[RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.

2013-08-06 Thread Evan Spacht

TOPIC DRIFT ALERT:

Generally it's best to sell things on the forum as a separate topic 
however, but I'd like to sell a Nitto Top rack r-14, or trade it for a rack 
(like a tubus cosmos) that would allow for rear panniers. I'd prefer to not 
ship it which is why I'm offering it here, and I thought I'd ask you guys 
first. I'd like to sell it for  agood price because I am the second owner, 
but only used it for a few months.  does $80 seem reasonable?

sincerely,
Evan

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[RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.

2013-08-06 Thread Evan Spacht
topic drift alert:

I'm in the market for a rear pannier rack , if anyone is trying to sel one!
I have a used R-14 top rack that I am looking ot sell or trade.
Normally it's best to just post a new topic but I don't care to ship stuff 
if I don't have to . 

kindly,
Evan

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Re: [RBW] Re: Calling all SoCal Rivsters S240 August 23rd anyone? See details below.

2013-08-06 Thread Hugh Smitham
Evan,

Sorry I only have my Cosmo and likely will purchase another.  May I suggest
you post it both on CL  the list-serve then I will direct you to a web
seller that's reasonable price wise. That is if you can't find a trade. On
the group make sure to post as FS/WTT Nitto R-14 rack for Tubus Cosmo rack
and select the transaction tab. Of course if you already know all this then
disregard.

Best,

-Hugh
On Aug 5, 2013 11:24 PM, Evan Spacht evan.spa...@gmail.com wrote:

 topic drift alert:

 I'm in the market for a rear pannier rack , if anyone is trying to sel one!
 I have a used R-14 top rack that I am looking ot sell or trade.
 Normally it's best to just post a new topic but I don't care to ship stuff
 if I don't have to .

 kindly,
 Evan

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[RBW] 20,000 miles of Rivendells

2013-08-06 Thread Bruce Herbitter
While updating the little log I keep of my rides, I noticed that I am over
20,000 miles now on Rivendell bikes. I enjoy keeping the data and observing
statistics about my rides over time.  Like many, I got back into cycling
later in life, realizing I needed a good way to get exercise. A bike was a
self-bribe to sweat. Also like others, I went through a variety of bikes
before figuring out what kind of bike suits me best. I got my first
Rivendell, a new Ram in Jan 2007. Later that summer came a used Saluki and
the next year, a pre-production '95 Road frame set that I built up. Some
oberservations about the bikes:

Of the Rivendell miles, a hair over 10K are on the Ram. The factory Arraya
rims are still dead true (although the welded seam can be annoying when I
brake in humid conditions). I re packed the Shimano 105 hubs at about 7K
miles.  Replaced the cassette at 9K (factory was a 9 speed Ultegra. I now
have a wider range 8 speed and like it). Chains of course, more often.
Original bars, shifters, deraillers, brakes all still work jam up. It's
just to the point that I am thinking about re painting. A little sweat
induced rust here and there, and a few dings from use. Do I stay with
French Blue or get that Brandywine Red I've lusted after ever since seeing
that Saluki on Cyclofiend. You know the one :)  It's been a great bike, and
trouble free.

The other 10K miles are split evenly between the Saluki and the Road. I
like the Road better, and it is getting more and more use, but the Saluki
just has a certain feel to it that makes me keep it around. The road is
quicker, the Saluki has a more comfortable long ride position for me. I
ride it on RUSA events here and there, did a self supported tour on it,
take it out on Sunday afternoon relaxer (and beginner intro) rides. The
Road feels quick and handles quick. I have a 54.5 frame which is huge for
me, but a 650B conversion makes it work. It also makes for a very nice
hands-in-drops descending position.

Do I like all of RBWs ideas and quirky approaches? Nope. But I do like the
bikes. I think to myself, This is the most comfortable bike I've ever been
on until I get on one of the others. I do like pedaling un clipped, and
fatter tires at lower pressures, and wool, and no chamois pads. Is there a
ripple effect? Well, only two other locals have bought Rivs (a Hillborne
and a Foy) since seeing mine, but there is a population spurt on leather
saddles, wool socks and higher handlebars (Delta stem risers for those who
cannot quill) with my local circle. It's nice when someone comments on how
comfortable they are.

I'm all set I think for bikes now. Hope the next 10K miles are just as
enjoyable.

Tailwinds

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[RBW] Re: New blug question

2013-08-06 Thread Jay B
Cheers, indeed!  well done commuter vid.  and Eric, I believe that is Dan 
Hicks singing Bottoms Up.  

-Jay B.

On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:29:04 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote:

 First off, really like the video.  Does a great job of showing how a 
 person can ride knowing the route like the back of a hand.  Although will 
 admit to being shocked (shocked, I say) that the bike actually has drop 
 bars.  On a Rivendell?  These days?
  
 But the question - who is performing the music?  Really like the song.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


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[RBW] Re: Voiding the un-warranty

2013-08-06 Thread doc
http://littleballofhate.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/70s-big-wheel-jumping-ramp1.jpg
 

On Monday, August 5, 2013 3:12:17 PM UTC-4, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:

 AHH shenanigans... http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/9443416529/ 

 --Smitty


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[RBW] Re: 20,000 miles of Rivendells

2013-08-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic!

