Re: [RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem

[cyclotourist]

That's an awesome overlay!

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Zed Martinez 
wrote:

>
> The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way
>> upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it
>> wont be quick doing those things.
>> Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar
>>
>>
> I haven't touched either in person, so, I can't say with confidence. But,
> I keep calculating out the geometries on these too, and I think the only
> thing that really makes the Clem seem more laid back and cruiserish is just
> that it's how they keep building them. The frame angles are pretty much
> identical. The head tube might be just a bit more slack, but it's hard to
> tell since the margin for error when calculating these things from
> measurements is outside the .5 degree range that matters. The biggest
> difference is that the Clem has a 1-2cm longer top tube and the longer
> chainstays. Those don't have to mean cruiser/town. Heck, it looks like the
> reach from the sit point of the saddle to the stem on the 52cm demo bike
> built as a townie is exactly the same as on my current camping bike
> converted from an old road frame with a standard touring stance, despite
> the old bike I'm using having a much, much shorter top tube. So, I think
> just looking at the geometries on the frame it ought to be plenty flexible
> for uses outside just being a cruiser/townie style. Probably still a little
> more laid back about it, but with a short reach stem and saddle forwards I
> don't think it'll be that much different. Mostly it just seems like a
> longer, cheaper Hunq. Heck, that's how I've started thinking about it as I
> compare the geometries. The poor man's Hunq.
>
> I did the best I could to compare the Hunq and Clems at similar sizes. If
> both of them are running the same size cranks (and since they have the same
> pedals and /those/ sized to match correctly, I feel they are), this should
> be a mostly accurate comparison of the two geometries at roughly comparable
> sizes. It's closer than you'd think seeing them built up as differently as
> they are.
>
> http://zedmartinez.com/samples/clem-hunq.jpg
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[RBW] Re: Bike shop mechanics answer this:

[Cyclofiend Jim]

It's been a few years, but we never touched 'em until the bike was sold. 
Most were supplied with an appropriate set of spacers so you didn't have 
to. IIRC, if there was  more than an inch or so left to spacer-ize, that 
was rare.   They were generally supplied with a specific tube length from 
the manufacturer.  They weren't supplied "full" length as you would find 
with a fork only. 

- Jim / cyclofiend.com


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[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem

[Zed Martinez]

> The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way 
> upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it 
> wont be quick doing those things. 
> Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar 
>
>
I haven't touched either in person, so, I can't say with confidence. But, I 
keep calculating out the geometries on these too, and I think the only 
thing that really makes the Clem seem more laid back and cruiserish is just 
that it's how they keep building them. The frame angles are pretty much 
identical. The head tube might be just a bit more slack, but it's hard to 
tell since the margin for error when calculating these things from 
measurements is outside the .5 degree range that matters. The biggest 
difference is that the Clem has a 1-2cm longer top tube and the longer 
chainstays. Those don't have to mean cruiser/town. Heck, it looks like the 
reach from the sit point of the saddle to the stem on the 52cm demo bike 
built as a townie is exactly the same as on my current camping bike 
converted from an old road frame with a standard touring stance, despite 
the old bike I'm using having a much, much shorter top tube. So, I think 
just looking at the geometries on the frame it ought to be plenty flexible 
for uses outside just being a cruiser/townie style. Probably still a little 
more laid back about it, but with a short reach stem and saddle forwards I 
don't think it'll be that much different. Mostly it just seems like a 
longer, cheaper Hunq. Heck, that's how I've started thinking about it as I 
compare the geometries. The poor man's Hunq. 

I did the best I could to compare the Hunq and Clems at similar sizes. If 
both of them are running the same size cranks (and since they have the same 
pedals and /those/ sized to match correctly, I feel they are), this should 
be a mostly accurate comparison of the two geometries at roughly comparable 
sizes. It's closer than you'd think seeing them built up as differently as 
they are.

http://zedmartinez.com/samples/clem-hunq.jpg

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[RBW] Re: Hunq vs Clem

[ian m]

The Hunqapillar is an off-road tourer meets mountain bike. To me the Clem 
seems like the perfect budget/production version of the same concept. Long 
chainstays/wheelbases have been popular on off road bikes since their 
inception and are good for stability on descents and, depending on who you 
ask, just fine for climbing. In my opinion the Hunq is the early Breezer or 
Ritchey to the Clem's early Stumpjumper. I for one fully plan on riding my 
Clem with bullmoose bars and rock & road tires and not as an upright townie 

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:52:49 AM UTC-7, DSat wrote:
>
> Anyone can compare the two that has had experience with one or both?  
> What's different?  What's the same?  Ride the same?  Ride different?  One 
> heavier vs one lighter?  One more upright than the other?  I know the Clem 
> is designed for swept back bars such as the Alba's or Bosco.  I know the 
> Hunq would be 700 tires vs 650 for the Clem.  I know the Clem has longer 
> chainstays.  What would be the reason to spend the extra $$$ for the Hunq 
> over the Clem?
> I am talking the Hunq 54 vs the Clem 52 (though that probably don't matter)
>  
> Any input appreciated.
>

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[RBW] Re: I test rode the Clem

[Braxton Colagross]

Because the seat lug is the same on all sizes? Seat stay angle can't change 
so the stays curve. Maybe throw in a little "Grant likes to do 
strange/interesting things every now and then." 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:26:00 PM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> I noticed the chainstays have a slight bend to them. Did you happen to ask 
> Grant why that was?
>
>
> On Friday, March 20, 2015 at 3:21:27 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I rolled by RBW HQ this morning and got to test ride a 52cm Clem.  I've 
>> always felt lucky that I'm pretty much exactly Grant-sized.  Turns out 
>> today I got to ride Grant's Clem prototype, and didn't even have to change 
>> saddle height.  It's terrific.  It rides how I expected it to ride, meaning 
>> it disappeared, made me smile, and made me reluctant to return it to them.  
>>
>> I don't know if I will pre-order, but if I do, the $150 they are paying 
>> me to adopt early will go towards a set of Bosco Bullmooses.  That's the 
>> bar for that bike.  
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Thin Tires on a Hunqapillar

[Kevin Lindsey]

I read a piece on the Internet a couple of days ago in which the author 
swapped the 50-something tires on his Hunq for 38s or 40s.  He wasn't into 
single-tracking and was trying to make the bike into a better (read faster) 
commuter.  Has anyone in the Group tried the thin tire route on a Hunq and, 
if so, what were your impressions?
All the best,
Kevin

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[RBW] Re: New bicycle brand from Merry Sales = New Albion

[Jim A]

It is indeed 1" threadless. Slightly strange choice. But I have built up a 
couple of the frames and like them. 

On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 1:25:21 PM UTC-7, Eddie Flayer wrote:
>
> it says 1 inch headset, so must be 1 inch threadless steerer. If in doubt, 
> send them an email.
>
> On Friday, February 14, 2014 at 7:40:06 PM UTC-8, eflayer wrote:
>>
>> http://newalbioncycles.com/
>>  
>> Makes me wonder if, or the degree to which, Grant Peterson may be 
>> associated with these bikes. Not sure how they are differentiated from 
>> Soma, but some nice stuff coming.
>>
>

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[RBW] Wtb paul motolite v brakes or similar

[Michael Gasparino]

Hey friends,
Just curious if anyone has a set of paul motolites that aren't being used or 
something similar in the linear department. Not a big fan of canti's really. 
Plus I just like the looks of v brakes. Let me know
Mike

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[RBW] FS: Nitto, Brooks, Mavic, Mafac, Sugino, MKS & more!

[Ant Ritchey]

Spring cleaning!

