[RBW] Re: I'm a Rivendell owner! (a saga, long)

[islaysteve]

Joe, Congratulations on your new Rivendell and thanks for the great and 
insightful write-up.  If the color is like the other bike posted, well, I 
want one.  Anyway, I'm pretty much a loner-type rider myself.  If my 
experience  is any indication, you probably won't attract too much attention 
on your Riv. In my area, there are lots of racing-oriented roadies, riding 
CF Treks, etc.  I think my Bleriot is pretty different-looking, but I 
haven't had any comments on it.  Have certainly seen some folks looking 
though.  I'm looking forward to pix of your new bike.  Happy riding, Steve

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[PATRICK MOORE]

You live on the eastside; I live on the westside*. We've got good roads.

Seriously, the roads I ride here in town, all between Tramway and
98th, are quite good. I have no problem with the 23s on my gofast.
What bad ones do you mean?

*The right or wrong side of the Rio Grande, for you non-albuquerquians.

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Ryan Watson  wrote:
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>
>> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
>> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
>
> I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the NM 
> roads I ride are in pretty rough shape.
> I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
>
> Cheers,
> Ryan
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[jimD]

Here in Northern Calif. the many secondary/tertiary roads that make for great 
bicycle routes are poorly maintained. Until the Tour of Calif. started using 
Tunitas Creek Road for one of the stages, the surface reminded me of a bombing 
range. Now many of the craters have been filled. I read the Sonoma County is 
considering letting some roads 'revert' to gravel. 

Funds to maintain roads here are diminishing and that seems unlikely to improve 
any time soon. 

I'm stocking up on fat/er tires. They work great for the 'roads of the future'.

-JimD


On Sep 29, 2011, at 6:19 PM, Ryan Watson wrote:

> 
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> 
>> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
>> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
> 
> I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the NM 
> roads I ride are in pretty rough shape. 
> I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
> 
> Cheers,
> Ryan
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[RBW] Re: I'm a Rivendell owner! (a saga, long)

[Minh]

Joe,

Don't worry about the attention, while everyone here loves the look of
Rivendells, the world outside has long since moved on.  I ride mine
every weekend on the busy trails here in DC and only once every few
weeks will i get any comments.  And there is plenty to comment about
on my bikes, from the wierd leather saddles (brooks, sella anatomica
or berthoud) to the bags (ns tweed, berthoud or carradice) and i only
get a nice bike comment from the folks in the know, i.e. they comment
on the bike by name.

Of course this assumes that your hypothesis is correct, that people
are just complimenting on the bike.  It could just be you that they
are complimenting :)

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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[Michael_S]

The beauty of the JB's is that if you spot some dirt road going somewhere 
new, you can  take a chance and see where it goes. To me, that's the best 
thing about riding fat road tires. Last night I was riding in a new area 
here in northern LA and ended up taking three different dirt roads, that all 
ended too quickly, and even some singletrack but it was still worth it just 
to be out on the bike exploring
 
~mike

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[RBW] Nigel Smyth Large Saddle Bag FS

[Adam]

Greetings Bunch,

I am raising funds for a new bike and have a Nigel Smyth large saddle
bag for sale.  It is the tan canvas with leather trim type, purchased
about 2 years ago.  It is huge, comparable to the saddlesack large in
capacity.  It is in good condition.  It is missing one grommet buckle
(replaceable) on one of the side pockets but is in otherwise great
condition.

I took a couple of pictures this morning but am having difficulty
posting them.  If you are very interested send me an email and I'll
forward them along.

I live in Berkeley and would prefer a local buyer but am willing to
ship for whatever additional cost it may be,

Price- $125 OBO

I also have a silver hupe that can be used as support for an
additional $5.

Cheers,
Adam

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[RBW] Re: I'm a Rivendell owner! (a saga, long)

[Joe Bernard]

You just *know* what's going to happen, right? I'll be in a good mood, all 
happy and smiley and pedaling away, wondering, "Where'd all my 'friends' go? 
Why aren't the kids shouting 'cool bike, dude'?" :-)

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[RBW] "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Allan in Portland]

Literally heard that last night in regards to my still-new-to-me AHH. Look, 
I know the tires are a little shabby, and the saddle doesn't fit the 
aesthetic (but it does fit me), but really, "that thing?"

:-) OK, as it was coming from a young 20-something on a crabon looking 
Scattante bike with skinny tires and not much else, I figured it was a 
compliment.

I should start a blog of unprompted comments Rivendells bring. So far, in 
less than 2 months I've had the usual "how old is it" on two different 
occasions. Some guy who looks like he doesn't ride bikes asked if I could go 
over 40 mph on it (was happy to show him the computer's max speed was 
currently recorded as 39.55). And not quite a comment, but the train rider 
in the seat next to me very conspicuously doing a web search on "A. Homer 
Hilsen" Not that I can blame any of them, (OK, I do hold it against the "how 
old is?" guys), it _is_ a great looking bike. In fact, as I often thing to 
myself, much better looking than it should considering it's built up almost 
entirely from second-hand accumulation.

