[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Yes I did, but alas, no photo. Marc On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 2:03:23 PM UTC-5, Amit Singh wrote: Got a photo of your Riv at the poll? Send a link or post the photo! :) I'll be riding to go vote this evening after work and will send a photo then. Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/9KtRrSlT-9UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
well, I did bicycle 30 miles on Yom Kippur. and the Civil Rights Act was written by The power broker of the southern Democrats, LBJ, and couldn't have been pushed through by anyone else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bWbY9X4Zt1gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I was finishing high school and entering college during the years that the pivotal struggles for civil rights were occurring. I recently read Taylor Branch's Pillar of Fire. The book is encyclopedic in scope as the author depicts that struggle. For me, 'Pillar of Fire' shifted my understanding of the struggle for civil rights. The politicians, including LBJ, were driven to pass the legislation due to the heroic efforts of the many people who put life and limb on the line in pursuing rights that today we take for granted. I learned that the Civil Rights Act was accomplished through the bravery and sacrifice of many unsung dedicated citizens. The politicians followed, rather than lead that struggle. -JimD On Nov 8, 2012, at 5:07 AM, Ron Mc wrote: well, I did bicycle 30 miles on Yom Kippur. and the Civil Rights Act was written by The power broker of the southern Democrats, LBJ, and couldn't have been pushed through by anyone else. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/bWbY9X4Zt1gJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I rode my bicycle to the polls, as well, but the only reason I posted on this thread was because of the irrational opinions and fears I saw voiced about those who may have voted differently. As long as this great disparity remains, the next four years will be four more years of gridlock. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DT7ib4_waFYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Wood
Me too. I've always wanted to explore that area. On Nov 7, 9:58 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-11-07 at 18:52 -0800, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Yes, back in the 70s they were planning to build the (ill-fated) Tocks Dam and create a massive reservoir/recreational area. It thankfully never happened, and in the mean time the Dept of the Interior had bought up all the cabins/houses within the reservoir's planned 'footprint', forcing people to move from the area. To this day it's still very remote (and virtually abandoned) thanks to the displacement of all those people as a result of the Tocks Dam project. On the Jersey side is Buttermilk Falls, a beautiful cascade in the woods, that sits on one of the dirt roads in the Water Gap Recreational Area. I will begin planning this... perhaps for April? Sounds good to me! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute route so I just stopped in on the way to work. I was not the first person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded. There's no shortage of irrational opinions, at the extremes of both sides. My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus builders to move us forward and soon. Absolutism has no place in a democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every time. Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live with are the very definition of politic. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Steven, I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean. Absolutism has a place in our society. Let me give you some examples: I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the ability to gain the tax and probate advantages they can get through marriage regardless of their race, gender, religious beliefs or sexual orientation. I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in our society is a bigot and should be shunned. I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their own bodies. I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own bodies is Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished as such. Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm being irrational, provided you can present logic as such. -sv On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute route so I just stopped in on the way to work. I was not the first person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded. There's no shortage of irrational opinions, at the extremes of both sides. My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus builders to move us forward and soon. Absolutism has no place in a democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every time. Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live with are the very definition of politic. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I agree with most everything you say, Seth. I was just trying to be...diplomatic. B-) Steve On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Steven, I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean. Absolutism has a place in our society. Let me give you some examples: I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the ability to gain the tax and probate advantages they can get through marriage regardless of their race, gender, religious beliefs or sexual orientation. I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in our society is a bigot and should be shunned. I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their own bodies. I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own bodies is Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished as such. Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm being irrational, provided you can present logic as such. -sv On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute route so I just stopped in on the way to work. I was not the first person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded. There's no shortage of irrational opinions, at the extremes of both sides. My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus builders to move us forward and soon. Absolutism has no place in a democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every time. Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live with are the very definition of politic. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I voted for the President, but I'm planning to reach across the aisle and personally invite Mitt Romney to the 2013 Midwest Riv/Country Bike Rally. The rest of you should come, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UQqg6Y0aPvIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
