[RBW] Re: Sugino crank question

[Michael Hechmer]

Interesting, although I would guess that's not how you feel about it. I 
have never had this happen.  My problem has been between the rings and I 
now see that what I need are the 1.2 mm spacers.  I am putting this on a 
bike I hope to sell, and removing a DaVinci crank, which I like very much. 
 I am running a Phil Wood 108 on an Ebisu AllPurpose and hope the Sugino 
crank doesn't create that problem.  I run the Sugino on a Trek 620 (also up 
for sale) with a 110 bb.  No problem, but still need the shims on that 
crank too.

Michael

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 9:08:24 PM UTC-5, dougP wrote:
>
> On mine, the chain gets caught between the middle ring & chainstay.  When 
> this happens, the chain is on the inner ring at the top but the section 
> that's disengaging from middle to inner gets stuck between the stay & the 
> middle.  Visually, there appears to be more space between the inner & 
> middle rings than the middle & outer rings.
>
> Mine is an XD with flat rings (no ramps or pins), with a 110 mm BB.  I'd 
> thought that next time I need a BB I'd go up to a 113 to give the chain 
> more clearance with the stay.  Agree that Sugino's "hidden bolt" is a PITA, 
> and serves no useful purpose.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 3:38:55 PM UTC-8, Mike Schiller wrote:
>>
>> The standard def. of chain suck is getting the chain stick between the 
>> chain stay and granny ring. I've never experienced or heard of the chain 
>> getting stuck between the middle and granny.  What width chain are you 
>> using?  I normally use an 8 speed chain on my bikes with the Sugino crank.  
>>
>> ~mike
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

[Matthew J]

Precisely.  At big auto shows inevitably there is a Lamborghini or other 
such terribly expensive and impractical machine lurking among the Malibus 
and Accords drawing oohs and ahhs from people who would never buy such an 
exotic even if they had the spare cash.  Bike show need not be any 
different.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:09:16 PM UTC-6, Philip Williamson wrote:

> "Oh no you didn't!" ;^) 
> That's a time trial bike. Its an F1 racing machine. The builder is one of 
> the top engineers building bikes. He paints them. He races them to 
> championships. He includes beautiful details, and machines the parts he 
> designs. I think he made the brakes on that bike. 
> I would put money down that the NAHBS winning bike is extremely rideable, 
> but not for you. Or me. For someone with the power and desire to set a TT 
> course record, I think that bike will do it. 
>
> Respectfully,
> Philip 
>
> WWW.biketinker.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Latest BLUG post (2/28)

[Matthew J]

> no drag except in the dark
Can't speak to the bargain varieties, but the Schmidt SON Dynohub has no 
noticeable drag when not on.  Even when the lights are on - least ways LED 
lights - its drag is not noticeable.  And this from someone who has bikes 
with Maxicar and highly custom Campy front hubs.

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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[René Sterental]

Welcome aboard!

On Saturday I took a friend and his wife to RBW and after doing some test
rides, they placed orders for a Sam and a Betty. Now they have to be
patient until they arrive, so I gave then Grant's book as a present.

Enjoy your Sam!

René

On Sunday, March 3, 2013, Manuel Acosta wrote:

> Looks like same size buddy Hillbornes!
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:08:40 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>>
>> Congrats! Glad you are enjoying the bike. What size frame?
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[PATRICK MOORE]

Welcome to the list. I see that you have the prettiest of saddlebags
-- in color, shape, and proportions -- the green Nelson.

I also spy with my little eye an iPhone on your stem: please describe
the attaching device? The Topeak "rain sack" I have is less than
satisfactory.

On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Kellie Stapleton
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> Just joined this group recently after picking up my new Hillborne from RBW
> HQ the beginning of Feb. Love the atmosphere here, and my new bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO spd-to-clip-and-strap pedal converters

[PATRICK MOORE]

Jim -- just saw this -- forced myself and daughter to a "day away from
computer day" yesterday. I'd be very grateful if you would look.

Many thanks.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:33 AM, jim <4421...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm pretty sure the shop I work Saturdays at has some of these. I can check
> if you like.
> (Budget Bicycles in Madison, WI)
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 5:33:44 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> I remember this now; thanks for the reminder. Would still like to find
>> some of the old triathlete converters, but these look easy to make.
>> (And there is a newish bike shop nearby, focused on triathletes --
>> must check with them.)
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Jim Mather  wrote:
>> > On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 1:27 PM, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Well, I use Keos on the gofast and on the (I'm working on it, I'm
>> >> working on it, OK?) still in process Ram.
>> >>
>> >> $35???
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If you think that's too expensive, make your own like Phillip did:
>> > http://www.biketinker.com/skatedeck-pedals/
>> >
>> > You can easily screw clips to them if you want.
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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Simpleone 62cm frameset (located in Ontario, Canada)

[Matt]

Hello RivBunchers,

I purchased this frameset from Rivendell exactly a year ago, then built it 
and rode it some over the summer. I have decided to go with a Sam Hillborne 
for its longer top tube and more lax seat tube angle, so am selling the 
Simpleone one to make room.

I have taken good care of it and treated it with RustCheck before build-up. 
Geometry is available here: http://tinyurl.com/cj7k88j
Rivbike infopage here: http://www.rivbike.com/SimpleOne-p/f-simpleone.htm

Asking $725 + Shipping.

I will post pictures shortly and have some extra parts available if the 
buyer needs something for the build.

Please message me with questions, trades, offers, etc.

Thank you and have a good ride,

Matt

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[RBW] Work Shop Advice II

[GeorgeS]

My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me 
about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and 
that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for 
some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant 
torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.) 
 So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no 
instructions.  Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install 
this thing?  700c wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of 
additional space?  Higher?  This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I 
don't want to get it right the first time if possible.  Thanks.
GeorgeS
New Orleans

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[RBW] OT ISO 1980's TREK 400 thru 600 series.

[hsmitham]

I've been in search of a Trek 1980's vintage road bike or frame-set any one 
out there have one hanging in their garage gathering dust and ready to go 
to a new home? If so we can talk off group.

Cheers,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

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Re: [RBW] Work Shop Advice II

[PATRICK MOORE]

Please post photos of the workshop when it is finished -- thanks!

