[RBW] Angel Island S24O
One of my 2011 goals was to do 4 S24O's. This was the first. Along with my wife and two kids we voyaged to Angel Island from the East Bay via bike, bart and ferry. Turned out to be a very memorable Mother's Day. The Bombadil and the Gomez did splendidly, as expected. Video proves it happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqgpPRaV6qo -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
JT Do you ride up to the peak in the 42-19 gear? I live a couple of miles from base of Mt Diablo on the Danville side but was always afraid to ride up on my low 44-19. AD On May 8, 10:05 pm, Jeremy Till wrote: > I'd agree that chainline doesn't need to be nuts on on a singlespeed > setup, but for fixed gear riding, especially on rough ground (paved or > no), having a chainline that's within 2-3mm is important, not so much > for efficiency as for preventing the chain coming off under high RPM > pedaling. Had that happen a few times due to bad chainline and it's > not fun. > > My multi-gear derailer-less setup uses a Salsa Casseroll frame (nice > long, sloping, front opening, horizontal dropouts) with a single 42t > chairing (on the inboard shoulder of a sugino xd double with a shimano > 107mm BB), and a Phil QR flip-flop with a 17-19t dingle fixed cog and > a 22t bailout/downhill freewheel. The chainline is setup so the > chainring is just between the chainlines of the two dingle cogs > (around 40mm, IIRC). On the dingle cog the two cogs are even closer > together than on the DOS freewheel, from what I've seen--Surly > recommends (and I use) a narrow 9spd chain. So chainline isn't perfect > there but it is close enough. > > Been using this setup or something similar for a few years now and > really like it. Last weekend I rode it up Mt. Diablo in the 42-19 > gear, flipped to the freewheel to bomb the descent, and then back to > the 42-17 fixed at the bottom for the ride back to the BART. A good > samaritan saw me on the side of the road and asked if i was all right, > and I replied "I'm fine, just shifting gears!" > > On May 8, 7:38 pm, "Bill Gibson (III)" wrote: > > > > > Chainline is not an issue, unless you are a mid-century Brit... I run stock > > chainrings, 32/40 and the 17/19 Dos. The limitation on the Quickbeam is my > > Berthoud fender stays, which, strictly speaking, is not a Quickbeam issue. > > They could be longer, to let me use the whole range. Low-profile fasteners > > and a flaring fenderline allow me to use all the combos, but I rarely do. I > > gut things out. Huh. No problem climbing South Mountain in Phoenix, but soon > > I will build a wheel and play with an SRAM 9-speed internal hub... summer > > fun... seriously, you feel drag on the chainline? What about my internal > > gear friction box? Please, get an ergometer or some sort of watt-o-matic > > meter, and quantify that drag! Chainline is an aesthetic issue, not a drag, > > son. Humph... (Please don't get mad, I'm just playin'...) > > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:34 PM, charlie wrote: > > > It doesn't appear to me that the chain drag would be that > > > noticeable..are you using a regular 8-9 speed chain? > > > > On May 8, 11:58 am, Ron MH wrote: > > > > This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work > > > > out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed > > > > gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency > > > > is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple > > > > combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 > > > > fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the > > > > chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16 > > > > freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White > > > > Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel > > > > places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to > > > > ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. > > > > > Ron > > > > > On May 8, 8:50 am, A D wrote: > > > > > > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > > > > > surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > > > > > the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > > > > > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > > > > > uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > > > > > don't have anywhere to be. > > > > > > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > > > > > prototype appear long enough. > > > > > > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > > > > > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > > > > > I have an Ebisu AR. > > > > > > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > > > > > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a > > > solo 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping > > > gear > > > and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 > > > because I can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open > > > road it's back to 40/16. > > > > > > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > > > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > > > camp
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
I'd agree that chainline doesn't need to be nuts on on a singlespeed setup, but for fixed gear riding, especially on rough ground (paved or no), having a chainline that's within 2-3mm is important, not so much for efficiency as for preventing the chain coming off under high RPM pedaling. Had that happen a few times due to bad chainline and it's not fun. My multi-gear derailer-less setup uses a Salsa Casseroll frame (nice long, sloping, front opening, horizontal dropouts) with a single 42t chairing (on the inboard shoulder of a sugino xd double with a shimano 107mm BB), and a Phil QR flip-flop with a 17-19t dingle fixed cog and a 22t bailout/downhill freewheel. The chainline is setup so the chainring is just between the chainlines of the two dingle cogs (around 40mm, IIRC). On the dingle cog the two cogs are even closer together than on the DOS freewheel, from what I've seen--Surly recommends (and I use) a narrow 9spd chain. So chainline isn't perfect there but it is close enough. Been using this setup or something similar for a few years now and really like it. Last weekend I rode it up Mt. Diablo in the 42-19 gear, flipped to the freewheel to bomb the descent, and then back to the 42-17 fixed at the bottom for the ride back to the BART. A good samaritan saw me on the side of the road and asked if i was all right, and I replied "I'm fine, just shifting gears!" On May 8, 7:38 pm, "Bill Gibson (III)" wrote: > Chainline is not an issue, unless you are a mid-century Brit... I run stock > chainrings, 32/40 and the 17/19 Dos. The limitation on the Quickbeam is my > Berthoud fender stays, which, strictly speaking, is not a Quickbeam issue. > They could be longer, to let me use the whole range. Low-profile fasteners > and a flaring fenderline allow me to use all the combos, but I rarely do. I > gut things out. Huh. No problem climbing South Mountain in Phoenix, but soon > I will build a wheel and play with an SRAM 9-speed internal hub... summer > fun... seriously, you feel drag on the chainline? What about my internal > gear friction box? Please, get an ergometer or some sort of watt-o-matic > meter, and quantify that drag! Chainline is an aesthetic issue, not a drag, > son. Humph... (Please don't get mad, I'm just playin'...) > > > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:34 PM, charlie wrote: > > It doesn't appear to me that the chain drag would be that > > noticeable..are you using a regular 8-9 speed chain? > > > On May 8, 11:58 am, Ron MH wrote: > > > This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work > > > out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed > > > gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency > > > is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple > > > combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 > > > fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the > > > chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16 > > > freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White > > > Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel > > > places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to > > > ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. > > > > Ron > > > > On May 8, 8:50 am, A D wrote: > > > > > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > > > > surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > > > > the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > > > > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > > > > uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > > > > don't have anywhere to be. > > > > > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > > > > prototype appear long enough. > > > > > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > > > > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > > > > I have an Ebisu AR. > > > > > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > > > > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a > > solo 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear > > and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 > > because I can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open > > road it's back to 40/16. > > > > > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > > camp. > > > > > > Aloha, > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike > > wrote: > > > > > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length > > of > > > > > > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI > > 'double/ > > > > > > double', you get to choose between front rings
[RBW] Re: FS - 64cm Trek TX500 Custom, NOS Sugino AT, Phil BB, Nitto Dirt Drop
Hi Marty, Beautifulstill available? Couple questions...top tube length? 700c? Rear spacing? Also, are the brake posts specifically for Paul calipers? If I get the frame/fenders I wouldn't mind converting but am curious. I'd really only need the frame but would love that pump and could find a home for the rest of the parts. If that top tube fits I'll take it. How much to ship to Seattle? Thanks, Rob Markwardt On May 7, 1:40 pm, Marty wrote: > Spring cleaning time - and saving for a Simpleone. I've dropped the > price on my beautifully restored Trek TX500, with "custom" Blackburn > Rando rack (a rear rack adapted for use up front) and Honjo Fenders. > Chris Bishop of Bishop Bikes (winner of best steel bike at this years' > NAHBS) did the framework - adding studs for Paul Racers, fender > eyelets etc. Perfect paint by Circle A, and they added the frame- > matching stripe to the Honjos. Also have a NOS 175mm Sugino AT > crankset (no rings) that would look great on this vintage ride, and > Phil BB with no use (115mm) and a used Nitto Dirt Drop stem with 26mm > clamp from another past build. (Most scratches below the MAX mark) The > bike was shown at last years' Cirque Du Cyclisme, and not ridden. > > Frameset, fenders and rack = $700 and I'll split shipping. > AT Crankset = $75 + $5 shipping > Phil BB = $75 + $5 shipping > Dirt Drop Stem = $30 + $5 shipping > > If anyone wants it all, it's yours for $825 and I'll split shipping & > throw in the matching vintage Silca floor pump that I had Circle A do > at the time they painted the frame & fenders, and is shown in the last > photo of the Flickr set below. It has the same Trek decals on it - so > if you buy the frame - you GOTTA get this! If you only want the frame, > or if other things sell first, I'll negotiate a fair price for the > pump. > > Fist come. first served! PayPal preferred. Shipping on the frame will > have to wait until May 23ish due to travel. Other things can be sent > immediately. Reply offline - thanks. > > http://tinyurl.com/3ru8myv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
If you insist on adding a clothing budget, then don't forget the cost of the racks'n'bags we all love so dearly. A carbonic unobtanium racy bike will have zero cost in that area. And you all thought cost accounting was dull stuff! dougP On May 8, 3:55 pm, Justin August wrote: > And enough riding-specific clothing is recommende d and sold by Riv > that then you'd have to factor that in too... > > On May 8, 5:58 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 13:19 -0700, newenglandbike wrote: > > > Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go > > > with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up > > > fast. > > > Riding attire has nothing at all to do with carbon. I use cycling > > shorts, shoes and jerseys with my steel and titanium bikes, and see no > > reason to feel the slightest bit of shame about it. > > > On the other hand, that stuff lasts a long time if you take care of it.- > > Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Lawyer Lips?