Nitto Noodle 48 wide, very good condition  $45
Mafac Racers, front & rear, complete w/ mafac-branded front & rear cable 
hangers.  Good condition.  $40
Shimano 105 road brake levers, silver w/ black hoods.  Good condition.  $10
Shimano cassette, 8 speed, 12-23.  Very good condition $10
Brooks B17 Imperial, black, hardly ridden, excellent condition $80
Tektro TRP silver drilled alloy brake levers, very good condition  $80
1 Jack Brown Blue, worn but with life left $15
Tektro Interruptors, silver, excellent condition  $20
Mavic Open Pro Wheelset, laced to Shimano Ultegra 6600, 32 f & r, 126 rear 
spacing, very good condition $125/set
Rivendell's Silver Hupe, the one and only $25
Sugino XD2 Crankset, double 175mm, no rings, very good condition $30
Nitto 65 Crystal Fellow 27.2 x 210mm, lower 95mm scuffed, otherwise very 
good condition $40
Nitto Technomic 5, 26.0 clamp, some scuffs but good condition $30
MKS Sylvan track pedals, very good condition, $15
Sturmey Archer 5 spd wheel w/ indexed thumb shifter, X-RF5 (W) hub, 36 hole 
laced to Araya AR-713 rim, black, Newbaum's tape, 18 tooth cog $150 (happy 
to break this wheel down to save on shipping if you're strictly interested 
in the hub, cog & shifter)

Trade interested icluding but not limited to aluminum heat treated 
Albatross, King Iris cages, Park Truing stand 2 or 2.2, Nitto Tallux 6, 7 
or 8, Schmidt Edulux II & SON hub, HA Rack Sackville Bags, Carradice Bagman 
support, 700c Compass tires, Sugino XD2 165 or 170 triple or wide low 
double.

Prices do not include shipping.  Open to reasonable offers.  Paypal 
preferred.  Pics upon request, via email or text (72fore 7fiiive7 935ate & 
lemme know you're a RBW/BOB).  Apologies for the redundancy in cross-posts 
to the sister lists. A lot of this stuff is posted to PDX OR Craigslist.  
Feel free to come check the stuff out in person- I'm in Northeast Portland, 
Oregon.

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Re: [RBW] Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 4:28:00 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:

> ...The worst stuff we came up with was a mix of peroxide, salt and 
> vinegar
>

Chlorides under acidic condition is very corrosive. Enough to corrode even 
316L stainless steel in fact.

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[RBW] Bike shop mechanics answer this:

[lungimsam]

How do you determine where to cut the steerer tubes on your threadless floor 
model road bikes when assembling?

Is there a standard human bar height that works for everyone shops go by? Do 
you cut them higher for LHTruckers and other touring models?

My local shops cut low but sometimes they do some a little higher than usual. 
Was wondering. With RBW bikes, we have slot of options with quill stems.

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[RBW] Re: Velo Orange "Yard" Sale 3/28

[lungimsam]

I have to work. Too bad or I think I would go. Looking for a Nitto m18 rack and 
an Imperial Flyer saddle at deep discounts.
I am sure there would be other cool stuff to be had, too.

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[RBW] WTB Sackville Stickpack

[Kendallspower]

Need one for a photoshoot with Landrover end of April early March.

Kendall

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Re: [RBW] Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[dougP]

Bill:

"For some reason I was able to make myself pay for it for a school project, 
but can't pull the trigger for riding.  "

You've got your priorities straight.  An admirable school project, focusing 
on a single problem (corrosion).  Bike drivetrains have a lot more going on 
that can also cause wear, i.e.,  lubrication, cleanliness, riding 
environment, etc.  A highly corrosion resistant chain may not outlast a 
less resistant one if for instance lubrication & cleanliness control life.  
I've never even thought about corrosion but I don't live where they salt 
the roads.  Heck, it doesn't even rain enough around here.

"Peroxide, salt & vinegar".  That sounds pretty nasty without thinking 
about the chemical reactions.  That's must have been a fun project for 
her.  

dougP

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 4:28:00 PM UTC-7, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> My daughter did her 5th grade science project on rust proofed bike chains. 
>  We bought her a bunch of new chains (including a Wipperman) and cut them 
> into lengths for her to do all kinds of mean things to them.  The coated 
> 4NRTH brand did pretty well.  The Wipperman was also excellent.  The worst 
> stuff we came up with was a mix of peroxide, salt and vinegar.  I've still 
> never ridden with a Wipperman.  For some reason I was able to make myself 
> pay for it for a school project, but can't pull the trigger for riding.  
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 2:34:21 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
>>
>> My reading of the site indicates the coating is for rust protection, not 
>> anti-friction.
>>
>> It's only $10 more than a regular KMC chain, I'll try one out when I run 
>> out of my current supply.
>> On Mar 27, 2015 11:20 AM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:
>>
>>> I haven’t used on of these, but I’m generally suspicious of 
>>> anti-friction coatings on chains and chainrings. Campagnolo started adding 
>>> a coating to their chainrings a few years ago, and it was widely reported 
>>> to wear off quickly.
>>>
>>> I properly lubricated chain should be able to resist corrosion well 
>>> enough. They all wear out at about the same rate, in my experience.
>>>
>>> --Eric N
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> www.CampyOnly.com
>>> Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>>> @Campyonlyguy
>>>
>>>  
>>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone tried one of these?
>>>
>>> http://kmcchain.us/chain/x9ept-eco-proteq/
>>>
>>> Claims to withstand 650 hours of salt spray.  Which, is about what my 
>>> chains have to deal with because I sweat on the chain and front derailer 
>>> quite a lot, living in Austin, Texas, in the summertime.  Some might say 
>>> the surface rust is harmless but I don't care for the rusty chain aesthetic.
>>>
>>> This particular more than the standard 9 speed XMC X9.93 or SRAM 951 
>>> chains that I normally use, but not exorbitantly so.  Found online starting 
>>> at $23 through a Google Shopping search.
>>>
>>> There is also the Wippermann stainless, but those things are pretty 
>>> dear, even online.  This seems more reasonable.  That is, if it works.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Surlyprof]

So sorry to hear of your accident, David.  What a horrible experience.  
Glad to hear you have such strong support and that you are focusing so 
strongly on the positives.  Wishing you quick and complete healing.

John

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 11:26:53 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

> I was riding to work early on last Friday morning. My usual route. Nothing 
> unusual at all precipitating the event. I have no memory of the event 
> itself. What I know I have pieced together from eyewitness reports and 
> police reports.
>
> I was traveling around ten mph up a hill on a arterial road that is 
> labeled at 35mph. A Ford Winstar came up behind me moving higher than 55 
> mph. Though there was a clear lane he could have moved into, he instead 
> plowed through me as if I was not there. Eyewitnesses state he carried my 
> body on his hood and partially embedded in his windshield approximately 90 
> feet before coming to a stop and allowing my body to fall off his vehicle. 
> This was directly in front of a very busy city bus stop with eyewitnesses 
> that are used to seeing me every day pass this bus stop on my bicycle. He 
> then changed lanes to not run me directly over as he sped away. 
>
> He later reported an incident in which he said the damages to his car were 
> caused by boxes falling off a truck. Of course modern forensics and 
> on-the-ball police officers knew better and immediately arrested him.
>
>
> On Friday, Ma 27, 2015 at 7:17:51 AM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and 
>> run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I haveve been hit several 
>> times, but never H&R'd.
>>
>> Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due 
>> an incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than 
>> was typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's 
>> common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was 
>> fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the 
>> damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).
>>
>> Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where 
>> you're located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be 
>> able to forward a book or two!
>>
>> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate 
>>> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that 
>>> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier 
>>> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full 
>>> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full 
>>> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:

 David,

 I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a 
 helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?

 Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal 
 quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.

 Sincerely,

 Matt

 On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>
>  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs, 
> hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, 
> and 
> I will be home tomorrow. 
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Did you escape injury?
>>
>> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but 
>> as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own 
>> auto 
>> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
>> find 
>> the OP's insurance information.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat 
>>> stays? Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This 
>>> is 
>>> the bike I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my 
>>> life. I 
>>> am not yet ready to give up on it.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Ram as a light tourer-your experiences?

[Fullylugged]

The Mark's rack with P clamps lets you put a small bag on the front of a 
Ram. It's really not designed for a heavy bag so a bar tube is usually what 
I put there. It's long chainstays and low BB make it a comfy rider and it 
has very stable handling. A very good all day light tourer or brevet bike. 
Mine has 12k miles on it and I rode it in the hills of NW GA twice this 
week.



On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:13:35 PM UTC-5, Kieran J wrote:
>
> I think the Rambouillet is basically a textbook example of a light tourer. 
> Tire clearance with fenders is restricted and most lack mid-fork lowrider 
> eyelets; otherwise, it's pretty great.
>
> The Ram is not some superlight waif - I don't think it would take issue 
> with some baggage attached. 
>
> KJ
>
>
> On Monday, March 23, 2015 at 1:19:51 PM UTC-4, alan lavine wrote:
>>
>> Hi to All,
>>
>> As Spring approaches, and summer plans are formulated, I'm thinking how 
>> to best use my current fleet.  I have read, and firmly believe, that the 
>> Ram could be used for light touring.  I'd love to hear about your 
>> experiences with this.  What kind of terrain, your rack/pannier/bags/basket 
>> set up, tires, etc.  Pictures would be lovely, as well.  What do you think 
>> are reasonable limits in terms of weight?
>>
>> All and any wisdom is much appreciated...I feel that someone on this list 
>> has already done anything I'm even contemplating, so why reinvent the wheel?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Alan
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Fullylugged]

David:

 It is encouraging to read that both the rider and the ride are heavily 
banged up but both are fixable and share good prospects for travelling 
together again.  Best wishes on your recovery and successfully repairing 
the RBW.

Bruce

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 1:26:53 PM UTC-5, David Spranger wrote:
>
> I was riding to work early on last Friday morning... snip
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[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[John Philip]

36 all around 40 rear on the Bombadil.

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 6:09:31 PM UTC-4, Rod Holland wrote:
>
> Related question: 36h or 32h wheels? 
>
> rod

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Re: [RBW] Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Bill Lindsay]

My daughter did her 5th grade science project on rust proofed bike chains. 
 We bought her a bunch of new chains (including a Wipperman) and cut them 
into lengths for her to do all kinds of mean things to them.  The coated 
4NRTH brand did pretty well.  The Wipperman was also excellent.  The worst 
stuff we came up with was a mix of peroxide, salt and vinegar.  I've still 
never ridden with a Wipperman.  For some reason I was able to make myself 
pay for it for a school project, but can't pull the trigger for riding.  

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 2:34:21 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote:
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> My reading of the site indicates the coating is for rust protection, not 
> anti-friction.
>
> It's only $10 more than a regular KMC chain, I'll try one out when I run 
> out of my current supply.
> On Mar 27, 2015 11:20 AM, "Eric Norris" > 
> wrote:
>
>> I haven’t used on of these, but I’m generally suspicious of anti-friction 
>> coatings on chains and chainrings. Campagnolo started adding a coating to 
>> their chainrings a few years ago, and it was widely reported to wear off 
>> quickly.
>>
>> I properly lubricated chain should be able to resist corrosion well 
>> enough. They all wear out at about the same rate, in my experience.
>>
>> --Eric N
>> campyo...@me.com 
>> www.CampyOnly.com
>> Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
>> @Campyonlyguy
>>
>>  
>> On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Jim Bronson > > wrote:
>>
>> Anyone tried one of these?
>>
>> http://kmcchain.us/chain/x9ept-eco-proteq/
>>
>> Claims to withstand 650 hours of salt spray.  Which, is about what my 
>> chains have to deal with because I sweat on the chain and front derailer 
>> quite a lot, living in Austin, Texas, in the summertime.  Some might say 
>> the surface rust is harmless but I don't care for the rusty chain aesthetic.
>>
>> This particular more than the standard 9 speed XMC X9.93 or SRAM 951 
>> chains that I normally use, but not exorbitantly so.  Found online starting 
>> at $23 through a Google Shopping search.
>>
>> There is also the Wippermann stainless, but those things are pretty dear, 
>> even online.  This seems more reasonable.  That is, if it works.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

[WETH]

Deacon Patrick,
Impressive to me is 70 miles!  You created some amazing photographs too.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Robert F. Harrison]

Now that sounds like fun. I'm mostly an in city commuter skirting broken
glass, joggers, and folks using their cellphones while driving. Thankfully
I do get out of the city every so often (and really, it isn't so bad living
Hawaii...I mean someone's got to do it, right?).

I'll be out by the dried horse print divots next the first weekend in April
when I go for my first camping trip of the year.

To keep this on track I'm deciding between a 32 and 36 spokes for the ride,
and the frame the comes with them. :-)

Aloha,

Bob



On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 4:41:14 PM UTC-6, Statrixbob wrote:
> "I tend to avoid things these days."
>
> What a fantastic and wonderful luxury to have! Between ruts, ridges,
> moles, dried horse print divets and clumps, rocks, and roots, wash board,
> pot holes, trees, cracks, etc, I tend to hit a lot, though I avoid 95% of
> what I could hit. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Deacon Patrick]

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 4:41:14 PM UTC-6, Statrixbob wrote:
"I tend to avoid things these days."

What a fantastic and wonderful luxury to have! Between ruts, ridges, moles, 
dried horse print divets and clumps, rocks, and roots, wash board, pot 
holes, trees, cracks, etc, I tend to hit a lot, though I avoid 95% of what 
I could hit. Grin.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

[Deacon Patrick]

Oh, I cheat big time with a 32/19 and a 32/22 bail out. The 32/22 will be 
the Pikes Peak gear should I go that route. It's all paved, and the 
Hunqapillar's Smart Sams are just not fun on pavement while the QB's MSO's 
are fantastic. I'm just concerned what happens with wind and altitude above 
treeline. That last 2,000 feet is the hardest part of the 7,000 foot climb. 
I need to put in more climbs and longer rides first, then I'll see. I'm not 
cocky yet. Grin.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Robert F. Harrison]

36 Hunq, 32 front and rear on QB. I haven't really had problems for a few
years. I tend to avoid things these days.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> 36 Hunqapillar, 36 rear, 32 front on the Quickbeam. It's the Hunqapillar
> I've snapped a spoke on. Likely because you can only unweight the bike so
> much when it is garrying gear.
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB - Small Sackville Trunk Sack, tan

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Many thanks to both Leslie & EGNolan for your help. I did not realize that 
was a "live" link and not an "archived" one. This forum is a great help in 
cases like this!

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 6:33:21 PM UTC-4, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> I'm looking for the now-discontinued tan version of the small Sackville 
> Trunk Sack, now available only on olive. (Similar to the old Little Loafer 
> Baggins bag.) Kindly respond off-list. Can pay PayPal or by check. Thanks.
>
> Paul Germain 
> Midlothian, Va.
>  

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[RBW] Re: Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Deacon Patrick]

36 Hunqapillar, 36 rear, 32 front on the Quickbeam. It's the Hunqapillar 
I've snapped a spoke on. Likely because you can only unweight the bike so 
much when it is garrying gear.

