[RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

[Takashi]

I have been super lazy for months, but finally got around to installing a 
new pair of fenders on my Hunqapillar.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/77318553@N08/sets/72157650693988781/

With my winter tires (Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro 29 x 2.25), clearances are 
small, so I had to file off some bits from front fender, and also cut the 
rear fender into two.
I am pretty much satisfied with the result, but maybe I will have to ride 
slow at first to make sure that it's safe to ride with knobby tires and 
fenders.

Takashi


2014年12月2日火曜日 11時13分47秒 UTC+9 Tony DeFilippo:
>
> Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!  
>
> 
>
> Here is my XO-3 (26" wheeled) as ready as I can make her. 
> 
>
> '93 XO-3, 59cm
> Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
> Nokian M&G 26x1.95" Studded Tires
> Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
> Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My stolen Rambouillet

['doc' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Mark,  What time of day?  I go past Hillside on my commute.

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>
> Bump. 
>
> Two months since my blue Ram was stolen (Camp Hill, PA), but there may 
> have been a sighting this week. 
>
> This past Wednesday (February 4), a coworker of mine spotted a bike that 
> matched the description of my bike in New Cumberland. He was behind the 
> rider on Beacon Hill Rd near Hillside Elementary, then followed him as he 
> turned left on to Hillside Rd. He said the rider seemed to notice him, so 
> my coworker didn't follow the rider when he turned up Hillside Dr (which is 
> a dead end). 
> My coworker described the rider as a white male, dressed in khakis and a 
> black coat. 
>
> Resuming my daily drives through New Cumberland, 
>
> Mark 
>
> > On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33, Mark Wilkins  > wrote: 
> > 
> > With all these eyes out there, I have some hope! 
> > 
> > doc: Very cool!  I miss riding into downtown.  We moved our office out 
> > by Colonial Park, and there's just no pleasant way to bike there from 
> > Camp Hill. 
> > 
> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:57 AM, 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch 
> > > wrote: 
> >> If the bike is still local, someone will spot it.  I drive through New 
> >> Cumberland every day and will keep an eye out.  I remember picking that 
> >> distinctive blue frame out of the crowd while passing you on my commute 
> into 
> >> the 'burg. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:07:12 AM UTC-5, Mark Wilkins wrote: 
> >>> 
> >>> Geoffrey: Ah, yes...thanks for the reminder.  Sent off an email to Riv 
> >>> late last night.  Between them and the shop, I hope to hear something 
> >>> soon. 
> >>> 
>  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Geoffrey  wrote: 
>  Awww man Mark, I'm sorry.  This kind of crap boils my blood!  Good 
> luck 
>  on 
>  that lead.  I bet Riv would be able to get you the serial # pretty 
>  easily 
>  based of their sales to the shop and when you bought it.  Just a 
>  thought. 
>  Also, search tempest is an easier way to cover lots of craigslistings 
> at 
>  the 
>  same time: 
>  
>  
> http://www.searchtempest.com/search?location=17101&maxDist=400®ion_us=1&search_string=Rivendell&keytype=adv&Region=na&cityselect=zip&page=0&category=8&subcat=bia&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max
>  
>  
> > On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:14:41 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
> > 
> > Regarding Serial Numbers, I've decided that I'm photographing every 
> > bike's 
> > serial number and posting it on flickr,  I have it on my computer, 
> too. 
> > Here's my Atlantis: 
> > 
> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15968356411/ 
> > 
> > I feel like this makes it easy for me to find it if I need it, and 
> it 
> > has 
> > a believable timestamp on it, showing WHEN it became mine.  That 
> > doesn't 
> > help you, I realize, but your situation reminds me to make sure all 
> my 
> > bikes 
> > ser #s are photographed.  Good luck getting Rambo back! 
> > 
> >> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:46:40 AM UTC-8, Mark Wilkins wrote: 
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the kind wishes and help, everyone. 
> >> 
> >> Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the file where I kept 
> the 
> >> serial #.  I've been in touch with the shop where I bought it, and 
> >> they do have paper records that go back that far...it just may take 
> >> some time to find it. 
> >> 
> >> Someone on the Harrisburg Bicycle Club's facebook page said that 
> they 
> >> _might_have seen it on Sunday a couple towns over from mine.  He 
> >> said... 
> >> 
> >> "Not positive but I think I saw a bike like this outside the Legion 
> in 
> >> Newcumberland on Sunday. I have always loved the old school 10 
> speed 
> >> style so it caught my eye and the name was one that I did not 
> >> recognize. Once again, not sure but hopefully this will help you 
> >> recover your property." 
> >> 
> >> The "old school 10 speed style" made me smile. 
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:17 AM, bo richardson  
> >> wrote: 
> >>> serial number? 
> >>> mycriagslistfinder.com 
> >>> and jaxed.com should add up to 
> >>> pretty good us coverage 
> >>> 
> >>> if it goes into a container bound for 
> >>> foreign distribution, recovery is less likely, duh 
> >>> 
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[RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

[Tony DeFilippo]

Takashi that Hunq looks great!  I love that grey-red color scheme and the 
fenders really set it off.  So far my XO3's readiness had exceeded my own 
willingness with the winter commuting.  Lots of 30ish degree with mixed 
precipitation... I've got work travel over the next couple weeks to so by the 
time I get back I think the studded tires will be coming off. (Or maybe I'm too 
optimistic!)