And when, exactly, will that be, Jim? My Summer 2013 calendar is rapidly filling up. ;-) -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 11:12 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today? I voted for the President, but I'm planning to reach across the aisle and personally invite Mitt Romney to the 2013 Midwest Riv/Country Bike Rally. The rest of you should come, too. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/UQqg6Y0aPvIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW garage sale
So close and yet so far...I'll in the Bay area, (SF) but will not have time to stop in. Probably a good thing, but Damn! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Cke4rjg3XCMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Sorry, that was a bit glib. I feel a little hesitant to continue this thread in a political direction. The point I hope to make is that if there are some individuals who believe absolutely that A is more important than B, and some other individuals who believe just as fervently that B is more important than A, then it is the responsibility of those elected by all of us to reach a consensus that both extremes will find more or less equally unsatisfactory, and that everyone that falls in between the two extremes of the A/B question can live with. Speaking only in the most general terms of course. I feel strongly about some of issues you mention, and less strongly about others. I also have biases and opinions about things you didn't mention, but that are also very much points of contention these days. But I'll keep all that to myself due to the off-topical nature of this discussion. Steve On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with most everything you say, Seth. I was just trying to be...diplomatic. B-) Steve On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: Steven, I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean. Absolutism has a place in our society. Let me give you some examples: I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the ability to gain the tax and probate advantages they can get through marriage regardless of their race, gender, religious beliefs or sexual orientation. I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in our society is a bigot and should be shunned. I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their own bodies. I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own bodies is Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished as such. Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm being irrational, provided you can present logic as such. -sv On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com wrote: My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute route so I just stopped in on the way to work. I was not the first person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded. There's no shortage of irrational opinions, at the extremes of both sides. My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus builders to move us forward and soon. Absolutism has no place in a democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every time. Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live with are the very definition of politic. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Midwest Riv and Country Bike Rally 2013
Mark it: May 31 - June 3, somewhere TBD in Minnesota, Wisconsin, and/or Michigan (suggestions?). There will be camping and high adventure on the backroads. Don't commit now, but keep it on the radar. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/d8zXcSnnAtUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times
I contemplated a Tucson trip for this winter, but Maynard's negative impressions swayed me in another direction. Now that I've heard a more positive perspective, Tucson is back on my mind. Also, I have no fear of death, which helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/11yER3DclnUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
regarding rationality. All the issues I've seen listed here (other than taxes) are state issues and not federal issues, so to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, I don't think voting for the President means what you think it means. Jim, I'm sure Sen. Romney has already spent a couple of years on a bike - he's fit right in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BHAWzKu0l3UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times
I rode through Clear Lake this year and had numerous people shout indecipherable babble out the window, presumably yelling at me to get my bike off the road or some other drivel. The closest I came to a physical threat was when someone threw a half eaten sandwich at me (other riders have had beer bottles thrown at them). Luckily no life-threating aggression with their motor vehicles. Toshi On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Joe yeah, that happened to me in Clear Lake a few years ago, too Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Ron, I think you need to study your poli-sci more. I'm pretty sure equal protection clause is where this sits and that's in the 14th ammendment. Also Romney was a governor, not a senator. -sv On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:10 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: regarding rationality. All the issues I've seen listed here (other than taxes) are state issues and not federal issues, so to paraphrase Inigo Montoya, I don't think voting for the President means what you think it means. Jim, I'm sure Sen. Romney has already spent a couple of years on a bike - he's fit right in. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BHAWzKu0l3UJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
hi seth, know both, just typing fast between work breaks. but still state issues, nor does the president have control over the 14th amendment. There is no question the republicans wrote a stupid platform that cost them the election, but don't think that people who voted for Romney are bigots. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pHXsHZ3ZofYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Shifters for Albatross bars?
