Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
on 5/18/10 11:36 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: > on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > >> On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: >>> >>> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this. When they describe >>> the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer >>> than a 6 cm Technomic stem? >>> >> >> If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension) and a >> 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the >> same spot--no matter what you do. Additionally, you will never get >> the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other. > > That's the statement I'm not following. > > If the extension is 6.5 cm on the Dirt Drop stem, and the extension is 6 cm > on the Technomic, the former will be .5 cm closer with the bars at the same > height. > > The extension is the measurement from the bolt center, which is the same as > the center of the headtube. Whether you get there with an up-angle stem such > as the DD or the "7" style of the Technomic doesn't matter. Now, y'see, I shouldn't be making late posts when fighting a head cold... It finally occurred to me why the 6 cm "7" style stem doesn't have a 6 cm extension for the purposes of this comparison. Now, it did take me putting pencil dots on the 12 cm Technomic I'm not using and measuring, but, hey, sometimes I'm a visual learner... I was definitely confusing the idea of "Reach" and "Extension". Made me dig through my ref's and refind this link: http://www.habcycles.com/fitting.html and I'll work through this when my brain is better.. http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/53925.html oh, and though this is set up more for threadless (i.e. spacers) here's a stem calculator (allows comparison for two sizes) - http://www.brightspoke.com/t/bike-stem-calculator.html? - Jim "...bed!" -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Current Classics Bicycle Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc Cross Bike Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx Single Speed Garage Photo Gallery - http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg Working Bikes & Practical Hardware - http://www.cyclofiend.com/working Work Shops of the iBob's - http://www.cyclofiend.com/shop Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com Send In Your Photos! - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace." William Gibson - "All Tomorrow's Parties" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting
Are we "Bunchers?" "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" I don't think that's going to work for me... can we use one of those made-up Rivendell model names instead? Philip On May 18, 10:44 am, Brad Gantt wrote: > On my way home from work I saw a dapper looking gent on a beautiful > blue Riv custom riding around the golf course in B'wood. Based on > previous Flikr sightings, I'd say it was Aaron Thomas but it was a > fleeting glimpse. I was jealous you were on your bike while I was in > may car. FYI, my office is about 2 minutes from the course. I'm > thinking an after-work jaunt up into the hills might be in order. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] shopsack with drops
Does anyone have experience using the shopsack with drop bars? The wideness of it concerns me. I ride 44mm bars with a medium basket. I would just go to RBWHQ to check it out but it looks like they are out of the grid grey in the size I want. I'll make the trip when it is in stock. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
Wow - I guess I am the only person who had these brakes and didn't care for them. I ordered my AHH built with the polished center mount version of the Racer and found them to be rather problematic. Neither the folks at Rivendell nor my LBS were able to help with the problems I was having: Problem number one: to remove the wheel, I had to really fight to get the straddle wire free. When the brakes were adjusted with the pads running close to the rim, I couldn't close them enough to get the straddle wire out easily - even after hitting the QR button on the brake levers. Problem number two: the brakes wouldn't center up consistently after braking. They would be fine 75% of the time, but every now and then (and at least once a ride) the front or rear would spring back unevenly, leaving one pad rubbing the rim. The folks at Rivendell weren't able to make this happen with a pair in their shop no matter how much they tried. I tried adjusting the spring tensions, and finally took it in to my LBS who adjusted the brakes, but I kept having the same problem. I am a pretty good mechanic and routinely build up and break down my own bikes - there aren't a lot of complicated things to adjust on a brake so this problem was really frustrating. It went on for months before I finally swapped them out for a pair of Silvers and sold them at a hefty loss. I want to close saying that I continue to be a fan of Paul Components, I am having a touring bike built and will use their cantis on that bike, I use their e-lever on two of my fixed gear bikes, and would love to own one of their road cranks some day. Roberto On May 17, 4:39 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 17, 4:10 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > It's only a cantilever post if it is actually, at this moment, supporting a > > cantilever brake arm. Otherwise it's only a potential cantilever post. > > > Patrick "if a tree falls in the forest, etc etc etc" Moore > > Thank you, Patrick. I have a hard time with such questions. And, so > it follows that since the "racer" mount is not supporting - indeed, it > has not event the potential to support - a cantilever brake, we can > not rightly refer to this mount as a cantilever post, lest we violate > certain laws of truth and knowledge. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting
I like the idea of the made-up Rivendell model names..."Istari" or some such nonsense, perhaps? On May 19, 3:44 am, Philip Williamson wrote: > Are we "Bunchers?" > "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" > > I don't think that's going to work for me... can we use one of those > made-up Rivendell model names instead? > > Philip > > On May 18, 10:44 am, Brad Gantt wrote: > > > On my way home from work I saw a dapper looking gent on a beautiful > > blue Riv custom riding around the golf course in B'wood. Based on > > previous Flikr sightings, I'd say it was Aaron Thomas but it was a > > fleeting glimpse. I was jealous you were on your bike while I was in > > may car. FYI, my office is about 2 minutes from the course. I'm > > thinking an after-work jaunt up into the hills might be in order. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Rivendell/Nitto "Big Back Rack" $140
Used for two tours, plating is completely intact, no dents or bends, comes with the adjusting hardware. $140 delivered in the lower 48. I take good care of my stuff and this rack is in fantastic condition. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:01 AM, CycloFiend wrote: > Made me dig through my ref's and refind this link: > > http://www.habcycles.com/fitting.html > > and I'll work through this when my brain is better.. > > http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/53925.html > > oh, and though this is set up more for threadless (i.e. spacers) here's a > stem calculator (allows comparison for two sizes) - > > http://www.brightspoke.com/t/bike-stem-calculator.html? > There is also: http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx from Alex Wetmore -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
Rene, I say go for it and get the Atlantis. Especially if you have a dedicated mountain bike. Maybe before you pull the trigger you could get out on a 61cm for a while. One thing I'd do if I were getting an Atlantis is have braze-ons added either mid fork, or behind the fork for the large Nitto front rack so that it mounts up perfectly. I saw this Atlantis a few years ago parked in front of Powell's Books here in Portland. I've always thought it was about one of the most perfect Rivendells I've ever seen--http://www.flickr.com/photos/ 41335...@n00/2071610821/ --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