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Re: [RBW] Re: My stolen Rambouillet

[Mark Wilkins]

doc: 

It was between 3:30 and 4pm. 

Funny, when I drove up Hillside to the dead end later that day, I actually saw 
recent bike tire tracks in the snow at the end of the road. 

Couldn't tell if the tread was Ruffy-Tuffy, though. ;-)

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 8, 2015, at 07:07, 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mark,  What time of day?  I go past Hillside on my commute.
> 
>> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 1:40:31 PM UTC-5, Mark Wilkins wrote:
>> Bump. 
>> 
>> Two months since my blue Ram was stolen (Camp Hill, PA), but there may have 
>> been a sighting this week. 
>> 
>> This past Wednesday (February 4), a coworker of mine spotted a bike that 
>> matched the description of my bike in New Cumberland. He was behind the 
>> rider on Beacon Hill Rd near Hillside Elementary, then followed him as he 
>> turned left on to Hillside Rd. He said the rider seemed to notice him, so my 
>> coworker didn't follow the rider when he turned up Hillside Dr (which is a 
>> dead end). 
>> My coworker described the rider as a white male, dressed in khakis and a 
>> black coat. 
>> 
>> Resuming my daily drives through New Cumberland, 
>> 
>> Mark 
>> 
>> > On Dec 10, 2014, at 10:33, Mark Wilkins  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > With all these eyes out there, I have some hope! 
>> > 
>> > doc: Very cool!  I miss riding into downtown.  We moved our office out 
>> > by Colonial Park, and there's just no pleasant way to bike there from 
>> > Camp Hill. 
>> > 
>> > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 8:57 AM, 'doc' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>> >  wrote: 
>> >> If the bike is still local, someone will spot it.  I drive through New 
>> >> Cumberland every day and will keep an eye out.  I remember picking that 
>> >> distinctive blue frame out of the crowd while passing you on my commute 
>> >> into 
>> >> the 'burg. 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 8:07:12 AM UTC-5, Mark Wilkins wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Geoffrey: Ah, yes...thanks for the reminder.  Sent off an email to Riv 
>> >>> late last night.  Between them and the shop, I hope to hear something 
>> >>> soon. 
>> >>> 
>>  On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Geoffrey  wrote: 
>>  Awww man Mark, I'm sorry.  This kind of crap boils my blood!  Good luck 
>>  on 
>>  that lead.  I bet Riv would be able to get you the serial # pretty 
>>  easily 
>>  based of their sales to the shop and when you bought it.  Just a 
>>  thought. 
>>  Also, search tempest is an easier way to cover lots of craigslistings 
>>  at 
>>  the 
>>  same time: 
>>  
>>  http://www.searchtempest.com/search?location=17101&maxDist=400®ion_us=1&search_string=Rivendell&keytype=adv&Region=na&cityselect=zip&page=0&category=8&subcat=bia&minAsk=min&maxAsk=max
>>   
>>  
>> > On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:14:41 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Regarding Serial Numbers, I've decided that I'm photographing every 
>> > bike's 
>> > serial number and posting it on flickr,  I have it on my computer, 
>> > too. 
>> > Here's my Atlantis: 
>> > 
>> > https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/15968356411/ 
>> > 
>> > I feel like this makes it easy for me to find it if I need it, and it 
>> > has 
>> > a believable timestamp on it, showing WHEN it became mine.  That 
>> > doesn't 
>> > help you, I realize, but your situation reminds me to make sure all my 
>> > bikes 
>> > ser #s are photographed.  Good luck getting Rambo back! 
>> > 
>> >> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:46:40 AM UTC-8, Mark Wilkins wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks for the kind wishes and help, everyone. 
>> >> 
>> >> Unfortunately, I haven't been able to find the file where I kept the 
>> >> serial #.  I've been in touch with the shop where I bought it, and 
>> >> they do have paper records that go back that far...it just may take 
>> >> some time to find it. 
>> >> 
>> >> Someone on the Harrisburg Bicycle Club's facebook page said that they 
>> >> _might_have seen it on Sunday a couple towns over from mine.  He 
>> >> said... 
>> >> 
>> >> "Not positive but I think I saw a bike like this outside the Legion 
>> >> in 
>> >> Newcumberland on Sunday. I have always loved the old school 10 speed 
>> >> style so it caught my eye and the name was one that I did not 
>> >> recognize. Once again, not sure but hopefully this will help you 
>> >> recover your property." 
>> >> 
>> >> The "old school 10 speed style" made me smile. 
>> >> 
>> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:17 AM, bo richardson  
>> >> wrote: 
>> >>> serial number? 
>> >>> mycriagslistfinder.com 
>> >>> and jaxed.com should add up to 
>> >>> pretty good us coverage 
>> >>> 
>> >>> if it goes into a container bound for 
>> >>> foreign distribution, recovery is less likely, duh 
>> >>> 
>> >>> -- 
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[RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

[Marc Irwin]

The Hunq, alive and well in the wilderness.

