Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by BM. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt epericmpl...@gmail.comwrote: One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.comwrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- -- Anne Paulson It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. -- You received this
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
Bill, don't you know you're supposed to be in one camp or the other? How can we argue with viewpoints like this? I had a low trail, skinny tubed (7/4/7 non-OS) Rawland Nordavinden at the same time as my Surly Crosscheck (9/6/9 OS). Yes, the Rawland did indeed have a livelier ride that I enjoyed, and it steered well with the low trail front end. But I ultimately sold the Rawland and kept the CC, because while they both rode well, I preferred the versatility of the CC (tire clearance, single speedability, strong brakes) over the more focused Nord. Eric Daume Dublin, OH 30 days of biking and blogging! bikingtoplay.blogspot.com On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: No not so much better for me. Different? yes. Fantastic? yes. Worth a slot in my stable? absolutely. So much better than my Hilsen or my Hillborne or my Bombadil that I want to get rid of those awesome bikes? No. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
the entire concept of choosing what you're going to drink so that others can see you drinking it is too weird for words On Thursday, April 17, 2014 3:39:59 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: So, what do normcore fashionistas drink? Hipsters seemed to like Pabst Blue Ribbon, I saw many bars switch taps to PBR to cater to them; do normcore people like bud lite, diet cokeselzer water? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
Eric and Anne. What dynamo hubs are you using with which specific lights (a few Cyo models now)? Might help to have that information. David Chicago On Friday, April 18, 2014 5:56:19 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by BM. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
[RBW] Re: WTB: Bottle Dyno and Headlamp
I'd second what Ian said. Bottle dynamos CAN be fun on certain bikes, but a dynamo hub is going to be more reliable and less to worry about. David Chicago On Thursday, April 17, 2014 11:57:44 PM UTC-5, IanA wrote: If sold on a dynamo system, one might consider waiting a bit longer and just starting with a hub dynamo set-up. If not running a tail-light, the wiring is simple. For example, a complete wheel with a Sanyo hub on eBay is available as low as $95 shipped http://www.ebay.com/itm/IDC-Stout-dynohub-hub-dynamo-700c-front-wheel-36h-silver-/281283528437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item417dce06f5 I have no experience with that wheel, so don't know how it will hold up, but maybe someone on the list has been using one? Paired with an Eyc headlamp from BM available from Peter White for $73 (an older BM Cyo is also a good price) would be a relatively low cost dynamo lighting system I have an Eyc on my commuter and it is an excellent light, but there is flickering at low speeds. On another bike I have a Phillips Saferide which doesn't seem to flicker once the capacitor is charged. For technical stuff, I'm not convinced dynamo lights are the way to go. The beam is road focused and relatively narrow and overhead hazards like tree branches are not well lit. But, for commuting, lights on demand is a fantastic convenience. If only a couple of hours light at a time is needed and mostly for riding technical trails, a rechargeable battery set-up might be the way to go. I also have a rechargeable battery light, a something or other MityCross which is brilliant (literally and metaphorically) until the battery dies. The battery actually has a reserve so the light will work for another half an hour or so with the light on the lowest setting. But, I'm a strong proponent of dynamo lighting and there's nothing to say that a person can't have both. Run the dynamo headlight all the time and just use the battery light to augment visibility for the steep descents or the twisty trails. Not what you asked, so I hope some unsolicited opinion is okay.. my 2c anyway. IanA. On Thursday, April 17, 2014 5:44:32 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: I'm looking to test dyno lighting and have a system that works while I save for a new front wheel. ideal candidate is a hearty front headlamp and bottle dyno that provided quality illumination for unlighted country roads and also hearty enough to handle single track (though not while in use). I can pay next week around April 23-25. My fall back option is a battery powered unit for $60. Thanks! With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
Flashing or unsteady light at low speeds would be a problem that would end my ride, that is true. Excellent point to consider, considering most rides start out with climbs from my house. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:56:19 AM UTC-6, EricP wrote: Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by BM. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comjavascript: wrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch
[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
Pabst ? Ahahaahahaha ! Back in my day , the 60/70's , I had a friend whos Dad was a Pabst distributor , so their basement was like a bar with Pabst stuff everywhere . . . I mean all all sorts of stuff. And the fridge was always stocked with Pabst and Pop. Oh yes . . . and the bottles were returnables , remember those ? Re-cycling before the word concept was even a concept . And I still swear to this day, anything out of returnable bottles tasted better than any disposable bottle. Even Blatz Beer , by the case thank you :)And Orange Crush :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm
'The precious'. -love it!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm
Gollum headbadge and a ring seat tube ornament... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Sale ends in one hour!