Bear in mind too that Noodles have a longish reach if you set them up flat-ramped. So a stem that's a cm or two shorter than one might expect to run for a given frame size isn't that uncommon... Steve -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Rene Sterental Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 9:06 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen That's why I have 8 cm stems on my AHH and my Bombadil. If I wanted to run longer stems, I'd definitely need smaller frames. The issue would then be how much vertical stem and seatpost get exposed to get the proper heights and relationships. I could place the handlebar below the saddle... Oh wait! That's how I rode pre-Rivendell and I had the hand, neck and shoulder pain... I think I'm happy with my short 8 cm stems... ;-) René On 5/18/10, EricP wrote: > This is an interesting conversation. Every time I think about getting > an even bigger frame, end up thinking more about reach more than > standover. Based on these statements, I should be trying a 63cm > frame. Yet about a year and a half ago straddled a 62 orange > Quickbeam. The reach was so far my arms were fully extended on the > hoods. Couldn't really even get to the drops. > > Maybe that bike had an unusually long stem. But to get that bike to > work for me, would probably need a 7 or 8cm stem. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On May 18, 7:10�pm, jamison brosseau > wrote: >> its funny cause the atlantis was the first riv bike i was interested >> in. �i plan on getting another next year, but am afraid the 61 would >> be too small. �when i was concerned about the 61 vs 63 Keven suggested >> i just ride the 63 for a while and see what i thought. �I couldn't be >> happier. �Out of curiosity how tall are you. �I am 6 ft even. >> thanks jamison >> >> On May 18, 7:40�pm, Rene Sterental wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > My saddle height on both bikes is set at 76.5cm; with your saddle height >> > I >> > do agree that standover with the 60 Bombadil should not be an issue. I >> > haven't hurt myself, but I always get very conscious of the top tube >> > height >> > when straddling the bike, especially if wearing sandals... :-) >> >> > I don't quite feel atracted to the Hunqa... can't really say why... if I >> > ended up swapping frames, I think I'd be more comfortable with the >> > Atlantis. >> > It's a bike that is somehow growing on me after my intial reaction of >> > rejection during my pre-Riv days... :-) >> >> > I do love my Bombadil, in the end, perhaps I'll just keep it and just >> > ride >> > it with up to 700x50 tires to keep the standover height manageable. >> >> > Ren� >> >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> > For more options, visit this group >> > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text >> - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
On May 18, 8:23 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I'm 5'11". It seems to me that I might have a shorter torso but long arms > and long legs. However, I've never been able to figure it out... :-) not sure about the long legs - your saddle height (76.5) seems a touch low for a leggy 5'11." >I could place the handlebar below the saddle... Oh wait! That's how I rode >>pre-Rivendell and I had the hand, neck and shoulder pain... there are many variables involved in a good bike fit. lots and lots and lots of folks ride with the bars below the saddle with zero problems. not meaning to take away from the "bars-up" approach, but it's not the only way to be comfortable on a bike. have you considered a professional bike fitting? it's not cheap, but some folks really benefit from that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
It is difficult to do the geometric calculations which compare the Technomic to the Dirt Drop because it is hard to find a right triangle in the setup. It is fair to say that a 6 or 7cm Technomic will get you as close as you will get to the same position as an 80mm Dirt Drop -- within 5mm or so as Cyclofiend stated. However, with smaller frames, the Dirt Drop will bottom out in the steerer and you'll never the the Dirt Drop as low as the Technomic or Techno Deluxe. On May 19, 9:01 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/18/10 11:36 PM, CycloFiend at cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: > > > > > > > on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >> On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > > >>> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this. When they describe > >>> the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer > >>> than a 6 cm Technomic stem? > > >> If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension) and a > >> 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the > >> same spot--no matter what you do. Additionally, you will never get > >> the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other. > > > That's the statement I'm not following. > > > If the extension is 6.5 cm on the Dirt Drop stem, and the extension is 6 cm > > on the Technomic, the former will be .5 cm closer with the bars at the same > > height. > > > The extension is the measurement from the bolt center, which is the same as > > the center of the headtube. Whether you get there with an up-angle stem such > > as the DD or the "7" style of the Technomic doesn't matter. > > Now, y'see, I shouldn't be making late posts when fighting a head cold... > > It finally occurred to me why the 6 cm "7" style stem doesn't have a 6 cm > extension for the purposes of this comparison. Now, it did take me putting > pencil dots on the 12 cm Technomic I'm not using and measuring, but, hey, > sometimes I'm a visual learner... > > I was definitely confusing the idea of "Reach" and "Extension". > > Made me dig through my ref's and refind this link: > > http://www.habcycles.com/fitting.html > > and I'll work through this when my brain is better.. > > http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/53925.html > > oh, and though this is set up more for threadless (i.e. spacers) here's a > stem calculator (allows comparison for two sizes) - > > http://www.brightspoke.com/t/bike-stem-calculator.html? > > - Jim "...bed!" > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Current Classics Bicycle Photo Gallery -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cc > Cross Bike Photo Gallery -http://www.cyclofiend.com/cx > Single Speed Garage Photo Gallery -http://www.cyclofiend.com/ssg > Working Bikes & Practical Hardware -http://www.cyclofiend.com/working > Work Shops of the iBob's -http://www.cyclofiend.com/shop > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > Send In Your Photos! - Here's how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > "That which is overdesigned, too highly specific, anticipates outcome; the > anticipation of outcome guarantees, if not failure, the absence of grace." > > William Gibson - "All Tomorrow's Parties" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting
please, no more Rivendell name games! we've beat that one to death. and I thought Aaron had a Romulus... at least from all the pic's I've seen. ~Mike~ On May 19, 3:54 am, Blindrobert wrote: > I like the idea of the made-up Rivendell model names..."Istari" or > some such nonsense, perhaps? > > On May 19, 3:44 am, Philip Williamson > wrote: > > > > > > > Are we "Bunchers?" > > "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" > > > I don't think that's going to work for me... can we use one of those > > made-up Rivendell model names instead? > > > Philip > > > On May 18, 10:44 am, Brad Gantt wrote: > > > > On my way home from work I saw a dapper looking gent on a beautiful > > > blue Riv custom riding around the golf course in B'wood. Based on > > > previous Flikr sightings, I'd say it was Aaron Thomas but it was a > > > fleeting glimpse. I was jealous you were on your bike while I was in > > > may car. FYI, my office is about 2 minutes from the course. I'm > > > thinking an after-work jaunt up into the hills might be in order. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Selle Saddle
I still have it.Some close to pulling the plug From: Bruce To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, May 18, 2010 10:56:27 PM Subject: [RBW] Selle Saddle Hobie: Is that thing sold yet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
Hey Calm - The ride was so nice I guess you had to say it twice :-) The Rivboy's are putting together a Saluki for me now. They have a few new frames left over. I bought mine sight unseen, never even saw a Rivendell. Wanted one for years though and well, the Saluki will soon be heading to upstate NY. On May 18, 7:09 pm, Calm54 wrote: > After riding the Saluki for a few weeks, not on an exclusive basis, I > think I know what that famous "Riv" ride feels like. Wow, how do they > do that? So smooth and comfortable. It is better than my surly long > haul trucker and definitely better than my carbon fiber bike. I just > sit here thinking of my next ride. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: shopsack with drops
I currently have my bike set up with 44mm drop bars and a medium basket, and I use my shopsack daily with no problems. The bag does touch the bars a little bit but it is nothing that gets in the way of my brakes (it probably wouldn't work so well with brifters), but it isn't a fuss for me. Most of the time, the bag is only about half full and I can just tuck the corners in away from the bars. The only time that the bag really starts to interfere with the bars is when it is completely stuffed full. That being said, I think that the slight inconvenience that I experience from the setup is completely worth the functionality of the bag. I really love the way the bag just clicks in and out of the basket and I have even used the handles of the bag to thrash other stuff to the top in instances when I needed more storage. This bag has to easily be one of the best cycling related items that I have bought. Get it. On May 19, 4:15 am, J L wrote: > Does anyone have experience using the shopsack with drop bars? The wideness > of it concerns me. I ride 44mm bars with a medium basket. I would just go > to RBWHQ to check it out but it looks like they are out of the grid grey in > the size I want. I'll make the trip when it is in stock. > > Jason > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki
