[RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.
I'm really glad to see this discussion about the Shimano RD's. Some years ago I bought a used Atlantis from Tom Hill at Hyawatha. When I started riding the bike I was disconcerted by the fact that the deraileurs worked the opposite from what I was used to. Pushing the levers away resulted in thing springing to a bigger gear. I thought of changing the mechanism to solve the problem but I'm lazy, the thing worked fine, so I just adapted. I probably ride the Atlantis more, day in day out, than any of my other bikes. So, what does one call the reverse action deraileur? Do I understand from the thread that Shimano has dropped this device from the line-up or is it the opposite? This is probably the kind of thing that I should know w/o asking but most of my bikes are vintage things with relatively crude shifting mechanisms. In my defense, however, I do know a lot about Cambio Corsa shifters. GeorgeS On Feb 3, 3:46 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: A year or more ago, my rambunctious golden retrievers knocked over the Atlantis, which was politely drying in the afternoon sun after a nice bath. The derailer hanger bent, and it totaled my original derailer, which was the now-discontinued rapid rise version. I admonished the dogs, and substituted with shimano's current high normal equivalent, consoling myself with the thought that I'd adjust to pulling my silver shifters up to go to a lower gear, just as I had quickly gotten used to pushing down for same when that reverse action came around. I never did. Maybe the little fellow needed some fine tuning, but my real objection was, I suspect, somewhat more conceptual: lifting that shifter up to ascend to a higher gear had come to make more sense somehow. (That, and I still have one of the rapid rise fellows on the bleriot, so I wasn't able to completely block out the past experience.) So, through the magik of the intertubes, I procured and mounted the rapid rise model back on the Atlantis. The difference is remarkable for me, and I am most happy with my reversion to the reverse-action. I suppose I should get some more before the ether swallows all examples. That having been said, I have a question on another, tangentially- related subject: when at rest, Atlantis sits on a two-legged kickstand, and with a decent load pops a static wheelie. On a sloping surface, those handlebars swing round with a vengeance, and if the rear load's uneven, the resulting weight shift threatens to topple all. So -- what do you call/where can I get one of those rotation-limiting devices that prevent the full swing-around on the bars? I've seen them in photos posted by a couple of you touring types, I believe. And maybe I should lop several centimeters off the kickstand legs to decrease the wheelie effect? Rick. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.
On Sat, 2012-02-04 at 03:45 -0800, GeorgeS wrote: I'm really glad to see this discussion about the Shimano RD's. Some years ago I bought a used Atlantis from Tom Hill at Hyawatha. When I started riding the bike I was disconcerted by the fact that the deraileurs worked the opposite from what I was used to. Pushing the levers away resulted in thing springing to a bigger gear. I thought of changing the mechanism to solve the problem but I'm lazy, the thing worked fine, so I just adapted. Bad decision. You have adapted, and you are now screwed. I probably ride the Atlantis more, day in day out, than any of my other bikes. So, what does one call the reverse action deraileur? Ass backwards. Do I understand from the thread that Shimano has dropped this device from the line-up Yes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.
It's Bass Ackwards And he's been assimilated, I guess he bought into Resistance is futile. On Sat, Feb 4, 2012 at 6:54 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: Bad decision. You have adapted, and you are now screwed. I probably ride the Atlantis more, day in day out, than any of my other bikes. So, what does one call the reverse action deraileur? Ass backwards. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?
+1 Steve. I think that BQ's article on optimum wheel and tire sizes may have concluded that the Cypres (and the folding 35mm Kojak too, BTW) was about the right weight for acceptable handling on 700c wheels, but everything Jan has written on the subject would seem to indicate the wider, lower pressure tire is better for almost every situation. Pete in CT -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/PuGMsm3sXeAJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New BO Moustache bar
OKay, that explains it. And it matches, as the build kits now have m'bars, too. - Andrew, Berkeley On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's just the normal moustache bar (same description and designation, RM-016), but categorized under Build Only Inventory. Not sure what that means. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/c0PH8wDs1UoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.
Patrick writes: An incidental benefit was that I could leave the stand down when wheeling the bike through the grocery store and park it whenever I needed to investigate an item more closely instead of having to find something to lean the bike against and likely as not knocking askew some display. You roll the bike around the store with you while you shop? You do indeed march to a different drummer. How's that work with the trike? Bill -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Big bikes and limits
+1 on the beautiful bike deal. Here's my story about 'lively'. The design of my Riv custom is based on a Riv Romulus. I don't know the detail tube wall, geometry differences in the two designs. I just asked Grant for a bike like my the Romulus and we talked about where and how I ride. I was expecting a fancier version of the Romulus. What the custom ended up being was more than that The custom is 'livelier' than the Romulus was. Further proof for me that Grant is one of 'the pros from Dover' when it comes to designing great riding bikes. I was real fond of the Romulus, the custom is perfection for me. -JimD That's my story and I'm sticking to it. On Feb 3, 2012, at 3:31 PM, Michael Hechmer wrote: Esteban, you forgot to mention how damn good looking the bike was! I'm sure there are almost as many opinions about the lively issue as there are tire sizes. Two variables trump everything else. The right set of tires wheels can make a bike feel much more lively and give a rider that little bit extra of acceleration to stay with a faster group. But I'm also convinced that Jan Heine is right about flexibility and planing. If a bike is over built and too rigid it can feel sluggish on jumps but still cruise very nicely. I certainly haven't ridden every bike honored on this list but am convinced that as you move toward a strong touring or trail efficient build you necessarily give up some of the liveliness that is the hallmark of a great road bike. My 1988 Marinoni stage racing frame (columbus standard gauge tubing with world championship heritage) has it and so does my Rambouillet. My Ebisu All Purpose a notch less but the SOMA Dble Cross, built stiffer with OS tubing is great for touring and commuting, does not hammer anywhere near as well as the Ram. Of course my motor now has a lot of years and miles on it so words like quick, jump, and hammer get more problematic with every passing season. blessings, michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BahkKLEC_swJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: regarding the defunct rapid rise derailers and those anti-handlebar-flop doohickeys.
It turned out to be (naturally) one of those a miss is as good as a mile things. One tiny mump-with-groove thing missing where it needs to be. So...full of naive boyish hope and expectation, I asked MicroShift--in person, there at MSHQ, sitting down at a table, whether they could make 'em that way for us, and we'd buy 400. He said something like, Nice try, but that would take ten thousand dollars in tooling, lots of development time, and we could make your year's supply in one productive afternoon. I used to hear that a lot in the '90s, but our seeming legitimacy and webby presence and rep have since gotten us stuff we never could have gotten back then (tires, rims, pedals..). Still to small for special derailers, though. Too bad Shimano quit 'em. I'm half-and-halfing now (on my bikes), and it's not a mass of confusion. Last week I think I mis-shifted only about thirty times, but fortunately, spent a total of about twenty- five seconds correcting. On Feb 3, 4:58 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to recall that GCo were looking at removing and putting the rear-der spring back on, to convert normals to reverse... Anything come of that?? -L -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New BO Moustache bar
I would imagine build only means we have these for build kits, do not swipe them to sell individually, or we'll have to special-order it, which will delay the customer's build, and we'll have to eat the savings on the build kits. Just a guess, though. Philip Philip Williamson www.biketinker.com On Feb 4, 7:32 am, Andrew ashtab...@gmail.com wrote: OKay, that explains it. And it matches, as the build kits now have m'bars, too. - Andrew, Berkeley On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 7:25 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's just the normal moustache bar (same description and designation, RM-016), but categorized under Build Only Inventory. Not sure what that means. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/c0PH8wDs1UoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: new bars spy shot-- Alba-moose?
