[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[ascpgh]

Some of that traffic you met may be there for elk season. 

A friend sent me a shot of the snow front coming over the divide at sunset 
with the Papoose burn and Trout Mountain in the background the other 
afternoon. They are at Spar City, Mineral County,west of Creede, on foot in 
the Weminuche Wilderness area, hiking and scouting ahead of the season. 
Content related because in the primordial days of bikes ridden off roads, 
we used to ride in there (on the lunar surface created by pack animals' 
6-8" deep hoof craters) to fly fish and camp at the encouragement of 
managers. We would be treated quite harshly for such a deviant incursion 
now. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:15:39 AM UTC-5, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Och! It's -6˚F this morning and my brain's too buggered to head out (the 
> threshold for venturing out in extremes is higher than when it's warmer). 
> Feel free to ask me any questions on the how or why with floor living or 
> shoes, or other nutty things I do, Paul (off list is best).
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:26:40 AM UTC-7, truegolden wrote:
>>
>>  
>>  Deacon Patrick,
>>  
>> I enjoy your posts and pics and continue to be inspired by your 
>> minimalist life style, hopefully enough to minimalize more myself.
>>  
>> Paul in Dallas (only about 32 degrees here this morning.
>>  
>> ===
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Deacon Patrick : Nov 11 
>>
>> We got an inch of snow last night and a brisk 4˚F at 7am, so I bundled up 
>> and headed out, hopeful of making it to the top of Lovell Gulch or perhaps 
>> Rampart Reservoir. Alas, the slick snowpack left me pondering my own 
>> mortality on the hood of a diesel truck just learning how to drive in the 
>> snow (either being from somewhere else or having forgotten in the last 6 
>> months). So I wimped out and turned around. 
>>
>> All clothing systems worked beautifully except for footwear. I have yet 
>> to sort out what to wear that handles uber cold to wet and sloppy AND is 
>> minimalist. But I am home now, and can feel my toes again. They are still 
>> pink and still wiggle, so I wasn’t too stupid. Grin.
>>
>> Photos show what felt like a quintessential November day in Colorado 
>> hills. (There’s 12 all told, use the left arrow to see them all.)
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/15146894563/in/photostream/
>>  
>> With abandon,
>> Patrick
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[Deacon Patrick]

Tony, it's all about the clothing and breathing through your nose, never 
your mouth (sinuses do a wonderful job warming/humidifying frigid air.)

Andy, spot on. Hunting is common north of the reservoir I was heading for. 
It won't be long before we get a near constant line of cars hunting 
Christmas trees. I won't be riding up there then. Sardonic grin.

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[justinaugust]

I gotta b17 with your name on it... And you know where I live!

-J

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto Campee Medium Rear Rack - Used

[Tim Gavin]

I'm pretty sure it's a Mt-Campee.  I have one just like yours, and it has
plenty of clearance on a 700c Riv.  It's a bit lighter than the ones Riv
designed, but still fits full size panniers.  A nice medium size rack, with
Nitto's lovely fillet brazing and nickel plating.

Cheers,
Tim

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Ryan  wrote:

> I made a mistake in my original posting.  It's actually a medium.
> Pictures now include "dimensions."
>
> Barely used Nitto Medium Rear Rack:  $110
>
> Pix: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bop/4755152183.html
>
> Pick-up locally in Fairfax, CA or San Francisco.  Cash.
>
> Or I could ship it and you pay shipping (USPS).  Paypal.
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

[bingomck]

$1,050 plus s&p

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Unfortunately, I think the 54 San Marcos would be too big.  I rode a 51 and 
it fit perfectly.