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:27 AM, GeorgeS  wrote:
> My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me
> about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and
> that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for some
> jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant torque
> (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.)  So, I
> purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no instructions.
> Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install this thing?  700c
> wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of additional space?  Higher?
> This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I don't want to get it right
> the first time if possible.  Thanks.
> GeorgeS
> New Orleans
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Re: [RBW] Work Shop Advice II

[Lyle Bogart]

Hey George,

While I do not have the wall mount (mine's going on a very heavy work
bench; bench-top height of 32"), I would recommend mounting it at the same
height you find most comfortable with your stand-alone bike stand.

And, as Patrick wrote, pics when the shop is done :)

Cheers!

lyle

On 4 March 2013 11:12, PATRICK MOORE  wrote:

> Please post photos of the workshop when it is finished -- thanks!
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:27 AM, GeorgeS  wrote:
> > My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me
> > about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and
> > that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for
> some
> > jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant torque
> > (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.)  So, I
> > purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no instructions.
> > Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install this thing?
>  700c
> > wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of additional space?
>  Higher?
> > This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I don't want to get it right
> > the first time if possible.  Thanks.
> > GeorgeS
> > New Orleans
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[RBW] Re: Work Shop Advice II

[Leslie]

I would think, if you're wanting it to handle torque, you want it up at 
'working level', where you can get to it;  maybe having the BB at 
belt-buckle level, perhaps?


Look for pics of Seth Vidal's garage... he's got my dream bike workshop



On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:27:22 AM UTC-5, GeorgeS wrote:
>
> My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me 
> about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and 
> that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for 
> some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant 
> torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.) 
>  So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no 
> instructions.  Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install 
> this thing?  700c wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of 
> additional space?  Higher?  This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I 
> don't want to get it right the first time if possible.  Thanks.
> GeorgeS
> New Orleans
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Re: [RBW] Work Shop Advice II

[Scott Henry]

I always run mine as high as I can.  I don't like bending over at all so my
drivetrain height is just below chest level for me.




On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:27 AM, GeorgeS  wrote:

> My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me
> about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and
> that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for
> some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant
> torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.)
>  So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no
> instructions.  Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install
> this thing?  700c wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of
> additional space?  Higher?  This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I
> don't want to get it right the first time if possible.  Thanks.
> GeorgeS
> New Orleans
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Re: [RBW] OT ISO 1980's TREK 400 thru 600 series.

[PATRICK MOORE]

This from the boblist this morning. My size, but I don't need it, of course.

ejg 

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 5:01 AM, ejg  wrote:
> Pictures of things for sale
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/ejasongibbs/
>
>>  1984 TREK 660 frame red. 24” seat tube center to top  57cm  top tube c to
>> c. Stronglight needle bearing headset. Sloping fork crown.  27.2 seatpost,
>> recessed brakes, 126 OLD spacing,  but I was using a 130 hub with no issues.
>> Great bike, very light and fast. Super handling, never experienced any
>> shimmy. Did everything it was supposed to do. I purchased this frame from
>> another list member to build as a 650b conversion and used it that way for
>> quite awhile. There are 2 bottle cage mounts and no other eyelets. This
>> frame is not set up for using fenders. I used SKS with P-clamps and this
>> worked fine. If one were to use this frame for 650b. the biggest tire would
>> be a Pari-Moto 38mm. This is tight, but offered enough clearance for me
>> without fenders. With fenders there was occasional rubbing with the Pari
>> Motos.. The TEKTRO R365 brakes worked great. A better choice would probably
>> be a 32mm 650b tire with fenders. Or to run it as a 700c.  Some wear to the
>> paint, scratches, etc. , but no dents and the frame is straight. $150.00
>>

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Re: [RBW] OT ISO 1980's TREK 400 thru 600 series.

[PATRICK MOORE]

FWIW, my brother, thru whose hands scores if not hundreds of bikes go
through each year (syntax, Patrick, syntax: what I mean is: Peter sees
huge numbers of bikes each year, buying and flipping scores and
specializes in old steel): this was a top o' the line model back in
the day. Don't know anything 'bout it myself.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:53 AM, hsmitham  wrote:
> I've been in search of a Trek 1980's vintage road bike or frame-set any one
> out there have one hanging in their garage gathering dust and ready to go to
> a new home? If so we can talk off group.
>
> Cheers,
>
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> Sunland, CA
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[RBW] FS SP PV-8 Wheel

[Kelly]

I have a PV-8 dyno on a Velocity Deep V Black Rim for sale.140.00 and 
I'll pay shipping continental US.   If you pick it up it's 130.00

Why am I selling:   Because I don't want to cut the spokes out of a 
perfectly good wheel and hang a really nice rim on the wall never to be 
used again. 
I found I liked the looks of boxed rims better than the deep V ... so 
selling for the cost of a new hub.  

Here is some photos.. 

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8527302719/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8528418346/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8528417696/in/photostream/

I can be reached at 
tkslee...@gmail.com
or phone works too.. 314-799-4743

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: WTB- Sugino XD2 Crank Triple (driveside)

[William]

Adam

Sorry, but I can't help you.  I have a right side XD2 that is available, 
but it's 172.5mm and it's for a double.  I just purchased a 172.5mm triple 
right arm off the Rivendell garage sale table.  There were no other crank 
arms there when I snagged that one.  

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:01:09 PM UTC-8, Adam wrote:
>
> Right. Found the length-170mm. Let me know if you have anything that might 
> fit the bill.
>
> Thank you!
> Adam
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Adam wrote:
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> I've finally concluded that the incessant clicking on my pedal stoke has 
>> to do with my damaged drivetrain crank arm. I've tried pedal washers and 
>> tons of grease and still the clicking continues. For those that are 
>> wondering I've done a full process of elimination with bottom bracket and 
>> pedal possibilities.
>>
>> So...I need a new crank for my drive side. If anyone happens to have an 
>> extra single crank arm I'd love to purchase it. Otherwise also interested 
>> if anyone has a set. I have chainrings so am covered on that front. They 
>> measure 6.5 inches on the inside and 8 inches on the outside. Is that 170mm?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Adam
>>
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

[Pam Ellen Hudson]

I'm fenders in LA as well!

