date:20100418

Jim-

Sorry to place you in a quandary with the topic and post.  Didn't mean
to do that at all.

Guess, in the end, what I was shooting for was basically 2 things:

1.  How crazy things can be and are 'out there', and to that end,
looking within ourselves at the variations in our own lives that
either contribute to that/or help reduce it.

2.  To never take any 'thing' for granted in what ever apples we have
in our baskets collectively vs. the ones that spilled [got away] out
along the way.

Again, sorry for the Off-Topic'ness of my topic.

Back to my batcave...

-Scott

On Apr 18, 11:27 pm, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 4/18/10 9:19 PM, Me at clotht...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > You're welcome, Bill [how are you by the way?].
>
> > And yes, I am Scott Cutshall [=Me].
>
> > And to the one poster who found it funny: no, it's not a screenplay
> > but I do wish it was, because I find it all very sad.
>
> > PS-> if it is too far Off-Topic for the Group, -again-, Jim can pull
> > the whole schebang off.
>
> Dang. I take one afternoon off and we're wy out here on the topic
> spectrum ;^)
>
> It is demonstrably off-topic.  No question about that one.
>
> It is also one of those things you read and just stop and wonder over and
> ponder about.  Which makes me a bit loathe to delete it.
>
> It's just a staggeringly sad tale.  All of those involved need some help. It
> makes me appreciate more the people who have to work in places like that and
> see things this bad and worse.
>
> I appreciate the fact that so many people were able to not comment about it.
> There's not a lot to say, certainly nothing we're going to solve here.
>
> But stories like this always help me to distill once again the people I'm
> lucky enough to know and have known, who continue to - or just once very
> tangentially such that maybe they didn't even know it - help with support,
> advice and deed.
>
> GooGroups won't let me lock a thread.  So, if it keeps accumulating
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

on 4/18/10 9:19 PM, Me at clotht...@gmail.com wrote:

> You're welcome, Bill [how are you by the way?].
> 
> And yes, I am Scott Cutshall [=Me].
> 
> And to the one poster who found it funny: no, it's not a screenplay
> but I do wish it was, because I find it all very sad.
> 
> PS-> if it is too far Off-Topic for the Group, -again-, Jim can pull
> the whole schebang off.

Dang. I take one afternoon off and we're wy out here on the topic
spectrum ;^)

It is demonstrably off-topic.  No question about that one.

It is also one of those things you read and just stop and wonder over and
ponder about.  Which makes me a bit loathe to delete it.

It's just a staggeringly sad tale.  All of those involved need some help. It
makes me appreciate more the people who have to work in places like that and
see things this bad and worse.

I appreciate the fact that so many people were able to not comment about it.
There's not a lot to say, certainly nothing we're going to solve here.

But stories like this always help me to distill once again the people I'm
lucky enough to know and have known, who continue to - or just once very
tangentially such that maybe they didn't even know it - help with support,
advice and deed. 

GooGroups won't let me lock a thread.  So, if it keeps accumulating
comments, I'll end up deleting it.  Maybe I'll post it into the "pages"
section, which will effectively static-ize it.

Please do not take this as tacit approval for non-Riv threads and topics.

- Jim / List Admin 

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[RBW] Re: Hilsen and tire clearance.

I do ride my JB greens off-road, though they are less fun than my 42mm
IRC Mythos XC Slicks. Have gotten one pinch flat on a high speed
descend on a gravel road with sharp fist-sized rocks, running around
35-40 psi with a bike+rider weight of 210 lbs.

Gernot


On Apr 17, 8:38 pm, Mike  wrote:
> Over the winter I was using Panaracer t-serves in 700x35. I've used JB
> greens for the last two brevets and they're a great road tire but I'd
> be hesitant to use them off-road. The biggest tire I ever put on it
> was a Schwalbe Marathon 700x47 which I guess measures 41. The current
> Marathons I have on there are marked 700x40 but I think are a tad
> smaller.
>
> Here's a link to the 
> 47s:http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/schwalbe-marathon/10-068
>
> My Hilsen with 
> 47s:http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3831147247/in/set-721576220...
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/3770135967/in/set-721576217...
>
> Cyclofiend, you might want to try the T-serves or Paselas in 35,
> they'd probably be perfect for you.
>
> --mike
>
> On Apr 16, 11:20 pm, happyriding  wrote:
>
> > Your Hilsen looks good in the woods.  What size tires do you normally
> > use for road riding?
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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Esteban

Grant's written about fitness and sensibility.  Rivendell's riding
philosophy runs against extremes - x-treme "training" and extreme
eating.  This story is instructive.

Esteban
San Diego, Calif.

On Apr 18, 9:19 pm, Me  wrote:
> You're welcome, Bill [how are you by the way?].
>
> And yes, I am Scott Cutshall [=Me].
>
> And to the one poster who found it funny: no, it's not a screenplay
> but I do wish it was, because I find it all very sad.
>
> PS-> if it is too far Off-Topic for the Group, -again-, Jim can pull
> the whole schebang off.
>
> -Scott
>
> On Apr 18, 8:09 pm, Bill Connell  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > It is Scott, he signed his name. It's a really sad story, and i can
> > only imagine how hard it would be for his wife to not say anything
> > about Scott's experience with his weight. People have to choose change
> > for themselves, but when there are enablers and ignorance of the
> > alternatives in life, a little window to a different world can make
> > all the difference. It makes me sad to think of all the lost options
> > in their lives when someone's weight gets so high.
>
> > Thanks for sharing, Scott.
>
> > Bill
>
> > On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM, rperks  wrote:
> > > FYI - I think Me is Scott, but maybe I am off
>
> > > On Apr 18, 4:45 pm, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> > >> On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
>
> > >> > It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
> > >> > large that they were literally disabled.
>
> > >> I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living
> > >> in a nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid
> > >> obesity.  And probably not going to make it to 50.
>
> > >> It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.
>
> > >> This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and
> > >> was quite literally feeding him to death.
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[RBW] Re: Cantilever Brake issue on Hillborne

I am not using a daruma because my plastic Berthoud/SKS fenders have a
riveted L-bracket. I don't think the fork crown on the 650B Sams is
different. It's just that the Tektro fork crown cable hanger is very
thick (it needs to be very stiff).

Gernot

On Apr 18, 8:44 pm, "carnerda...@bellsouth.net"
 wrote:
> I may have missed this before, but is there a reason you have not tried
> the fork crown daruma?
> Also, for those who have or are considering 650B Sam Hillbornes, the
> fork crown dimensions must be different.  I have a Nitto mini rack on my
> 52 and the bolt is long enough to fit a spacer on the front and a thick
> washer on the back.
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4504006453/
>
> Cannot be sure since I am using V-brakes, but looks like there would be
> room for the fork crown hanger and the L-bracket.
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> Earl Grey wrote:
> > I have a 56cm SH with 720 Tektros: with the Tektro forkcrown-mounted
> > cable stop, no problems. Switched to a headset-mounted stop (to
> > install Nitto front rack and fenders), squeal (but no shudder),
> > regardless of toe-in settings with stock pads. Switched to VO squeal-
> > free pads, no problems, regardless of toe-in position.
>
> > I highly recommend the forkcrown-mounted cable hanger, if your setup
> > can accommodate it (if you have a Nitto mini front and a fender that
> > mounts to the rack bolt with an L-bracket, adding the cable hanger
> > doesn't work on my Sam because the Nitto bolt (integral to the rack)
> > is just a bit too short. Without the fender, I could just make it
> > work, but with the fender, no dice). 
> > Seehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/
> > for the cable forkcrown-mounted hanger.
>
> > Gernot
>
> > On Apr 18, 12:38 am, rperks  wrote:
>
> >> Second what he said, and go through the standards: Clean the rims with
> >> alchohol, some even sand them lightly.  If that does not do it try
> >> lightly sanding or filing the pads to clean them as well.  Next stop
> >> is Pauls or V-Brakes.  I went through this with my Cross-check, but
> >> the judder was at all speeds, as set of mini-v brakes brought it
> >> almost to a omplete stop, but I was so tired of fiddling with it I
> >> sold the bike and bought the Rawland with discs.  The stud slop is
> >> only one weak link in the system, and I believe it helps to magnify
> >> every other weak spot in the system.
>
> >> The other possibility is that with the wide profile and High cable
> >> they may be too powerful.  Sounds hard to swallow, but I can make the
> >> fork hop on the rawland with discs.  Watch the front wheel closely
> >> when you are doing this and see if it is spinning in a stop start kind
> >> of a thing or locked up and hopping along like a pogo stick.
>
> >> Rob
>
> >> On Apr 17, 10:22 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
>
> >>> on 4/17/10 9:51 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>  I find it strange that some SH owners have this issue while others
>  have not had an issue. My pads were installed flush, but they are
>  koolstop MTB pads with the the designed to provide tow-in
>  automatically. I get no squeal just the low-speed shudder.  I will
>  look into pad angle.
>
> >>> Pad angle will definitely cause that issue. I've had that happen with and
> >>> without accompanying squawking. The Kool Stops also tend to bite a newer 
> >>> rim
> >>> a lot better than most pads. New pads + New rims = shudder, IME.
>
> >>> I've never been able to run the KS pads flush. Always put a touch o' 
> >>> toe-in
> >>> on them.
>
> >>> I'd also just double-check that the housing endcap is not moving in the
> >>> hanger, and that there's no gap when the housing runs into the brake lever
> >>> itself.
>
>  I am using the max straddle cable height allowed by the stock cable
>  that came with the CR720's. I will try increasing the spring tension.
>
> >>> Photo anywhere?
>
> >>> - J
>
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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

You're welcome, Bill [how are you by the way?].

And yes, I am Scott Cutshall [=Me].

