date:20120515

All sold. Thanks! Part 2 of 2 later this week!

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Rivet review?

2012-05-15 Thread qwerty

Hi Brian,

Sorry I can't help out with a Rivet saddle review, but if one of those
doesn't work out for you, you might consider looking for a B.17 in
maroon.  Somewhat rare, but they do turn up for sale now and then.  I
recently found one on eBay for my recent Hunqa acquisition.  (I also
have a Haulin' Collin rack but it resides on my rSogn).

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzoE2Md

Best,

Mike Gillespie

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Brian Hanson  wrote:
> Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review?
> I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build.  I just took
> it out for the shake-down ride to work today.  It was a smooth ride!  Thumbs
> up so far.  I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to a taller
> bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub.  Luckily I have
> an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right.
>
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m
> Brian
> Seattle, WA
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Re: [RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 17:26 -0700, William wrote:
> Pardon me?  I guess people that prefer metal can buy carbonif they
> stop preferring metal.
> 
> 
> Most of the people that prefer metal are those that prefer metal
> instead of carbon.  There's no third option (bamboo, plastic,
> marzipan).  Some think carbon cranks are ugly and metal ones look
> nice.  Some think carbon cranks are too expensive.  Some people
> believe carbon cranks can't last 30 years and metal ones can.  Some
> think carbon cranks will break.  Some people PREFER METAL.  Now
> there's a Campy option for those that prefer metal, that isn't quite
> so heavy.  That's nice for them.  That's all.

I totally misunderstood what you were saying.



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Re: [RBW] Re: s240 up diablo?

2012-05-15 Thread cyclotourist

This sounds like an all-around great outing. Really nice when all the
pieces fall into place like this!

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:22 PM, Anne Paulson wrote:

> Fabulous trip. I rode from my house in Los Altos to the Union City
> BART, a good part of the ride in the Baylands. Since I was plenty
> early, I had no trouble with bikes not being allowed. Note to other
> riders who take the elevator down when they get to the Walnut Creek
> BART station: you're supposed to run your ticket through the machine
> when you get out. It's not obvious.
>
> The Google directions from the BART to North Gate Road are correct
> (more or less) but difficult to follow. You find yourself on the
> Contra Costa Trail, and then at some point Google helpfully says "Turn
> right." Um, yeah? There were a lot of chances to turn right. But I
> managed to find my way to the bike path by the hospital, which was
> delightful, and then to Walnut and North Gate, and up I went, starting
> around 4:00.
>
> At the junction, there were other riders of course, and all they could
> talk about was the race. And then just after I left the junction to
> continue climbing, as I was stopped to snack or put on a sweater or
> something, three other bike tourists passed me, two of them women. I
> wondered if they were us, but they were another bike touring party. I
> speeded up to try to stay with them, ending up ahead of one of the
> women and behind the other, pulling into the campground at around 6:20
> or so.
>
> I promptly became the laughingstock of the entire campground as I
> dithered about trying to pick a campsite that would have flat spots to
> camp, and also a place for Manny's hammock. Finally I decided to just
> pick one, put up tent and began to cook dinner (what would end up to
> be my first dinner. It was good, but as you'll see, it didn't take.) I
> was just eating my asparagus and cooking my noodles when along came
> Dustin. He didn't like the campsite I had wasted so much time picking,
> and by that time neither did I, so we decided to move to a different
> spot, the very spot we camped the last time I was with a Riv group. I
> ate the rest of my dinner, packed up my tent, noticed that although
> the initial campsite I had picked was pretty crummy it had a
> spectacular view of the sun just going down in a haze of gold, and
> moved to join Dustin.
>
> We had our flashlights on by the time Manny, Tommy and Bill showed up.
> Yay! Time for second dinnner. Dustin cooked us vegetables and some
> delicious sausage. Manny, a prince among men, offered us all
> bacon-wrapped hotdogs. Bacon-wrapped hotdogs! Yum. If it's good, it's
> better with bacon. Or cream. Or both. I shared nothing, but next time
> we go camping I'm cooking pancakes and Nutella for breakfast for all.
>
> There was a gorgeous fire, but I'm still jetlagged from being in Spain
> last week (I took one ride in the other Sierra Nevada) so I just went
> to my tent to get something, and next thing I knew I was waking up and
> it was 2 in the morning or something.
>
> I got up in time to get the last of Bill's coffee and say goodbye to
> him. He asked if he should summit Diablo before he went down to go to
> work. Of course, I said stupidly, forgetting that by saying that, I
> was committing myself to summiting it later. Now that it was light, I
> could see everyone's bike. Dustin's I had already seen,  a handsome
> Atlantis gorgeously kitted with Saddlesack,  front bag and a stylish
> tweed handlebar bag. Manny's loaner Hunqa was a beauty as well, also
> kitted with a shiny new Saddlesack. I could imagine riding that dandy
> loaner, it would be easy to "forget" where Rivendell is, and be, alas,
> unable to return the bike Every time I see a Hunqa I have to remind
> myself that even though I think the gray/red paint job is the most
> beautiful thing going, I have no need for a Hunqa and wouldn't ride
> it.
>
> Quite a bit later the rest of us rode to the top. By that time, I
> realized that if I stayed to watch the race, I'd be facing a 75 minute
> BART ride and then 30 miles riding at rush hour-- and I wasn't at all
> sure I'd be able to avoid the BART rush hour ban, so I decided to just
> head home, passing a stream of happy cyclists going up the other way.
> At least on North Gate, almost everyone was arriving the proper way,
> on bike, though I suppose cars came later.
>
> One mysterious guy was driving from the junction up to the summit with
> a bike on his car. I thought to myself, "What's the bike for, dude?"
> but the more apposite comment would be "What's the car for, dude?"
> Near the bottom, the race officials were spraypainting every pothole,
> a time-consuming job on North Gate Road, which does not appear to have
> been beautifully maintained lately.
>
> I tried to put my ticket in the BART reader in Walnut Creek, but it
> didn't work because I hadn't swiped it yesterday. Oh well. The station
> agent fixed it all up. Next time I'll know better.
>
> The Dumbarton Bridg

[RBW] WTB: your 60cm-ish 700c touring frame

2012-05-15 Thread Scot Brooks

I've decided my Sam is perfect the way it is, which means I'm setting up a 
dedicated camping bike. As long as it takes 700c wheels, canti brakes, and low 
rider front racks, I'm game. Trying to do this on a budget means that a new 
Hunqapillar will have to wait. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

Pardon me?  I guess people that prefer metal can buy carbonif they stop 
preferring metal.