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:59:47 AM UTC-6, Rob H. wrote:
>
> Wildcat, would a NIB 54cm Soma San Marcos + cash interest you? It's the 
> original, icy Pearl Blue color. The SO is ~81cm. I have a PBH of 85cm and 
> found the 59cm too high. Are you in the Bay Area?
>
> On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 11:59:24 AM UTC-8, Wildcat96 wrote:
>>
>> One last shot before I take my chances on eBay.  $1650 plus shipping.  I 
>> just need something that fits me a little better so trades are also 
>> welcome.  Take a look at the pics on my Flickr page.  It's a beautiful 
>> frame.  I almost want to just hang it on the wall as a piece of art!
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Wildcat96]

FYI, I run Fatty Rumpkins (they measure a true 41mm) under SKS P50 
Longboards on my Sam.  The P50's were a pretty tight fit when I first 
installed them, but I was able to get at least a couple of mm of additional 
clearance under the front sidepull by using Sheldon's Fender Nuts and 
mounting the fender behind the crown.  They pull the fender up a little 
higher behind the crown.  I now have at least 1cm clearance all around.  
Not sure how well they would work with the Honjo's however.

On Monday, November 10, 2014 11:58:24 PM UTC-6, lungimsam wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I recently installed H50 Honjos on the Bleriot with my Hetres, as you may 
> recall from an earlier post.
>
> I have between what looks like 1-2cm clearance all around. Tightest are 
> under the sidepull brakes. That's the max I can get. Tires spin fine, no 
> rubbing. No rattling.
>
> But on the two commutes I did this week, I repeatedly heard pebbles and 
> rocks rattling through the fenders as I rode over them.
>
> Does this indicate that the clearances are not ample?
> Do I need to go to a narrower/smaller tire?
>
> I have SKS Longboards and Hetres on my Sam bike and I rarely hear rocks 
> going through, though the clearances look similar to what I have on the 
> Bleriot.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Grant Petersen]

Tiny thing, petty I'm sure, but "Waterford Atlantis" sort of hands off our 
hand in the bike to Waterford. We're happy and proud that Wford builds some 
models for us, but the things that make an Atlantis an Atlantis all came 
from us...so "USA-built Atlantis" goes down much easier here. 

On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>
>
> 
> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Is the Bleriot/Honjos/ Hetres clearance I have not enough?

[Tim Gavin]

I also used a Sheldon's nut to mount the tab to the back of the fork.  It
resulted in better clearance than with the daruma.  I also bent both front
and rear tabs to effectively shorten them and bring the fender as close to
the bridge as possible.

I'm running 45 mm VO fenders over 38 mm tires, so the extra clearance is
welcome.  As is the extra clearance from using Paul Racers instead of
sidepulls that push on the fender.

Likewise, the tightest clearance is at the bolts for the stays.

I hear pebbles rattle through pretty often.  Yet I've ridden it, with
fenders, on rural gravel in Iowa (.5-1" crushed limestone) and never got
anything stuck in the fender.  A good reason to keep the fender clearance
even, or maybe increasing, towards the front of the bike.  You'd hate to
have it narrow towards the front and trap debris.

I believe Honjos, like VO fenders, use 5 mm stays with no quick release.
The FMF Safety Tabs
 from PDW fit
these stays and add quick release safety to your fenders.

I took a stick in my rear (non QR) P45 fender, and it folded it under the
brake bridge at ruined the fender.  So I put these QR's on the front AND
the rear fenders now.  One additional advantage of the FMF Safety Tabs is
they use a grub/set screw to attach the stay to the safety tab, which makes
it much, much easier to finely adjust the length of the stay.  The standard
Honjo/VO tabs are attractive in their simplicity, but they were a real pain
to adjust when my rack and fenders are on the same bolt (single eyelet
Campy 1010s on my Riv).

Cheers,
Tim

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

You make a valid point Grant.  I think a "USA-built Atlantis" is a more 
fair description and I'll try to refer to it that way in the future.  It is 
my understanding that the "Japan-built Atlantis" is every bit as good and I 
am sure I would be every bit as happy with one, as long as it fits me.  
I love my Sam and it's quality is certainly up there with the Atlantis.  
Thank you and the folks at Rivendell for designing such great bikes, no 
matter where they are built!

