[RBW] Re: generator powered Christmas lights

2010-12-08 Thread Allan in Portland
I forget which hub he had, but I helped a friend do this a few years
ago. He got a string of lights from Ikea or somewhere and just wired
them up. I said we have a 50-50 chance of getting the polarity right
on the first try, which we did. Actually we had a 100% chance, as the
generators are unrectified AC. Yeah, the lights blinked a lot at low
speed. You could get rid of about half the blink with a trip to Radio
Shack for one of these: 
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062580

Good luck,
-Allan

On Dec 8, 3:30 pm, Bill Rhea  wrote:
> Has anybody out there ever converted a string of Christmas lights for
> low voltage power, like that produced by a dynohub?  How cool would
> that be?  The output of my Shimano DH-3N80 hub is 6 volts, 3 watts.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> -br

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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Allan in Portland
I know I said not to tell, but was the color what settled it for
you? :-) Price sure is nice.

Enjoy!
-Allan

On Dec 8, 2:08 pm, jim phillips  wrote:
> Thanks guys! I have the answer! I am getting the bikes in the following order:
>
> Sam Hillborne
>
> A.Homer Hilson
>
> Roadeo
>
> Atlantis
>
> After that ...
>
> Thanks again!
>
> best,
>
> JimP
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:57:52 -0800
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
> > From: montclairbob...@gmail.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
>
> > THAT is the best answer so far
>
> > Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
> > panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
> > styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
> > testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
> > imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
> > course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
> > the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
>
> > Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
> > May...
>
> > BB
>
> > On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> > > Make it easy-just get one of each!
>
> > > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Alan-
> > > > Great insights-
> > > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did -
> > > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying 
> > > > to
> > > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Michael D.
> > > > Walnut Creek
>
> > > > Michael DiBenedetto
> > > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
> > > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> > > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
> > > > 925-899-2785
>
> > > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
> > > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>
> > > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
> > > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
> > > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
> > > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
> > > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
>
> > > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
> > > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> > > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
> > > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
> > > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
>
> > > > > Best,
> > > > > -Allan
>
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[RBW] Re: Who makes inexpensive custom quill stems?

2010-12-08 Thread Earl Grey
Thanks,

I have looked before, but everything that I have found is maddeningly
short (= not tall). Indeed what I had on the bile was one of those
short UNO jobs...

Gernot

On Dec 9, 6:38 am, cm  wrote:
> I would search Ebay for something longer/ taller. I dont imagine there
> is a lot of demand for these stems, so I imagine they go pretty cheap.
>
> here is an 
> example:http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Uno-Bike-Quill-Stem-130mm-15-for-1-1-4-HS-Pur...
>
> (sorry no tiny url)
>
> I have a bike with a threaded 1 1/4 and had a tough time finding
> something good enough.
>
> Good Luck!
>
> Cheers!
> cm
>
> On Dec 8, 3:49 pm, James Valiensi  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
> > You could use an adapter to run a standard quill stem in your 1-1/4" fork. 
> > I've made them before.
> > Cheers!
> > On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ginz wrote:
>
> > > Might be cheapest to replace the fork.  :)
>
> > > On Dec 7, 9:10 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> > >> Hi,
>
> > >> I have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx monster cross in addition to my Sam that
> > >> is getting more and more rivvish by the year, but is a size too small.
> > >> Since the Fisher has a 1 1/4 (!) threaded steerer, finding tall (or
> > >> any) replacement stems is nigh impossible. I bought a Nitto threaded
> > >> to threadless converter, but it is disgracefully short, and thus
> > >> doesn't solve the problem. Seems like a custom 1 1/4 quill stem or
> > >> selling the frame are the only options. Anyone have any
> > >> recommendations for a frame builder that makes inexpensive custom
> > >> quill stems? (It's a cheap frame, so I don't want to throw $200 at the
> > >> problem.) I could supply a donor quill if that is an issue...
>
> > >> Thanks,
>
> > >> Gernot
>
> > >> PS: Here is a pic:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/
> > >> With 35 degree, 110mm stem porteur bars are too low and too close, and
> > >> Noodles or Moustaches are too low and too far away.
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[RBW] Re: Who makes inexpensive custom quill stems?

2010-12-08 Thread Earl Grey
How advisable is it to ride of-road with a stem adaptor? Off-roading
is my main use for the bike these days.

Gernot

On Dec 9, 5:49 am, James Valiensi  wrote:
> Hi,
> You could use an adapter to run a standard quill stem in your 1-1/4" fork. 
> I've made them before.
> Cheers!
> On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ginz wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Might be cheapest to replace the fork.  :)
>
> > On Dec 7, 9:10 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx monster cross in addition to my Sam that
> >> is getting more and more rivvish by the year, but is a size too small.
> >> Since the Fisher has a 1 1/4 (!) threaded steerer, finding tall (or
> >> any) replacement stems is nigh impossible. I bought a Nitto threaded
> >> to threadless converter, but it is disgracefully short, and thus
> >> doesn't solve the problem. Seems like a custom 1 1/4 quill stem or
> >> selling the frame are the only options. Anyone have any
> >> recommendations for a frame builder that makes inexpensive custom
> >> quill stems? (It's a cheap frame, so I don't want to throw $200 at the
> >> problem.) I could supply a donor quill if that is an issue...
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Gernot
>
> >> PS: Here is a pic:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/
> >> With 35 degree, 110mm stem porteur bars are too low and too close, and
> >> Noodles or Moustaches are too low and too far away.
>
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[RBW] WTB Wooly Warm Sleeveless Vest

2010-12-08 Thread dean899
If you have a tweed wooly warm sleeveless vest you dont use or want to
get rid of please let me know.  if it has a few holes no worries.
Thanks

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RE: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread jim phillips

Thanks guys! I have the answer! I am getting the bikes in the following order:

Sam Hillborne

A.Homer Hilson

Roadeo

Atlantis

After that ...

Thanks again!


best,

JimP

> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 13:57:52 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
> From: montclairbob...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
> 
> THAT is the best answer so far
> 
> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
> 
> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
> May...
> 
> BB
> 
> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > Alan-
> > > Great insights-
> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did -
> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to
> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> > > Thanks
> > > Michael D.
> > > Walnut Creek
> >
> > > Michael DiBenedetto
> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
> > > 925-899-2785
> >
> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
> >
> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
> > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
> > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
> >
> > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
> > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
> > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
> > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
> >
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Allan
> >
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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question

2010-12-08 Thread JimP
Can you list all 7 in order? That would be very interesting!

Jim

On Dec 8, 8:10 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> Doug of course answered correctly. It's a trick question. The actual model in 
> the middle of the 7 if you list them is Sam Hillborne, but one's love of 
> one's own bike must over-ride that and one's own bike must be the center of 
> the universe. Hence, for Doug, the correct answer must be Atlantis. And in 
> the Peterson house, Atlantis is now a binary star!
>
> -James
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: doug peterson 
> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 4:49 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question
>
> >The correct answer is an Atlantis (why are you not surprised?).  No
> >worries off-road; hauls more junk than anyone should care to; and
> >wonderfully comfortable on the road.  I can't keep up with Rob on his
> >Roadeo but I blame old age for that shortcoming.
>
> >dougP
>
> >On Dec 8, 4:24 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> >> Easy one: if you place all the current Rivendell non-custom, multi-geared, 
> >> non-mixte models (and add in the Rambouillet - it has emeritus status I 
> >> say!) on a spectrum that runs from road bike to mountain bike...that's 7 
> >> models...the question is:
>
> >> Which model lies in the middle of the spectrum?
>
> >> Not a hard question, but I just think it's fun. I'd actually be more 
> >> interested to know how many listmembers had already figured this out in 
> >> their heads.
>
> >> -James
>
> >> p.s. Where will the San Marcos be? Between Roadeo and Ram or between Ram 
> >> and AHH?
>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> >From: doug peterson 
> >> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM
> >> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
>
> >> >I'm shocked, genuinely  shocked, that you guys are tossing out these
> >> >recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research!  How
> >> >can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with
> >> >the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly
> >> >exploring "...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges"
> >> >Sounds like a slice of heaven to me!  S24O, anyone?
>
> >> >dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes
>
> >> >On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
> >> >> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
>
> >> >> THAT is the best answer so far
>
> >> >> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
> >> >> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
> >> >> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
> >> >> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
> >> >> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
> >> >> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
> >> >> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
>
> >> >> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
> >> >> May...
>
> >> >> BB
>
> >> >> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>
> >> >> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
>
> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
> >> >> > wrote:
>
> >> >> > > Alan-
> >> >> > > Great insights-
> >> >> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I 
> >> >> > > did -
> >> >> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not 
> >> >> > > trying to
> >> >> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >> > > Michael D.
> >> >> > > Walnut Creek
>
> >> >> > > Michael DiBenedetto
> >> >> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
> >> >> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> >> >> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
> >> >> > > 925-899-2785
>
> >> >> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
> >> >> > > 
> >> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> >> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and 
> >> >> > > > weight
> >> >> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>
> >> >> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in 
> >> >> > > > weight
> >> >> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you 
> >> >> > > > wouldn't be
> >> >> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do 
> >> >> > > > admirably.
> >> >> > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just 
> >> >> > > > don't
> >> >> > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
>
> >> >> > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that 
> >> >> > > > think
> >> >> > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> >> >> > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's 
> >> >> > > > not a
> >> >> > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us 
> >> >> > > > systemizer-
> >> >> > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
>
> >> >> > > > Best,
> >> >> > > > -Allan
>
> >> >> > > > --
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[RBW] Re: Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread Earl Grey
Hi Peter,

here is a pic of my Sam with true 42mm semi-knobbies:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/4211601286/

Looks like there is room for a fender, at least a plastic one. I may
give the 52mm VO Aluminum Zeppelins from my Fisher Sphinx a try on the
Sam over 42mm knobbies, and if so, will report back.