Most of the people that prefer metal are those that prefer metal *instead of
* carbon.  There's no third option (bamboo, plastic, marzipan).  Some think 
carbon cranks are ugly and metal ones look nice.  Some think carbon cranks 
are too expensive.  Some people believe carbon cranks can't last 30 years 
and metal ones can.  Some think carbon cranks will break.  Some people 
PREFER METAL.  Now there's a Campy option for those that prefer metal, that 
isn't quite so heavy.  That's nice for them.  That's all.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:21:50 PM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 14:54 -0700, William wrote: 
> > Also in that article is mention of a hollow metal crankset.  That's 
> > nice for those that prefer a metal crankset, but who don't like that 
> > it's an extra half-pound or more.   
> > 
>
> Well, can't those people buy a carbon one instead? 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: s240 up diablo?

2012-05-15 Thread Anne Paulson

Fabulous trip. I rode from my house in Los Altos to the Union City
BART, a good part of the ride in the Baylands. Since I was plenty
early, I had no trouble with bikes not being allowed. Note to other
riders who take the elevator down when they get to the Walnut Creek
BART station: you're supposed to run your ticket through the machine
when you get out. It's not obvious.

The Google directions from the BART to North Gate Road are correct
(more or less) but difficult to follow. You find yourself on the
Contra Costa Trail, and then at some point Google helpfully says "Turn
right." Um, yeah? There were a lot of chances to turn right. But I
managed to find my way to the bike path by the hospital, which was
delightful, and then to Walnut and North Gate, and up I went, starting
around 4:00.

At the junction, there were other riders of course, and all they could
talk about was the race. And then just after I left the junction to
continue climbing, as I was stopped to snack or put on a sweater or
something, three other bike tourists passed me, two of them women. I
wondered if they were us, but they were another bike touring party. I
speeded up to try to stay with them, ending up ahead of one of the
women and behind the other, pulling into the campground at around 6:20
or so.

I promptly became the laughingstock of the entire campground as I
dithered about trying to pick a campsite that would have flat spots to
camp, and also a place for Manny's hammock. Finally I decided to just
pick one, put up tent and began to cook dinner (what would end up to
be my first dinner. It was good, but as you'll see, it didn't take.) I
was just eating my asparagus and cooking my noodles when along came
Dustin. He didn't like the campsite I had wasted so much time picking,
and by that time neither did I, so we decided to move to a different
spot, the very spot we camped the last time I was with a Riv group. I
ate the rest of my dinner, packed up my tent, noticed that although
the initial campsite I had picked was pretty crummy it had a
spectacular view of the sun just going down in a haze of gold, and
moved to join Dustin.

We had our flashlights on by the time Manny, Tommy and Bill showed up.
Yay! Time for second dinnner. Dustin cooked us vegetables and some
delicious sausage. Manny, a prince among men, offered us all
bacon-wrapped hotdogs. Bacon-wrapped hotdogs! Yum. If it's good, it's
better with bacon. Or cream. Or both. I shared nothing, but next time
we go camping I'm cooking pancakes and Nutella for breakfast for all.

There was a gorgeous fire, but I'm still jetlagged from being in Spain
last week (I took one ride in the other Sierra Nevada) so I just went
to my tent to get something, and next thing I knew I was waking up and
it was 2 in the morning or something.

I got up in time to get the last of Bill's coffee and say goodbye to
him. He asked if he should summit Diablo before he went down to go to
work. Of course, I said stupidly, forgetting that by saying that, I
was committing myself to summiting it later. Now that it was light, I
could see everyone's bike. Dustin's I had already seen,  a handsome
Atlantis gorgeously kitted with Saddlesack,  front bag and a stylish
tweed handlebar bag. Manny's loaner Hunqa was a beauty as well, also
kitted with a shiny new Saddlesack. I could imagine riding that dandy
loaner, it would be easy to "forget" where Rivendell is, and be, alas,
unable to return the bike Every time I see a Hunqa I have to remind
myself that even though I think the gray/red paint job is the most
beautiful thing going, I have no need for a Hunqa and wouldn't ride
it.

Quite a bit later the rest of us rode to the top. By that time, I
realized that if I stayed to watch the race, I'd be facing a 75 minute
BART ride and then 30 miles riding at rush hour-- and I wasn't at all
sure I'd be able to avoid the BART rush hour ban, so I decided to just
head home, passing a stream of happy cyclists going up the other way.
At least on North Gate, almost everyone was arriving the proper way,
on bike, though I suppose cars came later.

One mysterious guy was driving from the junction up to the summit with
a bike on his car. I thought to myself, "What's the bike for, dude?"
but the more apposite comment would be "What's the car for, dude?"
Near the bottom, the race officials were spraypainting every pothole,
a time-consuming job on North Gate Road, which does not appear to have
been beautifully maintained lately.

I tried to put my ticket in the BART reader in Walnut Creek, but it
didn't work because I hadn't swiped it yesterday. Oh well. The station
agent fixed it all up. Next time I'll know better.