I know this has been covered before but in my trollings on ebay it always makes me chuckle. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-SMALL-BLUE-/271314266688?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972a40 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Sale ends in one hour!
that's quite a savings On Friday, April 18, 2014 9:53:58 AM UTC-5, Peter M wrote: I know this has been covered before but in my trollings on ebay it always makes me chuckle. http://www.ebay.com/itm/RIVENDELL-WATER-BOTTLE-BIDON-MADE-BY-SPECIALIZED-SMALL-BLUE-/271314266688?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item3f2b972a40 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
I would think Clearly Canadian or New York Seltzer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
On 4/18/14, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I would think Clearly Canadian or New York Seltzer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
President's Choice Diet Cola On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote: I would think Clearly Canadian or New York Seltzer -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't like one of my bikes is that I don't know any better, and that usually draws me in to a argument. :-) On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:13:28 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: Bill, don't you know you're supposed to be in one camp or the other? How can we argue with viewpoints like this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
Snoorr On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Bill Lindsay tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't like one of my bikes is that I don't know any better, and that usually draws me in to a argument. :-) On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:13:28 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: Bill, don't you know you're supposed to be in one camp or the other? How can we argue with viewpoints like this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm
Those two ornaments would definitely get the attention of the Tolkein estate. Heck, don't be surprised if they claim to hold the legal rights to the word precious. On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:32:25 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Gollum headbadge and a ring seat tube ornament... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
Snore!?!?!? This is the opportunity to run and get the popcorn out for the Great Trail Debate of 2014. On Friday, April 18, 2014 9:18:26 AM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote: Snoorr On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Bill Lindsay tape...@gmail.comjavascript: wrote: Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't like one of my bikes is that I don't know any better, and that usually draws me in to a argument. :-) On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:13:28 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: Bill, don't you know you're supposed to be in one camp or the other? How can we argue with viewpoints like this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- I want the kind of six pack you can't drink. -- Micah -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm
Uh-m. MY precious. Mine. Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! Mine! MINE! My Preess-iouuusss.sss..sss. And while I think I possess it, the truth is it possesses me. Sardonic grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:30:57 AM UTC-6, Tony DeFilippo wrote: 'The precious'. -love it!!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm
It's that Peter Jackson fella you need to worry about! On Friday, April 18, 2014 9:45:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Those two ornaments would definitely get the attention of the Tolkein estate. Heck, don't be surprised if they claim to hold the legal rights to the word precious. On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:32:25 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Gollum headbadge and a ring seat tube ornament... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
I don't know what my bike's trail is, but whatever it is, I like it. On Friday, April 18, 2014 11:16:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't like one of my bikes is that I don't know any better, and that usually draws me in to a argument. :-) On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:13:28 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: Bill, don't you know you're supposed to be in one camp or the other? How can we argue with viewpoints like this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php trail is the opposite of what it sounds like. High offset fork means low-trail and give it a stable on-center feel. Racing bikes are more aggressive, steer quickly, and turn hard with any lean or steering input. On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:25:47 PM UTC-5, RJM wrote: I don't know what my bike's trail is, but whatever it is, I like it. On Friday, April 18, 2014 11:16:22 AM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote: Don't worry, Eric. Any zealot from either camp can chirp in and tell me that I don't like one of my bikes, or can tell me that the reason I don't like one of my bikes is that I don't know any better, and that usually draws me in to a argument. :-) On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:13:28 AM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote: Bill, don't you know you're supposed to be in one camp or the other? How can we argue with viewpoints like this? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
I've found that most of us adjust fairly quickly to either design and can be happy with either. I ended up with a preference for flexier bikes and the low trail design works better when carrying a load with a lighter, more flexy frame. The bike can use lighter tubing when weight distribution is considered. Also, to me the steering quickness of the low trail bikes is a trait I like, especially in fast sweeping turns. I also think that bikes climb faster when designed to match your body size and riding style. But to get this you almost have a custom frame made unless you are lucky enough to find a production frame that works. Like I would prefer a Hilsen for touring and rough riding, but I would want the tire clearance and canti brakes of an Atlantis without the beefier frame. Yea... and Bill is too PC to admit his real preferences! ~mike Carlsbad Ca. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:08:22 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Anyone here own a low-trail/ lightest tubing bike? Like the Herses and Singers and the new MAP SP, Boulder bikes, etc.? Do you find them really that much better performing (faster, flexier, planier, efficient) than your oversized steel tubing bikes, as I have read about in reviews of them? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBaseutm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid=CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
I'm using a SON dynamo, and and older light. I don't remember which light it is, but it's five or six years old. Trying to figure out what light to install on my new bike. It has to be something that clamps on the bars. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:55 AM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote: Eric and Anne. What dynamo hubs are you using with which specific lights (a few Cyo models now)? Might help to have that information. David Chicago On Friday, April 18, 2014 5:56:19 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by BM. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.com wrote: One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this
[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
Peter Yes, you can run panniers Do you have the Piccolo already? If not, buy mine for cheap. My kids have outgrown it. I have two moose racks so you can set up two bikes for one Piccolo When the Piccolo is on there, you just hang your pannier on there as if the Piccolo wasn't there. It totally works. The only consideration is that your hooks are big enough to fit around the fairly chubby tubing of the moose rack. Bill On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBaseutm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid=CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