Hi Marc, Jeremy's correct. The non-moosey version will be handlebar only, like an Albatross, Mustache, or Noodle. So, if you've got a bike with, say, an Albatross bar and are considering replacing it with the non-moosey NewBar(or whatever it'll end up being called), the stem you've got on the bike now should work just fine. I'm seriously considering replacing the Bullmoose bar on my Hunqapillar with the moosey version of the NewBar. It looks great, I love the triangulation the extensions form, and it'll give me a little bit more of an upright ride that I couldn't get with the Bullmoose bar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/_Vz-ZzddW_0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider
Hi Jim, Welcome to the group, and congrats on your AHH! It's a beautiful bike, and you've got some beautiful countryside, there. Kudos to Rivendell for making their amazing bikes available for such a wide range of people sizes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/aZX0UrVjIkkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Jack Taylor photos - build assist (and many parts) from RBW
Michael Lawrence helped me get this frame in about '99. After email correspondence, we spoke on the phone; he was very pleasant to deal with. These were the last frames done by Jack and Norman, and were apparently hanging in Michael's attic or barn or ?. He said, over the phone, that the blue bike showed Norman's wavery hand in the lug lining, so that's the one I chose. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/6818454705/in/set-72157629173650165/ I was just getting back into cycling again, after a 15 year hiatus. Thanks to Rivendell, I was excited again about bikes, and GP helped me choose some new parts (lugged stem, brooks saddle, Rolly-Polly's) to go with a mix of new and NOS parts. For example, the Campagnolo Hi-Lo hubset found a mate in a set of new Campagnolo Montreal rims. Hope you like the pics from my dinky Olympus cycling camera. Anyway, it's a great bike, a lovely rider, with plenty of memories. Getting it ready for tomorrow's Super Bowl ride up Pine Flat road. Max Sonoma County CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Jack Taylor photos - build assist (and many parts) from RBW
Thanks for the pictures. The shifters are beyond cool. Not riding today. 12 to 14 inches of snow in Nebraska. Scooping my way to the highway. david On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:54 PM, reynoldslugs wrote: Michael Lawrence helped me get this frame in about '99. After email correspondence, we spoke on the phone; he was very pleasant to deal with. These were the last frames done by Jack and Norman, and were apparently hanging in Michael's attic or barn or ?. He said, over the phone, that the blue bike showed Norman's wavery hand in the lug lining, so that's the one I chose. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/6818454705/in/set-72157629173650165/ I was just getting back into cycling again, after a 15 year hiatus. Thanks to Rivendell, I was excited again about bikes, and GP helped me choose some new parts (lugged stem, brooks saddle, Rolly-Polly's) to go with a mix of new and NOS parts. For example, the Campagnolo Hi-Lo hubset found a mate in a set of new Campagnolo Montreal rims. Hope you like the pics from my dinky Olympus cycling camera. Anyway, it's a great bike, a lovely rider, with plenty of memories. Getting it ready for tomorrow's Super Bowl ride up Pine Flat road. Max Sonoma County CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Jack Taylor photos - build assist (and many parts) from RBW
That headtube photo is beautiful and poignant. Far better than perfect. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/6818456461/in/set-72157629173650165/ On Feb 4, 12:17 pm, David Blessing cyberbless...@q.com wrote: Thanks for the pictures. The shifters are beyond cool. Not riding today. 12 to 14 inches of snow in Nebraska. Scooping my way to the highway. david On Feb 4, 2012, at 1:54 PM, reynoldslugs wrote: Michael Lawrence helped me get this frame in about '99. After email correspondence, we spoke on the phone; he was very pleasant to deal with. These were the last frames done by Jack and Norman, and were apparently hanging in Michael's attic or barn or ?. He said, over the phone, that the blue bike showed Norman's wavery hand in the lug lining, so that's the one I chose. http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/6818454705/in/set-721576291... I was just getting back into cycling again, after a 15 year hiatus. Thanks to Rivendell, I was excited again about bikes, and GP helped me choose some new parts (lugged stem, brooks saddle, Rolly-Polly's) to go with a mix of new and NOS parts. For example, the Campagnolo Hi-Lo hubset found a mate in a set of new Campagnolo Montreal rims. Hope you like the pics from my dinky Olympus cycling camera. Anyway, it's a great bike, a lovely rider, with plenty of memories. Getting it ready for tomorrow's Super Bowl ride up Pine Flat road. Max Sonoma County CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Hunqapillar Price Increase
I was browsing the Riv site and was surprised to see the fairly considerable(and very recent) price increase for the Hunqapillar frame. The frames made in Taiwan(like mine) increased to $1,800, while the Waterford/Wisconsin made frames increased to $1,875. That's up from $1,500 and $1,600, respectively. That's a 20% increase for the Taiwan made frames, and a 17.19% increase for the Waterford/Wisconsin made frames. Check it out: Hunqapillarhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-hunqapillar.htm The other models seem to be holding to their current prices. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/4h5G2itvI1oJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Price Increase
I should add that I think the Hunqapillar is well worth the new price(s)...seriously. It's an amazing bike with an amazing ride. Of course, I'm really glad to have gotten mine before the increase. Who wouldn't be, right? And, I *know* that Rivendell wouldn't have resorted to increasing the price(s), if they didn't *absolutely* *have to do it*. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/zHFofUv3T00J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Price Increase
It was probably underpriced to begin with, especially with the lug-lined paint job. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Ves4_fSPzVgJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: new bars spy shot-- Alba-moose?
I think you'll want a longer stem for a NewBar. There's some serious reach on that thing. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/gHH0C6ein5MJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Atlantis 54.5 Deluxe - Like New - Asking $3500 OBO
Oh man, look at all that shiny XTR stuff. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/nGxn7LWYKZcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
If this had been available in the summer I would have probably done it. Since it wasn't, I spent a lot of time working with an excellent LBS to spec my Sam - mostly because Riv was a lot more $ for the same stuff. This way would have come out about the same price, less effort and probably a few smarter decisions on parts. Maybe for the next one. Jay On Jan 27, 7:20 am, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote: John: Wonderful concept but one bit of whining about the 9 speed cassette: 11-32 instead of the 12-36? I hate to come on like I'm grading papers but IMHO 11t cogs are useless but a 36t has real value. Sometimes its the little stuff that's the difference between good great. dougP On Jan 26, 12:08 pm, John Bennett johnat...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for noticing, Leslie. These are the components that work so well together on our frames (and we recommend them time and time again), so we thought we would make it easier for everyone by offering them as kits. We knocked a little of the collective price to make it more attractive, too. Cheers, John at RBW On Jan 26, 9:48 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Check it out! http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/build-03.htm-Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Touch up color for SimpleOne?
I'm curious if anybody has found a good off the shelf touch up color for the Simple One frame. I don't need it yet, but it seems inevitable! --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Is the San Marcos a true Rivendell?