Gernot

On Dec 9, 11:18 am, Paul  wrote:
> Just measured the Extremes. They are 40.0 mm at 30 psi.
>
> The fenders are SKS P50s, fairly close fit.
>
> Mike: No leg bump!
>
> Paul

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question

2010-12-08 Thread erik jensen
I will say, that if you want absolute versatility for any offroad need
(including touring) there is something to be said for the most lightly tubed
yet widest-tire-clearing bicycle in the bunch.

That puts you square on the atlantis, the quintessential rivendell if you
ask me.

You'll never find yourself with a ride or trip your bicycle can't do. Then,
go from there and spread out to a road machine, mtb, etc.

On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 8:56 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:

> I'm trying to control for personal bias, but isn't Sam H in the middle?
>
> Roadeo Ram Homey Sam Atlantis Hunq Bomb
>
> Although the gravity of a binary star is huge!
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:10 PM, James Warren wrote:
>
>>
>> Doug of course answered correctly. It's a trick question. The actual model
>> in the middle of the 7 if you list them is Sam Hillborne, but one's love of
>> one's own bike must over-ride that and one's own bike must be the center of
>> the universe. Hence, for Doug, the correct answer must be Atlantis. And in
>> the Peterson house, Atlantis is now a binary star!
>>
>> -James
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> >From: doug peterson 
>> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 4:49 PM
>> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question
>> >
>> >The correct answer is an Atlantis (why are you not surprised?).  No
>> >worries off-road; hauls more junk than anyone should care to; and
>> >wonderfully comfortable on the road.  I can't keep up with Rob on his
>> >Roadeo but I blame old age for that shortcoming.
>> >
>> >dougP
>> >
>> >On Dec 8, 4:24 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>> >> Easy one: if you place all the current Rivendell non-custom,
>> multi-geared, non-mixte models (and add in the Rambouillet - it has emeritus
>> status I say!) on a spectrum that runs from road bike to mountain
>> bike...that's 7 models...the question is:
>> >>
>> >> Which model lies in the middle of the spectrum?
>> >>
>> >> Not a hard question, but I just think it's fun. I'd actually be more
>> interested to know how many listmembers had already figured this out in
>> their heads.
>> >>
>> >> -James
>> >>
>> >> p.s. Where will the San Marcos be? Between Roadeo and Ram or between
>> Ram and AHH?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> >From: doug peterson 
>> >> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM
>> >> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>> >> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
>> >>
>> >> >I'm shocked, genuinely  shocked, that you guys are tossing out these
>> >> >recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research!  How
>> >> >can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with
>> >> >the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly
>> >> >exploring "...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges"
>> >> >Sounds like a slice of heaven to me!  S24O, anyone?
>> >>
>> >> >dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes
>> >>
>> >> >On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB 
>> wrote:
>> >> >> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
>> >>
>> >> >> THAT is the best answer so far
>> >>
>> >> >> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
>> >> >> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
>> >> >> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
>> >> >> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
>> >> >> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
>> >> >> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better
>> than
>> >> >> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
>> >>
>> >> >> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East
>> in
>> >> >> May...
>> >>
>> >> >> BB
>> >>
>> >> >> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
>> >>
>> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
>> >> >> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> > > Alan-
>> >> >> > > Great insights-
>> >> >> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what
>> I did -
>> >> >> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not
>> trying to
>> >> >> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
>> >> >> > > Thanks
>> >> >> > > Michael D.
>> >> >> > > Walnut Creek
>> >>
>> >> >> > > Michael DiBenedetto
>> >> >> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
>> >> >> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
>> >> >> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
>> >> >> > > 925-899-2785
>> >>
>> >> >> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland <
>> allan_f...@aracnet.com>
>> >> >> > > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed
>> and weight
>> >> >> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>> >>
>> >> >> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme
>> in weight
>> >> >> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you
>> wouldn't be
>> >> >> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first p

Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question

2010-12-08 Thread cyclotourist
I'm trying to control for personal bias, but isn't Sam H in the middle?

Roadeo Ram Homey Sam Atlantis Hunq Bomb

Although the gravity of a binary star is huge!



On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:10 PM, James Warren wrote:

>
> Doug of course answered correctly. It's a trick question. The actual model
> in the middle of the 7 if you list them is Sam Hillborne, but one's love of
> one's own bike must over-ride that and one's own bike must be the center of
> the universe. Hence, for Doug, the correct answer must be Atlantis. And in
> the Peterson house, Atlantis is now a binary star!
>
> -James
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: doug peterson 
> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 4:49 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question
> >
> >The correct answer is an Atlantis (why are you not surprised?).  No
> >worries off-road; hauls more junk than anyone should care to; and
> >wonderfully comfortable on the road.  I can't keep up with Rob on his
> >Roadeo but I blame old age for that shortcoming.
> >
> >dougP
> >
> >On Dec 8, 4:24 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> >> Easy one: if you place all the current Rivendell non-custom,
> multi-geared, non-mixte models (and add in the Rambouillet - it has emeritus
> status I say!) on a spectrum that runs from road bike to mountain
> bike...that's 7 models...the question is:
> >>
> >> Which model lies in the middle of the spectrum?
> >>
> >> Not a hard question, but I just think it's fun. I'd actually be more
> interested to know how many listmembers had already figured this out in
> their heads.
> >>
> >> -James
> >>
> >> p.s. Where will the San Marcos be? Between Roadeo and Ram or between Ram
> and AHH?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> >From: doug peterson 
> >> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM
> >> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
> >>
> >> >I'm shocked, genuinely  shocked, that you guys are tossing out these
> >> >recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research!  How
> >> >can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with
> >> >the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly
> >> >exploring "...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges"
> >> >Sounds like a slice of heaven to me!  S24O, anyone?
> >>
> >> >dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes
> >>
> >> >On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
> >> >> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
> >>
> >> >> THAT is the best answer so far
> >>
> >> >> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
> >> >> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
> >> >> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
> >> >> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
> >> >> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
> >> >> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
> >> >> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
> >>
> >> >> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East
> in
> >> >> May...
> >>
> >> >> BB
> >>
> >> >> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
> >>
> >> >> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
> >> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > > Alan-
> >> >> > > Great insights-
> >> >> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what
> I did -
> >> >> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not
> trying to
> >> >> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> >> >> > > Thanks
> >> >> > > Michael D.
> >> >> > > Walnut Creek
> >>
> >> >> > > Michael DiBenedetto
> >> >> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
> >> >> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> >> >> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
> >> >> > > 925-899-2785
> >>
> >> >> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland <
> allan_f...@aracnet.com>
> >> >> > > wrote:
> >>
> >> >> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and
> weight
> >> >> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
> >>
> >> >> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in
> weight
> >> >> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you
> wouldn't be
> >> >> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do
> admirably.
> >> >> > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color,
> just don't
> >> >> > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
> >>
> >> >> > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that
> think
> >> >> > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet
> split
> >> >> > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's
> not a
> >> >> > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us
> systemizer-
> >> >> > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
> >>
> >> >> > > > Best,
> >> >> > >

[RBW] Re: Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread Paul
Just measured the Extremes. They are 40.0 mm at 30 psi.

The fenders are SKS P50s, fairly close fit.

Mike: No leg bump!

Paul

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?

2010-12-08 Thread kps
Since you are asking for photos, here's my 57cm RodeoI love
mineNo color...just
Raw steel with clear coat...good luck with your choice!
Kps

http://www.flickr.com/photos/16848...@n03/sets/72157623773112005/

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[RBW] Re: generator powered Christmas lights

2010-12-08 Thread Paul
Wicked idea!

I've little knowledge of electrical work but would really dig doing
this on my dynohub!

Paul

On Dec 9, 6:30 am, Bill Rhea  wrote:
> Has anybody out there ever converted a string of Christmas lights for
> low voltage power, like that produced by a dynohub?  How cool would
> that be?  The output of my Shimano DH-3N80 hub is 6 volts, 3 watts.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> -br

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[RBW] Re: Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread doug peterson
Schwalbe's sizing is kinda interesting.  My 35 mm Marathon Supremes
are marked 37-622, 28 x 1.40, 700 x 35c.  At 60 psi they measure 36 mm
on a Mavic A 719 rim (24 mm or so inside width, IIRC).  Perhaps tire
measurements have different spec requirements in varioius parts of the
world, and Schwalbe is just trying to keep everyone happy?  Also, the
Extreme could measure different than the Supreme.

dougP

On Dec 8, 5:55 pm, EricP  wrote:
> Either way, I do believe the orange Hillbornes do take a wider tire
> than the first gen Greenborne.  Mine will run a 40 Marathon Supreme
> with fender, but that's about it.  At least for my safety.
>
> Believe list member Jim Thill built up a Orangeborne with 700x45
> tires.  Ah, yes - here it is -http://tinyurl.com/28fjnkk
>
> Still happy with my Hillborne, although this weather change means no
> 2k on that bike for the year.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
> (Where it was about +2F when riding into work this morning)
>
> On Dec 8, 6:57 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Actually they are marked 42-622, 700 x 40C, in Schwalbe's infinite
> > tire labeling wisdom. They probably run a bit narrow like many
> > Marathons. Haven't measured them yet, but will report back.
>
> > Gernot
>
> > On Dec 9, 12:52 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
> > > Hmm. He got 42's on there with fenders?
> > > Excuse me, I'm off to do some tire shopping!
>
> > > -Pete
>
> > > On Dec 8, 10:01 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > > My friend Paul just got back to Thailand with his new 56cm Hillborne,
> > > > which he bought after riding my 56 Hillborne and Kip's 56 Bomba. I
> > > > believe his carbon Felt is for sale. :)
>
> > > > If you want to see the two Sams side by side, click here
>
> > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5244123396/
>
> > > > (His is riding on 42mm Marathon Extremes, while mine is on 33mm Jack
> > > > Browns, which explains the apparent height difference.)
>
> > > > Enjoy,
>
> > > > Gernot
>
> > > > PS: Going on an all-Hillborne ride Friday!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread EricP
Either way, I do believe the orange Hillbornes do take a wider tire
than the first gen Greenborne.  Mine will run a 40 Marathon Supreme
with fender, but that's about it.  At least for my safety.