It’s too bad, reading the latest Knothole entry on the Rivendell
website, Grant appears to be stressed out, probably about that legal
case he refers to in RR 43. (It would be funny, considering that a
gaggle of lawyers are working feverishly, perhaps even referring to
“lawyer lips” in their written arguments—except it’s not that funny
when someone is getting dragged into court over something that was
made diligently 20 years ago.)
It is ironic that he would get tied up in something like that. He has
been a proponent of bicycle safety, although he doesn’t necessarily
call it that. It is implicit in the design of his bikes that there is
always a “factor of safety” built in, in other words they are if
anything a little over-built, so that failure of the bike or one of
its parts won’t cause an injury. That’s really one of the main
distinguishing features of his designs, compared to other bikes you
can buy. When I am descending at high speed on my Rivendell, I often
think to myself, this is dangerous but it is nice to know that I am on
the best possible bike for this purpose. In all of Grant’s
“velosophy”, whether it is about bigger tires, steel forks, riding
styles, you name it, there is always an unspoken understanding that
safety is one of the fundamentals.
It’s too bad but that is the way things go sometimes; someone who
dedicates a lot of their life to protecting something gets accused of
neglecting it.
{I guess the legal point is whether Lawyer Lips make a bike safer, and
even if they do whether a bike without them is safe enough. It all
gets very complicated because Grant is the expert on these things, and
he may not have thought that Lawyer Lips made a bike safer. [The ones
on the bike, not the ones on the lawyers.] But as an employee of
Bridgestone, it sounds like it wasn’t even his decision. The RB-1 was
advertised as a racing bike, so it was designed to get the wheel off
quickly. For Pete’s sake, he even had an article on how to use the
Quick Release in one of the Bridgestone catalogues. What else could he
have done? Surely the operator of any vehicle has to take
responsibility for ensuring that the wheels are fastened on as they
were designed to be.[Maybe Grant should get his own lawyer independent
of the Bridgestone lawyer?(After all, he was acting in good faith as
an employee and stood to gain nothing whether or not lawyer's lips
were used. Awww, what a mess.)]}
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Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
Chainline is not an issue, unless you are a mid-century Brit... I run stock chainrings, 32/40 and the 17/19 Dos. The limitation on the Quickbeam is my Berthoud fender stays, which, strictly speaking, is not a Quickbeam issue. They could be longer, to let me use the whole range. Low-profile fasteners and a flaring fenderline allow me to use all the combos, but I rarely do. I gut things out. Huh. No problem climbing South Mountain in Phoenix, but soon I will build a wheel and play with an SRAM 9-speed internal hub... summer fun... seriously, you feel drag on the chainline? What about my internal gear friction box? Please, get an ergometer or some sort of watt-o-matic meter, and quantify that drag! Chainline is an aesthetic issue, not a drag, son. Humph... (Please don't get mad, I'm just playin'...) On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 5:34 PM, charlie wrote: > It doesn't appear to me that the chain drag would be that > noticeable..are you using a regular 8-9 speed chain? > > On May 8, 11:58 am, Ron MH wrote: > > This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work > > out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed > > gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency > > is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple > > combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 > > fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the > > chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16 > > freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White > > Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel > > places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to > > ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. > > > > Ron > > > > On May 8, 8:50 am, A D wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > > > surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > > > the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > > > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > > > uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > > > don't have anywhere to be. > > > > > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > > > prototype appear long enough. > > > > > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > > > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > > > I have an Ebisu AR. > > > > > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > > > > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a > solo 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear > and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 > because I can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open > road it's back to 40/16. > > > > > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > camp. > > > > > > Aloha, > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike > wrote: > > > > > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length > of > > > > > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI > 'double/ > > > > > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the > > > > > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling > span > > > > > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in > the > > > > > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front.Dang. > > > > > > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double > up > > > > > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then > you > > > > > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start > to > > > > > look quaint.* > > > > > > > -Matt > > > > > > > *OK not really > > > > > > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > > > > >> Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup > on their Quickbeam? > > > > >> Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? > > > > > > >> Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and > front of either 38/35 or 34/31. > > > > > > >> They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a > 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly > on-road riding bike. > > > > > > >> Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be > better than 31/19 and 34/16... > > > > > > >> Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be > a great idea? :) > > > > > > >> Best, > > > > >> andrew > > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > rbw-
[RBW] Re: Simpleone Wheels
I think you will want to use symmetrical rims since the wheels should be symmetrical. I'm still waiting to see what Riv comes up with. I want a double sided freewheel hub/rim combo that is serviceable and strong with 36 spokes and a quick release. I don't need a Phil hub or anything that pricey unless it makes a huge difference in reliability and serviceability. I wish we could get a clue as to what they will be offering soon so I can make some decisions. I'm ready to rock and roll asap. On May 8, 7:09 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Thanks for all who responded to my last post about the duomatic hub. > While it seems like a very fun project, I don't want to get into > something that may be finicky and costly in the long run. > I think I'd rather do the double/double set up. > My question is : > > If I use the Synergy rim, is the off-center rear unnecessary with a > single speed drivetrain? > > Does anyone have any other plans for their Simpleone wheels? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Simpleone Wheels
Thanks for all who responded to my last post about the duomatic hub. While it seems like a very fun project, I don't want to get into something that may be finicky and costly in the long run. I think I'd rather do the double/double set up. My question is : If I use the Synergy rim, is the off-center rear unnecessary with a single speed drivetrain? Does anyone have any other plans for their Simpleone wheels? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Today we wrapped up the first Riv Rally East with another spectacular ride. After yesterday's brief brush with heavy weather, we were prepared for more of the same today. Much to our delight we were greeted by the most magnificent weather...Sunny, cloudless blue skies, and cool. We sampled a few of the awesome dirt roads that traverse the hills around Wellsboro. Wow, these roads were beautiful; perfect for a Riv ride...long gradual climbs, deep woods, flowing streams, beautiful vistas, screaming descents... it had it all. Thanks to all who made the long drive out to Wellsboro from distant locations: Bruce Oppenheim and Rick Porter (Cleveland, OH) Steve Palincsar (Alexandria, VA) John Philip (Syracuse, NY) Andy Philip (Washington, DC) Norm Rosenblum (Upper Montclair, NJ) (I drove from Belle Mead, NJ) And SPECIAL THANKS to Wellsboro native Bill Yacovissi, for sharing his love of riding along these beautiful roads in this special region with a bunch of complete strangers... Thanks, Bill !!! (More photos to come - in the mean time Andy Philip posted a few nice ones... Thanks, Andy!! - http://tinyurl.com/3c2b8ly) Peace, BB On May 7, 10:43 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the > beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group > numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and > Washington DC. > > The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of > the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first > 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the > BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind > and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! > > The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek > shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather > turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central > PA. > > It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group > enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. > By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is > definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. > > Here are a few pics...http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty > > Peace, > BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne for the hills?