And finally, something (IMO) so cliched (no offense intended) I thought I'd 
_never_ do, before, well..., getting my own put together, the flickr photo 
set .

Best regards & hats off to Grant P,
-Allan

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[RBW] Re: Nigel Smyth Large Saddle Bag FS

[Adam]

I've had a ton of interest already.  You people are on it.

I'll post here if it is still available by the end of the day,
otherwise most likely looks sold.

Cheers,
Adam



On Sep 30, 7:59 am, Adam  wrote:
> Greetings Bunch,
>
> I am raising funds for a new bike and have a Nigel Smyth large saddle
> bag for sale.  It is the tan canvas with leather trim type, purchased
> about 2 years ago.  It is huge, comparable to the saddlesack large in
> capacity.  It is in good condition.  It is missing one grommet buckle
> (replaceable) on one of the side pockets but is in otherwise great
> condition.
>
> I took a couple of pictures this morning but am having difficulty
> posting them.  If you are very interested send me an email and I'll
> forward them along.
>
> I live in Berkeley and would prefer a local buyer but am willing to
> ship for whatever additional cost it may be,
>
> Price- $125 OBO
>
> I also have a silver hupe that can be used as support for an
> additional $5.
>
> Cheers,
> Adam

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[William]

I just did a solo 200k yesterday in Marin (to keep my R12 going), and 
treated myself to the gravel path through Samual P Taylor Park instead of 
the uber narrow Sir Francis Drake Blvd through that section.  I was running 
650x38B Somas and it was a blast, even 110 miles into a long day.  One of my 
resolutions for 2012 is going to be to explore more gravel roads.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[Stephen S]

Um I am going to have to agree with Ryan here. 

Rio Rancho doesn't have the best roads. Socorro isn't great, I'd hate to 
ride in Santa Fe. Granted I hate being in Santa Fe...

I mean the roads are passable but not great. 

Stephen

On Friday, September 30, 2011 6:46:06 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> You live on the eastside; I live on the westside*. We've got good roads.
>
> Seriously, the roads I ride here in town, all between Tramway and
> 98th, are quite good. I have no problem with the 23s on my gofast.
> What bad ones do you mean?
>
> *The right or wrong side of the Rio Grande, for you non-albuquerquians.
>
> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Ryan Watson  wrote:
> >
> > On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
> >
> >> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
> >> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
> >
> > I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the NM 
> roads I ride are in pretty rough shape.
> > I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Ryan
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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[EastBayGuy]

last week while riding up to Mt Diablo on my usual half way up via roads and 
then down via trails on my Atlantis w/Medium Saddle Bag & 60 big apples, I 
had a Crabon gentleman ask at the Ranger station.

"You *Really* Rode that *Thing* up here?"

All I could say is "Yep and its time to take the trails back down" He looked 
at me like I was from another planet.

Dustin G

WC Ca

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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[William]

The most common ones I get are for my chubby 650B tires "You really like to 
roll fatties, don't you?"
or my handlebar bag "You got a picnic in that thing?"

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto noodles, Silver shifters, other stuff

[RobbeR49]

I still have the two stems (4 & 11), rack (5), R200 levers (6), and the 
brakes (9). Offers welcome.

Oh, and I lowered the price on the Kogswell frame to $300 shipped.

-Nick

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[RBW] looking for

[emart]

Looking to purchase a Rivendell 60-62cm.Preferably a complete bike but
frameset ok too. Please let me know if you have any leads

Thank you,
eddie

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[RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[Ryan J]

I just recently picked up an older italian bike that has 25s on it after 
riding the last two years on 32s and 38s, it takes some getting used to but 
the bike isn't totally uncomfortable.  I prefer the wider tires though, 
which is the bikes I will be getting in the future.  The 25s are just 
harsher and I had to physically avoid road conditions that I wouldn't when 
riding the Sam Hillborne.  The road conditions where I ride are fine for the 
most part, low traffic and relatively smooth, but every so often I take a 
road that is better served with fatter tires, especially some of the roads 
through the forest and game preserves.  I know that the future of my biking 
is better served with fatter tires...at least 32s.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[PATRICK MOORE]

Y'all have much higher standards than I; Rio Rancho's roads in
particular seem to me to be very good and the Albuquerque area in
general is better than say LA or, from what I remember, WDC. Which may
explain my evaluation