Believe list member Jim Thill built up a Orangeborne with 700x45
tires.  Ah, yes - here it is - http://tinyurl.com/28fjnkk

Still happy with my Hillborne, although this weather change means no
2k on that bike for the year.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN
(Where it was about +2F when riding into work this morning)

On Dec 8, 6:57 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Actually they are marked 42-622, 700 x 40C, in Schwalbe's infinite
> tire labeling wisdom. They probably run a bit narrow like many
> Marathons. Haven't measured them yet, but will report back.
>
> Gernot
>
> On Dec 9, 12:52 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hmm. He got 42's on there with fenders?
> > Excuse me, I'm off to do some tire shopping!
>
> > -Pete
>
> > On Dec 8, 10:01 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
> > > My friend Paul just got back to Thailand with his new 56cm Hillborne,
> > > which he bought after riding my 56 Hillborne and Kip's 56 Bomba. I
> > > believe his carbon Felt is for sale. :)
>
> > > If you want to see the two Sams side by side, click here
>
> > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5244123396/
>
> > > (His is riding on 42mm Marathon Extremes, while mine is on 33mm Jack
> > > Browns, which explains the apparent height difference.)
>
> > > Enjoy,
>
> > > Gernot
>
> > > PS: Going on an all-Hillborne ride Friday!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: SF Weekend?

2010-12-08 Thread Lesli
Here's the popup show info.  I'm sure some Riv folks who also like
heritage clothing (US made shirts, denim, knitwear, bags) might enjoy
dropping by the show.

http://thecommonsf.com/showmanship

Regards,

LL
On Dec 8, 10:01 am, Dave Minyard  wrote:
> When is the pop up happening?
> On Dec 7, 2010 10:37 AM, "Lesli"  wrote:> Hey. I'll 
> be in town for a holiday pop up show in the mission
> > district. Come by if you're in the area:
>
> http://www.archivalclothing.com/2010/10/archival-field-trip-nycbrookl...
>
> > I'm looking for recommendations for food and shopping in SF.
> > Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it out to Riv
> > headquarters this time. Maybe in the Spring.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Lesli Larson
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question

2010-12-08 Thread James Warren

Doug of course answered correctly. It's a trick question. The actual model in 
the middle of the 7 if you list them is Sam Hillborne, but one's love of one's 
own bike must over-ride that and one's own bike must be the center of the 
universe. Hence, for Doug, the correct answer must be Atlantis. And in the 
Peterson house, Atlantis is now a binary star!

-James


-Original Message-
>From: doug peterson 
>Sent: Dec 8, 2010 4:49 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question
>
>The correct answer is an Atlantis (why are you not surprised?).  No
>worries off-road; hauls more junk than anyone should care to; and
>wonderfully comfortable on the road.  I can't keep up with Rob on his
>Roadeo but I blame old age for that shortcoming.
>
>dougP
>
>On Dec 8, 4:24 pm, James Warren  wrote:
>> Easy one: if you place all the current Rivendell non-custom, multi-geared, 
>> non-mixte models (and add in the Rambouillet - it has emeritus status I 
>> say!) on a spectrum that runs from road bike to mountain bike...that's 7 
>> models...the question is:
>>
>> Which model lies in the middle of the spectrum?
>>
>> Not a hard question, but I just think it's fun. I'd actually be more 
>> interested to know how many listmembers had already figured this out in 
>> their heads.
>>
>> -James
>>
>> p.s. Where will the San Marcos be? Between Roadeo and Ram or between Ram and 
>> AHH?
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> >From: doug peterson 
>> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM
>> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
>>
>> >I'm shocked, genuinely  shocked, that you guys are tossing out these
>> >recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research!  How
>> >can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with
>> >the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly
>> >exploring "...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges"
>> >Sounds like a slice of heaven to me!  S24O, anyone?
>>
>> >dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes
>>
>> >On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
>> >> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
>>
>> >> THAT is the best answer so far
>>
>> >> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
>> >> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
>> >> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
>> >> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
>> >> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
>> >> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
>> >> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
>>
>> >> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
>> >> May...
>>
>> >> BB
>>
>> >> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>>
>> >> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
>>
>> >> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
>> >> > wrote:
>>
>> >> > > Alan-
>> >> > > Great insights-
>> >> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I 
>> >> > > did -
>> >> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not 
>> >> > > trying to
>> >> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
>> >> > > Thanks
>> >> > > Michael D.
>> >> > > Walnut Creek
>>
>> >> > > Michael DiBenedetto
>> >> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
>> >> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
>> >> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
>> >> > > 925-899-2785
>>
>> >> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
>> >> > > 
>> >> > > wrote:
>>
>> >> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and 
>> >> > > > weight
>> >> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>>
>> >> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in 
>> >> > > > weight
>> >> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't 
>> >> > > > be
>> >> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do 
>> >> > > > admirably.
>> >> > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just 
>> >> > > > don't
>> >> > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
>>
>> >> > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
>> >> > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
>> >> > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not 
>> >> > > > a
>> >> > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
>> >> > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
>>
>> >> > > > Best,
>> >> > > > -Allan
>>
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[RBW] Re: Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread Earl Grey
Actually they are marked 42-622, 700 x 40C, in Schwalbe's infinite
tire labeling wisdom. They probably run a bit narrow like many
Marathons. Haven't measured them yet, but will report back.

Gernot

On Dec 9, 12:52 am, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> Hmm. He got 42's on there with fenders?
> Excuse me, I'm off to do some tire shopping!
>
> -Pete
>
> On Dec 8, 10:01 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > My friend Paul just got back to Thailand with his new 56cm Hillborne,
> > which he bought after riding my 56 Hillborne and Kip's 56 Bomba. I
> > believe his carbon Felt is for sale. :)
>
> > If you want to see the two Sams side by side, click here
>
> >http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5244123396/
>
> > (His is riding on 42mm Marathon Extremes, while mine is on 33mm Jack
> > Browns, which explains the apparent height difference.)
>
> > Enjoy,
>
> > Gernot
>
> > PS: Going on an all-Hillborne ride Friday!

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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question

2010-12-08 Thread doug peterson
The correct answer is an Atlantis (why are you not surprised?).  No
worries off-road; hauls more junk than anyone should care to; and
wonderfully comfortable on the road.  I can't keep up with Rob on his
Roadeo but I blame old age for that shortcoming.

dougP

On Dec 8, 4:24 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> Easy one: if you place all the current Rivendell non-custom, multi-geared, 
> non-mixte models (and add in the Rambouillet - it has emeritus status I say!) 
> on a spectrum that runs from road bike to mountain bike...that's 7 
> models...the question is:
>
> Which model lies in the middle of the spectrum?
>
> Not a hard question, but I just think it's fun. I'd actually be more 
> interested to know how many listmembers had already figured this out in their 
> heads.
>
> -James
>
> p.s. Where will the San Marcos be? Between Roadeo and Ram or between Ram and 
> AHH?
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: doug peterson 
> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
>
> >I'm shocked, genuinely  shocked, that you guys are tossing out these
> >recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research!  How
> >can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with
> >the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly
> >exploring "...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges"
> >Sounds like a slice of heaven to me!  S24O, anyone?
>
> >dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes
>
> >On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
> >> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
>
> >> THAT is the best answer so far
>
> >> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
> >> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
> >> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
> >> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
> >> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
> >> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
> >> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
>
> >> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
> >> May...
>
> >> BB
>
> >> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>
> >> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
>
> >> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
> >> > wrote:
>
> >> > > Alan-
> >> > > Great insights-
> >> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did 
> >> > > -
> >> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not 
> >> > > trying to
> >> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > > Michael D.
> >> > > Walnut Creek
>
> >> > > Michael DiBenedetto
> >> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
> >> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> >> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
> >> > > 925-899-2785
>
> >> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
> >> > > wrote:
>
> >> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and 
> >> > > > weight
> >> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>
> >> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in 
> >> > > > weight
> >> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
> >> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
> >> > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just 
> >> > > > don't
> >> > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
>
> >> > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
> >> > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> >> > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
> >> > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
> >> > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
>
> >> > > > Best,
> >> > > > -Allan
>
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[RBW] Which Rivendell bike - Related Quiz Question

2010-12-08 Thread James Warren

Easy one: if you place all the current Rivendell non-custom, multi-geared, 
non-mixte models (and add in the Rambouillet - it has emeritus status I say!) 
on a spectrum that runs from road bike to mountain bike...that's 7 models...the 
question is:

Which model lies in the middle of the spectrum?

Not a hard question, but I just think it's fun. I'd actually be more interested 
to know how many listmembers had already figured this out in their heads.

-James

p.s. Where will the San Marcos be? Between Roadeo and Ram or between Ram and 
AHH?


