[RBW] Re: Rough Riders Rally: photos, roster, awards winners, and more
On Jul 26, 2:27 pm, XO-1.org Rough Riders adventureco...@gmail.com wrote: Sadly and surprisingly, only one Rivendell was in attendance. I dunno, doesn't look very sad to me ;^) All hail the Bleriot! http://www.adventurecorps.com/rrr/2010/show02/pages/DSC04664.html http://www.adventurecorps.com/rrr/2010/show02/pages/DSC04665.html http://www.adventurecorps.com/rrr/2010/show04/pages/_7249639.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices
I've had good success with Aztecs, toed in properly. From: Garth garth...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 5:04:59 PM Subject: [RBW] Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices Greetings everyone .. I'm in search of some smooth post cantilever pads, or even new brakes . that don't squeal and work at least good in if wet. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices
I'm using Tektro CR720s with both Kool Stop Mountain and Thinline pads. The Mountain pad is much better for these brakes. In the future, I will only use Thinlines with v-brakes. I believe the Yokozuna pads have the same compound as Kool Stop. How about Avid, Jagwire and Ritchey, all good pads or so I am told and popular with the Cyclocross folks. I was not crazy about the IRD Cafam brakes. If your canti studs are not the correct length, or even a hair too short, the bolts bind the arms as you tighten them down. I had no success with the IRDs though they seemed very nice. If you are mounting them on a Rivendell frame, might want to give them a call to check their experience with the IRDs. On Jul 27, 6:05 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have also had good success with Aztecsbut then I've had good success with Kool Stop Salmons too Angus On Jul 27, 4:04 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I've had good success with Aztecs, toed in properly. From: Garth garth...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 5:04:59 PM Subject: [RBW] Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices Greetings everyone .. I'm in search of some smooth post cantilever pads, or even new brakes . that don't squeal and work at least good in if wet.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices
One more note: If you have only tried smooth-post brakes and pads, definitely try the CR720s or the Cafams. With threaded-post pads, the adjustment is completely and causes of squealing are completely different and you might find that Kool Stop pads work better than all others. Just a through. On Jul 27, 9:44 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using Tektro CR720s with both Kool Stop Mountain and Thinline pads. The Mountain pad is much better for these brakes. In the future, I will only use Thinlines with v-brakes. I believe the Yokozuna pads have the same compound as Kool Stop. How about Avid, Jagwire and Ritchey, all good pads or so I am told and popular with the Cyclocross folks. I was not crazy about the IRD Cafam brakes. If your canti studs are not the correct length, or even a hair too short, the bolts bind the arms as you tighten them down. I had no success with the IRDs though they seemed very nice. If you are mounting them on a Rivendell frame, might want to give them a call to check their experience with the IRDs. On Jul 27, 6:05 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have also had good success with Aztecsbut then I've had good success with Kool Stop Salmons too Angus On Jul 27, 4:04 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I've had good success with Aztecs, toed in properly. From: Garth garth...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 5:04:59 PM Subject: [RBW] Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices Greetings everyone .. I'm in search of some smooth post cantilever pads, or even new brakes . that don't squeal and work at least good in if wet.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices
Have had good luck with the Yokozuna pads. Both my Sam Hillborne and my wife's bike have them right now. I want to say they are different than Kool Stop as these are supposedly the old Mathauser compound. Then again Jim Thill at Hiawatha Cyclery has had good luck with stock Tektro pads. Might want to try those first and see if they work on your setup. Cheap enough. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 27, 8:46 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: One more note: If you have only tried smooth-post brakes and pads, definitely try the CR720s or the Cafams. With threaded-post pads, the adjustment is completely and causes of squealing are completely different and you might find that Kool Stop pads work better than all others. Just a through. On Jul 27, 9:44 am, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using Tektro CR720s with both Kool Stop Mountain and Thinline pads. The Mountain pad is much better for these brakes. In the future, I will only use Thinlines with v-brakes. I believe the Yokozuna pads have the same compound as Kool Stop. How about Avid, Jagwire and Ritchey, all good pads or so I am told and popular with the Cyclocross folks. I was not crazy about the IRD Cafam brakes. If your canti studs are not the correct length, or even a hair too short, the bolts bind the arms as you tighten them down. I had no success with the IRDs though they seemed very nice. If you are mounting them on a Rivendell frame, might want to give them a call to check their experience with the IRDs. On Jul 27, 6:05 am, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I have also had good success with Aztecsbut then I've had good success with Kool Stop Salmons too Angus On Jul 27, 4:04 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I've had good success with Aztecs, toed in properly. From: Garth garth...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Mon, July 26, 2010 5:04:59 PM Subject: [RBW] Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices Greetings everyone .. I'm in search of some smooth post cantilever pads, or even new brakes . that don't squeal and work at least good in if wet.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe Tweed Bags