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, I have to hear about Pikes Peak!

It sounds like a great ride. We mere mortals can only look on and sigh.

Patrick Moore, who liked to think that he could climb well in a fixed gear
...

[And who belatedly -- actually used the 19 t on the Dingle; perhaps the
second time in 2 years -- discovered on yesterday's mere 18 mile ride how
dropping from a 70" gear to a 63" gear makes a huge difference in ease of
climbing. But it's cheating.]

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> I cheated and it was nearly all paved, but I did 70 miles on the Quickbeam
> today, to Deckers, then 6 miles North along the Platte (back to where we
> camped a few night ago). Just using basic math I averaged 11-12 mph, which
> is pretty good given the climbing involved. The section along the Platte
> river is dreamy. Just meandering along with the river realitively flat
> either way. What a blast! I haven't felt this good on that ride ever, so I
> must be doing something right. Grin. Perhaps I'll get cocky and give Pikes
> Peak another go on the QB later this year. Grin.
>
> Photos start here and go for a total of four progressing left:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16741137817/
>
> With abandon,
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RE: [RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Geir Bentzen]

36 spokes on my Hunqapillar. There never was a question about that. I have a 
history of breaking spokes on road bikes, especially at the moment I decide to 
stand up while climbing a hill.

Geir

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Related question: 36h or 32h wheels?

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[RBW] Re: Velo Orange "Yard" Sale 3/28

[islaysteve]

i wont be there this year, but I can attest that there will be good deals 
to be had.  Ironically, I saw my first Riv at a VO yard sale, an orange 
Sam, and it fueled my lust to acquire a Riv.  Anyway, in additition to this 
sale, Velo Classique in Purcelville, VA is having a sale all weekend.  This 
is a shop that  may  appeal to some on this list, and I look forward to 
visiting.  Cheers,
Steve

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 2:47:26 PM UTC-4, Minh wrote:
>
> Details here, 
> http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2015/03/yard-sale-preview.html
>
> For those in the DC area, from my experience the heavily discounted stuff 
> goes right away (i.e. you need to be in line when they open).  They also 
> sometimes sell non-VO items, the last one i went to there was a full set of 
> Nitto touring racks (i guess these are things they use to prototype their 
> own products).  Of course each one is hit and miss on items, though they 
> are also giving 15% off on in-person, in-stock purchases too if you need to 
> pick up something.
>
> I've missed the last few ones, but they have some pictures up, and at a 
> minimum it's a nice excuse to get out to Annapolis.  A little too early to 
> visit Cantler's for crabs but you have a few options downtown.  
>
> Let us know if you pick up something good!  Not as amazing as an RBW 
> garage sale, but no plane flight to California either!
>

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[RBW] Clydesdale's -- Which Riv Model are you riding?

[Rod Holland]

Related question: 36h or 32h wheels?

rod

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Re: [RBW] Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Jim Bronson]

My reading of the site indicates the coating is for rust protection, not
anti-friction.

It's only $10 more than a regular KMC chain, I'll try one out when I run
out of my current supply.
On Mar 27, 2015 11:20 AM, "Eric Norris"  wrote:

> I haven’t used on of these, but I’m generally suspicious of anti-friction
> coatings on chains and chainrings. Campagnolo started adding a coating to
> their chainrings a few years ago, and it was widely reported to wear off
> quickly.
>
> I properly lubricated chain should be able to resist corrosion well
> enough. They all wear out at about the same rate, in my experience.
>
> --Eric N
> campyonly...@me.com
> www.CampyOnly.com
> Campyonlyguy.blogspot.com
> @Campyonlyguy
>
>
> On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
>
> Anyone tried one of these?
>
> http://kmcchain.us/chain/x9ept-eco-proteq/
>
> Claims to withstand 650 hours of salt spray.  Which, is about what my
> chains have to deal with because I sweat on the chain and front derailer
> quite a lot, living in Austin, Texas, in the summertime.  Some might say
> the surface rust is harmless but I don't care for the rusty chain aesthetic.
>
> This particular more than the standard 9 speed XMC X9.93 or SRAM 951
> chains that I normally use, but not exorbitantly so.  Found online starting
> at $23 through a Google Shopping search.
>
> There is also the Wippermann stainless, but those things are pretty dear,
> even online.  This seems more reasonable.  That is, if it works.
>
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[RBW] Re: Tips for Quick beam for long, mountain rides

[Deacon Patrick]

I cheated and it was nearly all paved, but I did 70 miles on the Quickbeam 
today, to Deckers, then 6 miles North along the Platte (back to where we 
camped a few night ago). Just using basic math I averaged 11-12 mph, which 
is pretty good given the climbing involved. The section along the Platte 
river is dreamy. Just meandering along with the river realitively flat 
either way. What a blast! I haven't felt this good on that ride ever, so I 
must be doing something right. Grin. Perhaps I'll get cocky and give Pikes 
Peak another go on the QB later this year. Grin.

Photos start here and go for a total of four progressing 
left: https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16741137817/

With abandon,
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Re: [RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Jim Bronson]

I have seen the Tiagara 4600 new for $24 on eBikestop.

Unfortunately, they are closing their shop so I doubt they can be obtained
any longer.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 1:48 PM, EGNolan  wrote:

> If you're willing to go Ultegra/105, I'd say buy a new 8/9/10 Tiagra. 90+%
> as good as the 105/Ultegra, but can be had for $35...
>
>
> Best,
> Eric
> Indpls,
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Re: [RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[EGNolan]

If you're willing to go Ultegra/105, I'd say buy a new 8/9/10 Tiagra. 90+% 
as good as the 105/Ultegra, but can be had for $35...
 
 
Best,
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Indpls,

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[RBW] Velo Orange "Yard" Sale 3/28

[Minh]

Details here, http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2015/03/yard-sale-preview.html

For those in the DC area, from my experience the heavily discounted stuff 
goes right away (i.e. you need to be in line when they open).  They also 
sometimes sell non-VO items, the last one i went to there was a full set of 
Nitto touring racks (i guess these are things they use to prototype their 
own products).  Of course each one is hit and miss on items, though they 
are also giving 15% off on in-person, in-stock purchases too if you need to 
pick up something.

I've missed the last few ones, but they have some pictures up, and at a 
minimum it's a nice excuse to get out to Annapolis.  A little too early to 
visit Cantler's for crabs but you have a few options downtown.  

Let us know if you pick up something good!  Not as amazing as an RBW garage 
sale, but no plane flight to California either!

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Small Sackville Trunk Sack, tan

[EGNolan]

Paul,
His link allows purchase of these bags if you don't find one used. They 
only have 3 left, though, better hurry.
 