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Stephen S  wrote:
> Um I am going to have to agree with Ryan here.
>
> Rio Rancho doesn't have the best roads. Socorro isn't great, I'd hate to
> ride in Santa Fe. Granted I hate being in Santa Fe...
>
> I mean the roads are passable but not great.
>
> Stephen
>
> On Friday, September 30, 2011 6:46:06 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> You live on the eastside; I live on the westside*. We've got good roads.
>>
>> Seriously, the roads I ride here in town, all between Tramway and
>> 98th, are quite good. I have no problem with the 23s on my gofast.
>> What bad ones do you mean?
>>
>> *The right or wrong side of the Rio Grande, for you non-albuquerquians.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Ryan Watson  wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sep 29, 2011, at 16:46, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> >
>> >> We are fortunate here in NM; our roads are quite good with regular
>> >> upkeep and improvements like bike lanes.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what alternate universe Patrick rides in, but most of the
>> > NM roads I ride are in pretty rough shape.
>> > I ride those fat 650Bs for a reason!
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Ryan
>> >
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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[islaysteve]

Beautiful bike!  The know-nothings probably see the chrome fenders and think 
it's an English 3-speed.  Glad to see another member of the "Rivs with 
Brifters" group (although I dislike that term).  Cheers, Steve  

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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[cyclotour...@gmail.com]

Yep, just got the "nice old bike" thing last week riding around town.
It was a compliment coming from a rider on a steel Bianchi!

And it's true:  10 years old and still holding together!


On Sep 30, 8:58 am, Allan in Portland  wrote:
> Literally heard that last night in regards to my still-new-to-me AHH. Look,
> I know the tires are a little shabby, and the saddle doesn't fit the
> aesthetic (but it does fit me), but really, "that thing?"
>
> :-) OK, as it was coming from a young 20-something on a crabon looking
> Scattante bike with skinny tires and not much else, I figured it was a
> compliment.
>
> I should start a blog of unprompted comments Rivendells bring. So far, in
> less than 2 months I've had the usual "how old is it" on two different
> occasions. Some guy who looks like he doesn't ride bikes asked if I could go
> over 40 mph on it (was happy to show him the computer's max speed was
> currently recorded as 39.55). And not quite a comment, but the train rider
> in the seat next to me very conspicuously doing a web search on "A. Homer
> Hilsen" Not that I can blame any of them, (OK, I do hold it against the "how
> old is?" guys), it _is_ a great looking bike. In fact, as I often thing to
> myself, much better looking than it should considering it's built up almost
> entirely from second-hand accumulation.
>
> And finally, something (IMO) so cliched (no offense intended) I thought I'd
> _never_ do, before, well..., getting my own put together, the flickr photo
> set .
>
> Best regards & hats off to Grant P,
> -Allan

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[RBW] Re: looking for

[Joe Bernard]

This has been around quite a while. I'm amazed it hasn't sold yet.
 
http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/2622459985.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Tim McNamara]

On Sep 30, 2011, at 11:54 AM, William wrote:

> The most common ones I get are for my chubby 650B tires "You really like to 
> roll fatties, don't you?"

Being of the Cheech & Chong generation, my initial interpretation of that 
question would have nothing to do with bike tires...

> or my handlebar bag "You got a picnic in that thing?"

Hmm, that would be consistent with my interpretation of the first question.  ;-)

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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Allan in Portland]

Yeah, after he said it, it took me awhile to register what about it would 
make him think it might not be fast. He didn't get a good look at it, we 
were moving at 25-35 going down a hill then a long run out. He passed me in 
the run out, got caught by a light, I passed him later in on a smaller hill, 
he passed me on the run out of it, which was when he made his comment. It 
occurred to me the fenders had to be what he was keying off of.

So no, not an English 3 speed, it's an American 18. :-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[William]

The Cheech and Chong connection was precisely my intention.  There's a 
t-shirt or a bumpersticker there somewhere:

"Randonneurs have more fun because they roll fatties"

"I ride a Rivendell because I like to roll fatties"

"Roll a fatty (or two) on a Rivendell"


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RE: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Allingham II, Thomas J]

Too long.

Stick with "Riv Riders Roll Fatties".  Short. Sweet.


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Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

The Cheech and Chong connection was precisely my intention.  There's a t-shirt 
or a bumpersticker there somewhere:

"Randonneurs have more fun because they roll fatties"

"I ride a Rivendell because I like to roll fatties"

"Roll a fatty (or two) on a Rivendell"



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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Rick]

Around town, I frequently get the "how old is that bike?" thing.
Usually at stop lights.

If I'm feeling chatty, I use it as an opening to unapologetically
discuss the merits of a Riv-based approach to a cycling-centric
lifestyle.

About three out of ten seem to appreciate it, six do a spandex-clad "o-
kay" as they retreat on their carbon stallions, and the tenth gets
hostile.

When not feeling chatty, I say:  "'09."

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Rex Kerr]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Rick  wrote:

> Around town, I frequently get the "how old is that bike?" thing.
> Usually at stop lights.