The Dumbarton Bridge, never a delightful trip, was particularly
challenging today because of a wicked crosswind. Every time a truck
passed, I'd get buffeted. It would have been frightful for a light
rider (but I am not one) on a light bike (but my loaded Atlantis
definitely doesn't qualify). Once over the bridge, I headed home
through

Re: [RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

2012-05-15 Thread Michael Hechmer

compared to 9 speed; or even for that matter a 7 speed triple.  I moved 
away from 7 speed freewheels because they offered a 12 cog & now an 11, 
which offers the option for a smaller big ring.  A 7 speed triple with 
 13-28 offers closely spaced gears and a decent low gear.  A 9 speed 11-28, 
can offer the same range and spacing as a "racing" triple.

10 & 11 speed systems add cost and reduce durability with not much to offer 
in return.

michael

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:52:28 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 14:42 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote: 
> > Campy has always made wide range triple deraillers.  For many years 
> > the stock offering included three different length cages on the 
> > popular rear deraillers.  What baffles me is that they have, 
> > apparently discontinued their excellent compact front derailler, which 
> > is a great fd for triples.  In fact it outperforms the SR I have on my 
> > tandem.  As for 10 speed cassettes... it's hard to see what advantage 
> > they have for recreational & touring riders. 
>
> Advantage compared to Campagnolo's other standard, 11?  Or do you mean 
> compared to a 9 speed? 
>
> Personally, I'm a great fan of the 9 speed 13-30, which happens to have 
> exactly the same sprockets (in terms of number of teeth, that is) as the 
> 10 speed 12-30, only without the 12T, which has no value for me (unless 
> mated with a 44T chain ring). 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 14:54 -0700, William wrote:
> Also in that article is mention of a hollow metal crankset.  That's
> nice for those that prefer a metal crankset, but who don't like that
> it's an extra half-pound or more.  
> 

Well, can't those people buy a carbon one instead?



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Re: [RBW] Grant & JUST RIDE at Harris Cyclery June 1

2012-05-15 Thread mikel66...@juno.com

my buddy and i plan on attending
mike goldman
warwick,r.i.

The New "Skinny" Fruit
How This Strange 62-Cent African Fruit Is Making Americans Skinny.
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Re: [RBW] Rivet review?

2012-05-15 Thread Toshi Takeuchi

They stink because I need to buy another Rivet ($) to replace another
saddle that now seems too uncomfortable!

My first big ride @ the beginning of June...

Toshi


On 5/15/12, William  wrote:
> On the San Francisco Randonneurs Google Group, there have been several
> posts about the Rivet.  None of them are blog length narratives, but they
> have all been 100% enthusiastically positive.  It is my perception that all
> of the people who posted there on the SFR page went into it agreeing with
> the mission of Rivet, which is splitting the difference between a too-hard
> Brooks and too-soft Selle Anatomica.  It is also my perception that all of
> the people who posted also went into it liking Deb Banks very much
> personally, and so all of them really wanted to love their new saddle.
>  That doesn't prove anything, but it does provide context if you go to that
> group and search the archives for reviews.  I also like Deb Banks very
> much, and will probably buy one of her saddles soon.
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:39:38 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>>
>> Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review?
>>
>> I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build.  I just
>> took
>> it out for the shake-down ride to work today.  It was a smooth ride!
>> Thumbs up so far.  I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to
>>
>> a taller bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub.
>> Luckily I have an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right.
>>
>> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m
>> Brian
>> Seattle, WA
>>
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[RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

Also in that article is mention of a hollow metal crankset.  That's nice 
for those that prefer a metal crankset, but who don't like that it's an 
extra half-pound or more.  

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:40:44 PM UTC-7, Aaron Schmidt wrote:
>
> At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might 
> want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples, 
> (slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30: 
> 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur. 
>
>
> http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range-cranks-cassettes-performance-triple-cranksets/#more-43869
>  
>
> Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising? 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Grant & JUST RIDE at Harris Cyclery June 1

2012-05-15 Thread newenglandbike

P.S. we should go ride the Weston trails maybe.   :D



On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:52:14 PM UTC-4, newenglandbike wrote:
>
> Sweet,  I'll be there. Thanks a lot Elton!
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:20:52 PM UTC-4, Elton Pope-Lance wrote:
>>
>> We're not wanting to miss the party, so we've got Grant Petersen on the 
>> docket for a book signing here at Harris in Friday, June 1, from 5-6pm.  
>> We'll follow the store event with a social pace ride for any and all who 
>> wish to join.  
>> Any bikes are welcome, with extra credit given for steel (and double 
>> extra credit for lugs).
>> Plenty of books will be on hand for sale.
>>
>> Elton Pope-Lance
>> Natick, MA
>>
>>
>>  
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 14:42 -0700, Michael Hechmer wrote:
> Campy has always made wide range triple deraillers.  For many years
> the stock offering included three different length cages on the
> popular rear deraillers.  What baffles me is that they have,
> apparently discontinued their excellent compact front derailler, which
> is a great fd for triples.  In fact it outperforms the SR I have on my
> tandem.  As for 10 speed cassettes... it's hard to see what advantage
> they have for recreational & touring riders.

Advantage compared to Campagnolo's other standard, 11?  Or do you mean
compared to a 9 speed?

Personally, I'm a great fan of the 9 speed 13-30, which happens to have
exactly the same sprockets (in terms of number of teeth, that is) as the
10 speed 12-30, only without the 12T, which has no value for me (unless
mated with a 44T chain ring).



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[RBW] Re: Grant & JUST RIDE at Harris Cyclery June 1

2012-05-15 Thread newenglandbike

Sweet,  I'll be there. Thanks a lot Elton!




On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:20:52 PM UTC-4, Elton Pope-Lance wrote:
>
> We're not wanting to miss the party, so we've got Grant Petersen on the 
> docket for a book signing here at Harris in Friday, June 1, from 5-6pm.  
> We'll follow the store event with a social pace ride for any and all who 
> wish to join.  
> Any bikes are welcome, with extra credit given for steel (and double extra 
> credit for lugs).
> Plenty of books will be on hand for sale.
>
> Elton Pope-Lance
> Natick, MA
>
>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivet review?