Both of the bags are sold. Thanks, all! On Jul 26, 9:45 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: The buyer backed out, so the Country Bag is still available. Thanks, Alan On Jul 26, 7:55 am, EcoVelo ecoveloi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I have a pair of hard to find Nigel Smythe tweed bags for sale. These are a few years old, but in very good condition, never used in the rain, etc. Nigel Smythe Country Bag, Tweed: If I remember correctly, these sold new for around $200. Asking $125 + actual shipping Nigel Smythe Bar Tube, Tweed: Again, not sure on the original price, but asking $60 + actual shipping Photos here: http://www.ecovelo.info/images/nigel-smythe-countrybag.jpghttp://www Please contact me at the following e-mail address: a...@ecovelo.info Thanks! Alan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Replacement Cantilever Pad Choices
Thanks for the tip about the Cafams Ginz. The front and rear studs on the Bombadil have slightly different depths, I ran into the same binding problem with one set of my vintage Shimano cantlievers, rendering them useless. I need to follow the advice I always give other people .. the only way to know, is to try it yourself. I'll call Riv and ask them about the Cafams and CR720 on the Bombadil and the differing depth of canti studs. The CR720 is now sold in Polished Silver BTW. No one online has any photos though. I'll probably get some VO pads and holders to try too. I like that they are road sized pads, so they won't hit the fork blades like the mtb ones do. I found a pair of Aztec pads in my toolbox to try. I'll get them wet and see how they work. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Here are some geometry comparisons of small touring bikes (Riv Atlantis, Surly LHT, Soma Saga).ETT = Effective Top Tube, SO = standover in mm, STA = seat tube angle. Make-and-size ETT SO STA Atlantis-47cm 520 712 72.5 LHT-46cm515 724 74.5 LHT-42cm505 703 75 Saga-47cm 517 714 74.5 Saga-44cm 502 701 75 In this chart, note the difference in the seat tube angle (STA) on the Atlantis. To get the same saddle position relative to the pedals, you'd have to push the saddle back on the Surly and Soma bikes. Every degree of STA is worth a little over 10 mm of saddle position in a bike of this size (use your high school trig -- exact calculation depends on seat height). The correction is about 20 mm for a 74.5 degree STA and 25 mm for a 75 degree STA. So the equivalent ETT for the 46 cm LHT would be about 535 mm, and for the 42 cm LHT it would be 530. For the Soma Saga 47 cm the equivalent ETT would be 537, and for the 44 cm Saga it would be 527. Bottom line: the Atlantis' stated ETT measurement is the longest of the bunch, but because of the shallower seat tube angle, it has the shortest reach. Handlebar height and head tube angle also affect reach. This issue is addressed in more generality and detail here: http://www.rivbike.com/article/bicycle_making/the_top_tube_ruse Lisa PS: If the OP's friend's PBH is 670 mm, she won't be able to stand over any of these bikes. She may need a mixte, or a bike with 24 wheels. On Jul 27, 1:35 am, Ian Dickson iandicks...@gmail.com wrote: The bike is tiny, but with the small wheels and level top tube it looks normal and nicely proportioned. A lot of small frames look like they've been squashed. I haven't looked at the geometry, but I would guess that the 46cm LHT is similar to a 47cm Atlantis, which would be nicer if your friend is willing to spend the money. My wife is very happy with the Surly, though. They are nice bikes. Ian On Jul 26, 8:43 pm, Ken Mattina ken.matt...@gmail.com wrote: The soma buena vista comes in a 42cm size. The salsa vaya comes in a 50cm although according to the geometry chart, the seat tube measures 45cm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
I would try to find a shop with a 42cm Surly Long Haul Trucker (LHT). If it is a good fit, she could probably cannibalize her Gary Fisher and end up with a new bike in the $400 range. B/B/S (beg/borrow/ steal) any parts that she is missing. I have had good luck with the i need this part posts. Cheers! cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wanted: very small Rivish/bobish bike (42-45cm seat-tube)
Earl - If you go with 24 tires like the Red-Line then here's a bobish alternative: http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lgb/bik/1863030284.html Tire selection is probably abysmal in 24. I'd try to stay with 26 if you can. Phil B On Jul 26, 7:53 pm, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: My friend has been riding a Fisher mountain bike for years (a 13) but now wants a faster/more versatile bike for mixed and road riding and commuting. Pretty much the only stock bikes that fit her are Terrys (her PBH is 67cm), and she isn't quite ready to drop $3000. Does anyone have a very small diamond-framed or small mixte-framed (up to 48cm?) bike sitting around looking for a rider? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. I'm in for sure! I'd like to try to build my own frame eventually, and it'll be really interesting to have Grant's take on the design process, especially since whatever i end up building will no doubt have a hefty dose of Riv influence. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Tweed Big Loafer w/rain cover
The bag and cover have been sold. Steve On Jul 26, 9:39 pm, stevew st...@stevewimberg.com wrote: I am selling my tweed Big Loafer. It is in used good condition. It has seem a little rain, but still looks nice. There is some discoloration on the little D rings on the top, the snaps, and on the leather straps that go under the bag. Inside is clean. Here is a URL for pix: http://picasaweb.google.com/swimberg/BigLoafer?authkey=Gv1sRgCMnIv46T... I also have the large rain cover that fits over it. How does $95 for the bag and cover, including USPS Priority shipping sound? Steve Wimberg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
I'm in. I want to document my bikes and reconstruct bikes from my past. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Bill Connell bconn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 1:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. I'm in for sure! I'd like to try to build my own frame eventually, and it'll be really interesting to have Grant's take on the design process, especially since whatever i end up building will no doubt have a hefty dose of Riv influence. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Interesting tiny upcycled panniers found, cheap!