I have a wheelset with Nokian W106 mounted for winter riding.



That's the only winter change I make.

Marc




On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:13:47 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!  
>
> 
>
> Here is my XO-3 (26" wheeled) as ready as I can make her. 
> 
>
> '93 XO-3, 59cm
> Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
> Nokian M&G 26x1.95" Studded Tires
> Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
> Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>  
>
>
> 
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>

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[RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

[Kellie Stapleton]

Ready for muddy east bay trails; BG Rock and Roads. This is last weekend 
but about 3 inches of rain the last 3 days.

On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 6:13:47 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!  
>
> 
>
> Here is my XO-3 (26" wheeled) as ready as I can make her. 
> 
>
> '93 XO-3, 59cm
> Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
> Nokian M&G 26x1.95" Studded Tires
> Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
> Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>  
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Front end shimmy.

[Andy.M]

Doug and I have talked about shimmy a bit involving our respective Atlanti 
(mine is a 56cm with 26" wheels) and it seemed that in both our experience 
that a high rear load equates to a shimmy.  To me, when loaded, the 
Atlantis rides the most stable with a low front load. For overnighters I 
usually keep the big saddle bag on the rear rack (which is there 
permanently and I deal with the slight shimmy if I make a big market trip) 
and front paniers.  With more low weight in the front the ride is smooth as 
glass.
-Andy   

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:22:10 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> I'm on a roll here with another question!!
>
> On my Atlantis with about 5 to 6 lb load up front I have noticed the front 
> end shimmy with no hands (I realize that Riv say's or thinks I'm a knuckle 
> head for this practice) which is for only a brief time period, even with 
> one hand I can feel the and see the shimmy which is pretty violent above 
> 19-20 MPH so much so that lister Mike S. commented on it. Mike and Riv 
> claim that others have experienced the same and switched to the Tange 
> needle bearing headset resolving the issue.
>
> My question, has anyone out there experienced this phenomenon? And if so 
> did you switch to the Tange needle bearing headset and did it resolve the 
> shimmy or at the least reduce it. What Riv say's about more friction at the 
> lower race where all the force is received makes sense? I'd just like some 
> real world application confirmation. 'nough said.
>
> Thanks in advance for you experiences and feedback.
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Front end shimmy.

[Richard]

A needle bearing headset seems to help with shimmy but isn't a cure all. I 
experienced a violent shimmy even with this headset. I was riding downhill and 
hit a patch of sand on the asphalt. It was a OMG, I sure I'm gonna wreck, 
experience. 

I was lucky and rode out the shimmy. Afterwards I stopped to compose myself and 
to check the bike out.I was sure something was seriously wrong, but couldn't 
find anything. While it was happening I thought for sure a tire had blown out, 
but my tire pressure seemed fine. I tightened the headset a little, counted my 
blessings, and rode home.

The bike I was riding has standard diameter, thin-walled tubing and is 
optimized for carrying a load up front. My Acorn Boxy Rando bag was carrying 
about 6lb.

I haven't experienced front end shimmy since. Hope I never do.


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[RBW] Re: Front end shimmy.

[RonaTD]

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 7:07:21 PM UTC-6, dougP wrote:
>
> Hugh:
>
> I've had shimmies with my 58cm Atlantis.  Oddly enough, and contrary to 
> accepted wisdom, mine was induced by a moderate rear load.
>

+1. That has been my experience, too, on Heron Road bikes (700C as spec'd 
and 650B converted), Quickbeam, and Bleriot Protovelo. I recently mounted a 
Tubus Targa low rider rack on my Protovelo and did my usual commute with 
front panniers instead of my typical Lowsaddle Longflap / Boxy Bag 
handlebar combo (most the weight in the saddle bag). The handling was 
remarkably improved. The very shallow head angle of the Bleriot creates a 
large amount of wheel flop. Low mounted panniers had an amazing dampening 
effect.

It's hard for me to wrap my head around the notion that 10-20 extra pounds 
on the saddle could induce shimmy. If it was just that, then someone 10-20 
pounds heavier than I am should create the same effect. So, I hypothesize 
it has something to do with the saddlebag load not being firmly attached. 
Physicists feel free to pile on.

Ted Durant
 

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Re: [RBW] WTB first used Riv or Riv frame

[Matthew G]

Thanks David! Can you send me some photos?