What build did you use? What would one expect to pay for that build? Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist On Jan 25, 2012, at 7:33 PM, Dick Denning countrybikes...@frontier.com wrote: Pat: I said a 58cm San Marco, but I meant 59. My mistake, sorry. Dick Denning -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/R0slfTJH7gEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Last of its kind.
Sweet rides, David. Love the rear fender and the reflective bits on the Surley DennisH On Jan 28, 4:34 pm, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote: This is my new 66 cm Atlantis, I got the frame from Mountain Sports in Virginia. They were nice people to deal with, thanks Steve. I have been gradually building it up, still waiting for the proper tires to arrive from Rivendell. Also pictures of my Quickbeam and Surly Troll. My cup runneth over. http://www.flickr.com/photos/51518228@N06/sets/72157629073631297/with... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider
Jim, Welcome! I really dig the light and lean build you have in those pictures. No doubt the AHH is a great ride, with the addition of the saddle sack and other bits you must be commuting in style. I ride considerably smaller bikes. I used to own a 54cm RIvendell Saluki (a 650b bike that is now part of the AHH line) I still regret parting with it. JL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider
Jim, What is the standover height on your bike? Is it 96.5 as listed in the most recent geometry chart? (tires would effect that, just curious what you are working with) It must be the up-sloping top tube on the Bombadil that put it higher. JL On Jan 29, 9:01 pm, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote: That is absolutely correct. I was seriously thinking about a custom, probably a Gunnar Grand Tour, but when you see the Riv frames, and you know they are right, and they are beautiful, it felt like the right decision from the get-go. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Assorted Bags
I am the proud new owner of Duy's 52 cm Ram, which I bought to replace a 54 which was a tad too big. I want to ride this bike long distances, so fit is everything. Anyway, in case anyone was wondering the bike truly is a 52 and rides great. Duy sent it to me via Amtrak, which ends up being a great way to ship bikes if you live near a station with baggage service. Also, over the years I have purchased and tried numerous bag set ups for my bikes. Over time I've learned what works for me and what doesn't. As a result, I have several bags to sell. I'll be putting these on Craigslist, but thought I would offer them up here first. I will add actual shipping costs to the final price. Email me directly for pics and more info. Thanks! Joyce Acorn medium saddlebag, tan, like new condition $65 Detours Toocan, juicy woven, like new condition $40 Arkel Bug, black and red, good used condition $40 Detours Leto handlebar bag, black, good used condition $20 Sackville bar sack, grid grey, like new condition $85 Nitto F-15 BarSackRack for Sackville bar sack, like new condition $40 Sackville SaddleSack small, grid grey, like new condition $70 Sackville fender mud flaps (pair), grid grey, like new condtion $15 The infamous Hupe, like new condition $20 Detours XCountry Cycle panniers (pair) yellow, used condition $60 Detours XCountry Tour panniers (pair) yellow, used condition $70 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Is the San Marcos a true Rivendell?
Guys, I can't tell you how helpful your responses have been. Thank you! I could have been more clear in my question. My concern was with the build and ride quality of the San Marcos. The whole Rivendell thing is relatively new to me, but I am enthused about what I'm reading. The only negative comment I've seen from a Riv owner after much searching on the internew relates to bike color. My purpose in looking into Riv bikes was to find something more suitable for all day rides, SAG supported touring, etc. I have a Specialized Roubaix which I greatly enjoy, but the old neck and shoulders begin to talk to me after several hours on the saddle. Dick, I really appreciated our conversation today. I emailed you a few more questions. Thanks. Pat On Jan 27, 9:30 am, Sean Whelan strummer_...@yahoo.com wrote: Dusty- I would really love to see a review of the difference between the Stanyan and the San Marcos. Both are made and built in the same place, and distributed by SOMA, but the San Marcos has Grant's design. If you get around to posting a detailed comparison, I would be so happy! Thanks, Sean --- On Thu, 1/26/12, DustyMerkin samcoal...@gmail.com wrote: From: DustyMerkin samcoal...@gmail.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Is the San Marcos a true Rivendell? To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thursday, January 26, 2012, 9:25 PM I own a San Marcos frame, and had a Rambouillet a few years back. The San Marcos is built to the same quality as the Ram but uses nicer lugs, at least nicer looking. The bottom bracket is actually stamped Rivendell! In terms of ride quality, that is still up in the air since I have actually not built it up to ride. I have a 2TT version and I'm really surprised at how light it is, actually feels about the same as my Soma Stanyan. On Jan 26, 5:50 pm, Bill Carter billcar...@gmail.com wrote: Pat, I am an older rider also, and I own a Heron road which is a similar bike, designed by Grant back in the day, made by Waterford and distributed through a special Heron dealer network but also sold by Riv. I bought and built it new about eight years ago, and for me it rides better than anything, including a Waterford 1250 that I also have in my stable. It's handling is quick and sporty, but predicatable and confidence inspiring in a way that is hard to describe, and it takes long downhills like nobody's business. It truly is the last bike I'd give up, and most Riv afficionados regard the Heron as in the family, if not a true Rivendell. I received one of the Riv headbadge logo decals in an order from RBW HQ, slapped that sucker on the seat tube, so now I am all set! At least until it peals off. Best thing about it is that if you find you don't like the SOMA San Marcos (not likely), it should be easy to sell and recoup at least most of your investment. The SOMA line has a following of its own, and when when you combine that with the Riv connection (much like my Waterford made Heron)you can appeal to two groups of loyalists. Best of luck, and let the list know what you decide. Oh, and we do like pictures. Bill Carter On Jan 24, 5:52 pm, Pat revfirstsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Folks, I am an old guy (almost 64) and just finished my second year of cycling. I put in 4200 miles last year on a carbon frame bike which I like, but I'm looking around for something more comfortable for longer rides and light touring. I ran across the Rivendells a couple of months ago. I like what I'm reading and I'm esp interested in the Sam Hillborne and San Marcos. Do you Riv owners consider the San Marcos a true Rivendell? Can I expect the same quality ride, etc. from the San Marcos as I would the other Riv bikes? (I'm asking because it doesn't bear the Riv name.) Thanks in advance for your help. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Intro from new Riv rider
On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Jim jamesfek...@gmail.com wrote: That is absolutely correct. I was seriously thinking about a custom, probably a Gunnar Grand Tour, but when you see the Riv frames, and you know they are right, and they are beautiful, it felt like the right decision from the get-go. Jim -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pZw0hqqO55cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS Nigel Smythe Matching blue tweed bags
Hello if anyone is in need of matching blue tweed bags I have the saddlebag and handlebar bag and handlebar bag cover. I would be interested in a trade of possibly the Kevin bag in tweed or the Banana bag in tweed or both. I might be interested in parting with both and no trades. Both are in excellent condition. If you are interested Please email me at lhtbikert...@gmail.com If you would like pictures just email me or text me at 4055356701 Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Zipper fix or replacement advice?