Best,
Eric 
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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Mark Reimer]

ARE YOU SERIOUS???!!! That kind of crap makes me SO angry



> On Mar 27, 2015, at 1:26 PM, David Spranger  wrote:
> 
> I was riding to work early on last Friday morning. My usual route. Nothing 
> unusual at all precipitating the event. I have no memory of the event itself. 
> What I know I have pieced together from eyewitness reports and police reports.
> 
> I was traveling around ten mph up a hill on a arterial road that is labeled 
> at 35mph. A Ford Winstar came up behind me moving higher than 55 mph. Though 
> there was a clear lane he could have moved into, he instead plowed through me 
> as if I was not there. Eyewitnesses state he carried my body on his hood and 
> partially embedded in his windshield approximately 90 feet before coming to a 
> stop and allowing my body to fall off his vehicle. This was directly in front 
> of a very busy city bus stop with eyewitnesses that are used to seeing me 
> every day pass this bus stop on my bicycle. He then changed lanes to not run 
> me directly over as he sped away. 
> 
> He later reported an incident in which he said the damages to his car were 
> caused by boxes falling off a truck. Of course modern forensics and 
> on-the-ball police officers knew better and immediately arrested him.
> 
> 
>> On Friday, Ma 27, 2015 at 7:17:51 AM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote:
>> I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and 
>> run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I haveve been hit several 
>> times, but never H&R'd.
>> 
>> Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due an 
>> incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than was 
>> typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's 
>> common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was 
>> fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the 
>> damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).
>> 
>> Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where you're 
>> located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be able to 
>> forward a book or two!
>> 
>>> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate 
>>> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that 
>>> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier 
>>> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full 
>>> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full 
>>> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>>> 
 On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
 David,
 
 I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a helmet?  
   Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
 
 Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal 
 quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
 
 Sincerely,
 
 Matt
 
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs, 
> hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, 
> and I will be home tomorrow. 
> 
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>> Did you escape injury?
>> 
>> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but as 
>> a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto 
>> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
>> find the OP's insurance information.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger  
>>> wrote:
>>> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays? 
>>> Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the 
>>> bike I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. I 
>>> am not yet ready to give up on it.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>>> 
>>> David
>>> 
>>> Charlotte, NC
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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Andrew Marchant-Shapiro]

That's truly horrible; both your experience in being hit and the bad 
actor's behavior after the collision.  I expect that (assuming the driver 
was insured) there should be no problems in your being fully compensated to 
the limit of his policy--but I do not know the company or the locale, so 
don't take my word for it.  Document absolutely everything insofar as you 
can.  Every cut, scrape, and bruise.  The hospital records are important, 
but so is whatever you can produce.  And (like a zillion people haven't 
already told you this!) take your time getting back to work and riding.  

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 2:26:53 PM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>
> I was riding to work early on last Friday morning. My usual route. Nothing 
> unusual at all precipitating the event. I have no memory of the event 
> itself. What I know I have pieced together from eyewitness reports and 
> police reports.
>
> I was traveling around ten mph up a hill on a arterial road that is 
> labeled at 35mph. A Ford Winstar came up behind me moving higher than 55 
> mph. Though there was a clear lane he could have moved into, he instead 
> plowed through me as if I was not there. Eyewitnesses state he carried my 
> body on his hood and partially embedded in his windshield approximately 90 
> feet before coming to a stop and allowing my body to fall off his vehicle. 
> This was directly in front of a very busy city bus stop with eyewitnesses 
> that are used to seeing me every day pass this bus stop on my bicycle. He 
> then changed lanes to not run me directly over as he sped away. 
>
> He later reported an incident in which he said the damages to his car were 
> caused by boxes falling off a truck. Of course modern forensics and 
> on-the-ball police officers knew better and immediately arrested him.
>
>
> On Friday, Ma 27, 2015 at 7:17:51 AM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote:
>>
>> I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and 
>> run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I haveve been hit several 
>> times, but never H&R'd.
>>
>> Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due 
>> an incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than 
>> was typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's 
>> common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was 
>> fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the 
>> damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).
>>
>> Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where 
>> you're located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be 
>> able to forward a book or two!
>>
>> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>>
>>> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate 
>>> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that 
>>> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier 
>>> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full 
>>> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full 
>>> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:

 David,

 I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a 
 helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?

 Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal 
 quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.

 Sincerely,

 Matt

 On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>
>  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs, 
> hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, 
> and 
> I will be home tomorrow. 
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Did you escape injury?
>>
>> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but 
>> as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own 
>> auto 
>> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
>> find 
>> the OP's insurance information.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat 
>>> stays? Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This 
>>> is 
>>> the bike I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my 
>>> life. I 
>>> am not yet ready to give up on it.
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB - Small Sackville Trunk Sack, tan

['Bikie#4646' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's it Leslie. Though I called it "Trunk" bag, I do mean the small front 
bag - in tan, of course. I assume this is not available from Riv. any 
longer. Do you have one to sell?

Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 10:59:27 AM UTC-4, Leslie wrote:
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 6:33:21 PM UTC-4, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>>
>> I'm looking for the now-discontinued tan version of the small Sackville 
>> Trunk Sack, now available only on olive. (Similar to the old Little Loafer 
>> Baggins bag.) Kindly respond off-list. Can pay PayPal or by check. Thanks.
>>
>> Paul Germain 
>> Midlothian, Va.
>>
>
>
> This? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bastss-tan.htm  
>

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[RBW] I think I'm underutilizing my Bosco bars...

[Aaron Young]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQBbHzypBro

Riv content: a golden bicycle, of course.

Aaron Young
The Dalles, OR

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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[David Spranger]

I was riding to work early on last Friday morning. My usual route. Nothing 
unusual at all precipitating the event. I have no memory of the event 
itself. What I know I have pieced together from eyewitness reports and 
police reports.

I was traveling around ten mph up a hill on a arterial road that is labeled 
at 35mph. A Ford Winstar came up behind me moving higher than 55 mph. 
Though there was a clear lane he could have moved into, he instead plowed 
through me as if I was not there. Eyewitnesses state he carried my body on 
his hood and partially embedded in his windshield approximately 90 feet 
before coming to a stop and allowing my body to fall off his vehicle. This 
was directly in front of a very busy city bus stop with eyewitnesses that 
are used to seeing me every day pass this bus stop on my bicycle. He then 
changed lanes to not run me directly over as he sped away. 

He later reported an incident in which he said the damages to his car were 
caused by boxes falling off a truck. Of course modern forensics and 
on-the-ball police officers knew better and immediately arrested him.


On Friday, Ma 27, 2015 at 7:17:51 AM UTC-4, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro wrote:
>
> I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and 
> run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I haveve been hit several 
> times, but never H&R'd.
>
> Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due 
> an incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than 
> was typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's 
> common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was 
> fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the 
> damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).
>
> Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where you're 
> located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be able to 
> forward a book or two!
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>
>> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate 
>> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that 
>> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier 
>> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full 
>> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full 
>> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a 
>>> helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
>>>
>>> Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal 
>>> quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs, 
 hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, 
 and 
 I will be home tomorrow. 

 On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Did you escape injury?
>
> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but 
> as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto 
> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
> find 
> the OP's insurance information.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger  
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat 
>> stays? Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is 
>> the bike I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. 
>> I 
>> am not yet ready to give up on it.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>>
>> David
>>
>> Charlotte, NC
>>
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[RBW] WTT: Atlantis 61 CM for Rambouillet 60 or 58 CM

[Dave C]

I am have a 2003/2004-era Toyo-built Atlantis with a fairly standard build 
(Sugino XD triple crank, Shimano barcons, 46 cm Noodle, Mavic 719 
wheelset). I can't tour anytime soon, I really just need a road bike with 
some decent tire clearance. So I am interested in swapping with someone's 
Rambouillet (or Roadeo, I suppose). The bike is in great shape, with 
scratches on the right chainstay from a couple chain-suck incidents and a 
few scratches on the top tube. No dents, no problems. I can furnish 
pictures.

If you yearn to tour, or you want a bike with wider tire clearances, and 
you are up for considering a trade, let me know. I can get far more 
specific about components and other matters in a private conversation.

