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On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:43 AM, kevin lindsey  wrote:
> Greetings.
> I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to
> something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic
> reasons.

This is a bad reason to change bars on a bike you do long rides on,
unless you subscribe to the idea "that one must suffer to be
beautiful" or you find such bars as comfortable as drops. I myself
have tried all sorts of bars but always come back to drops simply
because they are more comfortable for me.

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Re: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange

Serious.  The Roadeo is pretty much the updated Rambouillet.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 5:53 AM, Frederick, Steve  wrote:

> If it were me (tho perhaps this falls outside your budget) I'd order up a
> Roadeo with Rambouillet orange paint...
>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of Eric
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 2:17 AM
> To: RBW Owners Bunch
> Subject: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange
>
>
> I missed out on another so if you're looking to part with one, I'm
> your man!
>
> Thanks!!
>
> - Eric
>
> On Jul 26, 4:39 pm, Eric  wrote:
> > Haha! I'm 32 and in a Grad program at Northwestern. The class cost a
> > ton!
> >
> > So I'm ready to do a 100 mile ride from Chicago to Milwaukee on Sunday
> > & 100 miles back on Monday.
> >
> > And my mom tells me "oh honey, you better study"...did I mention I'm
> > 32, far from high school!
> >
> > But I did as I was told, like a good boy!
> >
> > I'll score an orange Rambo sooner or later...thanks!
> >
> > On Jul 26, 2:17 pm, Curtis Schmitt  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Seriously, you need to learn how to procrastinate.
> >
> > > Proper order of operations:
> > > craigslist: Rivendell
> > > eBay: Rivendell
> > > beer
> > > snack
> > > facebook/tv
> > > homework
> >
> > > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 3:08 PM, rcnute  wrote:
> > > > Let this be a lesson to surf ebay before and during homework.- Hide
> quoted text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
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> > - Show quoted text -
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Re: [RBW] Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:43 AM, kevin lindsey  wrote:
> Greetings.
> I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to
> something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic
> reasons.  I use the bike (a 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur, not a
> Rivendell) for longish fun rides, errands, and general purpose
> riding.  Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times
> when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops.  In other
> words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?
> I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the
> upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very
> much if I switched.
>

Plenty of room for all sorts of handlebars. I find for around town I
really appreciate the albatross bars  but I can get more comfortable
on longer rides on a set of noodles.

I don't think it has to be an either-or.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:44 AM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Serious.  The Roadeo is pretty much the updated Rambouillet.
>

+1.

Or look for a used Romulus and get it painted.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread Curtis Schmitt

I totally agree with Seth.

I just picked up a Romulus two weeks ago that came set-up very nicely with
Albatross bars and bar-end shifters. I absolutely love these bars for
commuting, coffee shop runs and rides to brunch, especially when wearing a
suit or sport jacket, but have a 50-mile (each way) bicycle camping trip
coming up Labor Day weekend and I am dreading trying to make the trip with
these bars. Being a long-time Noodle-lover, that is what I'd want on the Rom
for next weekend's trip ideally.

And as Seth mentioned earlier in the month, the DaVinci splitters or
BruceGordonQS2s make different bar options available quite
conveniently. As the Romulus
is so versatile, makes sense to me to have at least two bar options for my
needs so this is the route I'll go next week if timing allows.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:43 AM, kevin lindsey wrote:
In other words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:50 AM, Seth Vidal  wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 6:43 AM, kevin lindsey 
> wrote:
> > In other words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?
>
> Plenty of room for all sorts of handlebars. I find for around town I
> really appreciate the albatross bars  but I can get more comfortable
> on longer rides on a set of noodles.
>
> I don't think it has to be an either-or.
>
> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread Ray Shine

Kevin -- I switched two of my Riv's from drops to Albatross, and have never 
looked back.  For city riding, and lots of road rides, the more upright 
position 
is an advantage.  On my Quickbeam, I switched to Alba and find that I can still 
"climb" out of the saddle by grabbing the forward bend of the bar.  Works just 
fine. I don't tape that section either because the cool metal actually feels 
good on my hot hands.  I like that a lot.  I also ride out there a lot when 
going into wind.  Works just as well as hoods on drops, in my opinion.





From: kevin lindsey 
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Sent: Fri, August 27, 2010 3:43:24 AM
Subject: [RBW] Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

Greetings.
I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to
something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic
reasons.  I use the bike (a 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur, not a
Rivendell) for longish fun rides, errands, and general purpose
riding.  Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times
when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops.  In other
words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?
I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the
upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very
much if I switched.
Thanks,
Kevin

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[RBW] Re: More uses for John's Irish strap

2010-08-27 Thread jinxed

I made a watch strap.

I had an old nato strap that came apart years ago but I saved all the
hardware. Cleaning out my desk drawer I found it again. Curious if I
had any webbing laying around to remake it, I had the brain fart of
checking out the width of the irish straps. Bingo! It was the perfect
18mm width. I pulled out the sewing machine and cobbled it together.
My plan is to use it on the Mondaine RR watch I plan to buy with my
dividend...hopefully they will still be carrying them by then. Till
then it resides on my old Timex Auto. Unfortunately it needs a
service.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4931657723_2ed0b7fbcd_b.jpg



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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

2010-08-27 Thread fulf

I own an Atlantis set up as a touring bike with 700*35 Marathon
Supremes. It rides beautifully on roads. I too have been thinking of
adding another Riv, possibly a Bombadil or Hunq. I also considered the
AHH and then putting larger tires on the Atlantis. With the
suggestions from others of adding an AHH,my new thoughts are about the
Hillborne. How does that compare, is it more of an Atlantis or AHH?
Bill

> Any thoughts, comments or anything?   Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

2010-08-27 Thread RJM

The AHH and the Bombadil or a Hunqapillar might be the solution,
sticking with the Bombadil would keep me strapped to 650 wheels which
isn't a terrible thing.  I'm not sure what route I am going to go with
yet, I will probably wind up ordering the first bike in a month or
two, so I have some time.

Right now I am riding a Trek 7.5 FX so I have a rideable bike for
rails to trails type stuff and the road, but no singletrack capable
bike.  I would like to replace the FX with a Rivendell though.  I have
some thinking to do though, but I think the first one will probably be
a trail worthy bike.

On Aug 26, 6:03 pm, Mike  wrote:
>
>
> To the OP, let us know what you decide. It doesn't sound like you have
> any big tours planned so maybe consider getting a SH (single TT
> Taiwanese model) or an AHH, ride it for a while and make your decision
> about a touring bike from there.
>
> --mike
>
> On Aug 26, 1:03 pm, "cyclotour...@gmail.com" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > This is a great option!  An AHH and a Bomb would make a great 1-2
> > punch, with less duplication than a Bomb/Atlantis combo. Whichever two
> > you end up with, having a single wheel size is pretty nice.
>
> > On Aug 26, 7:34 am, William  wrote:- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread JoelMatthews

I use Albatross bars for touring and am very happy with them.

Drops are very popular among the U.S. touring crowd.  European, South
American and Asian cycle tourists are far more likely to use swept
back bars (many of which are similar but inferior to Albatross) and
even straight bars for touring.

It really is a personal choice.  However, Albatross bars can and do
make a wonderful touring choice for many.

On Aug 27, 5:43 am, kevin lindsey  wrote:
> Greetings.
> I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to
> something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic
> reasons.  I use the bike (a 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur, not a
> Rivendell) for longish fun rides, errands, and general purpose
> riding.  Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times
> when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops.  In other
> words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?
> I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the
> upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very
> much if I switched.
> Thanks,
> Kevin

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[RBW] New bike and help me find a headlight for my moustache bars

2010-08-27 Thread Adam Kimball

Wow, I finally made it!  About four years ago I first saw an AHH, and
I lusted for it.  I ended up cheaping out a bit and buying a new Ram
that showed up on ebay.  Hardly cheaping out, I know, but the complete
bike was only about $100 more than the AHH frame.  This time, I found
the frame locally (thanks Don!) and just had it built up with a hodge-
podge of parts that keeps it real, but also kept it cheap.  I'll have
time to upgrade this and that later.  Whether I will like this bike
more than my Big Dummy is an open question (but also an apples and
oranges comparison).  Anyway, I love it - and thanks to this list for
all the helpful advice. I'll post some pics soon.