http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=443 I have no affiliation with this guy. He apparently got his hands on some boxish military surplus bags, and offers them modified to be panniers. They are tiny (maybe not quite big enough for an 8.5 x 11 item), but he offers it as a pannier, a shoulderbag, a saddlebag, and a handlebar bag. Cheap at $42 each (shipping included) (or only $30 if he doesn't do any modifications to the base bag). Riv content: he correctly uses the term 'beausage'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Interesting tiny upcycled panniers found, cheap!
This is Jeff Potter, Michigan cyclist and outdoorsman. He's been active on several lists that have high overlap with this one. On Tuesday, July 27, 2010, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=443 I have no affiliation with this guy. He apparently got his hands on some boxish military surplus bags, and offers them modified to be panniers. They are tiny (maybe not quite big enough for an 8.5 x 11 item), but he offers it as a pannier, a shoulderbag, a saddlebag, and a handlebar bag. Cheap at $42 each (shipping included) (or only $30 if he doesn't do any modifications to the base bag). Riv content: he correctly uses the term 'beausage'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Ken Freeman Ann Arbor, MI USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
That is cool! Modifying Ti is a bit above my pay grade, tho. They say the make it out of scrap, so I'm guessing small runs. I'll ask them if they'll do one with a 15 mm open end. dougP On Jul 26, 7:54 pm, Horace max...@sdf.lonestar.org wrote: And it should be made of titanium. http://www.paragonmachineworks.com/storename/paragonmachineworks/dept... Okay, not a pedal wrench, but it could be modified. On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 7:46 PM, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote: What this world needs is a 15 mm pedal wrench on one end with a bottle opener on the other. When was the last time you found a 9/16 spindle? I have a nice collection of cheap cork screws, gathered on various tours. Can you believe 6 wine drinking cyclists NO ONE thought to bring one? Guess we're not the wine snobs we make out to be. dougP On Jul 26, 5:59 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: No corkscrew required.http://www.stx.ox.ac.uk/system/files/images/Knob+Creek.JPG On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 4:42 PM, MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com wrote: Jeez, do all of you travel without a corkscrew! I did that once and found myself in the Maine woods trying to open a cabernet with a screw driver. I swore never again. Now I always include a swiss army knife in my tool kit. There's only so much civilization I leave behind when I tour. michael On Jul 26, 7:07 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Who you calling hypercracker? Bring a hypercracker. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/stein-mini-lock/ On Jul 26, 3:54 pm, cm chrispmur...@hotmail.com wrote: I'd bring a leatherman, a bike tool, some chain lube, patch kit, 3 spare tubes, chain pin, folding tire, and a GOOD bike pump that has a gauge. To me that would be a dream tool/ repair kit. Get really comfortable with the patch kit and it will save you some $$$ and pump your tires up every morning. I hope you are going North to South!!! Cheers, cm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscrib...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA Bicycling is a big part of the future. It has to be. There is something wrong with a society that drives a car to workout in a gym. ~Bill Nye, scientist guy- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seat Sgueaks!