Peter, The one that Bikeman has does not look like it'd work with panniers, this one would. http://penncycle.com/product/burley-tailwind-rack-161502-1.htm?variations=176249gclid=CNqLyrPr6r0CFcRefgodLF8A7Q ~Hugh On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBaseutm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid=CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
I do have the piccolo already, sorry bill, free shipping from Amazon is too tempting. UPS prices just went up again, quietly of course. I was gonna go with the Minnehaha panniers from VO, I imagine I could just bend out the hooks on top if the tubing is too fat. Would love Sackvilles but they look like they need the whole top of the slab to work. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:10 PM, hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, The one that Bikeman has does not look like it'd work with panniers, this one would. http://penncycle.com/product/burley-tailwind-rack-161502-1.htm?variations=176249gclid=CNqLyrPr6r0CFcRefgodLF8A7Q ~Hugh On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBase; utm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid= CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
Hugh The Moose Rack, the one Bikeman has does work with panniers. The design detail that is hard to see in that photo is that the top rails on the rack platform jig-jag inward about a centimeter for the area where the piccolo clamp lives. For that reason the piccolo clamp is flush with the outer edge of the platform. So your pannier just hangs on there. The hooks have to be spaced correctly and have to be big enough to grab that tubing, but that's it. Bill On Friday, April 18, 2014 1:10:31 PM UTC-7, hsmitham wrote: Peter, The one that Bikeman has does not look like it'd work with panniers, this one would. http://penncycle.com/product/burley-tailwind-rack-161502-1.htm?variations=176249gclid=CNqLyrPr6r0CFcRefgodLF8A7Q ~Hugh On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:58:25 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBaseutm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid=CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
If flashing lights are a problem. I would skip a dyno for lights. Long, slow climbs will cause the light to pulse at low speed . Mayberry get a dyno hub and use it to charger a set of back up batteries? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] 26 wheel fenders (SKS)
Has anyone used the longboards on 26 wheels? Pics? What plastic fenders are recommended for the Compass 1.75 tires? I'm speeding up my wife's Bruce Gordon BLT and replacing the Marathons and V.O. stainless fenders. Thank you Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Bottle Dyno and Headlamp
A quality/bright battery light would be fantastic too. With abandon, Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 26 wheel fenders (SKS)
Jason- SKS recommends their P55 for 26 x 1.75 tires. Available in silver or black. But the P55s are standard length, not longboard, and come with no mudflaps. You could probably make longboard P45s work, but it may be tricky to get a good fender line. You'd be reducing the fender radius a bit (P45s are designed for midsize 700c tires). That said, I used P45 longboards over some 650 x 38b tires, and they fit pretty damn perfectly. The radius of 650b/584 is more than half the distance between 700c/622 and 26/559, on the small side. So, more than halfway to 26, and the fender line looks really good. YMMV. Tim On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:32 PM, jandrews_nyc jasonaschwa...@gmail.comwrote: Has anyone used the longboards on 26 wheels? Pics? What plastic fenders are recommended for the Compass 1.75 tires? I'm speeding up my wife's Bruce Gordon BLT and replacing the Marathons and V.O. stainless fenders. Thank you Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 26 wheel fenders (SKS)
I bet either the SKS P-55 or P-60 would work. Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 1:32:48 PM UTC-7, jandrews_nyc wrote: Has anyone used the longboards on 26 wheels? Pics? What plastic fenders are recommended for the Compass 1.75 tires? I'm speeding up my wife's Bruce Gordon BLT and replacing the Marathons and V.O. stainless fenders. Thank you Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
My first non-paper route job was at nine years old organizing the returned bottles at Cole's Market in Pleasanton, Ca. Fifteen dollars a week for about 5 hours of work per. I did it on my way home from school each day. I was rich. I bought cool bikes. These things start early, for some. And I always preferred RC Cola in the clear bottle. Chris Redding, Ca. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] found and lost: looking for that photo of...
Ok- now where'd I see that?... ;-) Just recently I clicked past a (older?) photo of someone's quite distinctive Riv Road(?) - painted a pumpkin orange w/ a blue headtube (think: Cheviot colors but gasp, dark ht.!). The build included a Mavic starfish crank prompting someone to quip Rivendell time trial bike? or somesuch. Which makes me think it had somehow floated to the surface over on the flickr, but I can't seem to find it again. Alas! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
I can confirm that the moose rack works with panniers with the piccolo installed. I have been doing this for many years, although my youngest is now on his own bike and likely won't be getting on the piccolo anymore. Greg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
Ha- Peter M is on top of this case and has found a different shot of, I believe, the same bike - now, who's is this?! Cyberstalking-ly, I think given Ms. Larson's locale this is somewhere abouts Eugene, Oregon: https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/7298584094/ =- Joe On 4/18/14, Joe Bunik jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Ok- now where'd I see that?... ;-) Just recently I clicked past a (older?) photo of someone's quite distinctive Riv Road(?) - painted a pumpkin orange w/ a blue headtube (think: Cheviot colors but gasp, dark ht.!). The build included a Mavic starfish crank prompting someone to quip Rivendell time trial bike? or somesuch. Which makes me think it had somehow floated to the surface over on the flickr, but I can't seem to find it again. Alas! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
My Ram also feels much quicker than my former Sam. I don't know if it's tubing or geometry, but the Sam, nice as it was, wasn't a fast road bike. I daresay that the Roadeo feels faster than the Ram. Regarding Riv versus low trail Rando: one thing that Riv has is a particular handling quality that I, for one, really like. I've not found this on other bikes, at least to the same degree (so much so that, even after 20 years, getting on one of the benchmark Rivs after riding other bikes for a while still surprises me with the difference in turn in and fit). I gather that this turn in quality is incompatible with optimum front load geometry. As to planing or at least bikes that feel faster, for me that is separate from handling, since I've ridden bikes whose handling I didn't particularly like that somehow encouraged me to go faster. I still think that fit and geometry in relation to build, gear choice and pedaling style play a part in this feeling. I at any rate haven't experienced planing in the sense of light tubing and speed -- don't know if the general feeling of a frame being faster counts as planing; the lightest frames I've ridden (at least, I assume that 531C standard gauge is lighter tubing than the Rivs I've owned) haven't felt particularly spritely. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:27 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't know about the rando bikes since I haven't owned one, but I will say that my Roadeo (ligher tubing) is faster feeling and quicker riding than my Sam Hillborne. But, I can't load up the Roadeo for camping like I can the Hillborne, which is certainly the more versatile bike. I don't know if the Roadeo has oversized tubing but it is a quick feeling bike and livelier than my hillborne, probably because of geometry and tubing differences. Could a rando bike be the end all be all for me? No, I don't think so. I need two, one for camping and one for club riding. I don't ride Rando events and would feel quite limited with just a handlebar bag for when I do go camping/touring, and I feel it may not be quite the best pick for club riding. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Heavy chain lubes for wet conditions.