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[RBW] Minor Handlebar Obsession

[Jay Norman]

After eagerly awaiting the possible arrival of the Clem Smith, a beautiful, 
lightly used, lugged '93 XO2 frame materialized before my eyes on a popular 
online auction site. So I put our resident on-line bidder expert to work on 
the job (wife) and before it knew it, the frame was in our living room! 
Great job honey!  Anyway I've been gathering parts slowly, dirt drop stem, 
Albastache bars, new synergy/vintage xt wheels, brooks B17,  etc and it's 
almost ready for the buildup, but I've been back and forth on the H bars. 
 Original mustache then Albastache, then back again trying by costing up 
and down the street crankless etc.  After not being totally sold on either 
at this point I'm now thinking Albatross.  Only thing is I'm not ready to 
give up my road levers on the bends as i road original mustache for many 
years but want elevate my position. So I'm wondering if anyone knows if / 
how the mountings of road break levers can be modified to fit onto an 
Albatross bar and / or if the bend of the Albatross is even large enough to 
make them workable?  I was thinking if the mounting ring on the levers are 
too large for the bars, i can shim them and make them work. if the 
mountings are too small?? Anyway there is my obsession...has anyone tried 
or explored this or am i over the bars on this?  Would welcome any 
thoughts.  Thanks! 

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[RBW] Drilling head tube lug for internal wiring?

[William!]

I'm interested in running internal dynamo wiring, front to back, on my 
Atlantis. There's already a good size hole in the BB shell, so I'm thinking 
all I need to do is drill a hole in the downtube in the head tube lug. 
Wiring would go up fork (the outside, held with twine or something), into 
the new hole, down the downtube, out the BB shell and through a hole in the 
rear fender, all the way around the fender inside it to a fender-mounted 
light at the rear of the bike. That's the thinking, anyway.

Yes, I'm really thinking bout putting a hole in my beloved Atlantis. Anyone 
done this and care to advise? Or perhaps you have a better idea?

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[RBW] Drilling head tube lug for internal wiring?

[lungimsam]

Call RBW. They would know if it is safe or not.
You also may be voiding your frame's "un-warranty". So talk to RBW.

Idea:  ask if it is ok to drill and braze on a tail light hole mount in the 
seat tube. You could run a wire there and use the Compass Cycles tail light 
they make for just that purpose.

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Re: [RBW] Re: My stolen Rambouillet

[lungimsam]

If you see a Ram for sure, I would recommend having the police go with you to 
the house, and have your proof of purchase receipt in hand, or some other proof 
of ownership, or the "owner" might  contest ownership.

Just go with the cops. Don't go knockin on the door or jumpin fences to steal 
it back. I'm sure you know this already but just thought I'd put it out there 
in case you didn't.

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[RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat

[William!]

Did go ahead with this project? Curious to see what a stripped/blasted 
frame looks like. My Atlantis will need a repaint someday soon…

On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 at 11:41:57 AM UTC-7, Bruce Baker wrote:
>
> Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear 
> powder coat??  Would there be any downside to this??
> I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be 
> interesting have a Sam like that.  Any thoughts or comments??
> Bruce
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Thinking of going with a raw clear powdercoat

[Eric Norris]

Downside would be that powdercoating doesn't protect against rust, unless you 
apply a paint primer first. 
Does Powder Coating prevent rust?

Powder Coating is durable and very long-lasting depending on its environment 
and how the items are used.  It is not, however, a rust prevention.  
Pre-treatment and/or primer coating is required for longer coating life.  All 
exterior items should be primered and coated to fight corrosion. 
http://www.commpowder.com/pages/faq%20page/faq_page.htm/

Your frame may rust under the clear powdercoat.

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> On Feb 8, 2015, at 9:30 AM, William!  wrote:
> 
> Did go ahead with this project? Curious to see what a stripped/blasted frame 
> looks like. My Atlantis will need a repaint someday soon…
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 21, 2012 at 11:41:57 AM UTC-7, Bruce Baker wrote:
>> Has anyone taken their Sam Hillborne, stripped it and gone with a clear 
>> powder coat??  Would there be any downside to this??
>> I really like the looks of the protovelos I've seen and think it would be 
>> interesting have a Sam like that.  Any thoughts or comments??
>> Bruce
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Re: [RBW] Re: Front end shimmy.

[Patrick Moore]

I don't have an Atlantis, but I've experienced shimmy on 2 of my Riv
customs (not on a 3d), both times starting to appear after years/miles of
riding them without a sign of the problem.

I have no idea what caused it, but among things that I did change " the
problem appeared were tires: from Turbos to Kojaks on the '03; from Paellas
to Turbos on the '94.

Other things that changed: Saddle ('94; Pro to Flite); fenders ('94, none
to some, Berthoud); drivetrain (both; free to fixed); dyne hubs ('94: none
to SON 28 to none; '03: non to SON 20R); and so on and so on.

Point being that, IME, any of a myriad of apparently little and apparently
very tenuously related things can cause it. I don't have shimmy on the
gofast.

It's not a huge problem for me, since I rarely ride no-hands.