And to the one poster who found it funny: no, it's not a screenplay
but I do wish it was, because I find it all very sad.

PS-> if it is too far Off-Topic for the Group, -again-, Jim can pull
the whole schebang off.

-Scott

On Apr 18, 8:09 pm, Bill Connell  wrote:
> It is Scott, he signed his name. It's a really sad story, and i can
> only imagine how hard it would be for his wife to not say anything
> about Scott's experience with his weight. People have to choose change
> for themselves, but when there are enablers and ignorance of the
> alternatives in life, a little window to a different world can make
> all the difference. It makes me sad to think of all the lost options
> in their lives when someone's weight gets so high.
>
> Thanks for sharing, Scott.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM, rperks  wrote:
> > FYI - I think Me is Scott, but maybe I am off
>
> > On Apr 18, 4:45 pm, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> >> On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
>
> >> > It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
> >> > large that they were literally disabled.
>
> >> I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living
> >> in a nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid
> >> obesity.  And probably not going to make it to 50.
>
> >> It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.
>
> >> This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and
> >> was quite literally feeding him to death.
>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread Jim M.

Nice bike! I've heard that a good orthotic can help with the
Morton's.

When I park my Riv at a coffee shop on a ride, very few people ever
comment. But very few people comment on anybody's bike. I think the
Riv community has a high % of folks interested in the aesthetics of
the bicycle, and the average rider is not.

jim m
wc ca

On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
>
> Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Bill Connell

It is Scott, he signed his name. It's a really sad story, and i can
only imagine how hard it would be for his wife to not say anything
about Scott's experience with his weight. People have to choose change
for themselves, but when there are enablers and ignorance of the
alternatives in life, a little window to a different world can make
all the difference. It makes me sad to think of all the lost options
in their lives when someone's weight gets so high.

Thanks for sharing, Scott.

Bill


On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 9:51 PM, rperks  wrote:
> FYI - I think Me is Scott, but maybe I am off
>
> On Apr 18, 4:45 pm, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>> On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
>>
>> > It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
>> > large that they were literally disabled.
>>
>> I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living
>> in a nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid
>> obesity.  And probably not going to make it to 50.
>>
>> It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.
>>
>> This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and
>> was quite literally feeding him to death.
>>
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[RBW] FS: Busch & Muller 4D Toplight Pemanent

2010-04-18 Thread M. Chandler

I have a like-new Busch & Muller 4D Toplight Permanent light for
sale.  Takes two AA batteries (not included), has four non-flashing
LEDs, a built-in reflector, and mounts to a Euro-style rack (eg,
Tubus).  Mounted (holes punched for 80mm mounting), but not ridden.
$28/shipped in the lower 48 (PayPal only).

Pictures:
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Re: [RBW] Insane Dent Removal on Atlantis

2010-04-18 Thread Bill Connell

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:26 PM, Shaun Meehan  wrote:
> Another dog-related bike damage story. I had the Atlantis in the work
> stand doing some work on it. When I was done I took it off of the
> stand, and leaned the bike against the stand with the saddle resting
> on the clamp. I had a couple of the dogs in the shop with me and when
> I went to put the tools away a Great Dane wrestling broke out (not
> uncommon). Sure enough, the bike and the work stand went down in a
> noisy heap. When I went to retrieve the bike, not only was there paint
> damage, there was a fairly significant dent on the top of the top
> tube. This is actually the second bike that I've had dented on account
> of a dog toppling it over. Crazy!
>
> I'm sure the dent was purely cosmetic but after I got over my initial
> anger and frustration, I got to wondering about how the dent might be
> removed, or if it were even possible. I had a channel lock and a clean
> rag sitting right there so I spontaneously stuck the rag into the jaws
> of the channel lock, adjusted the channel lock and positioned it below
> the top tube with the ends of the jaws on either side of the dent. I
> started gently and carefully (as much as possible) sort of
> "oil-canning" the tube. The bike was positioned under a fluorescent
> light fixture and there was a perfect line reflected along the top
> tube and it distorted when I squeezed the channel lock; so I could see
> what was happening with the tube. Kind of interesting!
>
> Anyway I patiently worked the dent in that manner, squeezing and
> releasing pressure while rotating the jaws and working them towards
> the dent. All the while watching the line that was reflected in the
> top tube to see how things were progressing. To my amazement, the dent
> was definitely improving. After working at it for quite awhile, the
> dent was almost completely gone! The paint is still bunged-up around
> where the dent was but if I were to touch it up, I bet someone who
> didn't know it was there would never even notice that the frame was
> dented.
>
> I can't say that I'd recommend this technique because it could easily
> end-up doing more harm than good. Especially if one got over zealous.
> I have a bad habit of trying things that could result in making things
> worse. And often times things do get worse! I mean really? Squeezing
> the tube with a channel lock? On a fairly expensive frame? This time
> it worked quite well though. I'm still somewhat in disbelief. Just
> thought I'd share it with y'all.
>
> Shaun Meehan


Wow, that seems kind of insane. I've torn down and fixed a lot of
fairly crazy things, but i don't know that this would even have
occurred to me. Nice job on getting the dent out!

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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread rperks

FYI - I think Me is Scott, but maybe I am off

On Apr 18, 4:45 pm, Tim McNamara  wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
>
> > It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
> > large that they were literally disabled.
>
> I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living  
> in a nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid  
> obesity.  And probably not going to make it to 50.
>
> It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.
>
> This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and  
> was quite literally feeding him to death.
>
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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

On Apr 18, 7:37 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> I think that "his" was supposed to be capitalized. :)

Actually, I meant to say "This thread seems to have strayed far away
from the focus of this
group. " I was posting from my phone which I'm still getting used to.

I'm at work. In an ER. I'm surrounded by these kind of heartbreaking
and frustrating situations.

I look forward to riding my Quickbeam home in a little while.

--mike

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Re: [RBW] Re: Insane Dent Removal on Atlantis

2010-04-18 Thread James Warren


Hopefully not on one of your two amazing Rivvies, Beth.

-Jim W.

-Original Message-
>From: Beth H 

>On Apr 18, 12:41 pm, Thomas Nezovich  wrote:
>> Aluminum or wooden blocks, greased, and used with a vise.  These are  
>> Al by Bicycle Research:  
>> http://www.bicycleresearchtools.com/framet.html#anchor351350
>
>And they work. I've seen them used and can't wait to give them a try
>on a dented frame myself.
>Beth
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread James Warren


I think that "his" was supposed to be capitalized. :)

(And by the way, I agree, although the topic is interesting.)

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[RBW] Re: Insane Dent Removal on Atlantis

2010-04-18 Thread Beth H



On Apr 18, 12:41 pm, Thomas Nezovich  wrote:
> Aluminum or wooden blocks, greased, and used with a vise.  These are  
> Al by Bicycle Research:  
> http://www.bicycleresearchtools.com/framet.html#anchor351350

And they work. I've seen them used and can't wait to give them a try
on a dented frame myself.
Beth

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Re: [RBW] Lugged! Proper fork bend! 650B! Fenders! Fattish Tires! Riv-ish!

2010-04-18 Thread Bill Connell

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 6:46 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/23259...@n05/4526924426/in/set-72157623747045659/
>
> Cross-posted from the Frame list. I don't see a reason for this sort of
> construction, except as a craftman's tour de force (as opposed to his tour
> de france), but man, I'd ride it in a Rivendell minute!
>
> IIRC, BG claimed 21 lb for the bike as pictured.


Gorgeous. No matter what the tubes were made of, the metalwork is just
wonderful.

I wonder how the BB shell was done, it seems like it would take a lot
of material for the stresses there.

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Re: [RBW] Lugged! Proper fork bend! 650B! Fenders! Fattish Tires! Riv-ish!

2010-04-18 Thread carnerda...@bellsouth.net


Are those tires prototypes or production versions?

PATRICK MOORE wrote:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23259...@n05/4526924426/in/set-72157623747045659/

Cross-posted from the Frame list. I don't see a reason for this sort 
of construction, except as a craftman's tour de force (as opposed to 
his tour de france), but man, I'd ride it in a Rivendell minute!


IIRC, BG claimed 21 lb for the bike as pictured.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread cyclotourist

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 6:44 PM, Mike  wrote:

> This thread seems to have strayed far away from the focus of his
> group.
>
> --
>

Yeah, I thought I was on the ibob list for a sec.

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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

This thread seems to have strayed far away from the focus of his
group.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:30 PM, happyriding  wrote:

> On Apr 18, 5:51 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> >
> > ...". And yet the carnal sins are less bad than the "spiritual" sins of
> > which we need look no further than to our great and good to see
> represented
> > -- hatred, cruelty, pride, greed. The carnal sins are just uglier on the
> > outside.
> >
>
> I'm not religious, but I think that was well said.  The spiritual sins
> have infected all levels of government and business in every country
> in the world--and it appears to be unstoppable.
>
> It wasn't gluttony or sloth or even avarice that so egregiously energized
Hitler and Stalin! As Aristotle wisely said, "Men don't become tyrants to
keep warm."

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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread happyriding

On Apr 18, 5:51 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> grotesqueness to this sort of affliction or obsession, in my serious opinion
> akin to insanity or demonic possession.
>

...or being a drug addict, where food is the drug.

> It reminds me of that old movie,
> "Seven" with Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt. One says this with all sympathy
> for the victims and with the thought that, "There but for the grace of God
>

Yep.  Some people are wired differently, and it's hard to comprehend
anyone with that difference.


> ...". And yet the carnal sins are less bad than the "spiritual" sins of
> which we need look no further than to our great and good to see represented
> -- hatred, cruelty, pride, greed. The carnal sins are just uglier on the
> outside.
>

I'm not religious, but I think that was well said.  The spiritual sins
have infected all levels of government and business in every country
in the world--and it appears to be unstoppable.