-Original Message-
>From: doug peterson 
>Sent: Dec 8, 2010 3:33 PM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?
>
>I'm shocked, genuinely  shocked, that you guys are tossing out these
>recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research!  How
>can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with
>the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly
>exploring "...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges"
>Sounds like a slice of heaven to me!  S24O, anyone?
>
>dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes
>
>On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
>> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
>>
>> THAT is the best answer so far
>>
>> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
>> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
>> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
>> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
>> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
>> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
>> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
>>
>> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
>> May...
>>
>> BB
>>
>> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
>>
>> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > > Alan-
>> > > Great insights-
>> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did -
>> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying 
>> > > to
>> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Michael D.
>> > > Walnut Creek
>>
>> > > Michael DiBenedetto
>> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
>> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
>> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
>> > > 925-899-2785
>>
>> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
>> > > wrote:
>>
>> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
>> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>>
>> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
>> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
>> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
>> > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
>> > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
>>
>> > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
>> > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
>> > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
>> > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
>> > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
>>
>> > > > Best,
>> > > > -Allan
>>
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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Frankwurst
Atlantis if you can ride a 56 (only because your tire options are
huge). It'll go anywhere you have the physical condition or the stones
to take it.

On Dec 7, 3:31 pm, JimP  wrote:
> Which Rivendell bike would you choose for the following:
>
> Approx 3500 acres of Hardwoods and pastures,very hilly with ridges and
> bottoms. Surrounded by asphalt gravel and dirt roads. Horse trails.
> Dowhhill to the bottoms from normal starting point. Long uphill treck
> (~ 1 mile) through pastures back. Dirt road travels to the bottoms so
> you can cross a shallow (~ 1 foot +/-) creek and pedal uphill on the
> dirt road then to asphalt the long way around (4-5 miles) back. A few
> steep hills from the bottoms to the tops of ridges (I would probably
> have to walk the bike up these but going downhill would be fun).
>
> Thoughts? Recommendations?

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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis, Complete Bike

2010-12-08 Thread Mike
I remain very interested in the frame but understand your reluctance
to part it out. Unfortunately I just can't swing the whole bike at
this time.

--mike

On Dec 8, 8:16 am, Joe Bartoe  wrote:
> Cost, build, pics?
>
> Joe Bartoe
>
> Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.www.synapticcycles.com
>
> 949-374-6079
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:58:05 -0800
> > Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis, Complete Bike
> > From: mkr...@gmail.com
> > To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>
> > Just wanted to bump this up.  The bike is still available.
>
> > -Matthew
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[RBW] Re: Who makes inexpensive custom quill stems?

2010-12-08 Thread cm
I would search Ebay for something longer/ taller. I dont imagine there
is a lot of demand for these stems, so I imagine they go pretty cheap.

here is an example:
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Uno-Bike-Quill-Stem-130mm-15-for-1-1-4-HS-Purple_W0QQitemZ360246210726QQcategoryZ22694QQcmdZViewItem

(sorry no tiny url)

I have a bike with a threaded 1 1/4 and had a tough time finding
something good enough.

Good Luck!

Cheers!
cm

On Dec 8, 3:49 pm, James Valiensi  wrote:
> Hi,
> You could use an adapter to run a standard quill stem in your 1-1/4" fork. 
> I've made them before.
> Cheers!
> On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ginz wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Might be cheapest to replace the fork.  :)
>
> > On Dec 7, 9:10 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx monster cross in addition to my Sam that
> >> is getting more and more rivvish by the year, but is a size too small.
> >> Since the Fisher has a 1 1/4 (!) threaded steerer, finding tall (or
> >> any) replacement stems is nigh impossible. I bought a Nitto threaded
> >> to threadless converter, but it is disgracefully short, and thus
> >> doesn't solve the problem. Seems like a custom 1 1/4 quill stem or
> >> selling the frame are the only options. Anyone have any
> >> recommendations for a frame builder that makes inexpensive custom
> >> quill stems? (It's a cheap frame, so I don't want to throw $200 at the
> >> problem.) I could supply a donor quill if that is an issue...
>
> >> Thanks,
>
> >> Gernot
>
> >> PS: Here is a pic:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/
> >> With 35 degree, 110mm stem porteur bars are too low and too close, and
> >> Noodles or Moustaches are too low and too far away.
>
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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread doug peterson
I'm shocked, genuinely  shocked, that you guys are tossing out these
recommendations without benefit of on the ground field research!  How
can one possibly, in good conscience, recommend any Rivendell (with
the possible exception of the Atlantis, of course) without thoroughly
exploring "...3,500 acres of hardwoods, very hilly with ridges"
Sounds like a slice of heaven to me!  S24O, anyone?

dougP, looking for a good excuse to try Marathon Extremes

On Dec 8, 1:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB  wrote:
> ...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...
>
> THAT is the best answer so far
>
> Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
> panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
> styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
> testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
> imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
> course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
> the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.
>
> Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
> May...
>
> BB
>
> On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Make it easy-just get one of each!
>
> > On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
> > wrote:
>
> > > Alan-
> > > Great insights-
> > > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did -
> > > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to
> > > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> > > Thanks
> > > Michael D.
> > > Walnut Creek
>
> > > Michael DiBenedetto
> > >www.lifeforcemassage.com
> > > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> > > Lafayette, CA. 94549
> > > 925-899-2785
>
> > > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
> > > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>
> > > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
> > > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
> > > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
> > > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
> > > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
>
> > > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
> > > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> > > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
> > > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
> > > > maximizer types can get carried away.
>
> > > > Best,
> > > > -Allan
>
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[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?

2010-12-08 Thread Kentileguy
s! let's keep that on the down low

On Dec 8, 5:29 pm, James Warren  wrote:
> You must not like orange. :^) Because that one on eBay right now is a 58, and 
> it's a beaut!
>
> Again, no connection to the seller.
>
> -Original Message-
> >From: Kentileguy 
> >Sent: Dec 8, 2010 6:31 AM
> >To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> >Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?
>
> >Lots of great opinions, Thanks!
> >I think the practical, intelligent thing to do is find a used 58cm
> >Ram. Unfortunately I'm suffering from a horrible case of new bike-itis
> >and I'm leaning heavily towards a new 57cm quill stem Rodeo. Talked to
> >Riv yesterday regarding sizing and it sounds like a 57 is best for me.
> >now for the big decision- what color? Can anyone post a picture of a
> >black Riv with a cream headtube (doesn't have to be a Rodeo) ? I'm
> >thinking I will go with black. Or green . Or orange. Or.
>
> >On Dec 6, 5:33 pm, Minh  wrote:
> >> I'm in the middle of this myself. Is there a more elegant way then
> >> squeezing?  Do I need to replace the axle.
>
> >> On Dec 6, 1:27 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> >> > You will have no problems installing a 130 wheel in a 135 frame; or
> >> > vice versa. I've put 110 mm hubs in 126 mm frames (squeeze!).
>
> >> > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Kentileguy  
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > Lots of great input. Thanks! According to Riv's sizing chart I'm right
> >> > > between a 57 and a 59. I bought Homer used, so I didn't have much
> >> > > choice. On the plus side, it was local, like new and reasonably
> >> > > priced. I have no regrets about buying it and after alot of tweaking I
> >> > > think the fit is just about right. The 7cm stem is probably not ideal
> >> > > and I am a little leery about squeezing the 135mm rear triangle around
> >> > > a 130mm hub. I'm not fixated on weight, but I was very surprised at
> >> > > how much different the lighter wheelset felt. I've considered the Ram
> >> > > (there's a sweet 58cm orange one on ebay right now), but I thought it
> >> > > might be too similar to the Homer. Ideally I would test ride a Ram &
> >> > > Roadeo side by side to be able to form my own opinions, but there's
> >> > > little chance of that happening, so I'm relying on the collective
> >> > > wisdom of the group.
> >> > > Thanks, Ken
>
> >> > > On Dec 5, 9:09 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> >> > >> .8/.5/.8 was what they used on Toyo Rams for TT and DT. Isn't Rodeo a 
> >> > >> tad
> >> > >> lighter?
>
> >> > >> 
> >> > >> From: cyclotourist 
> >> > >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> >> > >> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 9:00:45 PM
> >> > >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?
>
> >> > >> Yeah, I just don't remember, but thought they were the same 
> >> > >> tubing...???
>
> >> > >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bill M.  wrote:
>
> >> > >> According to one member of our club (he may chime in here), the Roadeo
>
> >> > >> >he has now is built lighter than the Ram he once owned.  I believe
> >> > >> >that Homer would be heavier than either.
>
> >> > >> >Bill
>
> >> > >> >On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> >> > >> >> Are you sure that the Roadeo has lighter tubing?  I thought at 
> >> > >> >> some point
> >> > >> >> the discussion was that they both are built with 8-5-8 maintubes.
> >> > >> >nch?hl=en.
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[RBW] generator powered Christmas lights

2010-12-08 Thread Bill Rhea
Has anybody out there ever converted a string of Christmas lights for
low voltage power, like that produced by a dynohub?  How cool would
that be?  The output of my Shimano DH-3N80 hub is 6 volts, 3 watts.

Suggestions?

-br

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?

2010-12-08 Thread James Warren

You must not like orange. :^) Because that one on eBay right now is a 58, and 
it's a beaut!

Again, no connection to the seller.