If you are expecting snow in your winter, you might consider derailleur system. On rare occasion they do need a little nudge because frozen in place and you do have to keep an eye on the drive train, but you also need those low ratios if getting bogged down in the white stuff. If your winter is mostly rain, single speed would be great. I have Suntour XC hubs with 6 speed freewheel and it works great for commuting (there's a foot of snow outside my window as I write this). No front derailleur, but two rings so I can manual shift. If I didn't already have the parts and was buying new, I'd just go with a cassette hub. Gives more options with gearing. On Sunday, October 28, 2012 7:38:29 PM UTC-6, Mike wrote: On Oct 28, 5:55 pm, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: I used Silver BES on Albas. Very convenient, but a little crowded when making sharp turns or dismounting. Albas have much sweepback, and BES exacerbates this. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. Good point Joe. I have a feeling I'll just go with the thumbshifters as they're easier to set-up. Garth, although I haven't tried the BE brake levers, I don't mind using the mtb levers. Now I need to figure out which wheel I'm gonna use--9spd XT wheel or 6spd VO FW. Although, I'm really tempted to go SS for the winter... --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/Hm_ZueT-8aMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Hey lost track of this conversation at work today. I hope that Ron does not think that I assume everyone who voted for Romney is a bigot or racist. Everyone who voted for Romney voted for the wrong guy, in my opinion but I am sure they had thier own reasons and I would not assume any blanket reason. Looking back at the comments I cant see anyone who wants to force thier opinion on anyone else or make anyone else believe something they dont. I dont feel we need someone on here defending us from anyone elses comments though, seems to me we are all adults and would not be swayed by what someone wrote on some message board. Oh and BTW Federal Government enforces all the Constitutional Amendments, they are Amendments to the Federal Constitution after all. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: hi seth, know both, just typing fast between work breaks. but still state issues, nor does the president have control over the 14th amendment. There is no question the republicans wrote a stupid platform that cost them the election, but don't think that people who voted for Romney are bigots. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pHXsHZ3ZofYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I'm starting to think this thread is out of gas, Riv-wise. On 11/8/2012 11:43 AM, Peter Morgano wrote: Hey lost track of this conversation at work today. I hope that Ron does not think that I assume everyone who voted for Romney is a bigot or racist. Everyone who voted for Romney voted for the wrong guy, in my opinion but I am sure they had thier own reasons and I would not assume any blanket reason. Looking back at the comments I cant see anyone who wants to force thier opinion on anyone else or make anyone else believe something they dont. I dont feel we need someone on here defending us from anyone elses comments though, seems to me we are all adults and would not be swayed by what someone wrote on some message board. Oh and BTW Federal Government enforces all the Constitutional Amendments, they are Amendments to the Federal Constitution after all. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Ron Mc bulldog...@gmail.com mailto:bulldog...@gmail.com wrote: hi seth, know both, just typing fast between work breaks. but still state issues, nor does the president have control over the 14th amendment. There is no question the republicans wrote a stupid platform that cost them the election, but don't think that people who voted for Romney are bigots. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/pHXsHZ3ZofYJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2742 / Virus Database: 2617/5880 - Release Date: 11/07/12 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I voted early, but rode the Atlantis to work on election day in a deluge here in the ATL. Even had on the rainpants, and it was pouring enough to still soak through the leather uppers of my boots. (Should have bought those splats . . . ) I figured if I didn't ride, it would be bad luck. Then I rode home in moderately less nasty weather, and made some fresh bread for the kids to continue the karma. Surprisingly, it worked. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I rode my Bombadil right past the polling place :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tk3PuaDGZ2cJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Tektro CR720 cantilever brakes
I have a surprisingly large number of these, new but no retail packaging. $15 each shipped (so $30 for a bikesworth). They're black. Come to think of it, the first brakes I ever bought from Riv (in 2004 for my Atlantis) were black Shimano cantilevers, so black is not altogether non-rivish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/mgP6YbnuqkkJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Tektro CR720 cantilever brakes
That's a very good price. Should we spread the word? Are they the long-pad version or the stubby pad version? On Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:59:47 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I have a surprisingly large number of these, new but no retail packaging. $15 each shipped (so $30 for a bikesworth). They're black. Come to think of it, the first brakes I ever bought from Riv (in 2004 for my Atlantis) were black Shimano cantilevers, so black is not altogether non-rivish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/V3Zg7emvV4AJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW garage sale
That would be fun to go to that garage sale. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/8wUkcEy9zn4J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW garage sale