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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Will  wrote:

> Yup. We know so much more now about nutrition now than we did before,
> and I appreciate Grant's occasional nod in this direction in the
> Reader. Personally, I wish every American would read Dr. Joel
> Fuhrman's "Fasting and Eating for Health: A Medical Doctor's Program
> for Conquering Disease" (1995; http://tinyurl.com/y7keadu).  But I
> gotta say that one of the reasons to ride is to enjoy the chocolate
> cake. :-)
>
>
I think that this sort of grotesque obsession with eating goes far beyond
the habit of overindulging in the pleasures of the palate and gullet (last:
Aristotle, paraphrased: the pleasure of eating is [the feeling of solids]
going down the esophagus.") This isn't merely Falstaff and it's far, far far
FAR beyond any issue of nutrition. It's an issue of some deepseated psychic
imbalance.

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Ray Shine

I can  tell ya'll one…just today I was at my grandsons T-Ball game. He's 5.  
There was a kid on the opposing team who must of weighed 70+ pounds.  It was 
really sad.  His parents were also huge people, and they sad there slurping on 
sodas and eating chips of some kid.  At least the kid was getting some 
exercise.  That's about the only promising thing. I must admit, however, they 
seemed like a happy family, all quite jolly and friendly.

From: Tim McNamara 
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sun, April 18, 2010 4:45:34 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:

> It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
> large that they were literally disabled.

I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living in a 
nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid obesity.  And 
probably not going to make it to 50.

It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.

This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and was quite 
literally feeding him to death.

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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread happyriding

That is one of the funniest pieces of writing I've read in a long
time.  It's a screen play for a comedy right?

It's true?  Well, then I guess Me has a candidate for his first
patient.



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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Will

Yup. We know so much more now about nutrition now than we did before,
and I appreciate Grant's occasional nod in this direction in the
Reader. Personally, I wish every American would read Dr. Joel
Fuhrman's "Fasting and Eating for Health: A Medical Doctor's Program
for Conquering Disease" (1995; http://tinyurl.com/y7keadu).  But I
gotta say that one of the reasons to ride is to enjoy the chocolate
cake. :-)

On Apr 18, 7:51 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Tim McNamara  wrote:
>
> > On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
>
> >  It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
> >> large that they were literally disabled.
>
> > I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living in a
> > nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid obesity.  And
> > probably not going to make it to 50.
>
> > It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.
>
> > This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and was
> > quite literally feeding him to death.
>
> > Ghastly, really and truly ghastly -- there is a kind of sinister
>
> grotesqueness to this sort of affliction or obsession, in my serious opinion
> akin to insanity or demonic possession. It reminds me of that old movie,
> "Seven" with Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt. One says this with all sympathy
> for the victims and with the thought that, "There but for the grace of God
> ...". And yet the carnal sins are less bad than the "spiritual" sins of
> which we need look no further than to our great and good to see represented
> -- hatred, cruelty, pride, greed. The carnal sins are just uglier on the
> outside.
>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread Calm54

Thank you for sharing pictures of your Bomba.  A fine bike!

On Apr 18, 12:30 pm, Eduardo Rosas  wrote:
> Wish I would have seen you, I would have stopped by to talk for sure!
> I was so tired of seeing the same old spec/rek/avelos, The funny thing
> is that they all think their are so cool with the same bike, Mine
> stuck out for sure.  I didn't get the complete cold shoulder but only
> 3/4 people talked to me about the bike (1 from SF rando group, who was
> on a carbon as well).
>
> Hope you still had a fun time, I know I enjoyed myself.  I didn't
> finish in their time limit (whatever, I finished, which was my
> goal!).  It was my first century and I'm not looking for more any time
> soon.  I'd much rather run to Santa Cruz for the weekend than have to
> leave at a certain time, stop at their rest stops and finish when they
> tell me.
>
> Pic of my rivish surlyhttp://tinyurl.com/y2byxqm
>
> --E
>
> It's a rivish Surly.  I was actually
> On Apr 18, 11:56 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > on 4/17/10 10:49 PM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > > Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands 
> > > from the
> > > bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> > > steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris 
> > > King
> > > headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone fixed 
> > > that
> > > problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> > The fix I'm familiar with is actually the opposite - either slightly
> > tightening the headset or using super heavy grease (like boat trailer
> > bearing grease) in a loose-ball headset to slow down the response.
>
> > Bear in mind that there are a _lot_ of variables in the shimmy equation -
> > fore/aft weight distribution, friction into the tires, tire pressure, load
> > positioning, weight, etc - I would see if you can replicate it again before
> > trying anything.
>
> > > The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I 
> > > cannot
> > > associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud fenders,
> > > perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods, there was 
> > > a
> > > regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when stopped by
> > > twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as I can
> > > tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks as 
> > > well
> > > and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse towards the 
> > > end
> > > of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> > Creaks are crazy-making issues.
>
> > Basically, remove the bolts, grease the surfaces, reinstall.
>
> > Repeat until isolated.
>
> > However, I will say that you might not want things "as tight as (you) can
> > tighten them by hand".  If you have a good bicycle mechanic nearby, you
> > might pay for a half hour of their time (burrito and beer?) and have them
> > show you how tight a properly torqued bolt should be.
>
> > With greased threads (and threads are _always_ greased), it doesn't take
> > everything you've got. It is very helpful to develop the "feel", and that
> > comes from practice.  (And I will say that if you don't get the 'feel'
> > thing, be honest and get a torque wrench with inch-pound increments.)
>
> > Squeaks are notoriously hard to locate while riding. Having someone
> > alongside listening can help.
>
> > Now, specific to your complaint:
>
> > If you were just sitting and coasting and creaking:
>
> > Saddle itself (silicone spray at the metal/leather interfaces)
> > Saddle to rail connection (bolt threads, thin grease on rails)
> > Hubs, freehub/freewheel, wheels not properly seated in dropouts
>
> > Since you can replicate it by torquing the bars, I'd pull and regrease the
> > stem, then the bars.  It could also be a cable housing tip.
>
> > If it's happening with a pedal stroke, then I'd suspect in order - pedals,
> > pedal/crank threads, crank/spindle interface, bottom bracket threads.
>
> > Hope that is of some help,
>
> > - Jim
>
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> > suits.  Because if you've put yourself in a position where someone has to
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[RBW] Re: Cantilever Brake issue on Hillborne

2010-04-18 Thread EricP

Follow up -  Had my Hillborne out for a ride this morning.  Noticed
that there is a movement in the fork when braking at slow speeds.
Didn't seem to affect handling or anything.  More like the brake is
grab/release quickly and the bent fork trying to straighten out.

Now, I don't consider this to be a bad thing.  In fact, probably would
not have noticed if this had not come up.  Don't plan to change
anything because of it.  But the original poster is not imagining
things.  Does seem like the mechanical advantage issue where there is
a lot when first applied and then modulation is less.

For what it's worth, the bike has a headset hanger and the stock pads
were swapped out to Yokozuna models from Rivendell.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Apr 17, 12:38�pm, rperks  wrote:
> Second what he said, and go through the standards: Clean the rims with
> alchohol, some even sand them lightly. �If that does not do it try
> lightly sanding or filing the pads to clean them as well. �Next stop
> is Pauls or V-Brakes. �I went through this with my Cross-check, but
> the judder was at all speeds, as set of mini-v brakes brought it
> almost to a omplete stop, but I was so tired of fiddling with it I
> sold the bike and bought the Rawland with discs. �The stud slop is
> only one weak link in the system, and I believe it helps to magnify
> every other weak spot in the system.
>
> The other possibility is that with the wide profile and High cable
> they may be too powerful. �Sounds hard to swallow, but I can make the
> fork hop on the rawland with discs. �Watch the front wheel closely
> when you are doing this and see if it is spinning in a stop start kind
> of a thing or locked up and hopping along like a pogo stick.
>
> Rob
>
> On Apr 17, 10:22�am, CycloFiend  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > on 4/17/10 9:51 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> > > I find it strange that some SH owners have this issue while others
> > > have not had an issue. My pads were installed flush, but they are
> > > koolstop MTB pads with the the designed to provide tow-in
> > > automatically. I get no squeal just the low-speed shudder. �I will
> > > look into pad angle.
>
> > Pad angle will definitely cause that issue. I've had that happen with and
> > without accompanying squawking. The Kool Stops also tend to bite a newer rim
> > a lot better than most pads. New pads + New rims = shudder, IME.
>
> > I've never been able to run the KS pads flush. Always put a touch o' toe-in
> > on them.
>
> > I'd also just double-check that the housing endcap is not moving in the
> > hanger, and that there's no gap when the housing runs into the brake lever
> > itself.
>
> > > I am using the max straddle cable height allowed by the stock cable
> > > that came with the CR720's. I will try increasing the spring tension.
>
> > Photo anywhere?
>
> > - J
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Tim McNamara  wrote:

>
> On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:
>
>  It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
>> large that they were literally disabled.
>>
>
> I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living in a
> nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid obesity.  And
> probably not going to make it to 50.
>
> It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.
>
> This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and was
> quite literally feeding him to death.
>
> Ghastly, really and truly ghastly -- there is a kind of sinister
grotesqueness to this sort of affliction or obsession, in my serious opinion
akin to insanity or demonic possession. It reminds me of that old movie,
"Seven" with Morgan Freeman and Brad Pitt. One says this with all sympathy
for the victims and with the thought that, "There but for the grace of God
...". And yet the carnal sins are less bad than the "spiritual" sins of
which we need look no further than to our great and good to see represented
-- hatred, cruelty, pride, greed. The carnal sins are just uglier on the
outside.

