Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide

2013-06-21 Thread Brian Hanson
Get both, and extra cables. Change between them as the mood strikes you. 

Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Jun 20, 2013, at 4:46 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 I ride both, on bikes with very similiar dimensions (both riv's), they are 
 very different and both good. 
 
 the albas look less serious, but you can go pretty fast with them, the 
 upright position is comfortable, the curves allow you to stretch out a bit 
 and they are so wide (way wider then even the widest noodles), that you can 
 get plenty of leverage climbing.
 
 the noodles are great drop bars, no complaints, great ramps, comfortable over 
 time, it's just a different ride
 
  if you've been riding drops for a long time and just want to try something 
 different then you should try the albas.  short of testing them yourself it's 
 hard for us to really tell you one is better then the other.  
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[RBW] Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide

2013-06-21 Thread William R.
Hey Johnny. Just as the 48 Noodles were a revelation for me, the Alba's have 
been too more recently. I have the two different set ups on two different 
bikes. If you can't do two bikes then I agree with having the two cockpits set 
up for swapping out. It's a lot of fun switching back and forth. I ride similar 
routes all the time on both bikes and my ride time differences are negligable. 
Sometimes I am faster on the heavier Sam with Alba's so go figure. I've been 
enjoying my rides on the Alba'd Sam so much in fact, that I'm kicking myself 
for ever considering selling it. It's a blast. Did a pretty fast 90 mile ride 
on it a couple weeks ago. No problems. 

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[RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide

2013-06-21 Thread Michael Hechmer
I just swapped the drop bars on the stoker side of our tandem for Albs.  My 
wife had been complaining about both pubic chafing (many different saddles 
had no affect on this) and neck soreness.  I warned her that the Albs would 
put more pressure on her buns.  Results: Albs have fixed all the other 
problems but hurt her buns on on B17.

Switching between drops  Albs on her single doesn't look as easy. It will 
require new: stem, bars, brake levers, brake housing  cables, and grips or 
tape.  Time  money.  The even bigger solution would be to trade her 
classic Sequoia for a Betty.  More money.



On Thursday, June 20, 2013 2:47:26 PM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:

 So I am in the beginning stages of ordering up a Sam Hillborne and I am 
 really stuck on the handlebars. I have used drops pretty much my whole life 
 but did have a MB-1 equipped with Nitto Bullmoose bars and have used the 
 Albatross bars awhile ago and liked them. While this will be my only bike 
 the allure of the comfy Albatross is pulling me that way. It seems like I 
 will still have a few hand positions with them too. On the other hand I 
 also love the look of drops and are familiar with them. I do lots of trail 
 riding and some road riding as well. Will the Albatross be the wrong bars 
 for riding on the road? I am hoping someone here will say something to sway 
 me one way or the other. 

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[RBW] Re: Compass 26 tire vs. Soma New Express 26 tire.

2013-06-21 Thread Michael Hechmer
We use Marathon Racers, 1.6x26 on the tandem. These tires are lighter than 
the compass, have less tread and sell for less than the Compass.   I have 
Cerfs on the Ram and love them, but doubt we would gain anything by 
switching.

Michael

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:26:05 PM UTC-4, clayton wrote:

 I just did a picture comparison between the two. They have exactly the 
 same tread. Both are made in Japan. Both claim low rolling resistance. 
 Soma's are cheaper by about ten to 20 bucks and come in terracotta and 
 cream as well as black. I think Compass tires and the Somas are the same 
 tire, made by Panaracer. Does anyone know for sure?
 The terra cotta would look groovy on my olive green Atlantis.;)


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[RBW] Re: Compass 26 tire vs. Soma New Express 26 tire.

2013-06-21 Thread Matthew J
I do not have a 26 but did have the Soma Xpress 650Bs and a lot of 
experience with various Grand Bois tires from Compass. The express were 
good rolling tires and fun to ride.  Grand Bois definitely a step up in 
ride quality.  
 
Never had a flat on the Soma.  In three years I have had only one flat on 
my Grand Bois.

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[RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide

2013-06-21 Thread Ginz

I am a full Alba convert.  I was never comfortable on drops due to my short 
arms, short torso and low tolerance for the bent lower back and neck.  I am 
so comfortable on the Alba, even more so than the Moustache.  There are two 
considerations as I see it:
 
1) Alba is less suitable for rough, rocky mtb trails because my wrists are 
turned inward and my hands tend to slide forward when braking.  On gravel, 
fireroads, rolling trail, it is perfect.
 
2) It looks less serious, as you noted.
 
For me, only #1 is important and i keep a bike with a bullmoose as well as 
a dedicated hardtail mtb for trail riding because my local trails are very 
rocky, root-y with log-hops by the dozen.
 