Whoo-hoo, when's delivery??? On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 7:42 AM, TSW wrote: > Thanks for all the replies! I was at Riv yesterday and asked them for > a steep hill or two to climb. Tho' I'm just on the other side of the > Culture-stop tunnel :-) I'm not terribly familiar with the area, like, > how to get to that little known hill known as Mt Diablo. So who got > on a bike to take me for a ride but Grant himself. He was on a single > speed of some kind, cruiser style, but double top tube to be sure, and > I took out the same 52 Sam I'd take out before. And we went up some > very steep hills, paths, and a road to a nearby water tank with views > of hwy 24 and Walnut Creek. I've been off my bike since early Feb and > I could barely keep up with him on some ascents, and I'm in decent > shape (just not bike shape). He's clearly in more decent shape. > > I think it doesn't climb quite like my Trek, but it's far better than > the LHT. I just needed to be sure, as later I did the deed- Yikes! > (The last time I bought a road bike was in 1986, and I spent 10%-- non- > inflation adjusted). I decided to get the front rack and cream > longboard fenders to get a really good swallow of the koolaid. > > So I left with a cake of pine soap, a Riv-branded plastic change > purse, my credit card a bit lighter, and, later, growing feelings of > anticipation. > > On May 4, 6:30 pm, EricP wrote: > > I don't find the Sam Hillborne bad at hill climbing. Although with > > the longer chainstays, it isn't the quickest thing in the world. Will > > probably feel slower than your Trek. And, like Patrick, I can feel a > > bit of wheel flop at certain speeds, and with certain tires. With my > > style of riding, it really doesn't become an issue. Spent Sunday > > climbing quite a few hills and at no time did the bike wander to the > > point where I felt unsafe, even on roads with traffic and minimal > > shoulders for riding. > > > > And compared to the LHT the Rivendell is a more spirited climber. > > Also happen to own a 26 inch wheel LHT and while stable and > > predictible, it will definitely not win any hill climbing contests. > > Unless of course, your opponent is on a Bakfiets. > > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > > On May 4, 9:53 am, TSW wrote: > > > > > Hi all, > > > I've searched all over forum archives and can't seem to find much > > > discussion on this question: how does the Sam climb? > > > > > I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a 52 (ideally I'd ride a 54, > > > and 56 is just a tad too big), my 26 yr old Trek 560 ready to retire, > > > and I'm used to a more aggressive geometry for climbing the hills > > > around here. I'll need to to test ride a Sam again, as Riv HQ isn't > > > too handy to a steep hill. I took out a Surly LHT (52/26 in) recently > > > up a fairly steep hill and found it sluggish. > > > > > But in the meantime, I wonder what're folks' thoughts on how the Sam > > > does on hills. > > > > > TIA, > > > TS > > > Berkeley > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Looks like the link for the RR preview was removed? Am I not looking in the right place? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne for the hills?
Its my thought that a "bike" climbs about as good as the legs powering it ! I know without any doubts that when I was 21 years of age I could climb a local hill on my then Bianchi road bike in a 42x24 ratio. These days I would have to use a 22x32 or suffer a heart attack. On May 8, 7:42 am, TSW wrote: > Thanks for all the replies! I was at Riv yesterday and asked them for > a steep hill or two to climb. Tho' I'm just on the other side of the > Culture-stop tunnel :-) I'm not terribly familiar with the area, like, > how to get to that little known hill known as Mt Diablo. So who got > on a bike to take me for a ride but Grant himself. He was on a single > speed of some kind, cruiser style, but double top tube to be sure, and > I took out the same 52 Sam I'd take out before. And we went up some > very steep hills, paths, and a road to a nearby water tank with views > of hwy 24 and Walnut Creek. I've been off my bike since early Feb and > I could barely keep up with him on some ascents, and I'm in decent > shape (just not bike shape). He's clearly in more decent shape. > > I think it doesn't climb quite like my Trek, but it's far better than > the LHT. I just needed to be sure, as later I did the deed- Yikes! > (The last time I bought a road bike was in 1986, and I spent 10%-- non- > inflation adjusted). I decided to get the front rack and cream > longboard fenders to get a really good swallow of the koolaid. > > So I left with a cake of pine soap, a Riv-branded plastic change > purse, my credit card a bit lighter, and, later, growing feelings of > anticipation. > > On May 4, 6:30 pm, EricP wrote: > > > > > > > > > I don't find the Sam Hillborne bad at hill climbing. Although with > > the longer chainstays, it isn't the quickest thing in the world. Will > > probably feel slower than your Trek. And, like Patrick, I can feel a > > bit of wheel flop at certain speeds, and with certain tires. With my > > style of riding, it really doesn't become an issue. Spent Sunday > > climbing quite a few hills and at no time did the bike wander to the > > point where I felt unsafe, even on roads with traffic and minimal > > shoulders for riding. > > > And compared to the LHT the Rivendell is a more spirited climber. > > Also happen to own a 26 inch wheel LHT and while stable and > > predictible, it will definitely not win any hill climbing contests. > > Unless of course, your opponent is on a Bakfiets. > > > Eric Platt > > St. Paul, MN > > > On May 4, 9:53 am, TSW wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > I've searched all over forum archives and can't seem to find much > > > discussion on this question: how does the Sam climb? > > > > I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a 52 (ideally I'd ride a 54, > > > and 56 is just a tad too big), my 26 yr old Trek 560 ready to retire, > > > and I'm used to a more aggressive geometry for climbing the hills > > > around here. I'll need to to test ride a Sam again, as Riv HQ isn't > > > too handy to a steep hill. I took out a Surly LHT (52/26 in) recently > > > up a fairly steep hill and found it sluggish. > > > > But in the meantime, I wonder what're folks' thoughts on how the Sam > > > does on hills. > > > > TIA, > > > TS > > > Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
It doesn't appear to me that the chain drag would be that noticeable..are you using a regular 8-9 speed chain? On May 8, 11:58 am, Ron MH wrote: > This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work > out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed > gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency > is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple > combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 > fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the > chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16 > freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White > Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel > places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to > ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. > > Ron > > On May 8, 8:50 am, A D wrote: > > > > > > > > > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > > surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > > the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > > uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > > don't have anywhere to be. > > > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > > prototype appear long enough. > > > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > > I have an Ebisu AR. > > > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo > > > 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear > > > and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 > > > because I can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open > > > road it's back to 40/16. > > > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > > > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > > > camp. > > > > Aloha, > > > > Bob > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike > > > wrote: > > > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of > > > > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI 'double/ > > > > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the > > > > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span > > > > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the > > > > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front. Dang. > > > > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up > > > > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you > > > > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to > > > > look quaint.* > > > > > -Matt > > > > > *OK not really > > > > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > > > >> Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on > > > >> their Quickbeam? > > > >> Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? > > > > >> Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front > > > >> of either 38/35 or 34/31. > > > > >> They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a > > > >> 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c > > > >> mostly on-road riding bike. > > > > >> Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better > > > >> than 31/19 and 34/16... > > > > >> Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a > > > >> great idea? :) > > > > >> Best, > > > >> andrew > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
I just read that the quick release was invented precisely because Campagnolo couldn't change his fixed gears in the cold. The combination of frozen fingers and wingnuts was too difficult. Philip Philip Williamson www.bikebureau.com On May 8, 3:58 pm, Justin August wrote: > The new VeloOrange wing nuts seem like they'd help with the changing > of gears. > > On May 8, 11:50 am, A D wrote: > > > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > > surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > > the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > > uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > > don't have anywhere to be. > > > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > > prototype appear long enough. > > > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > > I have an Ebisu AR. > > > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo > > > 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear > > > and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 > > > because I can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open > > > road it's back to 40/16. > > > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > > > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > > > camp. > > > > Aloha, > > > > Bob > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike > > > wrote: > > > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of > > > > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI 'double/ > > > > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the > > > > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span > > > > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the > > > > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front. Dang. > > > > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up > > > > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you > > > > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to > > > > look quaint.* > > > > > -Matt > > > > > *OK not really > > > > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > > > >> Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on > > > >> their Quickbeam? > > > >> Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? > > > > >> Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front > > > >> of either 38/35 or 34/31. > > > > >> They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a > > > >> 29'er... but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c > > > >> mostly on-road riding bike. > > > > >> Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better > > > >> than 31/19 and 34/16... > > > > >> Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a > > > >> great idea? :) > > > > >> Best, > > > >> andrew > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group > > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