and welcome to 650B! Beware there may be a slippery slope ahead On May 18, 10:48 pm, Calm54 wrote: > Thanks! > On May 18, 4:41 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > > > Welcome to the club! > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
On May 19, 12:36 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > > >> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this. When they describe > >> the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer > >> than a 6 cm Technomic stem? > > > If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension) and a > > 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the > > same spot--no matter what you do. Additionally, you will never get > > the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other. > > That's the statement I'm not following. Here's a picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4620513517/ The next picture shows the trigonometry/math. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
on 5/19/10 5:29 AM, Seth Vidal at skvi...@gmail.com wrote: > There is also: > > http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx > > from Alex Wetmore Excellent! That's the one I was thinking about. Thanks Seth! - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "Steel's what you want for a messenger bike. Weight. Big basket up front. Not cardboard with some crazy aramid shit wrapped around it, weighs about as much as a sandwich." -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
on 5/19/10 12:24 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > On May 19, 12:36 am, CycloFiend wrote: >> on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: >> >>> On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: >> I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this. When they describe the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer than a 6 cm Technomic stem? >> >>> If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension) and a >>> 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the >>> same spot--no matter what you do. Additionally, you will never get >>> the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other. >> >> That's the statement I'm not following. > > > Here's a picture: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4620513517/ > > The next picture shows the trigonometry/math. Ok. So, I think we were both making the same error, though on different aspects of the problem. In your photo, you are showing the 6.5 _extension_ as a 6.5 _reach_ The extension would be at a 90 degree angle from the quill, as shown in the Habenero diagram, or the alex w. tool that Seth shared. I was thinking of the Technomic as having a 6 cm extension, when it actually had a 6 cm reach. Thanks for creating that image. - Jim -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com "There were messengers who named their bikes, but Chevette never would have done that, and somehow because she did think about it like it was something alive." William Gibson - "Virtual Light" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
On May 19, 12:16 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > > These must be guidelines, obviously. After measuring horizontal distance > between my AHH and my Bombadil, the Bombadil is 1 - 1.5cm longer, although > the height difference between the saddle and bars might be affecting this > measurment, therefore the range. > Where are you measuring from? The measurement you should be concerned with is the distance from the middle of the saddle where you sit to the bars. > > No plans for any serious touring, just S24Os and see if I can overcome my > foot pain to be able to enjoy longer day rides. Hopefully as I lose weight, > the foot pain will diminish... (is this realistic?) > I don't see how--unless you are climbing lots of hills and you don't have a low enough gear, which means you are forced to exert tremendous force on the pedals in order to turn the cranks. I would try some custom orthotics in your cycling shoes. It would be nice if you could see a podiatrist who has some experience dealing with cyclists. The solution may be as simple as shimming your shoes a few degrees to either the inside or the outside. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shoe Splats!
Like many Riv products those are heinous looking and (mildly) practical. I first saw them yesterday and chuckled, but then riding home in the rain with water repellent pants and jacket, I thought they might serve a use for commuters like me. In the winter I use NEOS overshoes, but they are a lot to lug around and your feet can heat up in there. On May 17, 12:59 am, manueljohnacosta wrote: > Rivendell's shoe contraption is quite smart! I laughed about it at > first but I can see myself using these on hikes or muddy bike rides. > I'm curious about the heel straping, and how it's connected. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
Disclosure: Paul is a good friend of mine. Regarding the straddle wire, that sounds like a setup problem to me. I run Paul brakes on a few of my bikes, and that's not a problem with any of them. In fact, just squeezing the centerpulls by the pads should release the cable, or close to it. Without seeing your setup though, it's hard to say where the problem may have been. Regarding spring tension, did you try a set of replacement springs? I had an issue with a brake not centering, picked up a new spring, and it fixed the problem. -Gino in Chico, CA On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 3:37 AM, Blindrobert wrote: > Wow - I guess I am the only person who had these brakes and didn't > care for them. I ordered my AHH built with the polished center mount > version of the Racer and found them to be rather problematic. Neither > the folks at Rivendell nor my LBS were able to help with the problems > I was having: > > Problem number one: to remove the wheel, I had to really fight to get > the straddle wire free. When the brakes were adjusted with the pads > running close to the rim, I couldn't close them enough to get the > straddle wire out easily - even after hitting the QR button on the > brake levers. > > Problem number two: the brakes wouldn't center up consistently after > braking. They would be fine 75% of the time, but every now and then > (and at least once a ride) the front or rear would spring back > unevenly, leaving one pad rubbing the rim. The folks at Rivendell > weren't able to make this happen with a pair in their shop no matter > how much they tried. I tried adjusting the spring tensions, and > finally took it in to my LBS who adjusted the brakes, but I kept > having the same problem. > > I am a pretty good mechanic and routinely build up and break down my > own bikes - there aren't a lot of complicated things to adjust on a > brake so this problem was really frustrating. It went on for months > before I finally swapped them out for a pair of Silvers and sold them > at a hefty loss. > > I want to close saying that I continue to be a fan of Paul Components, > I am having a touring bike built and will use their cantis on that > bike, I use their e-lever on two of my fixed gear bikes, and would > love to own one of their road cranks some day. > > Roberto > > On May 17, 4:39 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: >> On May 17, 4:10 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> >> > It's only a cantilever post if it is actually, at this moment, supporting a >> > cantilever brake arm. Otherwise it's only a potential cantilever post. >> >> > Patrick "if a tree falls in the forest, etc etc etc" Moore >> >> Thank you, Patrick. I have a hard time with such questions. And, so >> it follows that since the "racer" mount is not supporting - indeed, it >> has not event the potential to support - a cantilever brake, we can >> not rightly refer to this mount as a cantilever post, lest we violate >> certain laws of truth and knowledge. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
Beautiful new Roadeo frame received, will have the LBS build it up this week. Am thinking about SRAM Apex (brifters, derailleur, and 11-32 cassette). Or, possibly, the Apex brifters with SRAM XX derailleur and 11-36 cassette. Cranks will probably be a TA Cyclotourist knock-off from Velo Orange, with 26-42 chainrings. I don't know much about these new SRAM systems or how they would work for the Roadeo. Any comments, feedback, opinions, criticisms, threats of bodily injury, or endorsements from the list? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Saluki
terryg wrote: >and welcome to 650B! >Beware there may be a slippery slope ahead Indeed. My Saluki was my first 650b bike and I now have 5. (Equally the fault of K.Pacenti, for bringing the wheelsize to mountain biking) Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting
Where's Waldo? Yes, I am most likely the person in question. And Mike is correct: I have a Romulus. Aaron On May 19, 7:37 am, Michael_S wrote: > please, no more Rivendell name games! we've beat that one to > death. > > and I thought Aaron had a Romulus... at least from all the pic's I've > seen. > > ~Mike~ > > On May 19, 3:54 am, Blindrobert wrote: > > > > > I like the idea of the made-up Rivendell model names..."Istari" or > > some such nonsense, perhaps? > > > On May 19, 3:44 am, Philip Williamson > > wrote: > > > > Are we "Bunchers?" > > > "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" > > > > I don't think that's going to work for me... can we use one of those > > > made-up Rivendell model names instead? > > > > Philip > > > > On May 18, 10:44 am, Brad Gantt wrote: > > > > > On my way home from work I saw a dapper looking gent on a beautiful > > > > blue Riv custom riding around the golf course in B'wood. Based on > > > > previous Flikr sightings, I'd say it was Aaron Thomas but it was a > > > > fleeting glimpse. I was jealous you were on your bike while I was in > > > > may car. FYI, my office is about 2 minutes from the course. I'm > > > > thinking an after-work jaunt up into the hills might be in order. > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.-Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
I don't know anything about Apex itself, but my understanding of SRAM gruppos is that the shifters and front and rear derailleurs must all be SRAM, because they have them optimized for the double tap shifting. I don't know if mixing an Apex with XX will work. You'd have to ask. Although I don't have the SRAM brifters, I have test ridden several bikes with them and I really like the shifting, profile and feel of the hoods. If I didn't already have a bunch of Campy Ergo stuff, I'd consider going SRAM myself. The only thing that strikes me odd is your thought about using a crank with 26-42 chainrings with an 11-32 cassette. I don't know your level of fitness or how much you weigh, but I would imagine that that's overkill. Since the Roadeo is not intended to carry loads, all you have is you and your bike (and maybe a small saddlebag). I would imagine that the stock SRAM compact crank of 50-34 or 50-36, combined with an 11-32, is more than sufficient to get you anywhere you want to go. For comparison, I weigh about 155-60, ride completely unloaded (except for a small saddlebag toolkit), and I'm able to get up even the steepest grades with a 50-36 and 12-27, although sometimes I wish I had a 34t inner ring or maybe a 28t big cassette. I'd think that the Apex's 50-34 and 11-32 is more than sufficient for even the steepest climbs. If you don't think you'll ever be riding the 50t chainring, swap it out for a 48. Aaron On May 19, 8:26 am, reynoldslugs wrote: > Beautiful new Roadeo frame received, will have the LBS build it up > this week. Am thinking about SRAM Apex (brifters, derailleur, and > 11-32 cassette). Or, possibly, the Apex brifters with SRAM XX > derailleur and 11-36 cassette. > > Cranks will probably be a TA Cyclotourist knock-off from Velo Orange, > with 26-42 chainrings. > > I don't know much about these new SRAM systems or how they would work > for the Roadeo. Any comments, feedback, opinions, criticisms, threats > of bodily injury, or endorsements from the list? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting
on 5/19/10 12:44 AM, Philip Williamson at philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: > Are we "Bunchers?" > "Bunchers." "Buncher." "I'm a buncher." "Hey, fellow bunchers!" "Listers" always makes me think we're out of balance. Which may indeed be the case. But it does make me want to reset the trim tabs. I think the only applicable term I've heard is when there is a gathering of Quickbeams, at which point, we are engaging in an Entmoot. > > I don't think that's going to work for me... can we use one of those > made-up Rivendell model names instead? > You mean... "Hunqaphillics"? "Bombarinos"? "Atlantarians"? "Gauchos" (those who ride Roadeos, obviously...) "Sons of Sams" "Rambouillets coup de tete" "Veni, vidi, Hilson" (clearly, I need to put down the keyboard and get to work...) Obviously, those are kind of model-specific, so as a group/gang/cult/autonomous collective, perhaps we should simply be "Those Who Shall Not Be Named" - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
The Apex and the other SRAM road groups should be compatible with the XX group. The cable pull ratio is the same for the rear derailleurs. The cassette spacing is identical and is the same as Shimano's 10 speed spacing. You can mix and match SRAM 10 speed derailleurs and shifters, but you can't mix them with Shimano. The only Shimano part that is compatible would be the cassette. BTW, if anyone out there is running a SRAM road group and is troubled by the noisy drivetrain, switching to a Shimano Cassette really quiets everything down. Joe > Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 09:20:40 -0700 > Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone? > From: aaron.a.tho...@gmail.com > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com > > I don't know anything about Apex itself, but my understanding of SRAM > gruppos is that the shifters and front and rear derailleurs must all > be SRAM, because they have them optimized for the double tap shifting. > I don't know if mixing an Apex with XX will work. You'd have to ask. > > Although I don't have the SRAM brifters, I have test ridden several > bikes with them and I really like the shifting, profile and feel of > the hoods. If I didn't already have a bunch of Campy Ergo stuff, I'd > consider going SRAM myself. > > The only thing that strikes me odd is your thought about using a crank > with 26-42 chainrings with an 11-32 cassette. I don't know your level > of fitness or how much you weigh, but I would imagine that that's > overkill. Since the Roadeo is not intended to carry loads, all you > have is you and your bike (and maybe a small saddlebag). I would > imagine that the stock SRAM compact crank of 50-34 or 50-36, combined > with an 11-32, is more than sufficient to get you anywhere you want to > go. > > For comparison, I weigh about 155-60, ride completely unloaded (except > for a small saddlebag toolkit), and I'm able to get up even the > steepest grades with a 50-36 and 12-27, although sometimes I wish I > had a 34t inner ring or maybe a 28t big cassette. > > I'd think that the Apex's 50-34 and 11-32 is more than sufficient for > even the steepest climbs. If you don't think you'll ever be riding the > 50t chainring, swap it out for a 48. > > Aaron > > On May 19, 8:26 am, reynoldslugs wrote: > > Beautiful new Roadeo frame received, will have the LBS build it up > > this week. Am thinking about SRAM Apex (brifters, derailleur, and > > 11-32 cassette). Or, possibly, the Apex brifters with SRAM XX > > derailleur and 11-36 cassette. > > > > Cranks will probably be a TA Cyclotourist knock-off from Velo Orange, > > with 26-42 chainrings. > > > > I don't know much about these new SRAM systems or how they would work > > for the Roadeo. Any comments, feedback, opinions, criticisms, threats > > of bodily injury, or endorsements from the list? > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > _ The New Busy is not the too busy. Combine all your e-mail accounts with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multiaccount&ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_4 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
Jim I think some of the compounding confusion comes from the Riv site. There, they claim a 100mm dirt drop stem has an effective horizontal extension of 82mm. I think that should simply read 'extension' with 'horizontal' removed. That's what my 100mm dirt drop stem measures to, and only then does the trig make any sense. Every vendor that sells both the dirt drop and the Technomic call them +35deg and -17deg, respectively. Take a glance at the dirt drop stem installed on the bike and it is obvious that the rise on the bike is >>35 degrees from horizontal. It's about 54 degrees (35 degrees in stem rise plus the complement to the headtube angle which in this case is 19 degrees). So, by my reckoning, the 100mm Dirt Drop stem does in fact have 82mm of extension and ~86.5mm of reach. That I've measured By that same approach, the 80mm Dirt Drop stem has 65mm of extension and ~69.4mm of reach. That I have not measured Using that fact, it turns out that a 80mm dirt drop stem which has 35 degrees of rise in the stem and ~65mm of extension, is within a mm or two of a 7cm Technomic Deluxe in reach. On May 19, 7:54 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/19/10 12:24 AM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > On May 19, 12:36 am, CycloFiend wrote: > >> on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: > > >>> On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend wrote: > > I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this. When they > describe > the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer > than a 6 cm Technomic stem? > > >>> If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension) and a > >>> 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the > >>> same spot--no matter what you do. Additionally, you will never get > >>> the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other. > > >> That's the statement I'm not following. > > > Here's a picture: > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4620513517/ > > > The next picture shows the trigonometry/math. > > Ok. So, I think we were both making the same error, though on different > aspects of the problem. > > In your photo, you are showing the 6.5 _extension_ as a 6.5 _reach_ > > The extension would be at a 90 degree angle from the quill, as shown in the > Habenero diagram, or the alex w. tool that Seth shared. > > I was thinking of the Technomic as having a 6 cm extension, when it actually > had a 6 cm reach. > > Thanks for creating that image. > > - Jim > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com > > "There were messengers who named their bikes, but Chevette never would have > done that, and somehow because she did think about it like it was something > alive." > > William Gibson - "Virtual Light" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