Pam

On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:45 AM, cyclotourist wrote:

> Fenders in LA, too.
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3528587158/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Matthew J  wrote:
> 700c 32 to about 38' Lower trail with poteur style rack, Paul center pull or 
> mini-v brakes, single speed or 1x at most 6' Jitensha or similar bars, dyno 
> hub with headlight.  Unless I am in LA, fenders.
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Re: [RBW] Re: OT - Family Biking

[rb]

I'd like to put a word in for having the kid(s) on the back of a tandem, 
either a regular sized one with a "kid back" or a bike friday (or MTB type 
tandem with a lower top tube in back, or if you have the $$ or get lucky on 
the internet, one of the amazing "periscope" tandems that are made for this 
very purpose.

Like one of the other posters, I live in a hilly rural area; and I have 
been pulling my kid on a first a kidback, and tandem since he was 3 1/2; 
and he's been putting out reasonable pedal power since (from 10 months - 3, 
he was in a trailer).  The added power from the child is very helpful 
sometimes, esp as he got heavier (now at 80 lbs and 10 years old, a 
sprinter esp on hills), but most importantly - early lesson in "there is no 
free ride" - even those few times where I said stop pedalling and I'll pull 
you up the hill, or we'll walk, or whatever, he saw the relationship 
between effort and benefit. We've all seen kids who expect everythng to be 
handed to them...how are they going to understand that they have 
responsibility if after being hauled around until they're 7 or 8, THEN they 
have to start riding up those hills?   

Whichever tandem we've used (and here's a link to some of them), they've 
all been great for carrying lots of stuff besides the kid; with cheap 
panniers, or even better, the wald folding grocery racks / big rack + 
basket up front, I've hauled 60 lbs of stuff, plus kid, no problem, 
although we do sometimes walk up hills (there are a lot of steep grades 
round here (western mass / & Columbia County NY).  We try to ride 
everywhere within 10 miles.

http://flic.kr/s/aHsjE7mW43

Lights, good rain gear, lots of snacks, fun destinations in addition to the 
hardware, feed, and grocery stores.

Oh, and hey, riv content -
a. bikes are "riv'd out" as the expression goes
b. if you look closely, there's a shot of my wife's glorius in grand 
central in front of the Bike friday loaded up.

ron in western ma

On Saturday, March 2, 2013 11:07:39 AM UTC-5, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> My friend Madi had two kid seats on a "regular" 
> bike. 
> She made it work and could cram an impressive amount of stuff on there but 
> she eventually got a Big Dummy (frame + rack + fenders all powder coated 
> pink). 
>
> 650b would work fine on a free radical... just use disk brakes and the 
> 700c spacers... or improvise your own spacers. Or go 650b front and 26" 
> rear then get different size tires to make the outside diameter match. 
>
> If yer wife wants to haul kids on a regular basis, she'd be better off 
> getting an actual longtail. It could be sold in several years and she could 
> get a sparkly new BF when the kids are on their own. Or buy the BF with the 
> gas money saved from her riding the longtail everywhere 'cause she loves it 
> so much.
>
> my 2 cents. 
>
> I realize I started this thread, but the Riv-ness of continuing this 
> discussion is questionable, feel free to email me direct if you want to 
> discuss family biking. 
> 54canoe at the mail with a G and dot com
>
> --Smitty 
>
>
>
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:45:15 AM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>>
>> Ahhh. Excellent point, Pudge. The other possibility we're toying with is 
>> if the Betty Foy could do fine with a handlebar carrier and a 
>> three-year-old with stoker bars on the back rack. Anyone done this?
>>
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>> On Saturday, March 2, 2013 6:39:04 AM UTC-7, Pudge wrote:
>>>
>>>  My recollection is that Colin (in Texas?) on the list did it with a 
>>> Bleriot.  But wouldn't one of the purpose-built longbikes (Big Dummy, 
>>> Radish) be netter for this? I think the cost would be comparable or maybe 
>>> even lower, with one of the Xtracycle models.  Also, the Betty is 650b and 
>>> the Free Radical conversion kits work only for 26" and 700c, as I recall -- 
>>> something to do with rear brake installation, I think. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2013, at 8:24 AM, "Deacon Patrick"  wrote:
>>>
>>>   After talking it over, we're thinking of getting my wife a Betty Foy 
>>> and fitting it with an xtracycle Free Radical and family friendly bits. 
>>> http://www.xtracycle.com/cargo-bicycles/xtracycle-cargo-bicycles/xtracycle-freeradical.html/.
>>>  That way she has a quality ride (vs. the too small Trek MTB, which we may 
>>> use in the meantime), and when the munchkins are on their own bikes in 7 or 
>>> so years, she'll have a Betty Foy for all her riding. Anyone done this with 
>>> a Riv of any type? All thoughts and advice welcomed (as always). 
>>>
>>>  With abandon,
>>> Patrick
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 1, 2013 9:19:27 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: 

 This is somewhat OT but the pics are full of stuff from Riv... Aussie 
 Wool, Bosco Bars, Betty Foy, Cork Grips, and more. I wrote a guest post on 
 a friends blog about family biking and going car-free. Thought it might be 
>>

Re: [RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

[Daniel]

Has anyone tried the Planet Bike Cascadia with Hetres?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

[Jim Mather]

Yes.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Daniel  wrote:
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

[PATRICK MOORE]

A local mega miler here in ABQ "nine inches in the rare year we are
not in a drought", Gary "It was a bad year; only nine thousand miles."
Blakely installed fenders on his Trek and kept them year 'round; he
found he crossed enough irrigation runoff puddles to make them worth
while. But then, at 10K+ miles on a normal year, you'd probably cross
a lot of everything.

I kept Honjos on the commuter Riv until they broke and I didn't bother
to replace them.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Pam Ellen Hudson  wrote:
> I'm fenders in LA as well!
>
> Pam
>
> On Mar 3, 2013, at 5:45 AM, cyclotourist wrote:
>
> Fenders in LA, too.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3528587158/
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Matthew J  wrote:
>>
>> 700c 32 to about 38' Lower trail with poteur style rack, Paul center pull
>> or mini-v brakes, single speed or 1x at most 6' Jitensha or similar bars,
>> dyno hub with headlight.  Unless I am in LA, fenders.
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[RBW] Re: Work Shop Advice II

[Cyclofiend Jim]

IIRC, there are a few bench mounted Park stands here - 
http://cyclofiend.com/shop/

Others have made good salient points for mounting height.  If it's 
primarily to be the "high torque" resource, I'd try to approximate the 
position where you "bear down" - for me, that's a bit lower than my regular 
preferred workstand height. 