What *I* want to know is how to stop cold weather squealing on salmon pads
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On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 8:59 AM, Andy.M  wrote:

> Doug and I have talked about shimmy a bit involving our respective Atlanti
> (mine is a 56cm with 26" wheels) and it seemed that in both our experience
> that a high rear load equates to a shimmy.  To me, when loaded, the
> Atlantis rides the most stable with a low front load. For overnighters I
> usually keep the big saddle bag on the rear rack (which is there
> permanently and I deal with the slight shimmy if I make a big market trip)
> and front paniers.  With more low weight in the front the ride is smooth as
> glass.
> -Andy
>
> On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:22:10 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>>
>> I'm on a roll here with another question!!
>>
>> On my Atlantis with about 5 to 6 lb load up front I have noticed the
>> front end shimmy with no hands (I realize that Riv say's or thinks I'm a
>> knuckle head for this practice) which is for only a brief time period, even
>> with one hand I can feel the and see the shimmy which is pretty violent
>> above 19-20 MPH so much so that lister Mike S. commented on it. Mike and
>> Riv claim that others have experienced the same and switched to the Tange
>> needle bearing headset resolving the issue.
>>
>> My question, has anyone out there experienced this phenomenon? And if so
>> did you switch to the Tange needle bearing headset and did it resolve the
>> shimmy or at the least reduce it. What Riv say's about more friction at the
>> lower race where all the force is received makes sense? I'd just like some
>> real world application confirmation. 'nough said.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for you experiences and feedback.
>>
>> ~Hugh
>>   Los Angeles, CA
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Re: [RBW] Re: My stolen Rambouillet

[Mark Wilkins]

Yes, it's definitely my plan to bring the police along.  I had filed a
report with the police in my town, and have also notified the police
in the town where the bike may have been spotted.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 12:28 PM, lungimsam  wrote:
> If you see a Ram for sure, I would recommend having the police go with you to 
> the house, and have your proof of purchase receipt in hand, or some other 
> proof of ownership, or the "owner" might  contest ownership.
>
> Just go with the cops. Don't go knockin on the door or jumpin fences to steal 
> it back. I'm sure you know this already but just thought I'd put it out there 
> in case you didn't.
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[RBW] Re: Drilling head tube lug for internal wiring?

[Will]

You might want to go here:

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/wiring|sort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/5SHrMMET5_M/nYrL5VYSK38J

And read Anton's posts, look at his pictures. He's got this knocked.

Will

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>
> I'm interested in running internal dynamo wiring, front to back, on my 
> Atlantis. There's already a good size hole in the BB shell, so I'm thinking 
> all I need to do is drill a hole in the downtube in the head tube lug. 
> Wiring would go up fork (the outside, held with twine or something), into 
> the new hole, down the downtube, out the BB shell and through a hole in the 
> rear fender, all the way around the fender inside it to a fender-mounted 
> light at the rear of the bike. That's the thinking, anyway.
>
> Yes, I'm really thinking bout putting a hole in my beloved Atlantis. 
> Anyone done this and care to advise? Or perhaps you have a better idea?
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[RBW] Shimano Shifters Serviceable ?

[jandrews_nyc]

Hi
I have some 8 speed Shimano Bar-End Shifters that have seen some pretty 
rough usage.
They are currently mounted on Paul Thumbies.
I'd like to re-use them on my fresh S.H. build with Albas however, the rear 
shifter isn't cooperating.
I can't really get the unit to switch over into index mode...it's sort of 
stuck between that and friction.
As you can see from the photo, the plastic cover is cracked and gives way 
when the wing nut is twisted.
Is there a way to completely break these down and rebuild them ..or are 
they designed to not be serviceable?
Does anyone know if that plastic cover is replaceable?  I can't find any 
info about it online.  Would love to not spend $80 or $90 on shifters.


Thanks
Jason

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[RBW] Re: FS Thread Part 2

[Zack]

Ibex OD Heather Long Sleeve, Green, XL, barely worn *$60.*
Ibex Blue Polo, XL, worn a few times *$35.*

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 6:26:58 PM UTC-8, Zack wrote:
>
> Ibex OD Heather Long Sleeve, Green, XL, barely worn *$65.*
> Ibex Blue Polo, XL, worn a few times *$40.*
>
> On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:58:47 AM UTC-8, Zack wrote:
>>
>> Marmot Dri Clime Windshirt, Black, XL, worn a few times $35.  (Note: This 
>> jacket is so great as a cold weather cycling jacket)
>> Ibex OD Heather Long Sleeve, Green, XL, barely worn $75.
>> Ibex Blue Polo, XL, worn a few times $45.
>> Brooks D Shaped tool bag, Honey, used maybe twice, great condition $50.  
>>
>> add $5 shipping for first item, shipping free for each additional item.
>>
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[RBW] Singletrack on the Fargo: el Pueblo de Corrales, nr ABQ, NM. No photos, sorry.