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:52:19 AM UTC-6, Fullylugged wrote:

 While updating the little log I keep of my rides, I noticed that I am over 
 20,000 miles now on Rivendell bikes. I enjoy keeping the data and observing 
 statistics about my rides over time.  Like many, I got back into cycling 
 later in life, realizing I needed a good way to get exercise. A bike was a 
 self-bribe to sweat. Also like others, I went through a variety of bikes 
 before figuring out what kind of bike suits me best. I got my first 
 Rivendell, a new Ram in Jan 2007. Later that summer came a used Saluki and 
 the next year, a pre-production '95 Road frame set that I built up. Some 
 oberservations about the bikes:

 Of the Rivendell miles, a hair over 10K are on the Ram. The factory Arraya 
 rims are still dead true (although the welded seam can be annoying when I 
 brake in humid conditions). I re packed the Shimano 105 hubs at about 7K 
 miles.  Replaced the cassette at 9K (factory was a 9 speed Ultegra. I now 
 have a wider range 8 speed and like it). Chains of course, more often. 
 Original bars, shifters, deraillers, brakes all still work jam up. It's 
 just to the point that I am thinking about re painting. A little sweat 
 induced rust here and there, and a few dings from use. Do I stay with 
 French Blue or get that Brandywine Red I've lusted after ever since seeing 
 that Saluki on Cyclofiend. You know the one :)  It's been a great bike, and 
 trouble free. 

 The other 10K miles are split evenly between the Saluki and the Road. I 
 like the Road better, and it is getting more and more use, but the Saluki 
 just has a certain feel to it that makes me keep it around. The road is 
 quicker, the Saluki has a more comfortable long ride position for me. I 
 ride it on RUSA events here and there, did a self supported tour on it, 
 take it out on Sunday afternoon relaxer (and beginner intro) rides. The 
 Road feels quick and handles quick. I have a 54.5 frame which is huge for 
 me, but a 650B conversion makes it work. It also makes for a very nice 
 hands-in-drops descending position.

 Do I like all of RBWs ideas and quirky approaches? Nope. But I do like the 
 bikes. I think to myself, This is the most comfortable bike I've ever been 
 on until I get on one of the others. I do like pedaling un clipped, and 
 fatter tires at lower pressures, and wool, and no chamois pads. Is there a 
 ripple effect? Well, only two other locals have bought Rivs (a Hillborne 
 and a Foy) since seeing mine, but there is a population spurt on leather 
 saddles, wool socks and higher handlebars (Delta stem risers for those who 
 cannot quill) with my local circle. It's nice when someone comments on how 
 comfortable they are.

 I'm all set I think for bikes now. Hope the next 10K miles are just as 
 enjoyable.

 Tailwinds


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[RBW] Re: Greetings! - 64cm Atlantis?

2013-08-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Hi Patrick,

How did you choose the Hunq as your go-to?  Is it just the amount of 
off-road you do?

Tony

On Monday, August 5, 2013 2:55:22 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I'm 6'-2 with a PBH of 90 and ride a 62 Hunqapillar (no idea how that 
 compares to the Atlantis). I do a significant amount of pretty technical 
 single track and I love the frame at this size. Not too big, not too small. 
 I wouldn't want it any bigger for testicular reasons, and and smaller for 
 ride and feel and stiffness reasons. I have two fingers worth of room in 
 stand over height at the middle of the TT.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:39:19 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Tonester - your post echo's what I've been thinking exactly... 
 particularly the coming down on uneven ground bit.  Nice to hear from 
 someone in the same pbh range, I appreciate the comment!  I'm going to hold 
 off till I get a chance to chat with the Riv guys but you may be seeing a 
 WTT up soon...

 Tony


 On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:22:25 PM UTC-4, Tonester wrote:

 A few thoughts:  I'm 6'3 with a 91pbh, short torsoed.  I would have 
 fit on a 64c but chose a 62c for a couple of reasons:  the top tube was 
 slightly shorter and fit by reach better and I wanted a bit more stand 
 over.  If you've done any challenging off-loading, you'll have experienced 
 the need to hop off the pedals and touch down on uneven ground.  If the 
 bike is on ground higher than where your feet land, a bit more standover 
 can be more uh. accommodating?  I'm also running 40c tires so that adds 
 to the equation somewhat.  On the road or light duty trails it's less of an 
 issue.  I think in the end what you'll be comfortable on depends on your 
 riding needs will be.

 Given what's been shared on this thread, I'd be inclined to look for a 
 trade for a 62c.

 On Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:53:39 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Hi there!

 Been lurking a while enjoying the discussion.  I'm going to be going to 
 look at a used Atlantis frame/fork tomorrow morning, reported to be a 64cm 
 and built for 700C wheels... looking at Riv's site it looks like that 
 isn't 
 a standard size, at least anymore.  My PBH is 92, 6' tall... might be a 
 bit 
 of a stretch for me so I'll have to see it in person.  The prospect of 
 maybe owning one of these fine frames is pretty cool.  Can anyone fill me 
 in on the 64cm size...?  Anyway, hopefully the seller measured 'large' or 
 I 
 shrink a bit tonight... :)  We'll see!

 Tony



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[RBW] Re: 20,000 miles of Rivendells

2013-08-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Yeah...  that is an impressive amount of use and an impressive stable of 
Riv's you have.  Thanks for sharing!

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[RBW] Re: Greetings! - 64cm Atlantis?

2013-08-06 Thread Deacon Patrick
I actually didn't know I'd be doing this much singletrack or that I'd even 
be able to ride single track except the gentle stuff. I talked with Grant 
and described the types of riding I wanted to do despite brain injury and 
constant neurological vertigo since 2002. Essentially I said I want to ride 
everything and be able to tour doing it, oh, and I want this to be the last 
bike I buy my entire life (I'm early 40's now). Grant said Hunqapillar.