- J

On Monday, March 4, 2013 7:27:22 AM UTC-8, GeorgeS wrote:
>
> My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me 
> about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and 
> that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for 
> some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant 
> torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.) 
>  So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no 
> instructions.  Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install 
> this thing?  700c wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of 
> additional space?  Higher?  This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I 
> don't want to get it right the first time if possible.  Thanks.
> GeorgeS
> New Orleans
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Hey and welcome, Kellie

congrats on the beautiful ride!  That light (pencil?) blue with the cream 
fenders is an eye-catcher.  

- Jim / cyclofiend.com

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> Just joined this group recently after picking up my new Hillborne from RBW 
> HQ the beginning of Feb. Love the atmosphere here, and my new bike.
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Re: [RBW] Work Shop Advice II

[Jim Mather]

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:27 AM, GeorgeS  wrote:
> (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.)  So, I

When removing the fixed cup, I like to have the bb low (i.e., wheels
on the ground). In this position I can bend to reach the wrench
handle, which allows me to utilize more back strength than if the bb
is at waist height. Kind of like the difference between a dead lift
and a bicep curl. I assume you're keeping the mobile work stand, which
will allow you to put the bike in a higher position for other
mechanical needs.

jim m
wc ca

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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Disambiguation:

Cyclofiend - Jim E / Me / List moderator / runner of things cyclofiend.com 
/ SF Bay Area

Cyclotourist - David / http://cyclotourist.blogspot.com/ / SoCal/Inland 
Empire

SFCyclotourist - JimG / Ride Buddy of me / yojimg.net  / SF Bay Area - 
confusing because he's another "Jim"


On Sunday, March 3, 2013 7:53:11 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Cyclotourist ("Jim"?): nice photo set (demand story behind the shoe pile). 
>
> Where in CA are those dirt trails? 
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 8:45 AM, cyclotourist 
> > 
> wrote: 
> > Fenders in LA, too. 
> > 
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/3528587158/ 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 7:33 AM, Matthew J > 
> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> 700c 32 to about 38' Lower trail with poteur style rack, Paul center 
> pull 
> >> or mini-v brakes, single speed or 1x at most 6' Jitensha or similar 
> bars, 
> >> dyno hub with headlight.  Unless I am in LA, fenders. 
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Re: [RBW] Front Rack ideas

[Minh]

great memory william!  and here it is, 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r6.htm


On Monday, March 4, 2013 12:14:47 AM UTC-5, William wrote:
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> That Atlantis is sporting the old Nitto Highrider front rack.

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[RBW] Re: Work Shop Advice II

[Minh]

Hmm, interesting quesiton, i've never considered this, but now that you 
bring it up, not sure about the right answer.  my first inclination would 
be to have it high enough for standing height working of the bike, but high 
torque situations would need it a little lower.  

you mentioned a stud, how are you going to get it away from the wall? 


On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:27:22 AM UTC-5, GeorgeS wrote:
>
> My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me 
> about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and 
> that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for 
> some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant 
> torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.) 
>  So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no 
> instructions.  Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install 
> this thing?  700c wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of 
> additional space?  Higher?  This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I 
> don't want to get it right the first time if possible.  Thanks.
> GeorgeS
> New Orleans
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Re: [RBW] Latest BLUG post (2/28)

[Bryan]

Fenders in LA with me, too, at least on my commuter. The streets here are 
always filled with run-off from the lawn sprinklers of the rich and 
clueless, and who knows what else. I don't want that stuff splashing on my 
feet and legs. Every once in a while, it rains here, and when it does the 
streets flood almost instantly.  

I grab my Quickbeam almost every day for my commute. I don't want to think 
about shifting when I'm riding to work. I just want to pedal. I like the 
reliability and the fact that I'm always in gear. 

Bryan

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[RBW] Steel in the Desert

[Eric Norris]

Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death Valley 
Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this weekend not the 
hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/

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Re: [RBW] Steel in the Desert

[PATRICK MOORE]

Nice photos. Was it the Benotto you thought of bringing to NM?

Patrick Moore, who rode 170 (furlongs) this weekend.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Eric Norris  wrote:
> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death
> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this weekend
> not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>
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[RBW] Re: OT ISO 1980's TREK 400 thru 600 series.

[Jim M.]

Jump on this one: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/61cm-Trek-728-Touring-Bike-Reynolds-531-1982-/130851064816?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item1e7754cbf0



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>
> I've been in search of a Trek 1980's vintage road bike or frame-set any 
> one out there have one hanging in their garage gathering dust and ready to 
> go to a new home? If so we can talk off group.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hugh
> Sunland, CA
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Re: [RBW] Work Shop Advice II

[Seth Vidal]

George,
 Glad to hear your bike workshop is in progress.

Here's pics of mine:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/skvidal/sets/72157629538063710/


I will say that I contemplated the wall/table-mount park clamp. I
eventually settled on just using the one I had b/c I wanted to move the
stand around to make it useful for hoisting up the tandems.

I've honestly considered doing a stand like Ezra Caldwell (Fastboy cycles')
workstand:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/fastboy/343233482/

The surface-mount workstand on a big poured-concrete base on wheels.

it's absolutely GENIUS imo. Heavy enough to counterbalance a bike, easy
enough to roll around.