[Patrick Moore]

Nice, short (always!) ride in the Corrales (NM; bucolic incorporation
adjacent to ABQ with faux horse ranches and old adobes and singlewides
strung out along the bosque) -- in the Corrales, NM bosque singletrack. I'd
not ridden this for 8 years or so, and it was great fun.

70*F -- global warming, 'cuz that's very high for this time of year; the
cottonwoods don't drop all their leaves -- the leaves turn brown but stay
on the trees -- so the woods was less stark in appearance.

I rode behind my brother Peter, who is a more agressive handler than I, and
who also was on a 26-er, more nimble; I on the Fargo.

Tight, curling, brush-beset trails in the cottonwood forest; the sand,
thankfully, mostly packed due to our recent precipitation. Perfectly flat,
as the trail parallels the Big River, but tightly turning.

Lotsa horse shit. And horses -- some riders nice, one rider in particular a
b*tc*. We stopped and invited her to proceed; she went by muttering
epithets, and we replied in kind.

Peter, brother, not paying attention, came around a corner at speed and
bumped front wheels with another rider -- P slammed on his front brake and
did a very worthy save; his rear wheel flinging itself into the air some 3
feet. No one, nor no bike, hurt.

Sorry, no photos -- was too busy keeping up with P. But -- and here's my
point -- I was very very pleased with the balance and feel of the Fargo.
I've complained about it: on pavement, at least with fat, soft tires, the
turn-in is less than ideal: hesitation, then dive. It's not horrible, but
it is noticeable, especially when you are used to the seamless turn-in that
is a Rivendell signature.

But, despite my poor handling skills, I was very pleased to find that the
Fargo tracked corners very, very well and felt perfectly balanced -- much
more so than on pavement. I found myself braking in turns so as not to
overrun Peter.

I bumped pedals twice; the Fargo has a lower bb. But that apart, wonderful.

Duh! After all, the Fargo is meant to be a dirt road bike; but nonetheless
I was pleasantly surprised.

Fargo: set up with 44 cm B 135s ~2-3 cm above saddle; 38/24 X
13-14-15-16-17-18-20-23-27 and a LX fd and a road Microshift rd pulled by
Silver shifters.

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[RBW] Shimano Shifters Serviceable ?

[Bill Lindsay]

They are not designed to be serviceable

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Re: [RBW] Shimano Shifters Serviceable ?

[Jim Bronson]

Replace with SunRace M96 8 speed thumbie?

http://www.amazon.com/SunRace-R800-Speed-Thumb-Shifter/dp/B0089CHD9C

It's Microshift with an SR logo on it...I have two bikes running Microshift
bar ends now with satisfactory results.  I have seen the M96's cheaper than
this but just went with Amazon because it was the first thing that popped
up on a Google search.

On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:50 PM, jandrews_nyc 
wrote:

> Hi
> I have some 8 speed Shimano Bar-End Shifters that have seen some pretty
> rough usage.
> They are currently mounted on Paul Thumbies.
> I'd like to re-use them on my fresh S.H. build with Albas however, the
> rear shifter isn't cooperating.
> I can't really get the unit to switch over into index mode...it's sort of
> stuck between that and friction.
> As you can see from the photo, the plastic cover is cracked and gives way
> when the wing nut is twisted.
> Is there a way to completely break these down and rebuild them ..or are
> they designed to not be serviceable?
> Does anyone know if that plastic cover is replaceable?  I can't find any
> info about it online.  Would love to not spend $80 or $90 on shifters.
>
>
> 
> Thanks
> Jason
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[RBW] Shimano Shifters Serviceable ?

[Bill Lindsay]

What exactly do you want to run on your albatross cockpit?  Do you want to run 
8 speed index with the shifters mounted as barcons?  Or do you want to run them 
as thumbies?  Or would friction be OK?  Let me know because I could probably 
set you up with extras in my parts box.

Bill Lindsay 
El Cerrito ca

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[RBW] Re: Winter Welcome Wagon [Share Your Pics]

[Montclair BobbyB]

"Bad weather" only means bad gear...


On Monday, December 1, 2014 at 9:13:47 PM UTC-5, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> Share some pic's of your bikes kitted out for winter!  
>
> 
>
> Here is my XO-3 (26" wheeled) as ready as I can make her. 
> 
>
> '93 XO-3, 59cm
> Single Speed via WI ENO Hub
> Nokian M&G 26x1.95" Studded Tires
> Alba cockpit w/ Paul levers
> Lot's of orphaned parts from around the garage
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>  
>
>
> 
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Lars AndersEn archery on the Blug

[Aaron Young]

I was really impressed when I saw the Lars video. However, I just saw this
one that is worth checking out if you have 15 min.  In short, another
skilled archer "myth busts" Lars' claims, and does a really good job of it.

It never hurts to maintain a healthy amount of skepticism.