That said, I need a new cheap headlight.  I'll put a generator hub and
a light on it someday, but for now - money must be saved.  I tried to
put on my Planet Bike light but it wouldn't fit around the moustache
bars, the cable which runs under the tape, and some pretty thick
leather tape.  If any of you have been through this issue - what light
did you settle on?  Something under $30 ideally.

Thanks,
Adam

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[RBW] Re: More uses for John's Irish strap

2010-08-27 Thread jose

nice watch!

On Aug 27, 11:32 am, jinxed  wrote:
> I made a watch strap.
>
> I had an old nato strap that came apart years ago but I saved all the
> hardware. Cleaning out my desk drawer I found it again. Curious if I
> had any webbing laying around to remake it, I had the brain fart of
> checking out the width of the irish straps. Bingo! It was the perfect
> 18mm width. I pulled out the sewing machine and cobbled it together.
> My plan is to use it on the Mondaine RR watch I plan to buy with my
> dividend...hopefully they will still be carrying them by then. Till
> then it resides on my old Timex Auto. Unfortunately it needs a
> service.
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4931657723_2ed0b7fbcd_b.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Duluth Banana Bag, Other stuff FS

2010-08-27 Thread Garth

The Slingshot Stem is sold.

The Duluth Banana Bag is sold.

Thank you for the sales.

I'll sell the Specialized bars alone , with the 22.2 to 25.4 shim, for
$30, including shipping of course.


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Re: [RBW] New bike and help me find a headlight for my moustache bars

Look at Velo Orange (or a good bike shop) for the Minoura Besso Holder
which can clamp to you fork leg.
http://www.velo-orange.com/mibeliho.html I've made my own out of 2"
sections of handlebar and hose clamps (dremel the fork side to fit the
contour of the fork blade) and they actually don't look as bad as they
sound. Very sturdy, too. But the MB is a lot easier and ought to work
well, tho' I don't like their clamp design for its fiddliness --
again, despite that, it seems to clamp well.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Adam Kimball  wrote:
> Wow, I finally made it!  About four years ago I first saw an AHH, and
> I lusted for it.  I ended up cheaping out a bit and buying a new Ram
> that showed up on ebay.  Hardly cheaping out, I know, but the complete
> bike was only about $100 more than the AHH frame.  This time, I found
> the frame locally (thanks Don!) and just had it built up with a hodge-
> podge of parts that keeps it real, but also kept it cheap.  I'll have
> time to upgrade this and that later.  Whether I will like this bike
> more than my Big Dummy is an open question (but also an apples and
> oranges comparison).  Anyway, I love it - and thanks to this list for
> all the helpful advice. I'll post some pics soon.
>
> That said, I need a new cheap headlight.  I'll put a generator hub and
> a light on it someday, but for now - money must be saved.  I tried to
> put on my Planet Bike light but it wouldn't fit around the moustache
> bars, the cable which runs under the tape, and some pretty thick
> leather tape.  If any of you have been through this issue - what light
> did you settle on?  Something under $30 ideally.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
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Re: [RBW] Re: Vitruvian Shoes

2010-08-27 Thread Jon Grant

Bruce wrote:

 When I placed my order for a pair of Symmetry II shoes, I got an email back
saying that these run a tad smaller than the original Symmetry shoes I
ordered last year, and suggesting I move up a size. That's pretty attentive
service from anyone, let alone someone closing up shop. I took the advice
and the fit of the new shoes is good.

---

I got the same message when I ordered two more pair. On their advice I
changed 10.5 to 11. I agree about the service; they're GOOB and have a
strict no refund/exchange policy, so they could've just taken my money and
set me useless shoes, but they didn't. Now I have enough Vitruvians to last
another decade or more. My second pair is still in casual service, and my
first pair serve as lawn-mowing shoes.

Sorry to see them go. In my view, they may be closing the doors, but they
did not fail.

RBW content: I first heard of Vitruvian through a recommendation by Grant
Petersen at Rivendell, and the shoes definitely fit my understanding of The
Rivendell Way.

--
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[RBW] Re: More uses for John's Irish strap

2010-08-27 Thread Lee

On Aug 26, 10:27 pm, jose  wrote:
> My wife forgot a belt, so guess what one strap is being used for?
> Looks good too.

Same! It's my fave riding belt:

http://tinyurl.com/24xpf4k

Happy near weekend,
Lee

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread Tim McNamara



On Aug 27, 2010, at 5:43 AM, kevin lindsey wrote:


Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times
when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops.


Every time I've ridden a bike without drop bars for more than a mile.


In other words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?
I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the
upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very
much if I switched.


With flat (e.g., MTB) bars I find my hands go numb within minutes;  
this doesn't happen with drop bars.  With curved bars (e.g., North  
Road bars, etc.) I'm just too upright for comfort.


YMMV, of course.  Lots of people strongly prefer flat or curved bars  
and a more upright position.


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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread GeorgeS

Even if one never get into the drops, a drop bar gives one numerous
hand positions - tops, ramps, hoods, side of the ramps and so forth.
With Albatross bars or mostache-type bars (particularly if the center
of the bar is loaded with computers, lights and other gadgets), one is
basically limited to one hand position at the grips.  For riding
around town and short commutes this works fine: I have Jentensa (sp?)
swept-back bars on my commuter and I love them.  But for any kind of
longer ride, or a real trip, I want drops for the comfort.  And
sometimes I really need the drops.  I took a trip this summer in NE
Vermont and Quebec that required a lot of climbing and descending.
With a load fore and aft, I always felt more in control when I was in
the drops, particularly on long fast descents.
GeorgeS

On Aug 27, 5:43 am, kevin lindsey  wrote:
> Greetings.
> I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to
> something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic
> reasons.  I use the bike (a 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur, not a
> Rivendell) for longish fun rides, errands, and general purpose
> riding.  Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times
> when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops.  In other
> words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?
> I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the
> upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very
> much if I switched.
> Thanks,
> Kevin

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RE: [RBW] New bike and help me find a headlight for my moustache bars

2010-08-27 Thread Frederick, Steve

Or go with one of these if you have an appropriate braze-on.  Got one on my 
commuter...

http://www.atoc.com/litebeams.php

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moustache bars


Look at Velo Orange (or a good bike shop) for the Minoura Besso Holder
which can clamp to you fork leg.
http://www.velo-orange.com/mibeliho.html I've made my own out of 2"
sections of handlebar and hose clamps (dremel the fork side to fit the
contour of the fork blade) and they actually don't look as bad as they
sound. Very sturdy, too. But the MB is a lot easier and ought to work
well, tho' I don't like their clamp design for its fiddliness --
again, despite that, it seems to clamp well.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Adam Kimball  wrote:
> Wow, I finally made it!  About four years ago I first saw an AHH, and
> I lusted for it.  I ended up cheaping out a bit and buying a new Ram
> that showed up on ebay.  Hardly cheaping out, I know, but the complete
> bike was only about $100 more than the AHH frame.  This time, I found
> the frame locally (thanks Don!) and just had it built up with a hodge-
> podge of parts that keeps it real, but also kept it cheap.  I'll have
> time to upgrade this and that later.  Whether I will like this bike
> more than my Big Dummy is an open question (but also an apples and
> oranges comparison).  Anyway, I love it - and thanks to this list for
> all the helpful advice. I'll post some pics soon.
>
> That said, I need a new cheap headlight.  I'll put a generator hub and
> a light on it someday, but for now - money must be saved.  I tried to
> put on my Planet Bike light but it wouldn't fit around the moustache
> bars, the cable which runs under the tape, and some pretty thick
> leather tape.  If any of you have been through this issue - what light
> did you settle on?  Something under $30 ideally.
>
> Thanks,
> Adam
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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread cyclotour...@gmail.com

Kevin, this is pretty much one of those things that you just have to
do and find out for yourself.  Every type of handlebar has positives
and negatives associated with it.  If you do get some A-bars, I would
recommend getting the steel ones and the long & tall Technomic (non-
dlx) stem. Those two make a wonderful combination IMHO.  Wrap the
forward curves with some extra cloth tape to have a nice extra aero
position to use on the straights.