My AHH has only been on the road about 2.5 months, but I've only heard the
old comment once, and it went something like:

"Wow, that's really old-school"

I think he was going to stop with old, then realized that it was practically
brand new. :-)

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[RBW] RIP Yehuda

[Leslie]

I'm sure I'm not the only one saddened by the ending of the Kickstand 
Cyclery, am I?



-L

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Re: [RBW] RIP Yehuda

[Seth Vidal]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Leslie  wrote:
> I'm sure I'm not the only one saddened by the ending of the Kickstand
> Cyclery, am I?
>

I am sad to see the comic go.

I'm not sad to see the comments section of the comic go - some very
odd items there.

I am also curious what happened that made rick decide to stop it.

-sv

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Re: [RBW] RIP Yehuda

[Rex Kerr]

Oh... that's too bad.  I'd been following it, but hadn't checked in a few
days since the last few times I went back it had the other be back
message...

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Leslie  wrote:

> I'm sure I'm not the only one saddened by the ending of the Kickstand
> Cyclery, am I?
>
>
>
> -L
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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[soapscum]

I get this kind of thing once in a while on my Hillborne, but the most
classic comment was:

"I had one of those when I was a kid."

Uh... ok.

On Sep 30, 1:50 pm, Rex Kerr  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Rick  wrote:
> > Around town, I frequently get the "how old is that bike?" thing.
> > Usually at stop lights.
>
> My AHH has only been on the road about 2.5 months, but I've only heard the
> old comment once, and it went something like:
>
> "Wow, that's really old-school"
>
> I think he was going to stop with old, then realized that it was practically
> brand new. :-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Robert F. Harrison]

Mostly I get very nice comments about my Quickbeam. There was one fellow I
met while I headed out on a camping trip who said to his friends derisively,
"oh, that's just an expensive copy of an old frame." Then he walked away not
giving it a second glance. Everyone else in his group thought it was a great
bike and asked a lot of questions.

:-)

Aloha,

Bob


On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Rex Kerr  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 1:31 PM, Rick  wrote:
>
>> Around town, I frequently get the "how old is that bike?" thing.
>> Usually at stop lights.
>
>
> My AHH has only been on the road about 2.5 months, but I've only heard the
> old comment once, and it went something like:
>
> "Wow, that's really old-school"
>
> I think he was going to stop with old, then realized that it was
> practically brand new. :-)
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Re: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Rex Kerr]

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Robert F. Harrison wrote:

> There was one fellow I met while I headed out on a camping trip who said to
> his friends derisively, "oh, that's just an expensive copy of an old frame."
> Then he walked away not giving it a second glance.
>
>
I wonder if it's the same guy who posted this (censored) comment in response
to my flickr photo:

Hey I saw a bike like that on craigslist. It was a little lacking in [*slur*]
and was missing a zero on the end of the price, but overall maybe a nice
adjunct if you're looking to buy another worthless piece of [*profane*]?
You'll still get to go through that same process of explaining that you
really wanted to get a CrMo frame (not because you're a legit, fit rider
who's riding a heavy frame for monetary or safety reasons, mind you...just
because $2000 seemed reasonable for not having to buy an "authentic" looking
bike second hand).

I just got linked to this page from the Rivendell site because I was
horrified that someone (locally! In the 925!) makes money from selling bikes
that would raise eyebrows if someone was trying to sell it second-hand for
over $300. I'm never given to vandalism, but I would definitely wait by your
bike if I ever saw it until I could castigate you for willfully wasting
money on nothing. It's not a classic. It's not a whit more functional or
safe than the sub-$300 ex-touring steel bikes on Craigslist. It's not even
the good kind of ostentatious, like a Ferrari that can get you laid. It's
just aggressively meaningless. If I found that you weren't rich enough to go
to the atm, withdraw 2K, and light it on fire, I think I would call you
pretentious. If you were, but weren't so darkly nihilistic so as to taunt
the good folk of your community collecting to save the stick figures in
Africa by repeatedly incinerating potential aid dollars in front of them,
I'd call you an idiot.

What if that's just you though? Respekt, you're a cold mofo and we should go
ride and do some recreational arson at this orphanage I know.


Wow... somebody's got issues.  I wonder if his car costs more than a few
thousand... you know, you can buy an old 50 MPG Geo for something like
$1000...  I responded with something like "Thanks for the compliments, glad
you liked my bike."  :-)

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[RBW] Wanted: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost w/mega setback

[Mark B]

I've started training for my first 250km ride, and am convinced I need
one of these to get my Brooks Team Pro back far enough. Scratches ok,
just needs to be structurally sound. I need a 27.2, but am pretty sure
they all are. Any length.

I'm in Australia, but am happy to pay post-age and via PayPal.