Zack: I don't think we're really that far apart on waxing; just wanted to note the difference between hot waxing and wax-type, bottled lubes. I agree that heavy lubes work much better in the wet (at least, the light lubes and the wax I've used do not stand up well to our very occasional, but often very drenching, rainfalls). I do want to say that waxing, using a crockpot and master link, is not at all difficult or time consuming, and that it does have the advantage of keeping the outside of the chain very clean, nice if you ride in very sandy or dusty areas as I do. And I've never had to clean a waxed chain -- there isn't much on the outside to clean off! From all the gunk that, very eventually, gathers at the bottom of the crockpot, I infer that that the melted wax works as its own cleanser. For my part, I dither between the exterior cleanliness and relative ease of using hot wax, and the better lubrication (I think) and even easier method of simply wiping the chain on the bike, dripping lube, and wiping again. Both have resulted in the same chain life. On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 8:11 PM, Zack B zoombom...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 9:30 AM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.comwrote: Even as someone who is abandoning chain waxing, let me play devil's advocate. If you are going to disprove waxing, at least let it be done for the correct reasons. I'm not disproving it. I used waxed chains for years, including multiple beeswax recipes off the internet and this stuff: http://www.bikepro.com/products/chains/chainwax.html On the whole it was way more trouble than it was worth. It works, but heavy oil done properly works better. Boiling need not be complex at all; it is easier in fact than removing, scrubbing, replacing, and oiling. With a master link and a crockpot, it's easier than any method except the wipe, apply, wipe method. You have to clean off the chain to wax it, the same as you do otherwise. Boiling a can of wax is not easier than spraying a chain with WD-40 and then dripping Phils onto it. The latter can easily be done on the side of the road, as well. Further, I don't know that paraffin does not remain inside the links; there are people who claim to get consistent 4-5K miles out of waxed chains in varied conditions and use it faithfully for this very reason. Once the wax dries and becomes a solid, it won't move back into areas where it has been worn off the way oil will. Those areas are exactly where it is needed as a lubricant. You end up with a waxed chain that rides like an un-lubricated one. Lastly, don't conflate waxing with wax type lubrication. The whole point and benefit of waxing with paraffin or paraffin mixes is that it *does not*, repeat: *does not* create a coat on the outside of the chain. The stuff I used did. I would wipe it off while it was still warm. -- -Zack -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 26 Tire Suggestions?
It has been 10 years or so, but I did use these, as they were back then, on a beater with not unpleasant results. That is to say that my recollection of them is not of something horrible. I daresay they are not as nice as similarly wide Kojaks, which many praise. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Hugh Flynn hugfly...@gmail.com wrote: For a much lower-brow approach, does anyone have any experience with Continental Town and Country 26 x 1.9's? They are available from several sources for a relative song, and they seem to have a decent thread count, smooth profile, decent volume, and not soul-sucking flat protection. By all accounts they seem (on paper) to be a reasonable tire to consider. Does anyone have any real world experience with the Town and Country 1.9's? Hugh still 26 Flynn Newburyport, MA On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Dave Johnston wrote: I have the Kojacks 26x2.0 on my Atlantis and they are actually 44mm wide on 22.5mm rims. I have the Compass 26x1.75 on an XO-3 and they measure 43mm on 20mm rims. The Compass tires feel noticeably faster to me but it might be the bike not the tires. Maybe the X0-3 planes? Both bikes have drops but the XO-3 is a bit sportier geometry and build overall. -Dave J On Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:36:21 AM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote: Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I decided on Schwalbe Kojaks which should be ariving any day now. Once the build is entirely complete I'll post some pics. Thank again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
Yep. I've saved a few pics of this beauty because it's the best color combo I've seen on a Rivendell. https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/131505977/in/set-72057594118986144/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/2439636153/in/set-72057594118986144 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] 26 Tire Suggestions?