looking forward to it! glad I'll be in town, and hope to have my protovelo a little more dialed in by then. Dave berkeley ca On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 9:01:30 PM UTC-8, Manuel Acosta wrote: Doing a overnight trip with my BoyScout troop the Friday to Saturday, most likely going to miss the Rivendell Garage sale. Might make the ride if it's planned in the afternoonish. Diablo is nice and close. Maybe dirt riding back down? Any suggestions? On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 7:41:09 PM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote: Just announced in the Blug: http://rivbike.tumblr.com/ Maybe we can do a bit of Just Ride-ing after. Manny's a good photographer -- perhaps he can video-stream it for the folks who aren't local. jim m just down the street, ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/QvoExJdpyFIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Bull-Moose, all the way. On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 4:38:38 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I love talking politics, but to bring the discussion more on-topic: Which party is friendlier to the lugged steel lobby? Discuss! On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:25:21 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat highlighted in red. Second, yes the Democrats lost the south forever after the civil rights acts in the 60s, I would think to the millions of people that have had thier lives improved for the better because of the Civil Rights act would not be sad about that. And dont try to tell me about the south, I lived in South Carolina for 9 years, 5 of those in rural area, they hate the democrats for really just one big reason, sad but true. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Grant, here is the polarization of our country from 1960 to 2000 EC map - 1960 presidential election http://presidentelect.org/images/e1960_ecmap.GIF EC map 2000 election http://presidentelect.org/images/e2000_ecmap.gif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/J1DHSzTqAiIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CQQJTaHGsd0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Nashville Protovelo
No relation to me and too small. http://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/3389407544.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AQkxFhILFb8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Didn't get photo evidence, but I sped down to the courthouse on my '93 MB-2. Woohoo! On Tuesday, November 6, 2012 12:03:23 PM UTC-7, Amit Singh wrote: Got a photo of your Riv at the poll? Send a link or post the photo! :) I'll be riding to go vote this evening after work and will send a photo then. Amit -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ABl_hbzZkuoJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] OT ? Building a Rivendell-inspired Surly Long Haul Trucker
I recently built up a Surly Long Haul Trucker entirely from advice on Rivendell's website. The crank and bars were also bought from Rivendell, but there's no denying it's a Surly :-) Anyway, hopefully it's not too off-topic and members of this list will enjoy the photos and maybe read about the build, too. I go on a bit. http://josswinn.org/bikes/lht.html Someone on the Surly LHT mailing list said that they didn't think there would be a LHT without Grant Peterson. I have a feeling they might be right. My bike certainly woudn't have come together in quite this way without his influence. Comments and advice on the build, most welcome. Cheers Joss -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DAzmn-B3QyEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
RE: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
HA! From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of John L Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 7:18 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today? Bull-Moose, all the way. On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 4:38:38 PM UTC-5, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I love talking politics, but to bring the discussion more on-topic: Which party is friendlier to the lugged steel lobby? Discuss! On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 3:25:21 PM UTC-6, Peter M wrote: First off that map is misleading since it has the democrat highlighted in red. Second, yes the Democrats lost the south forever after the civil rights acts in the 60s, I would think to the millions of people that have had thier lives improved for the better because of the Civil Rights act would not be sad about that. And dont try to tell me about the south, I lived in South Carolina for 9 years, 5 of those in rural area, they hate the democrats for really just one big reason, sad but true. On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 3:56 PM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.commailto:bulld...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Grant, here is the polarization of our country from 1960 to 2000 EC map - 1960 presidential election [http://presidentelect.org/images/e1960_ecmap.GIF]http://presidentelect.org/images/e1960_ecmap.GIF EC map 2000 election [http://presidentelect.org/images/e2000_ecmap.gif]http://presidentelect.org/images/e2000_ecmap.gif -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/J1DHSzTqAiIJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/CQQJTaHGsd0J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.commailto:rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nashville Protovelo
Proto-Legolas?!? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/8/12, Edwin W dweenda...@hotmail.com wrote: No relation to me and too small. http://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/3389407544.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AQkxFhILFb8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Tektro CR720 cantilever brakes
They look stubby to me. No particular need to spread the word. I have maybe 3-4 bikesworth. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, William wrote: That's a very good price. Should we spread the word? Are they the long-pad version or the stubby pad version? On Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:59:47 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I have a surprisingly large number of these, new but no retail packaging. $15 each shipped (so $30 for a bikesworth). They're black. Come to think of it, the first brakes I ever bought from Riv (in 2004 for my Atlantis) were black Shimano cantilevers, so black is not altogether non-rivish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/OtXpGGimihsJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Tektro CR720 cantilever brakes
OK, I was thinking surprisingly large was like a hundred bikes' worth. ;) Stubby pads clear the stays better, so are very desirable to the chubby tire crowd. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:21:51 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: They look stubby to me. No particular need to spread the word. I have maybe 3-4 bikesworth. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 3:12:15 PM UTC-6, William wrote: That's a very good price. Should we spread the word? Are they the long-pad version or the stubby pad version? On Thursday, November 8, 2012 12:59:47 PM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I have a surprisingly large number of these, new but no retail packaging. $15 each shipped (so $30 for a bikesworth). They're black. Come to think of it, the first brakes I ever bought from Riv (in 2004 for my Atlantis) were black Shimano cantilevers, so black is not altogether non-rivish. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/tYLpIQ41K5kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] OT ? Building a Rivendell-inspired Surly Long Haul Trucker