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[RBW] Re: Wanted: Nitto S84 Lugged Seatpost w/mega setback

[Joe Bernard]

There's one on USA Ebay.

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[RBW] Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Rex Kerr]

Planning to stop by RivHQ tomorrow... will be dropped off by car, but was
planning to ride to Berkeley afterwards.

Looking at Google maps, I get two possible routes.  The problem is, both say
that I should ride on HWY 24, and the street view there doesn't look very
pleasant (it's freeway!).  Is there a better route that avoids the highway
and isn't much longer than 20 miles [time constraints]?

I remember that Grant said that he was going to publish a route, but I don't
remember ever seeing that.

Thanks!
-Rex

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[RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[William]

The way I go is alongside 24 until you hit the bike path that is right 
ALONGSIDE 24 but it is a bike path.  That gets you up to Orinda, where I 
usually cut over (south, right) on Camino Pablo to Wildcat, over Inspiration 
Point and drop into North Berkeley on Spruce.  

On Google Maps if you push the bike button, it will keep you off the 
freeway.  

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[RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[William]

Ha!  I hit the bike button and it does want you to ride on the side of Hwy 
24 from Orinda all the way up to Fish Ranch.  That's nuts!  Although I admit 
I've seen a Bombadil riding up that way.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Rex Kerr]

OK, so I wasn't crazy.  I thought that perhaps you'd been given a better
route.  I'll look for the bike path...  not being a local (neither to WC nor
Berkeley) I must confess ignorance of these places that you call Orinda,
Camino Pablo, Wildcat, Inspriation Point, etc...  I'll look at the map some
more, but I might be back asking for clarification!

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 3:42 PM, William  wrote:

> Ha!  I hit the bike button and it does want you to ride on the side of Hwy
> 24 from Orinda all the way up to Fish Ranch.  That's nuts!  Although I admit
> I've seen a Bombadil riding up that way.
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Re: [RBW] RIP Yehuda

[William Pustow]

   Ah, let's see - lack of readership? I know he wrote about that which we all 
love but he was not very (just a little) funny, insightful, creative, etc. 
Bill
Louisville, Ky


On Sep 30, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Leslie  wrote:
>> I'm sure I'm not the only one saddened by the ending of the Kickstand
>> Cyclery, am I?
>> 
> 
> I am sad to see the comic go.
> 
> I'm not sad to see the comments section of the comic go - some very
> odd items there.
> 
> I am also curious what happened that made rick decide to stop it.
> 
> -sv
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Rex Kerr]

Thanks for the input... using your additional info, I came up with the
instructions below.  Do these instructions look reasonable?
 Interestingly they also have a 3D view button which gives you a satellite
fly through with terrain, so I can see how hilly it'll be!

Rivendell Bicycle Works 2040 North Main St # 19 Walnut Creek, CA
94596
1.Head south on Crokaerst St/Crokaerts St toward Central Rd390 ft2.Turn left
onto Central Rd259 ft3.Turn right onto N Broadway0.5 mi4.Turn left onto
Lincoln Ave0.2 mi5.Turn right onto Iron Horse Regional Trail0.5 mi6.Slight
left to stay on Iron Horse Regional Trail125 ft7.Turn right onto Newell Ave
1.0 mi8.Turn left onto Olympic Blvd1.2 mi9.Slight right to stay on Olympic
Blvd0.4 mi10.Continue onto Lafayette/Moraga Regional Trail0.8 mi11.Turn
right onto Foye Dr108 ft12.Turn left onto Moraga Blvd0.3 mi13.Turn right
toward Golden Gate Way446 ft14.Turn left onto Golden Gate Way420 ft15.Slight
left onto Plaza Dr220 ft16.Turn right onto Moraga Rd164 ft17.Turn left onto
Mt Diablo Blvd1.1 mi18.Slight right to stay on Mt Diablo Blvd0.2 mi19.Slight
right to stay on Mt Diablo Blvd0.7 mi20.Turn left onto Acalanes Rd0.3 mi21.Turn
right onto Hidden Valley Rd0.9 mi22.Slight right to stay on Hidden Valley Rd
0.2 mi23.Turn left onto Tahos Rd20 ft24.Turn right onto St Stephens Trail
1.0 mi25.Turn right onto Vashell Way174 ft26.Slight left onto Bryant Way
285 ft27.Bryant Way turns slightly left and becomes Moraga Way315 ft28.Turn
right onto Brookwood Rd404 ft29.Turn right onto Camino Pablo2.3 mi30.Turn
left onto Wildcat Canyon Rd3.9 mi31.Turn left toward Shasta Rd59 ft32.Turn
right onto Shasta Rd0.2 mi33.Turn right to stay on Shasta Rd0.2 mi34.Turn
left to stay on Shasta Rd171 ft35.Turn right to stay on Shasta Rd312 ft36.Turn
left to stay on Shasta Rd0.2 mi37.Turn left to stay on Shasta Rd0.1 mi38.Turn
right to stay on Shasta Rd299 ft39.Turn left onto Northgate Ave/Shasta Rd
230 ft40.Turn right onto Shasta Rd387 ft41.Turn right onto Cragmont Ave
0.3 mi42.Turn left onto Bret Harte Rd292 ft43.Turn right onto Keith Ave
0.4 mi44.Sharp left onto Spruce St0.9 mi45.Turn right onto Virginia St0.1 mi
46.Turn left onto Walnut St0.2 mi47.Turn right onto Hearst Ave0.7 mi48.Turn
left onto California St0.1 mi49.Turn right onto University Ave0.1 mi