On the San Francisco Randonneurs Google Group, there have been several 
posts about the Rivet.  None of them are blog length narratives, but they 
have all been 100% enthusiastically positive.  It is my perception that all 
of the people who posted there on the SFR page went into it agreeing with 
the mission of Rivet, which is splitting the difference between a too-hard 
Brooks and too-soft Selle Anatomica.  It is also my perception that all of 
the people who posted also went into it liking Deb Banks very much 
personally, and so all of them really wanted to love their new saddle. 
 That doesn't prove anything, but it does provide context if you go to that 
group and search the archives for reviews.  I also like Deb Banks very 
much, and will probably buy one of her saddles soon.  

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:39:38 PM UTC-7, stonehog wrote:
>
> Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review?  
> I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build.  I just took 
> it out for the shake-down ride to work today.  It was a smooth ride!  
> Thumbs up so far.  I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to 
> a taller bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub.  
> Luckily I have an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right.  
>
> http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m
> Brian 
> Seattle, WA
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[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe banana bag; Nitto front rack; and more

2012-05-15 Thread Jim M.

Update: Mini-front, Avids, Dirt Drop, and Campy are gone. 

thanks
jim

On Sunday, May 13, 2012 4:22:00 PM UTC-7, Jim M. wrote:
>
> Nigel Smythe banana bag, tan canvas; great condition with a few grease 
> smudges:  $60 shipped 
>
> Nitto mini-front rack: $85 shipped 
>
> Fizik Nisene saddle (slightly used; I only rode it once to know it 
> wasn't for me): $25 shipped 
>
> Salsa Cross Top Levers, black, never mounted: $25 shipped (can fit 26.0 or 
> 31.8) 
>
> Avid Shorty 6, silver, new in box: $60 shipped for front and rear 
> (normally $50 for one wheels worth) 
>
> Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, 80mm, 26.0 clamp, has a hole drilled in it that 
> acted as a brake hanger: $30 shipped 
>
> Campy Veloce road triple, 175mm, 130/74 BCD: $65 shipped 
>
> Photos here: https://picasaweb.google.com/110622815911611774447/May132012 
>
>
> jim mather 
> walnut creek ca 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn, Brand V, Brooks bags

Acorn is sold. Brand V is pending.
 
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[RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

2012-05-15 Thread Michael Hechmer

Campy has always made wide range triple deraillers.  For many years the 
stock offering included three different length cages on the popular rear 
deraillers.  What baffles me is that they have, apparently discontinued 
their excellent compact front derailler, which is a great fd for triples. 
 In fact it outperforms the SR I have on my tandem.  As for 10 speed 
cassettes... it's hard to see what advantage they have for recreational & 
touring riders.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:40:44 PM UTC-4, Aaron Schmidt wrote:
>
> At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might 
> want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples, 
> (slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30: 
> 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur. 
>
>
> http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range-cranks-cassettes-performance-triple-cranksets/#more-43869
>  
>
> Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising? 
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Rivet review?

2012-05-15 Thread Brian Hanson

Has anyone been able to ride a new Rivet saddle long enough for a review?
I'm thinking about the mahogany Pearl for the new Hunqa build.  I just took
it out for the shake-down ride to work today.  It was a smooth ride!
Thumbs up so far.  I am realizing the small saddlebag will have to move to
a taller bike with more clearance (59cm AHH) as I got some tire rub.
Luckily I have an XS Keven's bag that will do it up right.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjzosf8m
Brian
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

2012-05-15 Thread Aaron Schmidt

Who do you think Campagnolo's demographic is?



On May 15, 1:52 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> Not at all given the demographic.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 13:40 -0700, Aaron Schmidt wrote:
> > > At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might
> > > want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples,
> > > (slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30:
> > > 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur.
>
> >http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range...
>
> > > Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising?
>
> > Shocking, really.  Last I heard they were switching all the groups to 11
> > speed.
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[RBW] Grant & JUST RIDE at Harris Cyclery June 1

2012-05-15 Thread Elton Pope-Lance

We're not wanting to miss the party, so we've got Grant Petersen on the docket 
for a book signing here at Harris in Friday, June 1, from 5-6pm.  
We'll follow the store event with a social pace ride for any and all who wish 
to join.  
Any bikes are welcome, with extra credit given for steel (and double extra 
credit for lugs).
Plenty of books will be on hand for sale.

Elton Pope-Lance
Natick, MA



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[RBW] Re: New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

2012-05-15 Thread dougP

Looks like the old racing triple.  The 30t biggest cog at least
affords a 1:1 low gear, sorta like using a cogset with a 34t with a
compact double.  Campy's prices alone put them in a market by
themselves.

dougP

On May 15, 1:52 pm, robert zeidler  wrote:
> Not at all given the demographic.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 15, 2012, Steve Palincsar wrote:
> > On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 13:40 -0700, Aaron Schmidt wrote:
> > > At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might
> > > want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples,
> > > (slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30:
> > > 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur.
>
> >http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range...
>
> > > Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising?
>
> > Shocking, really.  Last I heard they were switching all the groups to 11
> > speed.
>
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Re: [RBW] New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

2012-05-15 Thread robert zeidler

Not at all given the demographic.

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012, Steve Palincsar wrote:

> On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 13:40 -0700, Aaron Schmidt wrote:
> > At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might
> > want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples,
> > (slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30:
> > 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur.
> >
> >
> http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range-cranks-cassettes-performance-triple-cranksets/#more-43869
> >
> > Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising?
>
> Shocking, really.  Last I heard they were switching all the groups to 11
> speed.
>
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Re: [RBW] New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

On Tue, 2012-05-15 at 13:40 -0700, Aaron Schmidt wrote:
> At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might
> want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples,
> (slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30:
> 12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur.
> 
> http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range-cranks-cassettes-performance-triple-cranksets/#more-43869
> 
> Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising?