Alba all the way!
 
Good Luck.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide

2013-06-21 Thread Michael Williams
Albas definitely look less serious,   makes people think you arent a real
cyclist.   Thats a good thing!!  -Mike

On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Ginz theg...@gmail.com wrote:


 I am a full Alba convert.  I was never comfortable on drops due to my
 short arms, short torso and low tolerance for the bent lower back and
 neck.  I am so comfortable on the Alba, even more so than the Moustache.
 There are two considerations as I see it:

 1) Alba is less suitable for rough, rocky mtb trails because my wrists are
 turned inward and my hands tend to slide forward when braking.  On gravel,
 fireroads, rolling trail, it is perfect.

 2) It looks less serious, as you noted.

 For me, only #1 is important and i keep a bike with a bullmoose as well as
 a dedicated hardtail mtb for trail riding because my local trails are very
 rocky, root-y with log-hops by the dozen.

 Alba all the way!

 Good Luck.

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread René Sterental
One last detail. I did that conversion on my Hunqapillar but the wide chain 
stays for the extra clearance for wider tires forced me to go to a wider BB as 
the 40 new middle ring was almost touching the outside of the chain stay. 


Ended up going to a wider 113mm BB and a 24/38/bash guard, but the 40 fits 
well. 



You should probably be OK on the Sam.  

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On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv jayin...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Thank you everyone for all the input. I will definitely pick up a 40 tooth 
 ring when I am in the US next month. Maybe the bash guard too.
 Jay
 On Thursday, June 20, 2013 5:43:46 PM UTC+3, Ginz wrote:


 Thanks for the input.  I guess I spend most of my time on the inner cogs 
 anyway.  I could probably get by with even a 26/40 with a 13-28 on my 
 everyday bike.
  
  

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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Jayme Frye
So cool that this topic has come up. I just spec'd 40/26 with 12-23 9 speed 
cassette for my new Rawland Stag build. I've never used this combo before 
but came to this decision based on Grant's comments and some soul 
searching. I really monitored what gearing I regularly use on the same 
route using a compact double 48/34 and the same 12-23 cassette. Even with 
this the 48 ring kept me in the larger three rear cogs at the cadence I 
want to sustain for 30+ miles. Using the gear calc tool here (
http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.sherman/shift.html?R0=26R1=40R2=NaNC0=12C1=13C2=14C3=15C4=16C5=17C6=19C7=21C8=23C9=999C10=999CAS=0WI=13CR=170RT=1ST=0RPM=90SRT=0lRPM=60hRMP=100G=showS=yesTITLE=Xd2HL=1)
  
I compared various combinations until I found one that gets me closer to 
the middle of the cassette on the big ring pushing between 70 and 80 gear 
inches at 80-90 RPM.

Jayme

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 2:21:23 PM UTC-5, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote:

 I'm intrigued by Grant's idea of 40-26 front gearing for my Sam Hillborne, 
 but Riv is out of their wide-low cranks and there's actually nothing wrong 
 with Sugino triple that's on there now. So I was wondering if it would be 
 possible to just replace the middle ring with a 40, and either replace the 
 outer ring with a bash guard or just leave it as is. Would the Tiagra 
 triple derailler I have on there work well with this configuration? 
 Obviously I could reset the limit screw to restrict its range to the inner 
 and middle rings. But could I also lower the mounting position to match the 
 middle ring? Or would the outer ring be in the way?

 If it works, this would be a neat way to try out wide-low gearing for the 
 price of 1 chain ring. Thoughts?

 Jay




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[RBW] Rivish Spots Around Downtown Seattle?

2013-06-21 Thread Christopher Chen
I'll be in Seattle tomorrow from 4 to 6 and was wondering if there be any
Rivish places to drop by. All the places I know are up towards UW.

cc

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[RBW] WTB: 54cm or so Riv or Riv-ish bike

2013-06-21 Thread Jeremy
A good friend of mine just had his Trek touring bike stolen from his 
garage.  Insurance is paying out, but as he's a hospital chaplin, he's not 
flush with the moneys.

He's looking for a 54 or 56cm Rivvy bike.  Local to Oakland CA is better, 
of course.  Touring oriented trumps the Hunqa.

A Hilborne would be damn near perfect, if an AHH doesn't pop up.




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[RBW] Re: So. Cal Vs North Cal. Rivendell Rumble. July 27- 28

2013-06-21 Thread dougP
Manny:

Thanks for setting this up.  I look forward to meeting you  others from up 
north.  It'll be a great weekend.  

Being a weekend, we should reserve a campsite(s).  Now is a good time for 
possible participants to chime in.  El Chorro's info is a bit vague, saying 
6-8 people per campsite.  They will also not take a reservation inside of 
a month before arrival, so we'd to make one by next Thursday.  