The new VeloOrange wing nuts seem like they'd help with the changing of gears. On May 8, 11:50 am, A D wrote: > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > don't have anywhere to be. > > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > prototype appear long enough. > > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > I have an Ebisu AR. > > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > > > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 22 > > back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear and > > facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 because I > > can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open road it's > > back to 40/16. > > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > > camp. > > > Aloha, > > > Bob > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of > > > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI 'double/ > > > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the > > > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span > > > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the > > > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front. Dang. > > > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up > > > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you > > > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to > > > look quaint.* > > > > -Matt > > > > *OK not really > > > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > > >> Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on > > >> their Quickbeam? > > >> Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? > > > >> Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front > > >> of either 38/35 or 34/31. > > > >> They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... > > >> but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly > > >> on-road riding bike. > > > >> Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than > > >> 31/19 and 34/16... > > > >> Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a > > >> great idea? :) > > > >> Best, > > >> andrew > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
And enough riding-specific clothing is recommende d and sold by Riv that then you'd have to factor that in too... On May 8, 5:58 pm, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 13:19 -0700, newenglandbike wrote: > > Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go > > with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up > > fast. > > Riding attire has nothing at all to do with carbon. I use cycling > shorts, shoes and jerseys with my steel and titanium bikes, and see no > reason to feel the slightest bit of shame about it. > > On the other hand, that stuff lasts a long time if you take care of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
RM, Can you post a picture of this set-up? It would help me figure out how to fix this (pardon the pun ;-)). On May 8, 12:14 pm, RM wrote: > I have an old bottom bracket nut on the freewheel-side hub threads before the > cog (14t in my case) which corrects the fixed chain line by moving the cog > out 5mm. Been running it this way for 2 years with no problems. It's smoother > and quieter than the 16/19 on the freewheel side. I only run the fixed cog > with the 40t chainring. > > Rob > > On May 8, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Ron MH wrote: > > > > > This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work > > out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed > > gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency > > is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple > > combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 > > fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the > > chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16 > > freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White > > Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel > > places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to > > ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. > > > Ron > > > On May 8, 8:50 am, A D wrote: > >> On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > >> surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > >> the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > >> and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > >> uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > >> don't have anywhere to be. > > >> I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > >> prototype appear long enough. > > >> There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > >> figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > >> I have an Ebisu AR. > > >> On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > >>> My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo > >>> 22 back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear > >>> and facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 > >>> because I can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open > >>> road it's back to 40/16. > > >>> Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > >>> commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > >>> camp. > > >>> Aloha, > > >>> Bob > > >>> Sent from my iPad > > >>> On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike > >>> wrote: > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI 'double/ > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front. Dang. > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to > look quaint.* > > -Matt > > *OK not really > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > > Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on > > their Quickbeam? > > Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? > > > Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front > > of either 38/35 or 34/31. > > > They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... > > but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly > > on-road riding bike. > > > Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better > > than 31/19 and 34/16... > > > Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a > > great idea? :) > > > Best, > > andrew > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit t
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 09:56 -0700, charlie wrote: > Now this looks like fun...riding, "swimming", camping, wow ! You > probably wouldn't do a ride like this very comfortably with > Lycra,carbon, skinny tires and no camping gear. We stayed in a nice motel in Wellsboro, so no camping. And I'm happy to report, nobody fell into the river so we never got beyond wading. Not to say there weren't a couple of anxious moments - the current was quite a bit stronger than I expected. But it would have taken a real expert to do this ride, or the one we did today, on 23mm or even 25mm tires. I have no doubt such experts exist, as I know at least one rider has done the Deerfield Dirt Road Randonnee (and the 100 mi version, too) on 23mm tires. I was quite happy to have my 42mm Hetres, and thought they were just perfect. As for lycra - I thought it was pretty chilly up in Wellsboro. It was 43 degrees when we started riding this morning, although we did warm up pretty quickly once we started climbing the mountain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 11:13 -0700, grant wrote: > Yeah, but it's not the Official one...just a stopgap. There are a > couple other things that'll change for the Permanent Paper addition. > Edition. The math reference shifted me wrongly there. The tradition of > pre-paper issues is good, though, so things like this can be caught. > Thanks. The $10 never did seem quite right, but if you account for > medical bills that may arise from riding carbon, I think we could get > it up to $10 or even more, per ride. I know lots of people, myself included, who have had medical bills resulting from cycling. I even had a friend die in a cycling accident. I've been riding with bicycle clubs virtually every weekend, and commuting, since 1972 and I know lots of cyclists. But I have never met one single cyclist who had medical bills that could be attributed to riding carbon. In fact, I've never met a single cyclist who had as much as a scratch that could be attributed to riding carbon. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 13:19 -0700, newenglandbike wrote: > Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go > with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up > fast. Riding attire has nothing at all to do with carbon. I use cycling shorts, shoes and jerseys with my steel and titanium bikes, and see no reason to feel the slightest bit of shame about it. On the other hand, that stuff lasts a long time if you take care of it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Mothers Day 100k...wait. 50k
Oh and I wore my Outlier short stack merino tee. Simply put: the best merino wool clothing I've ever worn. Perfect out of the box. On May 8, 5:49 pm, Justin August wrote: > Today I was feeling a little bummed and decided to go for a long ride. > Ended up planning to do My first 100k. Sadly I ended up having an > intense flare-up of knee pain and had to take the R6 back to Philly. > Ended up feeling great about the 50k I rode and got a lot of weird > looks from the spandex n plastic crew. Had to amazing meals. Breakfast > sliders and a chicken tinga burrito. Mm > > http://flic.kr/s/aHsjuH1X3S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Mothers Day 100k...wait. 50k
Today I was feeling a little bummed and decided to go for a long ride. Ended up planning to do My first 100k. Sadly I ended up having an intense flare-up of knee pain and had to take the R6 back to Philly. Ended up feeling great about the 50k I rode and got a lot of weird looks from the spandex n plastic crew. Had to amazing meals. Breakfast sliders and a chicken tinga burrito. Mm http://flic.kr/s/aHsjuH1X3S -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Decaleur substitute