Shocking, really.  Last I heard they were switching all the groups to 11
speed.



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Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help

The control tech skewers have a ti skewer part and aluminum ends.  I never 
had to tighten too hard.  

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:18:26 PM UTC-7, joe b. wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM, William  wrote: 
> > On my Davidson road bike, with chromed dropouts, I couldn't stop 
> slipping 
> > with Mavic or Dura Ace internal cam skewers.  Everything on the bike was 
> > brand new.  I replaced them with Control Tech Ti skewers (which I was 
> > willing to do also trying to get a lugged steel bike under 18lb).  I 
> never 
> > had a single slip with those.  That was 1992. 
>
> That makes some sense, titanium being harder (I think) than steel. The 
> ones I've used have had aluminum or steel faces. I'll file this trick 
> away for future use! 
>
> Best, 
> joe broach 
> portland, or 
>

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[RBW] New triples and wider gearing from Campagnolo

2012-05-15 Thread Aaron Schmidt

At the risk of inciting a religious war, I figured some folks might
want to know that Campagnolo is coming out with some updated triples,
(slightly) wider 10 speed cassette (12-30:
12-13-14-15-17-19-21-24-27-30), and a long cage derailleur.

http://www.bikerumor.com/2012/05/15/campagnolo-intros-5236-wide-range-cranks-cassettes-performance-triple-cranksets/#more-43869

Does anyone else find this slightly sensible and therefore surprising?




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[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn, Brand V, Brooks bags

Brooks bag is sold. Other 2 are pending.
 
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Acorn, Brand V, Brooks bags



Wow. Uh, feel free to express interest... I'm keeping a queue until things 
are final.

But as of now all 3 bags have buyers pending.

Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean 

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Re: [RBW] Re: I really do love my dog but...

2012-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE

My dog hasn't chewed any leather, but he will and does steal my
cycling socks (I know, I know -- Shooz Rooz and all, but I not only
use special cycling pedals and shoes, I use special cycling socks -- I
just don't like non-retention pedaling) so that I have to keep them
close up in my closet.

Horse riding: now that is a sport that is far, far more expensive than
cycling, no?

On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:27 PM, John Price  wrote:
> Can relate.   A few Christmases ago I bought my wife some expensive
> riding breeches (horseback riding that is).  They were custom fit, had
> a nice leather seat...   Anyway, our dear Madonna (Afghan hound too
> clever for her own good), opened the sliding closet door, pulled them
> down from a hanger, dragged them out of the room and proceeded to rip
> up and eat the leather off of them.   My wife got maybe two rides out
> of them before this happened.   Madonna, by the way, thought she had a
> special prize and was quite pleased with herself.
>
> Darn "kids" anyway !
>
> On May 14, 11:04 am, Liesl  wrote:
>> ...she ate my wool devolds while I was in the shower!  And it's not
>> the first time!  Okay, there, I vented.  -liesl
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Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help

2012-05-15 Thread PATRICK MOORE

Joe's experience with allen skewers is mine, tho' mine all have
aluminum contact surfaces. I once snapped the steel skewer on one
trying to clamp a fixed wheel in chromed, horizontal dropouts.

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Joe Broach  wrote:
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, William  wrote:
>
>>  If you asked for my wild guess, I'd try those 'slow-release' levers.  The
>> ones you need an allen wrench to tighten.  On chrome rear dropouts in the
>> past, that's been helpful for me.  I think they generate substantially more
>> clampforce.
>
> That's opposite my experience, but I'd be interested to hear the
> "slow-release" skewers you had success with. I'm not able to get near
> the clamping force out of those 5mm bolts that I get from an internal
> cam QR.
>
> I think it almost has to be the axle at this point. Many have run QRs
> with horizontal drops without issue. I did with a 22/28 low gear for
> thousands of slip-free miles, and that using a Deore LX skewer with
> aluminum faces.
>
> Frustrating, to be sure, but I wouldn't be distracted by things other
> than that axle.
>
> Best,
> joe broach
> portland, or
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Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help

2012-05-15 Thread Joe Broach

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 12:13 PM, William  wrote:
> On my Davidson road bike, with chromed dropouts, I couldn't stop slipping
> with Mavic or Dura Ace internal cam skewers.  Everything on the bike was
> brand new.  I replaced them with Control Tech Ti skewers (which I was
> willing to do also trying to get a lugged steel bike under 18lb).  I never
> had a single slip with those.  That was 1992.

That makes some sense, titanium being harder (I think) than steel. The
ones I've used have had aluminum or steel faces. I'll file this trick
away for future use!

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

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Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help

On my Davidson road bike, with chromed dropouts, I couldn't stop slipping 
with Mavic or Dura Ace internal cam skewers.  Everything on the bike was 
brand new.  I replaced them with Control Tech Ti skewers (which I was 
willing to do also trying to get a lugged steel bike under 18lb).  I never 
had a single slip with those.  That was 1992.   

On Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:52:46 AM UTC-7, joe b. wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, William  wrote: 
>
> >  If you asked for my wild guess, I'd try those 'slow-release' levers. 
>  The 
> > ones you need an allen wrench to tighten.  On chrome rear dropouts in 
> the 
> > past, that's been helpful for me.  I think they generate substantially 
> more 
> > clampforce. 
>
> That's opposite my experience, but I'd be interested to hear the 
> "slow-release" skewers you had success with. I'm not able to get near 
> the clamping force out of those 5mm bolts that I get from an internal 
> cam QR. 
>
> I think it almost has to be the axle at this point. Many have run QRs 
> with horizontal drops without issue. I did with a 22/28 low gear for 
> thousands of slip-free miles, and that using a Deore LX skewer with 
> aluminum faces. 
>
> Frustrating, to be sure, but I wouldn't be distracted by things other 
> than that axle. 
>
> Best, 
> joe broach 
> portland, or 
>

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[RBW] FS: Acorn, Brand V, Brooks bags

Hi folks! Some bags and stuff for sale. All new when I bought 'em. I'm not
terribly efficient at figuring out what I prefer. And now I'm cleaning and
organizing. This is the result.