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[RBW] Lugged! Proper fork bend! 650B! Fenders! Fattish Tires! Riv-ish!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/23259...@n05/4526924426/in/set-72157623747045659/

Cross-posted from the Frame list. I don't see a reason for this sort of
construction, except as a craftman's tour de force (as opposed to his tour
de france), but man, I'd ride it in a Rivendell minute!

IIRC, BG claimed 21 lb for the bike as pictured.

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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Tim McNamara



On Apr 18, 2010, at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:


It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
large that they were literally disabled.


I've known a number of them professionally, in their 30s and living  
in a nursing home due to the health complications of ultra-morbid  
obesity.  And probably not going to make it to 50.


It makes Scott Cutshall's story all the more impressive to me.

This person's mother was clearly out of touch with the situation and  
was quite literally feeding him to death.


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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Dave Craig

Sad story indeed. Many health care practioners become bitter and
frustrated due to facing situations like this on a daily basis. It can
be hard to have compassion for people who choose to eat themselves
into morbid obesity, a poor quality of life and an early death. I am
sorry that this young man may never know the joy many of us in this
group share in riding our bikes.

I feel blessed that, at age 50, I am fit and in good health and am
surrounded by people in my life who value healthy living and an active
lifestyle. My love for riding bikes has contributed in no small part
to keeping my weight at a healthy level even though I occassionally
splurge on calories that I probably should avoid.


Dave

On Apr 18, 12:07 pm, Me  wrote:
> **If this is too far astray for this group... Jim, go ahead and pull
> it, but I thought -somehow- it needed posting: perhaps for no other
> reason than to purge it from my brain**
>
> My wife is an RN.  She works in PACU [basically to the common person,
> that's the recovery room after one has surgery].
>
> Last night she was on-call.  Sure enough, at 11:15pm her pager goes
> off and she needs to go in.  My daughter and me kiss her and off she
> goes.
>
> She arrives back home at 3:30am after recovering a 21yr old male who
> had to have his gull bladder removed.  He had come through the ER,
> straight into emergency surgery, then to my wife.
>
> He weighs 431 pounds.
>
> His history is approximating about 16,000 calories per day, mostly
> fast food, the rest 'homemade' food 'by mom' in the form of mac-n-
> cheese, fried fish, lots of potatoes in the mashed variety, meatloaf,
> fried chicken, biscuits, loves his vegetables [according to mom] with
> butter & Velveeta cheese... etc.
> Favorite Activity: video games.
>
> Yesterday he had eaten 44 'Buffalo' chicken wings and 3 orders of
> 'chili' fries, a couple fried 'breaded' salmon steaks and cauliflower
> with cheese when he began having extreme middle-back pain.  After his
> mom gave him 'a large bowl of ice cream & 2 TBSP of Pepto Bismol to
> help ease the pain' and the pain didn't ease up, he was brought to the
> ER where it was discovered his gull bladder was enlarged, discharging
> bile, and about to bleed-out.
>
> He did okay in surgery.  The surgeon had difficulty getting to his
> gull bladder as his liver was so enlarged due to his size.
>
> My wife had difficulty with him in recovery do to his size... his
> wound site kept bleeding because of his size, the pliability of his
> abdomen due to fat, and he was reacting poorly to meds [stopped
> breathing many times, and she had to 'bag' him 5 different times].  He
> also vomited up his entire day's intake of food because of not
> reacting well to the various agents given to him during his procedure.
>
> After my wife stabilized him, she transported him to his room.  The
> patient was lucid by this point, in discomfort, curious what had
> happened to him, and asking for food, "something spicy".  My wife
> explained what had happened, and that spicy food was -more than
> likely- not ever going to be in his day to day menu again -- due to
> not having a gull bladder in his body any longer.
>
> When she got him to his room, his mom & dad were there waiting.
>
> His parents asked the usual questions.  My wife answered them.
>
> As my wife was leaving the room with the boy's parents, his mom began
> opening and emptying out a large grocery bag with the statement, "just
> a little something for him, for the morning, when he wakes up".
>
> She pulled out 2 large bags of Doritos, a store-bought deli container
> of 'Buffalo' chicken wings [24-count], a large squeeze bottle of
> Hidden Valley ranch dressing, a 2-litter bottle of Coke and a 12"
> double layer chocolate cake.
>
> My wife explained that this wasn't a good thing.  That this food was
> not going to do him any good favors, and especially after the gull
> bladder removal.
>
> The mom looked at my wife and said, "You obviously don't have
> children, boys just like to eat!"
>
> This kind of thing is heartbreaking to me.
>
> -Scott
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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Shaun Meehan

Oops! Somehow I sent that before I was done. Sorry about that.

What I was going to say is that all of these people had "enablers".
Not only were they unable to control their food intake; they had
people who continued to bring them huge amounts of unhealthy food even
though it was obvious that it was literally killing them.

Shaun Meehan

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Shaun Meehan  wrote:
> It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
> large that they were literally disabled.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Shaun Meehan

It's interesting. I've seen a couple of shows about people who got so
large that they were literally disabled.

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[RBW] Re: The Insanity of our Times

2010-04-18 Thread Ian Dickson

Strangely enough, now I want some chicken wings.

On Apr 18, 11:07 am, Me  wrote:
> **If this is too far astray for this group... Jim, go ahead and pull
> it, but I thought -somehow- it needed posting: perhaps for no other
> reason than to purge it from my brain**
>
> My wife is an RN.  She works in PACU [basically to the common person,
> that's the recovery room after one has surgery].
>
> Last night she was on-call.  Sure enough, at 11:15pm her pager goes
> off and she needs to go in.  My daughter and me kiss her and off she
> goes.
>
> She arrives back home at 3:30am after recovering a 21yr old male who
> had to have his gull bladder removed.  He had come through the ER,
> straight into emergency surgery, then to my wife.
>
> He weighs 431 pounds.
>
> His history is approximating about 16,000 calories per day, mostly
> fast food, the rest 'homemade' food 'by mom' in the form of mac-n-
> cheese, fried fish, lots of potatoes in the mashed variety, meatloaf,
> fried chicken, biscuits, loves his vegetables [according to mom] with
> butter & Velveeta cheese... etc.
> Favorite Activity: video games.
>
> Yesterday he had eaten 44 'Buffalo' chicken wings and 3 orders of
> 'chili' fries, a couple fried 'breaded' salmon steaks and cauliflower
> with cheese when he began having extreme middle-back pain.  After his
> mom gave him 'a large bowl of ice cream & 2 TBSP of Pepto Bismol to
> help ease the pain' and the pain didn't ease up, he was brought to the
> ER where it was discovered his gull bladder was enlarged, discharging
> bile, and about to bleed-out.
>
> He did okay in surgery.  The surgeon had difficulty getting to his
> gull bladder as his liver was so enlarged due to his size.
>
> My wife had difficulty with him in recovery do to his size... his
> wound site kept bleeding because of his size, the pliability of his
> abdomen due to fat, and he was reacting poorly to meds [stopped
> breathing many times, and she had to 'bag' him 5 different times].  He
> also vomited up his entire day's intake of food because of not
> reacting well to the various agents given to him during his procedure.
>
> After my wife stabilized him, she transported him to his room.  The
> patient was lucid by this point, in discomfort, curious what had
> happened to him, and asking for food, "something spicy".  My wife
> explained what had happened, and that spicy food was -more than
> likely- not ever going to be in his day to day menu again -- due to
> not having a gull bladder in his body any longer.
>
> When she got him to his room, his mom & dad were there waiting.
>
> His parents asked the usual questions.  My wife answered them.
>
> As my wife was leaving the room with the boy's parents, his mom began
> opening and emptying out a large grocery bag with the statement, "just
> a little something for him, for the morning, when he wakes up".
>
> She pulled out 2 large bags of Doritos, a store-bought deli container
> of 'Buffalo' chicken wings [24-count], a large squeeze bottle of
> Hidden Valley ranch dressing, a 2-litter bottle of Coke and a 12"
> double layer chocolate cake.
>
> My wife explained that this wasn't a good thing.  That this food was
> not going to do him any good favors, and especially after the gull
> bladder removal.
>
> The mom looked at my wife and said, "You obviously don't have
> children, boys just like to eat!"
>
> This kind of thing is heartbreaking to me.
>
> -Scott
>
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Re: [RBW] The Insanity of our Times

This makes the thread on the boblist about the validity of the NHTSA's
bicycling fatality statistics almost academic. Wow. Will satire ever, *ever*
catch up with reality? Not in my lifetime or yours, that's for sure!

