[RBW] Bottom Bracket Changes
You could try some thin brass shim stock (0.001). I'd only try this if you can't afford new cranks or a different BB. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] A visit to Rivendell world headquarters
Drove up from San Diego to Walnut Creek and stopped in at Rivendell. Kevin helped me with some ideas to carry stuff on the bike. Ended up spending less than I had in mind. What a wonderful experience. We are know ready for twelve days of bike camping and exploration from San Francisco to points north. Tonight is at a friends house. Wednesday will be spent about 30 miles away at another friends house. We will be riding with camping gear for the following days. Ride safe, Curtis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Bottom Bracket Changes
Thanks To all. Many good points I hadn't considered. Of course I'm embarrassed that I'd forgotten the first step in the Standard Bicycle Diagnostic Flowchart, check Sheldon's website! Joe, A shiny new crank is on its way. Thanks again, ride safe On Monday, July 15, 2013 7:38:22 PM UTC-4, MattB wrote: As an introduction, I'm a blissed out owner of what may be the only (?) Hilborne Orange Atlantis. My rideable stable has diminished to the point that I only have my Atlantis in running condition and I haven't really found it to be a problem, it seems to be the only bike I want to get on and ride anyway; ref to earlier post regarding whether or not you could live with just one bike. To get to the point, the original bottom bracket I installed in the Atlantis has finally given up. I don't know how many miles, I gave up odometers when I built this bike, but it has served me well over the last few years. I ordered a replacement, the original was the Tange cartridge that Riv used to carry, and I received a Shimano BB-UN55. I've always had good luck with Shimano so I replaced the Tange. I installed my cranks, Sugino XD2, on the new Shimano spindle and I have found that I cannot get the cranks to seat well. Plenty of the creaking and snapping that I've always associated with square taper cranks not fully installed or seated well. My question is this, does anyone know of any differences between the taper of the Shimano and Tange spindles? I always thought a JIS taper is a JIS taper and just about any JIS crank would fit well on any JIS spindle. The cranks are not new, in fact may be pretty worn, so I thought this may have been the cause. Do square taper cranks take a set with respect to the spindle they are installed on originally and then possibly not seat well on a different spindle when re-installed? Thanks for any insight, ride safely -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Phone mount
Hi Joe, Topeak makes a metal phone mount that can be bolted directly on to the stem. You can then buy a Topeak phone sleeve thingy that's appropriate for your phone. I've seen it for the iPhone but not sure about the HTC EVO. A very solid setup. James Chang On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, I know I should be a purist and stay off my phone while riding, but that's not what happens. I send/receive texts, and occasionally tweet a picture along the way (you'd be surprised how much folks enjoy coming along for a bike ride via Twitter). I do a lot of stop/start to fish my Android out of my Baggins Candybar bag, and I'm thinking a proper phone mount on the bars would be nice. Anybody know of good ones that'll hold an HTC EVO 4LTE? Thanks, Joe Bernard Vallejo, CA. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *** club sandwich, not seal *** -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Rivish bike for kid or 5' tall person in Seattle
Put my wife's '87 Specialized Hard Rock on CL. It's not lugged, but it is steel. No real interest for 2 weeks. Seems a shame to break it up for parts. I'd like to see a kid get this ideally. 24 wheels with Schwalbe Marathons. Upgraded to '87 Deore XT (best year for XT IMHO) on almost every part. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3941863173.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Heron Rally Bicycle
I found this beautiful lugged Heron on the local (SoCal) craigslist and it looks like a good deal for a BOB or tallish BOBETTE. Oh wait, it's mine, he says in a disingenuous manner. -Kim. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. https-::post.craigslist.org:u:5pcZaSLu4hGRpgJIbjF5pg:xzypm.webloc Description: Binary data
[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendells 68cm - three of them sort of
A couple months ago, I would have taken the AHH. I agree w Michael; sell the Hilsen. The Ram and Atlantis are different, and complimentary. KJ On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:10:54 PM UTC-4, Kelly wrote: So the story is... I am buying a 68cm Atlantis which I will need to build up. This will replace my AHH for a photography bike and day tours allowing me significantly larger tires with fenders. I've listed three bikes for sale. However - I'm only going to sell the AHH or RAM not both. So first one grabbed will take the other one off the market. The Quickbeam needs to be ridden and I don't ride it often enough. I don't want a collection of bikes I want bikes I ride all the freakin time like I've been doing. For me that means three bikes. I love the way all of these bikes ride and am only making room for the new Atlantis. The prices are not fire sale and set at what I feel to be fair. I honestly don't want to strip them down for parts or frame. Freight is not included in the price. Feel free to contact me tksl...@gmail.com javascript: or 314-799-4743 AHH - 67cm - Complete Bike - 2500.00 48 Noodles Sugino Crank New White Industries Cassette Hub with Shimano Cassette Son28 (new style 2013) Front Hub Rims on both wheels are Velo Orange Raid Luxus B Head Light -Toplight Plus rear Lugged Seat Post and Lugged Stem Marks Rack Nitto Rear Rack Longboard fenders Everything in photos except saddle and bags. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/8749083906/in/set-72157632471917923 Quickbeam 68cm - Complete Bike as Pictured - 2000.00 Included is an extra set of Wheels that originally came with it. Dyno and lights included. Front Bag included Saddle not included. http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157633031703828/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/7866686844/in/set-72157625210417815 RAM 68cm Complete Bike -3200.00 Gran Boise Rear Hub SonDelux Front Hub Supernova Front and rear lights Lugged Stem Rene Herse Triple - 50-38-24 SKS Bottom Bracket New Factory Paint Job 48cm Noodles Saddle and bags not Included http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/sets/72157632274231014/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Century ride training for the un-racer?