Dave Carroll
Wrightwood, CA

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[RBW] Re: The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Pondero]

David, thank you for your positive outlook in such a crummy circumstance. 
 You have encouraged me by your 
"get-the-bike-fixed-and-hurry-up-and-get-back-on-the-horse" attitude.  I 
pray you heal quickly, and carry those positive things that have  come your 
way with you for a long, long time.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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Re: [RBW] Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Eric Norris]

I haven’t used on of these, but I’m generally suspicious of anti-friction 
coatings on chains and chainrings. Campagnolo started adding a coating to their 
chainrings a few years ago, and it was widely reported to wear off quickly.

I properly lubricated chain should be able to resist corrosion well enough. 
They all wear out at about the same rate, in my experience.

--Eric N
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> On Mar 27, 2015, at 7:29 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:
> 
> Anyone tried one of these?
> 
> http://kmcchain.us/chain/x9ept-eco-proteq/ 
> 
> 
> Claims to withstand 650 hours of salt spray.  Which, is about what my chains 
> have to deal with because I sweat on the chain and front derailer quite a 
> lot, living in Austin, Texas, in the summertime.  Some might say the surface 
> rust is harmless but I don't care for the rusty chain aesthetic.
> 
> This particular more than the standard 9 speed XMC X9.93 or SRAM 951 chains 
> that I normally use, but not exorbitantly so.  Found online starting at $23 
> through a Google Shopping search.
> 
> There is also the Wippermann stainless, but those things are pretty dear, 
> even online.  This seems more reasonable.  That is, if it works.
> 
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[RBW] Re: My Winter Projects

[Montclair BobbyB]

Thanks Clayton and Soren... yeah the large ones are indeed hard to find. 
 Varusteleka has some nice medium-sized surplus bags, which should make for 
nicely-sized overnighters, or possibly front panniers.  These remind me of 
the Carradice C bags.

BB



On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 10:02:03 AM UTC-4, Clayton wrote:
>
> Bobby, 
> I found the bags in a Army Surplus store here in Oregon. They no longer 
> carry them unfortunately.
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:17:17 AM UTC-7, Soren Hansen wrote:
>>
>> BobbyB, thank you for the kind words,
>> I bought my "BW mountain troops rucksack" in used condition from a Store 
>> in Finland (Varusteleka.com), a miltary surplus store.
>> That makes me the happy second owner, next after Heinz,Jürgen, Udo and 
>> Karl, who at some point probably carried these rucksacks on their backs, (I 
>> personally prefer to carry them on the bike..), no doubt these bags can 
>> take a beating !  Once again thanks to Clayton for his very informative 
>> instruction to convert these !
>> I believe that Clayton back in the day found some in new condition from 
>> Cabelas ? 
>> the front shifter on the downtube... ;
>> I spend most of my time in the middle ring (36t) of my triple crank with 
>> an 8 speed 11-32t on the back.
>> it gives a little more space for my handlebar bag (an old Swedish Gasmask 
>> bag dated 1942)
>> I had an almost empty bottle of Whisky (Balvenie 21 year old Portwood 
>> with the most beautiful wooden cork I thought would look nice on the 
>> barend)..it does !
>> The only thing is, I still can not afford a Rivendell.
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:38:59 PM UTC+1, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>>
>>> Soren:  Nice build, cool panniers, nice mod... Where did you find the 
>>> bags to make the panniers?
>>>
>>> I saw the Camargue up close at the Philly Bike Expo... just a 
>>> solid-looking workhorse-of-a-bike... very impressed.
>>> Curious why you left the front shifter on the down-tube?
>>>
>>> Great job, BB
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:01:19 PM UTC-4, Soren Hansen wrote:

  and here is a picture of a couple of my bags mounted on my current 
 touring bike; Velo Orange Camargue 62 cm.
 best regards
 Soren in Denmark

 On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:06:26 AM UTC+1, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 7:47:53 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote:
>>
>> Here is the link to the Shultzi bags. I am still using them on a 
>> almost on a weekly basis for really heavy loads, groceries, which 
>> sometimes 
>> hit 80 lbs. I mounted the newest Arkel top rail mounting system 
>> recently, 
>> and use the Orlieb lower hook. The best of both systems.
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Clayton (Bend)
>>
>>
>> https://veloapocalypse.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/dumpsterlovepanniers.pdf
>>
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[RBW] Re: Spring Break Microtour

[WETH]

Hugh, thanks.  And, I would love to tour in your part of the country.  
Anne, you summed it up well,
Chris, thanks and enjoy your S24O.  I will be looking for the usually array of 
excellent photos.
Edwin, we found that adding the kids friends make the trips more enjoyable for 
them and reduces some sibling friction as well.  The bandannas were to cut the 
wind on their face and transitioned to gangster/bandit fun.  It certainly added 
to their enjoyment.

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Re: [RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Tim Gavin]

No, thank you.  They're attractive hubs but their noise bothers me like few
things do.  Seriously, I'm a very chill person but I find noisy hubs very
irritating.

Also for trade:
Phil Wood freewheel / Synergy wheel set, or just the hubs (new bearings all
around).  Rear wheel has a small dent in the sidewall (as mentioned) that
I'm going to try to carefully straighten.  Handbuilt by me with DT
revolution spokes.  OC rear rim + Phil FW hub = less than 1 mm of dish.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> OK, I laughed at that Angry Bee hub comment.  So I get you don't want to
> buy my used 36H shiny silver Chris King?
>
>  ;);)
>
> (seriously, I do have one like that I'm not using).
>

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Re: [RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Jim Bronson]

OK, I laughed at that Angry Bee hub comment.  So I get you don't want to
buy my used 36H shiny silver Chris King?

 ;);)

(seriously, I do have one like that I'm not using).


On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 10:23 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a rear hub.  Let me know what spares you have, or if you
> know of a great deal.
>
> 130 mm OLD
> 8/9/10 speed cassette freehub
> 36 hole
> Silver body
> Quiet pawls (no loud "angry bee" hubs)
>
> I'd like something high quality; I'm currently riding the Phil freewheel
> hub original to my '97 Riv and it's butter-smooth (with new bearings).
>
> I will build it up with a new Pacenti PL23 rim.  I keep denting Synergy OC
> rims (2 since September, the cheapo ZAC19 I had before was dent free).
>
> I see my new options as:
> White Industries T11 or MI5 ~$325
> Paul RHUB ~$325 (noisy?)
> Phil Wood ~$410
> Velo Orange Grand Cru Touring ~$110
> Ultegra 6700 ~$100
> 105 5500 ~$55
>
> Any other good options?  What do I gain (besides MUSA) by going with the
> Paul or White Industries vs. the Ultegra or Grand Cru?  Are any of the ones
> I listed noisy, and I don't know it yet?  Also, anyone know a great price
> for spokes?  Best I see is ~$.80 per (in quantities of 50 or 100).
>
> Items I offer in trade:
> Nitto Big Front rack (excellent condition)
> Sackville Trunksack Large Olive (good condition)
> Revelate Tangle frame bag, Large (brand new)
> Nitto Moustache bars, Dirt Drop 8 stem, and Dia-compe non-aero brake levers
> Campagnolo Athena 9-speed (old) Ergo brake/shifters -- good hoods, work
> great, come with free Race Triple RD if wanted (free b/c it has a crack in
> the mount knuckle). These index shift 9 speed Campy or 7 speed whatever
> (set up on a freewheel currently).  Works fine with a triple, Race Triple
> FD also available.
>
> Thanks!
> Tim Gavin
> Cedar Rapids, IA
>
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[RBW] Re: Cheviot Flikr Group

[KC]

Great idea.  I've added a couple of my pictures to the group.  Still loving 
it.  Still hovering waiting for a new granddaughter, moved on a bit and had 
a great ride to dinner last night in one of our favorite towns.