Aaron: thanks for the response, I appreciate the feedback on the shifters. The gearing is a bit overkill, true. But it's appropriate for a Clyde (the cycling community often underestimates the contribution of old shotputters in the peloton). My frequent rides include Death Ride routes, Levi's Granfondo, and Sonoma County roads with 18% grades. I'm fifty and fit - resting heart 42 - - but not light or lithe. Sometimes on the hills I pass guys your size (50 pounds less than me), but not very often. Like once a year. So yes, the gearing is probably overkill - - but I have the cranks laying around my toolbench, so - depending on what other feedback may suggest - I may end up using them. > > The only thing that strikes me odd is your thought about using a crank > with 26-42 chainrings with an 11-32 cassette. I don't know your level > of fitness or how much you weigh, but I would imagine that that's > overkill. Since the Roadeo is not intended to carry loads, all you > have is you and your bike (and maybe a small saddlebag). I would > imagine that the stock SRAM compact crank of 50-34 or 50-36, combined > with an 11-32, is more than sufficient to get you anywhere you want to > go. > > For comparison, I weigh about 155-60, ride completely unloaded (except > for a small saddlebag toolkit), and I'm able to get up even the > steepest grades with a 50-36 and 12-27, although sometimes I wish I > had a 34t inner ring or maybe a 28t big cassette. > text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
Speaking of Paul's centerpulls, my new-to-me Saluki has the polished versions. Haven't ridden it yet, still setting it up, but I noticed this morning the chrome on all of the brake pad fixing post nuts--the 5mm hex domed ones--is flaking off and rusting. Anyone know if those available in stainless, or as separate replacement parts? Rob in Seattle On May 19, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Gino Zahnd wrote: Disclosure: Paul is a good friend of mine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
20 years ago (at 35) I weighed 155-160. At 200 lbs now, it's kinda like loaded touring even with nothin' on the bike. :) My gearing has changed accordingly. Getting back to riding, hope that will reverse. Rob in Seattle On May 19, 2010, at 9:20 AM, Aaron Thomas wrote: For comparison, I weigh about 155-60, ride completely unloaded (except for a small saddlebag toolkit), and I'm able to get up even the steepest grades with a 50-36 and 12-27, although sometimes I wish I had a 34t inner ring or maybe a 28t big cassette. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WTB: Legolas - 58 or so
I know these are rare as hen's teeth, but thought I'd give it a shot. Anyone out there tired of looking at their Legolas or thinking of moving to another frame? Thanks! Brian Park City, UT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: shopsack with drops
I concur. I use 48mm Noodles with brifters and have both the Medium and the Large versions. With the Large, I get a similar experience. It might be a minor hassle but not worth being concerned with. Obviously I have no issues whatsoever with the Medium. In terms of handling and overall feeling, I prefer the Medium hands down. With the large basket and large bag, the bike "feels" it. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
On May 19, 12:26 pm, Joe Bartoe wrote: >The cassette spacing is identical and is the same as Shimano's 10 speed >spacing. >You can mix and match SRAM 10 speed derailleurs and shifters, but >you can't mix >them with Shimano. anyone know if you can use a doubletap shifter with a 9 speed cassette and just set it up to dummy shift? I'm thinking about a SRAM brifter (rear only - would keep front friction d/t shifter), but would like to use the 9spd shimano cassettes i have. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
I used SRAM Rival and Red on my pre-Rivendell days. In fact, when I first built my AHH I just used the Rival group I removed from the Gunnar frame I sold and bought the SRAM bar-end shifters. Compact front 172.5mm cranks (2nd generation) and 12-28 rear cassette. I loved it, but at 275 lbs, getting up the hills was quite challenging. After exploring switching to the SRAM XX for the rear, I decided that for the same $$ or even a bit less, I could just switch to a 9 speed triple and get a much wider versatile range of gears, at the expense of more separation between each gear. For a while I ran the Shimano 9speed rear drivetrain with the SRAM compact double crancks, but then swapped the cranks for the triple that Riv sells. I'm very happy with it. If you are interested in getting my Rival drivetrain with either the brake-shifters or the bar end shifters, send me a separate e-mail. It's almost new and in perfect condition. Regardless of what you end up doing, I'd definitely recommend any of the SRAM versions for your Roadeo with my eyes closed. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
on 5/19/10 9:30 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: > Jim > > I think some of the compounding confusion comes from the Riv site. > There, they claim a 100mm dirt drop stem has an effective horizontal > extension of 82mm. I think that should simply read 'extension' with > 'horizontal' removed. That's what my 100mm dirt drop stem measures > to, and only then does the trig make any sense. Every vendor that > sells both the dirt drop and the Technomic call them +35deg and > -17deg, respectively. Take a glance at the dirt drop stem installed > on the bike and it is obvious that the rise on the bike is >>35 > degrees from horizontal. It's about 54 degrees (35 degrees in stem > rise plus the complement to the headtube angle which in this case is > 19 degrees). > > So, by my reckoning, the 100mm Dirt Drop stem does in fact have 82mm > of extension and ~86.5mm of reach. That I've measured > By that same approach, the 80mm Dirt Drop stem has 65mm of extension > and ~69.4mm of reach. That I have not measured > > Using that fact, it turns out that a 80mm dirt drop stem which has 35 > degrees of rise in the stem and ~65mm of extension, is within a mm or > two of a 7cm Technomic Deluxe in reach. Thanks for that salient and comprehensive explanation. I certainly got it all mucked up interchanging "reach" and "extension". I appreciate the clarification. - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's how: http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines "She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty." -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
I don't think you can, as the cable pull will be incompatible. However, you can use a friction barend shifter with the double compact, which is how I ran my AHH for a short time. Sram double compact front and Shimano 9 speed rear with Shimano barend shifters. I don't recall if Sram's barend shifters can be used in friction mode; I seem to recall that the front is friction, but the rear is indexed only. René On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:18 AM, Patrick in VT wrote: > anyone know if you can use a doubletap shifter with a 9 speed cassette > and just set it up to dummy shift? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting
Rivendellers Rivians RBwers Rivbees LOL!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
On May 19, 1:34 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > I don't think you can, as the cable pull will be incompatible. However, you > can use a friction barend shifter with the double compact, which is how I > ran my AHH for a short time. Sram double compact front and Shimano 9 speed > rear with Shimano barend shifters. I don't recall if Sram's barend shifters > can be used in friction mode; I seem to recall that the front is friction, > but the rear is indexed only. i was wondering if there was a way to rig a SRAM shifter to shift over a 9 speed cassette, then just set the limit screw on the rd at the 9th click. last click would just put a bit of tension on the cable. i pretty sure I can run a 10 spd campy brifter with a shimano 9spd cassette/derailer. maybe i'll try that instead. i do like campy brifters - quick release and you can dump a bunch of gears quickly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
SRAM's 9 speed cassettes and rear derailleurs are not compatible with SRAM's 10 speed cassettes and rear derailleurs as far as I know. It has to do with the amount of cable pull and the separation between the rear cogs. I doubt it's just a matter of adjusting the limit screws since the 9 and 10 speed cassettes fit over the same distance; it's just that the separation and thickness (I believe) of the cogs is different. If you were using 9 speed SRAM MTB components, then you'd have no problem with any 9 speed cassette. René -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Buncher Sighting