Hi, I am new to this forum. I think the advice here is right on but just to get started here- I recall my first century ride pretty well even though it was over 20 years ago. The ride was Bellingham, WA. to Seattle and it is quite hilly in this neck of the woods. I understand this ride to be lots more hill than Seattle to Portland which I have not done. I had ridden a few 35 mile rides before attempting this longer ride. This gal I knew was a racer and she invited me to join her so I couldn't refuse! The challenge was abated by watching her climb out of the saddle on hills :) I would list these as considerations: saddle comfort (take at least a couple of longer rides to be sure you are comfortable in your saddle If you are commuting or doing training rides, be sure if you can't simulate the poor wind in face condition maybe seek out some hills if you can. This assumes your upper body is also prepared- neck shoulders , lower back Also resist the urge to stop for Mexican while doing this...save it for the destination. Another unexpected issue for me on the same ride a few years later was that it temps were high and I sweat a lot. Sweat began to pour from my helmet into my eyes...so a bandanna would have been invaluable. David On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:39:15 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Was wondering what you all recommend for training for a century since I am not racing, just wanna finish the century. Its flat. No hills, but headwinds to battle towards the last half. I will probably ride the Bleriot/Hetres if my new set up works out on it. Do you get by on centuries with little to no training - just your commutes and such? I am under the impression that those training cards you get at the LBS are overkill and geared mostly to people racing or looking to do their personal best. Or am I sorely mistaken? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] unique hand made recycled leather saddles
These are old leather saddles that came to me with ruined leather. I have replaced the leather. They range from one of the first I did (late 2011), to the most recent (which I did earlier this month). They are shown in their present condition; I expect the leather to darken with time and use. I cannot offer a money-back-no-questions-asked guarantee, but will stand by my work and make repairs if necessary. Incidentally, I would be happy to take your old saddle(s), with ruined leather, in trade. The first three saddles are all made from sole bend leather, the thickest stuff you can get. It is thick and hard. I have ridden thousands of miles on saddles made from this leather. It holds up well, but some riders have joked RHM must stand for 'rock hard material' rather than my initials. I'm not exaggerating, and I'm not making any excuses; I think a leather saddle * should* be hard. If you disagree, these probably aren't for you. I believe this link will take you to photos. I have labeled them in the 'comments.' https://plus.google.com/photos/107591792777566806025/albums/5901578391382893617?authkey=CKTE9PL4scqOPA 1. RHM#4, a PRYMA saddle frame; made in France, painted black, with wire bag loops. It is very narrow; about 5 3/8. $65 shipped More photos: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-lwDOCUZXvDU/USjjLPepTGI/DQw/ZYxgCaHogGs/w958-h719-no/IMG_7378.JPG https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RWkt6Sujgvs/USjjLuYxQRI/DQ4/sShhtV-BPiU/w958-h719-no/IMG_7379.JPG https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-w1Kv4UnaWac/USjjRVvVw0I/DMg/DP5DXXWXZ-Q/w958-h719-no/IMG_7381.JPG 2. RHM#40, an Ideale 80 frame, black, no bag loops. The width is a little under 6/ I reused all but one of the original rivets, which are stamped IDEALE. The skirt stamps are imitations of Ideale stamps, but says 'remade in New Jersey and have my initials where you would expect to find T, B, and 80. $120 shipped. 3. RHM#49, a Brooks Pro frame, about 6 wide. Copper rivets. Skirt stamps show Zeus and Herakles based on ancient Greek coins. $120 shipped. 4. RHM#46, a Brooks Pro frame, about 6 wide. Brass rivets. Skirt stamps based on an ancient Carthaginian coin. $120 shipped. This one is made from a premium butt leather; more expensive, easier to work with, but thinner and softer. I have only ridden a few hundred miles on one saddle made from this leather, and I'd say so far, so good! but honestly I am not sure how it will hold up over the long haul. https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gVR9YdDvtiU/UaT037YuyOI/Dw0/PlcPIUfthqc/w958-h719-no/IMG_0405.jpg Rudi Mayr Lawrenceville, NJ (but in Mastic Beach, NY, for the summer) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Solo Rides and Pedicab PhotoShoot.