-Original Message-
>From: Kentileguy 
>Sent: Dec 8, 2010 6:31 AM
>To: RBW Owners Bunch 
>Subject: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?
>
>Lots of great opinions, Thanks!
>I think the practical, intelligent thing to do is find a used 58cm
>Ram. Unfortunately I'm suffering from a horrible case of new bike-itis
>and I'm leaning heavily towards a new 57cm quill stem Rodeo. Talked to
>Riv yesterday regarding sizing and it sounds like a 57 is best for me.
>now for the big decision- what color? Can anyone post a picture of a
>black Riv with a cream headtube (doesn't have to be a Rodeo) ? I'm
>thinking I will go with black. Or green . Or orange. Or.
>
>On Dec 6, 5:33 pm, Minh  wrote:
>> I'm in the middle of this myself. Is there a more elegant way then
>> squeezing?  Do I need to replace the axle.
>>
>> On Dec 6, 1:27 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>>
>> > You will have no problems installing a 130 wheel in a 135 frame; or
>> > vice versa. I've put 110 mm hubs in 126 mm frames (squeeze!).
>>
>> > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Kentileguy  wrote:
>> > > Lots of great input. Thanks! According to Riv's sizing chart I'm right
>> > > between a 57 and a 59. I bought Homer used, so I didn't have much
>> > > choice. On the plus side, it was local, like new and reasonably
>> > > priced. I have no regrets about buying it and after alot of tweaking I
>> > > think the fit is just about right. The 7cm stem is probably not ideal
>> > > and I am a little leery about squeezing the 135mm rear triangle around
>> > > a 130mm hub. I'm not fixated on weight, but I was very surprised at
>> > > how much different the lighter wheelset felt. I've considered the Ram
>> > > (there's a sweet 58cm orange one on ebay right now), but I thought it
>> > > might be too similar to the Homer. Ideally I would test ride a Ram &
>> > > Roadeo side by side to be able to form my own opinions, but there's
>> > > little chance of that happening, so I'm relying on the collective
>> > > wisdom of the group.
>> > > Thanks, Ken
>>
>> > > On Dec 5, 9:09 pm, Bruce  wrote:
>> > >> .8/.5/.8 was what they used on Toyo Rams for TT and DT. Isn't Rodeo a 
>> > >> tad
>> > >> lighter?
>>
>> > >> 
>> > >> From: cyclotourist 
>> > >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
>> > >> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 9:00:45 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?
>>
>> > >> Yeah, I just don't remember, but thought they were the same tubing...???
>>
>> > >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bill M.  wrote:
>>
>> > >> According to one member of our club (he may chime in here), the Roadeo
>>
>> > >> >he has now is built lighter than the Ram he once owned.  I believe
>> > >> >that Homer would be heavier than either.
>>
>> > >> >Bill
>>
>> > >> >On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
>> > >> >> Are you sure that the Roadeo has lighter tubing?  I thought at some 
>> > >> >> point
>> > >> >> the discussion was that they both are built with 8-5-8 maintubes.
>> > >> >nch?hl=en.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who makes inexpensive custom quill stems?

2010-12-08 Thread James Valiensi
Hi,
You could use an adapter to run a standard quill stem in your 1-1/4" fork. I've 
made them before.
Cheers!
On Dec 8, 2010, at 6:24 AM, Ginz wrote:

> Might be cheapest to replace the fork.  :)
> 
> On Dec 7, 9:10 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx monster cross in addition to my Sam that
>> is getting more and more rivvish by the year, but is a size too small.
>> Since the Fisher has a 1 1/4 (!) threaded steerer, finding tall (or
>> any) replacement stems is nigh impossible. I bought a Nitto threaded
>> to threadless converter, but it is disgracefully short, and thus
>> doesn't solve the problem. Seems like a custom 1 1/4 quill stem or
>> selling the frame are the only options. Anyone have any
>> recommendations for a frame builder that makes inexpensive custom
>> quill stems? (It's a cheap frame, so I don't want to throw $200 at the
>> problem.) I could supply a donor quill if that is an issue...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Gernot
>> 
>> PS: Here is a pic:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/
>> With 35 degree, 110mm stem porteur bars are too low and too close, and
>> Noodles or Moustaches are too low and too far away.
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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Montclair BobbyB
...Make it easy-just get one of each! ...

THAT is the best answer so far

Actually, this would make for a nice test... Assemble a blue ribbon
panel of riders (of varying size and weights, riding preferences and
styles), each performing a comparison ride of all the Rivs while
testing them over the varied terrain at JimP's place (hope it's no
imposition, Jim...).  Each rider would ride each bike over the same
course and do a write up of each ride; not to declare one better than
the other; rather to describe the ride characteristics of each.

Maybe we'll attempt a less-formal version of this at Riv Rally East in
May...

BB

On Dec 8, 4:13 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> Make it easy-just get one of each!
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Alan-
> > Great insights-
> > After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did -
> > chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to
> > figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> > Thanks
> > Michael D.
> > Walnut Creek
>
> > Michael DiBenedetto
> >www.lifeforcemassage.com
> > 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> > Lafayette, CA. 94549
> > 925-899-2785
>
> > On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
> > wrote:
>
> > > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
> > > (both yours and gear) are the others.
>
> > > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
> > > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
> > > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
> > > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
> > > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
>
> > > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
> > > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> > > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
> > > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
> > > maximizer types can get carried away.
>
> > > Best,
> > > -Allan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread robert zeidler
Make it easy-just get one of each!


On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:51 PM, Michael DiBenedetto
wrote:

> Alan-
> Great insights-
> After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did -
> chose the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to
> figure out the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs.
> Thanks
> Michael D.
> Walnut Creek
>
> Michael DiBenedetto
> www.lifeforcemassage.com
> 3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
> Lafayette, CA. 94549
> 925-899-2785
>
> On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland 
> wrote:
>
> > Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
> > (both yours and gear) are the others.
> >
> > And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
> > or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
> > asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
> > When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
> > tell any of the folks here that. :-)
> >
> > The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
> > they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> > hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
> > difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
> > maximizer types can get carried away.
> >
> > Best,
> > -Allan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Classic Friction Shifting

2010-12-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 07:07 -0800, Jan Heine wrote:
> 
> It's funny that the first generation, which Eric bought, had the nice
> drop parallelogram and special upper pivot. When Campagnolo ran out of
> those castings, they just put the longer cages on a standard Nuovo
> Record body. It appears that Campagnolo's commitment to cyclotouring
> never ran very deep. (Eric's actually is the best of them all, as it
> has the reinforcing rib on the upper casting, which prevents it from
> cracking in half.)

Jan, if you think that's bad you should have seen their first attempt at
a touring derailleur. the Gran Turismo.  This was the answer to the
question, "What do you get when you cross a Valentino derailleur with a
boat anchor?"

Hard to credit what the Classic Rendezvous site has to say about the
Rally:  "1974:  first edition Rally...To many minds, the best all round
touring derailleur ever made."  I guess those minds must never have
encountered the SunTour VGT Luxe or the Shimano Crane, never mind the
Huret Duopar or any Shimano MTB rear derailleur made in the past 20
years.



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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Roger
If you're nimble and on the lighter side, perhaps a Roadeo would fit
the bill, as it is the successor to the Legolas, with a few notable
changes like bb height and brake type. Mostly, I say this mostly
because I just want to plug Vaughn's "Walking the Dog" youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkNyN0j_cfo

That's a fun-looking style of nimble riding on a lightweight bike.
Probably about the equivalent of my weight on a Hunqapillar...

On Dec 8, 8:26 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 12/7/10 1:31 PM, JimP at thefamil...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Which Rivendell bike would you choose for the following:
>
> > Approx 3500 acres of Hardwoods and pastures,very hilly with ridges and
> > bottoms. Surrounded by asphalt gravel and dirt roads. Horse trails.
> > Dowhhill to the bottoms from normal starting point. Long uphill treck
> > (~ 1 mile) through pastures back. Dirt road travels to the bottoms so
> > you can cross a shallow (~ 1 foot +/-) creek and pedal uphill on the
> > dirt road then to asphalt the long way around (4-5 miles) back. A few
> > steep hills from the bottoms to the tops of ridges (I would probably
> > have to walk the bike up these but going downhill would be fun).
>
> > Thoughts? Recommendations?
>
> I think any of them... ;^)
>
> If I wanted to go fast and light, a Roadeo.  Bring a bit o' stuff and maybe
> engage in a S24O, the Hilson or Hillborne.  Camp out for a couple of days,
> Atlantis or Hunquapillar. Enjoy freedom from shifting, the Quickbeam or
> SimpLeone.  Stay out until my facial hair makes me look like a Wookie, The
> Bombadil.
>
> Versatile darned designs, these Rivendells...
>
> - Jim
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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Michael DiBenedetto
Alan-
Great insights-
After too much reading, thinking, questing, that is exactly what I did - chose 
the Hunq as my one all-rounder for comfort AND style - not trying to figure out 
the PERFECT ride to suit all those SPECIFIC needs. 
Thanks
Michael D. 
Walnut Creek

Michael DiBenedetto
www.lifeforcemassage.com
3190 Old Tunnel Rd. Suite C
Lafayette, CA. 94549
925-899-2785

On Dec 8, 2010, at 10:28 AM, Allan in Portland  wrote:

> Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
> (both yours and gear) are the others.
> 
> And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
> or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
> asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
> When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
> tell any of the folks here that. :-)
> 
> The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
> they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
> hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
> difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
> maximizer types can get carried away.
> 
> Best,
> -Allan
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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Allan in Portland
Surface, which you've mentioned is one consideration. Speed and weight
(both yours and gear) are the others.

And here's the somewhat boring truth: unless you are extreme in weight
or speed, or a bicycle connoisseur (and in which case you wouldn't be
asking on a list-serve in the first place) any Riv will do admirably.
When it comes down to it, feel free to pick based on color, just don't
tell any of the folks here that. :-)

The irony is kind of funny that some folks mock cyclists that think
they need just the right foot gear or what-have-you, and yet split
hairs on frames and handlebars all the same. Not saying there's not a
difference among frames or handlebars, but sometimes us systemizer-
maximizer types can get carried away.

Best,
-Allan

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[RBW] Re: Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread Mike
Those bikes look great. Does Paul get any leg bump from the basket on
the rear?

--mike

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Re: [RBW] SF Weekend?