-sv



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> My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me
> about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and
> that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for
> some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant
> torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.)
>  So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no
> instructions.  Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install
> this thing?  700c wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of
> additional space?  Higher?  This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I
> don't want to get it right the first time if possible.  Thanks.
> GeorgeS
> New Orleans
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Re: [RBW] Re: Work Shop Advice II

[Seth Vidal]

Leslie,
 Very kind of you to say so - I've rearranged a bit recently. I suspect
some spring cleaning is in order, too. :)

-sv



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Leslie  wrote:

> I would think, if you're wanting it to handle torque, you want it up at
> 'working level', where you can get to it;  maybe having the BB at
> belt-buckle level, perhaps?
>
>
> Look for pics of Seth Vidal's garage... he's got my dream bike workshop
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:27:22 AM UTC-5, GeorgeS wrote:
>>
>> My new work shop is coming along and the contractor has started asking me
>> about the interior.  I have a Park bike stand that I use all the time and
>> that I intend to use in the new shop.  I find that stand inadequate for
>> some jobs, particularly those requiring the application of significant
>> torque (removing fixed cup, the occasional recalcitrant seat post, etc.)
>>  So, I purchased a Park wall-mounted bike clamp.  It came with no
>> instructions.  Anyone have any advice on how far off the floor to install
>> this thing?  700c wheels touching the floor?  A couple of inches of
>> additional space?  Higher?  This clamp has to be screwed into a stud, so I
>> don't want to get it right the first time if possible.  Thanks.
>> GeorgeS
>> New Orleans
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[RBW] Re: OT ISO 1980's TREK 400 thru 600 series.

[Pondero]

What size?  I've got an approx. 56cm.  If that works, I'll contact you 
offline.


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>
> Cheers,
>
> Hugh
> Sunland, CA
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[RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Great photo set. I have family in Barstow, CA. Have been thinking to bring 
a bike next time we visit. These pics reinforce that that's a good idea. 
--Smitty

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>
> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this 
> weekend not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

Welcome to the list. 

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> Just joined this group recently after picking up my new Hillborne from RBW 
> HQ the beginning of Feb. Love the atmosphere here, and my new bike.
>
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[RBW] Re: OT ISO 1980's TREK 400 thru 600 series.

[hsmitham]

Hi Pondero,

Yeah 56cm would do it. (323) 627-7755 or h...@smitham.com.

Regards,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:48:51 AM UTC-8, Pondero wrote:
>
> What size?  I've got an approx. 56cm.  If that works, I'll contact you 
> offline.
>
>
> On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:53:07 AM UTC-6, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> I've been in search of a Trek 1980's vintage road bike or frame-set any 
>> one out there have one hanging in their garage gathering dust and ready to 
>> go to a new home? If so we can talk off group.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Hugh
>> Sunland, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[Deacon Patrick]

That is some nice looking road. 200 miles that flat? Wow. Two things seem 
startling to me. First, the flat for that long. Second, I had to tell 
myself it was salt or minerals rather than snow that was white in the early 
photos. That's what I get for living in the Colorado Rockies. Grin. I just 
did a ride/run and watched a spring storm come in around Pikes Peak. What a 
grand contrast to see your photos. Thanks!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:39:06 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this 
> weekend not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
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[RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[Tom Goodmann]

Beauty in the starkness. The desert is clean, isn't it?  Thanks for the 
photos; I especially like the shadow you were chasing down that long road.

Tom

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>
> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this 
> weekend not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
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[RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[Ron Mc]

fun photos and a great slide show

On Monday, March 4, 2013 11:39:06 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this 
> weekend not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> www.campyonly.com
> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[Eric Norris]

It's actually not that flat. The ride organizer lists the climbing at about 
9,000 feet, including the (long) climbs to Salisbury and Jubilee passes. Most 
of the rest of the ride is either slightly uphill or downhill, the result of 
the road undulating over the alluvial fans that extend from the mountains into 
the valley. Not the toughest double, but certainly not easy.

Eric N
www.CampyOnly.com
CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
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On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> That is some nice looking road. 200 miles that flat? Wow. Two things seem 
> startling to me. First, the flat for that long. Second, I had to tell myself 
> it was salt or minerals rather than snow that was white in the early photos. 
> That's what I get for living in the Colorado Rockies. Grin. I just did a 
> ride/run and watched a spring storm come in around Pikes Peak. What a grand 
> contrast to see your photos. Thanks!
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
> 
> On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:39:06 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>> 
>> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
>> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this weekend 
>> not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>> 
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>> 
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
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Re: [RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[Deacon Patrick]

Nice!

On Monday, March 4, 2013 1:39:38 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> It's actually not that flat. The ride organizer lists the climbing at 
> about 9,000 feet, including the (long) climbs to Salisbury and Jubilee 
> passes. Most of the rest of the ride is either slightly uphill or downhill, 
> the result of the road undulating over the alluvial fans that extend from 
> the mountains into the valley. Not the toughest double, but certainly not 
> easy.
>
> Eric N
> www.CampyOnly.com
> CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com
> Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy
>
> On Mar 4, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Deacon Patrick > 
> wrote:
>
> That is some nice looking road. 200 miles that flat? Wow. Two things seem 
> startling to me. First, the flat for that long. Second, I had to tell 
> myself it was salt or minerals rather than snow that was white in the early 
> photos. That's what I get for living in the Colorado Rockies. Grin. I just 
> did a ride/run and watched a spring storm come in around Pikes Peak. What a 
> grand contrast to see your photos. Thanks!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, March 4, 2013 10:39:06 AM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
>> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this 
>> weekend not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Evan]

Welcome, Kellie! Great-looking Sam!

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[RBW] Columbia Slough

[Andy Smitty Schmidt]

The Columbia Slough is a waterway that parallels the Columbia River in 
north Portland, OR. It's not really that spectacular as far as waterways 
go, but it's largely contained by dikes that have an access road along the 
top. Our plan was to ride to the NW corner of PDX and follow the Slough 
east as far as we could. We ran shy on time before we ran out of dike to 
explore, so I imagine we'll be back another day. 

The slough itself isn't very photogenic so no pics of the muddy waterway, 
but there are enough from the rest of the ride to prove we were went 
somewhere... 

Smitty's Pics 

Tommy's Pics 

--Smitty

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[RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[Mike Schiller]

the right bike for Barstow is a fat bike... maybe that should be Grant's 
next project?  

~mike

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>
> Great photo set. I have family in Barstow, CA. Have been thinking to bring 
> a bike next time we visit. These pics reinforce that that's a good idea. 
> --Smitty
>
> On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:39:06 AM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
>> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this 
>> weekend not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>
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[RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[Aaron Thomas]

In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom 
Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of 
interest to the list:

http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design

I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which "innovated" 
away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways "'innovating' 
back to where we started." 

—Aaron

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[RBW] Re: interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[Tom Goodmann]

Really great; how down-to-earth he sounds.  Thanks for sharing.