Joss: very nice build (well, I personally don't like big front baskets except on cargo bikes, but that apart, very nice). The colors look good as far as my semi-color-blind eyes can tell; the purple is unusual but looks very nice against the darker background of the frame. What is the frame's color, exactly? And just a thought: might the very nice looking cloth tape chainstay protector (excellent whipping job, btw) not hold water where you don't want it to? That must be a XX-36 cassette. Am trying to decide if 2 addtional teeth are worth the effort and cost for my Fargo, but if I had one in my hand, it would go on. Finally, as proud as I am of my new Sackville, nothing, but **nothing** in the way of bike luggage looks as good as a fresh, green Carradice! How does it ride? I hear that the LHT is a pretty beefy frame, so how does it compare with your other, presumably lighter gauge, bikes? On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 5:32 AM, Joss Winn j...@josswinn.org wrote: I recently built up a Surly Long Haul Trucker entirely from advice on Rivendell's website. The crank and bars were also bought from Rivendell, but there's no denying it's a Surly :-) Anyway, hopefully it's not too off-topic and members of this list will enjoy the photos and maybe read about the build, too. I go on a bit. http://josswinn.org/bikes/lht.html Someone on the Surly LHT mailing list said that they didn't think there would be a LHT without Grant Peterson. I have a feeling they might be right. My bike certainly woudn't have come together in quite this way without his influence. Comments and advice on the build, most welcome. Cheers Joss -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/DAzmn-B3QyEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- - Patrick Moore, Albuquerque, NM, USA For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW http://resumespecialties.com/index.html - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
One horse laugh is worth a thousand syllogisms. H. L. Mencken On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:27 PM, Dave dfal...@charter.net wrote: I'm starting to think this thread is out of gas, Riv-wise. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
Can't believe this thread is still open... Things like below will turn this ugly very quickly. oops.. turned it ugly. Kelly On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:47:04 AM UTC-6, Seth Vidal wrote: Steven, I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean. Absolutism has a place in our society. Let me give you some examples: I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the ability to gain the tax and probate advantages they can get through marriage regardless of their race, gender, religious beliefs or sexual orientation. I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in our society is a bigot and should be shunned. I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their own bodies. I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own bodies is Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished as such. Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm being irrational, provided you can present logic as such. -sv On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute route so I just stopped in on the way to work. I was not the first person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded. There's no shortage of irrational opinions, at the extremes of both sides. My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus builders to move us forward and soon. Absolutism has no place in a democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every time. Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live with are the very definition of politic. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7R_RkRbrm80J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nashville Protovelo
Geez, this again. This bike gets more expensive with every sale. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:22:19 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Proto-Legolas?!? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/8/12, Edwin W dween...@hotmail.com javascript: wrote: No relation to me and too small. http://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/3389407544.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AQkxFhILFb8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ER-u8tPZOPMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Nashville Protovelo
That's what I was thinking too. On Nov 8, 2012 6:39 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Geez, this again. This bike gets more expensive with every sale. Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. On Thursday, November 8, 2012 1:22:19 PM UTC-8, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Proto-Legolas?!? =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA On 11/8/12, Edwin W dween...@hotmail.com wrote: No relation to me and too small. http://nashville.craigslist.**org/bik/3389407544.htmlhttp://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/3389407544.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/**AQkxFhILFb8Jhttps://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/AQkxFhILFb8J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@**googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/ER-u8tPZOPMJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times
Clear Lake consists mainly of drunk people in pickup trucks, especially since the recession. Stay away. Joe On Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:52:29 AM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: I rode through Clear Lake this year and had numerous people shout indecipherable babble out the window, presumably yelling at me to get my bike off the road or some other drivel. The closest I came to a physical threat was when someone threw a half eaten sandwich at me (other riders have had beer bottles thrown at them). Luckily no life-threating aggression with their motor vehicles. Toshi On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Joe Bernard joer...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: [...] Joe yeah, that happened to me in Clear Lake a few years ago, too Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/c-_g0GqdSOUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times