2010-12-08 Thread Dave Minyard
When is the pop up happening?
On Dec 7, 2010 10:37 AM, "Lesli"  wrote:
> Hey. I'll be in town for a holiday pop up show in the mission
> district. Come by if you're in the area:
>
>
http://www.archivalclothing.com/2010/10/archival-field-trip-nycbrooklyn-pt-1.html
>
> I'm looking for recommendations for food and shopping in SF.
> Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it out to Riv
> headquarters this time. Maybe in the Spring.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lesli Larson
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[RBW] Re: San Diego Bike Rental

2010-12-08 Thread IPATOM
Just returned from a bike and beer credit card tour in SD county.
Coastal route is always nice.  If you want a climb...Escondido or El
Cajon to Julian is epic.  There are lots of public transportation
options..amtrak...coaster...sprinter to get you to start point if time
is limited.  Train stations should have SD bike map.

On Dec 7, 6:58 pm, Dan Abelson  wrote:
> I will be in the San Diego area (Encinitas) over the holidays.  Does
> anyone know of a good place to rent a bike -- bonus for Rivish- Bobish
> bike?  I am also open to suggestions for good riding in the area.  I
> have seen lots of great ride pics from those of you in San Diego.
>
> Thanks
>
> Dan Abelson
> St. Paul, MN

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[RBW] Re: Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread Peter Pesce
Hmm. He got 42's on there with fenders?
Excuse me, I'm off to do some tire shopping!

-Pete

On Dec 8, 10:01 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
> My friend Paul just got back to Thailand with his new 56cm Hillborne,
> which he bought after riding my 56 Hillborne and Kip's 56 Bomba. I
> believe his carbon Felt is for sale. :)
>
> If you want to see the two Sams side by side, click here
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5244123396/
>
> (His is riding on 42mm Marathon Extremes, while mine is on 33mm Jack
> Browns, which explains the apparent height difference.)
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Gernot
>
> PS: Going on an all-Hillborne ride Friday!

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[RBW] Re: Classic Friction Shifting

2010-12-08 Thread JoelMatthews
> When Campagnolo ran out of those castings, they just put the longer cages on 
> a standard Nuovo
> Record body.

Unless my particular derailleur was actually missing a component, I
think this is where mine went wrong.  My set up must have put more
torque where the cage attached to the body then it was designed to
accommodate.  After a few shifts, the cage pulled right off the body.

The Shimano deer-head Deore I placed on after the wreck works
wonderfully.

On Dec 8, 9:07 am, Jan Heine  wrote:
> The Campagnolo Rally isn't really a great design, but it can work very
> well with the right chain and freewheel combination. I had one on my
> touring bike for years. It worked great with a 7-speed Dura-Ace
> freewheel with the twisted teeth and a 7-speed Sedisport chain. When I
> switched to a Regina 5-speed freewheel and 5-speed Regina chain, the
> shifting was terrible, perhaps the worst I've ever experienced on a
> bike.
>
> It's funny that the first generation, which Eric bought, had the nice
> drop parallelogram and special upper pivot. When Campagnolo ran out of
> those castings, they just put the longer cages on a standard Nuovo
> Record body. It appears that Campagnolo's commitment to cyclotouring
> never ran very deep. (Eric's actually is the best of them all, as it
> has the reinforcing rib on the upper casting, which prevents it from
> cracking in half.)
>
> Jan Heine
> Editor
> Bicycle Quarterly
> 2116 Western Ave.
> Seattle WA 98121http://www.bikequarterly.com
>
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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Philip Williamson
That terrain sounds ideal and beautiful. I agree with the CycloFiend.
Any Rivendell model would give great satisfaction, and be huge fun.

My first choice from your description was (of course) "Quickbeam!" If
you'd be pushing up the steepies anyway... If you like gears, the A.
Homer Hilsen or Sam Hillborne with ~35mm tires. That's the riding
they're made for! My choice would probably be a Sam Hillborne, because
I like the up-rising top tube, and the price point would save some
ducats for fancy wheels and sealed bearings.

If you like speed over rough ground, edge to the burlier end of the
spectrum with a mountain bike: the Bombadil or Hunqapillar. Bombing
down gravel roads is a blast.
If you like speed over smooth ground and finesse in the rough, get a
Roadeo.

 Philip

 Philip Williamson
www.biketinker.com

On Dec 8, 8:26 am, CycloFiend  wrote:
> on 12/7/10 1:31 PM, JimP at thefamil...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > Which Rivendell bike would you choose for the following:
>
> > Approx 3500 acres of Hardwoods and pastures,very hilly with ridges and
> > bottoms. Surrounded by asphalt gravel and dirt roads. Horse trails.
> > Dowhhill to the bottoms from normal starting point. Long uphill treck
> > (~ 1 mile) through pastures back. Dirt road travels to the bottoms so
> > you can cross a shallow (~ 1 foot +/-) creek and pedal uphill on the
> > dirt road then to asphalt the long way around (4-5 miles) back. A few
> > steep hills from the bottoms to the tops of ridges (I would probably
> > have to walk the bike up these but going downhill would be fun).
>
> > Thoughts? Recommendations?
>
> I think any of them... ;^)
>
> If I wanted to go fast and light, a Roadeo.  Bring a bit o' stuff and maybe
> engage in a S24O, the Hilson or Hillborne.  Camp out for a couple of days,
> Atlantis or Hunquapillar. Enjoy freedom from shifting, the Quickbeam or
> SimpLeone.  Stay out until my facial hair makes me look like a Wookie, The
> Bombadil.
>
> Versatile darned designs, these Rivendells...
>
> - Jim
>
> --
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> just like that I knew it was dead"
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[RBW] Re: SF Weekend?

2010-12-08 Thread Lesli
I need to ditch SHOWMANSHIP and just eat my way through this list.
Amazing.  Thanks again.  I figured on a high concentration of Riv
folks in Bay Area.  You need to publish a Riv-ish city guide.

LL

On Dec 8, 2:54 am, A D  wrote:
> We like to grab Maple Glazed Bacon Donuts from Dynamo's whenever we're
> in town.  Welcome and enjoy your trip to the Bay Area.
>
> On Dec 7, 10:37 am, Lesli  wrote:
>
> > Hey.  I'll be in town for a holiday pop up show in the mission
> > district.  Come by if you're in the area:
>
> >http://www.archivalclothing.com/2010/10/archival-field-trip-nycbrookl...
>
> > I'm looking for recommendations for food and shopping in SF.
> > Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it out to Riv
> > headquarters this time.  Maybe in the Spring.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Lesli Larson

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Re: [RBW] Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread CycloFiend
on 12/7/10 1:31 PM, JimP at thefamil...@gmail.com wrote:

> Which Rivendell bike would you choose for the following:
> 
> Approx 3500 acres of Hardwoods and pastures,very hilly with ridges and
> bottoms. Surrounded by asphalt gravel and dirt roads. Horse trails.
> Dowhhill to the bottoms from normal starting point. Long uphill treck
> (~ 1 mile) through pastures back. Dirt road travels to the bottoms so
> you can cross a shallow (~ 1 foot +/-) creek and pedal uphill on the
> dirt road then to asphalt the long way around (4-5 miles) back. A few
> steep hills from the bottoms to the tops of ridges (I would probably
> have to walk the bike up these but going downhill would be fun).
> 
> Thoughts? Recommendations?

I think any of them... ;^)

If I wanted to go fast and light, a Roadeo.  Bring a bit o' stuff and maybe
engage in a S24O, the Hilson or Hillborne.  Camp out for a couple of days,
Atlantis or Hunquapillar. Enjoy freedom from shifting, the Quickbeam or
SimpLeone.  Stay out until my facial hair makes me look like a Wookie, The
Bombadil.

Versatile darned designs, these Rivendells...

- Jim

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RE: [RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis, Complete Bike

2010-12-08 Thread Joe Bartoe

Cost, build, pics?

Joe Bartoe

Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
www.synapticcycles.com

949-374-6079



> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 06:58:05 -0800
> Subject: [RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis, Complete Bike
> From: mkr...@gmail.com
> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> 
> Just wanted to bump this up.  The bike is still available.
> 
> -Matthew
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[RBW] Re: SF Weekend?

2010-12-08 Thread A D
We like to grab Maple Glazed Bacon Donuts from Dynamo's whenever we're
in town.  Welcome and enjoy your trip to the Bay Area.

On Dec 7, 10:37 am, Lesli  wrote:
> Hey.  I'll be in town for a holiday pop up show in the mission
> district.  Come by if you're in the area:
>
> http://www.archivalclothing.com/2010/10/archival-field-trip-nycbrookl...
>
> I'm looking for recommendations for food and shopping in SF.
> Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it out to Riv
> headquarters this time.  Maybe in the Spring.
>
> Regards,
>
> Lesli Larson

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[RBW] Re: SF Weekend?

2010-12-08 Thread Ely Rodriguez
Ti Couz is at 16th and Valencia.
My wife and I go there every tuesday night for a dessert crepe.
the homemade caramel is my thing.
she gets honey.

On Dec 7, 11:06 am, William  wrote:
> I really like the crepe restaurant Ti Couz.  It's down there in or
> near the Mission.
>
> On Dec 7, 10:37 am, Lesli  wrote:> Hey.  I'll be in 
> town for a holiday pop up show in the mission
> > district.  Come by if you're in the area:
>
> >http://www.archivalclothing.com/2010/10/archival-field-trip-nycbrookl...
>
> > I'm looking for recommendations for food and shopping in SF.
> > Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it out to Riv
> > headquarters this time.  Maybe in the Spring.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Lesli Larson

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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Atlantis, Complete Bike

2010-12-08 Thread mkrbec
Just wanted to bump this up.  The bike is still available.