All aboard!  

dougP

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:20:43 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 After a couple of weeks of hashing out the details looks like we have come 
 to a consensus of what's going on.

 Rivendell Rumble (Cali Edition)
 July 27-28
 Meet at El Chorro campgrounds around 12ish. 

 Various of folks are coming earlier or later feel free to do what cha want.

 Ride somewhere on that Sunday. 
 Bring food, stories, and your bikes to share. 
 Should be a blast!

 Anyone want to make a poster of the event I am more then happy to donate 
 one of my photos for a event poster.

 Also someone needs to add this to the RBW owners bunch calendar. (Totally 
 forgot the link)

 Let me know if this looks right.



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Re: [RBW] Rivish Spots Around Downtown Seattle?

2013-06-21 Thread James Warren
Elliot Bay Cycles

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On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:37 AM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

 I'll be in Seattle tomorrow from 4 to 6 and was wondering if there be any 
 Rivish places to drop by. All the places I know are up towards UW.
 
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Re: [RBW] Rivish Spots Around Downtown Seattle?

2013-06-21 Thread Brian Hanson
Check out Free Range Cycles in Fremont.  I would try to meet you for a coffee, 
but I'm actually in Rivendell (San Fran) country tomorrow.

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/local/103881115136976357546/about?gl=UShl=en-US


Brian Hanson
Seattle, WA

On Jun 21, 2013, at 12:37 AM, Christopher Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

 I'll be in Seattle tomorrow from 4 to 6 and was wondering if there be any 
 Rivish places to drop by. All the places I know are up towards UW.
 
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 54cm or so Riv or Riv-ish bike

2013-06-21 Thread Peter Morgano
Hunqapillar isn't a touring bike? I guess my bombadil is for downhill time
trials. :-)
On Jun 21, 2013 11:22 AM, Jeremy smith.jer...@gmail.com wrote:

 A good friend of mine just had his Trek touring bike stolen from his
 garage.  Insurance is paying out, but as he's a hospital chaplin, he's not
 flush with the moneys.

 He's looking for a 54 or 56cm Rivvy bike.  Local to Oakland CA is better,
 of course.  Touring oriented trumps the Hunqa.

 A Hilborne would be damn near perfect, if an AHH doesn't pop up.




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[RBW] Re: So. Cal Vs North Cal. Rivendell Rumble. July 27- 28

2013-06-21 Thread allenmichael
I'll be there on Sat. from SF (outer-Richmond). Willing to carpool if 
anyone is interested. I have a gas-sipping Prius and a bike rack that holds 
two bikes.

Michael Allen

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:20:43 PM UTC-7, Manuel Acosta wrote:

 After a couple of weeks of hashing out the details looks like we have come 
 to a consensus of what's going on.

 Rivendell Rumble (Cali Edition)
 July 27-28
 Meet at El Chorro campgrounds around 12ish. 

 Various of folks are coming earlier or later feel free to do what cha want.

 Ride somewhere on that Sunday. 
 Bring food, stories, and your bikes to share. 
 Should be a blast!

 Anyone want to make a poster of the event I am more then happy to donate 
 one of my photos for a event poster.

 Also someone needs to add this to the RBW owners bunch calendar. (Totally 
 forgot the link)

 Let me know if this looks right.



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[RBW] Re: fs: Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frameset - orange - pristine condition!

2013-06-21 Thread allenmichael
Eric,
I am super interested. I have desired an Orange Riv for a long time. I 
don't have any of the suggested trades but $1100 seems very fair for the 
bike and condition. Where are you located? I am in SF. I would need to sell 
my S1, but I could come up with the money first and then make it up with 
the sale of the S1.

Michael

On Thursday, June 20, 2013 6:39:16 PM UTC-7, Eric wrote:

 Pristine condition Rivendell Rambouillet...comes with original box! I'm 
 not sure who'd get excited about the original box but I'm sure there's a 
 few folks. I purchased this early '12 (or late '11) via CL and it's in 
 amazing condition! The prior owner stated a few hundred miles  it shows! I 
 never built it up but kept it safely tucked away. Apart from the protective 
 clear stickers on the headtube  bike shop decal on downtube (both of which 
 can be removed w/ no problem) it's next to mint. Anyways, they don't make 
 'em like this anymore. Frame, fork  headset (I believe Tange Levin?). 