One more remark: from my experience with several sets of Big Apples of various sizes and types, and two sets of Kojaks: the benefit of these Schwalbes is that they have nice, supple sidewalls even with puncture layers under the tread, which I surmise accounts for their nice ride and their relative puncture resistance, even to goatheads. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 11:48 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.comwrote: I ran TCs on our tandem a while ago. They were fine. Nice smooth center tread with inverse tread on the shoulders. Not terribly supple, nor were the sidwalls robust, but that's a Conti weakness IMHO. Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Hugh Flynn hugfly...@gmail.com wrote: For a much lower-brow approach, does anyone have any experience with Continental Town and Country 26 x 1.9's? They are available from several sources for a relative song, and they seem to have a decent thread count, smooth profile, decent volume, and not soul-sucking flat protection. By all accounts they seem (on paper) to be a reasonable tire to consider. Does anyone have any real world experience with the Town and Country 1.9's? Hugh still 26 Flynn Newburyport, MA On Apr 14, 2014, at 8:14 PM, Dave Johnston wrote: I have the Kojacks 26x2.0 on my Atlantis and they are actually 44mm wide on 22.5mm rims. I have the Compass 26x1.75 on an XO-3 and they measure 43mm on 20mm rims. The Compass tires feel noticeably faster to me but it might be the bike not the tires. Maybe the X0-3 planes? Both bikes have drops but the XO-3 is a bit sportier geometry and build overall. -Dave J On Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:36:21 AM UTC-4, Michael Ullmer wrote: Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I decided on Schwalbe Kojaks which should be ariving any day now. Once the build is entirely complete I'll post some pics. Thank again! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Stem fitting page
One of the Cyclos -- cyclotourist or cyclofiend -- constructed an interactive stem measurement page that I found very helpful. I looked for it just now to find that I've lost the link. Can the correct cyclo send it? Many thanks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
RC Cola in clear bottle . . . . Yep ! yum.As were the Ice Cream sandwiches from Earl's Service Station , circa Minnesota 1974 !When service stations really were service stations, with barely enough room inside for a few cans on oil, the cash register, a pop machine(the cool kind, with the vertical window serving bottles ) , and the flip-top ice cream freezer ! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
Orange and green ... the colors of the college in the town I grew up in: CSU in Fort Collins, CO. I had no idea you were a fan, Jinxed. Grin. With abandon, Patrick, who never particularly followed the Rams, but went to high school across the street from them. On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:10:12 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: Yep. I've saved a few pics of this beauty because it's the best color combo I've seen on a Rivendell. https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/131505977/in/set-72057594118986144/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/2439636153/in/set-72057594118986144 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Stem fitting page
Ha! Phew! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks they are twins separated at birth and can't tell 'um apart. Grin. With abandon, Patrick of the highlands, not to be confused with my twin, Patrick of the moor. On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:11:37 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: One of the Cyclos -- cyclotourist or cyclofiend -- constructed an interactive stem measurement page that I found very helpful. I looked for it just now to find that I've lost the link. Can the correct cyclo send it? Many thanks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
Pics prove it can happen: http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/08/s24o-to-alum-creek-or-so-i-thought.html On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 3:58 PM, Peter Morgano uscpeter11...@gmail.comwrote: I know some fellow listers have used the Piccolo/Moose Rack, I just don't know if it would work with panniers. I want to pack up the bike for picnics and s24s with the kiddo but don't know if there is any real estate left for panniers once the bike is attached to the rack. I haven't used panniers in about 15 years so not sure just from eyeballing it if there is enough room left on the top of the rack to clip in panniers. I think this is the only solution for loading up as the piccolo sure doesn't leave room for a big saddlebag and I cant do bags up front (just my thing). Thanks to anyone who has any advice. Oh, here is a link to the rack and bike hooked up so you can see what I am left to work with http://www.bikeman.com/BT3040.html?utm_source=GoogleBaseutm_medium=GoogleBaseutm_campaign=GoogleBasegclid=CJfu1cvo6r0CFahlOgodZEoAMA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
Hmmm. Except, I had thought (from the photo I saw, maybe color had shifted...), it was orange and blue! I'd not seen AC's photos of it, previously. =- Joe On 4/18/14, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Orange and green ... the colors of the college in the town I grew up in: CSU in Fort Collins, CO. I had no idea you were a fan, Jinxed. Grin. With abandon, Patrick, who never particularly followed the Rams, but went to high school across the street from them. On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:10:12 PM UTC-6, jinxed wrote: Yep. I've saved a few pics of this beauty because it's the best color combo I've seen on a Rivendell. https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/131505977/in/set-72057594118986144/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/archivalclothing/2439636153/in/set-72057594118986144 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
I just uploaded THIShttps://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/13928638453/photo of an Orange/Blue road saved in my RivBike folder but cannot find the original source! I will keep looking for the original photo credit. PLEASE chime in if you recognize it...I will remove it from my flickr. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
I thought the Rams were Green and Gold?? On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:22:31 PM UTC-6, Deacon Patrick wrote: Orange and green ... the colors of the college in the town I grew up in: CSU in Fort Collins, CO. I had no idea you were a fan, Jinxed. Grin. With abandon, Patrick, who never particularly followed the Rams, but went to high school across the street from them. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem fitting page