This is part one. A few other things to come in a few days.

All prices include shipping to the contiguous US. I think these prices are
pretty attractive. I submit my judgment to the market for
confirmation/denial.

Brooks D-shaped Bag

*
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/bicycle%20cycling/Brooks%20D-shaped%20Bag?h=a8effb
*

- brown leather

- somewhat scuffed on the outside

- internal part is in very good condition

- not-so-gently used

$35

Brand V Seat Bag

*
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/bicycle%20cycling/Brand%20V%20Seat%20Bag?h=a8effb
*

- used very little

$45

Acorn Large Saddlebag

*
http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/7568778/1/bicycle%20cycling/Acorn%20Large%20Saddlebag?h=a8effb
*

- tan canvas, non-waxed

- slight customization (at my request... by Acorn, not me!)... typically
this style of bag had a slotted patch of leather near the bottom of the
back face for strapping to the seat post; on this bag that leather "patch"
is a "strip" that extends horizontally across much of the width of the bag.
The intent (and it works!) was that this strip would supply a little
stiffening and protection of the canvas if you hang the bag off the side of
a rack like a pannier. The leather is slotted as normal... it's just longer
than a patch.

- older style... 2009, IIRC... leather straps on the side pockets, not
turnbuckles... no "compartment" leading to the seatpost like the current
style

- used several times (just not since stocking up on Sackvilles!)...
light-to-moderate wear, no damage

$80

I have once again embraced PayPal. That is my preferred payment method.

Please reply off-list. First interested, first served.

Yours,

Thomas Lynn Skean

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Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help

2012-05-15 Thread Joe Broach

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 10:43 AM, William  wrote:

>  If you asked for my wild guess, I'd try those 'slow-release' levers.  The
> ones you need an allen wrench to tighten.  On chrome rear dropouts in the
> past, that's been helpful for me.  I think they generate substantially more
> clampforce.

That's opposite my experience, but I'd be interested to hear the
"slow-release" skewers you had success with. I'm not able to get near
the clamping force out of those 5mm bolts that I get from an internal
cam QR.

I think it almost has to be the axle at this point. Many have run QRs
with horizontal drops without issue. I did with a 22/28 low gear for
thousands of slip-free miles, and that using a Deore LX skewer with
aluminum faces.

Frustrating, to be sure, but I wouldn't be distracted by things other
than that axle.

Best,
joe broach
portland, or

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Re: [RBW] Re: s240 up diablo?

Dustin did in fact get there, and he got there before Manny, Tommy, and me. 
 Anne was also there, and that made 5.  I was the only one to leave early, 
and I'm back in the office now.  It was a delightful S24O.  

I BARTed from South Hayward to Macarthur, just in time to see "no bikes" on 
the trains heading to Walnut Creek.  I texted Manny "am I hosed?".  Manny 
replied "maybe dude".  I didn't get on the first train, but when I saw 
three bikes get off the next one, I decided to ignore the 'no bikes' 
flashing and take my chances.  I think it changes at 5PM, and it was only a 
few minutes after 5, so I concluded that my chances were good to not have 
to contend with 'Johnny Law'.  The train wasn't even crowded, and that got 
me out to Walnut Creek.

I met up with Manny and Tommy who were waiting there.  Manny was on his 
brother's bike, an old Raleigh beater, made famous because it has the 
epicly crumpled Honjo fender on it.  We started off right away through the 
busy streets of Walnut Creek, when "POP" Manny's rear tire blew.  It was an 
ancient Ruffy Tuffy, nowhere near used up in treadlife, but the sidewall 
was long gone.  Manny started taking it apart, but I had made up my mind 
that the tire was a total lost cause.  Manny said "Yeah, my brother said he 
didn't trust that tire anymore".  #facepalm#.  Anyway, I looked at our 
location (Ygnacio and N Broadway) and immediately called Riv HQ.  It was 
5:45, well after closing, but of *course* someone answered, and of *course*it 
was Grant, and of 
*course *he said come right over.  I rode ahead the 2.5 blocks while Manny 
and Tommy walked.  Grant and I talked a little about what he needed, and 
one of the solutions that Grant thought up was "Manny can take his new 
bike".  I got to see it.  It's an orange and cream 650B Hillborne.  It's 
adorable.  I resisted the urge to snap a photo of it.  Manny hadn't seen it 
(and still hasn't) so I thought that would be unfair of me.  

Anyhow, Grant pulled out a tire, and Manny went to fixing it.  Perhaps 
foolishly, we went Jack Brown, and sure enough it rubbed on that tattered 
fender.  Grant said "forget it, let's put you on a bike".  He grabbed the 
48 Hunqapillar, a Saddlesack Large and put us to work.  I had a couple 
extra zipties so I got the Saddlesack down pretty quickly.  Manny started 
stuffing his stuff from the porteur rack on his brothers bike into the 
Saddlesack.  Grant reappeared with a Nitto Mini front and a basket, and we 
had that on in another few minutes (beeswaxed threads and all).  Grant 
enjoyed making a small wrench joke, he handed me a 10mm box wrench for the 
centerbolt of the Nitto Mini and said "Here's a 10mm Allen wrench".  The *
brand* of the wrench is Allen.  Anyway

We were totally loaded up.  Manny was pretty mortified with guilt that he 
put Grant out, but I was elated that we were able to parlay some good karma 
back into a really useful upgrade.  More than anything I was grateful that 
Manny's tire failed at the absolute perfect location.  On the decent of 
Diablo this afternoon could have been substantially less optimal.  Starting 
towards and up Diablo about an hour late, we were pretty sure it would be 
dusk-to-dark when we arrived.  It was a great ride up the mountain, road 
essentially all to ourselves.  We saw a pair of EPIC wild turkeys showing 
off their tail feathers to the same hen.  There was a moronic family of 
quails that ran away from us by running up the center of the road in a very 
slight serpentine.  