Aaron "wet blanket" Young
The Dalles, OR





On Saturday, February 7, 2015, William R.  wrote:

> Bike, Book, Bow & Hatchet? I've watched that video a few times. Amazing.
> And Lars is certainly take a "Rivish" approach to archery.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Drilling head tube lug for internal wiring?

[Joe Broach]

See Jan Heine's posts in the pre-Google archives for instructions on
drilling the frame:

http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=internet-bob.10712.0128.eml
http://search.bikelist.org/getmsg.asp?Filename=internet-bob.11002.0674.eml

I'd gotten up the nerve to do this, but local builder Tony Pereira talked
me out of it. Now, it's possible that was because of the person asking the
question...

If you drill it, report back!

Best,
joe broach
pdx or



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> You might want to go here:
>
>
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/rbw-owners-bunch/wiring|sort:date/rbw-owners-bunch/5SHrMMET5_M/nYrL5VYSK38J
>
> And read Anton's posts, look at his pictures. He's got this knocked.
>
> Will
>
>
> On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 10:58:58 AM UTC-6, William! wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in running internal dynamo wiring, front to back, on my
>> Atlantis. There's already a good size hole in the BB shell, so I'm thinking
>> all I need to do is drill a hole in the downtube in the head tube lug.
>> Wiring would go up fork (the outside, held with twine or something), into
>> the new hole, down the downtube, out the BB shell and through a hole in the
>> rear fender, all the way around the fender inside it to a fender-mounted
>> light at the rear of the bike. That's the thinking, anyway.
>>
>> Yes, I'm really thinking bout putting a hole in my beloved Atlantis.
>> Anyone done this and care to advise? Or perhaps you have a better idea?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Shimano Shifters Serviceable ?

[jandrews_nyc]

Well, I had planned to run these 8-speed shifters on the Paul 
thumbies...which lets me switch between index and fiction.
I'm usually in friction.
But since they aren't working, I've mounted some cheapie Falcon shifters 
that I bought from Riv years ago.  Haven't run the cables yet, but they 
actually feel pretty good.
Still, I'd prefer to not just chuck the Shimano's in the trash...but it 
looks like that may be the end result.

Thanks!



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>
> What exactly do you want to run on your albatross cockpit?  Do you want to 
> run 8 speed index with the shifters mounted as barcons?  Or do you want to 
> run them as thumbies?  Or would friction be OK?  Let me know because I 
> could probably set you up with extras in my parts box. 
>
> Bill Lindsay 
> El Cerrito ca

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RE: [RBW] Tubeless Rims for Oregon Outback

[Noah Deuce]

Two points:
1. Definitely use Orange Seal. I've had much better results for initial setup 
with it than Stans; also, doesn't create boogers in your tires after time 
(unlike Stans). 

2. HED Belgium C2+ is another wide, rim braking rim that works well. More 
expensive than the Pacentis, but I've had great results with, both tubed and 
tubeless. 

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[RBW] 700C Tire suggestion for mixed terrain 200K on Redwood?

[Noah Deuce]

I'm another vote for the Gravel Grinder 700x38s. I've got a few hundred miles 
of pavement and mixed surface on mine, they're still going strong. (I'll be 
running a new pair at Dirty Kanza this year.)

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell gofast!

[hsmitham]

Yeah it's guy's like you burning past me on hills with me on my go slow '03 
Atlantis running 55mm BB's sloughing along :-p Glad you took that sweet ride 
out! 

~Hugh


On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 2:58:43 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
> 'Nother non-epic ride this afternoon in 70*F Rio Rancho (next door to ABQ), 
> NM, opn the '99 Joe gofast -- the first time I've ridden it in a long time. 
> 
> 
> I've been thinking of putting Compass 1.5s on it (it would require a wheel 
> rebuild, from 571 to 559), or perhaps having derailleur and brake bits brazed 
> on and a custom rack made to make it a derailleur equivalent of the '03 Curt 
> commuter; most of my riding is detours built around errand rides anyway. 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyway, I took it out for an hour of hills and wind in northern RR -- wind in 
> my face as I stood on the longish hills. It has 23 mm Michelin Pro Race tires 
> and a 75" gear (and a 65" bailout, but I rarely use it). What fun to ride a 
> light (17.5 lb) bike with very light (200 gram tires, 370 gram rims) on 
> hills! 
> 
> 
> And of course it fits and handles exquisitely. I think I'll keep it like it 
> is.
> 
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> circumference on the rim of which all conditions, distinctions, and 
> individualities revolve. Chuang Tzu
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[RBW] Re: Drilling head tube lug for internal wiring?

[dougP]

The Atlantis has 4 factory drilled holes on the DT for the water bottle 
bosses.  Surely the lugged HT area is pretty stout, and the wire doesn't 
have be very big.  I would assume any customer modifications like this void 
any warranty.  