Zipper repair kit to the rescue *http://tinyurl.com/87tnr77. These kits commonly live wilderness hikers' back packs, and for good reason. Best Larry * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/SDBhCZLN3AwJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Which are more puncture resistant? Supremes vs Pasela TGs
I have 35mm Mara Supremes on my Quickbeam and will be getting 40's on my Sam Hillborne (next week!). I've ridden probably 5,000 miles on the Maras after wearing out the Jack Browns the Quickbeam came with, and I must say they have a great feel and very good durability. I've gotten holes in two because of nails, and I just damaged a third as my stainless fender came undone and ripped it up some. When subjected to normal use they are more than reliable, have a long tread life, and have a really fun, light feel. I may be going to Marathon's w/ greenguard on the QB rather than repairing my Maras. Rode those a while on a geared bike and really enjoyed them. I think the 32 beats the Pasela mightily in quality.They list as heavy but they don't feel it, and with the the 7-10k mile life Riv estimates and @ $42 each, they're a real deal for a high mileage commuter. On Jan 30, 9:06 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, the JB blues might be a good option. I have some greens but no miles on them to evaluate... need to work on that! On 1/30/12, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I like my Marathon Supremes 700x40 (38mm) but put on my older standard marathon 700x47's (41mm actual) for the winter.because of their thick sidewalls. Never had a flat with the Supremes and they are pretty light and fast rolling for a 38mm wide tire. I've ridden Urban Max 700x32, Pasela TG 700x32 and standard Pasela blackwalls 700x35 and also the Ribmo in 700x35 (32 actual) the Ribmo is a tough tire similar to the Supremes but a little heavier. If you want no Flats dry the Marathon Plus or the new Greenguard Marathon I think those are as good as you can get. Maybe the cool new blue tubes Grant sells would be helpful also. On Jan 30, 9:34 am, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Well, it's like this. I used to commute on an old (steel) MTB with SMPs to avoid having to change flats to/from work. When I got my Sam Hillborne this summer I treated myself to a set of Marathon Supremes. Riding home in the rain today I got a Puncture!!! Not a pinch flat, not a bad valve stem, a puncture. Unacceptable! What if I had been late for work? Couldn't find the culprit so I washed and dried the tire in my kids' bathtub (never done that before, seems like a good idea though) and ended up mounting an almost new Pasela TG I had in the closet. So, did I just get unlucky or are the Supremes not good enough for the roads around here? Are Paselas any better or do I need to go back to SMPs? Vital stats - puncture was in the rear tire (where else?) with about 2000 km on it, 80 psi. I know some people are willing to accept the occasional flat if the tires offers exceptional comfort or speed or whatever. That's fine for them, I just want to get to work and home again without getting my hand dirty. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Traveling to NYC from Feb. 4 to Feb. 12
Anytime Amit ... just lemme know. On Jan 30, 7:25 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: Hopefully with the well-loved Atlantis I just inherited and am building up now (thanks Clif)! http://www.flickr.com/photos/amisingh/6792554183/ Anyone want to go for a ride? :) Best, Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS two blue tweed Nigel Smythe bags
I have the handlebar bag and saddlebag and the rain cover for the handlebar bag. Looking for a Marks bag in tweed or maybe a Banana bag in tweed. Both are in excellent shape. Contact me either email or text 5055356701 if you need pictures or have questions. I will part with both and no trades. 175.00 Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Best barcons ever?
Am I the only one who likes the look (and feel) of long barcons? They are so elegant and on my 53-55cm frames don't get in the way. I like the look of these modified levers but prefer the long length. JL On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:12 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Genius! ^^^ except you could probably skip 'polish' if you are going to dip+twine+shellac. I love the thought nonetheless. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/RuVz8JhqV50J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: 66cm Peter Mooney
SOLD! Going to a good home in VT. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nuance of the rebate system
In the past, the yearly rebate was a really nice surprise gift ... and nothing I really thought about as I made purchases during the year. Since the system has changed, I may think about it just a hair more, but it's still something I'll see (as John mentioned) as a very nice thank you and not some kind of member benefit that I'm entitled to. I understand that this economy tends to put us all in a mode of trying to maximize every possible dollar, though, so being aware of how the new system works is a good thing. If it helps make life easier, perhaps we could just work it like this: Since the rebates expire in 120 days (or thereabouts), just buy stuff without worrying about it for each 120-day period ... then at the end of that period, buy something nice for yourself that equals your available rebate and start over. In other words, get the stuff you need without thinking of rebates from January through April ... then on April 30, use your available rebate dollars to get something extra. Do the same for May-August and September-December. Just mark your calendar so you don't forget ... but John did say the grace period is incredibly long, so I'm sure if you do forget, you won't be denied. Looking at it that way, you buy stuff as usual and get a free (or close enough) gift for yourself 3 times each year! Maybe that's the spirit in which it was intended? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?
Sounds like a fun ride and I wish around here we had something like that to ride on. Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:34 PM, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I just took a nice 22 mile out and back, 3/4 dirt, along our Rio Grande bosque trails and fire roads: wonderful ride. I find that I am considerably less tempted to do the time trial schtick on dirt than I am on pavement, making for a more pleasant ride and -- mirabile dictu! -- fast, comfortable mini time trials on the way back, on dirt, thanks to having given myself ample time to warm up. But enough about me. After riding the (insert name of non-Rivendell, but IMO very Rivendellish, tigg'd, Salsa model here -- steel! steel! It's steel!!) with the skinny Sun Rhyno wheelset with 40 mm Ritchey Speed Maxes for a couple of months, I finally got around to going to the fabric store and buying a roll of 1 1/2' ribbon wherewith to provide the SnoCat SLs with rim strips (I was tempted to buy some very pretty brocade type ribbon but saved my $$ and bought basic black) so I could re-install the Big Apples. Today's ride was on the BA wheelset at about 12/18 psi, and I was once again surprised and pleased at how well the 60 mm BAs roll; on pavement -- tho' they are faster at a few psi more: say 20/25 -- but especially on firm dirt and gravel; I swear up and down that they roll ***as well*** on the sub 1 sand, packed clay, woodcut debris and light gravel of the route I took as they do (at 12/18) on smooth pavement. (As I was cruising at 18 mph on the gravel verge of the bike path, a youngster passed me (on pavement) and said, Nice beast!) Me, I'd rather push a soft BA on pavement than push a hard, skinny, sub 50 mm tire on dirt. So, what's y'all's preference for combination on/off road riding? Fat and soft on pavement, or skinny, hard 42s on dirt? Patrick God willing, will pick up my 35 mm Kojaks for the Rhyno Lite wheelset -- strictly pavement! -- tomorrow Moore -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nuance of the rebate system
I see this from 2 sides... As a Riv customer... I like the old system better. Getting the once a year lump sum felt like a gift with substance. The new system feels like a quarter from grandma. I remember reading somewhere in one of the spiels about charitable contributions that donating $10,000 to one charity has significantly more value than donating $1 each to 10,000 charities. I feel like the same principal applies to the old v new rebate system. But I also see this as a guy who has worked at small business and as a former small business owner... and having visited Riv HQ. I don't believe this is some sort of scheme to pad anyone's salary. I have no doubt that Riv spends a lot of time financially treading water. Giving away a bunch of merchandise in the first quarter of every year under the old system can't be helpful. Spreading that dispursement out in small chunks throughout the year has got to be easier to absorb. I'd rather have the occasional $5-10 than have them discontinue the rebates all together. There are places I shop because they're cheap but my attraction to Riv goes beyond that. The rebate is gravy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/qLs7Sxav7tkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riding around Honolulu
When I'm in Honolulu visiting relatives, I like to climb up Round Top Drive/Tantalus loop. Very few cars, you're climbing up in a park with tons of wild cats, chickens, mongooses and boars (although I've never seen the last one!). Go to the third map down here and look for the Mikiki district to see the loop: http://hawaii.gov/dot/highways/Bike/oahu/Honolulu.htm Note - Tantalus is steeper and has more switch backs than Round Top. However, the view on RT is amazing. Enjoy! Brewster -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/78tyRyqpTH4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: a few more bullmoose
Do you have a picture of the bar on your QB? Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:25 PM, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: I LOVE mine -- use it all the time on my QB for commuting. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 1, 2012, at 1:55 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Nice find, Jeremy. I did a similar thing. The SlickerSack had disappeared off the Sale list before I could pull the trigger. I was filled with regret that I didn't act quickly enough. I've got a Platrack and use it a lot. Having no Slickersack forever just seemed like a wasted chance. Then yesterday, I noticed the SlickerSack back up there on the closeouts page, in Olive! I hit the Buy button almost immediately. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/fjIF0EFyFEcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] a few more bullmoose
Wish I had a bike for those bars. Because they are an interesting design. Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like Riv managed to scrounge up a few more Bullmoose bars, from the colored/unpainted run http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/hb4ws.htm No procrastination this time, I ordered a pair (200mm, unpainted) as soon as I saw they were up! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/utzJsdCgjDoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Berthoud, Nitto, M.A.P.