This just in: the new "decaleur" performed well today on the 8-mile inbound leg to church (late, grievously late, alas, but our new priest is so *&*!^ longwinded! so I cut myself a bit of slack. Anyway ...) carrying a 3 1/2 lb chain and lock combo and a 12 oz key combo in the Lafamu bag, attached at the headset top race with a bolt thru the VO bell mount and, at the bottom, strapped tightly to the vertical rear rack frame. (I left the lock at church so the bag had only 12 oz of keys in it for the return.) So the device works very well holding a total of 5 1/2 lb steady on the little rack. I noticed hardly any difference in handling. Later I went to my local True Value and bought a much delayed jigsaw ($25; thank you still-willing cheap Chinese labor), some metal blades and a 3" X 6" sheet of 2 mm thick aluminum out of which I plan to cut a "T" to replace the single strut in the photo; the bottom of the T will be riveted to the cross-piece of the bag and I will bolt the top to the VO bell mount as before. This ought to prevent flop occuring when the single 4 mm allen bolt holding the strut on ineluctably loosens. Photos to come. But the Strut did prove the basic soundness of the design. And, note: a sturdy bag connection does not require strapping the bottom of the bag to the rack: just bolt to the bell mount and slide the strap over the vertical part of the rack. (In other news: was pleased to see that, after riding most of 8 miles home against a stiffish headwind in the hooks of the lowish bars, I felt perfectly comfortable.) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up fast.I, on the other hand (and I'm sure I'm not alone) can feel perfectly comfortable riding a steel bike in any old Versace pinstripe fitted suit from the latest collection. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up fast.I, on the other hand, can feel perfectly comfortable riding a steel bike in any Versace pinstripe fitted suit. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis setup help
Good luck, and let us know what happens. The rearward saddle is not only useful for an aero or low bar position; if you look at the old "bobby" bikes, aka 3d world roadsters, they have stems with almost no extension because the rod activated brakes can't deal with it. But they have immensely slack seat tube angles, so that even with a Brooks on a straight up and down seat pin your hips are well behind the bb. At any rate, do get your saddle height and fore-and-aft in the right place before deciding where to put the bar; don't use saddle adjustment to adjust reach to bar! IME -- and I've ridden a huge number of bikes of poor to excellent quality, though, honestly, only two true racing bike and those were old fashion stage race '73 Motobecane and a '89 Falcon, both with long stays and slack seat angles -- if you can get your saddle right with regard to the pedals, you will have a powerful and comfortable stroke and, second, the basis for a comfortable upper body when you position the bar and hoods correctly relative to this properly positioned saddle. Just for fun: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hillview7/1566909927/in/pool-634483@N20/ And this short from classic British drama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg At about 4:54 you will see the "Bobby bike" in action. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up fast.I, on the other hand, can feel perfectly comfortable riding a steel bike in any Versace pinstripe fitted suit. Matt On May 6, 2:24 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Nice buncha articles, tho' Grant's predilections come out strong. > (Yay for fast, skinny tires! Yay for lower bars! Yay for race-type > bikes with fenders, racks, bags, dynolights -- esp if you can "match" > yer bags. Any YAY for good beer, home-made bread, lots of pasta and > sugar in my coffee!) > > Anyway: I was particularly pleased with the interview with BS who > comes across as less of an asshol* than you just might presume from > his, admittedly very funny, blogs, and who also comes across as, > undeniable, intelligent and, for our dismally uncultured age, > literate. Kudos to R, RR and GP for this interview. > > Patrick "my bars range from 2" below to 3" above saddle, my tires from > 22 mm to 65 mm" Moore > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Well, I guess you have to figure in the cost of riding attire to go with the carbon. Shoes, jerseys, etc. Seems like it could add up fast.I, on the other hand, feel perfectly comfortable riding in my Versace pinstripe fitted suit. Matt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
I have an old bottom bracket nut on the freewheel-side hub threads before the cog (14t in my case) which corrects the fixed chain line by moving the cog out 5mm. Been running it this way for 2 years with no problems. It's smoother and quieter than the 16/19 on the freewheel side. I only run the fixed cog with the 40t chainring. Rob On May 8, 2011, at 11:58 AM, Ron MH wrote: > This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work > out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed > gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency > is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple > combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 > fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the > chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16 > freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White > Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel > places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to > ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. > > Ron > > On May 8, 8:50 am, A D wrote: >> On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 >> surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on >> the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell >> and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly >> uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I >> don't have anywhere to be. >> >> I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my >> prototype appear long enough. >> >> There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't >> figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though >> I have an Ebisu AR. >> >> On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: >> >> >> >>> My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 22 >>> back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear and >>> facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 because I >>> can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open road it's >>> back to 40/16. >> >>> Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in >>> commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I >>> camp. >> >>> Aloha, >> >>> Bob >> >>> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike wrote: >> It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI 'double/ double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front.Dang. >> So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to look quaint.* >> -Matt >> *OK not really >> On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on > their Quickbeam? > Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? >> > Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of > either 38/35 or 34/31. >> > They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... > but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road > riding bike. >> > Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than > 31/19 and 34/16... >> > Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great > idea? :) >> > Best, > andrew >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from thi
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
This question is to all. How does the fixed gear side chainline work out with the various combinations you use? I ask because the fixed gear chainline on my Quickbeam sucks and the drag/lack of efficiency is easy to feel. I'm running the stock bashguard/40/32 Sugino triple combination and a 16t fixed cog in back. The chainline on the 40x16 fixed combination is more than 5mm off (the cog being inboard of the chainring). And the fixed setup is much more "draggy" than the 40x16 freewheel combination on the other side when using the 16-19 White Industries DOS freewheel. Of course, that's because the DOS freewheel places the 16t cog further outboard. The whole issue has me about to ditch the Sugino triple in favor of a decent single speed crankset. Ron On May 8, 8:50 am, A D wrote: > On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 > surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on > the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell > and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly > uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I > don't have anywhere to be. > > I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my > prototype appear long enough. > > There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't > figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though > I have an Ebisu AR. > > On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > > > > > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 22 > > back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear and > > facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 because I > > can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open road it's > > back to 40/16. > > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in > > commuter mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I > > camp. > > > Aloha, > > > Bob > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of > > > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI 'double/ > > > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the > > > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span > > > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the > > > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front. Dang. > > > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up > > > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you > > > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to > > > look quaint.* > > > > -Matt > > > > *OK not really > > > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > > >> Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on > > >> their Quickbeam? > > >> Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? > > > >> Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front > > >> of either 38/35 or 34/31. > > > >> They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... > > >> but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly > > >> on-road riding bike. > > > >> Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than > > >> 31/19 and 34/16... > > > >> Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a > > >> great idea? :) > > > >> Best, > > >> andrew > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > For more options, visit this group > > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Hillborne for the hills?
Ahh, yeah. That's what happens... > > I decided to get the front rack and cream >longboard fenders to get a really good swallow of the koolaid. > >So I left with a cake of pine soap, a Riv-branded plastic change >purse, my credit card a bit lighter, and, later, growing feelings of >anticipation. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
BC, The IRD Aplina is not a copy of the Ultegra. I used it to replace a 9-speed Ultegra on a 48-34-24 set up. The Ultegra was VERY fussy to get working. I literally bolted the IRD in place, adjusted the stops and it works perfectly. All that said, I tried one on my wife's new Ebisu All-Purpose and it didn't work well. I played with it for a while. I ended up changing it to a Shimano FD-4403 Tiagra. The Tiagra was modified to match the chainring radius. These are indexed bicycles. You need to get a front derailleur that matches the chainring radius. Sometimes it takes a swap ot two too get it right. Bill Watsonvillle, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne for the hills?