If it doesn't work out, you can re-sell them quite easily here on the
RBW list.  :-)

David

On Aug 27, 7:59 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> I use Albatross bars for touring and am very happy with them.
>
> Drops are very popular among the U.S. touring crowd.  European, South
> American and Asian cycle tourists are far more likely to use swept
> back bars (many of which are similar but inferior to Albatross) and
> even straight bars for touring.
>
> It really is a personal choice.  However, Albatross bars can and do
> make a wonderful touring choice for many.
>
> On Aug 27, 5:43 am, kevin lindsey  wrote:
>
> > Greetings.
> > I'm doing a rebuild and am considering switching from drop bars to
> > something like the albatross or the dove bars, mostly for aesthetic
> > reasons.  I use the bike (a 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur, not a
> > Rivendell) for longish fun rides, errands, and general purpose
> > riding.  Question I have for the group is whether there are ever times
> > when you wished you had drop bars instead of non-drops.  In other
> > words, are there clear advantages of one over the other?
> > I like drops, but find that I almost never move my hands from the
> > upper part of the bar, making me wonder whether I'd miss them very
> > much if I switched.
> > Thanks,
> > Kevin

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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqapillar or Bombadil for the trails?

When I bought my Sam, Keven pointed out to me that it is not as stiff
as the Atlantis; more of an all rounder with lighter tubing than a
full on touring bike. Yet is seems to handle loads well enough with a
Tubus (= very stiff and strong) rack.

My 56, canti, Waterford is for sale: low miles, lowrider brazeons
added; with hs, sp, fenders (VO aluminum), cantis (no levers), stem
(no bar), 2-leg stand for $1250 + shipping.

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 5:15 PM, fulf  wrote:
> I own an Atlantis set up as a touring bike with 700*35 Marathon
> Supremes. It rides beautifully on roads. I too have been thinking of
> adding another Riv, possibly a Bombadil or Hunq. I also considered the
> AHH and then putting larger tires on the Atlantis. With the
> suggestions from others of adding an AHH,my new thoughts are about the
> Hillborne. How does that compare, is it more of an Atlantis or AHH?
> Bill
>
>> Any thoughts, comments or anything?   Thanks.
>
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[RBW] Re: The final frame drawing lesson is up

2010-08-27 Thread Philip Williamson

There are 12, right?

 Philip

On Aug 26, 5:59 pm, William  wrote:
> Didn't quite end with the flourish that I might have worked myself up
> to expect.  Anyway, pull down all the PDF's and go through it if
> you've been waiting.  Grant says he'll pull them down, for reasons
> that are not obvious to me.
>
> What I drew was a 650B road/brevet bike.  It look a LOT like a 58cm
> Saluki/Hilsen.  The only differences worth noting are that I used a
> hair more top tube upslope than the AHH.  Also, if I had a custom
> built, mine would be 130mm spaced, and I'd spec lighter tubing and
> fewer braze-ons.
>
> When Grant revealed that he ordered 10 650B 58cm Hilsens, though, I
> took that as a nudge to just buy one of those.  That's what I'm saving
> up for now as a next Riv.
>
> The next frame drawing project I'm going to do is superimpose all my
> bikes on top of each other, including the captain end of my tandem.
> It'll be interesting to see how they all line up in the relative
> arrangement of my three contact points: feet, butt, hands.

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[RBW] OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread Eduardo Rosas

I thought people on here might have had a similar proud parent moment!
My son asked me this am; so are we taking the bike again to school!
This is his first week of Kindergarten, a big boy now. His school is
only about 1 mile away and it sure is nice to skip the drop off/pick
up lines!

Anyway Happy Friday!

Pics of his rig: http://tinyurl.com/2em8fct

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread Michael Rivers

I look at the Alba/Moustache/Noodle as a range of bars for a range of
positions.

My Alba bike is a Kogswell P/R with fenders and a front basket for
commuting and trips to the market.  Although I can use the front of
the bar to get more aero, it is only for brief periods, and mostly I'm
sitting upright with my hands on the end of the bar. Trips are always
under an hour.

My 'stache touring bike is an Atlantis wanna-be (1985 steel trek MTB,
650b) that has bar end shifters, and I like to be forward for when I'm
on gravel and single track with loaded panniers.  I can sit up,
relatively, for short periods of time with my hands on the ends of the
bars, but is isn't as comfortable as the Alba bars. Woodchipper bars
are another version that fit into this category.

My Ram, and QB have drop bars, Noodles, as they are road/ bike path
bikes, and anything longer than 2 hours I need multiple hand
positions. I'm also riding at higher speeds, and being aero is more
important than when I'm touring or going to work.

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Re: [RBW] New bike and help me find a headlight for my moustache bars

Does the Ram have fork leg braze ons? They do work -- I've mounted
lights using these. I like this little gadget, though.

Another option, via Peter Jon White if not others, is the brake bolt
mount: it holds the light just above a caliper (also works with
cantis, etc. if you have that hole) and forward of the bottom headset
race. I prefer this one myself.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Frederick, Steve
 wrote:
> Or go with one of these if you have an appropriate braze-on.  Got one on my 
> commuter...
>
> http://www.atoc.com/litebeams.php
>
> -Original Message-
> From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com]on Behalf Of PATRICK MOORE
> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 11:21 AM
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [RBW] New bike and help me find a headlight for my
> moustache bars
>
>
> Look at Velo Orange (or a good bike shop) for the Minoura Besso Holder
> which can clamp to you fork leg.
> http://www.velo-orange.com/mibeliho.html I've made my own out of 2"
> sections of handlebar and hose clamps (dremel the fork side to fit the
> contour of the fork blade) and they actually don't look as bad as they
> sound. Very sturdy, too. But the MB is a lot easier and ought to work
> well, tho' I don't like their clamp design for its fiddliness --
> again, despite that, it seems to clamp well.
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Adam Kimball  wrote:
>> Wow, I finally made it!  About four years ago I first saw an AHH, and
>> I lusted for it.  I ended up cheaping out a bit and buying a new Ram
>> that showed up on ebay.  Hardly cheaping out, I know, but the complete
>> bike was only about $100 more than the AHH frame.  This time, I found
>> the frame locally (thanks Don!) and just had it built up with a hodge-
>> podge of parts that keeps it real, but also kept it cheap.  I'll have
>> time to upgrade this and that later.  Whether I will like this bike
>> more than my Big Dummy is an open question (but also an apples and
>> oranges comparison).  Anyway, I love it - and thanks to this list for
>> all the helpful advice. I'll post some pics soon.
>>
>> That said, I need a new cheap headlight.  I'll put a generator hub and
>> a light on it someday, but for now - money must be saved.  I tried to
>> put on my Planet Bike light but it wouldn't fit around the moustache
>> bars, the cable which runs under the tape, and some pretty thick
>> leather tape.  If any of you have been through this issue - what light
>> did you settle on?  Something under $30 ideally.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
>>
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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread JoelMatthews

> My Ram, and QB have drop bars, Noodles, as they are road/ bike path
> bikes, and anything longer than 2 hours I need multiple hand
> positions. I'm also riding at higher speeds, and being aero is more
> important than when I'm touring or going to work.