I did get a couple thumbs up and encouraging waves while I rode through that area, but the obscenity to friendly wave ratio was probably 5:1 :(. Toshi On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 3:40 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Clear Lake consists mainly of drunk people in pickup trucks, especially since the recession. Stay away. Joe On Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:52:29 AM UTC-8, ttoshi wrote: I rode through Clear Lake this year and had numerous people shout indecipherable babble out the window, presumably yelling at me to get my bike off the road or some other drivel. The closest I came to a physical threat was when someone threw a half eaten sandwich at me (other riders have had beer bottles thrown at them). Luckily no life-threating aggression with their motor vehicles. Toshi -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nashville Protovelo
Anybody know what crankset is on that bike? On Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:31:44 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: No relation to me and too small. http://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/3389407544.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/5yfu_btoJ-kJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
I hinted at that earlier, but noo... On 11/8/2012 2:53 PM, Kelly wrote: Can't believe this thread is still open... Things like below will turn this ugly very quickly. oops.. turned it ugly. Kelly On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:47:04 AM UTC-6, Seth Vidal wrote: Steven, I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean. Absolutism has a place in our society. Let me give you some examples: I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the ability to gain the tax and probate advantages they can get through marriage regardless of their race, gender, religious beliefs or sexual orientation. I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in our society is a bigot and should be shunned. I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their own bodies. I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own bodies is Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished as such. Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm being irrational, provided you can present logic as such. -sv On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute route so I just stopped in on the way to work. I was not the first person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded. There's no shortage of irrational opinions, at the extremes of both sides. My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus builders to move us forward and soon. Absolutism has no place in a democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every time. Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live with are the very definition of politic. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7R_RkRbrm80J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com http://www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5882 - Release Date: 11/08/12 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times
In my experience the roughest time is right about now. Angst is high with El Tour de Tucson and then you have the snowbirds. If you are biking outside of the city it isn't so bad though. Lots of folks stop riding once the winter monsoons happen. I lived in Tucson when Maynard's anti-Tucson article came out and the city was not as bad as he was making it out to be. I'm not saying there never was a time when someone didn't get angry at me when I biked around just not as crazy as Maynard's experiences. Stephen On Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:10:17 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I contemplated a Tucson trip for this winter, but Maynard's negative impressions swayed me in another direction. Now that I've heard a more positive perspective, Tucson is back on my mind. Also, I have no fear of death, which helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/F7D7VTu4bVEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Nashville Protovelo
My recollection from the SFBay listing is that the cranks are pre-Octalink 600 Ultegra. Joe On Thursday, November 8, 2012 5:47:16 PM UTC-8, Tony Lockhart wrote: Anybody know what crankset is on that bike? On Thursday, November 8, 2012 4:31:44 AM UTC-8, Edwin W wrote: No relation to me and too small. http://nashville.craigslist.org/bik/3389407544.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/BUDOjezH0PUJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Friend of Rivendell Maynard Hershon in LA Times
The most intense level of bicycling activity in Tucson declines considerably after the El Tour de Tucson (always on the Saturday before Thanksgiving). Many of the snowbirds are themselves cyclists and they're active right up until they return to their home roosts around late April! One of the better books, recently published, that shows some of the routes in the immediate Tucson area is Desert Journeys, written by Jerry Rosen (published by the author - http://www.jrphoto.org/journeys.htm ). It's nicely illustrated with photographs on a glossy stock paper. The most active local cycling club (for non-racers) is GABA ( http://www.bikegaba.org/ ) they have a variety of rides in the area, including some with support. One of my favorite day rides is from Amado (south of Green Valley) to Arivaca. A ride that includes some climbs and roller coasters and ends up in Arivaca, where there is a small market and some decent restaurants. Return is back to Amado (46 miles total with the opportunity for some side rides in the area). I first heard about this ride from Colin Laing, the British custom framebuilder (now retired) who had apprenticed with the Taylor Brothers. He once had a shop in Tucson and built a triplet for my family with a kiddie-crank conversion in the center position. Jim Cloud Tucson, AZ On Nov 8, 8:46 pm, Stephen S elphk...@gmail.com wrote: In my experience the roughest time is right about now. Angst is high with El Tour de Tucson and then you have the snowbirds. If you are biking outside of the city it isn't so bad though. Lots of folks stop riding once the winter monsoons happen. I lived in Tucson when Maynard's anti-Tucson article came out and the city was not as bad as he was making it out to be. I'm not saying there never was a time when someone didn't get angry at me when I biked around just not as crazy as Maynard's experiences. Stephen On Thursday, November 8, 2012 10:10:17 AM UTC-8, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery wrote: I contemplated a Tucson trip for this winter, but Maynard's negative impressions swayed me in another direction. Now that I've heard a more positive perspective, Tucson is back on my mind. Also, I have no fear of death, which helps. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Anyone tried Mark's rack attaced to dropout eyelets?