for sale: Berthoud decaleur. Horizontal 91. $60 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem 26.0 clamp. 100 extension. Used, but in excellent condition. $35 M.A.P. light bracket for metal fenders. As seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/6055950533/ New, never used. $15 I accept paypal. I will split USPS shipping 50/50. Pictures upon request. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv Redwood for sale 65cm $1300 + shipping
SOLD! Thanks! John -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/lZ1gtuJWNb0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What kind of mustache wax to use?
I also liked firemans', but ended up using Oregon Wild hair most often. Easier to work with, nicer smell, and they sell a starter kit with a brush, bag, etc. Enjoy! -Dave On Jan 23, 2:44 pm, Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com wrote: I've been letting my natural 'wool buff' grow out to protect my face from the cold while riding so now I look something like this: o(|8-{D Rather than trimming my mustache I'd like to curl it up. What kind of mustache wax have you used? What do you like? Anything to stay clear of? And ... a few photos from my most recent adventure ride on Saturday in Detroit. Lots of fun Bombadil photos and a few of above referenced facial hair. http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150485746682260.370087.697... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit with should be $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can see everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Price Increase
I fully agree, underpriced. Glad I bought mine at $1500. A joy to own and ride.. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New BO Moustache bar
My guess is that build only inventory will refer to parts that are only available to order if you are purchasing a frame and having Riv put the bike together with parts from their inventory. If you were just to call and order the bar, it would be unavailable. On Feb 3, 7:25 pm, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: It looks like it's just the normal moustache bar (same description and designation, RM-016), but categorized under Build Only Inventory. Not sure what that means. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Kojak!
I just took Ritchey Tom Slicks 26x1.0 off my wife's XO-1; nothing wrong with them except they were hell to mount and dismount. I'm putting on Pasela TG with kevlar bead...got one mounted yesterday, and it was MUCH easier to mount. Only 260g, says the packaging, so fairly light. I'm hoping it performs well. My wife wanted the TG model, so that's what we bought...and she tends to roll through debris that I avoid. The Tom Slicks had wire beads. Joe On Feb 3, 1:27 pm, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote: On Feb 3, 2012, at 11:09 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: I used the 559X32 mm (1.25) Pasela and was less than overwhelmed. The Kojak rolls better and is certainly more flat resistant; of course it costs more than twice as much. What 559X1 tires did you use? I haven't ridden the Kojaks enough to say for sure, but I *think* they roll as well as the tiny, light (198 gr) and supple NOS 559 Specialized Turbos, hitherto my benchmark for fast, 559 tires. In 26 x 1.0 I used the Ritchey Tom Slicks, the Continental GPs and Pr1mo Racers in particular. The Specialized tires I have never even seen. The Ritcheys were prone to casing failures so I stopped using them although they were pretty fast. The Pr1mos were really fragile- but fast- and I stopped using those. I used the Specialized Fatboy 1.25s and was underwhelmed by those. The smaller wheels seem more susceptible to tire performance than 700C wheels, IME. Something I don't get about 26 wheels is that almost every tire maker that makes tires for that size seems to think they have to be built like tanks with thick rubber, honking tread patterns, puncture proof BS, yadda yadda yadda. You end up with a 1.25 or 1.5 wide tire that weighs 600 g. A light high performance tire for 559 wheels is hard to find. I must factor in the much greater weight of the Kojaks -- the 559X1.35 wire beads are just under 400 grams -- which seems to add to the inertial feel of the wheels (particularly noticeable on a fixed gear), but again, both the 559 and 622 pairs seem to be as good rolling as any tire I've used. I also seem to feel that the Kojaks are more supple at similar pressures than the Paselas -- certainly I was surprised by the feel of the new 35s. Thanks for that. I am trying to remember if I have seen the Kojaks at Hiawatha Cyclery (since that's the only bike shop I go to, I wouldn't have seen them anywhere else). I've had one pair of Schwalbe tires, some racy 355 size ones back when I had my Birdy folder. They were better than the stock tires (which were cheap and cheesy). But Schwalbe's over-emphasis on flat protection leaves me cold. The tires end up being way too heavy and at least in one's hand seem like they would be slow and lifeless on the road. I am usually not that bothered by flats, I normally only get 3-4 per year with the Paselas which have thin rubber and no puncture protection type stuff (I don't use the TGs). We've got no goatheads around here and while there's some broken glass it's not as bad as many places. Too many years of bike racing- performance and speed are still a primary interest for me when riding a bike. I am not happy on a bike over 25 lbs and not happy if it doesn't feel fast. I want lightness, nimbleness and speed since I ride for fun almost exclusively (even when riding to work- I do it because it's fun). But I also dislike plastic frames and wheels with too-few spokes, and I prefer DT friction shifters... and I've reached an age where Lycra is not such a good idea. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] 61cm Atlantis on Chicago CL
No connection or editorializing here, just the link: http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/bik/2833303768.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?
