, > scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any bike, anywhere?
On Mar 27, 2010, at 10:58 PM, Anne Paulson wrote: On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Ian Dickson wrote: That's an excellent slide show, but I can't help noticing that they're walking their bikes over stuff that Rob's Bleriot could ride, no problem. Well, maybe, but I knew several of those guys, and I know a lot of the routes, too. The places where they're walking are not just difficult terrain, but difficult steep terrain. In one or two pictures someone's even carrying what looks to be a mountain bike. Must have been a very early one, I'd guess. Those photos make me realize how boring the terrain is around here. That's not necessarily a complaint as often I just want to go on a nice bike ride and not a full-tilt adventure. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] test
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[RBW] Re: There was a Rivendell ride today?!?
I'd read about it, but wasn't clear this morning. Had to pass. Definitely want to hit the next one. - Jim - On Mar 27, 9:45 pm, manueljohnacosta wrote: > I so totally missed this ride! I really wanted to do some climbing > today too, but I didn't see the post for the ride till today. Did > anyone else see the post? Hope I can go to the next one. Look forward > to exploring some hills in walnut creek. > > -Manny -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Test Ride-O-Rama
Went over to the RBWHQ&L to pick up my Rich-built QB replacement wheel, and had a grand time bumping into folks, chatting with Grant, meeting Harry in person (FINALLY!) and enjoying a series of loops and circuits around the local streets on a variety of bicycles. Sam Hillborne, Betty Foy, SOMA San Marco (Amos), and the Roadeo. Each had their personality, but all had the Rivendell Ride. Also got to check out the newly painted Hunqapillar Prototype frame, looking resplendent in grey and orange. Photos appear in this set - http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157623592760757/ Enjoy! - Jim -- cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Test Ride-O-Rama
Grey and Orange for the win! I might have to do it now. Darn you. On Mar 27, 11:21 pm, cyclofiend wrote: > Went over to the RBWHQ&L to pick up my Rich-built QB replacement > wheel, and had a grand time bumping into folks, chatting with Grant, > meeting Harry in person (FINALLY!) and enjoying a series of loops and > circuits around the local streets on a variety of bicycles. Sam > Hillborne, Betty Foy, SOMA San Marco (Amos), and the Roadeo. Each had > their personality, but all had the Rivendell Ride. Also got to check > out the newly painted Hunqapillar Prototype frame, looking resplendent > in grey and orange. > > Photos appear in this set > -http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclofiend/sets/72157623592760757/ > > Enjoy! > > - Jim > > -- > cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