Rivendellians? My fleeting glimpse gave me two false impressions: 1. It didn't look like he was wearing a helmet. He was. 2. I thought the bike was a custom. It was a Romulus. So much for my eyewitness testimony. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
For Campy Ergo there are two options ( well maybe 3) 1. 10 speed Ergo shifters pull the same cable as the spacing on 8 speed ShimaNo Cassette and Rear deral. Works great ..I have this on my Tandem. 2. 10 speed Ergo shifters with a DaVinci modified SRAM Mountain X9 rear derailleur and a shimano 9 speed cassette. Dustin has this on his Kirk. 3. 10 speed Ergo shifters will work with 10 speed Shimano or SRAM cassettes as the spacing difference is so small it works fine. ( L Zinn article on Velonews) and yes all of my other bikes are friction. ~Mike~ On May 19, 11:35 am, Rene Sterental wrote: > SRAM's 9 speed cassettes and rear derailleurs are not compatible with SRAM's > 10 speed cassettes and rear derailleurs as far as I know. It has to do with > the amount of cable pull and the separation between the rear cogs. I doubt > it's just a matter of adjusting the limit screws since the 9 and 10 speed > cassettes fit over the same distance; it's just that the separation and > thickness (I believe) of the cogs is different. > > If you were using 9 speed SRAM MTB components, then you'd have no problem > with any 9 speed cassette. > > René > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Black 650b Synergy rims
To all, While Rich and I are having coffee this morning, he mentioned he has 5 black 650b rim from Velocity. 3 of them are rear O/C and 2 are regular rims. In case you want some black rims for you bike, now is the time. Contact Rich at Rivendell for more details. Disclaimer: Rich is a friend of the family, live close by and also the Lau household official wheel builder. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
On May 19, 3:16 pm, Michael_S wrote: > For Campy Ergo there are two options ( well maybe 3) > > 1. 10 speed Ergo shifters pull the same cable as the spacing on 8 > speed ShimaNo Cassette and Rear deral. do you know if one can do 9 spd with the "alternate" shimano rech mech cable routing? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
yes, if you use Hubbub routing. Here is the link to Shimergo. I have not tried it. http://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=3946 ~Mike~ On May 19, 1:05 pm, Patrick in VT wrote: > On May 19, 3:16 pm, Michael_S wrote: > > > For Campy Ergo there are two options ( well maybe 3) > > > 1. 10 speed Ergo shifters pull the same cable as the spacing on 8 > > speed ShimaNo Cassette and Rear deral. > > do you know if one can do 9 spd with the "alternate" shimano rech mech > cable routing? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
though I'm late to the party...here is my input ... I would pick the Atlantis hands down over the Bombadill. I just like the flatter top tube and classic lines. Without disc brakes on the Bomba, I think is not as usable off road as the construction and design intent would dictate. To me it's just a beefier Atlantis for those "larger" ( taller and wider) riders. Down the road I intend to upgrade from my Hillborne to an Atlantis, most likely in custom color. On May 19, 10:35 am, CycloFiend wrote: > on 5/19/10 9:30 AM, William at tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > Jim > > > I think some of the compounding confusion comes from the Riv site. > > There, they claim a 100mm dirt drop stem has an effective horizontal > > extension of 82mm. I think that should simply read 'extension' with > > 'horizontal' removed. That's what my 100mm dirt drop stem measures > > to, and only then does the trig make any sense. Every vendor that > > sells both the dirt drop and the Technomic call them +35deg and > > -17deg, respectively. Take a glance at the dirt drop stem installed > > on the bike and it is obvious that the rise on the bike is >>35 > > degrees from horizontal. It's about 54 degrees (35 degrees in stem > > rise plus the complement to the headtube angle which in this case is > > 19 degrees). > > > So, by my reckoning, the 100mm Dirt Drop stem does in fact have 82mm > > of extension and ~86.5mm of reach. That I've measured > > By that same approach, the 80mm Dirt Drop stem has 65mm of extension > > and ~69.4mm of reach. That I have not measured > > > Using that fact, it turns out that a 80mm dirt drop stem which has 35 > > degrees of rise in the stem and ~65mm of extension, is within a mm or > > two of a 7cm Technomic Deluxe in reach. > > Thanks for that salient and comprehensive explanation. > > I certainly got it all mucked up interchanging "reach" and "extension". I > appreciate the clarification. > > - J > > -- > Jim Edgar > cyclofi...@earthlink.net > > Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com > Current Classics - Cross Bikes > Singlespeed - Working Bikes > > The Gallery needs your photos! Send 'em in - Here's > how:http://www.cyclofiend.com/guidelines > > "She edged in to get a better look at the bike, how it was made, the > intricacy of its brakes and shifters pulling her straight in. Beauty." > -- William Gibson, "Virtual Light" > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Roadeo Build Question - SRAM Apex, anyone?
On May 19, 4:13 pm, Michael_S wrote: > yes, if you use Hubbub routing. Here is the link to Shimergo. I have > not tried it. http://www.ctc.org.uk/desktopdefault.aspx?tabid=3946 neat. thanks for that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WTB: Legolas - 58 or so
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:04 AM, rinjin wrote: > > I know these are rare as hen's teeth, but thought I'd give it a shot. > Anyone out there tired of looking at their Legolas or thinking of > moving to another frame? > > Thanks! > Just curious -- does/will Rivendell still make this bike? I know there are none up there now, but has Grant mentioned doing more runs of these in some email/post/comment anywhere? Or has the Legolas gone the way of the Quickbeam, Romulous, All-Rounder, Ramboullet, Redwood, etc, never to be revived again? The Legolas is the only Rivendell bike I could see purchasing someday. Well, unless they brought back the original standard-gauge tubing All-Rounder. -- John Speare Spokane, WA USA http://cyclingspokane.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the more obvious S&S couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did the builder meet your expectations? His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. ~Mike~ On May 17, 10:02 am, "Frederick, Steve" wrote: > Blindrobert wrote, in part: > ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so > > I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie and > found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just used > the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the rear > too and that works well enough for wheel removal... > > Steve > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. Those aren't a PAUL part, just part of the brake pad. http://www.koolstop.com/brakes/index.php On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Rob Harrison wrote: > Speaking of Paul's centerpulls, my new-to-me Saluki has the polished > versions. Haven't ridden it yet, still setting it up, but I noticed this > morning the chrome on all of the brake pad fixing post nuts--the 5mm hex > domed ones--is flaking off and rusting. Anyone know if those available in > stainless, or as separate replacement parts? > > Rob in Seattle > > On May 19, 2010, at 8:24 AM, Gino Zahnd wrote: > >> Disclosure: Paul is a good friend of mine. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
I'll be darned. That's clever. I haven't owned a bike with centerpull brakes in the modern era. (Obviously.) Last centerpulls I had were Weinmanns, in 1977. :) Thanks Gino! Rob in Seattle On May 19, 2010, at 3:39 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. Those aren't a PAUL part, just part of the brake pad. http://www.koolstop.com/brakes/index.php -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell/Nitto "Big Back Rack" $140