The B17 I got just over a year ago is the first Brooks saddle I've ever had. I encountered the tedious 'squeak' (creak) for many months, applying various 'remedies' (Obenauf's on the underside of the leather, getting some between the rear plate and leather, tightening and loosening the tension bolt, lube the rails where they're clamped by the seat post), all of which gave some temporary relief, but the creak would eventually come back. Somehow I'd forgotten the old rule of thumb about lubing up the areas where metal contacts metal (aside form the rails), especially where threaded (you know, like your crank bolts and pedals and bearing cups and even your quill in the fork tube). I took some of Phil's Tenacious oil, took my saddle off for ease of access, and made sure to douse the tension bolt threads, the plate it threads into, and especially where that plate (the one the tension bolt goes through, and this was my 'aha!' moment) wraps around the front loop of the seat rails. This is a pivot point where metal rubs metal, and if your saddle is really tight, it rubs hard. If it's tighter than that (it shouldn't be!) it won't move and thus won't rub and thus will not squ(c)reak until the leather stretches and allows for movement and the squ(c)reak comes back (and then many of us who do not know better will tighten it again (this includes me) until it goes away and comes back again and again and again luckily I only did this a few times and did not ruin my saddle). I chose the tenacious oil over a heavier grease so it could penetrate better. Chain oil would penetrate, but might not be viscous enough to have a lasting effect. If you're a feather-weight, you might get a nano-meter of movement as you mount or dismount, or if you aggressively pedal-bounce in your seat. We heavier riders will get a bit more movement (and volume) than that. My bike is now stealthy silent, but for the purr of the chain and the coasting click of the freewheel. I hope this helps. -Peter On Jul 26, 5:22 pm, thirty-six thirty-...@live.co.uk wrote: On 26 July, 16:18, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Not mine, the Riv's. I'm using a Brooks Swift and it is making noise. I'll characterize it as a leathery squeak. I've lubricated and checked the fasteners and think this is a leather squeak not a rail to seat post or seat post to frame squeak. Has anyone here encountered such a problem? Yes. Any experience/tips on how to cure saddle squeak? Look for a loose rivet and close it up. Oil the leather after releasing some tension. At least with the Wrights saddles the leather would likely mishape because it doesn't always draw in the oil evenly. So with the thicker Brooks I also am careful to detension before applying oil. Use castor oil if you don't have the Brooks dressing. If the squeak still exists it's more likely the saddle clamp and rail interface than the nose adjuster of the saddle. Sometimes a bit of paper around the saddle rail is needed to prevent the return of the squeak. For the adjuster, use a solid lubricant such as molybdenum disulphide for a long term cure. I'm particularly concerned as the Swift I used on Sierra-to-the-Sea developed a bent tensioner bolt and went kaput. Wow! It's a bummer as Swifts work great for me. I'm becoming skeptical about their durability not to mention their acoustic qualities. -JImD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Interesting tiny upcycled panniers found, cheap!
On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:54 PM, William wrote: http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=443 I have no affiliation with this guy. He apparently got his hands on some boxish military surplus bags, and offers them modified to be panniers. They are tiny (maybe not quite big enough for an 8.5 x 11 item), but he offers it as a pannier, a shoulderbag, a saddlebag, and a handlebar bag. Cheap at $42 each (shipping included) (or only $30 if he doesn't do any modifications to the base bag). Riv content: he correctly uses the term 'beausage'. Ah, this is Jeff Potter's web site. Jeff knows his way around Rivendellia and is an ardent DIY'er. In some ways he makes Grant seem pretty mainstream. Jeff also offers some interesting bike books including Victor Vincente of America's epic poem to dirt bike riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting tiny upcycled panniers found, cheap!
Seems like a cool guy. I searched on ETSY and somebody is doing exactly the same thing with exactly the same surplus bags for $114 a pair plus shipping. I went ahead and bought a pair...$85 shipped. I'll find some good uses for them. On Jul 27, 2:20 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:54 PM, William wrote: http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=443 I have no affiliation with this guy. He apparently got his hands on some boxish military surplus bags, and offers them modified to be panniers. They are tiny (maybe not quite big enough for an 8.5 x 11 item), but he offers it as a pannier, a shoulderbag, a saddlebag, and a handlebar bag. Cheap at $42 each (shipping included) (or only $30 if he doesn't do any modifications to the base bag). Riv content: he correctly uses the term 'beausage'. Ah, this is Jeff Potter's web site. Jeff knows his way around Rivendellia and is an ardent DIY'er. In some ways he makes Grant seem pretty mainstream. Jeff also offers some interesting bike books including Victor Vincente of America's epic poem to dirt bike riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