I'd talk with Grant and share what you want to do. I suspect the off 
pavement touring and possible single track touring is what had Grant steer 
me to the Hunqapillar over the Atlantis (plus price and availability too).

With abandon,
Patrick

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 6:57:23 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Hi Patrick,

 How did you choose the Hunq as your go-to?  Is it just the amount of 
 off-road you do?

 Tony

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 2:55:22 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 I'm 6'-2 with a PBH of 90 and ride a 62 Hunqapillar (no idea how that 
 compares to the Atlantis). I do a significant amount of pretty technical 
 single track and I love the frame at this size. Not too big, not too small. 
 I wouldn't want it any bigger for testicular reasons, and and smaller for 
 ride and feel and stiffness reasons. I have two fingers worth of room in 
 stand over height at the middle of the TT.

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:39:19 PM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Tonester - your post echo's what I've been thinking exactly... 
 particularly the coming down on uneven ground bit.  Nice to hear from 
 someone in the same pbh range, I appreciate the comment!  I'm going to hold 
 off till I get a chance to chat with the Riv guys but you may be seeing a 
 WTT up soon...

 Tony


 On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:22:25 PM UTC-4, Tonester wrote:

 A few thoughts:  I'm 6'3 with a 91pbh, short torsoed.  I would have 
 fit on a 64c but chose a 62c for a couple of reasons:  the top tube was 
 slightly shorter and fit by reach better and I wanted a bit more stand 
 over.  If you've done any challenging off-loading, you'll have experienced 
 the need to hop off the pedals and touch down on uneven ground.  If the 
 bike is on ground higher than where your feet land, a bit more standover 
 can be more uh. accommodating?  I'm also running 40c tires so that 
 adds 
 to the equation somewhat.  On the road or light duty trails it's less of 
 an 
 issue.  I think in the end what you'll be comfortable on depends on your 
 riding needs will be.

 Given what's been shared on this thread, I'd be inclined to look for a 
 trade for a 62c.

 On Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:53:39 PM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote:

 Hi there!

 Been lurking a while enjoying the discussion.  I'm going to be going 
 to look at a used Atlantis frame/fork tomorrow morning, reported to be a 
 64cm and built for 700C wheels... looking at Riv's site it looks like 
 that 
 isn't a standard size, at least anymore.  My PBH is 92, 6' tall... might 
 be 
 a bit of a stretch for me so I'll have to see it in person.  The prospect 
 of maybe owning one of these fine frames is pretty cool.  Can anyone fill 
 me in on the 64cm size...?  Anyway, hopefully the seller measured 'large' 
 or I shrink a bit tonight... :)  We'll see!

 Tony



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[RBW] Re: Voiding the un-warranty

2013-08-06 Thread Mike
I wonder if 2014 will be the year of the Rivendell Sledgehammer?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2iUQqp-zU8

The capabilities of the Big Wheel fully realized:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vfg-c6RrP7A

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[RBW] Re: AHH 2.0 w/ Modern Looking Nitto Rack

2013-08-06 Thread SMP
Ah I see, so you already had the BM taillight on hand.

Did the taillight come with enough wiring to route all the way down the 
frame and fender, or did you have to buy any extension?  I know you 
mentioned using the Supernova quick disconnects... I was thinking of doing 
the same, because I have SS couplers.  (Might as well make everything 
breakable in half, right? Including the dynamo wiring)

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:35:52 AM UTC+2, Brian Campbell wrote:

 Here are a couple of bad photos of how I did it.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/76454470@N05/8358830287/

 It was a pretty simple job and I did not get worked up about it being 
 pro level work. I removed the existing light's internals, sawed the 
 Supernova tail light mounting tabs off so it would fit inside the housing, 
 ran the wire out the back and used a heavy duty 2 part epoxy to attach the 
 light the the back plate of the housing. after the epoxy cured. I 
 surrounded the light w/ silicone to take up some dead space and to help 
 adhere the light as well.

 Since I run my wire's externally, I ran the wire over the fender and down 
 the fender stay.


 On Monday, August 5, 2013 12:56:19 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 What a timely post!  I am actually in the same dilemma, where I have a 
 Supernova up front, and wanted to get a fender-mounted taillight.  Alas, I 
 only recently came to realize that my headlight is only compatible with a 
 Supernova tail light.  I had no idea you could place the Supernova 
 taillight into BM housing.  Do you have any up-close photos or a 'how to' 
 of this setup?

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 3:50:50 AM UTC+2, Brian Campbell wrote:

 I made some changes to my AHH. I finally caved in to function over form 
 and swapped the Paul Racer brakes for long reach Tektros. I will be using 
 this for commuting a couple of days a week, now that I have changed jobs. I 
 added the Nitto R-26 rear rack, SON 28 wide body hub in Open Pro, (Peter 
 White built) and put a Supernova tail light in the Busch  Mueller tail 
 light housing. I was unaware, previously, that the Supernova headlight and 
 taillight were a matched pair and had to be used toghther.  Ran the wiring 
 along the front rack w/ Supernova quick disconnects.

 The rack works fine with my size 11.5 feet and my Arkel Utility Basket 
 rear bags. I do wish I could mount it lower without havint to cut it but 
 the mounting tang gets hung up on the rear quick release. I mat still make 
 the cut in the future, we'll see. Hope this link works.


 http://s91.photobucket.com/user/bylar13/media/AHH/090_zps90e4fca5.jpg.html?sort=2o=0




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[RBW] Re: New blug question

2013-08-06 Thread Joe Bernard
Stops for a six-pack. Stops for a drink from the six-pack. Man, I really 
wish I had thought of doing that at least once before I quit drinking! :)
 
Joe living vicariously through Bernard
Vallejo, CA.