SOLD On May 19, 6:56 am, Blindrobert wrote: > Used for two tours, plating is completely intact, no dents or bends, > comes with the adjusting hardware. $140 delivered in the lower 48. I > take good care of my stuff and this rack is in fantastic condition. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which is like being in a parade every time I ride it. http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is very straightforward and I think he's a really conscientious builder and decent man, though newer than some of the big names out there in the world of custom bikes. I have no complaints about the workmanship at all, and he was on schedule for the delivery of the bike (trust me, that's rare in the world of custom bikes). My expectations were met, there were a few little things that weren't exactly like I wanted - for instance the old style rubber slap guard I asked for was an invented system instead of the (formerly) standard pin for a pre-made rubber band. I have to make a slap guard out of a strip of inner tube or other rubber when I need one - it's not hard, just not what I expected and he wasn't familiar with the detail for the other system. No major complaints at all, and like I said, it's my favorite bike. My advice to anyone getting a custom frame is to think hard about what you want, don't sign off on production until you feel good about every detail, including the braze ons...then DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING after the order is signed off. It just leads to confusion and second guessing yourself...and when you start changing things, it gets expensive and mistakes get made. Roberto On May 19, 5:44 pm, Michael_S wrote: > just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist > Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike > and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the > more obvious S&S couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did > the builder meet your expectations? > His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. > > ~Mike~ > > On May 17, 10:02 am, "Frederick, Steve" > wrote: > > > Blindrobert wrote, in part: > > ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so > > > I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie > > and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I just > > used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders on the > > rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... > > > Steve > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto Bullmoose Bar
Thought I had a few leads but nothing yet so I am still looking. If anyone is interested here is a photo of the new larger size Bullmoose bars that Rivendell currently has. Apparently while it has a 200mm reach vs the current 150mm because of the geometry the difference is not that great. I unfortunately do not need ANY extra reach so the older ones will work better for me. Andrew has some more info on the new ones I think. http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/ii31/Johnny_Alien/Bull_Moose_long_web.jpg?t=1274313162 Anyway...yeah still looking. On May 17, 8:06 pm, andrew hill wrote: > well, i've got the "short" ones on my Sam and Bomba.. i'd jump at the option > to put a "long" raw clearcoat on the Bomba, and then sell you the "short" raw > clearcoat.. if one becomes available, ill do that :) > > -a > > On May 17, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: > > > > > > > They are bringing out a second one with a longer reach. The first one > > was 150 and the new one is 200. Both will be available but at the > > moment they only got the 200 in. They are finishing them so they > > won't be on the site for a few more weeks. > > > Maybe someone that has a set now that thinks they could use the longer > > reach would want to sell me theirs so they could get the new size??? > > > :) > > > On May 17, 6:54 pm, andrew hill wrote: > >> i wasn't aware there were two sizes..? > >> aren't the smaller just cut down larger? :) > > >> -a > > >> On May 17, 2010, at 3:50 PM, Johnny Alien wrote: > > >>> Only largeBullmoosebars in stock now and I need the 150 reach. Also > >>> they are no longer doing the clear powdercoating. > > >>> Thusly I am still on the prowl as it will be awhile until Riv gets > >>> them and I could use them now. I will trade you cold hard cash for a > >>> set. > > >>> On May 14, 7:33 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > I thought I would move this up as I didn't realize that Rivendell was > out of them and of course there is nowhere else to get them. Thusly > used is my only method right now and there is no date as to when > Rivendell is getting them back. > > Anyone want to help me out and make some cash in the process? :) > > On May 13, 6:42 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > > Yeah that is what I was looking at. If there were only 50 made that > > may explain it. I may just decide to pick up a new one then. I > > definitely don't want one with a longer extension/reach. > > > On May 13, 6:17 pm, "Jim M." wrote: > > >> If you're talking about the latest Riv/Nittobullmoose, they only made > >> 50 of them in the first run, so there aren't a lot available to be re- > >> sold. I love mine and it's not for sale. I know they are working on a > >> version with a longer extension, but I don't know when they'll have > >> some more in stock. > > >> jim m > >> wc ca > > >> On May 13, 2:55 pm, Johnny Alien wrote: > > >>> I think I definitely want to go with the Nitto style. Seems like > >>> there are always other bars for sale used but these don't pop up alot. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > >> To u
[RBW] Re: the "fire trails" of the upper midwest
I didn't mean to start a discussion of the semantics of unpaved rural road terminology, but I did learn a few things about the western fire roads. So thanks. The Almanzo race included just about every type of bike. I rode to the event with a guy on a Long Haul Trucker and another guy on a full- suspension carbon fiber MTB. On the race course I saw Pugsleys, track bikes, carbon road bikes, a brakeless fixed gear MTB, tandems. Among my companions/friends, there was an Atlantis, a Hillborne, a Romulus, a Bleriot, and perhaps one or two other Rivs I'm forgetting at the moment. Also a fair number of Salsa Fargos and Rawlands, both of which are neat bikes, IMO. I'm not terribly fast, but I am persistent and rolled in after 9 hrs and 21 minutes on the course. The winner was a tandem that completed the extremely hilly gravel century in 5 hrs and 15 min. I rolled my race into a 3-day 330-mile adventure. About 200 of those miles were on gravel roads. While my custom Curt Goodrich all-rounder is not a Rivendell, it certainly has a strong Rivendell influence. Notably, the 26x2.0 Kojaks fit with room to spare under the fenders. The big, soft, smooth tires gave me lots of confidence in the gravel bluffs where skinnier tires were skidding off into the ditch. On May 15, 11:55 pm, cyclotourist wrote: > "Fire roads" are definitely not flat. Conditions are usually pretty good. > Rocky and rutted in some places, no gravel. There might be jeep-track > heading out from them. If you ever question what a Rivendell is built for, > look no further. > > BTW, here's a cool gravel-road race promo for the > mid-west:http://vimeo.com/11700688 > > Nicely put together video (if not a touch silly). > > > > On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Pete Olson wrote: > > Hi Jim. I’ve had a chance to ride my Rawland a little on trail and > > mixed paved/gravel roads and the new, wide Noodle bar you guys added > > works well. I am struck the gravel roads I ride in northwestern > > Wisconsin are heterogeneous as far as origins, land ownership and > > responsibility for maintenance. Some of the roads started as wagon > > roads from the logging era (tote roads), logging railroads (a tip-off > > is now having “grade” in its name), farm roads or forest roads put in > > for multi-uses like logging, lake home, cabin and recreational access, > > and fire control. Besides unpaved farm roads, I ride on roads in > > county forests, state forests, a national forest, and privately owned > > commercial forest land. I took a trip last summer to Keweenaw County > > in U.P. Michigan and I think most of the forest land was in private > > land holdings that go back to the time of mining exploration. The > > biggest change I see with most of these roads over the last twenty > > years has been general “improvement” in the development sense which > > means widening, straightening, adding gravel and more grading. > > Unfortunately it is getting harder to find narrow, twisty roads, that > > tunnel through the trees. Near here, the Chippewa County Forest > > trails probably come closest to western style fire trails; narrow, in > > steep glacial moraine, not overly graded, and not plowed in the > > winter. According to someone I know who lives in the Blue Hills of > > western Rusk County, the motivation of the local township board for > > road widening is fear of liability if a driver runs off a road and > > hits a tree. Bill- I did some riding on the CAMBA system around > > Hayward and Seeley last fall (Boedecker and Janet Rd and Phipps Fire > > Lane) and Phipps Ln in particular looked wider and more built up than > > it was in the 80’s and 90’s. -Pete > > > On May 14, 3:32 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery > > wrote: > > > I've been reading about these "fire trails" in Grant's writings for > > > years. As far as I know, we don't have fire trails in Minnesota, but > > > we have thousands of miles of rural gravel roads, and races/rides on > > > these gravel roads have exploded in popularity. This weekend I, along > > > with several hundred others, will be riding the Almanzo 100, which is > > > a free-for-all gravel century. Technically it's a race, but I > > > seriously doubt that I'm in contention of finishing much better than > > > middle-of-the-pack. > > > > It's arguable that Rivendell has played a role (indirectly) in > > > popularizing this kind of event with Grant's advocacy of tire > > > clearance and riding "road bikes" on unpaved surfaces. I'll be riding > > > my Atlantis-inspired Goodrich, and I expect to see lots of Rivendells. > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > . > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