Sort of a side track from the OP but regarding wheel size trends... My wife has a Kona brand commuter type bike. She's 5'3. The frame's a 50cm or so (I forget exactly and it's not available to measure at the moment). It has 700c wheels. The top of the back wheel is level with the bottom of the seat. It has fenders and a rear rack. The rack is so far above the braze-ons that it made more sense to zip-tie it to the seat rails. It's a perfect example of why wheel size as a trend is foolish. The wheels are way to big for the bike... poor design. The wife's Betty Foy is 650b and is much more proportionally appropriate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ee9AwNnBSMEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis vs. Sam
i know it tends to be a different comparison, given the price and all. but let's assume the price is the same. i can't decide. at all. and price is an issue but still wanna compare. this is where i'm stuck. i want a bike that can tour. but can mostly serve as fun and quick, spirited normal everyday bikes. i don't need a fast bike. i just want a quick bike. i like the atlantis better, but im nervous that it will be sluggish unloaded. maybe dat ain't true-i dunno. anyways. horrible grammar aside, i am hoping some sam owners and atlantis owners would chime in. and if you own both. that'd be even betta! thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
It still doesn't make sense to me. Albas $60 + grips $24 + tiagra levers $55 = $139 Noodles $81 + shimano levers $33 = $114 Everything else looks the same. I'm just asking out of curiousity and because I happened to notice. I'm quite happy with the pick it yourself build home brew build kit on my Sam. If these kits were available when I build mine this probably would have driven me nuts, since I wanted the Noodles. As it is I think I may have been better off with Albas, but that's another story. Jay On Feb 3, 8:43 pm, Dave Rivbike d...@rivbike.com wrote: the 8sp was a typo. all kits are 9. noodles and tiagra brake levers cost more than the alba/mtb levers On Feb 2, 8:25 pm, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com wrote: Any idea why the 8 speed Noodle kit is $120 more than the 9 speed Albas? As far as I can tell everything else is the same. Jay On Feb 3, 4:14 am, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday, January 27, 2012 11:31:24 AM UTC-5, Darin G. wrote: Are these only available with albatross bars or am I missing something? They are now showing Noodles, Albatross, and Moustache bars; pick the bar, pick the wheelsize, and Bob's your uncle... :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Kojak!
I can also recommend the Kojak 35 mm's. Being close to 33 mm on standard rims they are the absolute max what I can squeeze in on my XO-1 with fenders, and I've enjoyed them for two years now. Would love to be able to fit the larger 2/50 mm ones, but I have to find another bike for that. Anyway, I can't recall that I've had a single flat with the Kojak's, and I've also outrolled many people on supposedly fast(er) tires. /Johan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tzweH2s8k3UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Rally East 2012
Bobby, This is TOM NEZOVICH, RBW'er from Cleveland. I would like to be included in this year's Riv Rally East I could start in Cumberland or Frostburg. I will be starting from Cumberland in either case. I would like to be included in the Paddlers Lane Retreat guest house accommodation. I will NOT need the shuttles to return to Cumberland. ( I'll be riding back...retired is nice.) I will go to Fallingwater if you need another to fill out a group but I am not planning on it. Tom Nezovich On Jan 25, 2012, at 10:09 PM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Additional Info: Lodging In Cumberland, MD http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/get_amenities_city.cfm?PassCity=CumberlandMap=1 In Frostburg, MD http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/get_amenities_city.cfm?PassCity=FrostburgMap=1 http://www.atatrail.org/docs/frostburgbrochure.pdf In Confluence, PA http://www.atatrail.org/tmi/get_amenities_city.cfm?PassCity=ConfluenceMap=2 http://www.atatrail.org/docs/confluencebrochure.pdf Long Term Parking In Cumberland, MD - Under I68 at Howard St and S. Mechanic St (free long-term parking for CO trail) - At N. Mechanic and Frederick - Public Pay Lot ($4/day?) - Reference: Web Site - http://bikewashington.org/canal/plan-parking.php In Frostburg, MD - Trailhead parking on Depot Street - Reference: Web site - http://www.atatrail.org/docs/frostburgbrochure.pdf In Connellsville, PA - Northern tip of 3rd St, under Hwy 119 - Reference: Web site - http://www.atatrail.org/docs/connellsvillebrochure.pdf Peace, BB On Jan 25, 6:57 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Shuttle Update: Good news... Wilderness Voyageurs (WV) provided me with what I consider a very reasonable rate for 2 vans (to shuttle approx 25 passengers plus bikes and gear). They have a large rack on top of one van, and a box trailer for the balance of the bikes and gear. The price quote is $415, which translates to roughly $17 per person (if we have 25), or $28 per person (if we have 15), etc... you get the idea. We pay for the vans and trailer, regardless of the number of people. Either way I think that's a very reasonable price (compared to other quotes for large buses). I would like to propose leaving our cars in Cumberland (or optionally Frostburg) and getting shuttled back on Sunday (I will explain why in a moment). WV is located in Ohiopyle. PA just off the trail. As we pass through Ohiopyle on Sunday (Apr 22), we CAN opt to use WV to shuttle us up to Fallingwater, IF folks would like to take a tour. The cost would be $25 per van (from WV HQ), which adds only $2 per person. I have sent in an inquiry to the Fallingwater people requesting a group tour rate (normally $22 individually). We'll see if they can accommodate a group of 25 for the Noon time slot; THEN it's up to us to decide whether we'd like to include this tour or not. Another option would be to have a nice, relaxing lunch in Ohiopyle. I'd like your thoughts, please. Next up will be a decision on lodging and shuttle options. The WV folks made a pretty good case for leaving our cars in Cumberland MD, citing better parking options, and actually by leaving cars in Cumberland, another advantage would be to allow late arrivals on Friday night (or even Saturday morning), by not having to pre-shuttle at a predetermined time. Moreover, we can check in with WV at Ohiopyle on Sunday, and provide a pretty accurate time estimate for when we'll need pickup in Connellsville, which is 17 miles down river. The disadvantage to this is that it tacks on additional time and distance for our friends coming from the North. But Sunday will be a shorter day, and I'd anticipate arriving in Connellsville around 3, putting us back in Cumberland by around 5 PM. For those who would prefer to start in Frostburg (which is 16 miles up trail from Cumberland), this would give you a later start on Sat AM (while you wait for the rally to catch up) and it would spare you 16 miles of additional climbing (albeit at a gradual 1% grade or less). I'm sure we can convince the WV crew to drop people in Frostburg on the way back into Cumberland on Sunday, but they may tack on a small surcharge. Another option for those wishing to start from Frostburg on Saturday would be to arrive in Cumberland during the day on Friday, leaving your car in Cumberland, then riding 16 miles to Frostburg up the climb to a hotel in Frostburg... then you can sleep in on Sat while the rest of us huff and puff our way up to meet you. Finally, for lodging options in Confluence, I would strongly recommend reserving the Paddlers Lane Retreat guest house, which can accommodate at least a dozen, and costs about $425 a night (which is a bargain if we fill it). Here's a link to their site -http://www.paddlerslane.com/id9.html. There are other BB accommodations that folks can make on their own, with prices and quality of
[RBW] Re: What kind of mustache wax to use?
If I remember correctly, Stern is the top choice for moustasch wax. It was definitely Hungarian, but I'll check with my source and get back if wrong. http://www.bartwichse.de/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/-uq3LJb8IDcJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
Atlantis. No question. Classic. Build it up light, and it will do mostly what you want. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Feb 4, 4:17 pm, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote: i know it tends to be a different comparison, given the price and all. but let's assume the price is the same. i can't decide. at all. and price is an issue but still wanna compare. this is where i'm stuck. i want a bike that can tour. but can mostly serve as fun and quick, spirited normal everyday bikes. i don't need a fast bike. i just want a quick bike. i like the atlantis better, but im nervous that it will be sluggish unloaded. maybe dat ain't true-i dunno. anyways. horrible grammar aside, i am hoping some sam owners and atlantis owners would chime in. and if you own both. that'd be even betta! thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Build kits!
We're comparing our prices, not their costs; different items might have lesser margins than others... Might be, the Noodle sets are inline w/ where they should be, and they can discount the Albatross sets more... I don't know, just guessing. I'm not worrying about it, I tend to pick other stuff myself, but see these as great ways to simplify a build for the majority of customers... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/YSYRB90aiX0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes?