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:57:26 AM UTC-7, Jay B wrote:

 Cheers, indeed!  well done commuter vid.  and Eric, I believe that is Dan 
 Hicks singing Bottoms Up.  

 -Jay B.

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 8:29:04 PM UTC-4, EricP wrote:

 First off, really like the video.  Does a great job of showing how a 
 person can ride knowing the route like the back of a hand.  Although will 
 admit to being shocked (shocked, I say) that the bike actually has drop 
 bars.  On a Rivendell?  These days?
  
 But the question - who is performing the music?  Really like the song.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN



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[RBW] Re: Friction Brifter?

2013-08-06 Thread Joe Bernard
+1 for stem shifters. I have Simplex Retrofriction mounted on Riv's mounts, 
and it's pretty awesome. I use them with V-O Porteur bars so not a direct 
comparison, but I would think reaching back in the same plane from the 
hoods on drops would be better for you than the downward move to bar-cons. 

On Monday, August 5, 2013 6:50:08 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:

 Another possibility: Kelly Take Offs. IIRC, these were featured many moons 
 ago in a RR.
 http://kellybike.com/2nd_xtra_takeoff.html

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 6:13:41 AM UTC-4, Johnny Alien wrote:

 Those are a good suggestion. Cheaper would maybe be mount them to the 
 stem. 



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[RBW] Re: New blug question

2013-08-06 Thread Dave Rivbike
Ding ding! And the winner is Jay B with Bottoms Up by Dan Hicks and the 
Acoustic Warriors. Happened to be on the computer and the same length as 
the video. 
Thanks for the nice words.

- Dave All my bikes have dropshttp://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff1.htm 
Schonenberg


On Monday, August 5, 2013 5:29:04 PM UTC-7, EricP wrote:

 First off, really like the video.  Does a great job of showing how a 
 person can ride knowing the route like the back of a hand.  Although will 
 admit to being shocked (shocked, I say) that the bike actually has drop 
 bars.  On a Rivendell?  These days?
  
 But the question - who is performing the music?  Really like the song.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN


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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendells 68cm - three of them sort of

2013-08-06 Thread davidfrench
Good luck on the sale.
If I wasn't building my own bike for tall with proportionate wheels, I'd 
jump on the Quickbeam!
:-)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Kinda OT but Kinda ON-T: Riv'd Ritchey Road Bike

2013-08-06 Thread Greg J
I have a fillet brazed Ritchey from 1980, with no serial number either and 
similar graphics.  (Mine came with the original invoice to the original 
purchaser.)  I think yours must be eariler than mine.  It is a fantastic 
riding bike! 
 

On Monday, August 5, 2013 4:39:24 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:

 Patrick, I really like the way it handles. I would place it in between my 
 AHH (on the more conservative side) and the 1978 Riv'ed Raleigh Pro that I 
 have (More Race-like). The Long chainstays and low bottom bracket make feel 
 very stable but the steering is a good bit quicker than my Riv. Fun bike!

 On Monday, August 5, 2013 9:57:14 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote: 

 Me, too. How does the Ritchey handle?

 On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 6:13 AM, Ron Mc bulld...@gmail.com wrote:

 good job - I like your taste in drivetrains 


  

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[RBW] Re: AHH 2.0 w/ Modern Looking Nitto Rack

2013-08-06 Thread David Hays
Is that an Acorn Boxy Rando bag on the front rack?
David

On Sunday, August 4, 2013 9:50:50 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:

 I made some changes to my AHH. I finally caved in to function over form 
 and swapped the Paul Racer brakes for long reach Tektros. I will be using 
 this for commuting a couple of days a week, now that I have changed jobs. I 
 added the Nitto R-26 rear rack, SON 28 wide body hub in Open Pro, (Peter 
 White built) and put a Supernova tail light in the Busch  Mueller tail 
 light housing. I was unaware, previously, that the Supernova headlight and 
 taillight were a matched pair and had to be used toghther.  Ran the wiring 
 along the front rack w/ Supernova quick disconnects.

 The rack works fine with my size 11.5 feet and my Arkel Utility Basket 
 rear bags. I do wish I could mount it lower without havint to cut it but 
 the mounting tang gets hung up on the rear quick release. I mat still make 
 the cut in the future, we'll see. Hope this link works.


 http://s91.photobucket.com/user/bylar13/media/AHH/090_zps90e4fca5.jpg.html?sort=2o=0




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Re: [RBW] 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-06 Thread mr.trout
I just paid the custom fee. And thanks, the bike has seen plenty of Iowa back 
road gravel.

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[RBW] Re: New blug question

2013-08-06 Thread Chris Lampe 2
I really enjoy watching bicycle POV videos so I look forward to seeing more 
on the Blug.  There's a fella who lives in New Orleans and hangs out in the 
commuting section of another forum and he's posted tons of videos and he's 
made it an art form.  He also has a knack for picking just the right song 
to go with his rides.  Fun stuff!
 

On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:29:04 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote:

 First off, really like the video.  Does a great job of showing how a 
 person can ride knowing the route like the back of a hand.  Although will 
 admit to being shocked (shocked, I say) that the bike actually has drop 
 bars.  On a Rivendell?  These days?
  