Reiteratint that bars are a personal choice - it is not crrect to say
Alba do not have multi-hand positions.

I do not load my alba bars with a bunch of junk. Even if I did, there
are several comfortable places to hold the bars on tours.  In any
event, in my experience I spent 90% of my tours on the tops when I
used to use drops.

Finally, you can go in an aero position on Alba bars.  Maybe not full
out racing bike aero, but who goes full out racing bike aero with 30
pounds of kit anyway?

On Aug 27, 11:51 am, Michael Rivers  wrote:
> I look at the Alba/Moustache/Noodle as a range of bars for a range of
> positions.
>
> My Alba bike is a Kogswell P/R with fenders and a front basket for
> commuting and trips to the market.  Although I can use the front of
> the bar to get more aero, it is only for brief periods, and mostly I'm
> sitting upright with my hands on the end of the bar. Trips are always
> under an hour.
>
> My 'stache touring bike is an Atlantis wanna-be (1985 steel trek MTB,
> 650b) that has bar end shifters, and I like to be forward for when I'm
> on gravel and single track with loaded panniers.  I can sit up,
> relatively, for short periods of time with my hands on the ends of the
> bars, but is isn't as comfortable as the Alba bars. Woodchipper bars
> are another version that fit into this category.
>
> My Ram, and QB have drop bars, Noodles, as they are road/ bike path
> bikes, and anything longer than 2 hours I need multiple hand
> positions. I'm also riding at higher speeds, and being aero is more
> important than when I'm touring or going to work.

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[RBW] Re: OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread JoelMatthews

Great pic of one happy rider!  Thanks for sharing.

On Aug 27, 11:43 am, Eduardo Rosas  wrote:
> I thought people on here might have had a similar proud parent moment!
> My son asked me this am; so are we taking the bike again to school!
> This is his first week of Kindergarten, a big boy now. His school is
> only about 1 mile away and it sure is nice to skip the drop off/pick
> up lines!
>
> Anyway Happy Friday!
>
> Pics of his rig:http://tinyurl.com/2em8fct

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[RBW] Re: OT: Happy Commuter

I especially like his welded on double-tube bash guard so dad can bash
some sick boulders during the commute.  Epic.  That kid's gonna
shred.

On Aug 27, 10:00 am, JoelMatthews  wrote:
> Great pic of one happy rider!  Thanks for sharing.
>
> On Aug 27, 11:43 am, Eduardo Rosas  wrote:
>
> > I thought people on here might have had a similar proud parent moment!
> > My son asked me this am; so are we taking the bike again to school!
> > This is his first week of Kindergarten, a big boy now. His school is
> > only about 1 mile away and it sure is nice to skip the drop off/pick
> > up lines!
>
> > Anyway Happy Friday!
>
> > Pics of his rig:http://tinyurl.com/2em8fct
>
>

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[RBW] Re: The final frame drawing lesson is up

I've saved 10 different PDFs.

On Aug 27, 9:24 am, Philip Williamson 
wrote:
> There are 12, right?
>
>  Philip
>
> On Aug 26, 5:59 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > Didn't quite end with the flourish that I might have worked myself up
> > to expect.  Anyway, pull down all the PDF's and go through it if
> > you've been waiting.  Grant says he'll pull them down, for reasons
> > that are not obvious to me.
>
> > What I drew was a 650B road/brevet bike.  It look a LOT like a 58cm
> > Saluki/Hilsen.  The only differences worth noting are that I used a
> > hair more top tube upslope than the AHH.  Also, if I had a custom
> > built, mine would be 130mm spaced, and I'd spec lighter tubing and
> > fewer braze-ons.
>
> > When Grant revealed that he ordered 10 650B 58cm Hilsens, though, I
> > took that as a nudge to just buy one of those.  That's what I'm saving
> > up for now as a next Riv.
>
> > The next frame drawing project I'm going to do is superimpose all my
> > bikes on top of each other, including the captain end of my tandem.
> > It'll be interesting to see how they all line up in the relative
> > arrangement of my three contact points: feet, butt, hands.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] OT: Happy Commuter

Very cute -- reminds me of when I'd pull my daughter around town in a trailer.

Someone ought to start a RBWlist/Boblist photo page for bike children.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Eduardo Rosas  wrote:
> I thought people on here might have had a similar proud parent moment!
> My son asked me this am; so are we taking the bike again to school!
> This is his first week of Kindergarten, a big boy now. His school is
> only about 1 mile away and it sure is nice to skip the drop off/pick
> up lines!
>
> Anyway Happy Friday!
>
> Pics of his rig: http://tinyurl.com/2em8fct
>
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[RBW] Re: The ultimate compact double (IMO)

They are dropping in price..

On Aug 19, 9:38 pm, rperks  wrote:
> The gray is the bead blasted finish.  Nice, but kind of contrasty with
> the polished or black rings.  Functionally the same though, I have
> sets of both
>
> I have been tempted by the 177.5 since they were listed.  The price is
> a little high for my blood.  If somebody here gets them, and decides
> they are a little too long I will trade for silver or bead blasted
> 175..
>
> Rob
>
> On Aug 19, 1:38 pm, "XO-1.org Rough Riders" 
> wrote:
>
> > I have never seen that odd gray finish before on those cranks.
>
> > That is my all-time favorite crank, too, though. I have a mint double
> > set on my XO-1 and a well used triple set on my steel Moots ATB.
>
> > - Chris Kostman
> > La Jolla, CAhttp://www.XO-1.orghttp://www.adventurecorps.com
>
> > On Aug 19, 1:15 pm, MichaelH  wrote:
>
> > > Peter White sells the TA in that configuration.  I have switched to
> > > the White Ind. VBC with a 44/30 set up and love it.  You can also go
> > > down to 22.  A great crank, musa.
>
> > > White also makes a crank, sold by DaVinci bicycles,  that is silver,
> > > and like the TA comes in a choice of bcd & arm lengths. It has a low Q
> > > (requires only 103 bb). It can be run as a dbl or triple.  I run the
> > > triple on both my all purpose ebisu and tandem and like the crank very
> > > much.
>
> > > michael
>
> > > On Aug 19, 2:13 pm, William  wrote:
>
> > > > OK, well it's my favorite compact double that I've used.  The Sugino
> > > > made Ritchey Logic 5-arm 94/58 bolt circle crankset is super strong,
> > > > super stiff, nice and light, very low Q, and you can go all the way
> > > > down to a 22 with a triple and a 29 with a double.  These are
> > > > especially good for me, because I run 172.5mm arms on all my bikes
> > > > which these sometimes are available in.
>
> > > > I saw this set on ebay, being sold by one of my favorite ebay sellers,
> > > > in the 100x more rare length of 177.5!  One of you tall folks could
> > > > run these with a 29/46 and an 11-32 in back and you'd be all set.
>
> > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330460694179&ssPag...Hide
> > > > quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: The final frame drawing lesson is up

2010-08-27 Thread Bill Connell

Yes, i ended up with 12. Just last night i compiled the pages, bought
some big graph paper and gave it a try. It's a very interesting lesson
in the considerations, much more to it than the 2 basic angles. I'm
going to do a little more research to understand rake/trail and how it
looks on paper - i think i have it straight, but maybe not. I'm used
to thinking in terms of trail rather than rake.

Now that i've been through it once, i'm going to draw up a couple more
to play with different angles and TT slopes, it's a fun exercise.