Usually I shoulder the camera. Lately I've been trying to enjoy my riding and take only shots when I feel it can tell the story of the ride. So I've been putting it in my small trucksack, which fits my camera perfectly and make a habit of stopping often and to take pictures. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Newly built-up LongLow
Nice setup! looks like a smooth riding bike, ready to go anywhere. What kind of dynohub are you using there? On Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:27:46 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote: Towards the end of 2012, I bought a 1998 Double Joe F/F/HS LongLow from a list member. I bought parts from Germany, the US, from list members (good people here). I have to say that dealing with the people on this list has been a pleasure. I'm not a talented photographer, and the bicycle does look lovelier in the steel. This is my first Rivendell and it absolutely rides like a dream - the stories are all true. I took it on its maiden voyage today and 20km later was walking through the front door thinking I really must buy an Atlantis as well. I've set it up for Randonneur riding and light-weight touring. It will comfortably handle true 35mm tires with the fenders, so I think it offers lots of versatility. I have it as an 8 speed (12-28) to the XD triple (28/38/48) and that seems to be a good fit for this bike. It's my first ground-up build. The headset was already pressed in, but I built the wheels myself for this bicycle (first time) and assembled everything either in my living-room or when I needed to at the local bicycle co-op. It's taken me a few months as I was working too much, but it's good to finish the build finally. I kept the build cost as low as possible, using second-hand or using parts I already owned where I could. There are also quite a few new parts and I haven't compromised on quality. Overall, I'm very happy with the way it has turned out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] LongLow
Very nice! On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM, IanA attew...@gmail.com wrote: Towards the end of 2012, I bought a Double Joe LongLow from a list member. I bought parts from Germany, the US, from list members (good people here) and the frame/fork/HS also from a list member. I have to say that dealing with the people on this list has been a pleasure. I'm not a talented photographer, and the bicycle does look lovelier in the steel. This is my first Rivendell and it absolutely rides like a dream - the stories are all true. I took it on its maiden voyage today and 20km later was walking through the front door thinking I really must buy an Atlantis as well. I've set it up for Randonneur riding and light-weight touring. It will comfortably handle true 35mm tires with the fenders, so I think it offers lots of versatility. I have it as an 8 speed (12-28) to the XD triple (28/38/48) and that seems to be a good fit for this bike. It's my first ground-up build. The headset was already pressed in, but I built the wheels myself for this bicycle (first time) and assembled everything either in my living-room or when I needed to at the local bicycle co-op. I kept the build cost as low as possible, either buying second-hand or using parts I already owned. There are quite a few new parts and I haven't compromised on quality. Overall, I'm very happy with the way it has turned out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Exceptional Rainwear
Good luck, Larry. In my experience, if it requires ventilation zips it's not breathable enough and if it requires a coating or laminate, it will wear off and you have a wind jacket at best. In terms of cost, I fully expect this jacket to last 30 years or more and still work as well then as it does now (it does not use coatings, only the inherent properties of the fabrics. Double ventile jackets are still around and working after 40+ years), so at roughly $400, that's $13.34 per year. With abandon, Patrick On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:45:09 PM UTC-6, LF wrote: Patrick, I had great results with a Burley Rainrider, http://www.dirtragmag.com/reviews/burley-rain-rider-jacket waterproof with a good ventilation system. They were pretty popular. The waterproofing stopped working as well as it use to, so I hung it up, in favor of a Patagonia Torrent shell. I would much prefer the Rainrider, if only the waterproofing worked. I'm going to try treating it with NeverWet superhydrophobic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7is6r6zXFDc and hope for the best. I'm optomistic. Best, Larry On Monday, July 15, 2013 5:14:29 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote: The post finally arrived from Scotland with my new Hilltrek Cotton Analogy rainwear (single layer Ventile with a fur analogy liner that actively pushes liquid and vapor (not just vapor) out from the jacket. Was the wait (felt nearly as long as waiting for my Hunqapillar) worth it? In short, wow. Just did 3 days bikepacking on Pikes Peak with rain about half the time, and some of that was solid deluge. I stayed dry, no matter what I was doing (we stopped short of snorkeling the marshes though). No wet from inside sweat while climbing steep hills, no wet from the rain. Amazing, incredible stuff. Yes, this is a a lot of praise for three days of rain, but I know how well ventile wears so longevity should not be an issue, and the fur liner is the possible wear point. They've only been around for 15 years, so none knows how long they will last. Grin. I got the Cansip breeches and Liathach smock. http://www.hilltrek.co.uk/acatalog/Liathach-Cotton-Analogy-Extreme-Smock-.html. The Liathach (as you can see from photos below), fonts amazing well, allows complete freedom of movement, unzips at the sides for complete range of motion on the bike while still having greater coverage font and rear. The fur analogy never felt wet on the inside. The only moisture I felt was the moments it took my sweat to move from my skin to my wool long sleeve shirt, maybe five minutes paused at the top of a hill, no more sweat, and that's with it raining significantly the whole time. Said wool shirt, dry within minutes at the car. Never felt the need to take it off due to cold/wet wool feeling. Amazing stuff. Well worth considering carrying. I would highly recommend the cotton analogy over double ventile -- the active pushing of moisture out of the garment is stunning and effective. All previous rainwear I've had would be lucky to be half this good. Amazing. I'm looking forward to abusing them even more on the Colorado Trail Pictures are in the camping album, if you missed seeing that. Here's the link again: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/sets/72157634656798828/ With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Exceptional Rainwear
I have not climbed or hiked in Scotland, but the people I talked with about the Grampians have told me it is a beautiful and difficult place. The high latitude (think northern Canada) combined with winds from Atlantic depressions makes for a difficult climate. That said, I want to get to the West Highland trail with the Hunqapillar! Be well - Bob Definitely the high latitude makes a big difference. I've read a couple of good books about Denali (hey, we can all dream!). Some climbers who have climbed the Himalayas, Alps, and Andes will look at the relatively low elevation and wind up underestimating the extreme challenges climbing so far north present. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Need shoe recommendations for riding.