Not sure if this link will work:

http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Rivendell+Bicycle+Works,+Walnut+Creek,+CA&daddr=37.900071,-122.213882+to:University+Ave&hl=en&ll=37.870294,-122.282265&spn=0.006852,0.009645&sll=37.875023,-122.265687&sspn=0.027405,0.038581&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFSdPQgIdBiq3-ClPC7L7iHyFgDG93BT2kdMoqw%3BFZDbQQIdaCC2-A&vpsrc=6&dirflg=b&mra=dme&mrsp=2&sz=15&via=1&t=f&z=17&ecpose=37.87486283,-122.27279452,335.63,-121.427,72.751,0

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Aaron Thomas]

I can't provide you a blow-by-blow at the moment, but I'd go from WC through 
Lafayette, Moraga, Canyon, up Pinehurst to Skyline, and from Skyline towards 
Berkeley. It's more scenic than going along the 24. Lots of trees. 

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[RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[rw1911]

Wow.  A lot of anger in the 925.


On Sep 30, 5:28 pm, Rex Kerr  wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Robert F. Harrison 
> wrote:
>
> > There was one fellow I met while I headed out on a camping trip who said to
> > his friends derisively, "oh, that's just an expensive copy of an old frame."
> > Then he walked away not giving it a second glance.
>
> I wonder if it's the same guy who posted this (censored) comment in response
> to my flickr photo:
>
> Hey I saw a bike like that on craigslist. It was a little lacking in [*slur*]
> and was missing a zero on the end of the price, but overall maybe a nice
> adjunct if you're looking to buy another worthless piece of [*profane*]?
> You'll still get to go through that same process of explaining that you
> really wanted to get a CrMo frame (not because you're a legit, fit rider
> who's riding a heavy frame for monetary or safety reasons, mind you...just
> because $2000 seemed reasonable for not having to buy an "authentic" looking
> bike second hand).
>
> I just got linked to this page from the Rivendell site because I was
> horrified that someone (locally! In the 925!) makes money from selling bikes
> that would raise eyebrows if someone was trying to sell it second-hand for
> over $300. I'm never given to vandalism, but I would definitely wait by your
> bike if I ever saw it until I could castigate you for willfully wasting
> money on nothing. It's not a classic. It's not a whit more functional or
> safe than the sub-$300 ex-touring steel bikes on Craigslist. It's not even
> the good kind of ostentatious, like a Ferrari that can get you laid. It's
> just aggressively meaningless. If I found that you weren't rich enough to go
> to the atm, withdraw 2K, and light it on fire, I think I would call you
> pretentious. If you were, but weren't so darkly nihilistic so as to taunt
> the good folk of your community collecting to save the stick figures in
> Africa by repeatedly incinerating potential aid dollars in front of them,
> I'd call you an idiot.
>
> What if that's just you though? Respekt, you're a cold mofo and we should go
> ride and do some recreational arson at this orphanage I know.
>
> Wow... somebody's got issues.  I wonder if his car costs more than a few
> thousand... you know, you can buy an old 50 MPG Geo for something like
> $1000...  I responded with something like "Thanks for the compliments, glad
> you liked my bike."  :-)

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[RBW] FS: VO Grand Cru setback seatpost

[cyclotourist]

http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6199379570/in/photostream/

Cosmetically good above the seatpost clamp height, scuffed below that.

$25 shipped to your door.

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[RBW] Blug, dinosaurs

[Joe Bernard]

Check out today's (Sep. 30) blug, scroll down to the dinosaurs part. I read 
it four times before I got the gist of it. It'll hurt your brain.
 
Joe Bernard
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[RBW] New Website Mixup

[Peter M]

Looking at the Hillborne page on the new website and am I wrong or
shouldnt it read that single tube one are made by wateford and the
doubles are made it Taiwan or has there been a switcheroo at Riv? The
pictures indicate that the smaller ones are canti syle and the doubles
are side pull but again the site says the opposite. Any insights?