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Philip Williamson
 wrote:
> There are 12, right?
>
>  Philip
>
> On Aug 26, 5:59 pm, William  wrote:
>> Didn't quite end with the flourish that I might have worked myself up
>> to expect.  Anyway, pull down all the PDF's and go through it if
>> you've been waiting.  Grant says he'll pull them down, for reasons
>> that are not obvious to me.
>>
>> What I drew was a 650B road/brevet bike.  It look a LOT like a 58cm
>> Saluki/Hilsen.  The only differences worth noting are that I used a
>> hair more top tube upslope than the AHH.  Also, if I had a custom
>> built, mine would be 130mm spaced, and I'd spec lighter tubing and
>> fewer braze-ons.
>>
>> When Grant revealed that he ordered 10 650B 58cm Hilsens, though, I
>> took that as a nudge to just buy one of those.  That's what I'm saving
>> up for now as a next Riv.
>>
>> The next frame drawing project I'm going to do is superimpose all my
>> bikes on top of each other, including the captain end of my tandem.
>> It'll be interesting to see how they all line up in the relative
>> arrangement of my three contact points: feet, butt, hands.
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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread Garth


You just gotta try Albatross bars to know for yourself.  They are
fun . I love the 56cm width. and there is no drop bar that wide! I
had some 52cm dirt Drop bars, but they were only 46cm at the brakes,
so I gifted them to another.

You don't have to limit your hand positions at all!!  I have about
12-13 inches of usable space to roam. I use Tektro bar end brake
levers and thumbshifters, seen here.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11316...@n04/3645057344/in/set-72157624156809417/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/11316...@n04/3644420885/in/set-72157624156809417/

I suppose if bar end brake levers were not made ... I wouldn't use
this bar either, as I hate the standard brake lever congestion on the
bars. ..  but . . . they do make them  and they are perfect for
me.

Aerodynamics?  That's just mind worry. Do you think the Hawk or the
Eagle or any other bird worries about aerodynamics ?   They just do
what they do without concern for those around them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Garth  wrote:
>
> Aerodynamics?  That's just mind worry. Do you think the Hawk or the
> Eagle or any other bird worries about aerodynamics ?   They just do
> what they do without concern for those around them.
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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread stevep33

Check out the Jitensha flat bar (by Nitto). It's a great "flat"
handlebar with a moderate backsweep.  Perfect for brisk rides around
town where sitting up a little bit is more fun.

I'm all for drops for long or fast rides; gives lots of hand/body
positions.

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[RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

2010-08-27 Thread Garth


  Hey Patrick .. I'm laughing !   Sometimes the context, depth and
spirit of what we write gets lost in this very limited form of
communication we call the written word.   Well . probably most of
the time it does !

I don't mean to offend anyone here. I may ... but I can't control
that. Sometimes the unconscious things we ALL do need to be brought to
light.  One of those things is worry about keeping up with the great
unknown. like speed . Fast is never fast enough! A race that we
lose every single time. We humans think we're so smart, but we're
really rather stupid. The mind gets lauded for it's great
discoveries  yet we are all tortured by it every day with our
impatience ... and there nothing we can do to stop it, despite our
best efforts.   I guess that is kind of heavy! . but it doesn't
need to be . it can be liberating . seeing the craziness for
what it is. We may experience it ... but we don't have to BE it!

I learned all this while riding my Albatross bars :)

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Re: [RBW] OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread Rob Harrison

Sweet! He is clearly very proud and happy!

We had that moment just two years ago. :) Like you we live about a
mile from our son's school. Last year we split the commute between
riding with him on his own bike and taking the Metro bus. The only
issue we've had is that often other parents pick him up for a playdate
at their house and forget to get his bicycle. So...we added another
option, a Bike Friday Triple Traveler: It converts to a tandem, which is the configuration we'll probably
get the most use out of. Or I suppose we could pick up one of his
friends too! As of tomorrow we'll have been car-free for a year, so
it's nice to have options.

Rob in Seattle

On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Eduardo Rosas wrote:

I thought people on here might have had a similar proud parent moment!
My son asked me this am; so are we taking the bike again to school!
This is his first week of Kindergarten, a big boy now. His school is
only about 1 mile away and it sure is nice to skip the drop off/pick
up lines!

Anyway Happy Friday!

Pics of his rig: http://tinyurl.com/2em8fct

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[RBW] Re: OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread Eduardo Rosas

Rob,
That triple tandem is SWEET! Although that might make me have to pull
the wife and the kid! :)


On Aug 27, 11:12 am, Rob Harrison  wrote:
> Sweet! He is clearly very proud and happy!
>
> We had that moment just two years ago. :) Like you we live about a  
> mile from our son's school. Last year we split the commute between  
> riding with him on his own bike and taking the Metro bus. The only  
> issue we've had is that often other parents pick him up for a playdate  
> at their house and forget to get his bicycle. So...we added another  
> option, a Bike Friday Triple Traveler: 
>   > It converts to a tandem, which is the configuration we'll probably  
> get the most use out of. Or I suppose we could pick up one of his  
> friends too! As of tomorrow we'll have been car-free for a year, so  
> it's nice to have options.
>
> Rob in Seattle
>
> On Aug 27, 2010, at 9:43 AM, Eduardo Rosas wrote:
>
> > I thought people on here might have had a similar proud parent moment!
> > My son asked me this am; so are we taking the bike again to school!
> > This is his first week of Kindergarten, a big boy now. His school is
> > only about 1 mile away and it sure is nice to skip the drop off/pick
> > up lines!
>
> > Anyway Happy Friday!
>
> > Pics of his rig:http://tinyurl.com/2em8fct
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drop Bars vs. Non-drops

No offense at all; I suppose you were playing on "Albatross" the bird
and "Albatross" the bar, and I thought it was funny.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 12:08 PM, Garth  wrote:
>
>  Hey Patrick .. I'm laughing !   Sometimes the context, depth and
> spirit of what we write gets lost in this very limited form of
> communication we call the written word.   Well . probably most of
> the time it does !
>
> I don't mean to offend anyone here. I may ... but I can't control
> that. Sometimes the unconscious things we ALL do need to be brought to
> light.  One of those things is worry about keeping up with the great
> unknown. like speed . Fast is never fast enough! A race that we
> lose every single time. We humans think we're so smart, but we're
> really rather stupid. The mind gets lauded for it's great
> discoveries  yet we are all tortured by it every day with our
> impatience ... and there nothing we can do to stop it, despite our
> best efforts.   I guess that is kind of heavy! . but it doesn't
> need to be . it can be liberating . seeing the craziness for
> what it is. We may experience it ... but we don't have to BE it!
>
> I learned all this while riding my Albatross bars :)
>
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[RBW] Re: More uses for John's Irish strap

2010-08-27 Thread John Bennett

Wow. Looks great. And I agree with Jose: Nice watch.

John "Irish Strap" Bennett @ Rivendell

On Aug 27, 7:32 am, jinxed  wrote:
> I made a watch strap.
>
> I had an old nato strap that came apart years ago but I saved all the
> hardware. Cleaning out my desk drawer I found it again. Curious if I
> had any webbing laying around to remake it, I had the brain fart of
> checking out the width of the irish straps. Bingo! It was the perfect
> 18mm width. I pulled out the sewing machine and cobbled it together.
> My plan is to use it on the Mondaine RR watch I plan to buy with my
> dividend...hopefully they will still be carrying them by then. Till
> then it resides on my old Timex Auto. Unfortunately it needs a
> service.
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4931657723_2ed0b7fbcd_b.jpg

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[RBW] Re: More uses for John's Irish strap

2010-08-27 Thread John Bennett

Cool. I have used the 1 meter for a belt, and when I only have the
shortie around, I just thread it around two belt loops, tightened it,
and managed to hold my pants up *that* way, too.

John "Irish Strap" Bennett @ RBW

On Aug 27, 9:02 am, Lee  wrote:
> On Aug 26, 10:27 pm, jose  wrote:
>
> > My wife forgot a belt, so guess what one strap is being used for?
> > Looks good too.
>
> Same! It's my fave riding belt:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/24xpf4k
>
> Happy near weekend,
> Lee

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RE: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange

2010-08-27 Thread Steve Palincsar

On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 08:53 -0400, Frederick, Steve wrote:
> If it were me (tho perhaps this falls outside your budget) I'd order
> up a Roadeo with Rambouillet orange paint...