Yes I agree, my first custom (now sold) was a learning experience. Got everything right but rear seat stay length. My 2nd is in the garage being built. I really like the Diffusible Tourist Joshua built. I would like to get one maybe this fall. Here is a pic from his Flickr site http://www.flickr.com/photos/jmuirfromsc/3996701853/ ~Mike~ On May 19, 4:50 pm, Blindrobert wrote: > Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most > comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which > is like being in a parade every time I ride it. > > http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html > > The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is very straightforward and I > think he's a really conscientious builder and decent man, though newer > than some of the big names out there in the world of custom bikes. I > have no complaints about the workmanship at all, and he was on > schedule for the delivery of the bike (trust me, that's rare in the > world of custom bikes). My expectations were met, there were a few > little things that weren't exactly like I wanted - for instance the > old style rubber slap guard I asked for was an invented system instead > of the (formerly) standard pin for a pre-made rubber band. I have to > make a slap guard out of a strip of inner tube or other rubber when I > need one - it's not hard, just not what I expected and he wasn't > familiar with the detail for the other system. No major complaints at > all, and like I said, it's my favorite bike. > > My advice to anyone getting a custom frame is to think hard about what > you want, don't sign off on production until you feel good about every > detail, including the braze ons...then DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING after the > order is signed off. It just leads to confusion and second guessing > yourself...and when you start changing things, it gets expensive and > mistakes get made. > > Roberto > > On May 19, 5:44 pm, Michael_S wrote: > > > > > > > just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist > > Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike > > and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the > > more obvious S&S couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did > > the builder meet your expectations? > > His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. > > > ~Mike~ > > > On May 17, 10:02 am, "Frederick, Steve" > > wrote: > > > > Blindrobert wrote, in part: > > > ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so > > > > I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie > > > and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I > > > just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders > > > on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: the "fire trails" of the upper midwest
On 5/15/10, cyclotourist wrote: > BTW, here's a cool gravel-road race promo for the mid-west: > http://vimeo.com/11700688 > > Nicely put together video (if not a touch silly). The American Gravel Road Cycling Institute videos are nice (f not a touch silly), as well...: http://www.youtube.com/user/Countbykula#p/u/5/c5oPd8WYOIE -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] WAS: brake questions NOW: OT Silliness
From: Gino Zahnd wrote: Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. === Boy howdy, I wish it were that easy. -- Jon ³Feeling every bit of 51 years old today² Grant, in Austin, Texas -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Bleriot 55 w/Saluki Fork
Last week I had posted information about a 55cm Bleriot frame, Saluki Fork, Rivendell wheels and a Nitto stem that I am offering for sale. I had several requests for pictures, but I had no digital pictures to send, so I removed the post until pictures were available. Well, the bike pictures are now available on request. I actually purchased this frame, fork, and wheels directly from Rivendell last September. The bike was not assembled until November, and has been only taken out for a ride of about five miles. The unpainted Saluki fork was painted to match the frame color. These items are in like new condition (As you can see in a picture, the plastic protective covering is still partially on the Bleriot head badge, and the tires have zero wear). Particulars are: 55 cm Bleriot Frame, 54 cm Saluki Fork, Rivendell Budget 650b wheels (135/36 Deore, Twinhollow), Schwalbe Marathon 650*40b tires, and Nitto Technomic 225 q, 9cm stem. I'm asking $850.00 for these items. Although I prefer to sell these items locally, I will ship at the purchasers expense. E-mail with any questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] WAS: brake questions NOW: OT Silliness
FWIW, Dave Zabriskie is leading the ATOC. On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Jon Grant wrote: > From: Gino Zahnd wrote: > > Buy new brake pads, and you get new nuts. > > === > > Boy howdy, I wish it were that easy. > > -- > Jon ³Feeling every bit of 51 years old today² Grant, in > Austin, Texas > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA "Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym." ~Bill Nye, scientist guy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Like Riding a Bicycle
At the risk of earning an off-topic reprimand, this photo spread on the bicycle for National Bike to Work Week could be of general interest to the list: http://todayspictures.slate.com/20100518 Many of the photos are really nice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Like Riding a Bicycle
The photography is magnificent! The bikes are steel... The images are made with silver... No reprimand for you! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cork, Tape, and Shellac
I've only talked to Josh Muir of Frances for a few minutes a couple of times, but I really respect him, and his bikes hit the spot. This may strike other people differently than it does me, but I love that his bikes have had the only Nashbar brakes I've ever seen at a bike show. They also looked, and I believe it may be true, that they were borrowed back from owners who actually rode them. If something horrible happened and I had to replace my bikes (Quickbeam, Ross low trail touring bike and Bontrager hardtail) with a single bike (and magically had the money), it would be with a Frances very similar to Blind Robert's (without the jacked up fender). Or a Matt Chester. Without the magic money, it would probably be a Sam Hillborne. Failing that, I'd just walk... Philip On May 19, 4:50 pm, Blindrobert wrote: > Of all my custom bikes, it's my favorite! And it get's the most > comment/stares of any bike I own except, perhaps my cargo bike, which > is like being in a parade every time I ride it. > > http://www.bikecult.com/works/archive/09bicycles/bolognacargoRC2.html > > The interaction with Josh (at Frances) is very straightforward and I > think he's a really conscientious builder and decent man, though newer > than some of the big names out there in the world of custom bikes. I > have no complaints about the workmanship at all, and he was on > schedule for the delivery of the bike (trust me, that's rare in the > world of custom bikes). My expectations were met, there were a few > little things that weren't exactly like I wanted - for instance the > old style rubber slap guard I asked for was an invented system instead > of the (formerly) standard pin for a pre-made rubber band. I have to > make a slap guard out of a strip of inner tube or other rubber when I > need one - it's not hard, just not what I expected and he wasn't > familiar with the detail for the other system. No major complaints at > all, and like I said, it's my favorite bike. > > My advice to anyone getting a custom frame is to think hard about what > you want, don't sign off on production until you feel good about every > detail, including the braze ons...then DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING after the > order is signed off. It just leads to confusion and second guessing > yourself...and when you start changing things, it gets expensive and > mistakes get made. > > Roberto > > On May 19, 5:44 pm, Michael_S wrote: > > > > > just saw this post. I have been looking at the Frances Tourist > > Diffusible model. The one bike I would like to have is a travel bike > > and the Ritchey Break away system seems very innocuous compared to the > > more obvious S&S couplers. Are you pleased with the workmanship? did > > the builder meet your expectations? > > His bikes all look very well thought out and constructed. > > > ~Mike~ > > > On May 17, 10:02 am, "Frederick, Steve" > > wrote: > > > > Blindrobert wrote, in part: > > > ...the fender was not effective once I got up over 14mph or so > > > > I similarly cropped the rear fender on my Rawland Olaf singlespeed/fixie > > > and found it similarly ineffective. Since I was using SKS fenders, I > > > just used the quick release attachments that comes with SKS front fenders > > > on the rear too and that works well enough for wheel removal... > > > > Steve > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