We arrived in camp at about 8, which was pretty good time considering how 
late we started.  Dustin and Anne were there.  We got out several stoves 
and feasted on veggies and sausages from Dustin, and bacon wrapped hotdogs 
from Manny.  My pitiful supplies went unopened, but I was happy to help 
cook and clean.  We made a pretty respectable campfire and hit the hay at 
about 11.  Manny rocked the hammock.  

I got up around 6 and packed up.  Manny and Anne got up and we had 
coffee/tea/oatmeal before I headed off to work.  The rest of them are 
presumably watching the race.  I did go ahead and summit first.  It was a 
lovely morning.  

I'll post some pictures later this afternoon.  

Bill

On Monday, May 14, 2012 2:02:33 PM UTC-7, EastBayGuy wrote:
>
> Not getting the Early start I had anticipated. See everyone at the Top.
>
> Dustin G
>
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Betty F. on Bike-to-Work Day

2012-05-15 Thread Marc Schwartz

I think I'll give a skirt a try. How about the rest of you guys?

Marc

From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] on 
behalf of Claude LaVallee [claudelaval...@me.com]
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 1:39 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch
Subject: [RBW] Re: Betty F. on Bike-to-Work Day

I notice a difference when I wear a skirt; both drivers and
pedestrians smile and are generally nicer. Also, since I've put a
front basket on my bike, I've actually had drivers give me the right-
of-way. Next, maybe streamers?!...
Claude in Bethesda, MD

On May 10, 9:21 pm, Peter Pesce  wrote:
> I think anything that "humanizes" you helps. There have been a number of 
> observations ( not sure they are actual "studies") that one of the 
> contributing elements to driver-on-driver hostility is the anonymity of the 
> interaction.  As a cyclist, anything that undermines a driver from 
> anonymizing you by wrapping you in a convenient stereotype will encourage 
> them to treat you like a person. Helps a lot if the cyclist isn't acting like 
> a jerk, too!
>
> Pete in CT
> (I dress like a bicycle cop. Works like a charm!)

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[RBW] Re: 1up bike rack for sale

2012-05-15 Thread Oktay Demirdal

Do you still have this bike rack? If yes, please email me seperately at 
oktay.demirdal at gmail dot com. Thank you! OD
On Monday, February 6, 2012 3:35:30 PM UTC-6, Lola wrote:
>
> Having been really successful in selling our two Rambouillets  through 
> this group,  ( thanks Jason and Dan!) we need to sell our bike carrier. 
> This is the fastest hitch mounting and bike loading rack ever and works 
> like a dream.  We searched for a long time to find a rack as good as this 
> one.This rack is for two bikes, but of course you can carry one easily. It 
> folds up well and stores easily in the trunk or a cupboard or shelf.
> We live in the SF Bay Area and would rather not ship it.
> Have a look at the webpage as it really describes it well. We didn't get 
> to use it much unfortunately, so it is pristine. $250
>
> www.1upusa.com/Big Quik-Rack.htm
>

On Monday, February 6, 2012 3:35:30 PM UTC-6, Lola wrote:
>
> Having been really successful in selling our two Rambouillets  through 
> this group,  ( thanks Jason and Dan!) we need to sell our bike carrier. 
> This is the fastest hitch mounting and bike loading rack ever and works 
> like a dream.  We searched for a long time to find a rack as good as this 
> one.This rack is for two bikes, but of course you can carry one easily. It 
> folds up well and stores easily in the trunk or a cupboard or shelf.
> We live in the SF Bay Area and would rather not ship it.
> Have a look at the webpage as it really describes it well. We didn't get 
> to use it much unfortunately, so it is pristine. $250
>
> www.1upusa.com/Big Quik-Rack.htm
>

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[RBW] Wanted: Sugino 46T and 34T chainrings

2012-05-15 Thread Erik

I need some Sugino chainrings, 46 teeth and 34 teeth, 110mm bolt pattern. I 
would love to find  some NOS ones, the older ones with the stamped name, not 
laser etched as they come now. Really clean used condition is fine also. 

Thanks, Erik in Portland

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nigel Smythe banana bag; Nitto front rack; and more

2012-05-15 Thread Jacob S.

Hey,
Is the mini rack spoken for?
Cheers,
Jacob

On May 13, 4:22 pm, Jim Mather  wrote:
> Nigel Smythe banana bag, tan canvas; great condition with a few grease
> smudges:  $60 shipped
>
> Nitto mini-front rack: $85 shipped
>
> Fizik Nisene saddle (slightly used; I only rode it once to know it
> wasn't for me): $25 shipped
>
> Salsa Cross Top Levers, black, never mounted: $25 shipped (can fit 26.0 or 
> 31.8)
>
> Avid Shorty 6, silver, new in box: $60 shipped for front and rear
> (normally $50 for one wheels worth)
>
> Nitto Dirt Drop Stem, 80mm, 26.0 clamp, has a hole drilled in it that
> acted as a brake hanger: $30 shipped
>
> Campy Veloce road triple, 175mm, 130/74 BCD: $65 shipped
>
> Photos here:https://picasaweb.google.com/110622815911611774447/May132012
>
> jim mather
> walnut creek ca

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[RBW] Re: I really do love my dog but...

2012-05-15 Thread John Price

Can relate.   A few Christmases ago I bought my wife some expensive
riding breeches (horseback riding that is).  They were custom fit, had
a nice leather seat...   Anyway, our dear Madonna (Afghan hound too
clever for her own good), opened the sliding closet door, pulled them
down from a hanger, dragged them out of the room and proceeded to rip
up and eat the leather off of them.   My wife got maybe two rides out
of them before this happened.   Madonna, by the way, thought she had a
special prize and was quite pleased with herself.