 But the question - who is performing the music?  Really like the song.
 Eric Platt
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[RBW] Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread SMP
I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to 
find it here.

I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
shape.

I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
 I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
(although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
place.

Your thoughts?

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[RBW] FS: 59c A. Homer Hilsen

2013-08-06 Thread PeterG


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B_aiuksWz7I/UgFmPi93xzI/AFY/EzZ_eH1hb6E/s1600/008.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ToGh11r-HaM/UgFmcbDw0_I/AFg/7aZ4vU5Hanw/s1600/012.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-muvD0AFnqC4/UgFmmzBTfVI/AFo/VVX9DNrDjso/s1600/011.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-374o1uvYAFI/UgFmEESpCYI/AFQ/g-wWCtQYuk4/s1600/007.JPG
I posted this once but really didn't have any good pictures of it, 
soI'll try again. I purchased this bike new a couple of months ago. I 
have another Hilsen and was planning on using this one for a road bike with 
light weight parts. I have since gone another way and have this bike for 
sale nowSome parts I added and they are slightly used (wheel set has 
about 500 miles on it, handlebars are from another bike and fenders are 
from my other hilsen). ALL parts are either new or hardly used. The saddle 
does have some wear but no ass marks and still in great shape. wheels are 
DT Swiss synergy Velocity and nearly new. 9 speed triple dura ace bar end 
shifters. New bar tape. Peddles  water bottle cages are NOT included.Open 
to REASONABLE offers. I was asking $2999.maybe it was too much? If 
someone prefers Albatross bar set-up, I have that too and can swap out the 
cockpit. There are Pasela 32's on it but if you prefer i have nearly new 
Marathon 47's (yes, they fit with fenders off). As usual, contact me 
off-line

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gotham Cargo Crate

2013-08-06 Thread SMP
I decided to go with the wald basket.  Luckily, I was able to find my old 
medium one in the basement.  Just ordered a Mark's rack to seal the deal!

On Sunday, August 4, 2013 1:50:11 AM UTC+2, SMP wrote:

 If I go for the medium Wald, I would definitely use some sort of front 
 rack to stabilize it.  Regarding the total weight though, I would think 
 that a Crate with aluminum struts would add about the same amount of weight 
 as a Mark's mini + Wald medium, don't you think?

 On Sunday, August 4, 2013 12:53:43 AM UTC+2, blakcloud wrote:

 My wife on her Betty uses a Mark's mini with a medium Wald basket and it 
 works fine for the light loads she rides with. I on the other hand have the 
 same basket but attached to a Gomah porteur rack. This works extremely well 
 for me and I can carry quite a bit. My bike is not a Riv so handling might 
 be different for those on Riv's, but barely noticeable until it hits 15 
 pounds and more. With the weight I carry I can ride no hands with no ill 
 effect on the steering.

 To the OP, I saw your photos with the Wald but as someone else already 
 said, having the weight lower would help tremendously. As much as I like 
 the crates, I would be concerned with total weight of the bike.  I would 
 definitely go with a front rack and then attaching whatever you want.



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[RBW] Re: 56 cm Sam Hillborne or wait for the 58 cm?

2013-08-06 Thread Michael


 @mr.trout:

 
I thought you were gonna say it is an orange Sam that got sun faded to 
yellow from all your riding on it. ha ha!
 
I was thinking of my next bike I might do a custom color. Only thing I can 
think of that I would like is cream headtube with metallic aqua frame. Like 
a Bleriot.

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[RBW] Re: AHH 2.0 w/ Modern Looking Nitto Rack

2013-08-06 Thread Ron Mc
answering out of turn, I believe it is in fact an Acorn Boxy Rando bag.  

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 3:05:25 PM UTC-5, David Hays wrote:

 Is that an Acorn Boxy Rando bag on the front rack?
 David

 On Sunday, August 4, 2013 9:50:50 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:

 I made some changes to my AHH. I finally caved in to function over form 
 and swapped the Paul Racer brakes for long reach Tektros. I will be using 
 this for commuting a couple of days a week, now that I have changed jobs. I 
 added the Nitto R-26 rear rack, SON 28 wide body hub in Open Pro, (Peter 
 White built) and put a Supernova tail light in the Busch  Mueller tail 
 light housing. I was unaware, previously, that the Supernova headlight and 
 taillight were a matched pair and had to be used toghther.  Ran the wiring 
 along the front rack w/ Supernova quick disconnects.

 The rack works fine with my size 11.5 feet and my Arkel Utility Basket 
 rear bags. I do wish I could mount it lower without havint to cut it but 
 the mounting tang gets hung up on the rear quick release. I mat still make 
 the cut in the future, we'll see. Hope this link works.


 http://s91.photobucket.com/user/bylar13/media/AHH/090_zps90e4fca5.jpg.html?sort=2o=0




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[RBW] Re: FS: 64cm Quickbeam FFHS - Orange

2013-08-06 Thread Marty
email sent, you have first dibs.

On Sunday, August 4, 2013 5:51:07 PM UTC-5, Marty wrote:

 Planning a custom, so I am parting with this great frameset. Excellent 
 condition, paint and decals are great. No dents, no accidents. Chris King 
 2nut headset included. $650 + shipping. Pics here:

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/sets/72157634928977221/








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[RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread Kieran J
I have a set of the Berthoud 40mm fenders, and they are GREAT. Super solid, 
look great, about the same price as SKS or thereabouts.
My $0.02.

KJ



On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to 
 find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?


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[RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread William
All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be your 
best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, and 
your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.  