 $1100 or trade for a dark blue (or custom color) 59cm Rivendell A. Homer 
 Hilsen w/ three water bottle mounts.

 http://imageshack.us/a/img213/1333/68619147.jpg
 http://imageshack.us/a/img717/5194/62784123.jpg
 http://imageshack.us/a/img266/9954/a16x.jpg


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[RBW] FS: Rich-Built, 26 Rohloff Wheel on Silver Velocity Chukker

2013-06-21 Thread allenmichael
I had Rich build this for a Big Dummy that I did not use very much. I sold 
the frame but kept the wheel, thinking that I would put it on another bike. 
That hasn't happened, and I'm ready to let go. I'm hoping to raise money 
for another bike.

The Rohloff Hub has a quick release and is for rim brakes. You can have 
Rohloff rebuild it for discs but it costs a few hundred to do this. 16T 
cog. OEM 2 plate is included. I think this is the internal shifting.

Wheel has very little use.

I paid about $1300 for the hub and somewhere about $200 for the build.  I 
would like to get pretty near $1000 back. Not at all desperate to sell. 
Might still use it someday. Local sale in SF is greatly preferred. 

Not sure how to post pics but can send on request.

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[RBW] Get on your bike or the rise of the unracer

2013-06-21 Thread bwphoto

I ran across this from the London Cyclist a great example of promoting the 
unracer or just riding. Admittedly it does take place during a race but 
the end tells it all. Here's the link: 
http://ibikelondon.blogspot.com/2013/06/get-on-your-bike.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki love tires

2013-06-21 Thread Toshi Takeuchi
I've seen Hetres on a fendered A Homer Hilson and it fit, but boy did it
not have much wiggle room.  My comfort zone suggests having a pencil width
of space between the tire and the fender, while the Hetre I saw would be
lucky to have half a pencil width. I would go with William's suggestion of
using Lierre tires if I really wanted something with more tread than the
Pari Moto, but YMMV.

Good luck!
Toshi



On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:43 PM, jeffrey kane jsk_onl...@mac.com wrote:

 Hetres will fit your Saluki front + back just fine. Fenders, on the other
 hand, can be an issue. VO makes a few sizes ... you'll want to measure
 yours first to be sure ... look for at last 52mm inside across the span. I
 use 50mm SS Berthoud's (via Mike Kone's online store) on both a Saluki and
 a Bleriot. There's some trade off in coverage but no problems with fit
 anywhere.


 On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:33:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I am loving my new Saluki with Pari- Moto tires.  What a blend of comfort
  performance!  But I am also looking ahead and wondering if the Heters
 will fit under the VO Al fenders.  It looks like a kinda tight fit.  Any
 experience?

 Michael†

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[RBW] Re: Get on your bike or the rise of the unracer

2013-06-21 Thread Matt Beebe
Loved it!



On Friday, June 21, 2013 3:54:45 PM UTC-4, bwphoto wrote:


 I ran across this from the London Cyclist a great example of promoting the 
 unracer or just riding. Admittedly it does take place during a race but 
 the end tells it all. Here's the link: 
 http://ibikelondon.blogspot.com/2013/06/get-on-your-bike.html


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[RBW] Big Bike Ride Round Town - steel bikes prominently displayed

2013-06-21 Thread cyclotourist
The city of Redlands has in concept a green-belt/open-space surrounding the
city called the Emerald Necklace. I say concept as it's very piecemeal. In
places it's perfect trail, others right of way with utility lines, others
nonexistent. Local buddy Jonathan and I tried to ride it this morning. We
ended up doing a bit under 30, and the complete route would be about 40
miles, mostly on dirt. As this was an exploratory ride, we didn't know what
to expect. A few portage sections due to construction, re-routing a bit due
to fences, and significant time spent patching tubes due to goat heads. But
a wonderful day nonetheless (how could it not be)!

PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157634249915135

and map: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/redlands-emerald-neckalce

If I can get this dialed in, it will mostly likely be a SoCal Riv Ride (tm)
sometime in the spring, so mark your calendars!


Cheers,
David

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rich-Built, 26 Rohloff Wheel on Silver Velocity Chukker

2013-06-21 Thread allenmichael
sold

On Friday, June 21, 2013 10:45:17 AM UTC-7, allenmichael wrote:

 I had Rich build this for a Big Dummy that I did not use very much. I sold 
 the frame but kept the wheel, thinking that I would put it on another bike. 
 That hasn't happened, and I'm ready to let go. I'm hoping to raise money 
 for another bike.

 The Rohloff Hub has a quick release and is for rim brakes. You can have 
 Rohloff rebuild it for discs but it costs a few hundred to do this. 16T 
 cog. OEM 2 plate is included. I think this is the internal shifting.

 Wheel has very little use.

 I paid about $1300 for the hub and somewhere about $200 for the build.  I 
 would like to get pretty near $1000 back. Not at all desperate to sell. 
 Might still use it someday. Local sale in SF is greatly preferred. 

 Not sure how to post pics but can send on request.