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Me  wrote:

> **If this is too far astray for this group... Jim, go ahead and pull
> it, but I thought -somehow- it needed posting: perhaps for no other
> reason than to purge it from my brain**
>
> My wife is an RN.  She works in PACU [basically to the common person,
> that's the recovery room after one has surgery].
>
> Last night she was on-call.  Sure enough, at 11:15pm her pager goes
> off and she needs to go in.  My daughter and me kiss her and off she
> goes.
>
> She arrives back home at 3:30am after recovering a 21yr old male who
> had to have his gull bladder removed.  He had come through the ER,
> straight into emergency surgery, then to my wife.
>
> He weighs 431 pounds.
>
> His history is approximating about 16,000 calories per day, mostly
> fast food, the rest 'homemade' food 'by mom' in the form of mac-n-
> cheese, fried fish, lots of potatoes in the mashed variety, meatloaf,
> fried chicken, biscuits, loves his vegetables [according to mom] with
> butter & Velveeta cheese... etc.
> Favorite Activity: video games.
>
> Yesterday he had eaten 44 'Buffalo' chicken wings and 3 orders of
> 'chili' fries, a couple fried 'breaded' salmon steaks and cauliflower
> with cheese when he began having extreme middle-back pain.  After his
> mom gave him 'a large bowl of ice cream & 2 TBSP of Pepto Bismol to
> help ease the pain' and the pain didn't ease up, he was brought to the
> ER where it was discovered his gull bladder was enlarged, discharging
> bile, and about to bleed-out.
>
> He did okay in surgery.  The surgeon had difficulty getting to his
> gull bladder as his liver was so enlarged due to his size.
>
> My wife had difficulty with him in recovery do to his size... his
> wound site kept bleeding because of his size, the pliability of his
> abdomen due to fat, and he was reacting poorly to meds [stopped
> breathing many times, and she had to 'bag' him 5 different times].  He
> also vomited up his entire day's intake of food because of not
> reacting well to the various agents given to him during his procedure.
>
> After my wife stabilized him, she transported him to his room.  The
> patient was lucid by this point, in discomfort, curious what had
> happened to him, and asking for food, "something spicy".  My wife
> explained what had happened, and that spicy food was -more than
> likely- not ever going to be in his day to day menu again -- due to
> not having a gull bladder in his body any longer.
>
> When she got him to his room, his mom & dad were there waiting.
>
> His parents asked the usual questions.  My wife answered them.
>
> As my wife was leaving the room with the boy's parents, his mom began
> opening and emptying out a large grocery bag with the statement, "just
> a little something for him, for the morning, when he wakes up".
>
> She pulled out 2 large bags of Doritos, a store-bought deli container
> of 'Buffalo' chicken wings [24-count], a large squeeze bottle of
> Hidden Valley ranch dressing, a 2-litter bottle of Coke and a 12"
> double layer chocolate cake.
>
> My wife explained that this wasn't a good thing.  That this food was
> not going to do him any good favors, and especially after the gull
> bladder removal.
>
> The mom looked at my wife and said, "You obviously don't have
> children, boys just like to eat!"
>
> This kind of thing is heartbreaking to me.
>
> -Scott
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Eduardo Rosas  wrote:

> Wish I would have seen you, I would have stopped by to talk for sure!
> I was so tired of seeing the same old spec/rek/avelos, The funny thing
> is that they all think their are so cool with the same bike, Mine
> stuck out for sure.  I didn't get the complete cold shoulder but only
> 3/4 people talked to me about the bike (1 from SF rando group, who was
> on a carbon as well).
>
> That is silly. The reason "they" didn't make a remark is probably the same
reason we don't usually stop every cyclist on the street to exclaim about
his bike -- we're not particularly interested.

I for one can't read the minds of the people who ride and wear plastic,
which I don't particularly care for, btw, and I expect Eduardo can't either.

Who gives shit about what comments who makes about what bike?

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 12:56 PM, CycloFiend wrote:

> Bear in mind that there are a _lot_ of variables in the shimmy equation -
> fore/aft weight distribution, friction into the tires, tire pressure, load
> positioning, weight, etc - I would see if you can replicate it again before
> trying anything.
>
>
> My Riv commuter never shimmied until I added a modest sized bar bag, when
it began doing so slightly at 15 mph or so. Nothing else changed. For wholly
unrelated reasons I swapped the 6X5X10" bag for a small croissant type and
it shimmies no more.

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread Eduardo Rosas

Wish I would have seen you, I would have stopped by to talk for sure!
I was so tired of seeing the same old spec/rek/avelos, The funny thing
is that they all think their are so cool with the same bike, Mine
stuck out for sure.  I didn't get the complete cold shoulder but only
3/4 people talked to me about the bike (1 from SF rando group, who was
on a carbon as well).

Hope you still had a fun time, I know I enjoyed myself.  I didn't
finish in their time limit (whatever, I finished, which was my
goal!).  It was my first century and I'm not looking for more any time
soon.  I'd much rather run to Santa Cruz for the weekend than have to
leave at a certain time, stop at their rest stops and finish when they
tell me.

Pic of my rivish surly
http://tinyurl.com/y2byxqm

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It's a rivish Surly.  I was actually
On Apr 18, 11:56 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 4/17/10 10:49 PM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from 
> > the
> > bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> > steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris 
> > King
> > headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone fixed 
> > that
> > problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> The fix I'm familiar with is actually the opposite - either slightly
> tightening the headset or using super heavy grease (like boat trailer
> bearing grease) in a loose-ball headset to slow down the response.
>
> Bear in mind that there are a _lot_ of variables in the shimmy equation -
> fore/aft weight distribution, friction into the tires, tire pressure, load
> positioning, weight, etc - I would see if you can replicate it again before
> trying anything.
>
> > The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I 
> > cannot
> > associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud fenders,
> > perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods, there was a
> > regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when stopped by
> > twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as I can
> > tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks as 
> > well
> > and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse towards the 
> > end
> > of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> Creaks are crazy-making issues.
>
> Basically, remove the bolts, grease the surfaces, reinstall.
>
> Repeat until isolated.
>
> However, I will say that you might not want things "as tight as (you) can
> tighten them by hand".  If you have a good bicycle mechanic nearby, you
> might pay for a half hour of their time (burrito and beer?) and have them
> show you how tight a properly torqued bolt should be.
>
> With greased threads (and threads are _always_ greased), it doesn't take
> everything you've got. It is very helpful to develop the "feel", and that
> comes from practice.  (And I will say that if you don't get the 'feel'
> thing, be honest and get a torque wrench with inch-pound increments.)
>
> Squeaks are notoriously hard to locate while riding. Having someone
> alongside listening can help.
>
> Now, specific to your complaint:
>
> If you were just sitting and coasting and creaking:
>
> Saddle itself (silicone spray at the metal/leather interfaces)
> Saddle to rail connection (bolt threads, thin grease on rails)
> Hubs, freehub/freewheel, wheels not properly seated in dropouts
>
> Since you can replicate it by torquing the bars, I'd pull and regrease the
> stem, then the bars.  It could also be a cable housing tip.
>
> If it's happening with a pedal stroke, then I'd suspect in order - pedals,
> pedal/crank threads, crank/spindle interface, bottom bracket threads.
>
> Hope that is of some help,
>
> - Jim
>
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Re: [RBW] Insane Dent Removal on Atlantis

2010-04-18 Thread Thomas Nezovich

Aluminum or wooden blocks, greased, and used with a vise. These are
Al by Bicycle Research: http://www.bicycleresearchtools.com/framet.html#anchor351350

On Apr 18, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Shaun Meehan wrote:

Another dog-related bike damage story. I had the Atlantis in the work
stand doing some work on it. When I was done I took it off of the
stand, and leaned the bike against the stand with the saddle resting
on the clamp. I had a couple of the dogs in the shop with me and when
I went to put the tools away a Great Dane wrestling broke out (not
uncommon). Sure enough, the bike and the work stand went down in a
noisy heap. When I went to retrieve the bike, not only was there paint
damage, there was a fairly significant dent on the top of the top
tube. This is actually the second bike that I've had dented on account
of a dog toppling it over. Crazy!

I'm sure the dent was purely cosmetic but after I got over my initial
anger and frustration, I got to wondering about how the dent might be
removed, or if it were even possible. I had a channel lock and a clean
rag sitting right there so I spontaneously stuck the rag into the jaws
of the channel lock, adjusted the channel lock and positioned it below
the top tube with the ends of the jaws on either side of the dent. I
started gently and carefully (as much as possible) sort of
"oil-canning" the tube. The bike was positioned under a fluorescent
light fixture and there was a perfect line reflected along the top
tube and it distorted when I squeezed the channel lock; so I could see
what was happening with the tube. Kind of interesting!

Anyway I patiently worked the dent in that manner, squeezing and
releasing pressure while rotating the jaws and working them towards
the dent. All the while watching the line that was reflected in the
top tube to see how things were progressing. To my amazement, the dent
was definitely improving. After working at it for quite awhile, the
dent was almost completely gone! The paint is still bunged-up around
where the dent was but if I were to touch it up, I bet someone who
didn't know it was there would never even notice that the frame was
dented.

I can't say that I'd recommend this technique because it could easily
end-up doing more harm than good. Especially if one got over zealous.
I have a bad habit of trying things that could result in making things
worse. And often times things do get worse! I mean really? Squeezing
the tube with a channel lock? On a fairly expensive frame? This time
it worked quite well though. I'm still somewhat in disbelief. Just
thought I'd share it with y'all.

Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread Ian Dickson

Metal fenders can creak.  If you have direct fender/frame contact
(probably between the chainstays), try using a strip of handlebar tape
to separate the contact points.  I had a creak that was driving me
crazy, and this took care of it.

On Apr 17, 9:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> much pressure on the foot.
>
> Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> feedback to solve them:
>
> - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> as always!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> René
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Re: [RBW] Insane Dent Removal on Atlantis

"beast-sage"?

The other way to de-dent a tube involves a workstand clamp, industrial
plastic wrap and a _lot_ of grease. Then the procedure is essentially the
same, apply pressure, rotate, apply pressure.  Increase pressure (i.e.
tighten clamp "snap in" point) and repeat.

Again, patience and carefull addition of pressure and direction.

- Jim

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

on 4/18/10 6:19 AM, SJB at sjbrau...@gmail.com wrote:

> Can someone explain why the double top tube is necessary?
> I just don't get it. Rough stuff bikes have been around for a long
> time and do quite well with a single top tube.
> Is there a purpose or is Riv just making their own little style
> statement?

Grant spoke a good deal about the twin-tube design on list and in the
Rivendell Reader #41, which is available here:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/rivendell-readers/24-072

(scroll down to the issue links near the bottom, Bombadil article is on page
6)

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"bombadil top tube" will give you a sense of earlier discussions.

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[RBW] The Insanity of our Times

**If this is too far astray for this group... Jim, go ahead and pull
it, but I thought -somehow- it needed posting: perhaps for no other
reason than to purge it from my brain**

My wife is an RN.  She works in PACU [basically to the common person,
that's the recovery room after one has surgery].