5.10 Dirtbags. I bought a pair a month ago and have been pleasantly suprised at how good they are. I too ride MKS touring pedals with clips and straps and these are the best shoes I've tried to date. On Thursday, September 20, 2012 1:12:10 AM UTC-5, Michael wrote: Specifically something that is for regular pedals - not clipless. I use MKS Touring Pedals with MKS toe clips - no straps. Looking for something that has a harder sole for longer rides. My regular, every day shoes are great on commutes, but feel a little soft on standing climbs, and sometimes my toes get squished as they get jammed in the front of the shoe. I can put up with it for the short rides, but I think it would get on me nerves on longer rides. Any tips are welcome. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Newly built-up LongLow
Thank you! It`s the Schmidt SON28 Klassik. On Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:10:23 AM UTC-6, Matt Beebe wrote: Nice setup! looks like a smooth riding bike, ready to go anywhere. What kind of dynohub are you using there? On Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:27:46 AM UTC-4, IanA wrote: Towards the end of 2012, I bought a 1998 Double Joe F/F/HS LongLow from a list member. I bought parts from Germany, the US, from list members (good people here). I have to say that dealing with the people on this list has been a pleasure. I'm not a talented photographer, and the bicycle does look lovelier in the steel. This is my first Rivendell and it absolutely rides like a dream - the stories are all true. I took it on its maiden voyage today and 20km later was walking through the front door thinking I really must buy an Atlantis as well. I've set it up for Randonneur riding and light-weight touring. It will comfortably handle true 35mm tires with the fenders, so I think it offers lots of versatility. I have it as an 8 speed (12-28) to the XD triple (28/38/48) and that seems to be a good fit for this bike. It's my first ground-up build. The headset was already pressed in, but I built the wheels myself for this bicycle (first time) and assembled everything either in my living-room or when I needed to at the local bicycle co-op. It's taken me a few months as I was working too much, but it's good to finish the build finally. I kept the build cost as low as possible, using second-hand or using parts I already owned where I could. There are also quite a few new parts and I haven't compromised on quality. Overall, I'm very happy with the way it has turned out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Alba bar-reach
I wonder if your saddle is tilted nose-down a bit? That would make you feel thrown forward onto the bars and put pressure on your hands and arms. On Monday, July 15, 2013 11:55:00 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote: YES-that is exactly how I feel: extended. I am reluctant to change the hardware, however, because prior to messing around with the saddle, it was perfect. I just can't seem to find that sweet spot, though. I suppose I could try sliding the saddle forward on the rails again, but I actually love the saddle position I have now...it's really just my arms that bother me. I'm scared of moving the saddle again and not being able to get it at all comfortable. What should I do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: FS Riv 6spd Phil Freewheel set
There have been lots of lookers, no takers, price drop to $450 - -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com facebook https://www.facebook.com/OceanAirCycles Instagram http://instagram.com/oceanaircycles Flickr http://www.flickr.com/groups/oceanaircycles/ Pinterest http://pinterest.com/oceanaircycles/inspiration-and-creation/ Ventura, CA On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:36:23 PM UTC-7, rperks wrote: Forgot the link to the pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/sets/7215763491509/ Rob On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:34:23 PM UTC-7, rperks wrote: It is time to let these go. I rolled these for a few years with my Roadeo and then Rambler, They have years if not decades of service left in them, but I need to work out some cash flow issues with the latest venture. 700c Mavic A119 rims with 36 holes front and rear laced to Phil Rivy freewheel hubs By Rich at HOW with DT double butted spokes. 130mm rear spacing. Spokes are tight and wheels run true, bearings are smooth as silk. I will include the low milage 6spd Suntour freewheel that is currently on there, 13/15/17/20/24/28 cogs. The freewheel came off of a garage queen Sequoia that passed though, and there is a bit of grime but no visible where on the cogs. As far as I can tell from the Riv website a similar wheel set new would run about $825. I would like to get $550 shipped, if you really want them and are on the west coast I might entertain reasonable offers Thanks -- Rob Perks oceanaircycles.com facebook https://www.facebook.com/OceanAirCycles Instagram http://instagram.com/oceanaircycles Flickr http://www.flickr.com/groups/oceanaircycles/ Pinterest http://pinterest.com/oceanaircycles/inspiration-and-creation/ Ventura, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Are fenders necessary for a Pacific NW tour in August?
Hey group, just wanted to ask some of the Pacific NWers on the list if it is necessary to have fenders for a tour from roughly Aug 1st to Sep 1st? I'll be riding the ACA Sierra/Cascades route from Truckee, CA to Seattle, then onto the San Juan Islands hopefully.Im not really familiar with the weather in those areas. If it was winter/fall/spring, sure Id be going with fenders. Just wanted to know about Summer weather patterns. thanks in advance!! -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Are fenders necessary for a Pacific NW tour in August?