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[RBW] Simple One, 58cm, Maroon Proto-version, $1250

2013-06-21 Thread allenmichael
Not the entire bike but most-all of it. I'm keeping the saddle, seat post, 
racks, and tires. F/F/hs, wheel set with Phil hubs, White Industries Eno 
Freewheel and Crank. Sugino fixed cog and more.

Used for about a year's worth of commuting from the beach to downtown in SF.

Put it up on local craigslist and would prefer a local sale.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/3886384734.html

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[RBW] Smokey Lost Creek Family 2 Nighter

2013-06-21 Thread Deacon Patrick
We drove to Lost Creek Campground in Lost Creek Wilderness and did a few day 
rides and hikes on this two night trip to the landscape deeply effected by the 
Haymen Fire back in 2002. I was planning on riding out this morning to avoid 
the washboard fun in the car (since the bike is much easier to avoid the 
washboard), but the smoke from current fires in SW Colorado made the steep 
climbing breathing challenging and cut it short. Burned trees on this scale 
smell like fields of fresh vanilla 11 years later. Not sure if that is the 
combination of the brunt pine (live pine smell like either chocolate, vanilla 
or strawberry. Seriously. Stick your nose on up and sniff some time.) and the 
abundant wildflowers that grow there now they've gotten out from under the 
shadow of the pine forest.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634250810793/

With abandon,
Patrick

www.MindYourHeadCoop.org
www.OurHolyConception.org

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[RBW] Re: Rivish Spots Around Downtown Seattle?

2013-06-21 Thread Rory C
Elliot Bay Bicycles:
http://elliottbaybicycles.com/
 

On Friday, June 21, 2013 12:37:39 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I'll be in Seattle tomorrow from 4 to 6 and was wondering if there be any 
 Rivish places to drop by. All the places I know are up towards UW. 

 cc


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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread BenG
Couple years ago i pulled the outer ring off my XD2 triple and put on a 
guard, leaving the 36-24 middle and inner rings as-is.  The 36 was plenty 
high for me with 11 cog on 8spd cassette, and I could get to all the 
combos.  New Hillborne runs guarded 40-26 with 12-34 8spd, and that's 
great, too (I do like the 40-26/12-34 better, though). I learned that a 
slightly longer bottom bracket can improve reliability of front shifts to 
low gear by moving it farther from the innermost spring travel position of 
the front derailer. With no third ring hanging out there to be concerned 
about reaching with the derailer, you can afford it now.
Ben

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

2013-06-21 Thread bo richardson
My green rambouillet has rack braze ons
and braze ons in front for the fenders
 
Bo Richardson
Bellingham

On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, Stmike wrote:

 Selling my as new Rivendell Rambouillet 58 cm bicycle. It has less than 
 250 miles on it and is in perfect condition. It is the beautiful forest 
 green color with white accents. It is built with the following componentry:
 Brooks saddle B.17 Steel/Honey
 Ultegra STI
 Ultegra rear derailer
 Ultegra 9 speed cassette
 Nitto seat post, handlebars, bottle cage
 and I'll throw in a Nigel Smythe tweed handlebar bag (pictured).
 Let me know if you'd like specific photos. 
 $1500.


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-rDsWC6aF-FY/Ub-GZiEP_2I/AAo/m6cf6zIJp4M/s1600/DSCF0088.JPG



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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki love tires

2013-06-21 Thread Steve Palincsar
Or, put the wider fender that Compass sells on the Saluki.  That's what I did 
with mine when I put Hetres on.  I did have to trim the bottom front edge of 
the back fender to get it to fit between the chainstays.  I've got photos on my 
flickr site showing what I did.

- Original Message -
From: Toshi Takeuchi tto...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 5:04:32 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki love  tires


I've seen Hetres on a fendered A Homer Hilson and it fit, but boy did it not 
have much wiggle room.  My comfort zone suggests having a pencil width of space 
between the tire and the fender, while the Hetre I saw would be lucky to have 
half a pencil width. I would go with William's suggestion of using Lierre tires 
if I really wanted something with more tread than the Pari Moto, but YMMV. 
  
Good luck! 
Toshi 


  
On Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 8:43 PM, jeffrey kane  jsk_onl...@mac.com  wrote: 


Hetres will fit your Saluki front + back just fine. Fenders, on the other hand, 
can be an issue. VO makes a few sizes ... you'll want to measure yours first to 
be sure ... look for at last 52mm inside across the span. I use 50mm SS 
Berthoud's (via Mike Kone's online store) on both a Saluki and a Bleriot. 
There's some trade off in coverage but no problems with fit anywhere. 



On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 6:33:23 PM UTC-4, Michael Hechmer wrote: 

I am loving my new Saluki with Pari- Moto tires.  What a blend of comfort  
performance!  But I am also looking ahead and wondering if the Heters will fit 
under the VO Al fenders.  It looks like a kinda tight fit.  Any experience? 