For all I know, they are (they is) the spiritual twinship and alternating egos of one and the same domineering personality. Patrick the secular one Moore On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote: Ha! Phew! I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who thinks they are twins separated at birth and can't tell 'um apart. Grin. With abandon, Patrick of the highlands, not to be confused with my twin, Patrick of the moor. On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:11:37 PM UTC-6, Patrick Moore wrote: One of the Cyclos -- cyclotourist or cyclofiend -- constructed an interactive stem measurement page that I found very helpful. I looked for it just now to find that I've lost the link. Can the correct cyclo send it? Many thanks. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Burly Piccolo/Panniers Question
Awesome, Eric! What a grand outing with the wee ones. Wonderfully done, and improvised for the campsite. Grin. With abandon, Patrick On Friday, April 18, 2014 4:26:19 PM UTC-6, Eric Daume wrote: Pics prove it can happen: http://bikingtoplay.blogspot.com/2013/08/s24o-to-alum-creek-or-so-i-thought.html -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
SON hub on two bikes. Shimano 71 series on the other. All three lights are Lumotec IQ Cyo models. One with the senso function, the other two with just on and off. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.comwrote: I'm using a SON dynamo, and and older light. I don't remember which light it is, but it's five or six years old. Trying to figure out what light to install on my new bike. It has to be something that clamps on the bars. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 5:55 AM, David Banzer daban...@gmail.com wrote: Eric and Anne. What dynamo hubs are you using with which specific lights (a few Cyo models now)? Might help to have that information. David Chicago On Friday, April 18, 2014 5:56:19 AM UTC-5, EricP wrote: Anne, Not saying it doesn't work. Just saying I personally can see a flicker in the light at those speeds. Just thinking about Patrick and wondering if that would cause balance issues. Also it is possible (probable?) the newer lights have a better capacitor and don't flicker as much. That's why I mentioned the Cyo, which is on all my bikes at present. Have also used the Lyt and it does the same thing. Granted, both are cheaper lights by BM. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 9:34 PM, Anne Paulson anne.p...@gmail.comwrote: My dynamo works at speeds a lot lower than 5-6 mph. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:57 PM, Eric Platt eperic...@gmail.comwrote: One thing to think about with dynamo hubs. At really slow speeds climbing, the light can start to flicker. I have it happen on my bikes around 5 to 6 mph. Not sure how much the latest lights do this, but it happens with the Cyo on three different bikes. As to a 29er + I'd wait. Right now, I don't see a large enough tire selection to be worth it for me. With something like a Surly Ogre, that will take any 29er tire up to about 2.4 or so (I think 2.7 in the front.) BTW, after riding my Ogre with 2.25 tires, and getting on the Hillborne with 38s, it almost seems like the 38s are too skinny for me to ride. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Deacon Patrick lamon...@mac.comwrote: I asked the question about a 29er+ and the answer wasn't no. The answer was more like If you reach the point of being serious about this, we'll talk. I wasn't talking with Grant though. With abandon, Patrick On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:44:34 PM UTC-6, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Custom Riv fat bike??? Could it be done?!? On 4/17/14, hsmitham hughs...@gmail.com wrote: I know what I'm about to write is sacrilege but Deacon it seems that the rig for your needs may be a bike with disc brakes and fat tires. There are many choices these days and they can all be Riv'd out. I think your Hung can and does do much of what you want and with class but it just seems that based on your somewhat extreme climate and needs it might make sense. I know that you were/ are concerned with too much bounce from fat tires. I have only very limited time on a couple of fat bikes and they didn't seem that bouncy. If others have more experience with fat bikes chime in. Also I think you could pick a day and visit a local bike store in say Colorado Springs and test ride some. My 2 cents worth and then some. ~H On Thursday, April 17, 2014 6:57:16 AM UTC-7, Deacon Patrick wrote: At some point in the future I will likely need to beef up my front rim to an Atlas to match my rear rim. At such point replacing the front hub with a dynamo/drum brake combo hub is something I am toying with, especially as I've found more area dirt roads to ride and nighttime rides would open up some things. My questions are as follows: Drum brakes: -- Why are drum brakes not used much? -- How practical are they for rugged, steep single track? -- It seems they would address the snow/mud/muck loss of braking issues I sometimes experience. Is this true? -- Does my frame need anything special, or will they simply go on? Dynamo: -- How hearty are they (and the accompanying lights) on rugged single track? Will they hold up or be fussy? Thanks! With abandon, Patrick *www.MindYourHeadCoop.org http://www.MindYourHeadCoop.org* *www.OurHolyConception.org http://www.OurHolyConception.org* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group /rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,
Re: [RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
Trail debate? How about Root River Trail system vs. Elroy Sparta? One paved, one not. Unpaved has three good tunnels. Oh, not that type of trail. Never mind. Eric Platt St. Paul, MN On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote: My Ram also feels much quicker than my former Sam. I don't know if it's tubing or geometry, but the Sam, nice as it was, wasn't a fast road bike. I daresay that the Roadeo feels faster than the Ram. Regarding Riv versus low trail Rando: one thing that Riv has is a particular handling quality that I, for one, really like. I've not found this on other bikes, at least to the same degree (so much so that, even after 20 years, getting on one of the benchmark Rivs after riding other bikes for a while still surprises me with the difference in turn in and fit). I gather that this turn in quality is incompatible with optimum front load geometry. As to planing or at least bikes that feel faster, for me that is separate from handling, since I've ridden bikes whose handling I didn't particularly like that somehow encouraged me to go faster. I still think that fit and geometry in relation to build, gear choice and pedaling style play a part in this feeling. I at any rate haven't experienced planing in the sense of light tubing and speed -- don't know if the general feeling of a frame being faster counts as planing; the lightest frames I've ridden (at least, I assume that 531C standard gauge is lighter tubing than the Rivs I've owned) haven't felt particularly spritely. On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 10:27 AM, RJM crccpadu...