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Re: [RBW] FS: VO Grand Cru setback seatpost

[PATRICK MOORE]

27.2? If so, I'll take it. Thanks.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 6:19 PM, cyclotourist  wrote:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6199379570/in/photostream/
>
> Cosmetically good above the seatpost clamp height, scuffed below that.
>
> $25 shipped to your door.
>
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>
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Re: [RBW] RIP Yehuda

[Tim McNamara]

On Sep 30, 2011, at 3:52 PM, Leslie wrote:

> I'm sure I'm not the only one saddened by the ending of the Kickstand 
> Cyclery, am I?

Nope, reading the strip over breakfast very morning has been one of the 
delights of the past year or two.  First three things I checked every morning 
was Yehuda, Calvin and Hobbes and Cul de Sac.

I'm sad to see it go, have some vague hope it might be back some time, and have 
*no idea* of the amount of time something like that must eat up and take away 
from family, friends, etc.  It has to be considerable even when not running 
into the inevitable writer's block and such.

My thanks to Rick for his hard work and labor of love!  I hope he enjoyed it as 
much as I and many others did.  The strip deserves a little mention in the 
"Lauterbrunnen Leaflet" some time.

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Re: [RBW] Re: "Wow you go really fast on that thing"

[Robert F. Harrison]

Yes, wow is about all I can say. At the fellow I ran into just dismissed the
whole thing and left the rest of us alone. I wonder if he's ever dropped by
Riv given it's in the 925.

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:28 AM, Rex Kerr  wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Robert F. Harrison 
> wrote:
>
>> There was one fellow I met while I headed out on a camping trip who said
>> to his friends derisively, "oh, that's just an expensive copy of an old
>> frame." Then he walked away not giving it a second glance.
>>
>>
> I wonder if it's the same guy who posted this (censored) comment in
> response to my flickr photo:
>
> Hey I saw a bike like that on craigslist. It was a little lacking in [*
> slur*] and was missing a zero on the end of the price, but overall maybe a
> nice adjunct if you're looking to buy another worthless piece of [*profane
> *]? You'll still get to go through that same process of explaining that
> you really wanted to get a CrMo frame (not because you're a legit, fit rider
> who's riding a heavy frame for monetary or safety reasons, mind you...just
> because $2000 seemed reasonable for not having to buy an "authentic" looking
> bike second hand).
>
> I just got linked to this page from the Rivendell site because I was
> horrified that someone (locally! In the 925!) makes money from selling bikes
> that would raise eyebrows if someone was trying to sell it second-hand for
> over $300. I'm never given to vandalism, but I would definitely wait by your
> bike if I ever saw it until I could castigate you for willfully wasting
> money on nothing. It's not a classic. It's not a whit more functional or
> safe than the sub-$300 ex-touring steel bikes on Craigslist. It's not even
> the good kind of ostentatious, like a Ferrari that can get you laid. It's
> just aggressively meaningless. If I found that you weren't rich enough to go
> to the atm, withdraw 2K, and light it on fire, I think I would call you
> pretentious. If you were, but weren't so darkly nihilistic so as to taunt
> the good folk of your community collecting to save the stick figures in
> Africa by repeatedly incinerating potential aid dollars in front of them,
> I'd call you an idiot.
>
> What if that's just you though? Respekt, you're a cold mofo and we should
> go ride and do some recreational arson at this orphanage I know.
>
>
> Wow... somebody's got issues.  I wonder if his car costs more than a few
> thousand... you know, you can buy an old 50 MPG Geo for something like
> $1000...  I responded with something like "Thanks for the compliments, glad
> you liked my bike."  :-)
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jack Browns - Tires For The Future?

[Stephen S]

No worries. It's been a while since I lived there and they might be better 
now. Maybe I just remember the horrible driving and the roads on I-25 south 
of Albuquerque... 

I do know I have never gotten as many goat heads as when I road Chase the 
Balloons a few years ago down near the bosque. =) 

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[RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Jim M.]

I tried to post these as tiny URL's but they didn't go through. Here
are the Google maps links for 3 routes from RBW to Berkeley, if anyone
else needs them.

Through Orinda to Wildcat Canyon route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=orinda,+CA+to:Tilden+Regional+Park,+Berkeley,+CA+to:shattuck+%26+university,+berkeley,+ca&hl=en&sll=37.87255,-122.192688&sspn=0.103933,0.222988&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFZz1QQIdl6-3-Cn_I8hdvXyFgDGJZxICN8DaiQ%3BFfFwQgIdg2K2-CE71t63d4w_ew%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=ls&t=m&lci=bike&z=13


Through Moraga and Canyon, up to Skyline route:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=canyon,+CA+to:37.8426464,-122.197202+to:37.8514593,-122.2243426+to:shattuck+%26+university,+berkeley,+ca&hl=en&sll=37.851611,-122.214661&sspn=0.025991,0.055747&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFco9QQIdDOa3-Ckn-6CfcYiPgDGIZXxGrGki1A%3BFdZuQQIdLmu3-CntOVfnX32FgDGs1L6iB6RDkQ%3BFUORQQIdKgG3-Ckt8f4MoX2FgDG_ghLSykn-Dg%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=15&via=2,3&t=m&lci=bike&z=15