Do you remember how difficult it was to match Rambouillet orange for
touch-up purposes?  It wasn't just orange, it also had a pearl layer.



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RE: [RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange

2010-08-27 Thread Frederick, Steve

Sure is pretty though...B-)

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On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 08:53 -0400, Frederick, Steve wrote:
> If it were me (tho perhaps this falls outside your budget) I'd order
> up a Roadeo with Rambouillet orange paint...

Do you remember how difficult it was to match Rambouillet orange for
touch-up purposes?  It wasn't just orange, it also had a pearl layer.



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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread Rob Harrison

It was Richard Vallens Lovemarks letter that really sold me on the  
idea of the Bike Friday tandem: 


He writes:

"My Bike Friday Family Tandem is a flying carpet of great magic, the  
perfect solution to the eternal quest of doing something with your  
kids where you can both have fun and truly communicate. My rides with  
my son (14 now, 8 when we bought the bike) on our Family Tandem are  
the BEST, absolutely the best memories he and I have. We’ve had a  
complete Blast! on this bike – physically close enough to talk and  
hear well (and conspire), with the bicycling effortlessly filling any  
gaps in conversation. I’ve learned everything about my son by being  
close enough to hear as his thoughts and impressions burble out during  
long Family Tandem rides. So many times, it was just us in our own  
world, father and son on the Red Bike. Bike Friday is my Lovemark.  
Richard Vallens, USA"


Rob in Seattle


On Aug 27, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Eduardo Rosas wrote:


Rob,
That triple tandem is SWEET! Although that might make me have to pull
the wife and the kid! :)


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Re: [RBW] Re: OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread Dave Lloyd

Here's our every day ride to school (my son Gus and I are on the Big Dummy).

http://videos.stltoday.com/p/video?id=14182075

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[RBW] craigslist: stolen rom in portland

Just saw this:
   http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/1922115953.html

Don't know the author but for y'all in portland it would be worth
keeping your eyes open.

and maybe keep your ulock on a slingshot. :)

-sv

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[RBW] I wanna see another Renovelo!

and another
and another

I'm sure they're not making profit on them, but the cashflow couldn't
hurt

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[RBW] Re: OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread RoadieRyan

AWESOME creating bike commuters one cute kindergartner at a time ;-)

My daughter is entering second grade and we live about 2.5 miles from
school but unfortunately it includes a rather substantial hill on the
way home.  Still she has really gotten into the bike this summer so we
will have to incorporate some "Ride in, car home" trips this year

On Aug 27, 9:43 am, Eduardo Rosas  wrote:
> I thought people on here might have had a similar proud parent moment!
> My son asked me this am; so are we taking the bike again to school!
> This is his first week of Kindergarten, a big boy now. His school is
> only about 1 mile away and it sure is nice to skip the drop off/pick
> up lines!
>
> Anyway Happy Friday!
>
> Pics of his rig:http://tinyurl.com/2em8fct

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[RBW] Re: craigslist: stolen rom in portland

2010-08-27 Thread Mike

That totally sucks. I've seen a few folks on Rom's around town. I hope
this poster gets their bike back.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange

2010-08-27 Thread Mike

Maybe the SOMA/Rivendell San Marcos will be available later this fall.
Sure, it's not a Rambouillet but it looks to be a nice affordable
alternative.

--mike

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[RBW] Re: OT: Happy Commuter

2010-08-27 Thread Eduardo Rosas

Dave Sweet dummy! I like the seats back there on the xtracycle.  My
LBS has a Big Dummy with a stoke monkey electric assist and my son
makes the owner give him a ride every time we stop by.

On Aug 27, 1:57 pm, Dave Lloyd  wrote:
> Here's our every day ride to school (my son Gus and I are on the Big Dummy).
>
> http://videos.stltoday.com/p/video?id=14182075
>
> --dlloyd

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[RBW] Re: wanted: Rambouillet ~ 58cm in orange

2010-08-27 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery

The Hillborne orange isn't too far off.

On Aug 27, 2:40 pm, Steve Palincsar  wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 08:53 -0400, Frederick, Steve wrote:
> > If it were me (tho perhaps this falls outside your budget) I'd order
> > up a Roadeo with Rambouillet orange paint...
>
> Do you remember how difficult it was to match Rambouillet orange for
> touch-up purposes?  It wasn't just orange, it also had a pearl layer.

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[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

2010-08-27 Thread velomann

A midge-like bar in silver? Sweet! Now if it accepts bar-ends (and why
wouldn't it?) I can stop my futile searching for a vintage dirt drop
bar.

On Aug 26, 7:32 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> I'm waiting for  that new one from Ragley called the Luxy. It was
> designed by the Midge designer after getting all the input on the
> midge/junebug/wtb/woodchipper and it comes in silver.
> goin' on the new dropbar 29er.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Aug 26, 6:49 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> > FWIW, Origin 8 has one they call the Gary Bar.  It's real cheap through your
> > LBS.
>
> > Only negative is that it does not accept bar ends without some slight
> > modification .
>
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, jandrews_nyc 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
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[RBW] Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

2010-08-27 Thread Mike

Interesting.

http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf

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[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

2010-08-27 Thread doug peterson

Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This diagonal
thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
broken.  Ami I missing something here?

dougP

On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
> Interesting.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf

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[RBW] Re: More uses for John's Irish strap

2010-08-27 Thread doug peterson

I can attest that it's load rated to hold a small window air
conditioner in place.  Need to find a permanent solution so I can get
my straps back.  Or I could just buy some more straps; that's a better
idea.

dougP

On Aug 27, 12:21 pm, John Bennett  wrote:
> Cool. I have used the 1 meter for a belt, and when I only have the
> shortie around, I just thread it around two belt loops, tightened it,
> and managed to hold my pants up *that* way, too.
>
> John "Irish Strap" Bennett @ RBW
>
> On Aug 27, 9:02 am, Lee  wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Aug 26, 10:27 pm, jose  wrote:
>
> > > My wife forgot a belt, so guess what one strap is being used for?
> > > Looks good too.
>
> > Same! It's my fave riding belt:
>
> >http://tinyurl.com/24xpf4k
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

2010-08-27 Thread James Valiensi

That diagonal - I wish he did it like the original Breezer's. That would be 
cool.
On Aug 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:

> Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This diagonal
> thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
> has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
> subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
> broken.  Ami I missing something here?
> 
> dougP
> 
> On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
>> Interesting.
>> 
>> http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

I'm intrigued.  For those of you following along at home, I bought a Karate
Monkey on the cheap, but might be persuaded to trade it in to get a Hunq.
I'm between sizes, and both 54 & 58 have compromises for me.  Leaning toward
a 54 if I can get the bars up high enough to run drops.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM, James Valiensi  wrote:

> That diagonal - I wish he did it like the original Breezer's. That would be
> cool.
> On Aug 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
>
> > Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This diagonal
> > thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
> > has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
> > subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
> > broken.  Ami I missing something here?
> >
> > dougP
> >
> > On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
> >> Interesting.
> >>
> >> http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf
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[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

2010-08-27 Thread Ian Dickson

I'm 5'11", I ordered a 54 Hunq, and I'm going to put drops on it.
Once I have it, I'll post pictures and take measurements if you like.

On Aug 28, 10:43 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I'm intrigued.  For those of you following along at home, I bought a Karate
> Monkey on the cheap, but might be persuaded to trade it in to get a Hunq.
> I'm between sizes, and both 54 & 58 have compromises for me.  Leaning toward
> a 54 if I can get the bars up high enough to run drops.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM, James Valiensi  wrote:
> > That diagonal - I wish he did it like the original Breezer's. That would be
> > cool.
> > On Aug 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
>
> > > Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This diagonal
> > > thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
> > > has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
> > > subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
> > > broken.  Ami I missing something here?
>
> > > dougP
>
> > > On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > >> Interesting.
>
> > >>http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf
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Re: [RBW] Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Mike  wrote:
> Interesting.
>
> http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf
>

The simpleone is intriguing. First suggestions:

1. nuke the logos from the cranks
2. nuke the logos from the hubs
3. Get the polish/anodizing on the hubs and cranks to match. Doesn't
matter which one, really, as long as they match.