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to 
 find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread Christopher Chen
I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which rotate
the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber flap
might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift up a
bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially jumping
down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before
falling.


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:

 All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be your
 best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, and
 your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm).
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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[RBW] Re: QVARE ALICUNDE EMAS

2013-08-06 Thread Michael


 hy-way uy-bay nywhere-ay lse-eay?

 
and:
 
lways-ay illing-way  ver-eay ble ay.

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[RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread Michael Hechmer
I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb?  My 
experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than 
plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.

Michael

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to 
 find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?


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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread Christopher Chen
If you roll right off of a high enough curb, you stand the risk of the
fenders striking the top of the curb as you descend, especially at *low*
speeds. I've had it happen. The trick is to get out in front of the curb
enough to avoid whacking the fender. So either you speed up a bit, or you
jump off.

(for me anyway)


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Michael Hechmer mhech...@gmail.com wrote:

 I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb?  My
 experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than
 plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.

 Michael


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm).
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: New blug question

2013-08-06 Thread Eric Platt
Dave,

Thanks.  Haven't really listened much to Dan Hicks.  It was a good tune.

(Am waiting for the video with music by fiddler and singer Suzy Thompson.)
Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Chris Lampe 2 clampe9...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I really enjoy watching bicycle POV videos so I look forward to seeing
 more on the Blug.  There's a fella who lives in New Orleans and hangs out
 in the commuting section of another forum and he's posted tons of videos
 and he's made it an art form.  He also has a knack for picking just the
 right song to go with his rides.  Fun stuff!


 On Monday, August 5, 2013 7:29:04 PM UTC-5, EricP wrote:

 First off, really like the video.  Does a great job of showing how a
 person can ride knowing the route like the back of a hand.  Although will
 admit to being shocked (shocked, I say) that the bike actually has drop
 bars.  On a Rivendell?  These days?

 But the question - who is performing the music?  Really like the song.
 Eric Platt
 St. Paul, MN

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread William
I agree with Christopher.  The other thing I found with a long front fender 
is I can't put the bike on my Yakima Roof Rack.  With the front wheel off 
the fender hits the car-roof before the fork tips reach.  So with my 
longboard bike, I just don't plan on putting it on the roof.  For my Honjo 
bike, I redrilled holes with the fender rotated far enough forward that it 
clears, and I'll take up the extra space with a home-made flap to save my 
feet from spray

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:12:57 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 If you roll right off of a high enough curb, you stand the risk of the 
 fenders striking the top of the curb as you descend, especially at *low* 
 speeds. I've had it happen. The trick is to get out in front of the curb 
 enough to avoid whacking the fender. So either you speed up a bit, or you 
 jump off.

 (for me anyway)


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  wrote:

 I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb? 
  My experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than 
 plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.

 Michael


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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[RBW] Alba Sam 25 mile ride ruined

2013-08-06 Thread Michael
Just some fun shots of ruins on a ride a coupla weeks ago on the Alba Sam.
 
An abandoned looking bar and a 100 year old seminary:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/70237737@N00/sets/72157634819512093/

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[RBW] Re: Alba Sam 25 mile ride ruined

2013-08-06 Thread Michael


 PS - the thick US10$ hooded, deep-billed, reflective stripped, 
 cycling poncho my wife brought back from China worked fantastically.

Now I just have to wait for the MUSA Splats to come in the mail and I will 
be good to go. 

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[RBW] Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-06 Thread Mark Taintor
I have a new 56 cm Sam that's going to be built up in the next week or so,
and I've got a couple questions about tires and wheels for it:

1. I'll be putting on Longboard fenders and was wondering if 40 mm Marathon
Supremes would work with them. Would it be better to run the 35 mm
Supremes? I know there's clearance for 40 mm tires on the Hillborne but
don't know if that is with/without fenders.

2. Anybody ever put 650B wheels on a 56 Sam? Looking on the Riv website at
the page for the Betty Foy, it says that the Betty and the Sam can take the
same volume tires. The Betty mostly uses 650B wheels. As of now I'm
planning on 700c wheels, but am intrigued with 650B. Thoughts?

Thanks,
Mark

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread Benz, Sunnyvale, CA
On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:19:44 PM UTC-7, William wrote:

 [...] I redrilled holes with the fender rotated far enough forward that it 
 clears, and I'll take up the extra space with a home-made flap to save my 
 feet from spray


This trick will also mitigate the fender hitting the curb even if you ride 
down the curb slowly. 

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dYPgiBXUw40/UgGaqrjVsII/AFA/r8Phr6oy7YU/s1600/Atlantis_Apr2013_DSC2483-X2.jpg

*Home-made flap made from polyurethane-coated nylon fabric from 
McMaster-Carr, item 8809K31 at less than $5 for a 61 x 12 x 0.022 thick 
piece. It's thin enough to cut with a sharp pair of scissors but 
substantial enough to block spray. Cut it to within an inch off the ground 
as it will flap a bit in the wind.*

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[RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread John Lee
A slightly different use case... one thing that's kept me away from 
aluminum and even stainless steel fenders is my need to move my bike(s) up 
and down elevators every day. Ahhh. City living. Not all elevators are 
sized for convenient bike transport, so fenders sometimes get banged around 
and squished.

Plastic fenders spring back, but what would happen to metal fenders?

On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem to 
 find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?


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[RBW] What happened to Foss tubes?

2013-08-06 Thread JL
I remember the mention about Foss tubes not living up to the hype.  Anyone use 
these tubes still?  Did people expect them to be self sealing vs. easy to 
patch?  