I've decided never to take the fenders off my bike. This may be a bit superstitious on my part. In Portland we've had pretty dry weather for the last month or so. You *probably* will be just fine, but being out for a month, you're guaranteed to get some rain. cc On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM, Michael Williams mkernanwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Hey group, just wanted to ask some of the Pacific NWers on the list if it is necessary to have fenders for a tour from roughly Aug 1st to Sep 1st?I'll be riding the ACA Sierra/Cascades route from Truckee, CA to Seattle, then onto the San Juan Islands hopefully.Im not really familiar with the weather in those areas. If it was winter/fall/spring, sure Id be going with fenders. Just wanted to know about Summer weather patterns.thanks in advance!! -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Two Burley trailers for the price of one. Burley Solo/Cargo
When my son was born I bought a Burley Solo. At that time I had done a fair amount of touring with a cargo trailer and liked it a lot, so I also sprung for the Burley conversion kit that converts my Burley Solo to a Cargo Trailer. I used it as a kid trailer a fair amount, maybe once a week in the summers. My daughter arrived a couple years later and we still used it maybe 15x a year for short putts around town. Now it has been sitting. Both kids are way too big, and I now carry all my luggage for S24Os and touring on Nitto Racks and matching bags. So, I admit I do not need my Burley trailer any more. So, before I go the ebay route, I'm offering it here. It's a Burley Solo purchased in 2001. It's in very good used condition, and has always been stored in the garage. It fits one child, up to 50lbs, and it has a space behind the kid for play gear or a bag of groceries. It comes with an optional conversion kit to make it into a cargo trailer. I'd like to get $200 plus shipping. I am in the East Bay. Local exchange is preferred, but not mandatory. I just hate how much it costs to ship things. Anyone who is interested contact me offlist and I can share copious photos and answer any questions. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] FS: Rivish bike for kid or 5' tall person in Seattle
I hear you Ty. Some great bikes out there needing some love. I really like the early Specialiazed MTBs like you're selling. Locally to me this nicely built up Rockhopper has been languishing in CL purgatory and I've been tempted to get it for my kids as well: http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/bik/3942975947.html It's still too big for them and my kids don't like drop bar bikes though, so I haven't bought it. Cool bike though! On 7/17/13, Ty Graham tygra...@gmail.com wrote: Put my wife's '87 Specialized Hard Rock on CL. It's not lugged, but it is steel. No real interest for 2 weeks. Seems a shame to break it up for parts. I'd like to see a kid get this ideally. 24 wheels with Schwalbe Marathons. Upgraded to '87 Deore XT (best year for XT IMHO) on almost every part. http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/3941863173.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Haines to Skagway on the Yves Gomez
Oh, thank you for sharing these! I see so many touring reports in this group for all other Rivendell bikes, but so few that show what the Yves/Betty is really capable of. It looks like you had a great time! On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:14:30 PM UTC-7, Keely wrote: I recently rode my Yves Gomez (fully loaded) from Haines AK though Haines Junction YT, Whitehorse YT, and finishing in Skagway AK. It was an incredible trip, and while perhaps not designed for fully loaded touring, my Yves Gomez handled the load really well. No problems. I love my bike. Here are a few pictures. http://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=one_set72157634672375888 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Are fenders necessary for a Pacific NW tour in August?
Michael: Last July I toured from the San Juans south as far as Corvallis, OR, along the west side of Puget sound. No rain in nearly 3 weeks of riding. A couple of years before that our family toured the San Juans for a week with only minor drizzle one day on San Juan. Earlier a group of us followed Bicycling the Pacific Coast's coastal route from the San Juans to Florence, OR. Minor drizzle one day on the Oregon coast but 100 degree temps in northern WA. All of these during July-August. OTH, I've done the Oregon Bike Ride when it rained every other day, and not always along the coast. Summer seems fairly safe but don't be surprised by the odd storm. Less fun than riding in the rain is camping in the rain. I live in southern CA so tend to overreact to rain. dougP On Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote: Hey group, just wanted to ask some of the Pacific NWers on the list if it is necessary to have fenders for a tour from roughly Aug 1st to Sep 1st?I'll be riding the ACA Sierra/Cascades route from Truckee, CA to Seattle, then onto the San Juan Islands hopefully.Im not really familiar with the weather in those areas. If it was winter/fall/spring, sure Id be going with fenders. Just wanted to know about Summer weather patterns.thanks in advance!! -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: Alba bar-reach
Mine's tipped up...kind of snooty-like! Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2013, at 7:30 AM, stevef stl...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if your saddle is tilted nose-down a bit? That would make you feel thrown forward onto the bars and put pressure on your hands and arms. On Monday, July 15, 2013 11:55:00 AM UTC-4, LeahFoy wrote: YES-that is exactly how I feel: extended. I am reluctant to change the hardware, however, because prior to messing around with the saddle, it was perfect. I just can't seem to find that sweet spot, though. I suppose I could try sliding the saddle forward on the rails again, but I actually love the saddle position I have now...it's really just my arms that bother me. I'm scared of moving the saddle again and not being able to get it at all comfortable. What should I do? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/Yd0pdjPffMs/unsubscribe. To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Are fenders necessary for a Pacific NW tour in August?