-Matthew

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[RBW] Re: SF Weekend?

2010-12-08 Thread Ely Rodriguez
the walnut pie at Mission Pie at 25th and Mission is nice.
They just started doing pot pies too, they are all hand made and
excellent.

On Dec 7, 2:52 pm, Esteban  wrote:
> Box Dog, Four Barrel, Zeitgeist, Mission Pie, The Attic, Monk's
> Kettle, Cancun, Tartine, Elbo Room, Pizzeria Delfino, Ritual, Dog
> Eared Books, Maxwells, 500 Club, Chow, Paxton Gate, walk/ride up
> Bernal Hill at sunset.
>
> I'm such a tourist.
>
> Esteban
> San Diego, Calif.
>
> On Dec 7, 11:06 am, William  wrote:
>
> > I really like the crepe restaurant Ti Couz.  It's down there in or
> > near the Mission.
>
> > On Dec 7, 10:37 am, Lesli  wrote:
>
> > > Hey.  I'll be in town for a holiday pop up show in the mission
> > > district.  Come by if you're in the area:
>
> > >http://www.archivalclothing.com/2010/10/archival-field-trip-nycbrookl...
>
> > > I'm looking for recommendations for food and shopping in SF.
> > > Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it out to Riv
> > > headquarters this time.  Maybe in the Spring.
>
> > > Regards,
>
> > > Lesli Larson

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Re: [RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Shaun Meehan
I don't disagree with the responses that you've received so far,
recommending the Hunqapillar, Bombadil, and Hillborne. Any of those
bikes would perform admirably in the conditions you describe and would
make great choices. Of those, I'd probably lean towards the Hunq/Bomba
for the increased tire clearance. Anyway, I just wanted to add that
the tried-and-true Atlantis would work every bit as well under those
conditions. It seems like it's sort of being overshadowed by the newer
crop of bikes that Rivendell is offering. The Atlantis is still a
great bike!

Shaun Meehan

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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread Saturday Mark
See inserted comments.I think it's about even between the 2 basic
choices.

On Dec 7, 2:31 pm, JimP  wrote:
> Which Rivendell bike would you choose for the following:
>
> Approx 3500 acres of Hardwoods and pastures,very hilly with ridges and
> bottoms (Hunq/Bomb). Surrounded by asphalt gravel and dirt roads 
> (Hillbourne). Horse trails.(Hillborne)
> Dowhhill to the bottoms from normal starting point(Hunq/Bomb). Long uphill 
> treck
> (~ 1 mile) through pastures back(Hillborne/Betty, as you might need to get 
> on/off a lot in 'pastures'). Dirt road travels to the bottoms(Hillborne) so
> you can cross a shallow (~ 1 foot +/-) creek(Hunq/Bomb) and pedal uphill on 
> the
> dirt road(Hunq/Bomb) then to asphalt the long way around (4-5 miles) 
> back(Rodeo). A few
> steep hills from the bottoms to the tops of ridges (I would probably
> have to walk the bike up these but going downhill would be fun).(Hunq/Bomb)
>
> Thoughts? Recommendations?

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[RBW] Re: Out of the box! (some Sam double top tube pics)

2010-12-08 Thread Paul
Doug:

They're Marathon Extremes. They're from Riv although they don't seem
to have it on their site. 40 I think ?

On Dec 8, 10:58 am, doug peterson  wrote:
> Paul:
>
> I recognize "Schwalbe" on the tires but can't quite make out which
> model.  What size and model did you select?
>
> You gotta love it when a new bike arrives.  Don't forget your camera
> (as I usually do) when you head for the hills.
>
> dougP
>

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[RBW] Re: Classic Friction Shifting

2010-12-08 Thread Jan Heine
The Campagnolo Rally isn't really a great design, but it can work very
well with the right chain and freewheel combination. I had one on my
touring bike for years. It worked great with a 7-speed Dura-Ace
freewheel with the twisted teeth and a 7-speed Sedisport chain. When I
switched to a Regina 5-speed freewheel and 5-speed Regina chain, the
shifting was terrible, perhaps the worst I've ever experienced on a
bike.

It's funny that the first generation, which Eric bought, had the nice
drop parallelogram and special upper pivot. When Campagnolo ran out of
those castings, they just put the longer cages on a standard Nuovo
Record body. It appears that Campagnolo's commitment to cyclotouring
never ran very deep. (Eric's actually is the best of them all, as it
has the reinforcing rib on the upper casting, which prevents it from
cracking in half.)

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
2116 Western Ave.
Seattle WA 98121
http://www.bikequarterly.com

Follow our blog at http://janheine.wordpress.com/

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[RBW] Two Hillbornes in the wild

2010-12-08 Thread Earl Grey
My friend Paul just got back to Thailand with his new 56cm Hillborne,
which he bought after riding my 56 Hillborne and Kip's 56 Bomba. I
believe his carbon Felt is for sale. :)

If you want to see the two Sams side by side, click here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5244123396/

(His is riding on 42mm Marathon Extremes, while mine is on 33mm Jack
Browns, which explains the apparent height difference.)


Enjoy,

Gernot

PS: Going on an all-Hillborne ride Friday!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?

2010-12-08 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Wed, 2010-12-08 at 06:31 -0800, Kentileguy wrote:
> Lots of great opinions, Thanks!
> I think the practical, intelligent thing to do is find a used 58cm
> Ram. Unfortunately I'm suffering from a horrible case of new bike-itis
> and I'm leaning heavily towards a new 57cm quill stem Rodeo. Talked to
> Riv yesterday regarding sizing and it sounds like a 57 is best for me.
> now for the big decision- what color? Can anyone post a picture of a
> black Riv with a cream headtube (doesn't have to be a Rodeo) ? I'm
> thinking I will go with black. Or green . Or orange. Or.

Here's what a Saluki looks like in Fairway Green Metallic:
http://www.freewebs.com/palincss/right_side_street_large.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/3956361997/in/set-72157622461091582/

For my money, black looks best without a contrasting head tube, like
Peter Weigle's "Black Tie Affair"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/5107668484/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353...@n00/5209479494/
or my Velo Orange Randonneur
http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/2668211917/in/set-72157606169015639/
Lets the chrome speak for itself...


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Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?

2010-12-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 9:31 AM, Kentileguy  wrote:
> Lots of great opinions, Thanks!
> I think the practical, intelligent thing to do is find a used 58cm
> Ram. Unfortunately I'm suffering from a horrible case of new bike-itis
> and I'm leaning heavily towards a new 57cm quill stem Rodeo. Talked to
> Riv yesterday regarding sizing and it sounds like a 57 is best for me.
> now for the big decision- what color? Can anyone post a picture of a
> black Riv with a cream headtube (doesn't have to be a Rodeo) ? I'm
> thinking I will go with black. Or green . Or orange. Or.
>


Great looking black with cream atlantis:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4296010035/



-sv

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[RBW] Re: Who makes inexpensive custom quill stems?

2010-12-08 Thread Earl Grey
Hhm,

but are reducers to get from a headtube sized for a 1 1/4 inch headset
down to a 1 1/8 headset readily available? And cost for a new fork,
headset and appropriate stem is perhaps more than I want to spend...

Gernot


On Dec 8, 9:24 pm, Ginz  wrote:
> Might be cheapest to replace the fork.  :)
>
> On Dec 7, 9:10 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx monster cross in addition to my Sam that
> > is getting more and more rivvish by the year, but is a size too small.
> > Since the Fisher has a 1 1/4 (!) threaded steerer, finding tall (or
> > any) replacement stems is nigh impossible. I bought a Nitto threaded
> > to threadless converter, but it is disgracefully short, and thus
> > doesn't solve the problem. Seems like a custom 1 1/4 quill stem or
> > selling the frame are the only options. Anyone have any
> > recommendations for a frame builder that makes inexpensive custom
> > quill stems? (It's a cheap frame, so I don't want to throw $200 at the
> > problem.) I could supply a donor quill if that is an issue...
>
> > Thanks,
>
> > Gernot
>
> > PS: Here is a pic:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/
> > With 35 degree, 110mm stem porteur bars are too low and too close, and
> > Noodles or Moustaches are too low and too far away.

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[RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?

2010-12-08 Thread Kentileguy
Lots of great opinions, Thanks!
I think the practical, intelligent thing to do is find a used 58cm
Ram. Unfortunately I'm suffering from a horrible case of new bike-itis
and I'm leaning heavily towards a new 57cm quill stem Rodeo. Talked to
Riv yesterday regarding sizing and it sounds like a 57 is best for me.
now for the big decision- what color? Can anyone post a picture of a
black Riv with a cream headtube (doesn't have to be a Rodeo) ? I'm
thinking I will go with black. Or green . Or orange. Or.