 From the pictures at least the cranks seem like they are a
dark-tinted polished aluminum? Not a look I'd want, personally and
that mismatched to the hubs just makes it look less like a unified
whole and more like a hodgepodge.

For a sample, that is, of course, no problem - but for the final
version I'd hope that would be all smoothed out.

-sv

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[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

I like the Diagonal tube... but the 54 is the best fit for me, which
has a single top tube.still thinking a disc brake would be a good
thing with those big fat tires too.

I'm more interested in the Simpleone at this point. I'll have to wait
until later next week to see what's under the wrapping.  I'm OK
waiting as I'm driving up to the Bay area to pick up my "new to me"
green Ram.

~Mike~


On Aug 27, 8:43 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I'm intrigued.  For those of you following along at home, I bought a Karate
> Monkey on the cheap, but might be persuaded to trade it in to get a Hunq.
> I'm between sizes, and both 54 & 58 have compromises for me.  Leaning toward
> a 54 if I can get the bars up high enough to run drops.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM, James Valiensi  wrote:
> > That diagonal - I wish he did it like the original Breezer's. That would be
> > cool.
> > On Aug 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
>
> > > Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This diagonal
> > > thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
> > > has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
> > > subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
> > > broken.  Ami I missing something here?
>
> > > dougP
>
> > > On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > >> Interesting.
>
> > >>http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf
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[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

yea baby! and yes it works with bar end shifters. and it's Silver!
here is a linky to a proto of the bar  
http://singularcycles.posterous.com/ragley-luxy-bar-latest

it would look great on the Hunqua too.

~Mike~

On Aug 27, 6:43 pm, velomann  wrote:
> A midge-like bar in silver? Sweet! Now if it accepts bar-ends (and why
> wouldn't it?) I can stop my futile searching for a vintage dirt drop
> bar.
>
> On Aug 26, 7:32 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm waiting for  that new one from Ragley called the Luxy. It was
> > designed by the Midge designer after getting all the input on the
> > midge/junebug/wtb/woodchipper and it comes in silver.
> > goin' on the new dropbar 29er.
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Aug 26, 6:49 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > FWIW, Origin 8 has one they call the Gary Bar.  It's real cheap through 
> > > your
> > > LBS.
>
> > > Only negative is that it does not accept bar ends without some slight
> > > modification .
>
> > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, jandrews_nyc 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Hi,
> > > > Does anyone have any of these trail-type flared-out drop bars they are
> > > > tired of looking at?
> > > > Jason
>
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[RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

2010-08-27 Thread rperks

Disc brakes come with good and bad, I have been an advocate, but I
think the dishing of the wheels from the left side opens up greater
inherent weaknesses.  If the canti brakes are not enough, or the flex
in the stays is a bit much you can always throw a booster arch on it.
It is not like you could overbuild the thing any more.

The simple one does seem good in concept, it will be interesting to
see where the price falls for tiwan stuff, makes me regret not
grabbing a quickbean in any color, kept hoping something better than
silver would be next.

Rob

On Aug 27, 8:54 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> I like the Diagonal tube... but the 54 is the best fit for me, which
> has a single top tube.still thinking a disc brake would be a good
> thing with those big fat tires too.
>
> I'm more interested in the Simpleone at this point. I'll have to wait
> until later next week to see what's under the wrapping.  I'm OK
> waiting as I'm driving up to the Bay area to pick up my "new to me"
> green Ram.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Aug 27, 8:43 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
>
>
> > I'm intrigued.  For those of you following along at home, I bought a Karate
> > Monkey on the cheap, but might be persuaded to trade it in to get a Hunq.
> > I'm between sizes, and both 54 & 58 have compromises for me.  Leaning toward
> > a 54 if I can get the bars up high enough to run drops.
>
> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM, James Valiensi  wrote:
> > > That diagonal - I wish he did it like the original Breezer's. That would 
> > > be
> > > cool.
> > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
>
> > > > Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This diagonal
> > > > thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
> > > > has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
> > > > subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
> > > > broken.  Ami I missing something here?
>
> > > > dougP
>
> > > > On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > > >> Interesting.
>
> > > >>http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

Hey Ian, great to hear you have one in route!  I'm 6ft, and thinking the 54
would be best, especially if the TT is a bit longer than originally planned
(that was a mentioned change).  The 58 gives long enough reach and ability
to get the bars up real high, but would have very minimal stand-over which I
need for those off-camber trail dabs!  Plus the 54 doesn't have the
horizontal tube, which isn't terrible, just unnecessary for me.

So yeah, post away when you get it, it'll be great to see!

Thanks!
David


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:48 PM, Ian Dickson  wrote:

> I'm 5'11", I ordered a 54 Hunq, and I'm going to put drops on it.
> Once I have it, I'll post pictures and take measurements if you like.
>
> On Aug 28, 10:43 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > I'm intrigued.  For those of you following along at home, I bought a
> Karate
> > Monkey on the cheap, but might be persuaded to trade it in to get a Hunq.
> > I'm between sizes, and both 54 & 58 have compromises for me.  Leaning
> toward
> > a 54 if I can get the bars up high enough to run drops.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM, James Valiensi 
> wrote:
> > > That diagonal - I wish he did it like the original Breezer's. That
> would be
> > > cool.
> > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
> >
> > > > Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This diagonal
> > > > thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
> > > > has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
> > > > subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
> > > > broken.  Ami I missing something here?
> >
> > > > dougP
> >
> > > > On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > > >> Interesting.
> >
> > > >>
> http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/352/original_aug28knothole.pdf
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[RBW] Dario Pegoretti film

2010-08-27 Thread Michael Mann

I know this is late notice, but the newest film on the Rapha site -
available to view TODAY ONLY - is, IMHO, the best of the three. It features
the master frame builder Dario Pegoretti in his shop and in conversation.
Check it out. Quick.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Hunqa and SO update on Riv site!

Agreed.  Nothing wrong with discs, probably even better for loaded descents
(heat), but weaker wheels and over-built forks don't intrigue me too much.
V-brakes really stop pretty darn good.  So do cantis for that matter! :-)

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:04 PM, rperks  wrote:

> Disc brakes come with good and bad, I have been an advocate, but I
> think the dishing of the wheels from the left side opens up greater
> inherent weaknesses.  If the canti brakes are not enough, or the flex
> in the stays is a bit much you can always throw a booster arch on it.
> It is not like you could overbuild the thing any more.
>
> The simple one does seem good in concept, it will be interesting to
> see where the price falls for tiwan stuff, makes me regret not
> grabbing a quickbean in any color, kept hoping something better than
> silver would be next.
>
> Rob
>
> On Aug 27, 8:54 pm, Michael_S  wrote:
> > I like the Diagonal tube... but the 54 is the best fit for me, which
> > has a single top tube.still thinking a disc brake would be a good
> > thing with those big fat tires too.
> >
> > I'm more interested in the Simpleone at this point. I'll have to wait
> > until later next week to see what's under the wrapping.  I'm OK
> > waiting as I'm driving up to the Bay area to pick up my "new to me"
> > green Ram.
> >
> > ~Mike~
> >
> > On Aug 27, 8:43 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm intrigued.  For those of you following along at home, I bought a
> Karate
> > > Monkey on the cheap, but might be persuaded to trade it in to get a
> Hunq.
> > > I'm between sizes, and both 54 & 58 have compromises for me.  Leaning
> toward
> > > a 54 if I can get the bars up high enough to run drops.
> >
> > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 8:06 PM, James Valiensi 
> wrote:
> > > > That diagonal - I wish he did it like the original Breezer's. That
> would be
> > > > cool.
> > > > On Aug 27, 2010, at 8:00 PM, doug peterson wrote:
> >
> > > > > Interesting, yes; but also weird looking (the Hunqa).  This
> diagonal
> > > > > thing strikes me as a solution in search of a problem.  My Atlantis
> > > > > has been thoroughly over-loaded, abused, misused and otherwise
> > > > > subjected to loading indignities, and it hasn't complained, bent or
> > > > > broken.  Ami I missing something here?
> >
> > > > > dougP
> >
> > > > > On Aug 27, 7:29 pm, Mike  wrote:
> > > > >> Interesting.
> >
> > > > >>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