On Monday, March 4, 2013 5:56:28 PM UTC-5, Aaron Thomas wrote:
>
> In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom 
> Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of 
> interest to the list:
>
>
> http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design
>
> I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which "innovated" 
> away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways "'innovating' 
> back to where we started." 
>
> —Aaron
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[RBW] Re: interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[Deacon Patrick]

Thanks for sharing. A little over a year ago, when I began looking at what 
bike to get, I'd been running barefoot or in moccasins for nearly three 
years. The shoe industry is doing much the same thing -- discovering the 
value of the simpler way of doing things and the price we unwittingly pay 
for things that get in the way of proper function (of the pneumatic tire, 
the foot, whatever).

That is a huge part of what attracted me to Grant and Riv. -- so much so I 
bought a bike I'd never ridden, after not riding a bike for over a decade 
(I had a Greenspeed trike for a few years, but that only worked on paved 
roads and was pretty limiting).

We need more retrogrouches! Grin

With abandon,
Patrick

On Monday, March 4, 2013 3:56:28 PM UTC-7, Aaron Thomas wrote:
>
> In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom 
> Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of 
> interest to the list:
>
>
> http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design
>
> I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which "innovated" 
> away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways "'innovating' 
> back to where we started." 
>
> —Aaron
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Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

[Peter Morgano]

Funny post on Coffee on BSNYC. Sorry for the potty humor for those more
sensitve readers, but not really.

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Rusty Click  wrote:

> I'm good for 3 pins, and 3 patches, if they come through!
>
> Thanks for the work on this, now, where's my coffee?
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 1, 2013 2:01:14 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:
>>
>> OK I wanted to give an update on this project.
>>
>> A new batch of pins has been ordered and I was given a 4 week delivery
>> time. Both previous orders arrived faster, but plan on the full 4. I am
>> awaiting my invoice to determine pricing adjustments.
>>
>> I have also sent the artwork for getting a quote on patches. Luckily they
>> do not have to be ordered in high quantity. Pricing and availability TBD.
>>
>> After a bunch of research it looks like Bigcartel is the perfect solution
>> for handling the orders. THANK YOU Brian (Benedikt) for that suggestion!!
>> Free pin for you!
>>
>> I am in the process of setting up the storefront and when the product
>> arrives, I will add the inventory and post the link here. Simple add to
>> cart and pay. I'll add patches if/when they happen.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen lapel pin UPDATE

[Tom Goodmann]

I love BSNYC; so right on. I mean, even if you hate it, you love hatin' it!
 A carrier for an 80 lb. child?!


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 7:38 PM, Peter Morgano wrote:

> Funny post on Coffee on BSNYC. Sorry for the potty humor for those more
> sensitve readers, but not really.
>
> http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:43 PM, Rusty Click  wrote:
>
>> I'm good for 3 pins, and 3 patches, if they come through!
>>
>> Thanks for the work on this, now, where's my coffee?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, March 1, 2013 2:01:14 PM UTC-5, jinxed wrote:
>>>
>>> OK I wanted to give an update on this project.
>>>
>>> A new batch of pins has been ordered and I was given a 4 week delivery
>>> time. Both previous orders arrived faster, but plan on the full 4. I am
>>> awaiting my invoice to determine pricing adjustments.
>>>
>>> I have also sent the artwork for getting a quote on patches. Luckily
>>> they do not have to be ordered in high quantity. Pricing and availability
>>> TBD.
>>>
>>> After a bunch of research it looks like Bigcartel is the perfect
>>> solution for handling the orders. THANK YOU Brian (Benedikt) for that
>>> suggestion!! Free pin for you!
>>>
>>> I am in the process of setting up the storefront and when the product
>>> arrives, I will add the inventory and post the link here. Simple add to
>>> cart and pay. I'll add patches if/when they happen.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Budget Riv? Still on the horizon?

[Adam]

I have a good friend in the process of starting a new company in San
Francisco. The prototype was featured in Manny's last photo set. It'll
be a well made steel frame with great clearances and may be a budget
option worth looking at.

www.mtntr.com

Hope that's helpful.
Adam

On Feb 20, 8:58 am, murphyjrfk  wrote:
> Does any one know if the budget riv is still being considered planned 
> anything? I hope so. And sooner rather than later.

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[RBW] Re: Steel in the Desert

[hsmitham]

Eric, really enjoyed that photo set. I love the Desert, and the ride up the 
395 from L.A. is one of my all time favorite road trips. Looks like you had 
great weather too. I know I'll  do that double century one of these days.

Best,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, March 4, 2013 12:31:37 PM UTC-8, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> fun photos and a great slide show
>
> On Monday, March 4, 2013 11:39:06 AM UTC-6, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Took my Riv-ish rando bike to the desert this past weekend for the Death 
>> Valley Double Century--200 miles in the lowest (but at least on this 
>> weekend not the hottest) place in the U.S.  Photos here prove it happened:
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157632911179197/show/
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> www.campyonly.com
>> campyonlyguy.blogspot.com 
>>
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Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[Tim McNamara]

I have a Ritchey Road "Classic" fillet brazed bike.  I bought it used after a 
decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the like.  The 
Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes.  Over the years I 
have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single pivot brakes, friction 
shifting, etc.  It weighs less than it did with Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s 
instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a versatile all-day-long bike.

The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey?  All-Rounder?  The 3 speed 
I designed and built?  Such terrible choices to have to make!  I can only ride 
one a a time.

Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in the 
Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc.  Simple and 
strong gets you there and back again more often than not.  I think that there 
is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of those rides posted by 
Ray Hosler.

Tim


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> In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom 
> Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of interest 
> to the list:
> 
> http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design
> 
> I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which "innovated" away 
> from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways "'innovating' back to 
> where we started." 
> 
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[RBW] FS SP PV-8 Wheel

[Kelly]

Sold pending.. Details

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[RBW] Columbia Slough

[Manuel Acosta]

Looks good Andy. Miss my old riding buddy hopefully I have time to get some 
riding in with you guys when I go up to visit.

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[RBW] My Favorite Saluki on the Bay

[Peter M]

Oh, to only have n+1 amount of dollars!!!


http://www.ebay.com/itm/60cm-Rivendell-Saluki-/271166514639?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3f22c8a5cf

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Re: [RBW] My Favorite Saluki on the Bay

[cyclotourist]

That's my favorite for them!