What is the new scoop on tubes these days?

Jason
SF,Ca

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[RBW] FS: Rivendell Rambouillet 50cm

2013-08-06 Thread Christopher Murray
 Hello All, 

50cm Rivendell Ram for sale. It is from the stock blue and we are the original 
owners. It is in brand new condition and was ridden less than 30 miles- grad 
school, baby, and another on the way means it just never got ridden. Always 
stored inside. Everything is stock as it came from Rivendell with pink bar tape 
and interrupter levers added. No pedals or saddle. There is a small 
discoloration on the cream head tube that is only obvious if you look for it. 
It came this way and it is just a variation in the paint color. I would like to 
get $2300 for it and that includes professional packing and shipping. I am in 
Bismarck, North Dakota and would be willing to drive as far as Fargo for a 
local sale. I figure $2100 for a local sale? Email for pictures or with 
questions. Will consider any reasonable offers. Would like to see this bike 
ridden and not sitting in my garage.

Cheers! 
Chris

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[RBW] H. Homer Hilsen goes to the North Country. A ride report and flick link

2013-08-06 Thread Iron Rider
For those who may be interested: 
http://eprider.blogspot.com/2013/08/a-notch-above-north-country-600k-and.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread Jimmy Hutch
I love fancy bike stuff.  I also do lots of dumb shit (going down stairs, 
jamming my bike onto my roof rack, wheelies, etc.)  The SKS chromoplastic (or 
whatever) mudguards on my AHH always seem to bounce back. I'm quite certain 
aluminum or steel mudguards would be completely destroyed by now.  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread Kelly
The SKS longboards have the quick disconnects and move right out of way nicely. 
 

Kelly

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[RBW] Ride in Vancouver BC: Country Bike in the City Ramble, Sunday August 11th

2013-08-06 Thread Shawn Granton
Hello Rivsters-

I'm heading up to Vancouver for the weekend to catch the tail-end of 
Velopalooza. http://velopalooza.ca/
And because I'm me, I decided to hold a Country Bike in the City Ramble 
when I'm there! Hope to see some of you Lower Mainland folks there.

Here are the pertinent details:
*Rough Stuff Country Bike in the City Ramble*
Sunday, August 11, 11:00am - 4:00pm. Meet at 11am, depart at 11:30am.
Meet At: Volunteer Park, 2855 Point Grey Road (Near the intersection of W 
1st Ave and Macdonald St.)

A 20 to 30 km ramble exploring the country aspects in the city while 
riding Country bikes. Expect a good deal of gravel/dirt action, climbs 
(you can walk it if you have to), and places you may not have thought to 
exist. We'll have food/picnic breaks along the way. Ride a bike geared 
towards comfort, not speed, and one that can handle off-road elements. 
Moderate pace, no one left behind. Lycra and carbon, no, shellac and 
seersucker, yes. Ride not a loop.

yours,
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendells 68cm - three of them sort of

2013-08-06 Thread Kelly
Thanks... No offers or bites yet.   I did change the Quickbeam to albas tach or 
whatever they called them. Comfy.
So I dad to suffer
25 mile ride on qb wed
30 mile ride on ahh thurs
35 mile ride on Bomba sat
And a beautiful 36 mile ride tonight on the ram.   

Leaving Friday for 530 mile tour on the Bomba ... Selling would be nice but 
riding them is nicer.
.still for sale for now

Kelly

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[RBW] Tires/Wheels for new Sam Hillborne

2013-08-06 Thread Kelly
My wife has 700x40 supremes under longboards on her Atlantis and I've run them 
on my Ahh so you should be fine.

Kelly

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[RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread SMP
Hi Michael,

I think, at least for the Al fenders I have on my 26 wheels, the front 
fender hits the curb.  It may just be something realized in the smaller 
wheel models for Honjo?



On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:08:55 AM UTC+2, Michael Hechmer wrote:

 I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb?  My 
 experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than 
 plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.

 Michael

 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?



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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread SMP
Thanks, all for your considerations.  I see many of you are recommending 
the SKS longboard model, but I've already tried 
thesehttp://www.flickr.com/photos/sumehra/5556633615/in/set-72157626217977955 
 
It is very difficult to fit a fender made for 700c wheels fit onto a 26 
wheel, and it's 45mm width is probably also too narrow for my 26x1.5 
tires.  I also had trouble with the length of the front longboard fender 
hitting the curb, and the fender popping out of the 'socket' (which, in 
retrospect, is preferred to the alternate option of bending an Al fender 
out of shape).  This is why, for SKS fenders, I am specifically, only 
considering the silver P55 of the chromoplastic model.

The more I read your comments, the more I am inclined towards going for the 
SKS, just... the Gilles Berthoud's are so pretty!  If I go with the GB, it 
will be the 50mm short variety.  Not sure what short entails, but after 
having two sets of too-long fenders, I'm opting for short + mudflap if 
necessary.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 1:04:12 AM UTC+2, Christopher Chen wrote:

 I have the longboards on my Hilsen, with sheldon fender nuts, which rotate 
 the fenders to make them even lower, and I have to say, the rubber flap 
 might bend, but I go up and down curbs all the time. One tip--I lift up a 
 bit on the handlebar before descending the curb, essentially jumping 
 down, which gives the bike a chance to make some forward movement before 
 falling.


 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 3:59 PM, William tape...@gmail.com 
 javascript:wrote:

 All the metal ones are pretty darn long.  SKS non-longboards might be 
 your best bet to have the curb-hoppability you miss and the safety of a QR, 
 and your LBS will more likely be familiar with their installation.  