Don't stop at drawing it, build it! I built my first frame this past spring, had a blast, learned a lot, and ended up with one of the nicest frames I've ever ridden! On Jul 27, 2:25 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Touring gear list advice
I like doing my own maintenance and fixing my own mechanical problems on the road. I tend to see dealing with repair problems as part of the adventure of touring. I also enjoy being of service to other tourers I meet who are having bike issues. So, because I enjoy wrenching and being independent of shop mechanics, I do carry a heavier tool kit. I economize on other equipment to balance out the weight. Note: For self- contained touring, my total base gear load is about 45 pounds including the panniers. Bike Touring Repair Kit Contents (With some items carried elsewhere)* --All of these items are packed in a small, 2-pocket fanny pack and travel in a front pannier. This is the kit I use for 2- to 6-week, self-contained tours where bike shops might be inconsistently available-- Tools Crank Bro’s M10 Multitool Park 8/10 Open End Wrench Chainring Bolt Tool Mini Vise Grips Brooks Saddle Spanner Park Chain Checker (CC-3) Stein Mini Cassette Lockring Tool Park Spoke Wrench ½ Hacksaw Blade 15mm Wrench Park CT-5 Chain Tool Single 5mm Hex Wrench (for seat adjustment) Tire Repair TTO2 Patch Kit – Double Contents 2 Valve Caps 2 Presta Stem Nuts Presta/Schrader Rim Adapter Presta/Schrader Fill Adapter 1-2 Spare Tubes Spare Tire Spares 2 Ortlieb Pannier Clip Spacers 2 Planet Bike Fender Stay Bolts 1 Bottom Fender Spacer 2 Ortlieb Rack Spacers 4 M5 Stainless Fender Washers 4 M5 Stainless Washers 4 M5 Split/Lock Washers 4 M5 Nylock Nuts 10 Asst’d Stainless M5 Bolts Derailleur/Brake Cable End Crimps Derailleur/Brake Cable Housing End Caps 3 Cable “Donuts” Brake Noodle Boot 8 9 Speed Sram Powerlinks 5mm Cassette Spacer (allows use of 7 speed cassette on 8/9 speed hub) Brake Cable Brake Pads Derailleur Cable FiberFix Spoke Miscellaneous Modified Jansport Fanny Pack Assorted Zip Ties Tenacious Tape(TM) Therm-A-Rest Repair Kit Small Bottle Phil Grease Small Bottle with Boeshield T-9 Lube Small Bottle Blue Loctite Total weight of above items = 3 lbs 14 oz *Repair Items Carried Elsewhere Small Swiss Army Knife (Kitchen) Folding Scissors (First Aid) Sewing Kit (First Aid) 3 Spokes (Taped to Rack) Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HP (Frame) Dollar Bill (Tire Boot) Mini Duct Tape Roll (Front Pannier) Nylon Cord (Clothesline and Repair - Front Pannier) On Jul 25, 10:30 pm, thebvo the...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all! I'm doing the Pacific coast tour (2000 miles - yikes) in september. It will be my first long distance tour ever, so I would love to hear suggestions on what to bring, besides camping gear. I've been backpacking for 10 years, so that part is covered, but what I'm curious about deals with bike tools and accessories and tips. For example: bike pumps - cO2 cartridge or top tube pump? Pedals - Grip king or cages? - I am NOT doing the lance armstrong shoes. So, I dunno. I'm just puttin it out there if anyone with experience wants to float some knowledge my way about touring. Thanks a lot ~Ben ps: I'll be out in the woods canoeing for 3 weeks, but when I get back I'll be ready to read and learn. Cheerio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
Pics please! I'm intrigued by this idea, and will try to follow along if I can make the time. We often debate the merits of hand drawing versus computer drawing versus Building Information Modeling in my office. We're using ArchiCAD for most of our projects now, but sometimes I think about chucking it all and going back to drawing with parallel rule, scale and triangles which, by the way, I still have from when I started architecture school in 1974, and work just as well as they did then. Rob in Seattle On Jul 27, 2010, at 3:55 PM, pruckelshaus wrote: Don't stop at drawing it, build it! I built my first frame this past spring, had a blast, learned a lot, and ended up with one of the nicest frames I've ever ridden! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
This was in one of the old Bridgestone catalogs, or perhaps in a BOB pamphlet for those who have the complete archival collection, it is in there somewhere. Maybe a bridgestone handout? I think if you have lots of drafting experience, this is pretty easy. Lots of framebuilders work from full sized frame drawings so they can lay the tubes and tacked assembluies on the drawings to quickcheck dimensions and angles. Akll you really need is a big ruled straight edge, a adjustable triangle and a compass. Musty recollection is that was all that was in the old Grant draw a bike publication. On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:25 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Tarik Saleh tas at tariksaleh dot com in los alamos, po box 208, 87544 http://tariksaleh.com all sorts of bikes blog: http://tsaleh.blogspot.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
You might want to play around with BikeCAD, too. http://www.bikeforest.com/CAD/index.php# The full-featured version is expensive, but the on-line Java version is free and quite fun to play with. It can even model 650b wheels with 42 mm tires! Bill On Jul 27, 11:25 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Big guy advice
I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Seat Sgueaks!