Thanks for all the replies! I was at Riv yesterday and asked them for a steep hill or two to climb. Tho' I'm just on the other side of the Culture-stop tunnel :-) I'm not terribly familiar with the area, like, how to get to that little known hill known as Mt Diablo. So who got on a bike to take me for a ride but Grant himself. He was on a single speed of some kind, cruiser style, but double top tube to be sure, and I took out the same 52 Sam I'd take out before. And we went up some very steep hills, paths, and a road to a nearby water tank with views of hwy 24 and Walnut Creek. I've been off my bike since early Feb and I could barely keep up with him on some ascents, and I'm in decent shape (just not bike shape). He's clearly in more decent shape. I think it doesn't climb quite like my Trek, but it's far better than the LHT. I just needed to be sure, as later I did the deed- Yikes! (The last time I bought a road bike was in 1986, and I spent 10%-- non- inflation adjusted). I decided to get the front rack and cream longboard fenders to get a really good swallow of the koolaid. So I left with a cake of pine soap, a Riv-branded plastic change purse, my credit card a bit lighter, and, later, growing feelings of anticipation. On May 4, 6:30 pm, EricP wrote: > I don't find the Sam Hillborne bad at hill climbing. Although with > the longer chainstays, it isn't the quickest thing in the world. Will > probably feel slower than your Trek. And, like Patrick, I can feel a > bit of wheel flop at certain speeds, and with certain tires. With my > style of riding, it really doesn't become an issue. Spent Sunday > climbing quite a few hills and at no time did the bike wander to the > point where I felt unsafe, even on roads with traffic and minimal > shoulders for riding. > > And compared to the LHT the Rivendell is a more spirited climber. > Also happen to own a 26 inch wheel LHT and while stable and > predictible, it will definitely not win any hill climbing contests. > Unless of course, your opponent is on a Bakfiets. > > Eric Platt > St. Paul, MN > > On May 4, 9:53 am, TSW wrote: > > > Hi all, > > I've searched all over forum archives and can't seem to find much > > discussion on this question: how does the Sam climb? > > > I'm very close to pulling the trigger on a 52 (ideally I'd ride a 54, > > and 56 is just a tad too big), my 26 yr old Trek 560 ready to retire, > > and I'm used to a more aggressive geometry for climbing the hills > > around here. I'll need to to test ride a Sam again, as Riv HQ isn't > > too handy to a steep hill. I took out a Surly LHT (52/26 in) recently > > up a fairly steep hill and found it sluggish. > > > But in the meantime, I wonder what're folks' thoughts on how the Sam > > does on hills. > > > TIA, > > TS > > Berkeley -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: SimpleOne and Double/Double
On my Simpleone I have a dos 16/19 on the freewheel side and a 17/19 surly dingle cog on the fixed side. In front I have 44/48 rings on the front. I use the 48/16 when I commute and ride down to Rivendell and change gears to 44/19 when I go back home which is mostly uphill. I usually flip to the fixed side on weekend rides when I don't have anywhere to be. I haven't tried the extremes of the gears but the dropouts on my prototype appear long enough. There is just something about the Qb/SO that feels so right. I can't figure it out but it has me considering picking up an AHH even though I have an Ebisu AR. On May 7, 6:54 pm, Robert Harrison wrote: > My QB has a 40/32 in front and the 16/19 in the rear. It also has a solo 22 > back the which does come in handy when laden down with camping gear and > facing a couple of hills around here. In town I tend to run 40/19 because I > can get "off the line" faster in traffic. Once out on the open road it's back > to 40/16. > > Not thinking about what gear I'm in is great. During the week I'm in commuter > mode, on weekend it's open road mode and maybe once a quarter I camp. > > Aloha, > > Bob > > Sent from my iPad > > On May 7, 2011, at 11:00 AM, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > > It is a cool concept, made even cooler, IMHO, by the copious length of > > the QB dropout. It's about 2". So, whereas with the WI 'double/ > > double', you get to choose between front rings 3-teeth apart, the > > extra length of the Rivendell dropout gives you a mind-boggling span > > of 8 teeth to play with on the front rings-- and with the 16/19 in the > > rear, you can make that up to 11 teeth diff up front. Dang. > > > So basically, you can run a 16/19 in the rear, and a 40/32 double up > > front, which comes stock with the new Simple One I believe. Then you > > put a 22t ACS f/w on the other side, and suddenly derailleurs start to > > look quaint.* > > > -Matt > > > *OK not really > > > On May 7, 4:50 pm, andrew hill wrote: > >> Has anyone run a White Industries "Double/Double" drivetrain setup on > >> their Quickbeam? > >> Or maybe has plans to on their SimpleOne? > > >> Seems like a nice combination - rear Duo freewheel of 16/19, and front of > >> either 38/35 or 34/31. > > >> They suggest the 38/35 for a 26" mtn bike, and the 38/35 for a 29'er... > >> but it seems to me that the 38/35 would be best for a 700c mostly on-road > >> riding bike. > > >> Am I confused? e.g. 38/16 and 35/19 seem like they would be better than > >> 31/19 and 34/16... > > >> Anyone try this yet, or have a thought as to why this wouldn't be a great > >> idea? :) > > >> Best, > >> andrew > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Yeah, but it's not the Official one...just a stopgap. There are a couple other things that'll change for the Permanent Paper addition. Edition. The math reference shifted me wrongly there. The tradition of pre-paper issues is good, though, so things like this can be caught. Thanks. The $10 never did seem quite right, but if you account for medical bills that may arise from riding carbon, I think we could get it up to $10 or even more, per ride. G On May 8, 5:46 am, Earl Grey wrote: > Good stuff as always. Too bad about the math error in the price per > ride piece. I almost don't want to point it out since it seems to have > gone unnoticed so far. The difference in price per ride, with Grant's > conservative numbers, is only a little more than one order of > magnitude, not two: Compared to the carbon bikes $10/ride, the > expensive steel bike is > > 250 rides per year * 20 years = 5000 rides > > 5000 rides / $4000 = $0.80 per ride, NOT $0.09 > > On the other hand, I doubt that most carbon race bikes outside of the > Southwest and California get ridden 50 weeks out of the year, which > would further increase the cost per ride. > > My $2000 Sam Hillborne gets ridden 8-12 times a week (if you count > each commute leg separately, plus one or two fun rides plus errands) > so for the past year and a half that I have owned it, I am already > down to about $2.67 a ride (10 rides x 50 weeks x 1.5 years), and > dropping. > > Cheers, > > Gernot > > On May 7, 1:24 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > Nice buncha articles, tho' Grant's predilections come out strong. > > (Yay for fast, skinny tires! Yay for lower bars! Yay for race-type > > bikes with fenders, racks, bags, dynolights -- esp if you can "match" > > yer bags. Any YAY for good beer, home-made bread, lots of pasta and > > sugar in my coffee!) > > > Anyway: I was particularly pleased with the interview with BS who > > comes across as less of an asshol* than you just might presume from > > his, admittedly very funny, blogs, and who also comes across as, > > undeniable, intelligent and, for our dismally uncultured age, > > literate. Kudos to R, RR and GP for this interview. > > > Patrick "my bars range from 2" below to 3" above saddle, my tires from > > 22 mm to 65 mm" Moore > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > Blazing high above your head; > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > When all the stars are dead. > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Acorn Boxy Rando bag
Yup, I'm using a Velo Orange decaleur that fits on the steerer tube. Swift had the bag on hand, so no wait! (I didn't care what it looked like; that said, it looks great!). Alex Wetmore has a nice writeup for a similar setup: http://alexwetmore.org/?p=439 The real trick for me is getting the bag away from the bars so it doesn't interfere with hands on top, so either the bag has to be below the handlebars (which can be tough when the bag is tall or the bars aren't really high) or pushed away an inch or so by the decaleur. I compared the top to bottom measurement for the bag and then from the rack to the decaleur. You've got the bars pretty high so I don't think that interference with the bars (or, in your case, the interrupter levers) will be a problem. The Velo Orange decaleur that mounts to a 1" headset stack on your Hilsen would work well, I think. A Berthoud decaleur (which mounts to the stem bolt) might not be long enough with the Swift bag (because you've got a long way from the stem to the rack). I love that bike by the way. Ryan On May 7, 9:50 pm, Zaelia wrote: > Hi Ryan: > > Looks very nice. Mind me asking what your setup is and how long it > took to receive your Swift Ozette after placing your order? Is that a > Velo Orange decaleur kit? Would you be willing to write a little > something outlining the setup process? > > Thanks > > On May 6, 5:26 pm, rcnute wrote: > > > I just got one. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/30684316@N08/5682342304/in/photostream > > > Ryan > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis setup help