Michael† 

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[RBW] Re: Big Bike Ride Round Town - steel bikes prominently displayed

2013-06-21 Thread dougP
The goatheads even got to those knobbies!  Tough buggers.  Need to schedule 
that ride for later winter before the tumbleweeds blossom.  Looks like some 
turf we've wandered around before.  Be fun to do the whole loop.  

dougP

On Friday, June 21, 2013 2:42:24 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 The city of Redlands has in concept a green-belt/open-space surrounding 
 the city called the Emerald Necklace. I say concept as it's very piecemeal. 
 In places it's perfect trail, others right of way with utility lines, 
 others nonexistent. Local buddy Jonathan and I tried to ride it this 
 morning. We ended up doing a bit under 30, and the complete route would be 
 about 40 miles, mostly on dirt. As this was an exploratory ride, we didn't 
 know what to expect. A few portage sections due to construction, re-routing 
 a bit due to fences, and significant time spent patching tubes due to goat 
 heads. But a wonderful day nonetheless (how could it not be)!

 PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157634249915135

 and map: http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/redlands-emerald-neckalce

 If I can get this dialed in, it will mostly likely be a SoCal Riv Ride 
 (tm) sometime in the spring, so mark your calendars!


 Cheers,
 David

  

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[RBW] Standard Moustache on Clearance Bits page at RBW. Get it while you can.

2013-06-21 Thread Michael
It says, while supplies last at the bottom of description. But the price 
is still the same $88 bucks.
 
I guess with the new Albastache they aren't going to carry the standard 
'stache anymore? Or maybe not order anymore from Nitto for a while?
 

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[RBW] Re: Rivish Spots Around Downtown Seattle?

2013-06-21 Thread bo richardson
Macrina's bakery has several locations including Belltown and Queen Anne 
Hill.
Queen Anne is quieter and neighborhoodier but coming from Fremont to Queen 
Anne
I could never keep the front wheel on the ground. coffee and pastry are 
world class.
Honore five blocks north of Ballard High School is different but equally 
beyond compare.that would be 70th and twelfth NE.
 
Bike shop,  Elliot Bay and Free Range are nice and also Wright Brothers in 
Fremont is
Old School and used to be a bicycle Co op and technically still is sorta. 
The gentleman who runs the shop  competes with the UW  on Irish History so 
dont get him started if you dont have an hour and a half.
If you want a full campi aniversary grupo and are willing to pay for it, 
that is where to start.
 
If you want to ride the Burke Gillman is still the best unless you want to 
hammer.
 
The nice place to sit and look at people and bikes is probably the Bauhaus 
on lower Capital Hill  on Pike just up from the freeway overpass. Coffee is 
perfect pastry is much less so. It gets nice sun in the four to six time 
slot
another nice place to ride is from Western Avenue downtown up the trail 
towards Ballard. There is a statuary park just down from the Olde 
Spagehetti Factory  and the trail goes north from there.
 
Bo from Bellingham
I was down in seattle this week and these were the things i did and pretty 
much always do when i am there

On Friday, June 21, 2013 12:37:39 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I'll be in Seattle tomorrow from 4 to 6 and was wondering if there be any 
 Rivish places to drop by. All the places I know are up towards UW. 

 cc


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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Bike Ride Round Town - steel bikes prominently displayed

2013-06-21 Thread cyclotourist
Many pieces, but now need to string them together!

Cheers,
David



On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 5:44 PM, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:

 The goatheads even got to those knobbies!  Tough buggers.  Need to
 schedule that ride for later winter before the tumbleweeds blossom.  Looks
 like some turf we've wandered around before.  Be fun to do the whole loop.

 dougP


 On Friday, June 21, 2013 2:42:24 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:

 The city of Redlands has in concept a green-belt/open-space surrounding
 the city called the Emerald Necklace. I say concept as it's very piecemeal.
 In places it's perfect trail, others right of way with utility lines,
 others nonexistent. Local buddy Jonathan and I tried to ride it this
 morning. We ended up doing a bit under 30, and the complete route would be
 about 40 miles, mostly on dirt. As this was an exploratory ride, we didn't
 know what to expect. A few portage sections due to construction, re-routing
 a bit due to fences, and significant time spent patching tubes due to goat
 heads. But a wonderful day nonetheless (how could it not be)!

 PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/sets/**
 72157634249915135http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157634249915135

 and map: http://www.bikely.com/maps/**bike-path/redlands-emerald-**
 neckalce http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/redlands-emerald-neckalce

 If I can get this dialed in, it will mostly likely be a SoCal Riv Ride
 (tm) sometime in the spring, so mark your calendars!