On 27 July, 21:40, Peter Andrews beardedpe...@gmail.com wrote: The B17 I got just over a year ago is the first Brooks saddle I've ever had. I encountered the tedious 'squeak' (creak) for many months, // // I chose the tenacious oil over a heavier grease so it could penetrate better. Chain oil would penetrate, but might not be viscous enough to have a lasting effect. Careful with any mineral oil for it is the enemy of leather, the fibres will break where contaminated. If you're a feather-weight, you might get a nano-meter of movement as you mount or dismount, or if you aggressively pedal-bounce in your seat. We heavier riders will get a bit more movement (and volume) than that. My bike is now stealthy silent, but for the purr of the chain and the coasting click of the freewheel. A judicious use of grease and oil will take care of that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Big guy advice
Don't have a Hilsen, but have a Sam Hillborne. Also 220 (this year. Last year was about 240 when the bike arrived.) No problems at all. Now, the SH is a bit stouter built than the AHH. So there may be a slight difference. However, I don't think you'll have a problem. If you purchased through Rivendell and Grant and/or Keven gave to okay (or kave the gokay) then it should be good. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Jul 27, 4:00 pm, JB baile...@voyager.net wrote: I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Big guy advice
on 7/27/10 2:00 PM, JB at baile...@voyager.net wrote: I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. What size frame are you getting? - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries - http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here - http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Big guy advice
I'm currently 266 lbs, down from 280 in June. I have both a 61 Homer that I ride with Open Pro 32 spoked wheels and tires pumped F60/R90 with 35mm Mara Supremes and a 61 Atlantis that just replaced the 60 Bombadil that was too big for me. The Atlantis has Dyad 36 rims with 50mm Big Apples pumped to F30/R50. While I ride mostly seated, when I stand to pedal the Atlantis has no rub whatsoever while the Homer's front tire rubs against the Honjo fender somewhere and I can see the front wheel flex a bit. At first I thought it was the front derailer rubbing, but after paying some attention realized the noise came from the fender, and I could avoid it by not tilting the bike so much to miunimize the wheel flex while standing. The Atlantis has 60mm Berthoud fenders but there si no rubbing and I don't see the stronger Dyad wheels flex. You should have no problems with good wheels. Now, choosing between the Homer and the Atlantis... René On 7/27/10, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: Just order it with a thicker downtube and pay the upcharge. On Jul 27, 2:00 pm, JB baile...@voyager.net wrote: I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Sent from my mobile device -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Big guy advice
I have a Rambouillet and an Atlantis. The Atlantis is a work horse that can haul a load and is fun to ride unloaded. I have ridden 200k brevets on it when my Rambouillet was out of commission. The Rambouillet feels more lively when unloaded and will always be my first choice for unloaded riding. I have even done Inn to Inn touring on the Rambouillet bike. I currently weigh 210, have been as high as 230 and as low as 200. I have not been disappointed by this bike. It is my understanding that the Hilsen tubing falls in between the Rambouillet and the Atlantis. I think given your description this is the bike you are looking for. I will offer this, if you aren't sure call Rivendell. I have found that they are very good at matching bike and rider and they won't steer you wrong. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:00:09 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Big guy advice From: baile...@voyager.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendarocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:55 PM, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: Don't stop at drawing it, build it! I built my first frame this past spring, had a blast, learned a lot, and ended up with one of the nicest frames I've ever ridden! I realize this is off-topic but Mike Flanigan of ANT bikes in massachussets offers a bike building class where you get one one one lessons and leave the class with a bike frame. I know at least one person who has taken this course and he really enjoyed it. http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/br-3/ -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 6:55 PM, pruckelshaus pruckelsh...@gmail.com wrote: Don't stop at drawing it, build it! I built my first frame this past spring, had a blast, learned a lot, and ended up with one of the nicest frames I've ever ridden! I realize this is off-topic but Mike Flanigan of ANT bikes in massachussets offers a bike building class where you get one one one lessons and leave the class with a bike frame. I know at least one person who has taken this course and he really enjoyed it. http://antbikemike.wordpress.com/br-3/ Doug Fattic in Michigan also does framebuilding classes, in fact i think he's mostly teaching now and now building many frames. A friend here in town took the class last fall and made a beautiful road frame. I know other local builders will sometimes take on an apprentice, but there aren't that many who do regular classes. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
I did this: signed up for a framebuilding class, measured my youngest son who needed a good road bike, and built a virtual clone of my Rambouillet. The only change I made was to increase the fender clearance slightly under the headtube and the seat stay bridge since my Ram frankly runs at the minimum usable clearance with 28mm tires. The lugged bike turned out to be spectacular: it handles, if you can believe this, slightly better than the Ram (although I suspect that my handling test was biased due to less weight in the front bag). No matter; he loves the bike. I spent about twelve Sundays building this and loved every minute of it. If you can spare the time and cash, do it. Steve Ames, IA On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tonight's Ride Photo
Taken from aboard my Quickbeam (aka The Quickbeam That Conquered France). http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4836538284/ --Eric campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com www.wheelsnorth.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Seat Sgueaks! Fixed!