As GP demonstrated with the blue tun of Rams, a smaller wheel allows a sensible geometry tor shorter riders. I have the 52 cm with 559 mm wheels and love it. Even a slighter bigger frame works on a smaller wheel. Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: Smitty-A-Go-Go 54ca...@gmail.com Sent: Fri Feb 03 16:08:09 CST 2012 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Pavement/dirt; fat/skinny; hard/soft: what are your likes? Sort of a side track from the OP but regarding wheel size trends... My wife has a Kona brand commuter type bike. She's 5'3. The frame's a 50cm or so (I forget exactly and it's not available to measure at the moment). It has 700c wheels. The top of the back wheel is level with the bottom of the seat. It has fenders and a rear rack. The rack is so far above the braze-ons that it made more sense to zip-tie it to the seat rails. It's a perfect example of why wheel size as a trend is foolish. The wheels are way to big for the bike... poor design. The wife's Betty Foy is 650b and is much more proportionally appropriate. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ee9AwNnBSMEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Assorted Bags
Congrats on your new bike. Wishing you many happy miles. My 52 is coming up on 9,000 mi and still looks and rides great Sent from my Kindle Fire _ From: Linkbeak linkb...@gmail.com Sent: Sun Jan 29 15:19:21 CST 2012 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] FS: Assorted Bags I am the proud new owner of Duy's 52 cm Ram, which I bought to replace a 54 which was a tad too big. I want to ride this bike long distances, so fit is everything. Anyway, in case anyone was wondering the bike truly is a 52 and rides great. Duy sent it to me via Amtrak, which ends up being a great way to ship bikes if you live near a station with baggage service. Also, over the years I have purchased and tried numerous bag set ups for my bikes. Over time I've learned what works for me and what doesn't. As a result, I have several bags to sell. I'll be putting these on Craigslist, but thought I would offer them up here first. I will add actual shipping costs to the final price. Email me directly for pics and more info. Thanks! Joyce Acorn medium saddlebag, tan, like new condition $65 Detours Toocan, juicy woven, like new condition $40 Arkel Bug, black and red, good used condition $40 Detours Leto handlebar bag, black, good used condition $20 Sackville bar sack, grid grey, like new condition $85 Nitto F-15 BarSackRack for Sackville bar sack, like new condition $40 Sackville SaddleSack small, grid grey, like new condition $70 Sackville fender mud flaps (pair), grid grey, like new condtion $15 The infamous Hupe, like new condition $20 Detours XCountry Cycle panniers (pair) yellow, used condition $60 Detours XCountry Tour panniers (pair) yellow, used condition $70 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
Sam..I'm 220 lbs. and ride a single TT 60cm. It is perfect in feel as a day trip bike. Handles a med. basket and large Saddlesack with up to 4 days gear great.There is a little flex when running a set of Toursacks on the rear for longer trips 'cause they hang behind the rear axle and aren't as close to the rider/bike COG as a saddlebag, but I only notice it if I shake the handle bars back and forth on purpose. I do camp/tour with ultralight backpacking gear, though. I'd rather have a slightly flexy touring bike than a stiffish day bike. I've been riding larger framed B'stone RB-1 and RB-T for 20+ years...so I like a compliant frame feel. Sam as an everyday bike + light tourer.No question.;-) MTCW. On Feb 4, 7:17 pm, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote: i know it tends to be a different comparison, given the price and all. but let's assume the price is the same. i can't decide. at all. and price is an issue but still wanna compare. this is where i'm stuck. i want a bike that can tour. but can mostly serve as fun and quick, spirited normal everyday bikes. i don't need a fast bike. i just want a quick bike. i like the atlantis better, but im nervous that it will be sluggish unloaded. maybe dat ain't true-i dunno. anyways. horrible grammar aside, i am hoping some sam owners and atlantis owners would chime in. and if you own both. that'd be even betta! thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
I just got an Atlantis. I have been riding it every day, since the weather here has been unseasonably warm. The Atlantis is not slow. (There are a lot of good things I could say about it, you know how it is when you get a new bike. But that isn't the topic at hand.) The major factors limiting your speed are air resistance, and the power you can generate. The weight of tubing is inconsequential. I haven't ridden a Sam Hillborne, it looks like a great bike. But the Atlantis is not sluggish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS Nigel Smythe Matching blue tweed bags
I have made other plans because I did not realize my ad was going to show up. Thanks Artist/Art Educator/Bicyclist On Jan 30, 2012, at 5:45 PM, carla waugh lhtbikert...@gmail.com wrote: Hello if anyone is in need of matching blue tweed bags I have the saddlebag and handlebar bag and handlebar bag cover. I would be interested in a trade of possibly the Kevin bag in tweed or the Banana bag in tweed or both. I might be interested in parting with both and no trades. Both are in excellent condition. If you are interested Please email me at lhtbikert...@gmail.com If you would like pictures just email me or text me at 4055356701 Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Big bikes and limits
JimD, You have any photos of your custom? Aaron -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/WcpshYPmF2YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
Go for the Atlantis. You'll be delighted with its enduring design, good looks, durability, agility, and practicality. Nuthin' slow or sluggish about 'em. Here's a story on my Atlantis: http://chasingmailboxes.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/bikes-to-like-kevin-t-s-rivendell-atlantis/ Lots of Atlantis photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/akrando/sets/72157609908249398/ On Feb 4, 6:33 pm, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote: I just got an Atlantis. I have been riding it every day, since the weather here has been unseasonably warm. The Atlantis is not slow. (There are a lot of good things I could say about it, you know how it is when you get a new bike. But that isn't the topic at hand.) The major factors limiting your speed are air resistance, and the power you can generate. The weight of tubing is inconsequential. I haven't ridden a Sam Hillborne, it looks like a great bike. But the Atlantis is not sluggish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Tektro Bigmouth clearances - how big exactly?
Can anyone tell me if the Bigmouth brakes will clear a Jack Brown tire on a 19mm (Open Pro) rim? I have some a href=http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/6818728245/in/photostream;JBs mounted/a but the Shimano calipers don't make taking off the wheel very much fun at all. If they clear, anyone that has a set in good condition they went to sell, drop me a line. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ** “I believe in an America where millions of Americans believe in an America that’s the America millions of Americans believe in. That’s the America I love.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Atlantis vs. Sam
If you are coming off a race-y bike to a Sam or Atlantis, either will feel sluggish. IMO there's not a ton of difference between the two in terms of quickness or the perception of quickness. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/emZ4p0DbB4gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Kojak!