Generally speaking July, Aug, Sept are pretty reliably dry. That's not to say you won't get rained on. Exhibit A: Just east of Portland, OR on July 22. 2012.https://plus.google.com/photos/113148323994353762329/albums/5768216958569372929/5768222125770425714?banner=pwapid=5768222125770425714oid=113148323994353762329 It wasn't a downpour and it wasn't that cold, but it certainly didn't feel like summer. I think Fenders would be worth it even if you just get a couple days like the one pictured. --Smitty On Thursday, July 18, 2013 7:58:41 AM UTC-7, Michael Williams wrote: Hey group, just wanted to ask some of the Pacific NWers on the list if it is necessary to have fenders for a tour from roughly Aug 1st to Sep 1st?I'll be riding the ACA Sierra/Cascades route from Truckee, CA to Seattle, then onto the San Juan Islands hopefully.Im not really familiar with the weather in those areas. If it was winter/fall/spring, sure Id be going with fenders. Just wanted to know about Summer weather patterns.thanks in advance!! -Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Haines to Skagway on the Yves Gomez
Cecily, Not quite a trek in America's Last Frontier, but my wife rode her Betty on our recent 6-day family trip along the Oregon Coast. Betty is certainly a contender in the touring world.http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/9277807760/ --Smitty On Thursday, July 18, 2013 8:07:06 AM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote: Oh, thank you for sharing these! I see so many touring reports in this group for all other Rivendell bikes, but so few that show what the Yves/Betty is really capable of. It looks like you had a great time! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Haines to Skagway on the Yves Gomez
Hugh, Funny - I spent the summer of 1990 in Delta Junction, AK, working on an archaeological dig. Maybe we crossed paths that summer. Alaska will never leave my consciousness, either. The place really makes an impression. I remember seeing a guy that summer travelling through on a bicycle bound for Massachusetts. At the time, I thought that was nuts! Bryan On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:22:43 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Keely, Most excellent tour. Now I have another on my tour wish list. Back in 1990 I voyaged up the inside passage on the Columbia sleeping on the solarium deck. I stopped off in Ketchican, Petersberg, Sitka, Juneau and finally Skagway. I then journeyed over White Pass up to Whitehorse then Dawson and over to Anchorage AK it has never left my consciousness . I have been dreaming of getting back one of these days! Thanks for sharing. The Yves Gomez looks good loaded. Best, ~Hugh On Tuesday, July 16, 2013 2:14:30 PM UTC-7, Keely wrote: I recently rode my Yves Gomez (fully loaded) from Haines AK though Haines Junction YT, Whitehorse YT, and finishing in Skagway AK. It was an incredible trip, and while perhaps not designed for fully loaded touring, my Yves Gomez handled the load really well. No problems. I love my bike. Here are a few pictures. http://www.flickr.com/photos/organize/?start_tab=one_set72157634672375888 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendells 68cm - three of them sort of
Absolutely agree. My Quickbeam is my favorite for pure riding pleasure among my several Rivs. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of justinaug...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:49 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rivendells 68cm - three of them sort of I would just say that each person passing on (or getting rid of) a Quickbeam or SimpleOne in their size always, always regrets it. My S1 almost left me but instead I spent the time I needed getting the right set up on it and now I know I'll ride it until one of us breaks permanently. Ive had several single speeds and fixed gears but nothing comes close to the ride of a Riv and simplicity of the drivetrain. The most underrated and under purchased Riv models. -Justin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (and any attachments thereto) is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email in error please immediately notify me at (212) 735-3000 and permanently delete the original email (and any copy of any email) and any printout thereof. Further information about the firm, a list of the Partners and their professional qualifications will be provided upon request. == -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] WTT/S: Paul Centerpulls for Tektro R559 sidepulls
Pauls have about 2k on them based on what original Bleriot owner and I have put on them to the best of my recollection. They have newish (less than 500 miles?) Salmon Kool Stop pads on them which are great in the rain. Comes with 2 straddle wire hangers, seat tube hanger, brake bolts - Allen, an extra straddle wire, and the original black Kool Stops. I will sell them for 95$ if you just want to buy them outright. To be honest I'd rather sell, then I can just buy new Tektros. Let me know what you think. Paypal is great. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Rivish bike for kid or 5' tall person in Seattle
If you are willing to ship it , I would be interested in purchasing it! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTT/S: Paul Centerpulls for Tektro R559 sidepulls
PS- I am selling/trading the centerpulls because they are not going to work with my new lower drop bar setup on my Bleriot which I must do to avoid low back pain. I can have bars below saddle height or sit bolt upright, but the in between heights don't wok for me. So with bars at1cm below saddle height, the headset brake cable hanger is too high for the cable to pass under the bars and over to the hanger without bending the cable too much. So on to sidepulls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: WTT/S: Paul Centerpulls for Tektro R559 sidepulls
Yes! I'll buy! -Justin justinaug...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: V-O Grabsack FS $60 Shipped
Evan: here you go: *http://tinyurl.com/lvdju7n* On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Evan Spacht evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote: Patrick, may I see a picture of your adaptation? I don't leave home without my 'manpurse' best, Evan On Monday, July 15, 2013 4:56:52 PM UTC-7, Eric Norris wrote: Bought this and ended up using it for just a few rides downtown. It's looking for a new home. Photos of this bag here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/**campyonlyguy/9297318690/http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/9297318690/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/**campyonlyguy/9294542045/in/**photostream/http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/9294542045/in/photostream/ Minion is not included, but you do get the cool Rivendell pin. Info from the Riv web site: http://www.rivbike.com/**product-p/bavgs.htmhttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bavgs.htm $60 includes shipping in the USA. --Eric Norris Email: campyo...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Blog: http://campyonlyguy.blogspot.**comhttp://campyonlyguy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy Flickr: www.flickr.com/photos/**campyonlyguyhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Century ride training for the un-racer?