Well, my squeaker was the leather at the nose of the saddle rubbing on the plate that the nose rivets attach to. I applied a bit of neatsfoot oil to the juncture of the plate with the leather and voila - No More Squ(C)reaks. Thanks to all for the many suggestions. -JimD ...and special thanks to Peter for coming up with the tech term of the week Squ(C)reaks'. On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:40 PM, Peter Andrews wrote: The B17 I got just over a year ago is the first Brooks saddle I've ever had. I encountered the tedious 'squeak' (creak) for many months, applying various 'remedies' (Obenauf's on the underside of the leather, getting some between the rear plate and leather, tightening and loosening the tension bolt, lube the rails where they're clamped by the seat post), all of which gave some temporary relief, but the creak would eventually come back. Somehow I'd forgotten the old rule of thumb about lubing up the areas where metal contacts metal (aside form the rails), especially where threaded (you know, like your crank bolts and pedals and bearing cups and even your quill in the fork tube). I took some of Phil's Tenacious oil, took my saddle off for ease of access, and made sure to douse the tension bolt threads, the plate it threads into, and especially where that plate (the one the tension bolt goes through, and this was my 'aha!' moment) wraps around the front loop of the seat rails. This is a pivot point where metal rubs metal, and if your saddle is really tight, it rubs hard. If it's tighter than that (it shouldn't be!) it won't move and thus won't rub and thus will not squ(c)reak until the leather stretches and allows for movement and the squ(c)reak comes back (and then many of us who do not know better will tighten it again (this includes me) until it goes away and comes back again and again and again luckily I only did this a few times and did not ruin my saddle). I chose the tenacious oil over a heavier grease so it could penetrate better. Chain oil would penetrate, but might not be viscous enough to have a lasting effect. If you're a feather-weight, you might get a nano-meter of movement as you mount or dismount, or if you aggressively pedal-bounce in your seat. We heavier riders will get a bit more movement (and volume) than that. My bike is now stealthy silent, but for the purr of the chain and the coasting click of the freewheel. I hope this helps. -Peter On Jul 26, 5:22 pm, thirty-six thirty-...@live.co.uk wrote: On 26 July, 16:18, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Not mine, the Riv's. I'm using a Brooks Swift and it is making noise. I'll characterize it as a leathery squeak. I've lubricated and checked the fasteners and think this is a leather squeak not a rail to seat post or seat post to frame squeak. Has anyone here encountered such a problem? Yes. Any experience/tips on how to cure saddle squeak? Look for a loose rivet and close it up. Oil the leather after releasing some tension. At least with the Wrights saddles the leather would likely mishape because it doesn't always draw in the oil evenly. So with the thicker Brooks I also am careful to detension before applying oil. Use castor oil if you don't have the Brooks dressing. If the squeak still exists it's more likely the saddle clamp and rail interface than the nose adjuster of the saddle. Sometimes a bit of paper around the saddle rail is needed to prevent the return of the squeak. For the adjuster, use a solid lubricant such as molybdenum disulphide for a long term cure. I'm particularly concerned as the Swift I used on Sierra-to-the-Sea developed a bent tensioner bolt and went kaput. Wow! It's a bummer as Swifts work great for me. I'm becoming skeptical about their durability not to mention their acoustic qualities. -JImD -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Big guy advice
61 On Jul 27, 8:59 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 7/27/10 2:00 PM, JB at baile...@voyager.net wrote: I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. What size frame are you getting? - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Big guy advice
Thanks all, I'm buying the bike at The Country Bike Shop in Ohio -- they're a Rivendell dealer. The owner (Dick) was great to work with and spent all day with me getting the right fit. I tried a number of sizes of Hillbourns and Hilsens. The second I got on the 61cm Hilsen I knew I had the right fit. Between riding my own bike to the shop and riding different Rivendell's, I put on 93 km that day and had a good long try on all the bikes. However, there are no (zero, none, nada) hills in that part of Ohio and he had no Atlantis to try. I have been in contact with Rivendell (Mark) and it seemed that either bike would be OK. The frame is already in but it'll be about 3 weeks before the build is done. Just wanted some reassurance from the masses. Thanks, it doesn't sound as though I really have any worries. John On Jul 27, 9:47 pm, Larry Powers lapower...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a Rambouillet and an Atlantis. The Atlantis is a work horse that can haul a load and is fun to ride unloaded. I have ridden 200k brevets on it when my Rambouillet was out of commission. The Rambouillet feels more lively when unloaded and will always be my first choice for unloaded riding. I have even done Inn to Inn touring on the Rambouillet bike. I currently weigh 210, have been as high as 230 and as low as 200. I have not been disappointed by this bike. It is my understanding that the Hilsen tubing falls in between the Rambouillet and the Atlantis. I think given your description this is the bike you are looking for. I will offer this, if you aren't sure call Rivendell. I have found that they are very good at matching bike and rider and they won't steer you wrong. Larry Powers Get a bicycle. You will not regret it if you live. - Mark Twain Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:00:09 -0700 Subject: [RBW] Big guy advice From: baile...@voyager.net To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. Thanks, John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. _ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail.http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendaroci... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Big guy advice
Jim's question is key. Frame size matters. Given the same tubing, big frames flex more than smaller ones. Riv has gone to double TT's to add stiffness to the larger frame sizes. I weigh about 210 and I'm pretty athletic. When I stand and pedal aggressively, I sometimes flex my 64cm Atlantis in the same manner you describe. My 60cm Bombadil doesn't have the same degree of flex even under off road conditions because it's smaller, has double TT's and thicker tubing overall. Dave On Jul 27, 5:59 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 7/27/10 2:00 PM, JB at baile...@voyager.net wrote: I've ordered an A. Homer Hilsen. I've got a bit of a worry. At 220 lbs. I presently ride a Trek FX 7.3. Anytime I stand up to power up a hill, I get flex in the lower seat post and the chain touches the deraileur. It's a minor annoyance, but I've wondered if the A. Homer Hilsen will be adequately stiff for me. I don't plan on any loaded touring with the bike, just all day long trips on paved roads with a few dirt roads thrown into the mix. I've lost a considerable amount of weight since I started riding a year ago, so I'm not likely to lose much more. I really like the A. Homer, but would switch to the Atlantis if really necessary. I'm hoping some out there in Riv land are big guys that have been riding the Hilsen can give me their opinion. What size frame are you getting? - J -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net Cyclofiend Bicycle Photo Galleries -http://www.cyclofiend.com Current Classics - Cross Bikes Singlespeed - Working Bikes Gallery updates now appear here -http://cyclofiend.blogspot.com 'You both ride your bike?' He held his hands out and grabbed imaginary handlebars, grinning indulgently, eyeing Tom's helmet. Double disbeleif: not one, but two grown Americans riding bicycles. -- Neal Stephenson, Zodiac -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: I'm going to draw my own frame! Who else will follow along?