Are they going to be 25.4 or 31.8 only?  I think a bar like that is missing
from Rivendell's offerings.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Michael_S wrote:

> yea baby! and yes it works with bar end shifters. and it's Silver!
> here is a linky to a proto of the bar
> http://singularcycles.posterous.com/ragley-luxy-bar-latest
>
> it would look great on the Hunqua too.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Aug 27, 6:43 pm, velomann  wrote:
> > A midge-like bar in silver? Sweet! Now if it accepts bar-ends (and why
> > wouldn't it?) I can stop my futile searching for a vintage dirt drop
> > bar.
> >
> > On Aug 26, 7:32 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I'm waiting for  that new one from Ragley called the Luxy. It was
> > > designed by the Midge designer after getting all the input on the
> > > midge/junebug/wtb/woodchipper and it comes in silver.
> > > goin' on the new dropbar 29er.
> >
> > > ~Mike~
> >
> > > On Aug 26, 6:49 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >
> > > > FWIW, Origin 8 has one they call the Gary Bar.  It's real cheap
> through your
> > > > LBS.
> >
> > > > Only negative is that it does not accept bar ends without some slight
> > > > modification  >.
> >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, jandrews_nyc <
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> >
> > > > > Hi,
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> are
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Re: [RBW] Dario Pegoretti film

I'm waiting for it to buffer as I write, but what's the deal with the "today
only" thing?

That's overly precious from such an epic company.


On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Michael Mann  wrote:

> I know this is late notice, but the newest film on the Rapha site -
> available to view TODAY ONLY - is, IMHO, the best of the three. It features
> the master frame builder Dario Pegoretti in his shop and in conversation.
> Check it out. Quick.
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[RBW] Re: Dario Pegoretti film

2010-08-27 Thread Philip Williamson

Maybe they're going to sell DVDs. Maybe small windows of preciousness
is Internet 3.0
I don't know. I do think John Slawta and Dario Pegoretti should have a
reality show paint-off.

Surface decoration is so not my thing (ironic, as an artist).
I see Rapha has coined the term "roadwear," which I actually like. It
sounds like lampposts and bike lanes.

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On Aug 27, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> I'm waiting for it to buffer as I write, but what's the deal with the "today
> only" thing?
>
> That's overly precious from such an epic company.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Michael Mann  wrote:
> > I know this is late notice, but the newest film on the Rapha site -
> > available to view TODAY ONLY - is, IMHO, the best of the three. It features
> > the master frame builder Dario Pegoretti in his shop and in conversation.
> > Check it out. Quick.
> >http://www.rapha.cc/
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

my understanding is 31.8 only. Which does not leave any quill stem
options.  we will have to use one of those adapters  with a threadless
stem.

~Mike~

On Aug 27, 9:14 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> Are they going to be 25.4 or 31.8 only?  I think a bar like that is missing
> from Rivendell's offerings.
>
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Michael_S wrote:
>
>
>
>
> > yea baby! and yes it works with bar end shifters. and it's Silver!
> > here is a linky to a proto of the bar
> >http://singularcycles.posterous.com/ragley-luxy-bar-latest
>
> > it would look great on the Hunqua too.
>
> > ~Mike~
>
> > On Aug 27, 6:43 pm, velomann  wrote:
> > > A midge-like bar in silver? Sweet! Now if it accepts bar-ends (and why
> > > wouldn't it?) I can stop my futile searching for a vintage dirt drop
> > > bar.
>
> > > On Aug 26, 7:32 am, Michael_S  wrote:
>
> > > > I'm waiting for  that new one from Ragley called the Luxy. It was
> > > > designed by the Midge designer after getting all the input on the
> > > > midge/junebug/wtb/woodchipper and it comes in silver.
> > > > goin' on the new dropbar 29er.
>
> > > > ~Mike~
>
> > > > On Aug 26, 6:49 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
>
> > > > > FWIW, Origin 8 has one they call the Gary Bar.  It's real cheap
> > through your
> > > > > LBS.
>
> > > > > Only negative is that it does not accept bar ends without some slight
> > > > > modification  > >.
>
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, jandrews_nyc <
> > jasonaschwa...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > Does anyone have any of these trail-type flared-out drop bars they
> > are
> > > > > > tired of looking at?
> > > > > > Jason
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Re: [RBW] Re: Dario Pegoretti film

Ha!  Had to loook up who Slawta is.  That's funny!

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Philip Williamson <
philip.william...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Maybe they're going to sell DVDs. Maybe small windows of preciousness
> is Internet 3.0
> I don't know. I do think John Slawta and Dario Pegoretti should have a
> reality show paint-off.
>
> Surface decoration is so not my thing (ironic, as an artist).
> I see Rapha has coined the term "roadwear," which I actually like. It
> sounds like lampposts and bike lanes.
>
>  Philip (this is more OT than shaving) Williamson
> www.biketinker.com and www.philipwilliamson.com
>
> On Aug 27, 9:17 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > I'm waiting for it to buffer as I write, but what's the deal with the
> "today
> > only" thing?
> >
> > That's overly precious from such an epic company.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Michael Mann 
> wrote:
> > > I know this is late notice, but the newest film on the Rapha site -
> > > available to view TODAY ONLY - is, IMHO, the best of the three. It
> features
> > > the master frame builder Dario Pegoretti in his shop and in
> conversation.
> > > Check it out. Quick.
> > >http://www.rapha.cc/
> >
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: midge, junebug, woodchipper, etc

Kludgy.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Michael_S wrote:

> my understanding is 31.8 only. Which does not leave any quill stem
> options.  we will have to use one of those adapters  with a threadless
> stem.
>
> ~Mike~
>
> On Aug 27, 9:14 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > Are they going to be 25.4 or 31.8 only?  I think a bar like that is
> missing
> > from Rivendell's offerings.
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 9:03 PM, Michael_S  >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > yea baby! and yes it works with bar end shifters. and it's Silver!
> > > here is a linky to a proto of the bar
> > >http://singularcycles.posterous.com/ragley-luxy-bar-latest
> >
> > > it would look great on the Hunqua too.
> >
> > > ~Mike~
> >
> > > On Aug 27, 6:43 pm, velomann  wrote:
> > > > A midge-like bar in silver? Sweet! Now if it accepts bar-ends (and
> why
> > > > wouldn't it?) I can stop my futile searching for a vintage dirt drop
> > > > bar.
> >
> > > > On Aug 26, 7:32 am, Michael_S  wrote:
> >
> > > > > I'm waiting for  that new one from Ragley called the Luxy. It was
> > > > > designed by the Midge designer after getting all the input on the
> > > > > midge/junebug/wtb/woodchipper and it comes in silver.
> > > > > goin' on the new dropbar 29er.
> >
> > > > > ~Mike~
> >
> > > > > On Aug 26, 6:49 am, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >
> > > > > > FWIW, Origin 8 has one they call the Gary Bar.  It's real cheap
> > > through your
> > > > > > LBS.
> >
> > > > > > Only negative is that it does not accept bar ends without some
> slight
> > > > > > modification <
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3143007318/
> > > >.
> >
> > > > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 8:27 AM, jandrews_nyc <
> > > jasonaschwa...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > Does anyone have any of these trail-type flared-out drop bars
> they
> > > are
> > > > > > > tired of looking at?
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