Assuming you're in decent physical condition, I'd say don't give much thought to training. If you're commuting, you've got the legs for a flat 100mi. Make sure you are comfortable for a long day on the bike. Regularly consuming food and water will be key, too. I did my first century with minimal cycling experience, mediocre 20-something's fitness, a fixed gear bike, and rolling terrain. I was extremely ignorant; didn't know how to fix flats and bonking was a new concept. I stuck with some other slowpokes and had a great ride. We were probably the last to finish, but I was the happiest rider. You might be surprised with the capabilities of under trained riders. Many of the ones I know get strong by just riding frequently, to work or running errands. Jon Watertown, MA On Wednesday, July 17, 2013 1:39:15 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote: Was wondering what you all recommend for training for a century since I am not racing, just wanna finish the century. Its flat. No hills, but headwinds to battle towards the last half. I will probably ride the Bleriot/Hetres if my new set up works out on it. Do you get by on centuries with little to no training - just your commutes and such? I am under the impression that those training cards you get at the LBS are overkill and geared mostly to people racing or looking to do their personal best. Or am I sorely mistaken? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] skinny tires OK on a mountain bike?
A friend of mine at work decided to try bike commuting and got himself a 29er hardtail with 2.1 aggressive knobby tsire for that purpose. Now he wants to try something more road-like. Any reason he can't use a pair of 32mm Pasela TGs I have taking up room in my closet? Just for laughs, I will mention that he flatted both tires today and came to me for help. He was pretty upset that such a thing could happen despite the knock-off slime tubes he just bought. He had a glass fragment inside the front tire and a staple in the rear. Yipes. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: skinny tires OK on a mountain bike?
It will work just fine and he should be happy that 29 is the new normal. I did it for years on 26x1.25s when circumstances allowed only one bike in my life. On Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:09:08 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: A friend of mine at work decided to try bike commuting and got himself a 29er hardtail with 2.1 aggressive knobby tsire for that purpose. Now he wants to try something more road-like. Any reason he can't use a pair of 32mm Pasela TGs I have taking up room in my closet? Just for laughs, I will mention that he flatted both tires today and came to me for help. He was pretty upset that such a thing could happen despite the knock-off slime tubes he just bought. He had a glass fragment inside the front tire and a staple in the rear. Yipes. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: STP 2013
I had a great ride on my AHH with my two boys and my friend Tom, who rode his Bleriot. Had a nice riding chat with Eric from Davis CA on his Dahon (he was 1-dayin' it), saw a pretty Homer with a basket out front and newer-blue paint at the halfway point but couldn't find the owner to say hello, and that was about it. PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: skinny tires OK on a mountain bike?
Put some Big Apples on (50 or 60mm) and he'd really be rockin' it. On 7/18/13, Rambouilleting Utahn glam...@gmail.com wrote: It will work just fine and he should be happy that 29 is the new normal. I did it for years on 26x1.25s when circumstances allowed only one bike in my life. On Thursday, July 18, 2013 3:09:08 PM UTC-6, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: A friend of mine at work decided to try bike commuting and got himself a 29er hardtail with 2.1 aggressive knobby tsire for that purpose. Now he wants to try something more road-like. Any reason he can't use a pair of 32mm Pasela TGs I have taking up room in my closet? Just for laughs, I will mention that he flatted both tires today and came to me for help. He was pretty upset that such a thing could happen despite the knock-off slime tubes he just bought. He had a glass fragment inside the front tire and a staple in the rear. Yipes. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] skinny tires OK on a mountain bike?
It may drop the BB too much for comfort or otherwise affect handling. On my salsa fargo, I threw on some 35 tires which measure actual 37. I probably wouldn't want to drop that bike any lower though. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: STP 2013
That was probably me? http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9288156349/ On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: I had a great ride on my AHH with my two boys and my friend Tom, who rode his Bleriot. Had a nice riding chat with Eric from Davis CA on his Dahon (he was 1-dayin' it), saw a pretty Homer with a basket out front and newer-blue paint at the halfway point but couldn't find the owner to say hello, and that was about it. PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] skinny tires OK on a mountain bike?
The Fargo has quite a bit more BB drop than a typical mountain bike. As long as his tire width is greater than his rim width, no worries. Eric On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM, bobish bob...@gmail.com wrote: It may drop the BB too much for comfort or otherwise affect handling. On my salsa fargo, I threw on some 35 tires which measure actual 37. I probably wouldn't want to drop that bike any lower though. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] LongLow
Thanks Patrick! On Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:35:13 AM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: Very nice! On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM, IanA atte...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: Towards the end of 2012, I bought a Double Joe LongLow from a list member. I bought parts from Germany, the US, from list members (good people here) and the frame/fork/HS also from a list member. I have to say that dealing with the people on this list has been a pleasure. I'm not a talented photographer, and the bicycle does look lovelier in the steel. This is my first Rivendell and it absolutely rides like a dream - the stories are all true. I took it on its maiden voyage today and 20km later was walking through the front door thinking I really must buy an Atlantis as well. I've set it up for Randonneur riding and light-weight touring. It will comfortably handle true 35mm tires with the fenders, so I think it offers lots of versatility. I have it as an 8 speed (12-28) to the XD triple (28/38/48) and that seems to be a good fit for this bike. It's my first ground-up build. The headset was already pressed in, but I built the wheels myself for this bicycle (first time) and assembled everything either in my living-room or when I needed to at the local bicycle co-op. I kept the build cost as low as possible, either buying second-hand or using parts I already owned. There are quite a few new parts and I haven't compromised on quality. Overall, I'm very happy with the way it has turned out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patric...@resumespecialties.com javascript: http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: STP 2013