I took a welding class (Welding for Artists, or something like that) at the local community college a few years ago and got to try everything and developed instant respect for the simplest welds in my life. I got to try both gas and electric and gas brazing and plasma cutting, and it's on my list. But teaching school science starting last week, 6 weeks too soon for me -maybe it's time to retire and ride and make bikes and whittle spoons and kuksas...need to gather school supplies... On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Steve sring...@gmail.com wrote: I did this: signed up for a framebuilding class, measured my youngest son who needed a good road bike, and built a virtual clone of my Rambouillet. The only change I made was to increase the fender clearance slightly under the headtube and the seat stay bridge since my Ram frankly runs at the minimum usable clearance with 28mm tires. The lugged bike turned out to be spectacular: it handles, if you can believe this, slightly better than the Ram (although I suspect that my handling test was biased due to less weight in the front bag). No matter; he loves the bike. I spent about twelve Sundays building this and loved every minute of it. If you can spare the time and cash, do it. Steve Ames, IA On Jul 27, 1:25 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Grant is apparently going to teach us how to draw a bike frame in his little step by step way. I'm going to follow along. I want a custom frame that somewhat resembles a 58cm 650B A. Homer Hilsen. The critical differences will be that I want it 130mm spaced and want it to be a lighter frameset. I don't know if I'll ever get this frameset made, or whether it will be a Rivendell or an Ebisu or a Davidson or something else. But I'm looking forward to drawing it. I've done a fair amount of drafting table work in Engineering school, but never went ahead and drew a bike. Looking forward to it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Bill Gibson Tempe, Arizona, USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: quieting the Shopsack
Oliver: I have the Sackville Shopsack in the Wald. I really like it and I don't have the rattle issue. I did get a wobble in the front tire when I reach 27.2 miles per hour. Do you ever get a wobble in your front tire? Cal M. On Jul 25, 9:35 pm, Oliver S. os...@pdx.edu wrote: The medium Sackville Shopsack in the Wald basket has been wonderful. Keeps things dry, easy to detach and bring into the store, nice looking, easy to open and close, canvas feels nice, etc. But sometimes the rattle from the dog leash hooks bothers me. I was wondering if anyone was using any clever methods to reduce the rattle. Figuring that some old tubes or cloth tape would work. Any other ideas? Thanks, Oliver Smith -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Any Interest of doing a S240 in Bay Area?
Sunday would probably not do for me, unfortunately. Saturday afternoon is good, if you want to really pack your day. Maybe the next weekend would be better? Reid On Jul 26, 3:53 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: That's wonderful! We should get together and do a short ride to meet. I'm traveling all week but will be home on Friday night. Care to meet somewhere on Sunday morning and go for a 10-15 mile ride with a stop for coffee and chatting afterwards? I have a few doctor appointments on Saturday morning, and the afternoon is going to be most likely devoted to family time after being away all week, but if needed, Saturday afternoon is also an option. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Interesting tiny upcycled panniers found, cheap!
I talked a bit with Jeff Potter on a Rivendell ride up Mt Diablo a few years ago. Really nice guy. philip 97128 On Jul 27, 3:02 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Seems like a cool guy. I searched on ETSY and somebody is doing exactly the same thing with exactly the same surplus bags for $114 a pair plus shipping. I went ahead and bought a pair...$85 shipped. I'll find some good uses for them. On Jul 27, 2:20 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Jul 27, 2010, at 1:54 PM, William wrote: http://www.outyourbackdoor.com/article.php?id=443 I have no affiliation with this guy. He apparently got his hands on some boxish military surplus bags, and offers them modified to be panniers. They are tiny (maybe not quite big enough for an 8.5 x 11 item), but he offers it as a pannier, a shoulderbag, a saddlebag, and a handlebar bag. Cheap at $42 each (shipping included) (or only $30 if he doesn't do any modifications to the base bag). Riv content: he correctly uses the term 'beausage'. Ah, this is Jeff Potter's web site. Jeff knows his way around Rivendellia and is an ardent DIY'er. In some ways he makes Grant seem pretty mainstream. Jeff also offers some interesting bike books including Victor Vincente of America's epic poem to dirt bike riding. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
