That's an awesome overlay!

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Zed Martinez <iamzedmarti...@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> The Clem is a much more laid back, cruiserish, town bike. Upright is way
>> upright. Stays are extra long. I think it could handle anything, but it
>> wont be quick doing those things.
>> Clearances- easier on the Clem, but similar
>>
>>
> I haven't touched either in person, so, I can't say with confidence. But,
> I keep calculating out the geometries on these too, and I think the only
> thing that really makes the Clem seem more laid back and cruiserish is just
> that it's how they keep building them. The frame angles are pretty much
> identical. The head tube might be just a bit more slack, but it's hard to
> tell since the margin for error when calculating these things from
> measurements is outside the .5 degree range that matters. The biggest
> difference is that the Clem has a 1-2cm longer top tube and the longer
> chainstays. Those don't have to mean cruiser/town. Heck, it looks like the
> reach from the sit point of the saddle to the stem on the 52cm demo bike
> built as a townie is exactly the same as on my current camping bike
> converted from an old road frame with a standard touring stance, despite
> the old bike I'm using having a much, much shorter top tube. So, I think
> just looking at the geometries on the frame it ought to be plenty flexible
> for uses outside just being a cruiser/townie style. Probably still a little
> more laid back about it, but with a short reach stem and saddle forwards I
> don't think it'll be that much different. Mostly it just seems like a
> longer, cheaper Hunq. Heck, that's how I've started thinking about it as I
> compare the geometries. The poor man's Hunq.
>
> I did the best I could to compare the Hunq and Clems at similar sizes. If
> both of them are running the same size cranks (and since they have the same
> pedals and /those/ sized to match correctly, I feel they are), this should
> be a mostly accurate comparison of the two geometries at roughly comparable
> sizes. It's closer than you'd think seeing them built up as differently as
> they are.
>
> http://zedmartinez.com/samples/clem-hunq.jpg
>
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