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I don't know about the rando bikes since I haven't owned one, but I will say that my Roadeo (ligher tubing) is faster feeling and quicker riding than my Sam Hillborne. But, I can't load up the Roadeo for camping like I can the Hillborne, which is certainly the more versatile bike. I don't know if the Roadeo has oversized tubing but it is a quick feeling bike and livelier than my hillborne, probably because of geometry and tubing differences. Could a rando bike be the end all be all for me? No, I don't think so. I need two, one for camping and one for club riding. I don't ride Rando events and would feel quite limited with just a handlebar bag for when I do go camping/touring, and I feel it may not be quite the best pick for club riding. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Stem fitting page
Here is one I found quite useful, FWIW :) http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Stem fitting page
That's it! Many thanks. Come to think of it, I may be all wet about its provenance with one of the cyclos -- if I confused others, please forgive. On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 6:17 PM, Garth garth...@gmail.com wrote: Here is one I found quite useful, FWIW :) http://alex.phred.org/stemchart/Default.aspx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews. By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching. Other professional writing services. http://www.resumespecialties.com/ Patrick Moore Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Drum Brakes and Dynomos
I owned both an original SA Dynohub (no brake) and a rear Dynohub-cum-AW. I could have installed both on one bike for an additional 20 lb and a total of 6, or at least 4.8, volts. Really, I wish they had been less heavy, since they seemed very well made and they certainly were shiny. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] ISO Panniers
So was gonna take a shot and see if anyone has some canvas or other non plastic panniers they wanted to unload for a decent price. I just really want to test out the whole setup and see how I like it without taking a big hit if it doesn't work out. Thanks for any offers. Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
Is it from Frank's photostream? Many great Rivs has he! https://www.flickr.com/photos/8531240@N06/ Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:43:22 PM UTC-7, jinxed wrote: I just uploaded THIShttps://www.flickr.com/photos/42027576@N00/13928638453/photo of an Orange/Blue road saved in my RivBike folder but cannot find the original source! I will keep looking for the original photo credit. PLEASE chime in if you recognize it...I will remove it from my flickr. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
I think I know the one you're thinking of, in the meantime here's a similar one... https://www.flickr.com/photos/24103159@N08/3278181983/ Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 2:23:47 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Ok- now where'd I see that?... ;-) Just recently I clicked past a (older?) photo of someone's quite distinctive Riv Road(?) - painted a pumpkin orange w/ a blue headtube (think: Cheviot colors but gasp, dark ht.!). The build included a Mavic starfish crank prompting someone to quip Rivendell time trial bike? or somesuch. Which makes me think it had somehow floated to the surface over on the flickr, but I can't seem to find it again. Alas! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] FS: Sam Hillborne - 60cm
I picked up a Quickbeam as my next only bike. Maybe I will put decals that say precious on the tubes. It will by my only precious bike for awhile. Matt On Friday, April 18, 2014 12:15:47 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote: It's that Peter Jackson fella you need to worry about! On Friday, April 18, 2014 9:45:35 AM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote: Those two ornaments would definitely get the attention of the Tolkein estate. Heck, don't be surprised if they claim to hold the legal rights to the word precious. On Friday, April 18, 2014 7:32:25 AM UTC-7, Tony DeFilippo wrote: Gollum headbadge and a ring seat tube ornament... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Low trail, lightest tubing bikes really all that?
I went all out for a Jan Heine bike – Boulder Bicycle Allroad with the skinny top tube option (lightest combo), mated to Grand Bois Extra Leger Hetre tires and even latex tubes. After riding it for more than 1000 miles (brevets, commutes weekend rides), I don't know if all that expense was worthwhile. This isn't to say that the Boulder isn't a nice riding bike and that the EL Hetres aren't wonderful. Indeed, they are. But I don't really feel a significant difference compared to any of my bikes that are set up similarly. They're not magically faster and no amount of planning (if present) helped when I was undertrained for a ride. The handling is a bit different but only subtly so compared to any of my other stiff bikes with mid to high trail. The difference is certainly not any more so than between my Atlantis and my Colnago (for example). And as Grant stated before, a ride or two will entirely accustom me to the difference. But then again, I've not put big loads up front. I've used handlebar bags filled with stuff for short brevets on my Atlantis, the Boulder and even my custom Rivendell. All handled fine and were totally manageable. Maybe if I start carry gold bars about... :) IMO, bikes at this end of the refinement curve are all good bikes. One's merely nitpicking at this point and any one will do since very few of us will explore those differences often and we all adapt to their idiosyncrasies. Nowadays, I may choose the bike-of-the-day based on tires for the terrain. For northern CA's crappy roads, that means bikes that can only take max 25mm tires get to stay home for months on end, even if they do only weigh 16lb. On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 11:08:22 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote: Anyone here own a low-trail/ lightest tubing bike? Like the Herses and Singers and the new MAP SP, Boulder bikes, etc.? Do you find them really that much better performing (faster, flexier, planier, efficient) than your oversized steel tubing bikes, as I have read about in reviews of them? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Hunqapillar Fenders.....