Thanks Patrick, I was just on Peter White's website looking for more information before I got your response. You were right to send me there. I know these are just normal first setup woes that I am contending with here. I'll figure it out. You advice and anyone else who chimes in is surely helpful. I understand the connection between the saddle pushed back and balancing a more aero postion. I think my problem is slightly different. I took the seat and seatpost plust 10cm stem and drop bars off a bike with a 56cm top tube and put them on the Atlantis with it's 55cm top tube. Same height on both. The Atlantis has a .5 degree steeper seat tube as well. This tells me that I might need to push the seat back further to make up for that 1cm plus the diff in seat tube. In practice it doesn't equate. Old bike rode great. Atlantis feels like the back end in sinking, or im riding on a flat tire (im not 60psi before and after ride). This is especially present when climbing a hill. It is as if there was a plumb line from my sit bones to the earth and that spot in the ground is thick mud. When I look at the bike in profile the saddle is slightly higher than the bars, yet in practice It rides like the seat it about 6cm lower than the bars. To try and fix the situation I thought, okay maybe I need to adjust the weight more toward the front so I switched seat posts out for one with less set back and lowered the stem an extra cm - slight improvement. This is the first fat 26 inch wheeled bike that I have ridden in a long time. Could it be just the difference in wheel diameter that gives a different ride? I am going to move the bars to a much lower position (I would try a 120 stem in place of the 110 but I don't have one and it's a pain to rewrap the bars how I like them set up). I will report back. On May 7, 7:29 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > I forgot to add that the remarks below apply, in my case, even to my > Fargo with 65 mm wide tires that I run as low as 12 front/16 rear for > our local sand -- no, it's not a question of tire pressure. > > > > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 5:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > Can you post photos? What sort of bars and what sort of stem? > > > Do you feel as if you are sitting so upright that you can't generate > > adequate power on the pedals? > > > Just possibly your saddle needs to go back on the rails. I've found > > that a rearward saddle position works well -- that is, gives me a > > comfortable back, moderates the weight on shoulders, arms and hands, > > and gives me the most power for a given effort -- with bars of > > surprisingly different altitudes, from 5 cm below to 8 cm above the > > saddle. There seems to be, for me, a certain angle of torso to > > hips/legs that I need for said comfort and power, and if that angle is > > too shallow, it doesn't matter how high or low the bars, all feels > > awkward. > > > You might take a look at Peter Jon White's site on bike setup, > > particularly the part on fore-and-aft saddle position. (PJW's site is > > wordy and rather hard to navigate, but the content is worth the > > effort.) > > > On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 4:54 PM, JL wrote: > >> Hello all, > > >> I am looking for some advice with setting up a new to me Atlantis. > >> The problem I am having is that the saddle feels so low compared to > >> the front end. Almost like I am riding a chopper-bike. It is the > >> strangest thing and I want help to fix the situation. I tried > >> lowering the bars - that didn't help. I moved my saddle slightly > >> forward from how I would normally ride it and switched to a seat post > >> with less setback -that helped some. Could the tire compression in > >> the rear add that much into the mix (26x1.75)? I am accustomed to big > >> soft tires (hetres) and the Atlantis has a steeper seat tube than > >> other bikes I am comfortable on. > > >> Does anyone have any suggestions? > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > Blazing high above your head; > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > When all the stars are dead. > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You receive
[RBW] Re: Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15
Yeah, new ones, when available, are pricey. Ben's Cycle and Alex's Cycle appear to have them, though. I suspect I'll get one from one of those places if the need (e.g. a second RBW bike) arise. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 8, 8:52 am, Marty wrote: > I really like the R-15 too. In fact, if anyone has a spare, let me > know, I'll take it off your hands. > > Marty > > On May 7, 7:21 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > > > Hi! > > > I really like my Nitto R-15 rack. It's basically an R-14 with pannier > > supports: > > >http://db.tt/q5cZmYx > > > But what it doesn't have is pannier anchors for the bottom. And though I > > know that aren't absolutely essential, I do like using my TourSacks' bungee > > ball lower attachments for stabilization. > > > So now I have this: > > >http://db.tt/Nqvjvt6 > > > Those are just the Nitto band clamps that RBW sells. And though the whole > > area looks a little "busy" there, the clamps thenselves don't look too bad. > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Now this looks like fun...riding, "swimming", camping, wow ! You probably wouldn't do a ride like this very comfortably with Lycra,carbon, skinny tires and no camping gear. On May 7, 7:43 pm, Montclair BobbyB wrote: > Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the > beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group > numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and > Washington DC. > > The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of > the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first > 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the > BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind > and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! > > The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek > shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather > turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central > PA. > > It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group > enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. > By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is > definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. > > Here are a few pics...http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty > > Peace, > BB -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: duomatic
Hi Reed, how did your S3X break? I was just looking at doing some silly things to mine, which got me wondering if there was a gear that would be too low for the internals. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On May 7, 2:59 pm, Reed Kennedy wrote: > After breaking my first Sturmey S3X three speed fix hub I was super excited > by the prospect of replacing it with a S2c duomatic kick shift hub. I went > out to Mission Bicycles here in San Francisco where they even had a > S2-hubed-bike (the one without the coaster brake) in stock. > > They were happy to let me try it out, but they warned it was not the most > user friendly of things. Hard to shift, and hard to know if you shifted, > they said. > > Pah! I said. I'm sure an old hand like myself will have no troubles! And off > I went. > > Indeed, by the time I got back (a couple miles later) I could shift reliably > 50-75% of the time. I was feeling quite accomplished. > > Then I thought: How much do I really want a heavy, inefficient, difficult to > operate, potentially fragile hub that only gives a 38% range? > > No Duomatics for me, thanks. I'll stick with either a true single speed or a > bigger range, like a Sturmey 5 or a Alfine 8. > > (Or, if you are looking for something silly, a S3X. My second one now has 30 > miles on it and is doing fine so far.) > > Best, > Reed > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 5:12 PM, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > Anyone planning to go new or n.o.s. 2 speed kickback hub on their new > > Simpleone? > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Doug, I love you're rationale. I'm going to try using it on my wife. Bill On May 8, 2011, at 11:10 AM, doug peterson wrote: > I don't keep records but Grant's 250 rides per year feels about > right. My Atlantis just celebrated it's 8th b'day. At an original > cost just over $2k (those were the days!), I'm getting close to a buck > a ride. > > dougP > > On May 8, 5:46 am, Earl Grey wrote: >> Good stuff as always. Too bad about the math error in the price per >> ride piece. I almost don't want to point it out since it seems to have >> gone unnoticed so far. The difference in price per ride, with Grant's >> conservative numbers, is only a little more than one order of >> magnitude, not two: Compared to the carbon bikes $10/ride, the >> expensive steel bike is >> >> 250 rides per year * 20 years = 5000 rides >> >> 5000 rides / $4000 = $0.80 per ride, NOT $0.09 >> >> On the other hand, I doubt that most carbon race bikes outside of the >> Southwest and California get ridden 50 weeks out of the year, which >> would further increase the cost per ride. >> >> My $2000 Sam Hillborne gets ridden 8-12 times a week (if you count >> each commute leg separately, plus one or two fun rides plus errands) >> so for the past year and a half that I have owned it, I am already >> down to about $2.67 a ride (10 rides x 50 weeks x 1.5 years), and >> dropping. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Gernot >> >> On May 7, 1:24 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> >> >> >>> Nice buncha articles, tho' Grant's predilections come out strong. >>> (Yay for fast, skinny tires! Yay for lower bars! Yay for race-type >>> bikes with fenders, racks, bags, dynolights -- esp if you can "match" >>> yer bags. Any YAY for good beer, home-made bread, lots of pasta and >>> sugar in my coffee!) >> >>> Anyway: I was particularly pleased with the interview with BS who >>> comes across as less of an asshol* than you just might presume from >>> his, admittedly very funny, blogs, and who also comes across as, >>> undeniable, intelligent and, for our dismally uncultured age, >>> literate. Kudos to R, RR and GP for this interview. >> >>> Patrick "my bars range from 2" below to 3" above saddle, my tires from >>> 22 mm to 65 mm" Moore >> >>> -- >>> Patrick Moore >>> Albuquerque, NM >>> For professional resumes, contact >>> Patrick Moore, ACRW >>> patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com >> >>> A billion stars go spinning through the night >>> Blazing high above your head; >>> But in you is the Presence that will be >>> When all the stars are dead. >>> (Rilke, Buddha in Glory)- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