Last night she was on-call.  Sure enough, at 11:15pm her pager goes
off and she needs to go in.  My daughter and me kiss her and off she
goes.

She arrives back home at 3:30am after recovering a 21yr old male who
had to have his gull bladder removed.  He had come through the ER,
straight into emergency surgery, then to my wife.

He weighs 431 pounds.

His history is approximating about 16,000 calories per day, mostly
fast food, the rest 'homemade' food 'by mom' in the form of mac-n-
cheese, fried fish, lots of potatoes in the mashed variety, meatloaf,
fried chicken, biscuits, loves his vegetables [according to mom] with
butter & Velveeta cheese... etc.
Favorite Activity: video games.

Yesterday he had eaten 44 'Buffalo' chicken wings and 3 orders of
'chili' fries, a couple fried 'breaded' salmon steaks and cauliflower
with cheese when he began having extreme middle-back pain.  After his
mom gave him 'a large bowl of ice cream & 2 TBSP of Pepto Bismol to
help ease the pain' and the pain didn't ease up, he was brought to the
ER where it was discovered his gull bladder was enlarged, discharging
bile, and about to bleed-out.

He did okay in surgery.  The surgeon had difficulty getting to his
gull bladder as his liver was so enlarged due to his size.

My wife had difficulty with him in recovery do to his size... his
wound site kept bleeding because of his size, the pliability of his
abdomen due to fat, and he was reacting poorly to meds [stopped
breathing many times, and she had to 'bag' him 5 different times].  He
also vomited up his entire day's intake of food because of not
reacting well to the various agents given to him during his procedure.

After my wife stabilized him, she transported him to his room.  The
patient was lucid by this point, in discomfort, curious what had
happened to him, and asking for food, "something spicy".  My wife
explained what had happened, and that spicy food was -more than
likely- not ever going to be in his day to day menu again -- due to
not having a gull bladder in his body any longer.

When she got him to his room, his mom & dad were there waiting.

His parents asked the usual questions.  My wife answered them.

As my wife was leaving the room with the boy's parents, his mom began
opening and emptying out a large grocery bag with the statement, "just
a little something for him, for the morning, when he wakes up".

She pulled out 2 large bags of Doritos, a store-bought deli container
of 'Buffalo' chicken wings [24-count], a large squeeze bottle of
Hidden Valley ranch dressing, a 2-litter bottle of Coke and a 12"
double layer chocolate cake.

My wife explained that this wasn't a good thing.  That this food was
not going to do him any good favors, and especially after the gull
bladder removal.

The mom looked at my wife and said, "You obviously don't have
children, boys just like to eat!"

This kind of thing is heartbreaking to me.

-Scott

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Re: [RBW] Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

on 4/17/10 10:49 PM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote:
> Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from the
> bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris King
> headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone fixed that
> problem by loosening their headset a bit.

The fix I'm familiar with is actually the opposite - either slightly
tightening the headset or using super heavy grease (like boat trailer
bearing grease) in a loose-ball headset to slow down the response.

Bear in mind that there are a _lot_ of variables in the shimmy equation -
fore/aft weight distribution, friction into the tires, tire pressure, load
positioning, weight, etc - I would see if you can replicate it again before
trying anything. 

> The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I cannot
> associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud fenders,
> perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods, there was a
> regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when stopped by
> twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as I can
> tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks as well
> and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse towards the end
> of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.

Creaks are crazy-making issues.

Basically, remove the bolts, grease the surfaces, reinstall.

Repeat until isolated.

However, I will say that you might not want things "as tight as (you) can
tighten them by hand".  If you have a good bicycle mechanic nearby, you
might pay for a half hour of their time (burrito and beer?) and have them
show you how tight a properly torqued bolt should be.

With greased threads (and threads are _always_ greased), it doesn't take
everything you've got. It is very helpful to develop the "feel", and that
comes from practice.  (And I will say that if you don't get the 'feel'
thing, be honest and get a torque wrench with inch-pound increments.)

Squeaks are notoriously hard to locate while riding. Having someone
alongside listening can help.

Now, specific to your complaint:

If you were just sitting and coasting and creaking:

Saddle itself (silicone spray at the metal/leather interfaces)
Saddle to rail connection (bolt threads, thin grease on rails)
Hubs, freehub/freewheel, wheels not properly seated in dropouts

Since you can replicate it by torquing the bars, I'd pull and regrease the
stem, then the bars.  It could also be a cable housing tip.

If it's happening with a pedal stroke, then I'd suspect in order - pedals,
pedal/crank threads, crank/spindle interface, bottom bracket threads.

Hope that is of some help,

- Jim

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[RBW] Re: The new panniers look beautiful.

2010-04-18 Thread Ron MH

Great bags, Grant, et al.
I'd make one change only; lower the side panel reflective strips.
They might be more effective that way.

Ron

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

Pretty bike.

Couple thoughts and observations:

1.  Re: Creaking: More than likely your Brooks.  If not, if it's
creaking under pedal [i.e. pedaling out of saddle or in saddle up
hills, lots of pushing on pedals... ] BB or BB cups.
If you built the bike up yourself, did you use lots of grease while
doing so?  If so, good... if not, rebuild time.  In either case, go
around the bike and 're-snug' everything you can find.

2.  Why worry or care about folks noticing your bike... it's your
bike.  Enjoy it.

3.  Go out and get it dirty, a bike deserves some dirt and crud.  It
keeps them happy.

-Scott

On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> much pressure on the foot.
>
> Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> feedback to solve them:
>
> - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> as always!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> René
>
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[RBW] Re: RB-1 Crown race diameter

2010-04-18 Thread Justin August

Where do you live?
I'll paypal you money for shipping for them and either use or donate
them.

Sorry, people wasting bike parts just is my pet peeve.

-Justin

On Apr 18, 1:48 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> Thanks for the info... but Sheldon's info is misleading. The
> Bridgestone catalog says it's Italian type headset which, according to
> the headset list, the crown race dia. is either  26.5 or 27.0.   I
> have a Bstone T700 that I thought was 26.4 and I had to do some real
> grinding work to get the crown race on there ( really was a 27.0).
>
> If you've replaced yours and used a 26.4 then that is the most
> reliable data I've seen.
>
> and Justin, I'd like to drop them and other things off somewhere they
> could be reused but I've searched and there isn't anywhere near where
> I work or live that  does that.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Apr 18, 10:32 am, Phil Bickford  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi Michael -
>
> > My RB-T has the same headtube size/configuration as the RB-1 -
> > 26.4 fork crown race inner diameter.  But don't take my word on it:
>
> >http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-headsets.html
>
> > OR
>
> >http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1991/pages/bridgestone-1991-39.htm
>
> > Phil B
>
> > > On Apr 17, 10:03 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > > Is the RB-1 crown race JIS 27.0
> > > > or ISO 26.4 mm in diameter?
>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread rcnute

First-class wrap/shellac job!  I've not gotten up the courage to try
it.

Ryan

On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> much pressure on the foot.
>
> Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> feedback to solve them:
>
> - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> as always!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> René
>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread doug peterson

Rene:

+1 on the grease comments but especially check the Brooks.  I've found
that when new they tend to creak, sound a bit like a saddle on a
horse.  Seems to go away after a while (and enough Proofhide).  Don't
forget the chainring bolts and crank spindle if something easier
doesn't solve the problem.

The Bomba shimmies?  There goes my theory on double top tubes!  My
Atlantis can shimmy if improperly loaded but it takes a camping load
to do so.  Maybe bikes just.shimmy sometimes?

After looking at the photos, I see what scared off the carbon crowd -
nice bags!  and 2 of them!  The carbonic crew loves to stuff inflaters
& tubes in their jersey pockets.  If they even have a seat bag, it's a
little tiny black plastic thing that can barely hold an energy bar.
And never even a bar tube on the h'bars.

dougP

On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> much pressure on the foot.
>
> Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> feedback to solve them:
>
> - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> as always!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> René
>
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[RBW] Re: RB-1 Crown race diameter

2010-04-18 Thread Michael_S

Thanks for the info... but Sheldon's info is misleading. The
Bridgestone catalog says it's Italian type headset which, according to
the headset list, the crown race dia. is either  26.5 or 27.0.   I
have a Bstone T700 that I thought was 26.4 and I had to do some real
grinding work to get the crown race on there ( really was a 27.0).

If you've replaced yours and used a 26.4 then that is the most
reliable data I've seen.

and Justin, I'd like to drop them and other things off somewhere they
could be reused but I've searched and there isn't anywhere near where
I work or live that  does that.

~Mike~

On Apr 18, 10:32 am, Phil Bickford  wrote:
> Hi Michael -
>
> My RB-T has the same headtube size/configuration as the RB-1 -
> 26.4 fork crown race inner diameter.  But don't take my word on it:
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-headsets.html
>
> OR
>
> http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1991/pages/bridgestone-1991-39.htm
>
> Phil B
>
> > On Apr 17, 10:03 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > Is the RB-1 crown race JIS 27.0
> > > or ISO 26.4 mm in diameter?
>
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread RoadieRyan

Gorgeous Bomba and cool ride, I would definitely given you a shout
out ;-).  I notice on my steel canti bike that the brooks creaks and
the wire loop on the canti's sometimes rubs/creaks on the fenders -
just a thought.