 Cheers,
 David

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[RBW] Re: Standard Moustache on Clearance Bits page at RBW. Get it while you can.

2013-06-21 Thread BSWP
I read: in stock but discontinued, while supplies last 

I guess the new one is that much better.

- Andrew, Berkeley

On Friday, June 21, 2013 6:05:59 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 It says, while supplies last at the bottom of description. But the price 
 is still the same $88 bucks.
  
 I guess with the new Albastache they aren't going to carry the standard 
 'stache anymore? Or maybe not order anymore from Nitto for a while?
  


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[RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Ben,

Your comment about spindle length is interesting. My LBS went with the 113 
specified by Sugino and I have no problem shifting to the smaller ring. It 
does sometimes take me 2 tries to get into the big one though. My 
understanding is that going up is just a harder shift, but now I wonder if 
BB length isn't part of it too. 

Jay

On Friday, June 21, 2013 11:40:02 PM UTC+3, BenG wrote:

 Couple years ago i pulled the outer ring off my XD2 triple and put on a 
 guard, leaving the 36-24 middle and inner rings as-is.  The 36 was plenty 
 high for me with 11 cog on 8spd cassette, and I could get to all the 
 combos.  New Hillborne runs guarded 40-26 with 12-34 8spd, and that's 
 great, too (I do like the 40-26/12-34 better, though). I learned that a 
 slightly longer bottom bracket can improve reliability of front shifts to 
 low gear by moving it farther from the innermost spring travel position of 
 the front derailer. With no third ring hanging out there to be concerned 
 about reaching with the derailer, you can afford it now.
 Ben



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[RBW] Re: Standard Moustache on Clearance Bits page at RBW. Get it while you can.

2013-06-21 Thread justinaugust
It seems like they're setting themselves up to only carry items that are 
in-house designs. Smart move and a great way to differentiate themselves 
similar to other boutique bike outfits. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki love tires

2013-06-21 Thread justinaugust
I have VO Zeppelins with Hetres on mine. Side pull. No problems. 

-J

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki love tires

2013-06-21 Thread Peter Morgano
I ran the same set up, no issues.


On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 11:08 PM, justinaug...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have VO Zeppelins with Hetres on mine. Side pull. No problems.

 -J

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[RBW] FS: Carradice Barley Saddlebag-SQR Rack

2013-06-21 Thread Ryan Ray
Would you take a black camper longflap in trade?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Carradice Barley Saddlebag-SQR Rack

2013-06-21 Thread Kellie Stapleton
ALL sold!

On Monday, June 17, 2013 5:45:02 PM UTC-7, Kellie Stapleton wrote:

 Almost new, barely used, in excellent condition a Carradice Barley 
 Saddlebag (green with honey straps) and SQR rack (attaches to seat post, 
 quick release). Love it but not big enough for all I have to carry to work 
 when commuting. Will sell separately. Barley lists for $109, SQR is $66 at 
 Wallbike. Asking $90 for Barley and $50 for rack, plus shipping unless we 
 can rendezvous.

 Contact: Kellie @:  kl...@me.com


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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Patrick Moore
My Sam came with a 113 and the XD2 triple, and with an LX fd  it all worked
perfectly. When I transferred the bb, crankset, and fd to the wider stayed
Fargo, it continued to work perfectly (well, except for sucking the chain
when the chain was dirty, but throw was never a problem). I now use the
same 113 and LX with the now-double XD2, now a Bashguard/38/24, and still
it works fine. In all 3 applications the fd had throw room to spare.

What fds are y'all using who have this problem?

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 Ben,

 Your comment about spindle length is interesting. My LBS went with the 113
 specified by Sugino and I have no problem shifting to the smaller ring. It
 does sometimes take me 2 tries to get into the big one though. My
 understanding is that going up is just a harder shift, but now I wonder if
 BB length isn't part of it too.

 Jay

 On Friday, June 21, 2013 11:40:02 PM UTC+3, BenG wrote:

 Couple years ago i pulled the outer ring off my XD2 triple and put on a
 guard, leaving the 36-24 middle and inner rings as-is.  The 36 was plenty
 high for me with 11 cog on 8spd cassette, and I could get to all the
 combos.  New Hillborne runs guarded 40-26 with 12-34 8spd, and that's
 great, too (I do like the 40-26/12-34 better, though). I learned that a
 slightly longer bottom bracket can improve reliability of front shifts to
 low gear by moving it farther from the innermost spring travel position of
 the front derailer. With no third ring hanging out there to be concerned
 about reaching with the derailer, you can afford it now.
 Ben

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Re: [RBW] Re: DIY 40-26 questions

2013-06-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
Not a problem, just something which requires a bit of attention. 
FD is Shimano Tiagra.