As a point of reference and not to encourage you in any way, I performed 
all manner of ham fisted butchery to my Atlantis fork, included TIG 
welding, drilling, brazing & grinding things off to move them, and it 
survived just fine (the metal, not the paint).  Rivendells are not 
delicate.  YMMV.  

dougP

On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 8:58:58 AM UTC-8, William! wrote:
>
> I'm interested in running internal dynamo wiring, front to back, on my 
> Atlantis. There's already a good size hole in the BB shell, so I'm thinking 
> all I need to do is drill a hole in the downtube in the head tube lug. 
> Wiring would go up fork (the outside, held with twine or something), into 
> the new hole, down the downtube, out the BB shell and through a hole in the 
> rear fender, all the way around the fender inside it to a fender-mounted 
> light at the rear of the bike. That's the thinking, anyway.
>
> Yes, I'm really thinking bout putting a hole in my beloved Atlantis. 
> Anyone done this and care to advise? Or perhaps you have a better idea?
>

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[RBW] Re: Drilling head tube lug for internal wiring?

[Jan Heine]

Drilling a hole for a lighting wire should only void the warranty if that 
is what causes the problem. So if your frame fails, and the crack clearly 
started at the hole, you wouldn't want to make a warranty claim. But if 
your frame fails where the downtube enters the bottom bracket shell, no 
reputable company will claim that drilling a hole in the headlug somehow 
caused that failure... (And Rivendell is a reputable company.)

It's interesting when I show around people who've never been inside a frame 
shop. They are shocked at what they see – all the frame parts are 
discolored from soaking off the flux. After brazing the frames get aligned 
by yanking on them with brute force. To the untrained eye, it all looks 
very rough. Yet the frames are stronger than what you could make in an 
aseptically clean factory... So drilling a tiny hole in the headlug (away 
from any stressed areas, of course) isn't a big deal.

Speaking of not aseptically clean factories, during a recent visit to 
Panaracer, we got to meet quite a few of the engineers. It was very 
encouraging to see that many had rubber stains on their shirts, indicating 
that they actually made prototype tires and were involved in the making of 
things! Same thing at Nitto... If you only get to meet the guys in suits 
with clean hands, it always a bad sign!

Jan Heine
Editor
Bicycle Quarterly
www.bikequarterly.com

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On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 7:47:11 PM UTC-8, dougP wrote:
>
> The Atlantis has 4 factory drilled holes on the DT for the water bottle 
> bosses.  Surely the lugged HT area is pretty stout, and the wire doesn't 
> have be very big.  I would assume any customer modifications like this void 
> any warranty.  
>
> As a point of reference and not to encourage you in any way, I performed 
> all manner of ham fisted butchery to my Atlantis fork, included TIG 
> welding, drilling, brazing & grinding things off to move them, and it 
> survived just fine (the metal, not the paint).  Rivendells are not 
> delicate.  YMMV.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Sunday, February 8, 2015 at 8:58:58 AM UTC-8, William! wrote:
>>
>> I'm interested in running internal dynamo wiring, front to back, on my 
>> Atlantis. There's already a good size hole in the BB shell, so I'm thinking 
>> all I need to do is drill a hole in the downtube in the head tube lug. 
>> Wiring would go up fork (the outside, held with twine or something), into 
>> the new hole, down the downtube, out the BB shell and through a hole in the 
>> rear fender, all the way around the fender inside it to a fender-mounted 
>> light at the rear of the bike. That's the thinking, anyway.
>>
>> Yes, I'm really thinking bout putting a hole in my beloved Atlantis. 
>> Anyone done this and care to advise? Or perhaps you have a better idea?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Brake pads question.

[Surlyprof]

Last time I was at Rivendell, I bought the Yokozunas they sell in both 
smooth and threaded (I needed threaded).  Their spacers and cupped washers 
were really easy to set up and adjust.  When I was there, I noticed all the 
brake pads were toed in to the front to keep them from squealing which is 
the opposite from what I had always done in the past.  Keven suggested that 
I take a piece of sandpaper, fold it in half, place it in the back and 
compress the brakes to get the angle.  I combined that tip with Grant's 
bike geek tip on the Blug about using a section of inner tube as a parking 
brake.  It was just the right pressure so I could align everything with the 
brakes engaged and then crank them tight in position.  I can't speak to 
longevity of the pads but I have had no problems with squealing brakes 
since.

John

On Saturday, February 7, 2015 at 4:09:18 PM UTC-8, hsmitham wrote:
>
> Hey Rivsters,
>
> I'm currently using Paul Component 
>  Touring Canti Brakes with the 
> Koolstop  thinline salmon 
> pads on my Atlantis.
>
> The rear were never properly toed in or aligned with the rim surface so 
> they wore funny and now squeal. 
>
> Here's my question, can you run the Eagle 2 
> pads with these Canti's. 
> Paul components doesn't say anything other than they come with the thin 
> line.
>
> It's my notion that the shorter the pad length the easier to toe in the 
> pads to the rim surface thus eliminating the squeal.
>
> Thanks in advace for reading this and your subsequent suggestions and 
> feedback.
>
> ~Hugh
>   Los Angeles, CA
>

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