On Apr 18, 9:28 am, Peter Andrews  wrote:
> I'm with Esteban here, and I'd venture to say that, on a new bike,
> with a new brooks, it is most likely your saddle.  Grease the rails,
> and be sure to use whatever it is you use on top of the saddle
> (proofide, Obenauf's) on the underside as well.  Get it in there
> between the rear plate and the leather (where the rivets are).  This
> spot can be the source of a creak that resonates through the whole
> bike.  You might loosen the tension a bit and then re-tighten after
> you've gotten some goo in there.
>
> As for the front end shimmy:  I used to call them speed wobbles when I
> was a kid on a skateboard.  It's more to do with physics than
> anything.  I get the same shimmy on my Bomba at medium speeds and no-
> hands.  The shimmy has less (or nothing) to do with your super-nice
> headset, and more to do with the speed you're going, and the geometry
> of the Bomba's front end, specifically the rake (and trail) of the
> fork.  This bike is designed as an off-road bike capable of heavy,
> loaded touring.  I commute on my Bomba with a loaded rack up front,
> and it feels quite solid.  When I take it for a jaunt sans front load,
> the steering feels positively twitchy (and responsive, as if ready to
> maneuver across a dry creek-bed strewn with rocks the size of soccer
> balls).  I'd say, basically, don't sweat the shimmy.  It has more to
> do with the function of your bike, not a dysfunction.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
> On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> > Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> > I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> > outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> > twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> > The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> > on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> > the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> > I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> > much pressure on the foot.
>
> > Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> > aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> > "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> > like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> > at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> > I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> > I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> > wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> > feedback to solve them:
>
> > - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> > the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> > steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> > King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> > fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> > - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> > cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> > fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> > there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> > stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> > I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> > as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> > towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> > Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> > as always!
>
> > Thanks again!
>
> > René
>
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[RBW] Re: RB-1 Crown race diameter

2010-04-18 Thread Phil Bickford

Hi Michael -

My RB-T has the same headtube size/configuration as the RB-1 -
26.4 fork crown race inner diameter.  But don't take my word on it:

http://sheldonbrown.com/cribsheet-headsets.html

OR

http://sheldonbrown.com/bridgestone/1991/pages/bridgestone-1991-39.htm

Phil B




> On Apr 17, 10:03 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > Is the RB-1 crown race JIS 27.0
> > or ISO 26.4 mm in diameter?

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[RBW] Re: The new panniers look beautiful.

2010-04-18 Thread Garth

Do the bags adjust for heel clearance ?

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread Peter Andrews

I'm with Esteban here, and I'd venture to say that, on a new bike,
with a new brooks, it is most likely your saddle.  Grease the rails,
and be sure to use whatever it is you use on top of the saddle
(proofide, Obenauf's) on the underside as well.  Get it in there
between the rear plate and the leather (where the rivets are).  This
spot can be the source of a creak that resonates through the whole
bike.  You might loosen the tension a bit and then re-tighten after
you've gotten some goo in there.

As for the front end shimmy:  I used to call them speed wobbles when I
was a kid on a skateboard.  It's more to do with physics than
anything.  I get the same shimmy on my Bomba at medium speeds and no-
hands.  The shimmy has less (or nothing) to do with your super-nice
headset, and more to do with the speed you're going, and the geometry
of the Bomba's front end, specifically the rake (and trail) of the
fork.  This bike is designed as an off-road bike capable of heavy,
loaded touring.  I commute on my Bomba with a loaded rack up front,
and it feels quite solid.  When I take it for a jaunt sans front load,
the steering feels positively twitchy (and responsive, as if ready to
maneuver across a dry creek-bed strewn with rocks the size of soccer
balls).  I'd say, basically, don't sweat the shimmy.  It has more to
do with the function of your bike, not a dysfunction.

Hope this helps...

On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> much pressure on the foot.
>
> Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> feedback to solve them:
>
> - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> as always!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> René
>
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[RBW] Insane Dent Removal on Atlantis

2010-04-18 Thread Shaun Meehan

Another dog-related bike damage story. I had the Atlantis in the work
stand doing some work on it. When I was done I took it off of the
stand, and leaned the bike against the stand with the saddle resting
on the clamp. I had a couple of the dogs in the shop with me and when
I went to put the tools away a Great Dane wrestling broke out (not
uncommon). Sure enough, the bike and the work stand went down in a
noisy heap. When I went to retrieve the bike, not only was there paint
damage, there was a fairly significant dent on the top of the top
tube. This is actually the second bike that I've had dented on account
of a dog toppling it over. Crazy!

I'm sure the dent was purely cosmetic but after I got over my initial
anger and frustration, I got to wondering about how the dent might be
removed, or if it were even possible. I had a channel lock and a clean
rag sitting right there so I spontaneously stuck the rag into the jaws
of the channel lock, adjusted the channel lock and positioned it below
the top tube with the ends of the jaws on either side of the dent. I
started gently and carefully (as much as possible) sort of
"oil-canning" the tube. The bike was positioned under a fluorescent
light fixture and there was a perfect line reflected along the top
tube and it distorted when I squeezed the channel lock; so I could see
what was happening with the tube. Kind of interesting!

Anyway I patiently worked the dent in that manner, squeezing and
releasing pressure while rotating the jaws and working them towards
the dent. All the while watching the line that was reflected in the
top tube to see how things were progressing. To my amazement, the dent
was definitely improving. After working at it for quite awhile, the
dent was almost completely gone! The paint is still bunged-up around
where the dent was but if I were to touch it up, I bet someone who
didn't know it was there would never even notice that the frame was
dented.

I can't say that I'd recommend this technique because it could easily
end-up doing more harm than good. Especially if one got over zealous.
I have a bad habit of trying things that could result in making things
worse. And often times things do get worse! I mean really? Squeezing
the tube with a channel lock? On a fairly expensive frame? This time
it worked quite well though. I'm still somewhat in disbelief. Just
thought I'd share it with y'all.

Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread charlie

Nice looking setup.love the shellacked green bar tape...wow! I
don't know why there were no comments on it but perhaps they didn't
know what to make of it and were simply stunned. Until someone gets
tuned into the whole idea of a lugged steel non suspended bicycle, I
think many just don't get it because there isn't much exposure to
anything different in most cycling publications and bike shops. You
won't find much appreciation for the old school way of doing things on
a bicycle outside of the enlightened few. Its a narrow road that leads
to heaven brother, stay on it.

On Apr 17, 10:52 pm, Esteban  wrote:
> Re-grease everything.  The creak will likely go away.  Everything -
> saddle rails, pedals, etc, etc.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> > Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> > I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> > outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> > twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> > The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> > on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> > the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> > I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> > much pressure on the foot.
>
> > Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> > aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> > "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> > like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> > at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> > I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> > I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> > wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> > feedback to solve them:
>
> > - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> > the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> > steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> > King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> > fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> > - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> > cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> > fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> > there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> > stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> > I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> > as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> > towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> > Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> > as always!
>
> > Thanks again!
>
> > René
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[RBW] Re: Newbie Seeks Advice on Ca Pacific Coast riding/tech advice

2010-04-18 Thread doug peterson

+1 for the "train out of town" options from Anne & Reid.  Big cities,
even one as compact & beautiful as San Francisco, are challenging to
cross.  Unless one is bound & determined to pedal every mile of a
tour, public transportation across any major urban area is a sensible
option.

dougP

On Apr 17, 8:59 pm, Anne Paulson  wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 8:47 PM, reidplum  wrote:
> > I'm not a fan of any of the routes out of San Francisco, so here's my
> > wimpy suggestion.
>
> > BART to San Fran, CalTrain to Redwood City station, Woodside Road/Hwy
> > 84 through Woodside and over the hill, and -- you're there, on the
> > coast.
>
> If you choose this route, one small change: instead of Highway 84 up
> over the mountains, take the route all local cyclists take, Old La
> Honda Road. It starts maybe a mile or two south of Highway 84, is not
> steep, and is much quieter than, prettier than and in all ways
> superior to the Highway 84 ascent. At the top, just continue across
> Skyline and down the other side, ending on Highway 84 partway down to
> the coast.
>
> Oh, two small changes. Take CalTrain to Palo Alto, not Redwood City.
> That way you'll be in the good riding almost immediately, whereas with
> Redwood City there's a bit of tedious suburbs before the good stuff.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

Now, now, Rivendell has certainly made its share of style statements. There
is nothing at all wrong with that, as long as one recognizes them for what
they are. I have no idea if the second tt on the B is cosmetic or
structural.

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[RBW] Re: RB-1 Crown race diameter

2010-04-18 Thread Justin August

You trashed the shifters? Were they still functioning? At the very
least you should have donated them to a local bike church/kitchen/non-
profit. I know it's in vogue around here to bash those but throwing
away functioning equipment is ridiculous.

On Apr 17, 10:03 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> I know I should post on the IBOB list but I'm betting that a few of
> you have or had one. I picked up a 59cm green/white '91 for a good
> price but the headset needs replacing. Is the RB-1 crown race JIS 27.0
> or ISO 26.4 mm in diameter?
> By the way ... the paint is in pretty good condition. But, the bike
> had been "upgraded?" to an 8 speed cassette and STI... those shifters
> went in the trash. ( not worth EBAY IMO).
> I'm putting some down tube shifters on.
>
> ~Mike~
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqa inspired Surly

2010-04-18 Thread cyclotourist

Park Check

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Mike  wrote:

> Let's try that again. I was inspired by this particular Hunqa build:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306...@n07/4481431218/in/pool-1358...@n23
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[RBW] Re: Hunqa inspired Surly

Let's try that again. I was inspired by this particular Hunqa build:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306...@n07/4481431218/in/pool-1358...@n23

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[RBW] Hunqa inspired Surly

I decided to take the fenders and rack off my Surly and put on the
Schwalbe Marathong 700x47s I have to make the bike into more of an off-
road bike. I was inspired by recent build shots of the Hunqapillar,
this one in particular:

http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/hunqapillar/50-713

I'm gonna ride the Surly like this in Forest Park later this week but
eventually might convert it to a triple with 8 speeds in the rear. I
have the parts including a Sugino triple, derailers, and shifters. I
have a feeling I'll like it.