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> Oh, to only have n+1 amount of dollars!!!
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[cyclotourist]

Thanks Aaron, a very good read.


On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tim McNamara  wrote:

> I have a Ritchey Road "Classic" fillet brazed bike.  I bought it used
> after a decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the
> like.  The Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes.
>  Over the years I have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single
> pivot brakes, friction shifting, etc.  It weighs less than it did with
> Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a
> versatile all-day-long bike.
>
> The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey?  All-Rounder?  The 3
> speed I designed and built?  Such terrible choices to have to make!  I can
> only ride one a a time.
>
> Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in
> the Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc.
>  Simple and strong gets you there and back again more often than not.  I
> think that there is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of
> those rides posted by Ray Hosler.
>
> Tim
>
>
> On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
>
> In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of Tom
> Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of
> interest to the list:
>
>
> http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design
>
> I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which "innovated"
> away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways "'innovating'
> back to where we started."
>
> —Aaron
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Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[hsmitham]

Aaron thanks for a great read. I've always liked Tom Richey. I also agree 
with his thought that bikes are coming full circle back to wider tires and 
lots of innovations are just trends. Just recently mountain bikes were 
going with 29er's now I hear their going with 650b wheels? Pretty soon 
we'll be back to 26" wheels. 

Best,

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Monday, March 4, 2013 8:27:13 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Thanks Aaron, a very good read.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tim McNamara 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> I have a Ritchey Road "Classic" fillet brazed bike.  I bought it used 
>> after a decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the 
>> like.  The Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes. 
>>  Over the years I have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single 
>> pivot brakes, friction shifting, etc.  It weighs less than it did with 
>> Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a 
>> versatile all-day-long bike.
>>
>> The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey?  All-Rounder?  The 3 
>> speed I designed and built?  Such terrible choices to have to make!  I can 
>> only ride one a a time.
>>
>> Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in 
>> the Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc. 
>>  Simple and strong gets you there and back again more often than not.  I 
>> think that there is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of 
>> those rides posted by Ray Hosler.
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Aaron Thomas > 
>> wrote:
>>
>> In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of 
>> Tom Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of 
>> interest to the list:
>>
>>
>> http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design
>>
>> I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which "innovated" 
>> away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways "'innovating' 
>> back to where we started." 
>>
>> —Aaron
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[RBW] Re: Introduction

[Kellie Stapleton]

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On Sunday, March 3, 2013 8:08:40 PM UTC-8, Michael wrote:
>
> Congrats! Glad you are enjoying the bike. What size frame?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Introduction

[Kellie Stapleton]

Well actually the saddlebag is a Barley. It's not an iPhone, it's a Garmin 
800 which I've moved from the stem (in the pic) back to the handlebar. It 
was too slanted and couldn't read it in certain light.

On Monday, March 4, 2013 6:05:18 AM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Welcome to the list. I see that you have the prettiest of saddlebags 
> -- in color, shape, and proportions -- the green Nelson. 
>
> I also spy with my little eye an iPhone on your stem: please describe 
> the attaching device? The Topeak "rain sack" I have is less than 
> satisfactory. 
>
> On Sat, Mar 2, 2013 at 5:39 PM, Kellie Stapleton 
> > wrote: 
> > Just joined this group recently after picking up my new Hillborne from 
> RBW 
> > HQ the beginning of Feb. Love the atmosphere here, and my new bike. 
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[RBW] Re: WTB- Sugino XD2 Crank Triple (driveside)

[Adam]

Got one. Thanks!

On Mar 4, 8:58 am, William  wrote:
> Adam
>
> Sorry, but I can't help you.  I have a right side XD2 that is available,
> but it's 172.5mm and it's for a double.  I just purchased a 172.5mm triple
> right arm off the Rivendell garage sale table.  There were no other crank
> arms there when I snagged that one.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:01:09 PM UTC-8, Adam wrote:
>
> > Right. Found the length-170mm. Let me know if you have anything that might
> > fit the bill.
>
> > Thank you!
> > Adam
>
> > On Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:09:27 PM UTC-8, Adam wrote:
>
> >> Hey all,
>
> >> I've finally concluded that the incessant clicking on my pedal stoke has
> >> to do with my damaged drivetrain crank arm. I've tried pedal washers and
> >> tons of grease and still the clicking continues. For those that are
> >> wondering I've done a full process of elimination with bottom bracket and
> >> pedal possibilities.
>
> >> So...I need a new crank for my drive side. If anyone happens to have an
> >> extra single crank arm I'd love to purchase it. Otherwise also interested
> >> if anyone has a set. I have chainrings so am covered on that front. They
> >> measure 6.5 inches on the inside and 8 inches on the outside. Is that 
> >> 170mm?
>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Adam

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Re: [RBW] interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[Mike Schiller]

 Hugh, the very 1st MTB's that Ritchey made were orignally 
650b. http://www.flickr.com/photos/slonie/8008516231/in/faves-37347002@N05/
So we've come full circle. 
Off topic... but 29ers are here to stay for taller riders. The big wheels 
roll much better off road.  26" MTBs will gradually fade away except for 
kids's bikes.