On Tuesday, March 24, 2015 at 5:17:27 PM UTC-7, Kellie wrote:
>
> I added a group for Rivendell Cheviot owners to add photos of their bikes. 
> I invite all to contribute.
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[RBW] Re: The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Bob E]

Sorry to hear this, and wish you a quick and full recovery! Don't worry 
about the bike (at least not now).

Bob E

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[RBW] WTB (or trade for): rear hub

[Tim Gavin]

I'm looking for a rear hub.  Let me know what spares you have, or if you
know of a great deal.

130 mm OLD
8/9/10 speed cassette freehub
36 hole
Silver body
Quiet pawls (no loud "angry bee" hubs)

I'd like something high quality; I'm currently riding the Phil freewheel
hub original to my '97 Riv and it's butter-smooth (with new bearings).

I will build it up with a new Pacenti PL23 rim.  I keep denting Synergy OC
rims (2 since September, the cheapo ZAC19 I had before was dent free).

I see my new options as:
White Industries T11 or MI5 ~$325
Paul RHUB ~$325 (noisy?)
Phil Wood ~$410
Velo Orange Grand Cru Touring ~$110
Ultegra 6700 ~$100
105 5500 ~$55

Any other good options?  What do I gain (besides MUSA) by going with the
Paul or White Industries vs. the Ultegra or Grand Cru?  Are any of the ones
I listed noisy, and I don't know it yet?  Also, anyone know a great price
for spokes?  Best I see is ~$.80 per (in quantities of 50 or 100).

Items I offer in trade:
Nitto Big Front rack (excellent condition)
Sackville Trunksack Large Olive (good condition)
Revelate Tangle frame bag, Large (brand new)
Nitto Moustache bars, Dirt Drop 8 stem, and Dia-compe non-aero brake levers
Campagnolo Athena 9-speed (old) Ergo brake/shifters -- good hoods, work
great, come with free Race Triple RD if wanted (free b/c it has a crack in
the mount knuckle). These index shift 9 speed Campy or 7 speed whatever
(set up on a freewheel currently).  Works fine with a triple, Race Triple
FD also available.

Thanks!
Tim Gavin
Cedar Rapids, IA

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[RBW] Re: WTB - Small Sackville Trunk Sack, tan

[Leslie]

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 6:33:21 PM UTC-4, Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> I'm looking for the now-discontinued tan version of the small Sackville 
> Trunk Sack, now available only on olive. (Similar to the old Little Loafer 
> Baggins bag.) Kindly respond off-list. Can pay PayPal or by check. Thanks.
>
> Paul Germain 
> Midlothian, Va.
>


This? http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/bastss-tan.htm  

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[RBW] Re: LF: 67cm STT Hilsen

[Kieran J]

Hi All,

Still interested in getting my hands on a 67 STT Hilsen. I know these are 
not super common, but I'll keep trying.

I know I can order a new one. It will be my commuter so a $$ sparkling 
brand new one is not ideal given the context.

KJ


On Monday, October 6, 2014 at 11:25:41 AM UTC-4, Kieran J wrote:
>
> Like the title says, looking for a 67cm AHH for upright fat tire service. 
> I might also be interested in a 64cm Hillborne.
>
> Prefer frameset but completes also fine. Cosmetics not overly important.
>
> If anyone out there is looking to find a new home for theirs, please let 
> me know! Thanks.
>
> Kieran
>
>

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[RBW] Reasonably priced rust-resistant chain?

[Jim Bronson]

Anyone tried one of these?

http://kmcchain.us/chain/x9ept-eco-proteq/

Claims to withstand 650 hours of salt spray.  Which, is about what my
chains have to deal with because I sweat on the chain and front derailer
quite a lot, living in Austin, Texas, in the summertime.  Some might say
the surface rust is harmless but I don't care for the rusty chain aesthetic.

This particular more than the standard 9 speed XMC X9.93 or SRAM 951 chains
that I normally use, but not exorbitantly so.  Found online starting at $23
through a Google Shopping search.

There is also the Wippermann stainless, but those things are pretty dear,
even online.  This seems more reasonable.  That is, if it works.

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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Jim Bronson]

I got H&R'd in the CAR and I followed the person to their place of
residence.  When I called 911 the police asked if anyone was injured and I
said NO, they then proceeded to tell me that all units in my sector were
deployed on higher priority calls.

No accountability for traffic safety in this country AT ALL.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:17 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro <
marchantshap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and
> run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I have been hit several times,
> but never H&R'd.
>
> Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due
> an incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than
> was typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's
> common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was
> fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the
> damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).
>
> Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where you're
> located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be able to
> forward a book or two!
>
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>
>> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate
>> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that
>> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier
>> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full
>> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full
>> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a
>>> helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
>>>
>>> Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal
>>> quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs,
 hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, and
 I will be home tomorrow.

 On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Did you escape injury?
>
> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but
> as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto
> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
> find
> the OP's insurance information.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger 
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat
>> stays? Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is
>> the bike I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. 
>> I
>> am not yet ready to give up on it.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>>
>> David
>>
>> Charlotte, NC
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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Jim Bronson]

The important thing is that you survived, there's always time for debate
later.

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:14 AM, David Spranger 
wrote:

> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate
> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that
> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier
> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full
> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full
> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a
>> helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
>>
>> Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal
>> quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>>>
>>>  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs,
>>> hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, and
>>> I will be home tomorrow.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Did you escape injury?

 Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but
 as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto
 insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't find
 the OP's insurance information.

 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger 
 wrote:

> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
> Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the bike
> I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. I am not
> yet ready to give up on it.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>
> David
>
> Charlotte, NC
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[RBW] Re: My Winter Projects

['Clayton' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bobby, 
I found the bags in a Army Surplus store here in Oregon. They no longer 
carry them unfortunately.

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:17:17 AM UTC-7, Soren Hansen wrote:
>
> BobbyB, thank you for the kind words,
> I bought my "BW mountain troops rucksack" in used condition from a Store 
> in Finland (Varusteleka.com), a miltary surplus store.
> That makes me the happy second owner, next after Heinz,Jürgen, Udo and 
> Karl, who at some point probably carried these rucksacks on their backs, (I 
> personally prefer to carry them on the bike..), no doubt these bags can 
> take a beating !  Once again thanks to Clayton for his very informative 
> instruction to convert these !
> I believe that Clayton back in the day found some in new condition from 
> Cabelas ? 
> the front shifter on the downtube... ;
> I spend most of my time in the middle ring (36t) of my triple crank with 
> an 8 speed 11-32t on the back.
> it gives a little more space for my handlebar bag (an old Swedish Gasmask 
> bag dated 1942)
> I had an almost empty bottle of Whisky (Balvenie 21 year old Portwood with 
> the most beautiful wooden cork I thought would look nice on the barend)..it 
> does !
> The only thing is, I still can not afford a Rivendell.
> Best regards
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:38:59 PM UTC+1, Montclair BobbyB wrote:
>>
>> Soren:  Nice build, cool panniers, nice mod... Where did you find the 
>> bags to make the panniers?
>>
>> I saw the Camargue up close at the Philly Bike Expo... just a 
>> solid-looking workhorse-of-a-bike... very impressed.
>> Curious why you left the front shifter on the down-tube?
>>
>> Great job, BB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 12:01:19 PM UTC-4, Soren Hansen wrote:
>>>
>>>  and here is a picture of a couple of my bags mounted on my current 
>>> touring bike; Velo Orange Camargue 62 cm.
>>> best regards
>>> Soren in Denmark
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 12, 2015 at 3:06:26 AM UTC+1, Deacon Patrick wrote:

 Thanks!