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:55:38 PM UTC-7, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gilles Berthoud stainless steel vs SKS Chromoplastic fenders

2013-08-06 Thread SMP
Hmm... that is a good idea regarding redrilling the holes on the Honjos, 
and rotating them further forward!  I was thinking about maybe cutting the 
fender, but never even considered this option that seems much cleaner.

On Wednesday, August 7, 2013 2:19:44 AM UTC+2, William wrote:

 I agree with Christopher.  The other thing I found with a long front 
 fender is I can't put the bike on my Yakima Roof Rack.  With the front 
 wheel off the fender hits the car-roof before the fork tips reach.  So with 
 my longboard bike, I just don't plan on putting it on the roof.  For my 
 Honjo bike, I redrilled holes with the fender rotated far enough forward 
 that it clears, and I'll take up the extra space with a home-made flap to 
 save my feet from spray

 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 5:12:57 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:

 If you roll right off of a high enough curb, you stand the risk of the 
 fenders striking the top of the curb as you descend, especially at *low* 
 speeds. I've had it happen. The trick is to get out in front of the curb 
 enough to avoid whacking the fender. So either you speed up a bit, or you 
 jump off.

 (for me anyway)


 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Michael Hechmer mhec...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm a little perplexed by your post.  Is your fender hitting the curb? 
  My experience is that properly installed Al fenders are more stable than 
 plastic.  That said steel fenders are more stable than Al.

 Michael


 On Tuesday, August 6, 2013 4:55:38 PM UTC-4, SMP wrote:

 I was hoping to find a previous thread on this topic, but I cannot seem 
 to find it here.

 I currently have Honjo hammered fenders on my custom riv, but the front 
 fender is so long and the aluminum is so fragile that it doesn't allow me 
 to hop up and down curbs without having the whole thing get bent out of 
 shape.

 I was hoping to move onto something more durable, and am contemplating 
 between SKS Chromoplastic (26 P55) and Gilles Berthoud fenders (26 
 50mm). 
  I am thinking the former would be a good option to improve the 
 practicality, tone down the showyness, and reduce the chance of theft 
 (although I live in one of the safest cities in the world -- Zurich, not 
 sure if this should be a legitimate concern); however, the latter just 
 seems to be a nice and durable option for a 'high end' bike.

 Also, I am not very mechanically inclined, so that is also another 
 consideration.  I would have an LBS install this, but if something happens 
 in the middle of nowhere, I would think the SKS would be easier to pop 
 into 
 place.

 Your thoughts?

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[RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
I've got a Toyo-built 64cm Atlantis (#168), it's in good shape overall but 
does show signs of use, chain-suck scars and dark spots mid-fork where 
p-clamps held a front rack for a long time.  Ultegra headset, unknown 
bottom bracket included...

I'm going to go ahead and start building this puppy up, because I think 
it'll work for me.  But on the off chance someone out there with an 
Atlantis or possibly a Hunq in the 60-62cm sizes wanted to trade for the 
next size up I figured I would throw it out there.  I'm located in the 
Washington DC area, mid-atlantic would be preferrable for an in person 
exchange but I'd be willing to discuss otherwise.  Shoot me an email at 
vpik01(at)gmail.com,  THANKS!

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Re: [RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-06 Thread James Warren
Tony, 
Careful. If you're worried the 64 cm Atlantis will be too big, the 62 cm Hunq 
will feel even bigger. This is because the Hunq's top tube slopes up 6 degrees, 
while the Atlantis's slopes up 2.5 degrees. Every degree translates to 1 cm of 
handlebar height. For me, the 62 Hunq fits like a theoretical 65.5 cm Atlantis, 
handlebar heightwise. Also, 62 cm Hunq's top tube is quite long, longer than 64 
cm Atlantis.
Simply put, my 62 Hunq is a larger bike than my 64 Atlantis. High bars are 
unavoidable. But it's cool that on this big Hunq I have a little more stand 
over clearance, as a result of the big upslope angle and it's shortened seat 
tube.

If you're trying to go down 1 size, you want 61 cm Atlantis or 58 cm 
Hunqapillar.

-Jim W.


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On Aug 6, 2013, at 10:14 PM, Tony DeFilippo vpi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've got a Toyo-built 64cm Atlantis (#168), it's in good shape overall but 
 does show signs of use, chain-suck scars and dark spots mid-fork where 
 p-clamps held a front rack for a long time.  Ultegra headset, unknown bottom 
 bracket included...
 
 I'm going to go ahead and start building this puppy up, because I think it'll 
 work for me.  But on the off chance someone out there with an Atlantis or 
 possibly a Hunq in the 60-62cm sizes wanted to trade for the next size up I 
 figured I would throw it out there.  I'm located in the Washington DC area, 
 mid-atlantic would be preferrable for an in person exchange but I'd be 
 willing to discuss otherwise.  Shoot me an email at vpik01(at)gmail.com,  
 THANKS!
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Re: [RBW] WTT - 64cm Atlantis

2013-08-06 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Jim - Thanks for the info I think you are right.  I threw in the Hunq 
possibility without really understanding the differences that would change 
the fit geometry... definitely looking to reduce the standover height by a 
smidge if possible.  High bars don't bother me to much, in fact on my 64cm 
trek I'm maxing out a Nitto Technomic with some upside down albatross bars.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rSkmaqP1psc/UgHc7rBqBvI/CiI/ooiq3-CNZiI/s1600/RAD_7351.jpg

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