~mike

On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:05:50 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Aaron thanks for a great read. I've always liked Tom Richey. I also agree 
> with his thought that bikes are coming full circle back to wider tires and 
> lots of innovations are just trends. Just recently mountain bikes were 
> going with 29er's now I hear their going with 650b wheels? Pretty soon 
> we'll be back to 26" wheels. 
>
> Best,
>
> Hugh
> Sunland, CA
>
> On Monday, March 4, 2013 8:27:13 PM UTC-8, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Aaron, a very good read.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tim McNamara wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Ritchey Road "Classic" fillet brazed bike.  I bought it used 
>>> after a decade or more on Italian road bike, Reparto Corsa Bianchis and the 
>>> like.  The Ritchey handles and responds better than any of those bikes. 
>>>  Over the years I have re-simplified it with down tube shifters, single 
>>> pivot brakes, friction shifting, etc.  It weighs less than it did with 
>>> Campy Chorus Ergo and, with 25s instead of 19-23 wide tires, it's a 
>>> versatile all-day-long bike.
>>>
>>> The problem comes when going for a ride... Ritchey?  All-Rounder?  The 3 
>>> speed I designed and built?  Such terrible choices to have to make!  I can 
>>> only ride one a a time.
>>>
>>> Ritchey's building philosophy came in part from years of Jobst rides in 
>>> the Santa Cruz mountains on fire roads, long climbs, hike-a-bikes, etc. 
>>>  Simple and strong gets you there and back again more often than not.  I 
>>> think that there is a slideshow video on YouTube from a number of years of 
>>> those rides posted by Ray Hosler.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 4, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Aaron Thomas  wrote:
>>>
>>> In light of Grant's recent Blug post, which mentioned the influence of 
>>> Tom Ritchey, this interview just published on Road Bike Review may be of 
>>> interest to the list:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://reviews.roadbikereview.com/2013-predictions-tom-ritchey-of-ritchey-design
>>>
>>> I particularly liked his quip that the bike industry, which "innovated" 
>>> away from clearances to run larger tires, is in some ways "'innovating' 
>>> back to where we started." 
>>>
>>> —Aaron
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>>
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[RBW] Re: My Favorite Saluki on the Bay

[William]

Very very hot

On Monday, March 4, 2013 7:40:40 PM UTC-8, Peter M wrote:
>
> Oh, to only have n+1 amount of dollars!!! 
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/60cm-Rivendell-Saluki-/271166514639?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item3f22c8a5cf
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Plastic Fenders and Hetres

[Daniel]

How did they work, Jim? The "29er" or the 26"?

On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:00:42 AM UTC-8, Jim M. wrote:

> Yes. 
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Daniel > 
> wrote: 
> > Has anyone tried the Planet Bike Cascadia with Hetres? 
> > 
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[RBW] Re: anyone have experience with the Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Grand Cru crank?

[Jon Doyle]

I have the Velo Orange 50.4 crank (first gen) on a Rawland rSogn. I've got 
15,000km on it and the non-anodized aluminum arms look nasty from my 
neglect. Functionally it's a great and low-cost way to try the wide-range 
gearing (cheaper than Sugino OXs).
You could probably use the 118 BB on your RB-1 with no issues; my mtbish 
frame required a 122.5 spindle.

Jon
Watertown, MA

On Monday, March 4, 2013 9:39:15 AM UTC-5, James Chang wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Thinking about this crank for a while in order to go sub compact.  This 
> will go on a 1993 RB-1 to replace the original Shimano 600 53/39.  Want to 
> get the collective wisdom on the Grand Cru 50.4 BCD 46/30.
>
> Also, does anyone know if I'm able to use the original/stock BB on the 
> RB-1?  Velo Orange seems to recommend a 118mm BB for the Grand Cru.  
>
> Thanks,
>
> James Chang 
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[RBW] Re: anyone have experience with the Velo Orange 50.4 BCD Grand Cru crank?

[whiskeyding]

I used a first gen for about 6 months; it got replaced by a White 
Industries VBC.  Setting up the front derailleur was a real pain (super 
tight crankarm clearances), and the stock chainrings had quite a bit of 
runout.  They also wore very quickly.  Replacing the stock rings with TA 
rings helped the runout problem, but it was not a cheap switch.  I seem to 
recall a stripping issue with the stock chainring bolts, but I may be 
misremembering.

Looking at the VO website, they claim to have addressed most of these 
issues.

I love my 44/28 (it lets me run a lightweight Dura-Ace 9sp 12-25 in the 
rear), and the White crank was the best option at the time.  If the Rene 
Herse crank had been available, I probably would have bought that instead.  
The White was about $160 dollars more than the Grand Cru, but after all the 
frustrations I had with getting the VO crank set up properly, I considered 
it money well spent.

If you do decide to get a 2nd gen Grand Cru crank, let us know how it goes!

Michael

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Re: [RBW] Front Rack ideas

[BenG]

Mark Abele confirmed it today - Nitto Highrider rack (Campee 35F).
That Atlantis also has a Nitto 33R on the back.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fender Questions

[Ojiisan]

Thanksfor this and all replies. Interesting and helpful. I post pix if/when 
successful. Ojiisan

On Friday, March 1, 2013 5:44:50 PM UTC-8, René wrote:
>
> For metal fenders, the recommendation is to use fenders that are at least 
> 10mm wider than the tires, although you can get away with a bit less. 
> Fenders are described in mm, while tires as you describe them are in 
> inches. Roughly, a 2.0 tire is 50mm, so you'd need a 60mm metal fender 
> (26x60). Metal fenders also seem to need more vertical clearance below the 
> crown than plastic fenders. I'd say that you probably want around 10mm of 
> vertical clearance, although you can get away with a bit less; the issue 
> here is having enough space between the tire and the nut if you mount them 
> with a daruma. If you use a bracket, then you can get away with less 
> clearance, at least in my experience.
>  
> I've mounted so many metal fenders on my bikes, that I now can do a much 
> better job; when I started, it took me almost a day for each fender as no 
> matter how closely I followed the instructions available online, there were 
> so many things I wasn't doing right and had to redo/undo. 
>  
> When doing my last metal fender installation (Berthoud steel fenders on my 
> Betty), the rear one went in very quickly, but the tight tolerances between 
> the front Hetre tire and the Betty's fork forced me to try so many 
> alternate ways, that it took several 4 hour evenings. I succeeded (details 
> in an older post) but the tolerances between the tire and the fenders are 
> probably less than ideal on the front.
>  
> René
>  
> René
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 9:44 PM, Michael 
> > wrote:
>
>> I think 40, 50, and 60, are the mm width ratings of the fender. So you 
>>> can tell what size tires will fit under it. The 26 would stand for the size 
>>> wheel that the fender is made for. So, 700 x 45, or 26 x 50, or 650b x 40, 
>>> etc.
>>>  
>>>
>> Somebody correct me if I am wrong. 
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[RBW] Re: interview with Ritchey on steel, gravel, wide tires and "innovation"

[Cyclofiend Jim]

Thanks for the pointer, Aaron!  Always worth ruminating on his thoughts and 
observations. 

I got a laugh out loud moment with "The argument for disc brakes is 
incompatible with the argument for lighter bikes and wheels."

- J

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