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 10:56:59 AM UTC-6, Grant Petersen wrote:
>
> Tiny thing, petty I'm sure, but "Waterford Atlantis" sort of hands off our 
> hand in the bike to Waterford. We're happy and proud that Wford builds some 
> models for us, but the things that make an Atlantis an Atlantis all came 
> from us...so "USA-built Atlantis" goes down much easier here. 
>
> On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
>> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
>> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
>> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
>> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
>> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
>> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
>> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
>> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
>> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wheel Stabilizer or no?

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Cecily, I read your post and designed a simple contraption for my Atlantis. 
I recently bought a Nitto big front rack from Riv and it  flops! It was 
easy to make. I had a frame bag that I made, so I used that to anchor and 
store the elastic backed strap when not in use. Mine is anchored on one 
end, but you could make it with hooks on each end. The first one I made was 
just a cord with hooks. I found it tangled in my bike bag, so I sewed a 
strap to stretched out, weak elastic. It shrinks it in half when not 
attached, less tangles. Watch the video attached all the way until it stops 
for a demo. It's cheap, fast, light and unbreakable. Perfect for touring 
and daily use. We must banish wheel flop!

Clayton (Bend)

On Friday, October 31, 2014 5:25:43 PM UTC-7, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> Since putting a Mark's Rack and a basket on the front of my Betty Foy, my 
> front handlebars flop most prodigiously (and annoyingly) when there's 
> anything in the basket. I'm writing to get you folks' opinions on wheel 
> stabilizers, or any other solutions you can think of to fight the flop. 
>
> Cheers,
> Cecily 
>

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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[Pondero]

Gee...it's so much fun to spend Bill's money.  Go, Bill!

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto Campee Medium Rear Rack - Used

[dougP]

A while back I had one of these on my 58 cm Atlantis with 700 x 45 Schwalbe 
Marathon Plus tires.  Clearance with the tire was minimal but sufficient.  
There was interference with some of my panniers mounting hooks but others 
had clearance.  That's the only limitation I know of to mounting this on a 
larger frame.  IIRC correctly, Riv says up to 54 or so but that's 
conservative, and narrower tires would give more clearance.

The difference between this one and the Rivendell version is the triangle 
gussets at the corners where the vertical struts meet the platform on the 
Riv version.  Personally, I think this is a cleaner design, and the gussets 
are over-kill.  The gussets also limit pannier mounting options.  

dougP

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 6:03:24 AM UTC-8, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I'm pretty sure it's a Mt-Campee.  I have one just like yours, and it has 
> plenty of clearance on a 700c Riv.  It's a bit lighter than the ones Riv 
> designed, but still fits full size panniers.  A nice medium size rack, with 
> Nitto's lovely fillet brazing and nickel plating.
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 11:46 PM, Ryan > 
> wrote:
>
>> I made a mistake in my original posting.  It's actually a medium.  
>> Pictures now include "dimensions."
>>
>> Barely used Nitto Medium Rear Rack:  $110
>>
>> Pix: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bop/4755152183.html
>>
>> Pick-up locally in Fairfax, CA or San Francisco.  Cash.
>>
>> Or I could ship it and you pay shipping (USPS).  Paypal.
>>
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[Mark Reimer]

That's a killer deal. I paid a fair amount more than that for my 58cm 
Atlantis, same year, with only marginally better paint condition. Someone 
get on that! 

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-6, Pondero wrote:
>
> Gee...it's so much fun to spend Bill's money.  Go, Bill!
>
> Chris Johnson
> Sanger, Texas
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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[Bill Lindsay]

I am working on it.  As the basketball players would say, I'm 'boxing out'. 
 I got first dibs in.  If you like my builds, stay tunedIf you hate my 
builds, grab a barf bag.  

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:51:01 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> That's a killer deal. I paid a fair amount more than that for my 58cm 
> Atlantis, same year, with only marginally better paint condition. Someone 
> get on that! 
>
> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-6, Pondero wrote:
>>
>> Gee...it's so much fun to spend Bill's money.  Go, Bill!
>>
>> Chris Johnson
>> Sanger, Texas
>>
>

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[RBW] Neat New Stuff (BLUG Holiday Mailer PDF)

[Bill Lindsay]

The BLUG has a new Holiday Mailer pdf.  A couple new cool things, 
especially for us bag-matchers.  Rear squarish panniers to match the fronts 
that came out with the Hub Area Rack.  Also a backpack!  