On Feb 3, 2012, at 5:17 AM, Johan Larsson wrote: I can also recommend the Kojak 35 mm's. Being close to 33 mm on standard rims they are the absolute max what I can squeeze in on my XO-1 with fenders, and I've enjoyed them for two years now. Would love to be able to fit the larger 2/50 mm ones, but I have to find another bike for that. Anyway, I can't recall that I've had a single flat with the Kojak's, and I've also outrolled many people on supposedly fast(er) tires. Thanks for that! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
I have both. They ride very similarly. With the Atlantis, you get greater tire capability and slightly more touring capability. When set up with the same drop bars, I have noticed no less speed-capability of the Atlantis compared to the Hillborne. I have in the past set up the Hillborne with drops, but I don't have it that way now. With Hillborne with bullmoose and Atlantis with Noodles, the ride of the Atlantis is much sportier of the two, but I attribute that to the handlebar difference. Anyway, my experience has been that both can be ridden equally fast, and the Atlantis has a few more capabilities in the big tire and touring categories. I think the only reason to choose Hillborne over Atlantis is to save money. In that respect, the Hillborne might be a better value. But if the money is not an issue in this range, I think the Atlantis is the way to go. -Jim W. On Feb 4, 2012, at 7:57 PM, Kevin Turinsky wrote: Go for the Atlantis. You'll be delighted with its enduring design, good looks, durability, agility, and practicality. Nuthin' slow or sluggish about 'em. Here's a story on my Atlantis: http://chasingmailboxes.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/bikes-to-like-kevin-t-s-rivendell-atlantis/ Lots of Atlantis photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/akrando/sets/72157609908249398/ On Feb 4, 6:33 pm, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote: I just got an Atlantis. I have been riding it every day, since the weather here has been unseasonably warm. The Atlantis is not slow. (There are a lot of good things I could say about it, you know how it is when you get a new bike. But that isn't the topic at hand.) The major factors limiting your speed are air resistance, and the power you can generate. The weight of tubing is inconsequential. I haven't ridden a Sam Hillborne, it looks like a great bike. But the Atlantis is not sluggish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net - Remember, my friends, it is better to feel fast than to be fast. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
Atlantis all the way.if I had the money I would get one for sure. Its been Rivendell's flagship model for years now..the Hillborne is a fine machine for sure but it is designed to be more affordable and flexible (fit wise) whereas the Atlantis is a little more refined and traditional from a design perspective. I think the Atlantis is a little beefier and can take wider tires also.important, if you want to carry a load or you are a heavier rider and want to use slightly wider tires sometimes. I think the Hillborne would be fine also if you are under 200 and want to load up modestly. Just my opinion but it is another almost $1000 but..it could be the most versatile bike you may ever own and life is short. If the money isn't too much of an issue I'd go Atlantis in the right size and never look back... On Feb 4, 4:17 pm, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote: i know it tends to be a different comparison, given the price and all. but let's assume the price is the same. i can't decide. at all. and price is an issue but still wanna compare. this is where i'm stuck. i want a bike that can tour. but can mostly serve as fun and quick, spirited normal everyday bikes. i don't need a fast bike. i just want a quick bike. i like the atlantis better, but im nervous that it will be sluggish unloaded. maybe dat ain't true-i dunno. anyways. horrible grammar aside, i am hoping some sam owners and atlantis owners would chime in. and if you own both. that'd be even betta! thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
I've had an Atlantis since '03 but have never ridden the Sam. With a light wheelset the Atlantis is surprisingly responsive quick for a touring bike. I prefer my 40 mm tires on Mavic A719 rims for comfort but I do work harder on that set-up. dougP On Feb 4, 4:17 pm, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote: i know it tends to be a different comparison, given the price and all. but let's assume the price is the same. i can't decide. at all. and price is an issue but still wanna compare. this is where i'm stuck. i want a bike that can tour. but can mostly serve as fun and quick, spirited normal everyday bikes. i don't need a fast bike. i just want a quick bike. i like the atlantis better, but im nervous that it will be sluggish unloaded. maybe dat ain't true-i dunno. anyways. horrible grammar aside, i am hoping some sam owners and atlantis owners would chime in. and if you own both. that'd be even betta! thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis vs. Sam
kevin---that's a fun bike. thanks for all the replies. good stuff. the sam's a good bike i bet. but i suppose the atlantis would be hard to be it seems. On Feb 4, 10:57 pm, Kevin Turinsky kjturin...@mac.com wrote: Go for the Atlantis. You'll be delighted with its enduring design, good looks, durability, agility, and practicality. Nuthin' slow or sluggish about 'em. Here's a story on my Atlantis:http://chasingmailboxes.wordpress.com/2011/11/21/bikes-to-like-kevin-... Lots of Atlantis photos here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/akrando/sets/72157609908249398/ On Feb 4, 6:33 pm, David T. davidtren...@hotmail.com wrote: I just got an Atlantis. I have been riding it every day, since the weather here has been unseasonably warm. The Atlantis is not slow. (There are a lot of good things I could say about it, you know how it is when you get a new bike. But that isn't the topic at hand.) The major factors limiting your speed are air resistance, and the power you can generate. The weight of tubing is inconsequential. I haven't ridden a Sam Hillborne, it looks like a great bike. But the Atlantis is not sluggish.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Assorted Bags
I knew that bike was 52cm. Congrats with the bike! On Jan 29, 1:19 pm, Linkbeak linkb...@gmail.com wrote: I am the proud new owner of Duy's 52 cm Ram, which I bought to replace a 54 which was a tad too big. I want to ride this bike long distances, so fit is everything. Anyway, in case anyone was wondering the bike truly is a 52 and rides great. Duy sent it to me via Amtrak, which ends up being a great way to ship bikes if you live near a station with baggage service. Also, over the years I have purchased and tried numerous bag set ups for my bikes. Over time I've learned what works for me and what doesn't. As a result, I have several bags to sell. I'll be putting these on Craigslist, but thought I would offer them up here first. I will add actual shipping costs to the final price. Email me directly for pics and more info. Thanks! Joyce Acorn medium saddlebag, tan, like new condition $65 Detours Toocan, juicy woven, like new condition $40 Arkel Bug, black and red, good used condition $40 Detours Leto handlebar bag, black, good used condition $20 Sackville bar sack, grid grey, like new condition $85 Nitto F-15 BarSackRack for Sackville bar sack, like new condition $40 Sackville SaddleSack small, grid grey, like new condition $70 Sackville fender mud flaps (pair), grid grey, like new condtion $15 The infamous Hupe, like new condition $20 Detours XCountry Cycle panniers (pair) yellow, used condition $60 Detours XCountry Tour panniers (pair) yellow, used condition $70 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Kojaks
Schwalbe rates these as 4 stars for puncture resistance vs 5 for the Supremes and I think 6 for the Marathon Pluses. Would these good commuter tires in this context? Would slime tube work for this application at 70-80 psi? I've read that they are excellent at mtb pressures but fail at road pressures. My commute is increasing from 25 km RT to almost 40. So any insights or advice would be much appreciated. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Kojaks
Schwalbe rates these as 4 stars for puncture resistance vs 5 for the Supremes and I think 6 for the Marathon Pluses. Would these good commuter tires in this context? Would slime tube work for this application at 70-80 psi? I've read that they are excellent at mtb pressures but fail at road pressures. My commute is increasing from 25 km RT to almost 40. So any insights or advice would be much appreciated. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] FS: Berthoud, Nitto, M.A.P.
Bill - I would love the map light mount! Mobile Brian Hanson On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Bill bionn...@gmail.com wrote: for sale: Berthoud decaleur. Horizontal 91. $60 Nitto Technomic Deluxe stem 26.0 clamp. 100 extension. Used, but in excellent condition. $35 M.A.P. light bracket for metal fenders. As seen here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/mapcycles/6055950533/ New, never used. $15 I accept paypal. I will split USPS shipping 50/50. Pictures upon request. Thanks! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.