Hello all, I am trying to figure out a basket mounting solution for a bike of mine. Has anyone tried a Mark's rack attached to fork dropout eyelets? The bike in question is a CB0 that I have been setting up for a short time. I want to mount the Mark's with clamps to the top of my unicrown fork and with the long stays the riv sells to the top eyelets on my fork. Has anyone tried something like that? Maybe mounted an MR with a four point attachment to the threaded bosses on the Bomba fork crown plus the dropout eyelets? My concern is that the long stays with bend easily or be in the way on the front of a bus rack. I like the Mark's rack because it is short unlike the R14 which has a similar setup. Thanks JL I don't have a Mark's rack yet but I did recently acquire a nitto big front rack for the same bike - but the fit wont work. It is up for sale. Ask me off list about the big front rack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/dsZXpUt9dSEJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Who rode their bicycle to vote in the US today?
More importantly UPS lost my phil tools so it's either wait for them to find that package or put the shimano bb in so I can ride tomorrow, grrr. On Nov 8, 2012 9:10 PM, Dave dfal...@charter.net wrote: I hinted at that earlier, but noo... On 11/8/2012 2:53 PM, Kelly wrote: Can't believe this thread is still open... Things like below will turn this ugly very quickly. oops.. turned it ugly. Kelly On Thursday, November 8, 2012 9:47:04 AM UTC-6, Seth Vidal wrote: Steven, I think you're committing the fallacy of the golden mean. Absolutism has a place in our society. Let me give you some examples: I absolutely believe that all adult americans should have the ability to gain the tax and probate advantages they can get through marriage regardless of their race, gender, religious beliefs or sexual orientation. I believe anyone pushing to withhold those rights from folks in our society is a bigot and should be shunned. I absolutely believe that all women should have control over their own bodies. I believe anyone advocating for them losing control of their own bodies is Akin(haha, get it?) to a rapist and should be punished as such. Those are things I absolutely believe. You let me know when I'm being irrational, provided you can present logic as such. -sv On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:26 AM, Steven Frederick stl...@gmail.comwrote: My polling place is only a couple of blocks off my usual bike commute route so I just stopped in on the way to work. I was not the first person to vote but I was close enough in line to see the first person come out of the ballot area and to join in when the crowd applauded. There's no shortage of irrational opinions, at the extremes of both sides. My fervent hope is that there will be enough consensus builders to move us forward and soon. Absolutism has no place in a democracy as varied as ours--no one gets things all their way, every time. Solving problems and finding solutions most every one can live with are the very definition of politic. Steve Frederick, East Lansing, MI -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bun...@** googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/** group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=enhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/7R_RkRbrm80J. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.2793 / Virus Database: 2624/5882 - Release Date: 11/08/12 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Sackville Saddlebags question...
Looking into the S size on rivbike.com. One question: Does the bottom of it sag when loaded with stuff, or does it keep its nice square shape, staying flat on bottom? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l7kJ5ON22-YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: 1 pair Bruce Gordon Rock-n-Road tires, like-new
Gang, I think I am the 3rd or 4th to have tried these, but... having had similar clearance issues as previous owners, these gained 0 miles in my garage (after being mounted once). $80+shipping, or local pickup available in Walnut Creek or Berkeley. thanks =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sackville Saddlebags question...
It will sag if you put small, heavy objects in it, but if they are fairly flat and heavy, it won't sag. As usual, it depends... Brian Seattle, WA On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looking into the S size on rivbike.com. One question: Does the bottom of it sag when loaded with stuff, or does it keep its nice square shape, staying flat on bottom? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l7kJ5ON22-YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Sackville Saddlebags question...
I've found that the coroplast stiffener does well to prevent sagging. Patrick Moore iPhone On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:03 PM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Looking into the S size on rivbike.com. One question: Does the bottom of it sag when loaded with stuff, or does it keep its nice square shape, staying flat on bottom? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/l7kJ5ON22-YJ. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