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[RBW] Re: For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[dougP]

This sounds like it could get interesting.  Meanwhile, that brand new, 
never built 56 cm Atlantis is still available.  Many of us can ride a 
couple of sizes, so if you're lusting for a 58, check your PBH against the 
charts to see if a 56 will also work.  No relation to the seller but every 
Rivendell deserves a good home

dougP 

On Wednesday, November 12, 2014 8:51:39 PM UTC-8, oldmangabe wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>  
>
> For sale is my 2005 or 2006 Rivendell Atlantis 58cm frame and fork. It is 
> a great frame and I have made a lot of memories with it, but after about 
> nine or so years of trying to convince myself it fits, I’ve finally 
> realized it’s just too small. I am the original owner. The bike was ridden 
> in and around Northern California on and off road since I bought it and the 
> paint is representative of this. There are quite a number of paint dings 
> and scrapes with the most significant being shown in the images, but the 
> damage is confined to the paint and is not affecting the tubes. The frame 
> was never crashed, and is structurally sound and in alignment.
>
>  
>
> Images can be found HERE 
> 
>
>  
>
> Geometry and specs HERE 
> 
>
>  
>
> I am located in SF. A local sale would be preferred since nobody really 
> likes dealing with S&H, but I will ship. Contact me off list if interested. 
>
>  
>
> I am asking $1000 for the frame/fork/Ultegra headset + S&H. 
>
>  
>
> Best,
>
> Gabe
>

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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[oldmangabe]

Bill, 

Your strong defense and quick handling skills have caused a turnover and 
you are now driving to the hoop.  

SALE PENDING.

Thanks everyone. I appreciate it.

Best,
Gabe

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:33:12 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> I am working on it.  As the basketball players would say, I'm 'boxing 
> out'.  I got first dibs in.  If you like my builds, stay tunedIf you 
> hate my builds, grab a barf bag.  
>
> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:51:01 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>
>> That's a killer deal. I paid a fair amount more than that for my 58cm 
>> Atlantis, same year, with only marginally better paint condition. Someone 
>> get on that! 
>>
>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-6, Pondero wrote:
>>>
>>> Gee...it's so much fun to spend Bill's money.  Go, Bill!
>>>
>>> Chris Johnson
>>> Sanger, Texas
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Neat New Stuff (BLUG Holiday Mailer PDF)

[ted]

Got a paper coppy in the mail today. Very nice.

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[RBW] Re: Neat New Stuff (BLUG Holiday Mailer PDF)

[Edwin W]

I remember a blug entry that said 1/5.5th of the email list will get one.. 
now who has been naughty, and who has been nice?

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:19:06 PM UTC-6, ted wrote:
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> Got a paper coppy in the mail today. Very nice.

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Evan]

Hi All,

If Gabe's awesome used 58 Atlantis can sell, I hope this awesome new 56 
Atlantis can also find a home here. I don't know Wildcat or anything; I 
just hate to see an Atlantis go unclaimed. Hence this bump!

Evan E.
SF, CA



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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[Wildcat96]

Trade pending on a sweet Bombadil.

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[RBW] Re: Brisk November Ride

[lungimsam]

 

> My problem in winter riding is:
>
Thighs and knees seem to complain after 30-50 miles. I don't know what to 
use for windstopping so the old legs will stay protected and warm.
Thinking of windstopper tights, but I feel there must be a cheaper 
home-made, reliable remedy for this besides 75$-and-up cycling gear.

Maybe thicker wool long johns.

The gray/blue MUSA long pants would be great if they had some windstopping 
stuff on the front, but then they would probably be over 100$ then.

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[RBW] Re: Neat New Stuff (BLUG Holiday Mailer PDF)

[Tom Virgil]

Haya Bill,

I found it intriguing.  Like you, "Bagman"  that I am, I am interested in 
the SACKVILLE STICK PACK and SCAKVILLE BACKBITE SACKS (capitalization 
theirs, not me yelling).