On Dec 6, 5:33 pm, Minh  wrote:
> I'm in the middle of this myself. Is there a more elegant way then
> squeezing?  Do I need to replace the axle.
>
> On Dec 6, 1:27 pm, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
> > You will have no problems installing a 130 wheel in a 135 frame; or
> > vice versa. I've put 110 mm hubs in 126 mm frames (squeeze!).
>
> > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Kentileguy  wrote:
> > > Lots of great input. Thanks! According to Riv's sizing chart I'm right
> > > between a 57 and a 59. I bought Homer used, so I didn't have much
> > > choice. On the plus side, it was local, like new and reasonably
> > > priced. I have no regrets about buying it and after alot of tweaking I
> > > think the fit is just about right. The 7cm stem is probably not ideal
> > > and I am a little leery about squeezing the 135mm rear triangle around
> > > a 130mm hub. I'm not fixated on weight, but I was very surprised at
> > > how much different the lighter wheelset felt. I've considered the Ram
> > > (there's a sweet 58cm orange one on ebay right now), but I thought it
> > > might be too similar to the Homer. Ideally I would test ride a Ram &
> > > Roadeo side by side to be able to form my own opinions, but there's
> > > little chance of that happening, so I'm relying on the collective
> > > wisdom of the group.
> > > Thanks, Ken
>
> > > On Dec 5, 9:09 pm, Bruce  wrote:
> > >> .8/.5/.8 was what they used on Toyo Rams for TT and DT. Isn't Rodeo a tad
> > >> lighter?
>
> > >> 
> > >> From: cyclotourist 
> > >> To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
> > >> Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 9:00:45 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Roadeo vs AHH. Your thoughts?
>
> > >> Yeah, I just don't remember, but thought they were the same tubing...???
>
> > >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Bill M.  wrote:
>
> > >> According to one member of our club (he may chime in here), the Roadeo
>
> > >> >he has now is built lighter than the Ram he once owned.  I believe
> > >> >that Homer would be heavier than either.
>
> > >> >Bill
>
> > >> >On Dec 5, 5:07 pm, cyclotourist  wrote:
> > >> >> Are you sure that the Roadeo has lighter tubing?  I thought at some 
> > >> >> point
> > >> >> the discussion was that they both are built with 8-5-8 maintubes.
> > >> >nch?hl=en.
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[RBW] Re: Who makes inexpensive custom quill stems?

2010-12-08 Thread Ginz
Might be cheapest to replace the fork.  :)

On Dec 7, 9:10 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have a 1990 Fisher Sphinx monster cross in addition to my Sam that
> is getting more and more rivvish by the year, but is a size too small.
> Since the Fisher has a 1 1/4 (!) threaded steerer, finding tall (or
> any) replacement stems is nigh impossible. I bought a Nitto threaded
> to threadless converter, but it is disgracefully short, and thus
> doesn't solve the problem. Seems like a custom 1 1/4 quill stem or
> selling the frame are the only options. Anyone have any
> recommendations for a frame builder that makes inexpensive custom
> quill stems? (It's a cheap frame, so I don't want to throw $200 at the
> problem.) I could supply a donor quill if that is an issue...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gernot
>
> PS: Here is a pic:http://www.flickr.com/photos/25150...@n08/5242295929/
> With 35 degree, 110mm stem porteur bars are too low and too close, and
> Noodles or Moustaches are too low and too far away.

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[RBW] Re: Classic Friction Shifting

2010-12-08 Thread JoelMatthews
I had atrocious bad luck with the second generation Campy Rally.
Bought NOS on eBay first time I used it, it literally came apart.
Possibly there was a bolt missing?  But it came in the sealed Campy
plastic bag.*

I've heard the first generation were better.  Much harder to find,
that is for sure.  Also, a lot better looking.

*n.b.:  I still have the pieces in the Campy bag.  If anyone needs it
for parts, I will send for $7.00 priority mail postage.

On Dec 7, 10:45 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Just arrived from an eBay seller in France:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625550425538/
>
> Classic Italian friction shifting! This goes with the Velo Orange 48/34 
> cransket and a nice big 7s freewheel on one of my retro bikes (lugged steel 
> Benotto).
>
> --Eric N

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[RBW] Re: Classic Friction Shifting

2010-12-08 Thread MichaelH
I still have a mid 80s vintage NR derailler in my parts bin.  I have
great memories of it and would love to use it on a bike today, but it
just doesn't have the capacity my vintage legs need now.  I used it
with a 52/42 and 13-26 and that was about its limit, 23 teeth.   Today
I need about 30 teeth of capacity to get around.  I've thought of
putting a flatlanders bike together but I do live at the bottom of 1
1/2 miles of 8% grade on a dirt road, so it doesn't sound to
practical.

My daughter, now in her mid thirties still rides her brothers first
racing bike, a 1983 Bianchi with a Campy NR groupo. It looks like
hell, which keeps it from being stolen, but she tells me it rides
pretty nicely.

Oh well, enjoy it Eric.

michael

On Dec 7, 11:45 pm, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Just arrived from an eBay seller in France:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625550425538/
>
> Classic Italian friction shifting! This goes with the Velo Orange 48/34 
> cransket and a nice big 7s freewheel on one of my retro bikes (lugged steel 
> Benotto).
>
> --Eric N

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Re: [RBW] Classic Friction Shifting

2010-12-08 Thread MichaelS
I love the looks of the old Rallys.  I put one on my All Rounder when I
first built it up.  I ended up less than pleased with the shifting
performance and switched it out after some time.  It went on ebay and payed
for many vintage Suntour mechs that while not quite having the looks, shift
better by orders of magnitude.

One note:  Find a washer for the mounting bolt before putting it on the
frame.  That snap clip on the bolt will do a number on the hanger tab on
your frame.

Cheers- Mike

On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Eric Norris  wrote:

> Just arrived from an eBay seller in France:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157625550425538/
>
> Classic Italian friction shifting! This goes with the Velo Orange 48/34
> cransket and a nice big 7s freewheel on one of my retro bikes (lugged steel
> Benotto).
>
> --Eric N
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[RBW] Re: What's your winter project?

2010-12-08 Thread Angus
The Sheldon nut should work and you most likely will not have to
shorten the Nitto Mini "bolt."  The portion of the Sheldon nut that
engages the allen key will protrude out of the back of the fork crown.

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/harris/fenders.html

Scroll down about 60% of the way.  The thin bit fits inside the fork
crown, the larger diameter bit ends up outside the fork crown.

Angus

On Dec 7, 7:32 am, William  wrote:
> Gernot
>
> I don't know.  I have much more than 1-2mm of threads engaged as
> pictured.  I'm perfectly fine with the state of the assembly I've
> got.  It's tight and it's not going anywhere.  The nut or the bolt
> would have to explode for anything to fail, and even then, my front
> brake would only be squishy.  I've tried it.  I removed the nut
> entirely and the brake still operates.  I'm satisfied that it won't
> fail and even if it did fail, the bike would be safe to ride home.  If
> I went to a recessed allen solution, I would likely have to cut the
> Nitto Mini bolt down a bit because it would be sticking out too far.
> The recessed allen bolt would bottom out, or the bolt would poke
> through so my allen wrench can no longer be inserted into the cap.
> I've never used a Sheldon nut, and don't know exactly how deep they
> are, but I might have to cut down the bolt to get that to work, too.
>
> On Dec 6, 11:55 pm, Earl Grey  wrote:
>
>
>
> > Hhm, not sure I understand. A Sheldon nut would give you 1-2 mm more
> > thread engagement if using a fender, by mounting the fender tab to the
> > separate fender bolt. 1-2 mm is not enough for me, I don't think. Am I
> > missing something?
>
> > Gernot
>
> > On Dec 7, 4:36 am, William  wrote:
>
> > > Doug
>
> > > A correct point.  It is the same thread as a brake bolt.  My set up
> > > worked as-is, but if I needed more thread engagement, that would be
> > > the way to go.
>
> > > On Dec 6, 11:52 am, Doug Van Cleve  wrote:
>
> > > > Folks,
>
> > > > I may be missing something here since I don't have hands on experience 
> > > > with
> > > > that rack, but I'm pretty sure you can use a normal recessed allen bolt
> > > > (like on any modern sidepull caliper brake) and there is no issue with
> > > > getting everything fastened down.  You might have to drill out the hole 
> > > > in
> > > > the fender mount or use a Sheldon nut from Problem Solvers, but that 
> > > > should
> > > > be it.
>
> > > > Merry Christmas,
> > > > Doug
>
> > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 10:17 AM, William  wrote:
> > > > > I photographed it yesterday just in case someone asked.  I even have a
> > > > > fender in there.  Granted, the bolt does not extend way past the
> > > > > nylock ring, but it's tight.  I have a second hanger that I might face
> > > > > on the mill when I get into the machine shop next.  That ought to get
> > > > > me a little more purchase.
>
> > > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/45758...@n04/5236889932/in/photostream/
>
> > > > > On Dec 6, 8:07 am, Earl Grey  wrote:
> > > > > > William,
>
> > > > > > when I put the Tektro hanger on the Mini Front's bolt, I don't have
> > > > > > enough threads showing on the back of the fork crown to securely
> > > > > > attach the nut. I find it hard to believe the Bomba fork crown is 
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > narrow (front to back) than the Sam's. Did you modify your brake
> > > > > > hanger? Did you get a Mini Front with an extra long bolt, or is mine
> > > > > > extra short? Do you have an pics of your set-up, please?
>
> > > > > > Cheers,
>
> > > > > > Gernot- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

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[RBW] Re: Which Rivendell bike?

2010-12-08 Thread charlie
A Hunk or Bombawith wide as possible tires and MTB gearing
44x32x22 chain rings and 12-32 cassette. If you use a Sugino crank get
the 46x36x24 and use the new Shimano 12-36 cassette. Whatever bar you
like but the Bullmoose style has good break lever ergonomics for down
hill stopping otherwise a mustache bar.

On Dec 7, 1:31 pm, JimP  wrote:
> Which Rivendell bike would you choose for the following:
>
> Approx 3500 acres of Hardwoods and pastures,very hilly with ridges and
> bottoms. Surrounded by asphalt gravel and dirt roads. Horse trails.
> Dowhhill to the bottoms from normal starting point. Long uphill treck
> (~ 1 mile) through pastures back. Dirt road travels to the bottoms so
> you can cross a shallow (~ 1 foot +/-) creek and pedal uphill on the
> dirt road then to asphalt the long way around (4-5 miles) back. A few
> steep hills from the bottoms to the tops of ridges (I would probably
> have to walk the bike up these but going downhill would be fun).
>
> Thoughts? Recommendations?

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