On Saturday, June 22, 2013 7:13:03 AM UTC+3, Patrick Moore wrote:

 My Sam came with a 113 and the XD2 triple, and with an LX fd  it all 
 worked perfectly. When I transferred the bb, crankset, and fd to the wider 
 stayed Fargo, it continued to work perfectly (well, except for sucking the 
 chain when the chain was dirty, but throw was never a problem). I now use 
 the same 113 and LX with the now-double XD2, now a Bashguard/38/24, and 
 still it works fine. In all 3 applications the fd had throw room to spare.

 What fds are y'all using who have this problem?

 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 8:52 PM, Jay in Tel Aviv 
 jayi...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 Ben,

 Your comment about spindle length is interesting. My LBS went with the 
 113 specified by Sugino and I have no problem shifting to the smaller ring. 
 It does sometimes take me 2 tries to get into the big one though. My 
 understanding is that going up is just a harder shift, but now I wonder if 
 BB length isn't part of it too. 

 Jay

 On Friday, June 21, 2013 11:40:02 PM UTC+3, BenG wrote:

 Couple years ago i pulled the outer ring off my XD2 triple and put on a 
 guard, leaving the 36-24 middle and inner rings as-is.  The 36 was plenty 
 high for me with 11 cog on 8spd cassette, and I could get to all the 
 combos.  New Hillborne runs guarded 40-26 with 12-34 8spd, and that's 
 great, too (I do like the 40-26/12-34 better, though). I learned that a 
 slightly longer bottom bracket can improve reliability of front shifts to 
 low gear by moving it farther from the innermost spring travel position of 
 the front derailer. With no third ring hanging out there to be concerned 
 about reaching with the derailer, you can afford it now.
 Ben

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[RBW] Re: Big Bike Ride Round Town - steel bikes prominently displayed

2013-06-21 Thread Mike Schiller
lets wait until it's really green... in spring.  And maybe you can remove 
all those nasty puncture vine plants too.

~mike


  

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[RBW] Carradice

2013-06-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I commute with a Super C saddle bag and quick release Bagman. I've had this 
setup for a few years and it works well for me, but I needed a convenient 
way to use the bag on my 2nd bike. So I got a 2nd Bagman (clamp only) which 
I now use with a rear rack on the Riv, and moved the 1st Bagman to my 
Brompton. 

Long story short, a couple months ago one of the pins that activates the 
Q/R fell out on the Riv bagman. Marguerite at Carradice kindly sent me 2 
replacements, the second of which fell off last week. I updated Margeurite 
asking what my options were - Kelly's sale had me thinking about SQR as an 
alternative. I started checking prices on the web (Wiggle) when Marguerite 
replied that a replacement clamp is on its way.

Nice.

Jay

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[RBW] Anyone done a metric century or longer on Albas?

2013-06-21 Thread Michael
How do you like them for these long rides?
 
I have some on my Sam now but haven't gone on any long rides yet. Was 
wondering.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross or Noodles - Help Me Decide

2013-06-21 Thread Jay in Tel Aviv
I use v-brakes on my Sam, and was never very happy with the Tektro v-brake 
for road bar levers I had been using the Noodles. Albas let me use proper 
v-brake levers, $20 Avids in my case, which make a huge difference. Could 
be a consideration depending on what brake style you like.

Jay

On Friday, June 21, 2013 5:43:21 PM UTC+3, Michael Williams wrote:

 Albas definitely look less serious,   makes people think you arent a 
 real cyclist.   Thats a good thing!!  -Mike

 On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 6:57 AM, Ginz the...@gmail.com javascript:wrote:


 I am a full Alba convert.  I was never comfortable on drops due to my 
 short arms, short torso and low tolerance for the bent lower back and 
 neck.  I am so comfortable on the Alba, even more so than the Moustache.  
 There are two considerations as I see it:
  
 1) Alba is less suitable for rough, rocky mtb trails because my wrists 
 are turned inward and my hands tend to slide forward when braking.  On 
 gravel, fireroads, rolling trail, it is perfect.
  
 2) It looks less serious, as you noted.
  
 For me, only #1 is important and i keep a bike with a bullmoose as well 
 as a dedicated hardtail mtb for trail riding because my local trails are 
 very rocky, root-y with log-hops by the dozen.
  
 Alba all the way!
  
 Good Luck.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Big Bike Ride Round Town - steel bikes prominently displayed

2013-06-21 Thread cyclotourist
Really green is good. These are emeralds in training.

We think we figured out where they were located. Will tip-toe over that
section!



Cheers,
David



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 lets wait until it's really green... in spring.  And maybe you can remove
 all those nasty puncture vine plants too.

 ~mike


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