Thanks for posting.

Tom

On Thursday, November 13, 2014 3:47:32 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> The BLUG has a new Holiday Mailer pdf.  A couple new cool things, 
> especially for us bag-matchers.  Rear squarish panniers to match the fronts 
> that came out with the Hub Area Rack.  Also a backpack!  
>

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[RBW] Re: Ride Report: Rampart Reservoir

[lungimsam]

Congrats on the cold weather riding, Patrick!
I am always amazed at your fearless dashing out into the elements with 
abandon!

What kinda pants/layers do you wear to keep the legs warm?

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[RBW] FS/WTT: 58cm SimpleOne

[justinaugust]

Also interested in your Hunky Hunqapilar or Bombadil or other mountainy bike. 

-J

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[RBW] Re: FS/WTT New-in-the box Waterford Atlantis 56cm

[dougP]

Excellent news!  Congatulations.  

dougP

On Friday, October 24, 2014 12:49:16 PM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
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>
> 
> Hey all, I picked this frame up from a fellow Riv fan locally and was 
> hoping to transfer most of the parts over from my Alba-bar 51cm Sam.  After 
> spending some time on the phone with the guys at Riv, I am not so sure now 
> that I'm going to be happy with the fit as it's borderline too big.  I am 
> 5'7" with a 81 PBH.  It is still in the original packaging and I only 
> pulled it out to inspect it for damage and snap some pics.  I am asking 
> $1850 plus shipping, but I am open to other offers or possibly trading for 
> an 53 or 54.5 Atlantis, 48 or 51 Hunqapillar, 48 Bombadil, or even a 54 
> Hilsen that is new or in decent shape.  This is the brand new Waterford 
> frame that Riv sells for $2300.
>

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[RBW] 56cm Quickbeam on Seattle CL

[Monica Way]

Hi all,

Great bargain at $1100. I don't know the seller, just saw the ad.

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/4759442689.html

Have at it.

Monica

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

[Michael Gasparino]

Any chance of a trade for a 56cm simple one?

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Re: [RBW] For Sale-58cm Atlantis Frame/Fork/Headset

[Aaron Young]

RE: the 56 vs 58 Atlantis.  I recently bought a used Atlantis.  My PBH put
me right between both sizes and since there is a significant difference in
wheel size I waited till I had ridden both sizes before choosing.  As far
as standover height, there really wasn't much difference (of course tires
could affect this a bit), but as expected there was just a little less on
the 58 with 700c wheels.  Tire size there was "fattish", but not 50's or
anything.  The 56 on the other hand had 2.15" 26ers and still had a bit
more standover.

Honestly, I think I would be happy on either frame size, but went for a 56
because in my imaginations I saw myself using the Atlantis more off road
than on and even doing some light single track.  So went for 26er and more
standover.  I'm happy with my decision, but with how much riding I have
been doing lately (more like haven't been doing) the frame size is really
moot! :)

Congrats to Bill it seems are in order.

-Aaron "Happy 56er" Young
The Dalles, OR



On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 7:12 PM, oldmangabe  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Your strong defense and quick handling skills have caused a turnover and
> you are now driving to the hoop.
>
> SALE PENDING.
>
> Thanks everyone. I appreciate it.
>
> Best,
> Gabe
>
>
> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 1:33:12 PM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I am working on it.  As the basketball players would say, I'm 'boxing
>> out'.  I got first dibs in.  If you like my builds, stay tunedIf you
>> hate my builds, grab a barf bag.
>>
>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 12:51:01 PM UTC-8, Mark Reimer wrote:
>>>
>>> That's a killer deal. I paid a fair amount more than that for my 58cm
>>> Atlantis, same year, with only marginally better paint condition. Someone
>>> get on that!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 13, 2014 11:53:57 AM UTC-6, Pondero wrote:

 Gee...it's so much fun to spend Bill's money.  Go, Bill!

 Chris Johnson
 Sanger, Texas

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