Darn "kids" anyway !

On May 14, 11:04 am, Liesl  wrote:
> ...she ate my wool devolds while I was in the shower!  And it's not
> the first time!  Okay, there, I vented.  -liesl

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[RBW] Re: 1up bike rack for sale

2012-05-15 Thread Oktay Demirdal


On Monday, February 6, 2012 3:35:30 PM UTC-6, Lola wrote:
>
> Having been really successful in selling our two Rambouillets  through 
> this group,  ( thanks Jason and Dan!) we need to sell our bike carrier. 
> This is the fastest hitch mounting and bike loading rack ever and works 
> like a dream.  We searched for a long time to find a rack as good as this 
> one.This rack is for two bikes, but of course you can carry one easily. It 
> folds up well and stores easily in the trunk or a cupboard or shelf.
> We live in the SF Bay Area and would rather not ship it.
> Have a look at the webpage as it really describes it well. We didn't get 
> to use it much unfortunately, so it is pristine. $250
>
> www.1upusa.com/Big Quik-Rack.htm
>

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[RBW] WTB: Bombadil and 650B wheels

2012-05-15 Thread Z

Probably a 52, but would consider a 56 cm as well.  My pbh is 85 cm.
Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Slipping QR in horizontal drop out help

OK, well that was a red-herring.  You are right that they taper in a 
little, but the thing I'm talking about tapers in A LOT and only on the 
left side.  This 7400 rear hub kind of shows it:  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dura-Ace-Rear-Tubular-7400-Hub-Nisi-Countache-Rim-8-9-Speed-Excellent-Condition-/120914827269?pt=Cycling_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1c2715d805#ht_500wt_1361
 

Especially in the second photo.  Yours look like the right part on both 
sides.  The knurls do look kind of flattened out, but not in a way where 
I'd say "Yes, that wheel will slip, because of those knurls".  

Resume your debugging process.  Anything else from my would be a wild 
guess.  If you asked for my wild guess, I'd try those 'slow-release' 
levers.  The ones you need an allen wrench to tighten.  On chrome rear 
dropouts in the past, that's been helpful for me.  I think they generate 
substantially more clampforce.   

On Monday, May 14, 2012 5:31:03 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Your wish is my command:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/
>
> Alligators and Pacman... arrrgh, flashback to the 80's!!!
>
> On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 2:36 PM, William  wrote:
>
>> Both are bevelled?  That's just weird or I'm losing it.  Can you 
>> photograph it for me?  
>>
>> And the alligator mouth wants to eat the bigger number, so you are 
>> looking for a >30yo mechanic, not a <30yo mechanic.  :)
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 13, 2012 11:19:57 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> William, thanks! VERY interesting... kind of a cool feature on Shimao's 
>>> part. They are indeed old DA hubs from the 90's. 7700 series to be exact. I 
>>> converted 
>>> them to 135mm four 
>>> years ago. I just checked and 
>>> *both *locknuts are beveled on the rear, but neither of the front ones 
>>> are. 
>>>
>>> So, so, so, so... I'm gonna' see if I can find a non-beveled one I may 
>>> have lying around or swap one out from elsewhere and give that a try! 
>>>
>>> I'll keep looking for the elusive <30 y.o. mechanic. Wish me luck with 
>>> that one!
>>>
>>> GREAT advice in this continuing saga!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:28 PM, William  wrote:
>>>
 There is no way whatsoever for dish to have anything to do with this 
 problem.  It does no harm to have dish checked if you think it might not 
 be 
 right, but dish never caused a hub to slip in the dropouts.

 The reason the first generation of 130mm spaced dura ace hubs had a 
 beveled locknut was to aid in wedging your 126mm frameset open to take the 
 thing.  That beveled locknut was on the left side, though, and we're 
 talking about dura ace cassette hubs from the early 1990s.  If you swapped 
 parts around when you converted this dura ace rear hub to 135mm, then you 
 actually might have solved your own problem.  Specifically if you moved 
 the 
 left side locknut on an early 90's dura ace hub to the driveside, then 
 that 
 very well might be the cause of your slippage.  Have that specifically 
 looked at, preferably by a mechanic older than 30.  

 On Sunday, May 13, 2012 8:57:55 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Jeremy et al, I finally got around to changing the wheelset out to a 
> Phil/Bontrager 
> heavy duty 
> wheelsetI
>  have. Don't use it very much, so it wasn't the first thing I thought of. 
> Thanks for the suggestions to try that approach!
>
> Anyway, Phil w/ the same Mavic skewers led to zero slippage. I rode 
> the same route (although a bit slower due to a headache) as last week. I 
> purposely left the skewer a bit looser than I was using it on the other 
> wheelset (Dura Ace converted to 135 spacing). Not a problem at all!
>
> Soo, some combination of the DA wheelset with the bike is leading 
> to wheel slippage. I'm gong to get the dish checked out as suggested, 
> maybe 
> that is it? I noticed the DA clamping surface isn't fully flat. The edges 
> are beveled so there's not as much contact (why?). There's maybe only 
> 50-75% the contact surface that the Phil hubs have. Possibly part of the 
> problem. Buut, I have the same hubs on my other Riv w/ horizontal 
> drop 
> outs (DA skewers) and those never slip.
>
> Side note: This problem has been progressive. The DA wheelset is 
> probably three or four years old. No problems with my old wheelset, and 
> problems with the DA one seems to have come on slowly. An occasional need 
> to recenter here or there, but not several times during a ride like it is 
> now.
>
> So I'm currently back in love with my bike, but want all my wheels to 
> work. Things are getting curioser and curioser...
>
> Thanks again for the info and input on this, I'm really trying to 
> figure it

[RBW] Re: Group response - Stolen Rivendell Posted on Ebay