Thanks for the replies. I think I read somewhere that the SKS 65mm fenders for 26 wheels would fit 700C. Does anyone know if this is true? I added a Nitto 32F and a wald basket which I love the look of, it seems far more capable than 4lbs load. Zack, what was your impetus for switching to the Nitto Big front, that really sounds like a dumb question, now that ive typed it, but if you have an unexpected answer lets hear it. Deacon Patrick, I always enjoy reading your posts, aside from asking great questions and making thoughtful responses, you save me hours of time having to ask the same questions myself.Have a good one.Mark On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 12:19:37 AM UTC-4, Marcus80 wrote: I have a 62 cm Hunqapillar and am wondering what is the widest non knobby tire/ fender combo you've had luck with. My tange headset needs replacing and my feeling is a CK 2Nut unless there is a strong Cane Creek 110 rec. I've got some Rich Lesnik built OC 36h Synergies laced to LX hubs that I'll be replacing with a Schmidt and either a White MI5 or a Phil Wood rear 40h on Dyads. The wheelset may be FS but not until I get the new ones. I bought an AHH and have loaded it down for touring and it is exceptional, particularly in the heft department. My thought is that I would use Hunqy for really off the beaten path and touring duty and make an attempt to lighten up the HIlsen. The Hilsen currently has the dyad/phil/son28 set up, so ostensibly I could switch those wheels to the HUnq and build something lighter for it. I am however six and a third feet tall and 275 after an extensive tasting menu that started around Halloween, 2013. Any and all help would be appreciated. Thank you so muchMark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] SKF Bottom Bracket for Homer Hilsen
Does anyone know the optimal width for an SKS BB on an AHH running a Sugino triple to a SRAM 9sp on a Phil Wood cassette rear on a standard Dyad? Also, same BB and wheel but on a Hunqapillar with a white industries VBC double? Thanks a lotMark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: found and lost: looking for that photo of...
And this--but I still can't find the one I'm thinking of, now I cannot rest until I locate it! https://plus.google.com/photos/100636096569579893825/albums/5339413415971298593?banner=pwa Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 8:25:28 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote: I think I know the one you're thinking of, in the meantime here's a similar one... https://www.flickr.com/photos/24103159@N08/3278181983/ Ryan On Friday, April 18, 2014 2:23:47 PM UTC-7, jbu...@gmail.com wrote: Ok- now where'd I see that?... ;-) Just recently I clicked past a (older?) photo of someone's quite distinctive Riv Road(?) - painted a pumpkin orange w/ a blue headtube (think: Cheviot colors but gasp, dark ht.!). The build included a Mavic starfish crank prompting someone to quip Rivendell time trial bike? or somesuch. Which makes me think it had somehow floated to the surface over on the flickr, but I can't seem to find it again. Alas! =- Joe Bunik Walnut Creek, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Starting to wonder if all this frame stuff really matters.
I'm talking ride quality only, not function. Don't blow a gasket until you read this post in full. Steel, carbon, Alu, Ti, Rando-lite frames, etc. I just saw a RAAM documentary. Actually I have watched three of them. Those guys are mostly carbon, skinny tires, with bars waaay low, yet they do hundreds of miles a day, culminating in a 3,000 mile race finish in less than 10 days. You gotta be comfy on your bike to a certain degree to survive a 3,000 mile ride in 10 days or less. You can't really argue with that. Yeah, they are athletes,and suffer, but read on... I'm starting to think that no frame material is better than another when at the higher quality levels and craftsmanship. And I think RAAM blows it all outta the water. RAAM has been ridden on just about everything I would think. I don't think these people are dummies, and I am sure they have done their homework to find what suits their needs. I think it's just preference at that point. I don't know that Jure Robic (5-time RAAM winner) would have done any better, or felt any better, on a Herse, Scott, Lightspeed, or Roadeo. Someone once asked him how his behind felt during RAAM, and he stuck his fingers in his mouth imitating a gun. I don't think that would have changed no matter what he was riding (and it looked like a studded leather saddle in the documentary I saw). Now function is another thing altogether. You want braze-ons and wide tires and clearance, approach a steel frame builder for sure. I needed to ride through mud and gravel to continue on my way today and I was glad I was on my fender-ed Rivbike with 42 mm tires and not on a 25mm tire-ed race bike. I'm not going to touch safety and lifetime issues of materials. The battle rages. Anyway, since I got my head out of carbon, and have been reading a lot about steel, I have been wondering. Because everyone seems to love their quality bikes, no matter what the material is. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