 With abandon,
 Patrick

 On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 7:47:53 PM UTC-6, Clayton wrote:
>
> Here is the link to the Shultzi bags. I am still using them on a 
> almost on a weekly basis for really heavy loads, groceries, which 
> sometimes 
> hit 80 lbs. I mounted the newest Arkel top rail mounting system recently, 
> and use the Orlieb lower hook. The best of both systems.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Clayton (Bend)
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Spring Break Microtour

[Edwin W]

That's awesome! Great inspiration to do with my boys as they get older.
As Anne said, "What a great tour! Family, togetherness, biking, ice cream, 
what could 
be better?" 
Obviously: posing for pictures with bandannas over your noses. 
Gangsters/Banditos never get old.

Edwin

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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[René Sterental]

Hope you recover quickly and are back riding again soon. Glad to see you
have the positive attitude to be planning how to also restore your bike so
it's ready when you are.

René

On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 4:17 AM, Andrew Marchant-Shapiro <
marchantshap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and
> run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I have been hit several times,
> but never H&R'd.
>
> Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due
> an incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than
> was typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's
> common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was
> fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the
> damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).
>
> Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where you're
> located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be able to
> forward a book or two!
>
>
> On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>>
>> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate
>> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that
>> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier
>> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full
>> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full
>> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a
>>> helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
>>>
>>> Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal
>>> quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>>
>>> Matt
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:

  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs,
 hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, and
 I will be home tomorrow.

 On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Did you escape injury?
>
> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but
> as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto
> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
> find
> the OP's insurance information.
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger 
> wrote:
>
>> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat
>> stays? Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is
>> the bike I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. 
>> I
>> am not yet ready to give up on it.
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>>
>> David
>>
>> Charlotte, NC
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Re: [RBW] SnoCat SL rims have been claimed.

[Patrick Moore]

But this is a "Sno" Cat; a desert species. (Great in sand.)

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 10:18 PM, Jim Bronson  wrote:

> Well you know I was thinking a snow cat might be something you see at a
> ski resort ;)
> On Mar 26, 2015 10:07 PM, "Patrick Moore"  wrote:
>
>> It's a component of vacuum tubes.
>>
>> Seriously: 3 guesses!
>>
>> "Rims" should give you a clue.
>>
>> Patrick Moore, who remembers listening to Cronkite on a wooden tabletop
>> vacuum tube radio on RKO general station in the early '60s.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Jim Bronson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> is that a bike part or something else?
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:01 PM, Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>> >
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[RBW] Re: Spring Break Microtour

[Pondero]

Fantastic!

The gift you gave to the next generation is impossible to value.  Those 
short tours are truly special for everyone.  With a little luck, I'll bag 
another S24O tonight.

Chris Johnson
Sanger, Texas

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[RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Paul]

David, adding my well wishes and prayers for a complete recovery. 

It's sounding pretty positive for that happening from what you shared.
I hope your pain during recovery is minimal.

I expect most if us think about something like this could happen to us.

Riding defensively is on my mind a lot as I am sure on all you folks minds as 
well.

Even with that mindset the inattentive, distracted or impaired driver's are out 
there and sometimes even all our precautions do not prevent something like this 
from happening. 

I also hope this person is discovered and held accountable for what they have 
done. 

God bless and enable you to heal quickly. 


Paul in Dallas

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[RBW] Re: Alternative Frame Pump Mounting.

[islaysteve]

Here is the photo of my XSmall Topeake Road Blaster on my 51 Bleriot.  Steve




On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I find myself with a couple frame pumps too short for my bikes, and am 
> wondering what other folks have done to mount pumps in different ways than 
> pump peg locations. Photos would be very helpful.
> Thanks,
> David
> Chicago
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[RBW] Re: Alternative Frame Pump Mounting.

[Andrew Marchant-Shapiro]

I had always carried frame pumps either under the top tube or along the 
front of the seat tube, but my most recent build involved DT shifters and a 
shortish head tube, so under the TT seemed inadvisable.  But I wanted to 
keep the second bottle cage (I hardly ever use it, but on events, it's 
worth having).  Fortunately, there was *just* enough room between the rear 
fender and the seat tube to an hPX.  Initially, I cobbled together an 
umbrella clip to hold the end of the handle and put the pump head down on 
the chainstays just aft of the BB.  Last year, I picked up an old campy 
"arrow" type clip, that is more secure for the top.  And I'm considering 
putting some kind of padding down on the stays, though I expect anything 
down there will get filthy, and I should just use a rubber bag of some sort 
to cover the pump head.

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 9:56:00 PM UTC-4, David Banzer wrote:
>
> I find myself with a couple frame pumps too short for my bikes, and am 
> wondering what other folks have done to mount pumps in different ways than 
> pump peg locations. Photos would be very helpful.
> Thanks,
> David
> Chicago
>

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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Andrew Marchant-Shapiro]

I'm glad you're mostly intact.  If you recall the details of the hit and 
run, I would be interested in hearing them.  I have been hit several times, 
but never H&R'd.

Take it easy with the recovery.  I had a hip replaced a few years ago due 
an incident, and it took me significantly longer to get full recovery than 
was typical for scheduled hip replacement surgery.  I don't know if that's 
common, due to the trauma, or what, but it was my experience (I was 
fortunate in that it was a relatively low-speed event, and the rest of the 
damage was confined to my ankle and elbow.).

Please, do well and read lots of amusing things.  Let us know where you're 
located and where your tastes in literature lie--I (for one) may be able to 
forward a book or two!

On Friday, March 27, 2015 at 5:14:56 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
>
> I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate 
> here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that 
> required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier 
> this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full 
> speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full 
> recovery from all of them. It will just take time.
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a 
>> helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
>>
>> Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal 
>> quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> Matt
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>>>
>>>  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs, 
>>> hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, and 
>>> I will be home tomorrow. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:

 Did you escape injury?

 Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but 
 as a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto 
 insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't 
 find 
 the OP's insurance information.

 On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger  
 wrote:

> Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays? 
> Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the 
> bike 
> I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. I am not 
> yet ready to give up on it.
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/
>
> David
>
> Charlotte, NC
>
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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[David Spranger]

I was not wearing a helmet. I only rarely use helmets. Please, no debate 
here. I did receive head injury that resulted in brain swelling that 
required an operation to relieve the pressure. I did not know this earlier 
this week. I have been mostly out of it and am only now coming up to full 
speed, mentally, again. My injuries are serious, but I expect a full 
recovery from all of them. It will just take time.

On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:09:08 PM UTC-4, hangtownmatt wrote:
>
> David,
>
> I notice you did not list any head injuries.   Were you wearing a 
> helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
>
> Your injuries sound serious.  I wish you the best and pray you heal 
> quickly.  I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Matt
>
> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:38:02 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
>>
>>  I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs, 
>> hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, and 
>> I will be home tomorrow. 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you escape injury?
>>>
>>> Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but as 
>>> a civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto 
>>> insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't find 
>>> the OP's insurance information.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:59 AM, David Spranger  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays? 
 Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the bike 
 I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. I am not 
 yet ready to give up on it.
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/73873271@N03/16909618466/

 David

 Charlotte, NC

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Re: [RBW] The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

David, 

We are sending prayers and positive thoughts for your complete recovery.

Joe Ramey & family in western Colorado

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[RBW] Re: The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.

[Evan E.]

David! Heal well. We'll all be thinking of you.

Evan E.

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