I don't keep records but Grant's 250 rides per year feels about right. My Atlantis just celebrated it's 8th b'day. At an original cost just over $2k (those were the days!), I'm getting close to a buck a ride. dougP On May 8, 5:46 am, Earl Grey wrote: > Good stuff as always. Too bad about the math error in the price per > ride piece. I almost don't want to point it out since it seems to have > gone unnoticed so far. The difference in price per ride, with Grant's > conservative numbers, is only a little more than one order of > magnitude, not two: Compared to the carbon bikes $10/ride, the > expensive steel bike is > > 250 rides per year * 20 years = 5000 rides > > 5000 rides / $4000 = $0.80 per ride, NOT $0.09 > > On the other hand, I doubt that most carbon race bikes outside of the > Southwest and California get ridden 50 weeks out of the year, which > would further increase the cost per ride. > > My $2000 Sam Hillborne gets ridden 8-12 times a week (if you count > each commute leg separately, plus one or two fun rides plus errands) > so for the past year and a half that I have owned it, I am already > down to about $2.67 a ride (10 rides x 50 weeks x 1.5 years), and > dropping. > > Cheers, > > Gernot > > On May 7, 1:24 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > > > > > Nice buncha articles, tho' Grant's predilections come out strong. > > (Yay for fast, skinny tires! Yay for lower bars! Yay for race-type > > bikes with fenders, racks, bags, dynolights -- esp if you can "match" > > yer bags. Any YAY for good beer, home-made bread, lots of pasta and > > sugar in my coffee!) > > > Anyway: I was particularly pleased with the interview with BS who > > comes across as less of an asshol* than you just might presume from > > his, admittedly very funny, blogs, and who also comes across as, > > undeniable, intelligent and, for our dismally uncultured age, > > literate. Kudos to R, RR and GP for this interview. > > > Patrick "my bars range from 2" below to 3" above saddle, my tires from > > 22 mm to 65 mm" Moore > > > -- > > Patrick Moore > > Albuquerque, NM > > For professional resumes, contact > > Patrick Moore, ACRW > > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > > Blazing high above your head; > > But in you is the Presence that will be > > When all the stars are dead. > > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
The IRD triple is great, however it has been out of stock for quite some time. Good luck finding one. The current Tiagra triple seems to work fine. Other than that you are probably going to have to scour Ebay and Craigslist... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pannier Anchor for Nitto R-15
I really like the R-15 too. In fact, if anyone has a spare, let me know, I'll take it off your hands. Marty On May 7, 7:21 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Hi! > > I really like my Nitto R-15 rack. It's basically an R-14 with pannier > supports: > > http://db.tt/q5cZmYx > > But what it doesn't have is pannier anchors for the bottom. And though I know > that aren't absolutely essential, I do like using my TourSacks' bungee ball > lower attachments for stabilization. > > So now I have this: > > http://db.tt/Nqvjvt6 > > Those are just the Nitto band clamps that RBW sells. And though the whole > area looks a little "busy" there, the clamps thenselves don't look too bad. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Riv Rally East Pics!!!
Green, wet and firm dirt roads! Beautiful countryside. I see you had some portaging to do. Thanks for sharing the photos. > Today Riv Rally East kicked off with a stellar ride through the > beautiful Pine Creek Gorge in North Central Pennsylvania. Our group > numbered 8, with folks coming from as far away as Cleveland and > Washington DC. > > The weather started out perfect, and remained so for the first half of > the ride. But eventually the clouds rolled in and we got our first > 10-minute rain shower, followed by more gorgeous weather. Then the > BIG clouds rolled in, and we got a nice dousing of heavy rain, wind > and lightning... NOW WE HAD OURSELVES A RIDE!!! > > The rain only lasted 30 minutes or so, but we were compelled to seek > shelter after getting soaked for only 10 minutes. Then the weather > turned gorgeous once again... such is spring in the wilds of Central > PA. > > It was a beautiful ride through some beautiful country... Our group > enjoyed today's ride; tomorrow we'll choose a slightly shorter route. > By all accounts, Riv Rally East has been a success so far... There is > definite interest in a Riv Rally 2012. > > Here are a few pics... http://tinyurl.com/66re7ty > > Peace, > BB > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Speaking of that new RR 43 ....
Good stuff as always. Too bad about the math error in the price per ride piece. I almost don't want to point it out since it seems to have gone unnoticed so far. The difference in price per ride, with Grant's conservative numbers, is only a little more than one order of magnitude, not two: Compared to the carbon bikes $10/ride, the expensive steel bike is 250 rides per year * 20 years = 5000 rides 5000 rides / $4000 = $0.80 per ride, NOT $0.09 On the other hand, I doubt that most carbon race bikes outside of the Southwest and California get ridden 50 weeks out of the year, which would further increase the cost per ride. My $2000 Sam Hillborne gets ridden 8-12 times a week (if you count each commute leg separately, plus one or two fun rides plus errands) so for the past year and a half that I have owned it, I am already down to about $2.67 a ride (10 rides x 50 weeks x 1.5 years), and dropping. Cheers, Gernot On May 7, 1:24 am, PATRICK MOORE wrote: > Nice buncha articles, tho' Grant's predilections come out strong. > (Yay for fast, skinny tires! Yay for lower bars! Yay for race-type > bikes with fenders, racks, bags, dynolights -- esp if you can "match" > yer bags. Any YAY for good beer, home-made bread, lots of pasta and > sugar in my coffee!) > > Anyway: I was particularly pleased with the interview with BS who > comes across as less of an asshol* than you just might presume from > his, admittedly very funny, blogs, and who also comes across as, > undeniable, intelligent and, for our dismally uncultured age, > literate. Kudos to R, RR and GP for this interview. > > Patrick "my bars range from 2" below to 3" above saddle, my tires from > 22 mm to 65 mm" Moore > > -- > Patrick Moore > Albuquerque, NM > For professional resumes, contact > Patrick Moore, ACRW > patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com > > A billion stars go spinning through the night > Blazing high above your head; > But in you is the Presence that will be > When all the stars are dead. > (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: [BOB] Re: Decaleur substitute
No drill press, alas. Also, I have not yet tested if vibration will loosen the essential clamping action between bag and strut and strut and -- it's a VO stem bell mount. If it does, then James Black's setup may be indeed a better one; I just realized, too, that the horizontal hole in the cable housing stop on his model might work better than the bell mount. Perhaps more experimenting. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Brad wrote: > I really like the minimalism. > A thought, if you have access to a drill press, drill a small hole in > the wing nut > and add a loop of monofilament fishing line as a keeper, kind of like > the newer > gas caps on Honda Civics. ( I have personal experience with > replacing > the gas caps on older Honda Civics, as does my son x 3), > > On May 7, 6:46 pm, PATRICK MOORE wrote: >> The Lafamu front bag is for occasional use only, and I didn't want the >> additional hardware of a decaleur permanently mounted. I think this >> arrangement works well enough for the light and occasional loads I >> intend to carry; at any rate, it ought to work better than the VO >> rackaleur the new rack replaces. >> >> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/DecaleurSubstitutePhase1?authk... >> >> and following. >> >> I will shape the strut more nicely if it does in fact work as well as >> I hope it will. >> >> I'm rather proud of the idea, as minimalist as it is -- better (for my >> intended use, in the sense of smaller, cheaper, easier, lighter) than >> James Black's otherwise very elegant alternative >> (http://www.appleblock.com/decaleur.php) tho' of course mine requires >> a metal stiffener along the inward lip of the bag to which the strut >> bolts. >> >> -- >> Patrick Moore >> Albuquerque, NM >> For professional resumes, contact >> Patrick Moore, ACRW >> patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com >> >> A billion stars go spinning through the night >> Blazing high above your head; >> But in you is the Presence that will be >> When all the stars are dead. >> (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "internet-bob" group. > To post to this group, send email to internet-...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > internet-bob+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/internet-bob?hl=en. > > -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com A billion stars go spinning through the night Blazing high above your head; But in you is the Presence that will be When all the stars are dead. (Rilke, Buddha in Glory) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD?
The Shimano 105 9 speed (stock on the Ram) and Campy Chorus 10 speed (came on my Saluki) triples do great on a couple of my bikes. The newer Campy Mirage (bought from RBW in '09) also works just fine. Check Ebay, Loose Screws, if the regular sources don't have. > >From: BCDrums >To: RBW Owners Bunch >Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2011 1:45 PM >Subject: Re: [RBW] Front derailer for 48-38-24: Shimano, Campy, IRD? > >My bike has a Shimano XT front derailer from 1990. It has given good >service, but I'd like to change it out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