Here's a shot of the Surly I took before heading to work yesterday:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41335...@n00/4530669841/in/photostream/

I bet this will be a lot of fun to ride in Forest Park.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cantilever Brake issue on Hillborne

2010-04-18 Thread carnerda...@bellsouth.net

I may have missed this before, but is there a reason you have not tried 
the fork crown daruma?
Also, for those who have or are considering 650B Sam Hillbornes, the 
fork crown dimensions must be different.  I have a Nitto mini rack on my 
52 and the bolt is long enough to fit a spacer on the front and a thick 
washer on the back.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/carner/4504006453/


Cannot be sure since I am using V-brakes, but looks like there would be 
room for the fork crown hanger and the L-bracket.

David


Earl Grey wrote:

I have a 56cm SH with 720 Tektros: with the Tektro forkcrown-mounted
cable stop, no problems. Switched to a headset-mounted stop (to
install Nitto front rack and fenders), squeal (but no shudder),
regardless of toe-in settings with stock pads. Switched to VO squeal-
free pads, no problems, regardless of toe-in position.

I highly recommend the forkcrown-mounted cable hanger, if your setup
can accommodate it (if you have a Nitto mini front and a fender that
mounts to the rack bolt with an L-bracket, adding the cable hanger
doesn't work on my Sam because the Nitto bolt (integral to the rack)
is just a bit too short. Without the fender, I could just make it
work, but with the fender, no dice). See 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/
for the cable forkcrown-mounted hanger.

Gernot


On Apr 18, 12:38 am, rperks  wrote:
  

Second what he said, and go through the standards: Clean the rims with
alchohol, some even sand them lightly.  If that does not do it try
lightly sanding or filing the pads to clean them as well.  Next stop
is Pauls or V-Brakes.  I went through this with my Cross-check, but
the judder was at all speeds, as set of mini-v brakes brought it
almost to a omplete stop, but I was so tired of fiddling with it I
sold the bike and bought the Rawland with discs.  The stud slop is
only one weak link in the system, and I believe it helps to magnify
every other weak spot in the system.

The other possibility is that with the wide profile and High cable
they may be too powerful.  Sounds hard to swallow, but I can make the
fork hop on the rawland with discs.  Watch the front wheel closely
when you are doing this and see if it is spinning in a stop start kind
of a thing or locked up and hopping along like a pogo stick.

Rob

On Apr 17, 10:22 am, CycloFiend  wrote:







on 4/17/10 9:51 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
  

I find it strange that some SH owners have this issue while others
have not had an issue. My pads were installed flush, but they are
koolstop MTB pads with the the designed to provide tow-in
automatically. I get no squeal just the low-speed shudder.  I will
look into pad angle.


Pad angle will definitely cause that issue. I've had that happen with and
without accompanying squawking. The Kool Stops also tend to bite a newer rim
a lot better than most pads. New pads + New rims = shudder, IME.
  
I've never been able to run the KS pads flush. Always put a touch o' toe-in

on them.
  
I'd also just double-check that the housing endcap is not moving in the

hanger, and that there's no gap when the housing runs into the brake lever
itself.
  

I am using the max straddle cable height allowed by the stock cable
that came with the CR720's. I will try increasing the spring tension.


Photo anywhere?
  
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread JoelMatthews

> Is there a purpose or is Riv just making their own little style
> statement?

And how dare they?  Any effort to make things outside of comfortable
norms ought to be squashed like a cockroach.

On Apr 18, 8:19 am, SJB  wrote:
> Can someone explain why the double top tube is necessary?
> I just don't get it. Rough stuff bikes have been around for a long
> time and do quite well with a single top tube.
> Is there a purpose or is Riv just making their own little style
> statement?
>
> Steve
>
> On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> > Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> > I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> > outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> > twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> > The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> > on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> > the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> > I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> > much pressure on the foot.
>
> > Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> > aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> > "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> > like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> > at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> > I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> > I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> > wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> > feedback to solve them:
>
> > - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> > the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> > steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> > King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> > fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> > - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> > cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> > fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> > there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> > stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> > I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> > as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> > towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> > Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> > as always!
>
> > Thanks again!
>
> > René
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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread happyriding



On Apr 18, 7:19 am, SJB  wrote:
> Can someone explain why the double top tube is necessary?
> I just don't get it.

Ever ridden a 66 cm (C-C) frame with a 62 cm top tube?

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[RBW] Re: Bombadil @ Tierra Bella 35 mile ride - shellaced bars and creaky sounds...

2010-04-18 Thread SJB

Can someone explain why the double top tube is necessary?
I just don't get it. Rough stuff bikes have been around for a long
time and do quite well with a single top tube.
Is there a purpose or is Riv just making their own little style
statement?

Steve

On Apr 17, 10:49 pm, Rene Sterental  wrote:
> Today was the Tierra Bella Century and I rode the 35 mile ride with the
> Bombadil. You can check out some pictures here:http://tinyurl.com/y6nuxy2.
>
> I taped my handlebars and shellacked them. I think the result is
> outstanding, my first ever experience with cloth and shellac. I also taped,
> twined and shellacked the stand.
>
> The day was great, I'm out of shape but working on it. I get bad hot spots
> on my left foot, seems I have a Morton's Neuroma on that foot. At least with
> the platform pedals I was able to move my foot around. It seems worse when
> I'm putting pressure to climb, subsides when I can pedal without applying so
> much pressure on the foot.
>
> Amazingly, my bike seemed to be invisible to all the crabonites and
> aluminites passing me on the left all morning long. The only guy who said
> "Nice bike!" was a young guy riding a Bianchi single speed, wearing a beard
> like Sheldon's and carrying his stuff in a messenger Timbuktu bag. Not even
> at rest stops did anyone approach me to ask what kind of bike was I riding.
> I guess that in their world, carbon is the ultimate and nothing else exists.
>
> I followed the tire pressure guidelines from the chart, and the bike felt
> wonderful. I did, however, note the following problems and would like
> feedback to solve them:
>
> - Going a bit fast on downhill slopes, about 16 mph, removing the hands from
> the bars caused a shimmy. It was kind of a low frequency shimmy, gentle but
> steady. The bike kept going straight, but with the shimmy. I have a Chris
> King headset; is it perhaps a little tight? Read somewhere that someone
> fixed that problem by loosening their headset a bit.
>
> - The bike creaks constantly; there is some creaking when coasting, but I
> cannot associate it with anything in particular. Perhaps the Berthoud
> fenders, perhaps the BB. Then, when pedaling with my hands on the hoods,
> there was a regular loud creak that towards the end I could replicate when
> stopped by twisting on the handlebars. Both of my stem bolts are as tight as
> I can tighten them by hand. This creaking superimposed on the rolling creaks
> as well and created a cacophony (in my ears) that seemed to get worse
> towards the end of the ride. Specially if I was pedaling harder or uphill.
>
> Any help with suggestions on how to fix these problems will be appreciated
> as always!
>
> Thanks again!
>
> René
>
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[RBW] Re: Cantilever Brake issue on Hillborne

I have a 56cm SH with 720 Tektros: with the Tektro forkcrown-mounted
cable stop, no problems. Switched to a headset-mounted stop (to
install Nitto front rack and fenders), squeal (but no shudder),
regardless of toe-in settings with stock pads. Switched to VO squeal-
free pads, no problems, regardless of toe-in position.

I highly recommend the forkcrown-mounted cable hanger, if your setup
can accommodate it (if you have a Nitto mini front and a fender that
mounts to the rack bolt with an L-bracket, adding the cable hanger
doesn't work on my Sam because the Nitto bolt (integral to the rack)
is just a bit too short. Without the fender, I could just make it
work, but with the fender, no dice). See 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4426738206/
for the cable forkcrown-mounted hanger.

Gernot


On Apr 18, 12:38 am, rperks  wrote:
> Second what he said, and go through the standards: Clean the rims with
> alchohol, some even sand them lightly.  If that does not do it try
> lightly sanding or filing the pads to clean them as well.  Next stop
> is Pauls or V-Brakes.  I went through this with my Cross-check, but
> the judder was at all speeds, as set of mini-v brakes brought it
> almost to a omplete stop, but I was so tired of fiddling with it I
> sold the bike and bought the Rawland with discs.  The stud slop is
> only one weak link in the system, and I believe it helps to magnify
> every other weak spot in the system.
>
> The other possibility is that with the wide profile and High cable
> they may be too powerful.  Sounds hard to swallow, but I can make the
> fork hop on the rawland with discs.  Watch the front wheel closely
> when you are doing this and see if it is spinning in a stop start kind
> of a thing or locked up and hopping along like a pogo stick.
>
> Rob
>
> On Apr 17, 10:22 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > on 4/17/10 9:51 AM, MikeC at mecinib...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
> > > I find it strange that some SH owners have this issue while others
> > > have not had an issue. My pads were installed flush, but they are
> > > koolstop MTB pads with the the designed to provide tow-in
> > > automatically. I get no squeal just the low-speed shudder.  I will
> > > look into pad angle.
>
> > Pad angle will definitely cause that issue. I've had that happen with and
> > without accompanying squawking. The Kool Stops also tend to bite a newer rim
> > a lot better than most pads. New pads + New rims = shudder, IME.
>
> > I've never been able to run the KS pads flush. Always put a touch o' toe-in
> > on them.
>
> > I'd also just double-check that the housing endcap is not moving in the
> > hanger, and that there's no gap when the housing runs into the brake lever
> > itself.
>
> > > I am using the max straddle cable height allowed by the stock cable
> > > that came with the CR720's. I will try increasing the spring tension.
>
> > Photo anywhere?
>
> > - J
>
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