Frank I thought I recognized your set up. Tim Tetrault from Eckstein here. Glad to hear both your boys did it with you this year. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: I had a great ride on my AHH with my two boys and my friend Tom, who rode his Bleriot. Had a nice riding chat with Eric from Davis CA on his Dahon (he was 1-dayin' it), saw a pretty Homer with a basket out front and newer-blue paint at the halfway point but couldn't find the owner to say hello, and that was about it. PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xI3MsVnSrwI/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: STP 2013
It was indeed. Beautiful bike, and I'm sorry I missed the chance to say hello. On Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:44:45 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: That was probably me? http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumachrome/9288156349/ On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Frank pgui...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I had a great ride on my AHH with my two boys and my friend Tom, who rode his Bleriot. Had a nice riding chat with Eric from Davis CA on his Dahon (he was 1-dayin' it), saw a pretty Homer with a basket out front and newer-blue paint at the halfway point but couldn't find the owner to say hello, and that was about it. PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: STP 2013
Hey Tim, good to hear from you. Maybe we'll see you on the road next year? The boys had fun, but they put in an effort. STP is Imminently doable for elementary and middle schoolers with planning and preparation, and a nice way to convey the import of perseverance and a sense of real accomplishment. On Thursday, July 18, 2013 4:04:46 PM UTC-7, Tim Tetrault wrote: Frank I thought I recognized your set up. Tim Tetrault from Eckstein here. Glad to hear both your boys did it with you this year. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Frank pgui...@gmail.com javascript:wrote: I had a great ride on my AHH with my two boys and my friend Tom, who rode his Bleriot. Had a nice riding chat with Eric from Davis CA on his Dahon (he was 1-dayin' it), saw a pretty Homer with a basket out front and newer-blue paint at the halfway point but couldn't find the owner to say hello, and that was about it. PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/xI3MsVnSrwI/unsubscribe . To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: STP 2013
Frank and his sons had one of the most impressive setups on the entire ride. His boys looked like mini-randonneurs. --Eric N www.CampyOnly.com CampyOnlyGuy.blogspot.com Twitter: @CampyOnlyGuy On Jul 18, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Frank pguil...@gmail.com wrote: I had a great ride on my AHH with my two boys and my friend Tom, who rode his Bleriot. Had a nice riding chat with Eric from Davis CA on his Dahon (he was 1-dayin' it), saw a pretty Homer with a basket out front and newer-blue paint at the halfway point but couldn't find the owner to say hello, and that was about it. PTPIH: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pguillam/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Haines to Skagway on the Yves Gomez
On Thursday, July 18, 2013 10:04:13 AM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote: Cecily, Not quite a trek in America's Last Frontier, but my wife rode her Betty on our recent 6-day family trip along the Oregon Coast. Betty is certainly a contender in the touring world.http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/9277807760/ *claps hands with glee* Thanks for showing these. I know Betty is so much more than a cute city bike, so I really enjoy seeing photos of people using her for other types of adventures. Thanks, Smitty! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: skinny tires OK on a mountain bike?
Jay: I've run 1.25 (32 mm) wide x 26 tires on my old MTB. It worked fine, maybe a little more responsive (or twitchy, depending on your viewpoint) than with the honkin' knobs it came with. Worth a shot before springing for a dedicated street / commuter tire. Not sure about a 29er but my old 26er feels more stable with 1.75-2 street tires. dougP On Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:09:08 PM UTC-7, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: A friend of mine at work decided to try bike commuting and got himself a 29er hardtail with 2.1 aggressive knobby tsire for that purpose. Now he wants to try something more road-like. Any reason he can't use a pair of 32mm Pasela TGs I have taking up room in my closet? Just for laughs, I will mention that he flatted both tires today and came to me for help. He was pretty upset that such a thing could happen despite the knock-off slime tubes he just bought. He had a glass fragment inside the front tire and a staple in the rear. Yipes. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Re: First ride with the Noodles
Hugh, Mission Trails has some nice fire roads and a camp ground. Maybe an overnight is in the future. A train into Old Town the a ride east to Mission Trails. On Tuesday, July 16, 2013, Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com wrote: Always nice to see another Double Homer. --Smitty On Thursday, July 11, 2013 5:19:53 PM UTC-7, Curtis wrote: Pictures to prove it. About 10 miles with a little bit of dirt. First time using flickr. http://www.flickr.com/photos/**97010676@N07/sets/**72157634602760690/http://www.flickr.com/photos/97010676@N07/sets/72157634602760690/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com');. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com'); . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] FS: Rivendells 68cm - three of them sort of
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[RBW] Re: skinny tires OK on a mountain bike?
I did actually did the same thing myself for years on a 26 (steel) hardtail. I've got that bike stashed in my in-laws' basement in New Hampshire, where I'm going next week. It's got 32mm SMPs on it at the moments and I'm planning on riding the s**t out of it. Not sure why I thought 29' might be any different. Maybe the garish colors. Jay On Friday, July 19, 2013 12:09:08 AM UTC+3, Jay in Tel Aviv wrote: A friend of mine at work decided to try bike commuting and got himself a 29er hardtail with 2.1 aggressive knobby tsire for that purpose. Now he wants to try something more road-like. Any reason he can't use a pair of 32mm Pasela TGs I have taking up room in my closet? Just for laughs, I will mention that he flatted both tires today and came to me for help. He was pretty upset that such a thing could happen despite the knock-off slime tubes he just bought. He had a glass fragment inside the front tire and a staple in the rear. Yipes. Jay -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.