This one includes Pig Farm Hill and the 3 Bears climb:
http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=reliez+valley+rd+%26+alhambra+valley+rd+martinez+ca+to:bear+creek+rd+and+san+pablo+dam+rd+to:37.90176,-122.24042+to:shattuck+%26+university+berkeley&hl=en&sll=37.877699,-122.213116&sspn=0.103926,0.222988&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFbdTQwIdf4C4-Cmb5Qd_V2SFgDHOAkn0SXhAnQ%3BFfdMQgIdQje3-CnhXo1DjnyFgDG0LdpGpEzwaQ%3BFcBVQgIdXMK2-Cl_wbN1dXyFgDEfwQPzwGcFNg%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=13&via=3&t=m&lci=bike&z=14

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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Rex Kerr]

Thanks for the routes!

One question about the first one (Orinda to Wildcat Canyon)

Is Meadows Canyon Trail paved?  If not, and if I decide to take the paved
route to get back quicker (depends how much time I spend at RBW!) how bad is
the ride down Wildcat Canyon Road?  Are the drivers crazy [crazier than
normal] on the blind curves in that area?

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Jim M.  wrote:

> I tried to post these as tiny URL's but they didn't go through. Here
> are the Google maps links for 3 routes from RBW to Berkeley, if anyone
> else needs them.
>
> Through Orinda to Wildcat Canyon route:
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=orinda,+CA+to:Tilden+Regional+Park,+Berkeley,+CA+to:shattuck+%26+university,+berkeley,+ca&hl=en&sll=37.87255,-122.192688&sspn=0.103933,0.222988&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFZz1QQIdl6-3-Cn_I8hdvXyFgDGJZxICN8DaiQ%3BFfFwQgIdg2K2-CE71t63d4w_ew%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=ls&t=m&lci=bike&z=13
>
>
> Through Moraga and Canyon, up to Skyline route:
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=canyon,+CA+to:37.8426464,-122.197202+to:37.8514593,-122.2243426+to:shattuck+%26+university,+berkeley,+ca&hl=en&sll=37.851611,-122.214661&sspn=0.025991,0.055747&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFco9QQIdDOa3-Ckn-6CfcYiPgDGIZXxGrGki1A%3BFdZuQQIdLmu3-CntOVfnX32FgDGs1L6iB6RDkQ%3BFUORQQIdKgG3-Ckt8f4MoX2FgDG_ghLSykn-Dg%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=15&via=2,3&t=m&lci=bike&z=15
>
> This one includes Pig Farm Hill and the 3 Bears climb:
>
> http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=2040+North+Main+St+%23+19,+Walnut+Creek,+CA+94596+(Rivendell+Bicycle+Works)&daddr=reliez+valley+rd+%26+alhambra+valley+rd+martinez+ca+to:bear+creek+rd+and+san+pablo+dam+rd+to:37.90176,-122.24042+to:shattuck+%26+university+berkeley&hl=en&sll=37.877699,-122.213116&sspn=0.103926,0.222988&geocode=FR9vQgIdxnS5-CEMe1SC7Vfptg%3BFbdTQwIdf4C4-Cmb5Qd_V2SFgDHOAkn0SXhAnQ%3BFfdMQgIdQje3-CnhXo1DjnyFgDG0LdpGpEzwaQ%3BFcBVQgIdXMK2-Cl_wbN1dXyFgDEfwQPzwGcFNg%3BFYviQQIdVFe2-CmrMPFdnn6FgDGOHqTR0sb_TQ&vpsrc=0&dirflg=b&mra=dpe&mrsp=3&sz=13&via=3&t=m&lci=bike&z=14
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Re: [RBW] Re: Riding from Riv HQ to Berkeley

[Joe Bernard]

I'll answer the second part. This is a very heavily biked area, and most 
drivers are aware of it. You won't find a lot of bike hatin' cowboys near 
Berkeley. 

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[RBW] Re: Blug, dinosaurs

[Manuel Acosta]

I like the new blug. Makes it easier to find old post and makes it
much pleasurable to read.
Also I got to take a picture of the pre-smoked trout before it was
cooked.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mannyacosta/5932658906/in/set-72157627058327753
Apparently it was cooked for Grant's birthday.
Anyone familiar with the recipe?

On Sep 30, 5:33 pm, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> Check out today's (Sep. 30) blug, scroll down to the dinosaurs part. I read
> it four times before I got the gist of it. It'll hurt your brain.
>
> Joe Bernard
> Fairfield, CA.

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